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February 14, 2025 89 mins

Love is in the air, or maybe that's just a very loud leaf blower. We chat about geek news, trailers shown during the big game, and we lament about how expensive it is to go to a theme park these days.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger Drawn Collider Podcast, a
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel casting and with me as always is being delightful.
Jonathan Strickland, will.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
You be my Valentine?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I think you already got one.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I mean I've got more than one, you know me.
Just Valentine's pouring in from all corners of the world.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I mean that is true, that is true.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's all those little goofy cards. They're actually goofy saying like,
you know, a hilk, I love you, that kind.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Of stuff I miss. I miss. First of all, Hey,
we're recording on Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day to everybody
I miss. Like school Valentine gift exchanges that was delightful
and a good candy hall those little heart lollipops with
like the white lettering.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
On them, Yeah so good. Those are Hershey's kiss is
also always a standby. Yeah. I liked it because we
were all kind of obligated to give one to every
single other student so that you wouldn't be the pariah
left out?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Did you also have to make like your your bo
you had to like decorate a shoe box to collect them.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I recall doing that vaguely. You gotta remember also, I
am old as dirt, so I vaguely remember that. Yeah.
I ended up giving Beca a couple of geeky Valentine's
Day gifts, so might as well mention that since it's
on theme. I gave her a coffee mug that says,
uh maw wige is what brings us togev today. Nice,

(01:51):
and I got her a Jorgees Spackle t shirt from Incanto.
I am orge a Spackle. And I got her a
Haunted Mansion shirt where it's the stretch portrait of the
young woman in a dress and a parasol walking across
the tight rope over like alligators. I gave her that

(02:13):
as one of her presents. Nice and Yeah, she liked
all of those. And she gave me hot sauce and
hob and yarrow peanut brittle.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh interesting. Yeah. I haven't done anything for Tony. That's
because we just got back from a vacation and it
was not the cheapest vacation. It wasn't the most expensive either,
but we just got back from a vacation, so we
might go out to dinner tomorrow. But right, that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think a vacation is kind of like, you know,
just saying it's an early Valentine's Day story.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, yeah, And we usually get each other a little something,
but this year, this month has been a little crazy
for us both, so we're just we're giving each other
the gift of like relaxation.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, you know, and no pressure and no.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Pressure like nicely. Valentine's Day lands on a three day
weekend for many people, including both of us who are
very fortunate. So the long weekend, we're gonna watch some
severance with some friends. We're getting them into. None of
our friends have Apple TV, so.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You're gonna become the first one's free house.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah yeah, so we're going to do that. We might
go to dinner. I've got a tabletop game I'm playing
on Sunday, so.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Whereas I'm taking my niece to disney Land out in California.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It'll be so much fun.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, So that's gonna be. That's gonna be what we
do early next week. We're just doing a one day
each at each of the parks and then flying back
and then then I'm I'm home for two days and
then I turn around and fly to Katar woof. I
know that's gonna be. So we don't know if we'll

(03:59):
be record over the next two weeks. I'm going to
try to record next week because I will be home
for a couple of days, so I should be able to.
But the Friday after that, it will depend on whether
or not I'm conscient.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah. Yeah, and full disclosure, Jonathan's awesome and put together
the lion's share of today's episode, and that'll be my
responsibility next week.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, because you were on vacation this week and I'll
be on vacation next week. So yeah, Well, let's talk
about stuff what we have seen since the last time
we recorded. We both continued to watch Severance, so we're
both caught up as of today, although episode five drops today,
so we haven't seen that one yet.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, I think it's already out because the reviews are
already starting to come in. Did I read them? No,
this is one show I actually do not want spoilers for.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah. I managed to watch episode four without having seen
any spoilers. Part of it is that now that I'm
off so social networks it's way easier for me to
avoid spoilers than it was before, for sure, But I
gotta say, like, without spoiling episode four, it was not
what I expected based upon the end of episode three.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, No, not at all. Yeah, but I liked it.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I liked it too. I was frustrated at first because
I feel like there's a little bit of a rug
pull situation going on with Severance where they set something
up and then instead of paying it off, like it's
like Chekhov's gun, except instead of them showing off the gun,
and then later in the play they fire the gun,

(05:43):
they show off the gun, and then three plays later
the gun is fired. Right.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I was about to say, they do resolve stuff, It's
just not a right way. Although I guess the one
spoiler I didn't manage to avoid is they might resolve
some stuff more quickly this episode. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, well, we're both caught up on that. But other
than that, you actually went and saw yourself one of
them horror movies I keep hearing about.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I did because I was, like I said, on vacation,
some of our friends were there, and a few of
our friends really like horror movies and also like drop
Out and Josh Ruben. We went to see Heart Eyes,
which we've talked about on the show a few times. Yeah,
rom com meet cute meat scream with a murderer, like

(06:30):
a serial killer who kills couples on Valentine's Day, or
not even on Valentine's Day, but you know, that's a
good day for it.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
It was really cute. Some of the stuff they could
have gone a lot more graphic with and they didn't.
There were like four or five times when it got
pretty graphic, but there was a lot of like suspense
leading up to it, so I don't know how much
of that was just me anticipate it. There were a

(07:02):
few moments where I just had to close my eyes.
But it was a really good balance between the scary
and the cute, the cute and funny. You know, it's
like if a Hallmark movie met Scream but more clever.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's great, though, So you enjoyed it overall.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I did enjoy it overall. Again, I had interest in
it because I like Josh Ruben. I think he's a
funny guy, and I think he did an amazing job
to write. He didn't write Hard Eyes. I don't think,
but he did direct it, and I think he did
an amazing job. So yeah, it was. It was a
if you like scary, suspenseful movies and don't mind a

(07:41):
little bit of gore and a little bit of like
blue humor, there's a little bit of it, not too
too much, but a little bit. Yeah, it's it's just
a fun popcorn movie.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Cool. Yeah. And what else did you watch?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well? I watched pop Culture Jeopardy one episode away from
being caught up. They're in their quarterfinals. The final episodes
of copercrat Kai dropped yesterday, so Thursday, so I'm watching that.
We're two episodes in and the second episode of this

(08:18):
final release of series shares a mutual like artsy friend
of ours Brian Troxel, who just was hilarious so funny.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And then episode episode twelve, which is the one we
ended on because eleven and twelve were the first two
of the ones they released in this final round, ever,
was ended on such an uplifting, positive, happy note that
like I was crying, good crying, and like I was like,
this is what I needed to lift my spirits today.

(08:53):
So I'm really enjoying it, especially where they left off
the second part of season six, the final season. The
way they're picking it back up, I'm really into.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
So that's great.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
And then oh and then my group watch my virtual
group watch party got done with Arcane season two, which
we didn't watch because we just didn't have time. And
Tony's not a huge fan of it. Just he it's like,
the art style is beautiful, the story is not quite
there for him.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Gotcha. So y'all just sat it out for this one.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
We sat that out. But we started a new one
tonight and we're probably not going to get all the
way through, but we started BSG again.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Battlestar Galactica.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah wait, okay, wait about an hour into the mini series.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, so you're talking about the reboot. Yeah, obviously not
the nineteen seventies era battle start Sadly, no, that was
my Battlestar Galactica.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know, and that and that was mine and any
like longtime listeners of our show will know that because
the old one was the one that I saw first.
Getting into the new one was really hard for me,
so much so that if I watched the mini series
before the actual series of the reboot, I don't remember
it like at all.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, because that's what sets up the whole like actual
series series.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah. Also, there's a character named D on the show
for anybody who hasn't watched it, and I cannot help
but call her sweet D, and it inferiences my husband.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And I was a bird, she's a bird. I tried
watching Ballistar Galadica because so many of our friends were, Like,
there's certain shows that if you were friends with, like
hardcore science fiction geeks, that you've likely been exposed to
and maybe some of them clicked with you in some

(10:46):
This was one of those that never clicked with me,
so I never really got into it. Same with Babylon five.
I never got into Babylon five. But you know, I
did watch the original series back when it was on
the seventies and early eighties, and I love the theme
song to the original series, which does get incorporated as

(11:07):
sort of a battle anthem kind of thing in the
reboot series. It's not their main thing. Bear McCreary does
amazing work, so I don't want to disparage him. Yeah,
he's a phenomenal artist.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I like I like his I like his Lost soundtrack
better though.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Okay, So yeah, I watched I finally finished What If
Season three. So I watched all of What If. I
thought it was fine. I thought it was fine. I
didn't like I know some people felt like season three
was kind of like a let down after season two.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I think season three I liked way better than season two. Personally.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I like, I think season one is still my favorite.
If I'm being honest, I think season one is still
my favorite season. But season three was fine. I thought
that the two part finale with the whole, you know,
the Watchers kind of thing, got a little tiresome. I
was like, oh, so this is the cartoon version of

(12:08):
everyone's flying around everywhere and big lasers are coming out
of them all the time and not apparently doing anything
to anybody. It'd be kind of like if we were
to have a fight and everyone gets a flashlight. That's
the only weapon you have, and you're not allowed to
use it as a melee weapon, so you're just turning
the flashlight on and shining it at people, like, Okay,

(12:29):
but that doesn't it's illuminating me, But that's it might
as well be the same for these kind of characters,
like everybody's this cosmic level hero, even characters who shouldn't
be like, listen, I love Peggy Carter. I love her,
and I love Agent Carter slash Captain Britain. I love

(12:52):
that character. She does not belong in a a fight
between cosmic level entities. Yeah, it's like Captain America being
involved in something like that, Captain America versus Silver Surfer.
I'm like, well, that's that's not fair.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Except for I guess Captain Britain in this iteration did
become kind of an anomaly, so it probably gave her
some extra powers.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Maybe they never really explained any of that very well.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
What do you think about the new original character.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh, the daughter of two incidental characters in the Marvel
cinemat ulumbers who happens to be the most powerful. Yeah,
amusing like it. I it took me a second to
figure out who she was. Yeah, but then but then
it clicked. And then I turned to Becca and I
was like, you know who that is?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And I told her and she's like, oh my god.
I'm like, yeah, you can tell from the thing on
her forehead it's the same character.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
And she's like, oh yeah, it took me a while too.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
But yeah, I it is fine, It is fine. I
didn't I didn't dislike it. I enjoyed it well enough.
I mean there were certain episodes that, like I said before,
the the Mecca Hulk one, I just didn't care about.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
What'd you think about the shang Chi Kate Bishop episode?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
That one was okay? The Western h Yeah, the best
part about that for me was that Walton Goggins was back. Yeah,
Walton Goggins is. He's quickly becoming one of my favorite
actors full stop.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So I bet you're excited for the next season of
White Lotus to come out this weekend.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm really excited about the next season of Fallout. That's
what I'm excited. But I also just started watching This
is an old series. It's been out for well not old,
but it's been out for a few years. I just
started watching The Righteous Gemstones and Walton Goggins plays a
recurring character on that and I love I hate the character,

(14:59):
but I his performance. I hate all the character Everybody
in that show is despicable.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I think you're supposed to like them.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
No you're not. You're not supposed to like them. They're
all despicable characters. But yeah, his his character is entertaining.
So yeah, that's what I've been that in Severance, like
I said, and we already kind of talked about how
like I'm enjoying it. I hope they stopped the rug
pulling stuff, because to end an episode with like a

(15:32):
big twist or a big event that's clearly going to
change everything and then the kind of put that to
the side for the following episode is really frustrating.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
They put it to the site, they did reference it
at least once.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yes, yes, about about four fifths of the way through
the episode, like four fifths of the episode have gone
by with no like at one point, I wasn't even
fully sure or if what we were seeing happened after
episode three, or if it was something that happened before episode.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Three, if it was a dream, or or if.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
It was a dream that was the other one. I
was like, please don't make this a dream episode.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, I get it, you know, I think that was
kind of kind of the point. I don't mind it.
I did. I did find, like you and I both know,
that Luman has a the corporation with in Sefferance has
a LinkedIn page. For some reason, I read their description
and I was just so delighted that they had a
LinkedIn page that I forgot to actually look at the

(16:37):
rest of it. They post regular regular posts from the
office workplace of Lumen, including videos and memos, and it's
hilarious nice.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I will say there was one thing that happened in
episode four that did make me think at first that
it was a dream. And it was that, and I'm
not going to give any spoilers away, but they are
They're not inside a building, they're outside and they have
there's a television and like a VCR essentially set up

(17:12):
that plays a video in the middle of the outdoors
with no cables or anything, and it's just playing. And
I thought, well, this has to be a dream because
there's no source of power to run this thing.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
So I thought so too, or it could be a
space within the building and not really outside. But I
saw something on social I'm not going to say it
here because it will be a spoiler to anybody who
hasn't seen the episode that I don't know makes it
makes it so that it seems like it may not
actually be like a giant sound stage inside the Living Corporation.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, no, I think it is supposed to be outdoors,
just based upon like because even a giant sound stage.
I can't imagine being that large, and it would have
to be the Hola deck from Star.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Trek, which way it also hurts my mind.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Anyway, it was. It was a fun departure. I almost
wish it had come one episode later, Like I wish
that they had an episode that dealt more with what
happened at the end of episode three, then done this
episode like Gus five, because that would have, I think,
given us a little more time. But maybe they needed

(18:25):
that in order to, you know, develop the story more.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah. I feel like what happened at the end of
episode three is going was such a big thing that
I expected to come much later in the show that
I think it's going to be a long game sort
of a revelation.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah. Well, let's move from the long game to our
short game, and that short game being thirty second or less.
I get started this week, so here we go. James
Gunn shared a cheeky Superman promo on during last weekend's
Big Game. In case you haven't seen it, the spot

(19:04):
features Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, the jerk Green Lantern,
sporting his comic accurate bowl cut, and to top it off,
it has the caption the only bowl I Need while
Fillian runs his fingers over his hairdo Fans are pretty
much split down the middle over whether this was a
good or bad idea.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
But Nathan Fillion's hair is not split down the middle.
I actually haven't seen it. I'm sad. I'll have to
go look that up. If you are waiting for the
Dungeons and Dragons show after the Dungeons and Dragons movie,
while that kind of fizzled, but you're in luck because
Netflix has pickn up a Dungeons and Dragons series. It's
going to be called The Forgotten Realms. It's live action,

(19:46):
and this time, instead of being the person behind I
think it's Red One, it's going to be Sean Levy,
who is behind Stranger Things and Deadpool and Wolfe and
Drew Cravello from a show called Wee Crash. I don't know,
and of course Hasbro. I honestly like, I like Sean

(20:07):
Levy's style, and I like to changing with things in
Deadpool and Wolverine, and I think those are both some
great kind of vibes to put into Dungeons and Dragons.
So I'm really excited.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Cool. Well, now for our token Tolkien news item. The
Hollywood Reporters shared that The Rings of Power is getting
a season three on Prime Video, and what's more, it
will feature a bit of a time jump, so in
the upcoming season, Surron will be hard at work forging
his one ring. You know, that's the piece of jewelry
that caused all the fuss in those other movies. The

(20:38):
series is in pre production, with filming to begin in
the spring, So no word on when we can actually
expect to watch this.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Other things that we don't know quite when we're going
to get to watch Starfleet Academy, the new Starfleet, the
new star Trek show that's coming out. Just finished filming.
It wrapped on filming season one, commemorated it with little
jacket like kind of letterman jackets and pennants, and apparently

(21:07):
they would work. They worked six months, sometimes twelve hour days,
So I bet they're going to really enjoy the break
before it comes out. It looks like it might come
out in early twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Warner Brothers continues to milk franchises with its plans to
launch a new adaptation of the Harry Potter books on HBO.
Rumor has it that John Lithgow is in talks to
play Dumbledore, and I suppose this means Rowlling. It's not
being as precious about her work this time around, since
last time she demanded that all actors playing her characters
be from the British Isles. On a personal note, I

(21:41):
will not be watching this.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Don't do it, Lithgow, don't.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Do it legally.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Blonde has a prequel series coming out called el We
knew that, but now we know who it will be
playing Elle Woods, and that is Lexi Miindtree. Super lurks
the part, and she looks excited to do it. I
am not super sure what she's done. I guess Law
and Order and The Murder Murders. I don't watch either really,

(22:13):
but hopefully he'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I mean, has anyone not done Law and Order at
this point?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I mean not all of it. I've seen occasional episodes.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah. No. What I mean is has any actor not
been in Law and Order?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yes? Jonathan?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant you know, never mind. Okay.
Our top pick for antagonist the upcoming Labyrinth sequel is
no longer an option. That's because Tilda Swinton has announced
at the Berlin Film Festival that she is taking a
break from filmmaking and that she won't shoot another film
for the rest of twenty twenty five. She's instead focusing

(22:49):
her time and talent on something else, which she is
not yet ready to reveal. So it sounds like she
will be back, but we will have to be patient.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I wish her the best of luck. She's writing something.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Could be that's it, that's it, that's it for thirty
seconds or less, I do. I will say, like that
John Lithgal thing. You know, he played a trans character,
so it is kind of odd that he is in
talks to play Dumbledore in the Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Here's the shit. So I have friends who are in
the LGBTQ community who still love Harry Potter. Yeah, that's
everybody's individual choice, but just story wise, I look back
on it and it's like Titanic for me. The more
I look back on the story, the more I'm like, Ooh,
that wasn't great. This wasn't cool. That also wasn't cool,

(23:44):
And it's a whole bunch of stuff. So I'm I'm
not I'm not interested in a I'm sorry if for
anybody who still likes Harry Potter. I hope you enjoy it.
I'm not interested.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, same like I'm not gonna begrudge anyone they're in
enjoy of something. It's I mean, it comes down to
personal choice, right, Like in my personal choice is just
that it's hard for me to reconcile a work of
art with an author who holds views that I find objectionable.

(24:16):
And let's same with Neil Gamen, right, Like Neil Gaman
and the revelations about his behaviors are such that it's
really tainted all the works that he did for me. Yeah,
and that is I'm not saying that has to be
the same for everybody. I'm saying for me personally, that's
how it impacts me, and thus I am less inclined

(24:41):
to seek that kind of content out.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, we're kind of talking about that over the weekend
with with the Neil gam In books, because his comics
are very like important parts of some of my friend's
lives growing up, right, And it's a lot harder to
separate the art from the art when they're a current
art artist making current art.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah. But yeah, there's that whole concept of death of
the author where it's not a literal death, it's meant
meant to separate the author from the works of that author.
And you know, like there are different degrees to which
that is even attainable, and it really is a very

(25:30):
subjective thing. Son Lindsay Ellis actually has some great video
essays about the death of the author phenomena.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, and you know, I still own Baby Driver, although
I bought it before any of the actors had known issues.
And also it supports a lot more actors than the
one actor who ended up being problematic out of it, so.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
That being Kevin Spacey rather than just kind of walking
around that.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I just the name was not coming to my
brain at the exact saccond.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Well, yeah, I mean he paid he paid me, not
Kevin Spacey. Egger Wright paid me quite a chunk of
change for doing Baby Driver. Because my house is in it.
Oh nice, just in the background, Like they literally they
paid the hoa a little bit of money so that
they could set up lights and stuff around our townhouses.

(26:23):
And there's a blink and you literally will miss it
moment where you can see the townhouses in the background.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I have literally missed your townhouse every time I've watched
that movie.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's when they're driving in to meet with the arms dealer,
and it's as they're driving in, they're driving into the
old Pullman train yard back before it got totally renovated. Yeah,
it used to be that the place across the street
from my house was this old abandoned train yard with
like big empty, decrepit warehouses. They shot tons of stuff

(26:56):
in there, including some of a falcon in the Winter Soldier.
So there was like this whole sequence a falcon of
the Winter Soldier, Like that's across the street from my house.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
The problem with baby Drivers. I love that they said, well,
we're filming this in Atlanta, let's just set it in
Atlanta instead of la like we were originally planning. But
the piece, it's it's like they took a jingsaw puzzle.
And I know I've talked about this before, so I
won't harp on it. They took the jigsaw puzzle, they
smashed all the pieces together, so when you're watching it,
the locations don't jive and it's very discombobulating.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, Like like they'll be like, oh, I'm just going
to go down the street and get coffee, and they
go to a coffee shop and you're like, oh, that's
not anywhere close to that part of town. Yeah, like
that is a good coffee shop, don't get me wrong.
It's just that you're going to be getting in a
car driving twenty minutes if you want to go to
that one. Yeah, but that's I'm sure it's the same
for anyone, like whenever they're watching something that was shot

(27:48):
in their hometown.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I hear it because my in laws are in Pittsburgh,
so I hear a lot of people talk about Pittsburgh
having the same frustrations about.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well, that's all the zombies, because Georgia and all of
his zombie movies in Pittsburgh. Well, let's let's talk about
we had a whole bunch of stuff come out since
the last time. Now, obviously when we recorded last time,
it was before the superb Owl, and we talked in
that episode about how there were rumblings of how certain

(28:18):
studios might or might not have spots lined up for it,
because it turns out, you know, it's really expensive to
secure an ad spot during the big game. And sure enough,
like we only have a couple in our lineup that
even were shown during that game. First up, though we
have a spot to promote Disney Plus the streaming service,

(28:43):
and they leaned hard on a Marvel property that we've
already mentioned in this episode.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, it's the what if big Game spot, and it
basically asks what if there wasn't this thing? What if
what if Joy didn't exist? And then but the one
that got me was what if Bart didn't see more butts?
And that made the entire spot worth it to me.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, it was all hitting on different properties that Disney
now owns, so like, what if Joy doesn't exist was
referencing inside Out obviously what if Bart was referencing Simpson's. Yeah,
it was actually a little edgier, Like it's not like
it's super edgy, It's still totally broadcast worthy, but like

(29:33):
there was a bit more attitude than what I was
expecting from Disney.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, and it also wasn't quite as close So it
was cute. It wasn't quite as clever as maybe I
was hoping going into it, because it asks what if
there weren't these things? And then it just repeats, but
there are all these things and so I was like, Okay,
that that feels like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
It feels like it would have been better if it
were a two heart spot where the first half is
what if these things didn't exist? And then you're like
left with this dystopian landscape like post apocalyptic style or whatever,
and then go to a different commercial and then come back,
but don't worry, they do exist. It picks right back

(30:17):
up and everything's okay again.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah. I think because the punchlines of not existing in
the punchlines of yes they do exist were the exact same,
it got a little tedious.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, no, not the best spot, whereas we also got
an updated, almost more like a teaser, really another trailer
for Novacane. That's the movie with Jack Quaid where he's
playing a character who is incapable of feeling pain who
gets drawn into an action thriller kind of situation. I

(30:51):
don't know that there was a whole lot in this
trailer that wasn't in the other one we had already seen,
but it clearly was cut in a different way.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. It looks
like all of the beats our beats we've already seen,
if not in the same order.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
It still looks like it's going to be an entertaining film.
Jack Quade is just incredibly charismatic. I find him fun
to watch. I don't know. I don't know if I'll
be able to stomach a full feature length film of
him getting battered around like crazy, even though even though
his character can't feel anything, just some of that stuff

(31:28):
is like body horror type yeah stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, same, same, I might, I might. I want to.
I want to support the actors in the filmmakers that
I like in the theaters because that's important. But I don't.
I don't know. I'll have to. I guess I'll have
to read some spoilers first.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, this one, this one i'd probably check out. I
mean it, actually, it kind of gives me some of
those those vibes of like those those really innovative action
movies like Hardcore. Henry was one where it was that
first person perspective action film or I can't remember what
the name of the movie was. It was the one

(32:10):
where a guy gets like an artificial intelligence chip in
his head that controls him at certain times and makes
him like an incredibly effective fighter. I don't remember what
the name of that movie was, but that one was
pretty clever too. This kind of gives me those vibes.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, yeah, same what do you think about the new
Thunderbolts trailer? That is one that was suspected we'd get
and we did get.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I liked it. It gave us a little bit more context.
You know, we don't get to see the big bad.
We do see that there is something very bad happening.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
We maybe do well.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think we already have seen the big bad. We
just do you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I because there's the guy who's flying around who looks
like super It's Century, It's Century. I think that's the
bad guy.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But you don't really see
him that much in this trailer. I guess you do
a little bit. You mostly see the team that makes
up the Thunderbolts Asterisk, which is like, you know, Yelena
and Red Guardian and Ghost and task Master US Agent. Yeah.

(33:24):
And I like the humor on display. I like the
attempts at trying to create a team out of people who,
at one time or another have been shown as being
villains or at least opposed to the America of MCU,

(33:48):
you know, at some point or another, especially in the
case of Red Guardian. I think it's going to be
an entertaining film. I feel a little better about that
than I currently do about I haven't seen Captain America
Brave New World yet, but I'm feeling like Thunderbolts is
going to probably be the film I prefer over the

(34:09):
Captain America one. I did hear one reviewer say that
Captain America Brave New World is the best episode of
Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I'd believe it. I think. I think Crispy also enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, but Chrispy enjoys everything.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
There's like two movies in the last ten years he
didn't like.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I don't think he liked meg I don't think he
liked Megalopolis.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
That was one of the two.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
But yeah, I like that the trailer focused on not
just all action or not just all on snarky. It
feels like it's going to be a well balanced emotional journey.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah. I like that. I'm curious if this is going
to turn out to be one of those things where
the team is formed by Bucky and not formed by
the government, it'll be interesting. Julia Louise Drevis's character, who's
like the head of not Hydra but well no, but

(35:08):
she's like she's like part of some black ops kind
of group, and I get the feeling that I'm getting
a real suicide squad feeling like almost like whatever she
does is the thing that leads to the crisis, and
that these characters are the ones who are left to
try and stop that crisis. And that's just the sense

(35:31):
I got from the trailer. I could be a billion
percent off on that.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, I mean that's also what I got from it
as well. But we already knew that Thunderbolts was going
to be kind of a kind of a suicide squad
kind of group.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, which is true to the comics as well.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
So yeah, it looks like she was a member of Well, gosh,
I thought I had it. I mean they talked about
it in Falcon and Winter Soldier a little bit. They
talked about it, I think in Iron Man two.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
She also shows up at the end of Black Widow. Yeah,
I guess she does, because she she comes up to
Yellina while Yellina is grieving for Natasha.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, I don't sorry, there's I'm wasting time because there's
a leaf blower outside my window and they shouldn't be
here on a Friday, and I'm really mad at mad
Leviathan Lethan is her group.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, I don't know anything about that within the MCU,
but yeah, so we'll see. I am cautiously optimistic for
Thunderbolts more so than I like. I was really hopeful
for Captain America Brave New World because everything we were
hearing early on before, like tons of reshoots had to
take place, indicated that was going to be kind of

(36:52):
Winter Soldier esque. But everything I've been hearing since then
sounds like it's not bad. It's just you should go
in with lowered expectations.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I'm still looking forward to it because I think Sam
Wilson as Captain America is awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
But following up, Anthony Mackie does do a great job
as Sam, so yeah, I do look forward to seeing
more of that. And I like the Isaiah Bradley character
a lot too, so I'm looking forward to seeing more
of him.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Next up, I have a trailer here that was I
told Ariel she might not want to watch. So first
of all, did you watch this?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yes? I did, because while I do trust your opinion
and I actually did not quite enjoy the trailer, I
am looking forward to the studio in general, as a project.
It's the trailer for the studio the Apple TV show.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Which it starts off as a fake trailer, kind of
similar to what was in movies like Tropic Thunder, where
they're watching a trailer for a film called The dub Apocalypse,
where it's a zombie movie, but the zombies pass on
the zombie disease through explosive of diarrhea, which is just

(38:02):
as sophisticated and classy as I made it sound just then.
And that's the joke, right, Like, this is a studio
reviewing this trailer for this incredibly juvenile horror comedy, but
still talking about how like, oh no, we want to
make sure that the message gets across, but we also

(38:23):
really need the explosive diarrhea to be in the trailer.
That kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, I so this this show, this trailer rather sorry,
the leaf floor is so distracting. Oh, this trailer reminded
me kind of of Future Man, that show that I
admitted to everybody that I kind of enjoyed even though
it was absolutely horrible and I don't recommend it to everyone.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I finally saw a clip from that, and I
didn't know what the clip was from it first and
then I looked it up and this literally happened today
and it was Future Man, and I was like, that
sounds familiar. Why do I know that it's because of you?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
And you know it was a collaboration between Josh Hutchardson
and Seth Rogan, who are both in the The Apocalypse trailer.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
So yeah, yeah, it looks well. Catherine Hahn is in
it too, and like Catherine Hahn is O'Hara some of
my favorite performers. So looking forward to seeing to seeing
more of this because obviously, if there's one thing that

(39:33):
Hollywood likes above everything else, it's shows or movies that
are about the Hollywood experience, whether it's one where it's
skewering Hollywood by pointing out all the ridiculous stuff that
happens there, or it's one that is just celebrating the
story of you know, becoming a star or whatever. Hollywood

(39:57):
loves that. So I'm sure that it'll be similar to
that in this as as Aeriel turns a deeper shade
of red and continuously mutes and unmutes or.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Microphone, I'm sorry, it's going to give you, guys some
really fantastic audio though, Just like it'll keep you on
your feet.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I'll try and remove some of the noise. We'll see
how well it goes. It probably won't go so well
because I didn't really get a lot of room tone.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
But okay, they I usually like you nod at me, like, hey,
start the episode. Well I'm just giving you ten seconds
of room tone.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well yeah, well yeah, I have regular room tone, but
that was before the noise. Like room tone is there,
so I can remove any hum or noise that's in
the background. But the leaf blower didn't come in until
like we were forty minutes in or whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, they're supposed to. They used to leafblow I think
on like Tuesday at eight in the morning, which also
wasn't fantastic. But it's better than this. I wasn't made
aware of the change, so that's why I didn't schedule
recording around them. So sorry.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
That might be because of the weather we've had here
in Atlanta. We had a lot of rain.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, we got flooded in yesterday.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well. We also got a teaser, a big game teaser
for Lelo and Stitch, which, like a lot of the
other teasers, didn't actually show us content from the movie.
It showed us like Stitch running around a football field.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Here's the thing, thing though, Oh, here's the thing though.
I feel like the teaser we got of Stitch like
kicking around the sand castles are being held up like
Simba and the Lion King. Those are super well rendered,
right because they made sure that they were spot on
for CED twenty three or whatever it was D twenty three, Lauren,

(41:45):
What is wrong with me today? Nothing but this this
super Bowl trailer? It didn't look as good.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, I I don't. I don't get why they
decided to go with another Like they kind of did
this with Leelo and Stitch in various Disney merch for
a long time, where Stitch would invade other character's stuff,

(42:12):
which is cute and all, but like, I kind of
would rather see a sequence from the film same.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
My guess is maybe, well, one they're probably trying to
bank on that same kind of nostalgia, but two maybe
they just didn't have it ready. Could be I don't
know when they bought their spot. But also with like
the if they're doing any production in la that certainly
probably got camperd Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
From the fires. Well, we'll keep an eye out for
more Leelo and stitch stuff. I'm still not super excited
about that because we already saw this movie when it
came out as an animated film, so I don't really
need to see the live action version, but I'm sure
they'll do a good job with it. It's just like, well, yeah,
but I've already I've already seen it.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
That's okay, you can watch the Minecraft movie instead.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, we got a new trailer for Minecraft. This showed
a little bit more stuff of what's going on in
the world of Minecraft. And UH, still don't think it's
for me, but I think it's the sort of thing
that you know, some kids are gonna really think is entertaining.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah. I had to. I had to go back and
watch it twice because at one point in the trailer,
Jason Momoa's character makes he crafts a couple of buckets together,
and I couldn't tell a chain together, chain together because
you can throw them. Uh, And I didn't know if
he called them buck chuckets or butt chuckets, and I'd

(43:49):
believe either.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I thought I thought it was buck chuck its because
it's nun chucks, but with buckets.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
It's probably what happened. But my brain keeps wanting to
call them butt chuckets, well, which is what was in
the do Apocalypse movie. So it's fine, It's true we.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Got a lot of butt chuckets in that movie. Yeah,
it looks cute. I don't I don't know. I also
feel like there are too many protagonists in that movie,
Like I feel like, like, why do you have this
many characters.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
They aren't protagonists. They're all quirky sidekicks, every single one
of them, including the main character.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I yeah, it's not for me. I'm okay with that.
We also got a trailer for The Wheel of Time
season three, which I haven't watched any of the Wheel
of Time stuff, so none of this really mattered to me.
I did think that I wish they didn't go with
a trailer cliche where it's the world is changing, Like

(44:58):
that's such a tired cliche that when I hear it now,
I'm like, I expect it to be a spoof or
a parody.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
So I agree, And I think part of it is
because the first two seasons, you go through all of
the seasons just to find out you're going through the
same cycle. Because it's a Wheel of Time, right, it
just keeps cycling through. I have watched the first two seasons.
I've not read the books. I have dear friends who

(45:28):
absolutely love the books and the author and all that stuff.
I just haven't fully read a book in a very
long time. And like it's okay. Some of the characters
have cool arcs. I think I have two problems with

(45:49):
the series, and one of it is that like some
of the actors have that very like Stargate Stargate sci
fi series feel where they're just a little too shiny
for the world they've been put in. They have to
coin a gen z gen Alpha term. They have iPhone face,

(46:11):
which means they look more modern. They look more modern
than they do then they look like they fit into
the setting they've been put in.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Gotcha, So like things like hair and makeup and the
cinematography and all.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
That accent and affectations.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, yeah, well I remember. I want to say when
we first started seeing trailers for season one that this
was one of those things that you and I both
felt were like, everyone looks so clean, and that seems
weird in a world where you would you would expect
a bit more dust and dirt.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, and it's not. Everybody so like the I don't
remember her. The actress's name. Rosamond Pike plays Moraine Demrid.
She's like one of the main sorcerers in Wheel of Time,
which is I don't know what they're called weavers. Anyhow,
she does a phenomenal job. So the actors do a

(47:08):
great job. There are some actors who I absolutely adore
their performances. But the other problem, which was to the
other problem, there are so many characters and so many
plot lines, and they jump around so much that unless
you're familiar with the property, it's a little hard to follow.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
It's kind of like a Game of Thrones where you
really need those appenda seas in the back to keep
everybody straight.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yes, yes, so much so that like my friends shared
the Wheel of Time trailer for season three on our
watch party chat because we watched the first two seasons
in watch party and my husband was like, oh, I
guess we have to watch the first two seasons so
we can watch this third one. And I'm like, no, no, Tony,
here you go. Season one was blood Knife. Season two

(47:54):
was a creepy wizard bondage army, and that's it. There's
more than happens.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
But I was gonna say if that's all you need
to just summarize the entire series, that that doesn't speak
very highly on the show.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
There's a whole lot more. Those were the two things
that seem to interest the watch party the most. And
I have friends who enjoyed the book, so certainly some
of my watch party enjoys it a lot more. And
I know people who like the Wheel of Time series
tend to like it more because they can follow what's
going on. But the costume design is phenomenal though I
will say that I love the costume design.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
That's cool. Well, moving on and getting back to Anthony
Mackie again. We got a teaser for season two of
Twisted Metal. I actually watched the first season of Twisted Metal?
Did you watch any of that areal?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I didn't because I didn't have Peacock at the time.
How was it?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean, it's entertaining. It's I wouldn't call it great.
I would say it's entertaining, it's you know, it does
a lot with its material, considering that it's drawing from
a video game that was not known for its storytelling.
The video game series is all about driving vehicles and

(49:08):
blasting other vehicles, typically in like a demolition derby kind
of arena. In the footage we get for season two,
it shows that there's going to be a tournament. There's
also a quick glimpse at one of the characters. I
can't I don't even know the.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Character's name, but like, is it Calypso.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Is Calypso the one that has their arms shoved into
giant wheels?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
No? No, no, okay.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
So one of the the thing about Twisted Metal is
everybody has like a weird vehicle, the big one that
everyone remembers a sweet tooth. He drives an ice cream truck.
He's a clown with his head on fire and he's
insane and he was played physically by Samoa Joe the
wrestler but voiced by Will Arnett in the first season.

(50:01):
He's back. But there's another character who is like a
dude whose arms serve as the axle for a vehicle.
So he's got like his arms are stretched out to
either side and at the end of each fist is
a wheel and he zooms around the arena like that.
They have a shot of someone putting their hand into

(50:26):
the hub of a wheel at the very end of
the trailer. So I wish i'd remember the name of
that character. I've played the Twisted Metal games, but I
couldn't name anyone beside Sweet Tooth.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I haven't played the games. My brain blocked that part
of the trailer out. Okay, I was excited. Calypso is
the bad guy they introduced, who's being played by Anthony Kerrigan,
who was the he was in Barry. He's gonna be

(50:58):
playing Morpho in Superman. It's a great actor.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, yeah, very entertaining actor. So I mean, like I said,
Twisted Metal Season one was, like I said, it is entertaining.
I didn't think it was great. There are other people
who are at Stephanie Beatrice's in it too. She's fantastic.
I love her. So like, it's fun to watch, but

(51:26):
it's nothing. It's nothing special. But again, considering that it's
pulled from a video game that's not known for its story,
that itself is a bit of an achievement.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Is it too gory for me?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Oh no, well, I mean it's gory, but it doesn't
come across as realistic to me at all. Okay, Like,
I guess if Gore just full stop bothers you, even
if it's unrealistic gore. Then, yes, it's probably too gory
for you, at least in certain parts, But most of
the time, it's just like, like I think of it

(52:01):
as like Tarantino level.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Gotcha, got you? I can handle most of Tarantina. I
can handle most of him.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Next up, we got a trailer for the final season
I believe of Handmaid's Tale, certainly season six. I don't
know if I think that's the final season. I think
that was what was announced. So I haven't been following
this series. I read the original novel that the series
is based off of. It's a phenomenal novel. It's harrowing,

(52:35):
you know. Obviously, it's set in like a dystopian world that,
depending upon the state of affairs at any given time,
feels like it's not that far off from our own one.
But yeah, this one's kind of interesting because it seems
to indicate that the Handmaidens are forming their own kind

(52:58):
of army to oppose the patriarchal power structure that dominates
the landscape of the setting.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, I also haven't watched it. It's honestly been one
of those ones that's been on my list to watch,
but I have to be in a really good mood
to watch something that dark.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, no, it's like I read it for AP English.
When I was in high school, we actually had a
few dystopian novels that we had to read that year
and that was one of them. Was like, so is
ap English is the lesson to learn just that the
future is going to be awful? And then hey, look
at what happened.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Anyway, We're not going off that topic. So in middle
school I was in aplang English Literature, Language Arts whatever
it was, and yeah, the books that we had to
read and we got different books from everybody else, So
I've not read a lot of the classics that are bleak,

(54:04):
but we had to read like The Effect of Gamma
rays on Man in the mu Mayorgolds, and Zee for
Zachariah and is He Willy Nilly, which was the most
uplifting and it's about a woman who it's about a
girl who loses her legs in a car crash because
she was in a car with the drunk driver and
that was the most uplifting one. Wow, it kind of
showed her life past it. So we read it. We

(54:25):
also read I guess like call the Wilder White Fang.
I don't remember which one, but yeah, the books that
they pick out for impressionable teenagers in their middle school
and high school years are so depressing and kids got
enough problems already.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, I want to say for us, it was like, well,
I know, I read nineteen eighty four and Brave New
World in high school. I don't remember if that was
part of the senior class or not, but both of
those kind of fall into that dystopian, you know, authoritarian world.
We also read Fairy Night four fifty one. That was
like junior year though, But anyway, Yeah, there were a

(55:03):
ton of books that we read that all were kind
of about authoritarian dystopias and where your rights are restricted
to the nth degree, particularly if you're a woman.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, it was a real fun time.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I'm not saying you shouldn't read those books. I think
it's important. I think they have many of them have
good lessons to learn, but just some balance.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, no, balance would have been nice. I agree. I
think all the books we read are great books, Like
all the books I mentioned are great books. There were
books we read that I don't think are great, but
those are personal bias, Like I will never in my
life ever say that I enjoy Testa The Turbovils, but
but that's not to say it's a bad book. It

(55:50):
just means that, like I was, like, I was so
grouchy having to read that. Anyway, moving on from ab English,
we also got a trailer for a new trailer for
Until Dawn.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
And another literary classic, yeah, video game classic.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
It continues to completely thumb its nose at the source
material in that it doesn't really seem to be connected
to the video game very much at all. It feels
more like what if we put Groundhog Day with Cabin
in the Woods it does.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
It was an interesting trailer because a lot of it
is played in reverse. What I will say though, despite
the fact that it thumbs its nose at the video game,
one of the friends that I saw Hard Eyes with
hadn't seen that this was coming out, and before they
said what the trailer was. When the trailer came up
before Hard Eyes, they were able to identify it as

(56:53):
untilled on. So it's not so similar that it's unrecognizable.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Okay, well, I mean so both the video game and
the film have Peter, not a Scars guard Storm are
in it, so that's something.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
That's in reference to this is an edit because Jonathan said,
and then I was like, no, it's not I know
the actor, and then I couldn't remember his name.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And then we had to stop and do a whole
like google thing. So we just cut all that stuff out,
but then we tell you about it, so you get
the benefit of knowing that it happened anyway that they
also do have. They also do say like, you know,
we have to live until Dawn or something like that,
where that the words are in there. I I don't know.

(57:44):
If I had gone into this without knowing that there
was going to be an Until Dawn movie and I
saw this playing out, I would be like, what is
this and then seeing the title, I'd be like, wait, no, no,
it's not. But I mean that's not to say that
it looks bad. I actually think it looks kind of
clever and kind of interesting. I just wish it wasn't

(58:05):
called Until Dawn because it doesn't feel to me like
it's an actual adaptation of the video game, so I
wish it were something else. Also, like the video game,
this movie and the video game have like fundamentally diametrically
opposing premises because Until Dawn. The premise is you make

(58:28):
a choice, and that choice has consequences, and those consequences
are going to shape the rest of the future, and
every time you make a choice, you're adding on to that,
so that the ending you come to is the culmination
of all the choices you've made. This movie is well,
that didn't work, but don't worry. The day resets at

(58:48):
the end of the day and we have to relive
it again and then we can do all new things.
So it's like it's literally the opposite of what the
game was about.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
To be fair, the trailer I saw on the theater
was different than the new trailer out for Until Dawn,
So it started with Peter Stormyer. So maybe that's why
my friend was able to recognize it more easily.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, okay, so Scars Guard Stormare makes it a little different.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I mean I would watch a battle between the two, Yeah,
but still in Scarsguarden Peter storm Ayer, because like you
have to make sure they're evenly matched.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Well, would you watch a battle between Christopher Lambert and
a werewolf?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
I would? It is immute. Well, are you sure christ
Christopher Limbert is not a were wolf? Because it makes
sense that if he were a Highlander, he would become
a werewolf.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
He might be. He's got nasty scars on his chest
where clearly he had a run in with a werewolf
at some point. It may be that he's now Also
also he references them as like genetic mutations. It's a
very interesting take on the were So we're talking about
a movie called Shadow of the Wolf.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Yes, which, full disclosure, is a mo from twenty eighteen,
but this year it's gotten a resurgence because they've given
it an English dub.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, it's an Italian movie and so it's just now
being promoted because it's going to get at least some
limited playtime. I think maybe it's going straight to streaming
here in March. But yeah, you'll be able to watch
it with an English dub, and Christopher Lambert's in it,
as Ariel mentioned, was in Highlander, as well as lots

(01:00:29):
of other stuff. And yeah, it's a European take on
your typical werewolf movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It's like Werewolf MCIs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I can't say that it compels
me to want to watch it. I didn't think it
looked bad. I just didn't see anything that made me
want to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I mean, I like werewolf movies sometimes, and I like
procedural shows sometimes, so I'm not against it. Sadly, the
trailer didn't give us Christopher Lambert's iconic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Laugh from from uh from Mortal Kombat when he was raided.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah. So it's one of my favorite things to do
is to send Tommy Wiseau Christopher Lambert laughs to people
because they're remarkably similar.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Oh wow, So yeah, we should have had him playing
Tommy Wizzou when they did the film instead of was
it James Franco.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
The Disaster Artist? Yeah, I mean I I would. The
Disaster Artist was a very well done movie. It was
very good. I actually own it. But that's another that's
another pair of i'd see Tommy was Zo against Christopher Lambert.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah. Uh. We also have a trailer for a very
uh uh kind of standard action thriller horror movie called Borderline.
Nothing special to say about that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
It's I don't know, it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
How is it weird? Ariel, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
You wanted me to pick up something I didn't pick
up on. It's about this guy who wants to marry
a woman, but he's also psychotic, so He also.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Like, it feels like it's a weird movie where a
stalker has managed to get access to a celebrity in
her home, but it's being played it's kind of being
played as like a dark comedy, a dark comedy, but
also a psychological thriller, right, Like think of something where

(01:02:44):
you've got like the obsessed man stalking after a woman
that he that he's fixated upon, but they've also made
it kind of a dark comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I think that's what makes it weird for me. Is
like Tonally, I couldn't you know, we all watch things
and go, oh, this is this genre. I couldn't quite
figure out where my emotions were sitting Tonally as I
watched the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah, no, it's it's a little unusual. Tomorrow Weaving. It's
playing the female lead, the character who is the center
of obsession. Ray Nicholson's playing the obsessed stalker who's managed
to get some compatriots together to help him in his

(01:03:32):
quest to apparently force her to marry him. Yeah, it's.
I watched this trailer and I was like, I don't
I don't have a full grasp on exactly what this is.
Either it's coming out on March fourteenth, and it's coming
out both in theaters and on digital platforms at the

(01:03:53):
same time. So I think it looks interesting enough where
I kind of want to see it so that I
want to see how it plays out and what the
tone is all the way through, whether or not they
manage to keep that tone consistent, because if they can,
I think that's amazing. If it ends up being one
of those things where it's just wildly swinging from groller

(01:04:16):
to comedy, then I don't really I don't find that
as compelling.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
It's a legit scary attitude that's you know, if it
falls into that category for me, of like, monster movies
are easier to watch because you're not going to I'm
sorry for anybody who believes otherwise, you're not going to
run into a werewolf or you know, a vampire that
can turn into a bat. In real life, you can
run into these people with these horrible attitudes and views

(01:04:43):
on life in real life. So that gives it like
this deep rooted, unsettlingness. Yeah, but also it does look
interesting and well made.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, it also is like how do you handle that
kind of story material in a way where you're not
you're not coming across as dismissing anyone who's actually been
through a real experience of someone being obsessed with them
or stalking them. Yeah, right, because like, obviously this is
a movie, it's heightened reality. There's a lot of intentional

(01:05:16):
comedy injected into this film. But how do you do
it in such a way where you're not just saying, like, see,
everyone's just making a big deal out of nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I mean I didn't I've I've
only had like brief experiences with people who are stalker esque.
I had somebody in middle school who would wait outside
my classroom door and like hound me and then spread
rumors about me, and that was un fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
You had that guy at the Renaissance Festival, the bald
guy who would always show up at your car and
expect you to give him a ride home.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Oh no, that was prearranged stockeriness.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Meet me at my car and I'll give you a
ride home.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, and thankfully the school one, my teachers were very
they couldn't stop the rumors. The guy started telling people
that we had been having like adult kind of relations
and that was uncool in sixth or in seventh grade,
but like I would have a physical negative reaction to him.
He would imagine upsetting to me. But you know, again,

(01:06:25):
thankfully I had teachers in my corner and I never
felt in a very unsafe place. However, I used to
respond to a lot of people on Facebook, like I
get messages, and a lot of them started off very
just just nice, you know, and I was trying to
network and a lot of them ended up being really
creepy guys. And usually I'm like, I'm not interested, leave

(01:06:47):
me alone, and then I'd block them. There was one
guy this was like a week or two before Dragon Con.
I was performing at it, and I was promoting the
show so people who were could access my page knew
where I was going to be, and he was like
I will make you my wife. You just wait and

(01:07:08):
you see and stuff like that. Wow, And then I
had to go and like so I was like, you
need to stop this, leave me alone, And I took
the idea off of Facebook and case I needed it,
and I blocked him. But then like having to go
to dragon Con a week later, that is full of
people Like normally when you perform with Artsy, you volunteer,

(01:07:28):
you hand out bookmarks, so you were at the table
or something like that in that year I had to,
and thankfully they're very understanding. I'd be like, I'm coming
to do the show, and then I am leaving because
I I Am not comfortable putting myself in a situation
with all of these people right now. Because yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
So like in any film that's gonna be taking any
sourt of subject matter like that and treating it as
a thriller comedy, you're you're hopeful that they do it
in such a way where you know, yes, it can
be entertaining, but it's not it's not essentially equating all
those situations as being a big nothing burger kind of thing. Yeah,

(01:08:07):
and with a title like borderline, I'm guessing that that's
referencing like almost like borderline personality disorder. Yeah, so we'll
have to see. Uh. Of course that also falls into
that oother trope of people who are struggling with mental
health are the bad guys, right, So there's a lot
of tropes that you got to be super cognizant of

(01:08:31):
when you're writing a story.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I feel like borderline could also be not necessarily borderline
personality disorder, but like those people who are like, well,
they're borderline bad but they do just enough.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Good, right, or or they're they're borderline normal but there's
something just a little off about them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I'm curious about it because, like I like samorrow weavings work,
so i'm i'm. I think a lot of the film
is going to be dependent upon her performance and how
her character is shown reacting to this stuff. I think
that's gonna determine a lot of it, because at least
in the trailer, she seems like she's mostly annoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll see. I'm kind of interested
in this one. We're gonna move on to the next
trailer because I need to start it off by saying
that the trailer for the next film, I think it
is although it's a Hulu property. If you say that

(01:09:34):
your top five favorite movies are Ryan Stone, The Apple Repo,
The Genetic Opera, Mad Max, and Hunger Games, you are
in luck.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I think also Six String Samurai would maybe, yeah, you
would fit in there. Six String Samurai would.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Be there, and Lulan Rouge. Seven favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
It's a movie called Odessa. It is sad than the
dystopic like post apocalyptic kind of future. The protagonist appears
to be a musician who believes in the power of
music and bringing light into the darkness. The visuals are

(01:10:15):
pretty out there, like this trailer. When I watched it,
I was thinking, I don't I don't really fully understand
what this movie is, but I think that that's the point,
and I kind of dig it like it's taking some
really big swings.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Yeah, for sure. And it stars Sadie Sink. She she
plays I'm guessing Odessa, Yes, she plays Odessa. Sadie Sink
you would recognize as Max from Stranger Things. She's a
great actress. It also has Regina Hall and other people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I like it because it starts off with kind of
like a folksy Devil went down to Georgia vibe, and
then it turns into The Apple, which is a really
bad old musical movie. I'm not saying it's gonna be bad,
but it's got the vibe of like small town person
becomes famous pop star.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
But in a really weird world. Like Yes, another one
I would I would cite would be Sargent Pepper's Lonely
Hearts Club Band, the movie that the Begie's made that
was inspired by and I mean used the album from
the Beatles for all the music.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Don't know if I ever watched that one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Oh my gosh, Steve Martin is in it. He plays
Maxwell from Maxwell silver Hammer. George Burns is in it. Yeah, wow,
Sergeant we gotta have we need to have a bad
movie night and we need to watch Sergeant Peppers. It is.
It is not a good movie. Aerosmith plays an evil

(01:11:49):
band that does come together. Yeah, it's it's crazy. It's
a crazy film. Not good. But I remember watching it
as a kid in thinking like this is a bonkers movie.
And Odessa kind of gives me that same sort of
bonker's energy. Again, not the quality. I'm not saying anything

(01:12:10):
about the quality, just that it's so different from everything else,
and to me, that's what's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Yeah. Who was another really bad musical that had like
a Geene Simmons was like the bad guy, and I
want to say it was like Sylvester Stallone was a
good guy. I don't know, it was really.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Weird Sylvester salone in a musical.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
I don't I don't know, I don't remember it is,
but everything I'm looking up is like Rocky the musical.
That's not what I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Who did you say was the bad guy?

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Maybe like Gene Simmons.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Geene Simmons so like, uh so the front man for Kiss?

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
I don't know, I don't know. Maybe it had John Stamos.
It was really weird cast.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Oh no, the John Stamos one. Yeah, I know what
you're talking about. John Stamuels plays a guy who's a
student and a spy, and Gene Simmons is the head
of like this cult like gang.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
So it wasn't Stallone, it was it was Staymos. I
was just getting my dark head haired s names mixed up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
The only reason I know that is because Red Letter Media,
whom I've mentioned many times on this podcast, did a
best of the Worst where that was one of the
movies they watched.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
I've watched it. It is not good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Yeah, I don't. Again, I don't want people to sit
there and think that we're saying Odessa is going to
be a bad movie. It's just it's just a very
unusual approach, and to me, that's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yeah. Yeah, Like the trailer just visually reminded me of
a bunch of things. As I was going through it,
so I'll be interested to see how they tie it
all together.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
And last, but not least, we also got a teaser,
not for a movie, not for a TV show, but
for a section of a theme park.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yes, Dark Universe at Epic Universal Universal.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Epic Universal Epic Universe, I think is what they call it. Yeah,
so that's this is the new park that Universal Studios
is opening the spring in Orlando, Florida. Uh. And one
of the many lands of that of that park is
dedicated to the classic, the real classic universal horror movie monsters.

(01:14:33):
Not those classics quote unquote that they had on Dropout TV,
and not all of the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Man with an Ape Ape with a Man brain.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Yeah, all that stuff was not really classic. Those were
Those were just movies that happened to have been produced
by universities.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Yeah. Uh. The trailer honestly made it look less impressive
than I'm picturing it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Being, well, because a lot of it is, you know,
obviously a guy in a a CG. You know, background
kind of thing. So the gimmick is that you've got
these two people who are walking off from like a
fast food restaurant, and this portal appears and it's the
it's the gate that you would pass through at Epic

(01:15:20):
Universe in order to go into the Dark Universe section
of the park. And the guy in this this these
two friends, there's a man and a woman. The man
walks through while the woman's like, we shouldn't go into that.
And then you see him like apparently being on rights
and going past the Wolfman and waving at Frankenstein's monster,

(01:15:42):
and Dracula turns into something bats or blood or something
or maybe bloody bats, who knows. And then he comes
back out and tells her you got to come through this,
and they they both walk through the portal. I think that, yeah,
it didn't do much for me because but part of

(01:16:04):
it is that we've been following the development of this
park and so like seeing the stuff like the miniatures,
the models and stuff for the parks and the artists
renditions and everything that to me was way more effective
in getting me excited about this than the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Spot was same talking about the advanced technology behind the animatronics,
which in the trailer they show a little bit of
and I can't tell if they're the actual animatronics or not.
It didn't look as good in the trailer unfortunate. What
has also been getting me excited. I know you're not
on social media to see this, but maybe I'll find

(01:16:40):
some links and share it is they've been, like there
have been people who been like driving past at the
Universe because it's a lot of it is built, and
like taking video from outside of like them running the
tests because you can see some of it, and like
or I think little legal leaks about, like oh, here's

(01:17:01):
this little dragon that you can meet or whatever in
the how to Train Your Dragon section. Yeah, the in
Celestial Park, I think it's called the Dueling rollercoaster, lit
up at night running is so pretty. It looks like
just two shooting stars. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
At least one of the hotels that's in the Epic
Universe area is open already, and so influencers have stayed,
not at the main hotel, which has its own entrance
into the park, but one of the secondary hotels. They've
stayed there, and some of that hotel looks out over

(01:17:37):
Epic Universe, and again it's not the same as the
view you would get at staying at their you know,
the premiere hotel that's at one end of the park.
But I've seen some of that already where there were
people taking like long range photos of the park and
there wasn't any of the test stuff going on at

(01:17:59):
that time. So I'm sure I'll have to check out
what it looks like, because you know, I definitely would
love to see the Dark Universe stuff in particular, like
I'm sure I would enjoy the How To Train Your
Dragon and the Super Mario World sections too. It's too
bad that they were never able to figure out a
fourth section.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Yeah, that they could do well. Let me, Celestial Park
has rides.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Celestial Park, Yeah, they're supposed to be five, but really
they only figured out four.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Four Yeah, yeah, shame, but I mean four is still
a lot of park to go to, it is. I
just hope that they don't price it like Disney is
pricing things lately, so it's just unattainable.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah, no, totally. I feel the same way. Like just
finding out that the market can bear these crazy prices,
especially if you want to do things like you know,
bypass lines or whatever, is different from saying like, oh,

(01:19:04):
let's do that thing, right, Like, I still get better
because I think back it wasn't that long ago where
Disney offered the fast Pass stuff for free, right, you
just had to remember, you just had to know how
to use it. But if you knew how to use it,
you could do it for free. And of course now
all of that's behind a paywall, with some of it
behind an even bigger paywall, and if you want to

(01:19:27):
go really bonkers, you can drop you know, like five
hundred dollars a person I liked.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I enjoy going to Disney. I know how to make
it magical when I'm there. Usually I can't imagine spending
that much on it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah, I mean like it had already reached a point
where going to a Disney park is a real extravagance.
I mean it's always been kind of an extravagance, but
it's gotten to a point where it's out of the
reach of a lot of people, or if they're able to,
they're maybe able to go once every like ten years
or something, because it's so expensive. And it just feels

(01:20:08):
like the choices they've made have brought it closer and
closer to Oh, this is a park for rich people,
and if you're not a rich person, you're not really
gonna get the most out of this. Like you might
be able to afford to go, but you're not going
to be able to afford to actually enjoy yourself because
all the stuff that makes it a fun time costs extra.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, I mean I went. You know, I know you
go more often than I, but I went last year
and I was just upset because the whole reason I
decided to go was because I could get tickets that
were like the price I used to go at when
I could afford it on my single person salary that
was not a lot, but I could. It was a
goal that was save uppable too. And I bought the

(01:20:53):
tickets and then something happened where we absolutely could not go.
So we changed the date and every time we had
to change the date twice, and every time we did
it bumped the price up and I had to pay
the difference. And I'm like, once you buy the tickets
to the park, Disney used to be about magical experiences,
they should honor that ticket within a like within a year.

(01:21:16):
I understand if like you bought a ticket five years
ago and you couldn't go unless it was like extranuating circumstances,
that maybe they would work with you because it's such
a magical story to share.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I mean, it's I get it to a point, because
otherwise I could see people abusing the system. Where like, oh,
I bought a ticket to go in you know, mid September,
which is, you know, a fairly relatively light time because
kids are getting back into school and stuff and all that,
so there's not as big of a crowd. But I

(01:21:50):
can't go. So I want to have this bumped to
the week between Christmas and New Year's which is the
busiest time of year. I get why that would be
an issue, right, Yeah, And Disney, in order to deal
with crowds, or at least this is what they say
in or to deal with crowds, they price the more
popular parts of the year higher, and so the slower

(01:22:12):
parts of the year are priced lower. So it gives
an incentive for you to go to one of the
lower price parts of the year and a disincentive to
go to one of the higher ones. But as you
say that then means that if you bought tickets and
something comes up and you need to change it, then
it really does stink that you've saved up with this

(01:22:34):
one date in mind, and through no fault of your own,
you have to change your date. But you're gonna have
to pay extra in order to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Yeah. Yeah, and like it was hard because it overdoubled
the price of my tickets to go. Yeah, and that
was frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
That's hard. I mean that's like for a lot of people,
that would just mean they wouldn't have been able to
afford to go, and they would be out the money
of the initial ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Yeah, because you don't get a refund. And that's the thing.
I could get a refund. I would understand that would like, Okay,
you can't move your ticket to from mid September to
the week between Thanksgiving and Christmas? Can I get a
refund because I wasn't able to go?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Like it's so, you know, I'm going to Disneyland this
this next week on Monday and Tuesday. I'll be at
Disney Lane, California. Don't stalk me, but oh man, but
I'm going to be there with my partner and our niece.
And I decided I was going to buy us the

(01:23:32):
multi lane passes, which is the what Fast Pass used
to be, right, it's that thing. It's for their basic rides.
It doesn't it doesn't even apply to their top not rides.
Those you have to buy a single pass access to
so Rise of the Resistance and Radiator Springs are the
two rides where you have to buy an extra pass
if you want to buy mess the normal line.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Not any of the things on Marvel Campus.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
No, No, Guardians of the Galaxies actually on their normal
multipass lane. So I purchased it. Now I'm buying multipass
for two days for three people, so six multipasses total.
Keep in mind, I've already bought the tickets to go

(01:24:18):
to Disneyland, but just that add on of the multi
lane passes added two hundred and fifty dollars. Well, that's
before you take into account things like how are we
getting from La to Anaheim. It's before you factor into
things like the hotel stay and all that kind of stuff.

(01:24:40):
Like it just again like we can afford to do it,
so we're doing it. But it's frustrating because there's so
many people who would love to be able to have
that experience who are never going to be able to
because it's just it's prohibitively expensive, to the point where
I'm like considering easing off on the whole Disney stuff

(01:25:01):
in the hopes that perhaps there will be an adjustment
to kind of react to how things have gone in
a different way, maybe bring those prices down so that
more people can actually experience it. We could have an
entire podcast talking about the challenges around the whole park system.

(01:25:26):
But I think the important thing for us to remember
is that we both really want to see what the
Dark Universe turns out to be. Yeah, because it looks
like it could be a really fun themed area, particularly
at night, Like that's where that place is going to
really take off, right, Yeah, and I really want to

(01:25:47):
experience that. And but that's despite the trailer we saw,
not because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. But that brings us to the
end of our articles. So speaking of you know, could
have whole conversations if people want to reach out to
us and you know, say hey, I'd rather you stop
talking about all these trailers that we're having to imagine
and have like a real conversation, or to tell us
they like us talking to trailers or talking to trailers,

(01:26:15):
anything like that, any sort of feedback. How do they
reach out?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
So you're going to go backpacking over in the UK,
and as you're walking down country lanes with hopefully a
good friend by your side, you're going to decide that
you want to cut across some land as opposed to
just following the trail around, because you can see the
trail is long and winding, it's going to go way
out of your way. It's going to take you much

(01:26:40):
further than if you just cut across these moors that
are between you and where you want to go. And like,
you're just looking forward to getting into town, going to
a pub, being able to unwind at the end of
the day. So you start going across the moors and
then you hear it. You hear this howling noise, and
you see these just these enormous dogs, like they're almost

(01:27:00):
like wolves, just bearing down on you. You start running
and you trip, and as you trip, you feel something
tearing into the back of your leg, and sure enough,
it's me. I'm there. I'm just growling like crazy. I'm
not a wolf or anything. It's just me. You're like, hey,
what's up? And I'm sorry. Sorry, I was talking to
a trailer back there, and that just plumb done lost

(01:27:23):
my mind. I feel really badly. Let me go get
you a drink at the pub. We'll go to the pub,
I'll buy you a drink, and then you can ask
me your question.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Yeah. If that's too scary for you, you could reach out
to us on social media on Facebook and threads and Instagram,
where Largener Drunk Collider on Blue Sky where LLC podcast.
You can check our show notes though I do need
to catch up on that hopefully this weekend at www
dot largener Drunk Collider dot com, or if you want
to send us like a long form email, you can

(01:27:52):
do that at Larger drum pot at gmail dot com.
I'm sorry they're not all the same, but that's what
was available. You can also get an invite to our
discord on large nerdroidal Large Neudron Collider dot com. Thank
you for listening and being a part of our geeky family.

(01:28:12):
We love chatting with you and hearing the things you're
excited about. Tell your friends we'd love to hear what
they're excited about too, And until next time, I am
Ariel a wu Caston.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
And I am Jonathan bad Moon Rising Strickland. I'm going
to get a copyright strike. The Large Nerdron Collider was
created by Aeriel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again Curse That by Jonathan Strickland music by Kevin

(01:28:50):
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