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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largenr John Collider Podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm aerial casted and with me as always is ever
so jolly Jonathan Strickland.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I've been boiled with my own pudding all.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And visited by three ghosts.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah. I've been buried with a stake of holly through
my heart since.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Send a toothpick. I don't know there's a toothpick in
Christmas Carol. Somewhere.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
There's more about the gravy than grave about you. So
we are here. We are barreling our way to the
festive season. You know there's no escaping it. Have you
been sent to wham agaedin yet?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I haven't, mainly because I haven't been paying attention.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yea, But I technically have because I started watching a
trailer called Last Christmas not even thinking about it, and
then like just the beginning of the song started went ah,
and it hit stop and I was like, oh, it
already counts well it was long enough for me to
recognize it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So you have now evolved to godhood where you can
play wham Hunter and see how many times you can
hear it throughout the holiday season. I did not come
up with this. My brilliant bandmate did, but I thank
her for it because I actually liked the song last Christmas.
I mean, it's not like a happy song, but it's
a fun song. And yeah, yeah, I don't want to
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avoid it all holiday season.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Uh yeah, I'm I'm indifferent towards that one. But it
does bring us to our question for this week, which
is what is your favorite Christmas song? And if you
have more than one, that's fine, if you have more
than what you have one in different categories, like you're like,
here's my favorite novelty Christmas song versus you know, here's
my favorite Christmas song, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, I was gonna troll our audience and say Christmas shoes,
but that depresses me to say.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Shay Shay sang that at Christmas karaoke a couple of
last weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I love you say. I would have if I were there,
I would have had to have left the room. That
song is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It was the first one she sang. Like.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Here's the thing though, Like I get that it's a
pretty song, and like I understand the value of the
gift of the magi story, but it's just like an
extra level of depressing for no reason.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's it's also it just lay ladles on the mellow
drama so hard. It's so heavy handed and so tone death.
She sang it ironically, she was doing she was doing
like a send up version. She was doing a voice
for it and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So yeah. So uh. At one point in time, I
would have said my favorite Christmas song was Santa Baby,
but I realized as I thought about it that that
is not actually my favorite song. I just liked it
because I wrote a parody of it for the Robin
Hood scenario at GARF one year. It's hard because I
like them all rocking around the Christmas Tree is always
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a pretty good bop. And then like, but I had
a soft spot in my heart for like all of
the traditional ones that you'd sing in a church choir,
because I've sung them at a church choir and gone
like caroling around and like hitting all those beautiful harmonies just.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Really yeah, like angels we have heard on high yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh holy Night, even Folice Navidad. There was one year
I did that in a Christmas Christmas CANTEENA and I
had a whole bunch of like layering and like rounding
of like different languages, and that was really cool for
nostalgia purposes. Carol the Bells is also pretty fantastic, but
for nostalgia purposes, I would say here we come a whastling,
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But specifically the version from the California Raisins Christmas television special,
just because they gifted with it so much. And I
think watching that as a child is what gave me
a love for parody music. So that you know, it's
hard to pick a favorite Christmas child. I like anything
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that gets me in the Christmas spirit, so I tend
to go for upbeat stuff, traditional stuff, but modern stuff
doesn't hit me quite as well, like the newer Christmas songs.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind like a modern cover
necessarily depending on how they do it. One of my
favorite this isn't This is like twenty years old at
this point, maybe more, but one of my favorite covers,
and it wasn't of a traditional Christmas song, was Collective
Soul did a cover of Blue Christmas, you know, the
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song that was made famous by Elvis. But they did
a fantastic cover, so Collective Soul's Blue Christmas is a
really great fun cover because it's not it's not like
exactly like the original, has a very different kind of
approach to it, and I love that one. I did
that one at karaoke. Actually my favorite, though, is Christmas
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also known as Baby Please Come Home.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That is Tony's favorite as well.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh, it's such a good song. Ellie Greenwich, Jeff Barry,
and Phil Spector wrote it. Darlene Love in nineteen sixty
three recorded it. Her version is still my favorite. But
I also really like Joey Ramone's version, which was only
released after he had died in like two thousand and one.
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That one's great if we're going by novelty songs, that
changes depending upon the year, But I mean have a
I have a somewhat ironic love of Dominic the Donkey.
I don't think it's a good song, but holy cow,
I am so entertained whenever it comes on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That is a special one that I I didn't learn
about until I was an adult.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Same same I didn't. I had never I think it
was more popular in the Northeast than in the Southeast,
so I never heard of it until I was up
in Philadelphia one year, and then I started hearing it
occasionally played. Like you know, I think a lot of
markets have that radio station that just starts playing Christmas
music twenty four to seven once Thanksgiving is past, and
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that's where I heard it down here.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, I also love when it is not my favorite song,
but I love watching everybody try to be creative with
the Twelve Days of Christmas.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Muppets have a great version of that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
They do. I I hadn't heard, so I did listen
to a new song. It's not super new. It's from
twenty nineteen, so I guess six years old.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Jeer God.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But it came on my holiday playlist the other day
and a guest ire Sugar and Booze.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh, I haven't heard this one.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
She apparently had like an entire holiday spectacular. It feels
like one of like those like oldie pop Christmas songs,
but it's cheeky's talking about our favorite things about the
holiday or sugar and Booze, and I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So it so sounds like sounds like it was made
in the same sort of tongue in cheek approach as
that Bill Murray Christmas special from it. Several years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, or or the Guardians of the Galaxy Santa Comes
with his Laser Eyes song.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, well those are some great suggestions. I mean I
didn't even get into Ray Steven Santa Claus is Watching You,
which I also did at karaoke. Or or the two
Christmas songs from Weird Al Yankovic, both of which were
sung at karaoke.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Those are fantastic, one.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
By me and one by Lucas. So yeah, we I
would say eighty five to ninety percent of the songs
we sang were Christmas oriented. And for those of you
out there wondering why wasn't Ariel with you, Jonathan, she
was invited, she just had a prior engagement so she
couldn't go.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah. Yeah, I was in by being in music that night,
but I was watching Off Book, which is Zach Reno
and Jess McKenna. They had a podcast for a long time.
They've done a bunch of stuff on Dropout, which if
you've listened to our podcast, you know Jonathan and I
love that channel. And so they've been touring around doing
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like a full hour and a half improvised musical and
the one this year because I saw them last year
when they came through town, which is the first time
I had seen them come through town, So they may
have done it before, but I didn't know about it.
And this time they're in a bigger venue. And it
was about people being hornied during the Renaissance. And that's
why Renaissance festivals are so cheeky.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, it would definitely explain things. I think. Honestly,
the reason Renaissance festivals are so cheeky is people dress
up and they get to they get to pretend that
they're not themselves, which means their inhibitions drop quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean but it was funny, right, so.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's a funny concept. I like it. Yeah.
So there we go. There's are our favorite Christmas songs.
There's a nice selection for y'all. Let's move on to
talk about what we watched this last time we recorded.
I believe we both watched last week's Four of Us.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
We did.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yes, Yeah, the new episode I think is already out,
but we haven't. I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, So, like you know, I had been waiting till
nine pm on Fridays when it was supposed to drop.
But apparently it drops early.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So yeah, I don't know what the deal is Apple TV.
Could you like, I don't mind that you dropped things early,
but you know, there's schedules for a reason, y'all. Like
if I had known, we would have Well, actually, I
take that back. I fell asleep early last night because
I was exhausted. But I will say I'm still enjoying it.
(09:51):
I enjoyed the reveal. Even though the last episode we
watched had my least favorite character in the series so
far in it a lot, I still enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, so I think, so, there's this there's this character
who is very charismatic, and he plays the character incredibly well.
The actor is doing a phenomenal job, but he's doing
charismatic in a way that is definitely problematic. Well, he
didn't really think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I would say he's not even charismatic. It's that the
the the hive mind is all geared toward pleasing him
so that he will eventually consent to joining them, and
therefore they're playing up like he's charismatic. What he is
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is a slime bucket.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And sorry if that's a bit
of a spoiler. I don't think that's too much of
a spoiler.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, I mean, like we I'm not going to get
into any more particulars because I just like you're meant
to not like him, Like that's the way the and
the actor is doing a great job. It's not like
I don't like him because of the performance. I don't. Well,
it is true, I don't like him because of the performance.
That's because the performance is doing what it's supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah. Yeah, So here's the thing, Like I do have
a friend that's like, if you think about it too harder,
you try to unravel the story too hard. If you're
like looking at it as a puzzle box story, then
you might get a little frustrated because some of the
things like just don't make sense. But if you're just
enjoying the ride, I'm quite enjoying it. I do know
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that I read an article with Its Gilligan where the
creator who said that he's got like a two or
three year arc planned and he knows how he wants
it to end, but he is open if someone has
a better idea. So I know a bunch of people
were worried that it was going to be like Lost,
where each week they were just throwing darts at.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
A yeah, or one of those one of those cases.
And I think we've talked about this before, where showrunners
or filmmakers decide to go in a drastically different direction,
not because that's what the story demands, but because they
feel that the fan base has already caught on to
where they were going and they don't want to be predictable.
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And they do. They go unpredictable, but at the cost
of the cohesion of the world and the story. And
I would listen. I love Shakespeare. We all know how
shakespeare plays end. People in Shakespeare's time knew how those
plays would end. They knew that going into it, and
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they still enjoyed it. So knowing the destination isn't a problem.
Don't make it one unless you're just like someone like
m Night Shyamalan, where your entire persona is based off
the concept of a twist, in which case you've got
other issues.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I do feel like the story has picked up, and
I don't want to necessarily go into why, but I
do feel like the plot is moving along quicker now,
yeah than at the beginning. A similar feeling about Lost,
except for Implorabis it was two episodes that I quite
enjoyed before things started picking up. For Me and Lost,
it was ten episodes until the others appeared, which is
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not necessarily congruent. It's just a much shorter time for
the plot to pick up in Plurabis.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, I never, I never got pulled into I tried
with Lost and it lost me.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So yeah, Well, the first ten episodes are them surviving
on an island, and it's when the weird stuff starts
happening that it gets really interesting. But I see that
that is not all you watched this week. You watch
something else that I thought for sure you had given
up on.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh, Welcome to Dary. Yeah, oh no, I've given up
on it. It's just that I had not seen the
penultimate episode the last time we recorded, and now I have,
and I've given up. I'm not even gonna bother watching
for finale. Like there's literally only one episode left and
I have no desire to watch it because I had
said at the beginning, like I think one of the
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plots is really dumb, and if it it's dumber, I'm out.
It got dumber. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It is not good that it got dumber, but good that,
like you realize that, like you recognize your boundaries and
are like, I've got better things to spend my time on.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
What's funny is I went online because I wanted to
be validated, and so I was looking to see if
other people had the same reaction I did. Like the
reviewer for the av Club felt very much the same
way I did. But on Reddit there was such an
incredible surge of people saying this is the best episode yet,
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most powerful episode, amazing, and I'm thinking I feel like
an alien on the planet Earth, Like I just don't
understand humans at this point. But it's fine, Like people
can like stuff I don't like. That's totally cool. It
makes the world interesting. It's just I came to the
conclusion that this plot line is not for me. It
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makes it not to draw like parallels. But it reminds
me of my reaction to American Horror Story, where I
just felt they were trying to do everything and nothing
seemed to be really good to me. Like, I know
people who absolutely love that franchise, and that's awesome, but
for me, it felt like a kitchen sink approach where
nothing was really handled really well, and that there's there's
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some similarities in Welcome to Darry. It's not like they're
doing too much, but the stuff that they're doing I
feel is really dumb.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, yeah, I I haven't even tried it. I did
enjoy the new movies, but there's so many other things.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I want to watch, and that's valid. Like I started
watching this out of mostly curiosity, like can they make
a compelling show that's a prequel where you already know
where the story ends? Like you know what the ending
of that story is, and you also know like if
you don't recognize a character's name, like if that character
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that isn't directly connected with someone in the story of it,
there's a decent chance that character is not going to
make it out alive, or they're going to move away
from Dary, because otherwise, why would they not appear later on?
Which I didn't, which which eventually ends up imploding on itself.
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That's in needful things, as I recall. Yeah, I I
for the people who love it. I'm glad you love
it it, just I don't know. I had a large
problem from the get go, and the seventh episode just
pushed it beyond any any point of return for me.
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I also watched a couple more episodes of Superstore, which
you know that's been off the air for ages now.
But but I kind of fell into it. I think
I talked about it like weeks and weeks ago when
I first started watching. Then I fell off again. I
fell off of watching it. I picked it back up,
and I realized why I fell off watching it. It's
not because it's not a good show. I think it
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was a really good show. It's a very funny comedy,
but so much of the humor is based off of
like that cringe factor where people are doing something that's
just so unbelievably cringey and you're just like you're yelling
at the screen like don't do it or whatever. I
can only watch a few of those at a time
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before I hit my tolerance. They do it really well,
and I mean, like, and to be fair, that show
came out once a week when it was on, and
I'm binging, I'm doing this to myself. I fully admit that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I totally get that. There are
like back when I was trying Walking Dead, because I
did watch it for a few seasons before I gave up.
It was really when they started glorifying megan hitting a
character and beating a character to death with his bat
that I was like, oh, I'm out, but started off
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binging it because it made the story move quicker, and
then eventually I was like, I can't because it's too
it's too much.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
At one time, too grim and dour.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, but I mean that's the same thing for cringe,
Like sometimes I can only experience other people's embarrassment for
so long before I need to take a break.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, I'm glad you're still enjoying Superstore even though you
did take a little bit of a pause from it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, what about you? What have you been watching besides
Blur of Us? Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So, one thing I didn't add on here, I've started
Gilded Age on HBO. It is kind of so for me.
Dalton Abbey is kind of like the epitome of well
done more recent well done, like historical drama. Like it's
just I find it. I find it good stories, I
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find the characters fun to watch. I find it believable.
Bridgerton is the complete opposite, where it's cheesy and unbelievable.
But I mean, it's a romance story, so shouldn't hold
it into higher regard. This feels somewhere in between, like
they're definitely trying to be closer to down in Abbey
for sure, where they're trying to look, you know, historically accurate.
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But it does feel a little bit more melodrama. It isn't.
It just feels a little bit more that way. But
I'm enjoying it. The costumes are beautiful, some of the
stories are great. It's got some amazing actors in it,
so I'm enjoying that. Since I've finished up with everything
for task Master UK until except for Junior until the
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holiday episodes come out, I've started task Master New Zealand
and I'm one season two of that, which is very funny.
I have laughed very hard a couple of times. The
host and the task Master and the task Master's assistant
still in season two, feel a little bit like they're
uncmfortable just completely riffing it, so they don't have quite
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the same chemistry as Greg and Alex. Some people would
disagree with me. Even at the off book show, I
had like people around me who we were chatting about
Dropout and task Master and all that, and they're like,
oh my god, I love tast Master in New Zealand.
It is very funny. It's a different sense of humor
than the UK sense of humor. And when the taest
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Master and the assistant riff, it's great, but it feels
like they're uncomfortable just doing that all the time. So,
like the segues between tasks is a little bit clunky,
claggy or whatever, but I'm enjoying it. The task Master
was doing a US tour in January this year, sold
out in thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean that's that goes to show that their
strategy of releasing on YouTube was incredibly successful.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, and I love that one. I love that it
happened because I couldn't have made any of the January dates,
but also this they'll come back for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, But they did try to do a US version
of task Master, and I like listening to interviews, Like
they cut it down to like twenty two minutes, Like
it just didn't work because of the chemistry between Alex
and the host. And it's not that either of them
did a bad job. I actually quite enjoyed the clips
I watched of it in arrears, but like they just
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had to make so many concessions to the format that
it didn't quite work, and I think if they tried
to do it again it would do well because I
really loves it now. But also u as humor tends
to be a little bit more mean.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Kind of reminds me a little bit of when they
tried to do a pilot for an American version of
The It Crowd and like Joel McHale was in it
as the Chris O'Dowd character, and Richard Iowade came over
and was in was playing still playing Moss. But it
just doesn't work. And part of it is because I
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feel like American TV producers don't have faith in American
viewers to just go with the absurdity that was the
IT Crowd, so they would undercut jokes where something really
absurd happens, but then there's like almost like an acknowledgement
that that was an act, most specifically the boss, Like
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the boss is making the ridiculous denim requests or whatever,
but then indicates that he's not really crazy, he's just
acting crazy. I'm like, don't undercut it. That's what makes
the jokes work. But anyway, Yeah, another proof of that
would be a different Joel McHale property entirely community They
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committed to the crazy and it worked.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, and so I think also with like the Office
and Friends making it their own thing just inspired by
a UK property worked. I do think again, if task
Master was to have another go at a US version,
I would want them to keep more of the UK sensibility,
just because I appreciate that more. Yeah, but I don't
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know that they would. I also watched No Go Ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Oh. I was just gonna say, it's so funny because
I would have originally said that American comedians just don't
have the right sensibility to compete on task Master because
of a different approach to comedy, but Jason Manzukus completely
proving me wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah. It was so funny because when
they like going watching backwards every time they'd have a
Canadian on, I'm like, I thought they said they didn't
have a mayor. Oh they're Canadian. Yeah. Jason Manzukus was
the first US comedian on the show to minus saying.
I also watched the third episode of ninety nine. I
am way behind on it because I'm watching with a
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group watch, but in the third episode they finally get
to past session zero, which was really nice to see
I did think it was a better episode that moved
along more quicker because you were you were able to
care a little little bit more about what was happening.
And that's it for me. Okay, And we are running
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short on time, so let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, so we we're gonna try and keep this tight
because Ariel's got places to go. So let's move on
to thirty seconds or less. Who's first? Is it? You? Me? Okay?
Here we go. The Game awards were this week, Claire
Obscura Expedition thirty three to one Game of the Year,
Best Indie Game, Best Debut Indie Game, Best Art Direction,
Best Score, Best RPG, Best Narrative, Best Game Direction, and
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Best Performance. No other game won more than a single
award that night. Expedition thirty three was the only one
to win multiple awards. That's a big old yauza. There
are also a ton of trailers for upcoming games, but
we don't have time to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, if you like control, check out the Control to trailer.
That's all I'm gonna say. I know he said we
didn't have time.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Okay. So last week we talked about how Netflix was
acquiring Warner Brothers. Well, that may not happen unless this
news has changed today. I haven't looked today. Paramount's trying
to get back into the bidding war by offering eighteen
billion dollars more in cash. The weird thing about that
is they felt kind of snubbed. We won't get into
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all of that, but the weird thing is they would
have to convince shareholders to sell some of their shares
to reach that amount. So we will see what happens.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, it's complicated. We could do a whole episode on
another time. Okay, Now for more awards news, this time
Golden Globe nominations. Genre programming did really well this year,
with Frankenstein and Centers nominated for Best Motion Picture in
the Drama category. Bugonia got a nod for Best Musical
or Comedy. K Pop, Demon Hunters, le Eo, Demon Slayer,
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and Zutopia two are all among the nominees for Best
Animated Film, and there are tons of nominations in the
various actor categories for genre performances. So I say take
a bow geeks.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Oh yes, for sure. And one of the ultimate geeky
things that happened in recent years was Avengers Endgame. It
broke box office records, and guess what, it's coming back
to theaters in advance of the release of Avengers Doomsday,
so it'll be coming out on September twenty fifth, twenty
twenty six. I don't know how I feel about this,
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because I don't know how much I want Doomsday to
directly tie to to directly tie into Endgames.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
But listen, I mean, there's a whole bunch of movies
that happen in the middle. So well, did you ever
get the chance to see the original Star Wars film
in its original form in an original movie theater, No,
just a movie theater? Well I did because I'm old.
But soon tons of people will get their chance, because
in twenty twenty seven, Disney is going to re release
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the original nineteen seventy seven cut of the film to
theaters to celebrate its fiftieth anniversary. Han will shoot first,
there will be no CGI, and it's even possible that
the words a New Hope won't beyond the title.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh man, I have been looking for an original cut
for Tony for Christmas for years, and now I've just
shared this article with him, so I will get to
surprise him with it, But that's okay. If I could
not be more excited for something than that, it would
be for Fallout, and I am even more excited for Fallout. Now.
That was a really clunky sideway because they said they
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have recently talked about how if they could use a
practical effect in season two over cgi. They have chosen
to do that. I think that's wonderful. They're like, it's
so much better to act against something that's real. So
I look forward to watching those elevated performances.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Absolutely, we're all pro practical effects on this show. Well.
As we wait for Fallout season two to come out
on the seventeenth, the team behind the show hopes to
begin work on season three as early as next summer,
which would be a nice change of pace from shows
that take off multiple years between seasons. In other news,
it looks like we will not get a playerbus season
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two any time soon, maybe late twenty twenty seven at
the earliest. So you's hoping Fallout does buck the trend.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I hadn't heard that. Now, I'm sad. Okay, Netflix is
coming out with an animated Stepsister fairytale, The steps Distress
from Cinderella, played by Ali Wong and Stephanie Hsou who
have an unwarranted reputation and then get into some hijinks
that kind of don't help that situation, and then they
team up with Cinderella to make everything better.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Nice. We know certain characters from the original run of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer will make an appearance in the
reboot of the show, but Faith or at least the
version played by Eliza Dishku, will not be among them.
Deushku formally retired from acting in twenty seventeen to focus
on advocacy work dealing with managing trauma, and has confirmed
she has no plans to return to acting.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Someone who has not taken a break from acting, Sigourney Weaver,
is in talks to join the Amazon series Tomb Raider,
which we know has Stephanie Turner. So oh pooh, pardon
me Sophie Turner in the lead. We don't know who
she's in talks to play, but she is a great actress,
so I think she would be a good addition to
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the show.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
If you ever wanted a bird'seye view of Hawkins, Indiana,
the fictional town and stranger things, well, I got good
news for you. And update to Microsoft Flight Simulator twenty
twenty four, will allow virtual pilots the chance to control
a simulated helicopter to survey Hawkins as it was between
seasons four and five of the show, complete with malls, schools,
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and dimensional rifts.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That is freaking cool. Less cool. Disney has signed a
licensing deal with Open Ai for this, so for people
to use their characters over two hundred of them on
the Sora platform. Jonathan and I don't really like the
Sora platform or deep fakes in general. I worry that
this is going to be bad for Disney the because
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I don't know how well they can control how their
characters are used, but they're investing one billion in the platform.
Sagaft has come out and said they're closely monitoring it
to make sure that it doesn't hurt any of the things,
so that Dizzy isn't breaching any parts of the Sagafter
contract in doing so. That at least is one slight
maybe solve for it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, if I get this show edited and published the
day we record it, not good odds you might still
have time to catch a five minute plus long prologue
of Christopher Nolan's epic Imax film adaptation of the Odyssey,
which will play in front of IMAX screenings of Sinners
and One Battle after another. If you missed it, well,
a shorter version will play ahead of Avatar, Fire and
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Ash starting on the nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I'm surprised that's already coming out. Lastly, in holiday news, Fallout,
Amazon has dropped a Fallout yule log. I put on
a little yule log every year to open Christmas presents.
This one. I love the music for it, but it
starts off with the ghoule and dog meat and then
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it focuses on a hand burning in a fireplace, so
I don't think that will make me feel very cheery
on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Fair enough? All right, Well, we're going to blast through
some stuff now before we conclude our episode. So first up,
we've got a couple of things that are in our
stuff what we shouldn't talk about, but we're going to anyway,
We'll keep it real short. First up, we got a
trailer for a series called The Revenge Club. It's based
off a novel called The Othello Club. It's an English
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series and if I were to give a like one
sentence line, it would be a bunch of people and
a divorcee support group decide to work together to get
revenge on their exes.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yep, it looks kind of fun. We also got a
trailer for season two of Hijack starring Idris Elba Thank You,
I knew it until I had to say it, where
he negotiates hijacked vehicles. I think this year is a
subway or was that season one?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
No, this seri is a subway. Season one was a plane,
and he plays like a business to negotiator who just
happens to find himself wrapped up in these hostage situations.
So it's kind of like Diehard, except instead of a cop,
it's a business guy, except it's Idris Elba is a
business guy, so you still don't want to mess with him.
We also got a trailer for a series called His
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and Hers. This is based off a thriller novel from
twenty twenty. It starts Tessa Thompson and John Burenthaal. This
is unlike the novel, but they're playing a married couple
in the series. She's a reporter, he's a law enforcement officer.
There's a murder that happens. It brings up tensions in
their relationship because she suspects that he might have had
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something to do with it. I read spoilers about the
novel that this story is based off of, and I
don't think i'll watch this.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It does look intense for sure. Yeah, now we're into
things that do fit, but we might also have to
blast through these a little bit. We're so sorry. Yeah,
we wanted to talk with each other at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
The Big one. The Big one is one that we
were all waiting for. There was like a teaser for
the trailer, and then the trailer itself is still kind
of a teaser and it's for Supergirl. What did you
think of the Supergirl trailer?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It started off, I thought with a really great vibe
where you see Crypto the Menes dog wandering around Supergirl's
bedroom peeing on a newspaper, which I could have done without,
but I understand why they did it because it follows
up with a really cute moment of Supergirl going, oh
you got it mostly on the paper, good boy, while
she's hung over. Delightful vibe. I loved it. And then
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it turned into Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, I had it, where it's this huge Guardians vibes
on this as far as tone goes complete with like
the music choice that goes with it. You know, James
Gunn has talked about Supergirl gets to be messy, gets
to be a messy superhero the way male superheroes have
been allowed to be, but frequently we don't really accept
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that with female superheroes, like they suddenly we require them
to be perfect. But the male superheroes they could be
damaged or whatever. And she's like, He's like, nope, this
girl is damaged. And we also got a very quick
look at Lobo in.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The trailer, played by Jason Momoa.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yep, yep. So mostly we see see glowing eyes and
a glowing end of a cigar and otherwise mostly a silhouette.
The other thing I wrote is that this one comes
out on my birthday, June twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Happy Birthday. I really did like Superman. I know not
everybody did, but I really enjoyed it. I realized that
the formula that James Gunn has been playing with in
these big like company kind of pieces with you know,
cheeky humor and great classic music, works really well. It
is doing. It's not a bad formula. I have enjoyed
quite a few of the movies he's made that way.
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I just I hope that it doesn't become too boiler plate,
because then it will lose its term.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah. I think if we were looking at a spectrum
on the DC side and saying Superman on one side
and the Suicide Squad on the other side, this probably
falls closer to the suicide Squad side than the Superman one.
But also, like, there's a line in that trailer where
she differentiates herself from cal El from Superman by saying
he sees the good in people, I see the truth.
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So she's a much more cynical character.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah. Yeah, And I've enjoyed his work, so I will
continue to watch it. I just I don't want it
to get people had Superhero, you know, super Hero movie
fatigue for a while, and I don't want this to
fall into the same category, because if the DC universe
has a chance, I want it to have that chance.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah. We also got a trailer for season five of
The Boys. There's not a lot of context in this trailer.
It's a lot of sequences that just kind of give
a vibe, and that vibe being like overwhelming odds, incredible violence, oppression,
gore so there's not a lot to talk about as
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far as like what we think is going on, except
for the fact that it's gearing up toward the final
confrontation between the Boys and Vought and their superheroes, specifically Homelander.
So although we did get to see Jared PADLEECHI finally.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, I love the Supernatural Boys. They've got such
a great chemistry together, it's not enough to make me
watch this final season. The first half of the trailer
was less upsetting than several of the previous season trailers,
and then we got to the second half of the
trailer and I'm like, oh, okay, it's hard to watch again.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, you're seeing Homelander beat somebody to a pulp and
we don't know who yet. You know, there are good
odds that someone that's on his own side, because he
is not a very he's not stable.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Are you Are you going to be watching this final season?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I might, simply because I did watch the other four,
but I didn't watch gen V season two, so I
don't know, Like it's possible that I'll just read about
it right Because the issue I have with the Boys
is the same as the issue I have with a
lot of you know, postmodern superhero takes in that it
often feels over the top Grim for the sake of
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being over the top Grim And I get the idea
that if you, if you were to hand people, you know,
practically unlimited power, they would do very selfish, terrible things.
But I don't need that for my escapism because I
see that already, right, like I see people in positions
of power doing very bad things. So I don't need
that in.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
My entertainment, for sure, for sure. Moving on, we got
a trailer for the Copenhagen Test starring Seemuli Yu, and
I'm going to be honest, then the trailer didn't give
me the full concept behind what is happening in this story,
and I'm having a hard time wrap in my head
around it.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh sure, So Simuelo is playing an intelligence agent who
has been hacked, Like literally he has been hacked. His
brain is emitting Wi Fi signals, So they figure that
someone has compromised him, not even knowingly, like he's not
necessarily knowingly acting as a double agent, but effectively he
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is because he's gathering intelligence and someone else is profiting
from it. So they decide to use him in a
way to spy on the spies who are spying on
the spies. So I don't know why you couldn't follow that.
I mean, that's so simple, right.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You're you're right, You're right. I should have paid more attention.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But it is. It is absolutely ludicrous. It is one
of those things where it's like, Okay, how many layers
does the onion have? But but it looks, it looks interesting,
and yes, Simu is great, he's a great actor. Comes
out December twenty seventh or eight episodes, so it is
a series and this one's on Peacock Nice.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
We also got a trailer for Paradise season two. Paradise
is a story about you find out in the first
episode that everybody is living inside of this giant like
bunker after an apocalyptic event similar to Fallout, but I
think came out before Fallout. I actually don't know, actually
don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's a Hulu series. It's got Sterling K. Brown in
the lead role. He plays a secret service agent. In
the first season. It's kind of like a murder mystery
type thing where the President's been killed and he's trying
to find out who did it while he himself is
under suspicion for possibly having committed the murder.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Because they're all in a bunker with a limited amount
of people who have been spared from the apocalypse that
they knew was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, and season two looks like he's going beyond that.
He's going back out into the world for some reason,
like they need to find out what's going on out there,
and either he volunteers or is volunteered to do it.
It opens with him trying to get out of a
crashed airplane, like a small heat airplane.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He's looking for his family who didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Oh, I did not know that that was what was happening.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm sorry if that's a spoiler. Season one's been out
for a while.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It really gives me, honestly, it gives me a lot
of Silo vibes, like I was feeling a lot like Silo.
This one comes out February twenty third.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I did watch a couple of the first episode, a
couple of the episodes of the first season. I enjoyed it.
I don't know why I stopped watching it. It might
be one of those ones that's hard to pick back
up without a reminder of.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
What I watched. Gotcha. Next time, we got a trailer
for All You Need Is Killed. This is based off
the exact same light novel source that Edge of Tomorrow
slash Lived, I Repeat came from, but it's not a
direct adapt like it's not seen for Seeing a direct
adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. It actually shifts
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the POV to a different character who is also going
through a time loop situation. So if you don't know
what this is. In the basic story, aliens that are
able to mimic humans are attacking Earth, and a person
who's been conscripted into Earth's fighting force is killed by
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the alien, but then wakes up that from that same
morning before they were killed and relives that day over
and over while trying to figure out a way to
both break the time loop and defeat the aliens. This
one looks like it's focusing on a totally different character
who's also experiencing a similar thing. So set in the
same world, same sequence of events, but a different character.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I kind of got the vibe that she wasn't in
the fighting force. Maybe she is, but rather that like
this alien like and I probably just misunderstood the trailer.
It almost felt like the Alien Force was being you
by society, and they didn't realize the danger that it was,
that it was trying to take.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Over entirely possible, entirely possible, Like, I don't know that
you misinterpreted. We'll find out more when it comes out
in January sixteenth. And then we got a trailer for
Avatar the Last Airbender season two, the live action adaptation
that's on Netflix. This season will introduce the Earth Benders,
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including Tof Byfong, and it comes out next year on Netflix.
What did you think of this trailer?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I didn't finish season one, but I did enjoy what
I watched. This trailer looks great tofas one to Tof,
I don't know is even though I don't remember how
to say her name is one of my favorite characters.
She's snarky and powerful and just so much fun. I
know that my niece is like, if they ruin her,
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I'm burning the show.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
To the ground. I will say, like, the music in
this trailer was great, very percussive.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I know your partner is a huge fan of Avatar
The Last Airbender. Did they watch season one?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Not the first season?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I need to we need to sit down and start
watching it because if season one is as good as
the trailer was for season two, I might actually be
into it. I infamously bounced off Avatar pretty early on
because it didn't grab me in the first couple of episodes,
and then everyone said, well, you gotta wait till it
gets good, like there's too much stuff to watch. I
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can't wait for something to get good.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I do know that my sister and her kids, who
her kids love Avatar the Last Air Under cartoon, were
ify on some of the changes they made. Again, I'm
fine with that for for live action. Some you know,
they were like some of the some of the growth
that some of the characters had changed paths a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
But yeah, Well, we also got a trailer because the
Game Awards. We got a trailer for the Street Fighter movie.
You're either gonna love this trailer or you're gonna hate
this trailer because it makes some choices.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I didn't get to say, so these last two stories
I didn't see.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Oh gosh, okay, so ariel, Yes, this this trailer looks
like a live action like it like if you were
to say, adapt Street Fighter two into a movie, that's
what this is like. It is like the tournament. They
even have the bonus scene where like in between fights
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where you would have to do things like destroy a
car with your moves and try and destroy a car
faster than your opponent. That's in the trailer that it
happens in the movie. It's got a crazy cast too,
like like two wrestlers. You got Roman Reigns as a
Kuma and Cody Roose as Guyle, but you also have
Jason Momoa as Blanca, Orville Peck is Vega, fifty Cent
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is Balrog, and David Desmalkian is Ral Julia. I'm sorry,
m Bison, and it comes out October because of October sixteenth. Okay,
I'm going to say this looks cheesy and schlocky, and
I loved it because it was so like it shocked
me how ridiculously cartoony it is.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
You've got to know what you are and embrace it,
and like you, if you fully, if you fully commit
to the bit you're doing, it's going to go over better.
So I love that they've done that.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, I mean, if you're looking for something that's gritty
or whatever, you're not going to find it there. It's
very very silly.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Similarly, very quickly. Something you took out. We got like,
we've been getting clips of Slattery, the Mandarin character from
Yes Iron Man doing talks about wonder Man, and I
love this marketing choice.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Is is cute. I only took it out just because
I was like, well, we've talked about wonder Man a
couple of times. Yeah, No, that's very cute. Finally, I'll
just do this real quick. We got coming in twenty two,
twenty six video from HBO which showed lots of clips
from all of their original programming, which included stuff like
glimpses of nine of the Seven Kingdoms what we've seen
more of that in trailers. We also saw there's a
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clip that you're going to be interested in this arel.
There's a two part documentary about mel Brooks and it's
called mel Brooks the ninety nine year Old Man. That
looks like that's going to be a lot of fun.
There's an untitled Larry David project that's how it was credited,
that sets it sets the comedian and his friends in
different historical settings. So I don't know what the deal
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is with that. We got a very quick look at
Stuart fails to Save the Universe. That's the Big Bang
Theory spin off is not shot in a sitcom style
at all. App Yeah, totally different approach, which surprised me.
They give a quick look at the next season for
House of the Dragon, a quick look at the next
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season for the Gilded Age, quick look at Dune Prophecy,
and the reason why you might want to watch this
video when you have some time Aeriel. We get our
first quick look at Lanterns, the series about the green lanterns.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I do, I do want to see that.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah. Yeah, they have a very short scene, like it's
it's not long, but it does give us our first
look at at interaction between Hal Jordan and John Stewart's
my favorite green lantern. There we go and yeah, like
we haven't seen green lantern since Superman. That is Guy Gardner.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah real quick. Did they show a clip from the
pit for this?
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yes? Yes, yes, I didn't include it because it's not genre.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
It's not genre. It would be in stuff that doesn't fit.
But I freaking love that show and I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah. No, they had clips from lots of other stuff
as well. Besides those were the ones that were in
the genre category.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Amazing, well, I thought that the holiday season would be quiet,
but we're getting a bunch of great stuff. It's making
me excited for next next year, just as a consumer
of media and also as an actor.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
So yeah, yeah, pretty cool. So because we are running
short on time, Ariel, just go ahead and let everyone
know how they can get in touch with us, and
let's wrap this sucker up like.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
A great present, like a Christmas present, a couple weeks early,
but that's fine. It's got to get through the mail.
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and until next time. I'm Ariel ho ho ho. That
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Speaker 2 (49:09):
That's really super Superman Strickland. Ho ho ho.
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I didn't even think about it till acer came out
my belt.
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Yeah, well, you're still my favorite. Ho ho. The Large
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