Luc Besson's Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Largener Drunk Glider podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel cast In and with me is always is
like super incredible.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Jonathan Strickland, I'm back in the New York Groove.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Are you in New York? It looks like your regular office.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Jonathan, No, I'm not. No, I'm just in the New
York Groove. I'm not in New York. I'm just in
the New York Groove. Me and Ace Freeley, we are
in the New York Group.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The reason I did that is because I was actually
listening to this. I forget how much I like certain
songs until they surface into a trailer, and then I
hear it in the trailer and I'm like, oh my god,
that is a great song. And I haven't listened to
it forever. And I'm not a huge Ace Freely fan.
For those who don't know who's member of Kiss, Yeah,

(01:03):
I wasn't a big I didn't follow his solo career
or anything, but I do like back in the New
York Groove. It's got It's got like an old school
rock and roll guitar riff to it, like you think
of those ones that go Doom to Doom to Doom
to Doom Doom, something like that. It's similar to that, right,
It's got like that kind of rhythm to it. And

(01:23):
it's featured in a trailer for Dexter Resurrection, which we
will talk about briefly later on in the show. And
that just means it's now living rent free on replay
in my head.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I uh that it did not. It did not. I mean,
I'm gonna blame sleep deprivation that none of the songs
really stuck in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's true for those of y'all at home who are wondering,
why why so sleepy Aeriel? She had to drive halfway
up the Eastern Seaboard because she had go and be
famous for a living and then have to drive back down.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, okay, I appreciate you being my hype man and
exaggerating greatly. I first of all, I chose to drive
halfway up the Eastern seaboard. Abbington, Virginia, by the way,
has some very very cute parts to it. Plus it's
got Pal's Quick Service, which is about the only place

(02:25):
you can get a fast food chipped ham sandwich, so
delightful and famous is a very strong word. I got
to be a part of a really cool project with
some really sweet, nice people. It was a very positive,
a very positive experience. And if when the project comes
out people can watch it, I'll let all our listeners know.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh yeah, and I understand, I understand. Someone you know
also got to be a part of that project.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I was just about to get there, yeah, right before
I was about the night before I was going to
drive up to do it, I got a call from
production saying, hey, can your reader be be a part
of it? To play the part that he read? And
my reader was Jonathan, because Jonathan is awesome and volunteers
so much of his time to help me with auditions,

(03:16):
and so Jonathan got to be a part of it too.
Although virtually so.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, I was because literally it was a character who's
talking to Ariel's character over the phone. So I literally
phoned in my performance, which is about all I'm capable
of doing. So it's fine, get great. I do want
to say, though you are very kind to say that
I take a lot of time to help. I just
want to say I generally believe that my friend's success

(03:47):
is something that is worthwhile in the world, and I
want to see it happen. And if I can help
contribute to that in any small way, I definitely want
to because my own success is not something that just
comes solely from my own effort. Right. I recognize that
I got to where I am because of countless people

(04:09):
either mentoring me or giving me support or you know,
promoting me in some way, and I always want to
make sure that I pay that forward too, because that's
the world I want to live in. So if nothing
else from this episode take home, the thought of lifting
up your friends is great and should If you can

(04:32):
do it, then certainly do it. Obviously, there are going
to be times in your life where that's not going
to be a possibility. That does not make you a
bad person. It just means that that maybe that's the
time where it's for your friends to lift you up.
And that's okay, yep.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
But I mean this is why, you know, at the beginning,
I always say that Jonathan is awesome or incredible because
I live by a similar a similar creed. You know,
I've always got your back, but it is still a
choice like you don't have.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
To do it. Sure, yeah, I don't. Well, part of
me is like I can't imagine a world where I
say no because I love my friends very dearly and
I want to see them succeed. But also on a
if you're going from like the more self centered way,
I think I would feel incredibly guilty if I said no.
So like it's I don't want to make it seem

(05:21):
like I'm purely altruistic, right, because that's everyone's complicated. And
I know you're not my therapist, but I just want
to say that I am aware of the different levels.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, you've you've already had to act as my
therapist this week because I had to cancel my therapy
session to go do the gig.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean it was just for y'all at home. It
was just it was just normal like anxiety stuff. There's
nothing bad, yep.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But you know, I don't mind. I mean, I am
not qualified to act as your therapist, but I'm happy
to listen.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And yeah, which I'm always thankful for. But that leads
me to something that's completely unrelated, but leads me there
because it's on my notes. Hah, don't And if I
don't do it, my brain will will revolt against me,
which is I need to ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
This week's question is one that I feel like I've
probably asked before in like a much older episode of
LLENC but answers can change. And the question is what
geeky world would you like to experience as a theme park?
And this obviously probably obviously has been inspired largely by
Epic Universe recently opening down in Orlando, Florida. I'll be

(06:43):
going to check that out in early September.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I am so envious, Jonathan, so freaking envious. So first
of all, this is a great question, but I am
so perturbed about it because I recently watched it and said,
the movie is okay, but this would make a fantastic
theme park and I want to ride this ride. And

(07:07):
for the life of me, I can't remember what it was.
You know how it is like what someone's like, what's
their name? And as soon as he ask, it goes
out of your brain.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh, you're you're speaking my daily existence.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, so that's where I'm at. So I'm going to
give like a a really cheap answer, and then when
the answer comes back to me, I will post it
in discorder on social or somewhere.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Perhaps she'll randomly shout out forty five minutes into this episode.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
That could that. You know, it's a fun adventure, right,
So I'm going to say right now that Dark Universe
and Epic Universe is probably that place, because.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So you have one that actually exists, but you you're
just looking forward to the opportunity to go and visit it.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, I would I would say
that I would have. I would have been like, this
would make a great theme park, and then they made it.
But like I said, that's a cheap answer because I
can't remember my real answer. It's hard because there are
a lot of things, like, you know, MGM Studios, Back

(08:16):
when Hollywood Studios was still MGM Studios, they used to
have a Honey I shrunk the Kid's Playground, and I
think if they did, it's not there anymore. But I
think if they did something similar but with like the
world of Hook, not Peter Pan, And I don't know
if they can't because I don't know if Disney Owen's
Hook at this point, that would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, so you're talking about the Robin Williams, Dustin Hawk.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, movie, Yeah, banger rang Rufio, Oh that jazz. You're
just a meat old man who needs a mommy.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
But yes, I've just had an apostrophe. I think you
mean an epiphany.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I love First of all, I love that movie because
everybody knows I'm a I'm a huge Peter Pan fan.
But I thought Hook was delightfully fun. But I do
think like that would be just a fun little world
to step into.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Totally. I think that would be like that version of
Neverland would be pretty cool. Like, I am not a
big fan of the film Hook. I remember seeing it
in the theater when it came out. I'm not a
huge fan of that movie, but there are moments of
that movie that are among some of my favorite film

(09:28):
moments of all time. It's just that as a whole,
I don't like the film, but I like moments in
the film a lot, like the introduction of Hook. I
think is one of the greatest villain introductions in film,
of everyone channing his name and sme, you know, kind
of being smarmy up to him, and Hook being totally

(09:50):
dismissive of his crew. I'm like, this is this is
like if you love to play bad guys, this is
the scene you want to do. But for myself. Because
I wrote down my thoughts of what, you know, kind
of geeky world I would like to experience as a
theme park, I wanted to be fairly specific, so I

(10:13):
put Dungeons and Dragons, but specifically dragon Lance. I think
a dragon Lance theme park where like some rides be
things like writing on the back of a dragon for example,
that stuff could be really cool. Out of all the
Dungeons and Dragons settings, dragon Lance, I think is the
one that would be the most fun to immerse yourself in.

(10:37):
It's not my favorite D and D setting, but it
is the one that I think I would want to
visit the most. Or maybe gray Hawk, and specifically the
more cartoonish absurd elements of grey Hawk, because some of
the stuff that was written for gray Hawk absolutely is

(10:58):
cartoony and silly, and that appeals to me. Some of
the Greyhawk adventures are very grim and dark, but Forgotten
Realms was far more grounded in the sense of drama.
Greyhawk was a lot weirder so, but Dragon Lances is
my answer.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
If I were to pick a D and D world,
I mean it kind of goes back to dark universe.
I would pick raven loft.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Okay, yeah, so you're going back to the the the
vampire based D and D world.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Vampire Werewolf, Yeah, all of that. It wasn't Argyle that
I thought would make it good. It wasn't our Gyle,
it wasn't Bullet Train anyhow. But yeah, no, because again,
you can play raven Lofton it can be incredibly dark,
or you can play raven Lofton it can be fun
adventure fairy tale, which you know fairy tales are also

(11:50):
kind of dark. But my experience with raven Lofton it
was just my I guess my DM was that it
was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, now that we have gotten through the answers to
the question, let's talk about some of the stuff we've
watched since the last time we recorded. So not Ariel. Obviously,
you spend a lot of time on the road, so
you weren't able to I hope you weren't watching things
while driving on the way to and from Virginia.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I did listen to I'm listening to the final Xandria campaign.
I guess season three of Critical Role when I drive,
But as much as I love it, especially when they
get into like the battle episodes, it's not always great content,
so I actually ended up switching between that. I listened

(12:40):
to a little bit of saw Bones on my.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Way up to Rainia tour of Misguided Medicine.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I figured that's always fun. It's just well, it's
ninety five percent of the time it's fun, and when
it's not fun, it's very informative.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it's important, but it's also often either infuriating or
depressing or both.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah. I mean there's a lot that's just funny when
they talk about like plenty of the Elder and stuff
like that. But if they go into a serious subject
like miss mistreatment or oversights in medicine to more vulnerable
groups and or like uh or like lobotomies, that those
are the less fun episodes, but they're still very good.

(13:22):
So that's what I listened to. I did watch some
things this week. I'm in season three of Ted Lasso,
which I didn't realize that those were characters that started
on like ESPN promos.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well Lasso in particular, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Lasso and his his second coach Beard.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I like the television show version much better. I'm still
watching murder Bot, which is still absolutely delightful. I didn't
read the books, so I don't know when it veers
from the the source material. But my understanding, at least
what I've heard in a little bit of what I've read,

(14:01):
is that Martha Wells is into it. I think I
said that last week. But I'm enjoying it. It's a
lot of fun. It does have some dark stuff, but
it also balances it really well with comedy. So I
just I love the I love the tone. I watched
the latest Game Changer, which is really really fun.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, if you like, if you like reality shows like
Survivor that kind of or Traders, then yeah, you're gonna
you're gonna enjoy that one.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, I started. We just started Love Death and Robots
Volume one for our group watch. I know you all
are thinking, why aren't you still watching That'll start Galactica
that goes on for years, and if you're watching it
once a week, you're gonna watch it for seven years. Well,
the problem is it went off of Amazon Prime and
we didn't want to go find it again. Yeah, and
like or at least that that's what they told me.

(15:00):
I didn't look into it because I had missed several
of the group watches because like, I've seen that Star
Galactica and I'm really busy at this point in time.
So Love Death and Robots, you know, it's it's I
had already watched through all but two episodes of Secret Level,
which is the same creators, very similar kind of concept,
except for Secret Level is to do with video video games,

(15:21):
and Love Death and Robot is general sci fi. And
I know, when we talked about the trailer for Volume
four coming out, I was surprised that Rhys Darby was
just a person in it, because I thought it was
all animation. Well, even Volume one apparently has just people
in it. There's an episode called ice Age with Tofer

(15:42):
Grace and Mary Elizabeth Winstead just as people with a
like a microcosm universe in their freezer. I want to say,
it's cute. It is very adult. It's very adult, you know,
to the point where I personally it could be like, okay,
I could see a little less cgi nudity, but whatever,

(16:06):
that's that's just me, I know, I know, but it is.
It is good and I enjoyed it. So there's that.
And I watched like the first ten minutes of cloud
word Ho which is the new Dimension twenty actual play.
It's like a new world within Roll twenty. I believe

(16:27):
they had some awesome people help build it. And it's
steampunk and like the they do a lot of, like
when Brennan is talking, putting the CPA tone over him,
and like the Crackley radio filter, and it's the way
they started is really surprising and delightful. And I don't

(16:48):
want to spoil it for anybody, but if you're into
actual plays, check it out. It's a cool one. Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay. Well for me, I started so on YouTube, the
little shorts. Sometimes I get caught up in that doom
scrolling thing where you just start watching shorts and start
and I usually I am able to pull myself out
after three or four videos because I realize what I'm
doing and I realize it's not good for my own
mental health. But one of the things that tends to

(17:18):
surface is Rick and Morty because season eight began like
late last month, and it just reminded me, Oh, I
kind of dropped off Rick and Morty. I watched up
through season six, like I watched all of season six,
but I had not watched season seven. Apart from the

(17:39):
first episode, which confused me because when I started, I
was like, wait, no, I know I've seen this one,
But then the next one, I was like, wait, I
don't think I've seen this one. And so I'm watching
season seven occasionally. I'm not like binging it or anything.
I just I think I've only watched two or three
episodes into season seven. But you know, just because I'm like,

(18:01):
occasionally I enjoy that. I do find the nihilism to
be a bit much for my tastes. Like I get
that's the whole thing for Rick, but like he's a
character who almost is is almost never proven to be wrong,

(18:22):
and for a character to almost never be proven wrong
and be such a nihilist is really depressing. Yeah, And
I can only deal with that for so long because
as pessimistic as I can get, I think at heart
I'm still an optimist. I'm just not a naive optimist.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, So watching watching something like this can get a
little rough at times. I also watched Red Sun s
o N. That's an animated Superman feature. It came out
in twenty twenty, so it's several years old, but I
had not watched it. I was I had heard of

(19:06):
the comics that this was based off of. It's an
else world's story in the DC universe, so obviously, like
it's like what if and the premise is what if
Clark Kent wasn't Clark? What if as a child cal
l landed in uh remote Russia as opposed to the

(19:27):
United States.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think I've watched this one too. It's familiar.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's okay, Uh, I wasn't. Jason Isaacs is a voice
in it. Didric Baker Baier is as well, a though
Didrich Baiterer like he's in the past, he's his voice
characters like Batman, but in this one he does Lex
Luthor Amy Acker does a voice in it, So, uh,

(19:51):
it was okay, Like, I don't know, I have a
feeling I would also find the comic books to just
be okay, like not bad, but maybe a little simplistic.
I mean, it's a comic book, so I guess I
can't get too head up about this, but a little
too simplistic, and how it treats the Soviet Union, and

(20:16):
like you're like, okay, this is way more complicated than
a comic book could really handle. But then you ask, well,
why bother doing it? Then you know, but it was okay.
And then I also watched both part one and part
two of the documentary Pee Wee as himself Paul Rubins

(20:37):
giving interviews obviously before he passed away, about his work
and his life, and I learned so much that I
did not know, Like I was a fan of Pewee Herman.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
But it was pretty pretty He was a pretty private person.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Right, He was very private, which and he talks about
it in the documentary. He says like that that both
protected him and ultimately was part of what made him
like not just a target, but it like came back
to bite him in the butt. It's very well done.
It's an incredibly well done documentary. I will say Paul

(21:17):
Rubins is not an easy person to interview. He frequently
makes it hard to interview him, and you can tell
he's doing it, or at least my assumption is he's
doing it partly because he just prickles at the idea
of not being the one in control with final say
over how this is all going to be, but also

(21:39):
partly because he has a mischievous streak a mile wide,
and so he's just kind of devilishly poking at the
director and questioning the director's you know, loyalties and capabilities.
And so I'm watching this and I'm like, man, this

(21:59):
is like Andy Kaufman style performance art where you can't
be sure when the act stops. And I have the
feeling that that's exactly the way Paul Rubins would want
that to be.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
So I guess that's a way for him to control
the narrative.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Even he actually says exactly that. He says exactly that
in the documentary. There's a whole bit in the second
half where and it's not even when he's sitting down
to be interviewed. It was a conversation he had with
the director over the phone, but they recorded the conversation,
and it was essentially the director saying, I don't even

(22:39):
know if you want me to do this movie, Like
I don't know how I'm supposed to do this movie
if you're going to be like this, Like it was
a really real conversation. But I thought it was fascinating.
You get to see lots of footage of people who
were incredibly important in the LA comedy scene, especially underground comedy,

(23:04):
so like Cassandra Peterson, better known as Elvira has some
bits in there. Natasha Leone has a bit because she
starred as a child in an episode of Pewee's Playhouse.
It's it's just it's it's if you have any interest
at all in Pee Herman, you should check it out.

(23:26):
That's on Max. It is well worth your time. I
and each episode is like an hour and forty minutes long.
These are long parts.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
But if you're a bleeding heart like Jonathan and I,
make sure you buy stocking Kleenex first.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Oh yeah, no, there were there were some moments that
did make me emotional, and largely that's because again, like
I was a fan as a kid. I saw his
HBO special, which was he had created a stage show,
a pee Wee Herman stage show that he did with

(24:02):
the Groundlings in LA for a few years, and he
kind of developed it and evolved it, and this is
where he met people like Phil Hartman, who ended up
being Captain Carl in the stage show. And by the
time they filmed it for HBO, he had really refined

(24:23):
this stage show. I had seen the stage show as
a kid from the HBO special, and so I was
a fan of Pewe Herman. Before he had a feature film,
before he had the children's show. And you know, it's
kind of funny because I became a fan of pe
Wee Herman when he was doing his stuff that was

(24:44):
meant for an adult audience, not a child audience.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I remember some pe Wee Herman stuff that was I'm like,
this definitely isn't kid focused.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
But yeah, it was presented in the format as if
it were a children's show, but it was the children's show.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Eventually it did become on but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I'm talking about the original original act. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I don't know. I don't know how I saw his
original act, but I did.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well. Probably you probably saw the HBO special. I mean
that was the one that, like it was on forever,
and in fact, we might be watching it again in
a couple of weeks, Ah okay, because I might want
to have that as one of the things we watch
while we're celebrating my birthday.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Sure, thang, that sounds delightful to me. Well, thank you
for recommending it. Is definitely that one is definitely on
my list. But I again, I have to be in
the right mood, because I have to be in the
right mood to know that I'm going to get sad.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, it's it's also there's parts that are kind
of infuriating too, and like he was a complicated person.
It's it's not all good, Like he he did some
stuff that was not good. Yeah, although, like even the
stuff that he was most famously kind of in trouble
for in trouble for, like you could argue, well, that

(26:11):
wasn't really like, that's not the stuff I would say
was the bad stuff, because when you hear the full story,
you're like, Okay, I understand that. Like the bad stuff
to me was that he was so driven and ambitious
that that overpowered other behaviors like being respectful or nice.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, there are there are certain documentaries like the one
on mister Rogers where you're like, Okay, this was genuinely
a good person trying to do good. Right, not infallible,
but a genuine good person trying to do good. I'm
we're not saying that Paul Rubins was that by any
stretch of the imagine.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, but he was. He was incredibly ambitious, and that
was both a pause and sometimes the negative thing about
his personality. So complicated dude, But yeah, that documentary. I
thought it was incredibly well done. I will say the
last half hour of the second episode there's much less

(27:15):
footage of Paul Rubins himself talking about the events, and
it explains why as it gets closer to the end,
all right, well, we've got a ton of other stuff
to talk about, and we're almost half an hour into
this episode already.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Who Well, that's okay because the first ton of it
is thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's correct, and I believe I go first. Yes, okay,
here we go. We'll be talking about the trailer for
Guillermo del Toros Frankenstein film a little bit later, but
for now, the news is that some fans are upset
that the movie is headed for a streaming only release.
The fans argue that this movie, which looks to be
cinematic as I'll get out, belongs on the big screen.

(27:59):
Will reaction prompt Netflix to push for a limited theatrical release.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
We sure hope, so we do. I doubt it. I'll
talk about that later, but some things are getting a
new life in the theatrical release world. Shin Godzilla, Yeah
I get that right, Yeah, Shin Godzilla, not Godzilla. Shan
is coming to US theaters in August.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
It's a Godzilla film that is done by directors of
Bullet Train Explosion and Neon Genesis Evan Evangelian, and it
starts as kind of as like a dark comedy.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Actually, I am super interested in this. This is one
that I've wanted to see and I was not able
to see. So yes, August fourteenth, four K remaster if
you want to see it.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Cool. Sidney Sweeney was set the star in a Gonzo
adaptation of Egar ellen Poe's The Mask of the Red Death,
but she had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts.
Now Mikey Madison has taken her or places because she
apparently is playing Twins. Madison previously won an Oscar for
her performance in the film Anaura. According to The Hollywood Reporter,

(29:09):
this adaptation from a twenty four and picture start is
gonna be It's gonna be a lot, y'all.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Woof uh a lot in a different way. Gerard Johnstone
Johnstone not Johnston, who is the creator or director behind
Meghan and Megan two point oh, is now working on
a Monster High film for Mattel. I guess Mattel was
like oooh, Barbie did, well, let's do Monster High. You

(29:38):
would think that I would love this because I like
monster tropes, but I'm not a fan of the Monster
High dolls.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So maybe it'll be Mike Flanagan is one of the
more interesting horror directors out there, having helm projects like
The Haunting of hillhal Said Doctor Sleep. His next Stephen
King based project is a TV series of Carrie story
about teenage girl with a terrifying telepathic ability. Summer Howell
has been trapped tapped, not trapped, to star as the

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titular terror. The series will air on Amazon Prime Video.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
However, this means that Mike Flanagan has spread himself a
little too thin, so his remake of the Exorcist is
no longer on the twenty twenty six Universal Pictures slate.
That doesn't mean that it's not coming out, and he's
just saying, hey, we are not going to make the mark. I.
On the one hand, I'm like, great, just like video games,

(30:35):
make sure you're putting out a good product that will
make it successful. However, I'm also like, do we need
another carry to retelling?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah. Well, earlier this year we talked about how the
next film in the Saw franchise became derailed after producers
had a major hissy fit with each other. Now the
Hollywood Reporter says that Blumhouse may soon acquire the franchise.
This isn't the first time rumors have popped up about this,
but apparently this time they might actually mean it. No

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word on what form, if any, the new entries would
take if this deal does go through.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
It diving deeper into the rumor mill, someone leaked news.
Now this might be completely false that Marvel wants to
finish up their King storyline even though they are pivoting
to Doctor Doom, and by doing so, they might recast
King with They might recast Johnthan Majors with Tremmel Tillman,

(31:32):
who is milcheck in severance. I One, I know Johnathan
Major's has gone through therapy, and I hope he is
doing better. Two. I freaking love Tremmel Tillman, and I
think he would be an astounding King.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
He is so good in severance. So he's quiet but
intimidating in ways that are just so effective.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, he's got the range to play a multiverse type
character like that. He's got He's really good at presenting.
I love the casting that Marvel does most of the time.
Jonathan Majors in season one of Loki, I thought did
a great job. He was very over dramatic, but it
really fit. In season two of Loki, it hurt me

(32:22):
to watch him because he just he put in so
many pregnant pauses that it felt almost unwatchable to me.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I feel like I still haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I feel like Tremuel. I mean, it was fun, It
was definitely fun. I feel like Tremel. Tillman also has
a very dramatic quality that he can tap into, but
a little more balanced there as well.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
So well, here's my last story. Do y'all remember that bit?
And back to the future. Marty McFly jumps up on
that stage, picks up a guitar, and leads the band
in a rendition of Johnny B. Good Well. Gibson. Gibson
the company that it was behind the guitar, the McFly blade.
It's hoping to track down that specific instrument. Apparently, the
Gibson Cherry red Es three forty five has been missing

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for years. The search for the guitar will be the
center of an upcoming documentary titled Lost to the Future.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Very interesting. I was watching, we're out of thirty seconds
or less. I can say this. I know I failed.
This week, I was watching an interview with Brett Goldstein,
who is on Ted Lasowen is one of the creators
of Shrinking. Apparently Michael J. Fox is going to be
on the new season of Shrinking, and that that makes
me want to watch. I'm like, yes, yes, Michael J. Fox,

(33:41):
kick all the butt.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah. Yeah, So that started thirty seconds or least, like
I said, Like we said earlier, we're gonna touch back
on at least the Frankenstein stuff in a little bit.
Before we do that, we of course have the stuff
that's not really a genre fit in the strictest sense
that we wanted to touch on. First up is a

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teaser or a trailer for a film called Trust. This
is a movie featuring Sophie Turner. She's playing an actress
who flees to a remote house after a scandal kind
of throws her life into turmoil. But while she's there,
she finds herself being stalked by mysterious strangers who are

(34:24):
possibly hired to quote unquote take care of her. Because
this guy who I based upon his reactions, it made
me think it was her dad, but maybe it's supposed
to be her manager.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Same. I had the same exact back and forth on this.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, he's mad at her for taking off.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It might be like a Britney Spears situation where manager
slash dad less unless the scandal was with this person
and yeah, that's hard to anger, in which case I
really hope we're wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, obviously it looks really intense, like a real intense
thriller slash kind of horror movie comes out in August,
but you know it's not. It's not a supernatural horror
movie or anything like that, so it doesn't really fit
our genre stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It really creeped me out, though it hits on some
topics that are really scary to me.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah. No, it was pretty effective trailer, and Sophie Turner
looks like she really put herself through it in this movie.
Next up, we have Dexter Resurrection. I mentioned that at
the top of the show about back in the New
York Groove because that's the song that plays. So spoilers
for Dexter. I guess if you care about the previous

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seasons of Dexter. I stopped watching after like maybe the
second season, so I knew about what happened, but only
through reading.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I stopped watching. I think in like halfway through the first.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I enjoyed it because I thought, is that Michael C.
Hall is that the actor. His portrayal of Dexter was great,
and I liked all the supporting characters as well. Anyway,
Dexter Resurrection, as the name implies, Dexter's not dead after all.
He wakes up, but he's lured away from Miami to

(36:15):
go to New York, partly to try and avoid questions
that he faces from his old colleague Angel. One of
the Angels a police officer.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Not David booranaz no no.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
No, the different character, still male, but different character. But
Angel wants to confront Dexter about being the Bay Harbor Butcher.
So Dexter goes to New York partly because he's kind
of lured there by a billionaire who's played by Peter Dinklice,

(36:47):
and specifically through this billionaire's assistant who's played by Uma Thurman.
And you might be saying, Wow, this series has got
some serious star power behind it. I'm not even Journey yet.
Yeah right, yeah, Neil Patrick Harris is in it. Kristin
Ritter is in it. David dust malt Malchian is in it. Yeah,

(37:09):
so it turns out Peter Dinglish's character is essentially collecting
serial killers and uh, and so these other actors are
playing beside Zuma Thurman. These other actors are playing other
serial killers. One thing I'm sad about is that is
that dust Malchian's character is called the Gemini Killer. And

(37:31):
I got really excited because I thought that maybe they
were going to somehow reference The Exorcist Part three because
that's also got a character called the Gemini Killer in it.
But they do not appear to be at all connected.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh sadness. It really feels to me like, okay, so
you know how you've got like knives out where everybody's
trying to figure out who the killer is. This feels
like the polaroid negative.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Of this.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Who's not kill it's not the killer.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
The trailer like it gave me such cheesy, over the
top vibes that I feel like it's going to be
the most absurd incarnation of Dexter so far.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm not against that though, because part of the well,
part of the reason I stopped watching Dexter is because
it was at the beginning of like streaming media when
they did had where they were able to stop worrying
about commercial breaks, and so a full hour was a
full hour and I was new to that, and that
felt too long for such a dark show. And then

(38:34):
it got a little too dark for me. I just
I don't know, it just rubbed me the wrong way.
But if it's Goofy, I'm much more into that.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, this, I don't know how. I don't know how
overtly goofy it is. But like the premise itself is wild, right,
like some billionaire who's just like I want to own
a bunch of serial killers, Like what are you even
talking about? This is what I do, a little crazy,
like Neil Patrick Harris's character is apparently like the tattoo

(39:04):
Collector is his serial killer name? Yeah, And like Kristin
Ritter is something like Lady Death or something like that
or I can't remember it. But yeah, it's just wild,
and I don't know. I worry about it being something
like oh uh, smoking aces or or in another sense

(39:29):
of bullet Train, where it's one of those where it's
a physical location where a bunch of people with extraordinary
skills are all gathered in the same place and then
it just becomes like a free for all or something.
I don't know, but we'll see. Yeah. This is also
where the back of the New York Groove played, and
it's the reason why it's stuck in my head.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah. The the next thing that almost fits, like it
almost fits because it's musical theater is we're getting a
Kiss of the Spider Woman. And I thought I knew
at least one song from Kiss of a Spider Woman,
like I don't know, maybe I thought Lucky a Lady
Tonight or something.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Like Guysendall's but okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
No, No, it's Guys and Dolls, which I've never seen
the full of.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Ye you should. I think you would like that musical.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I've auditioned for it. I just I haven't watched it.
Kiss of a Spider Woman apparently, I swear I know
a song from it, but when I looked at the
song list, I know none of them. Anyhow, This movie
stars Jennifer Lopez and Diego Luna. It looks cinematically beautiful.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, So some background, because this story has a long history.
In nineteen seventy six, an Argentine author named Manuel Puig
publishes a novel Kiss of the Spider Woman, and the
story is about these two cell nates in a prison,

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one of whom is a homosexual, the other of whom
is a imprisoned revolutionary right. And the gay man is
trying to relate to the revolutionary by talking about all
these different movies that were important to the gay man.
And there's like six movies or something like that in
the novel. This later, in nineteen eighty three, got adapted

(41:21):
by the author himself into a stage play. Things were
simplified a bit. It went, i think from six films
down to one, but same basic idea. The stage play
was then kind of adapted into a film with Ral
Julia and William Hurt. Still not a musical at this point.
Then it got turned into a musical in nineteen ninety three.

(41:45):
Candor and Ebb, who are the same composers behind things
like Cabaret and Chicago, did the music. OK, So if
you hear anything from Kiss the Spider Woman, it might
sound familiar if you're also familiar with Kender and Ebb's work.
And then the book was written by Terrence McNally, and

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now we've got this film adaptation of the musical adaptation
of this nineteen seventy six Argentine teen novel, there's Your
History Lesson.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, I don't know the musical like, I'm not a
musical theater movie completionist. I don't know if I'll watch it.
I feel like you should.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It's a story that ultimately is more about the two
men in prison, right, but like all the musical stuff, like,
that's the fantastical method by which they are getting to
know one another. It's a I'll tell you this like.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's a rough story, which the trailer doesn't necessarily portray,
so that is a good warning.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Next up, we've got a teaser for another adaptation of
a book. This one is for The Man in My Basement.
It's not a teaser for the Man in My Basement.
I don't have a basement. It's a teaser for a
film titled The Man in.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
My Basement Interesting, which is not a sequel to Where
the Sidewalk Ends.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
That's right, a reel. So the basic story, the basic
story of the plot of the novel is that there's
a man, a black man that's important for the story,
who lives in a home that's been owned by his
family for multiple generations. But he himself isn't ambitious, he

(43:48):
doesn't have he is not really employed. He's kind of directionless.
And then this stranger, a white man, shows up and
offers an annoy us amount of money if he's able
to rent the basement of this man's house, like one
thousand dollars a day for sixty five days. So Corey

(44:09):
Hawkins plays the owner of the home and Willem Dafoe
plays the stranger. And it turns out that the stranger's
motivations are almost inscrutable, but he's clearly wanting to atone
for something or be punished for something. And that's about

(44:31):
all I want to say about what the plot is.
This is a very divisive novel. I haven't seen the
film obviously, but I know about the novel. It's a
devisive novel. Came out in two thousand and four. It's
by Walter Mosley. It's one that people either really enjoy
or they really didn't like at all.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I watched this teaser and I was like, this just
feels like the amount of money this man is getting
paid is not enough.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Well, it's also yeah, it's weird because knowing the novel,
I'm like, huh, I'm wondering how much of this stuff
is supposed to be like maybe a flashback or like
a dream sequence or just in an imagination as opposed
to being something that's actually happening.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
But I'm very unfamiliar with the story.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
So it comes out to theaters and Hulu, and it's
coming out quote unquote soon, that's what the trailer says.
And then we also got a trailer for Dora and
the Search for Soul Dorado as in Dora the Explorer,
and this is a live action Dora the Explorer film.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, so I feel like there's a new Dora the
Explorer show.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
But it.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I guess there have been a few iterations. I didn't
realize that it was still a current thing. This movie
definitely does not feel like like it is made for
the adults who grew up with Dora the Explorer. It's
got a very spy kids sort of shark boy love
a girl sort of a feel to it. Mm hmm.
That level of production value and entertainment. And it's it's

(46:20):
an age appropriate cast, but it is not an animated
animal character appropriate cast. Boots and Swiper both look like
real animals, and that just doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
For me. Yeah. Also, I agree with you, like this
doesn't feel like for example, I think SPI Kids is
a great comparison. I don't think it feels more like
the Scooby Doo movies, which you know, had elements to
those movies that clearly were trying to appeal to adult
fans who remembered the cartoons, because you watch those films

(46:51):
and you're like, there's a lot of suggestive, not like dirty,
but suggestive elements to it where they're playing around with
that kind of stuff, and so if you're old enough
to be aware of it, you're like, oh, I get it,
but you know, it's not so overt as to become
like a parody or a satire.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Okay, So it looks like there's a Dora say O
La to Adventure show that started in twenty twenty four
on Paramount Plus. But also I think the Dora show
is for very young kids.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I might be wrong there this I said. It kind
of looks like like Indiana Jones for little kids. Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, I mean it might be really cute, it might
be fun. Yeah, I have to even care who Dora
is to enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It's not something that's for me. But I you know,
who knows, Like if I if I had seen this
when I was young, I might have been like, oh,
this is totally my jam.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Right, So yeah, if it were for you nowadays, I
might be a little worried.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah. Good, Maybe that high blood pressure thing scrambled a
lot more of my brains than I thought. Okay, well,
let's talk about stuff that actually is on our lineup,
And first up is that Guermo del Toro passion project
of bringing Frankenstein to the screen once again. This is
a film that stars Oscar Isaac and the note I

(48:18):
put here was that the cinematography and the set design
and costuming, like all the all the elements that contribute
to the look of the film seem phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Yes, they really do this. It looks good. I mean
I am. I am a fan of some of Geramo
del Toro's more fantastical stuff anyhow, Shape of Water and
Pans Labyrinth, which are both hard to watch but very good.
And I'm a fan of Frankenstein. It's one of those
monster stories that I read the comic of in fourth

(48:52):
grade along with Dracula, which kind of sparked that enjoyment.
And you know, then there's things like Young Frankenstein, so
Frankenstein is just Frankenstein's Monster is one of those ipis
that I really enjoy. It looks so good. It also
has me a goth and Goth and Christoph Waltz and
Jacob E Lordi in it. It's got such a good cast.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And it does look like to me at least, that
general del Toro is trying to be more faithful to
the original novel as opposed to say, the classic Universal
Pictures version of Frankenstein, which is still a great work.
I'm not casting shade, it's just they took some big
departures from the source material and this looks like it's

(49:37):
trying to be a little closer honestly. Like I still
remember the Frankenstein movie that came out when I was
a teenager and remembering how disappointed I wasn't it, And
I think this is going to be the opposite. I
think like this is like it, at least from a

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technical level, like it could be a maybe not the
definitive Frankenstein's cinematic version, but way up there. Although, as
we mentioned in Thirty Seconds or Less, is not currently
slated for theaters, it is meant to come out to
Netflix in November.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, so, I mean I understand that people want to
see it in theaters, but knowing first of all, knowing
we've all read a little bit about how financial models
between streaming and movie theaters are vastly different and hard
to balance. You know, the Netflix is putting a movie

(50:38):
into theaters. It's Greta Gerwig's Narnia movie. So and that
took so much work. We talked about it in a
previous episode. Took so much work to figure out the
financial model for that, They're more than likely not going
to do it for Frankenstein because I feel like the

(50:59):
Narnia movie is kind of the proof of concept for
this to see if it even works.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's the best kind of publicity, honestly,
because it shows that people are passionate about this project
that's coming up on Netflix. It's a good problem to.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Have, and I'm honestly excited that people want to see
something in the theaters.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, I mean, this definitely looks like like I'm not
you know, it takes a bit for me to go
out to the theater. At this point. I will do
it occasionally, like I've done a couple times this year,
but you know, I'm not eager to do it most times.
But this is another one of those where I feel like,
if you saw it in the theater with the right audience,
like people who are going to treat the material with

(51:45):
the right kind of attitude and not like not like
a rowdy audience that's gonna, you know, be disruptive or whatever,
I think it would be great. Like I love being
in the audiences that are actually connecting with the material
and not just this is a place where I get to,
you know, rip apart something that I don't really personally

(52:07):
find affecting. I'm like, well, don't go then, because everyone
here paid to see the movie and they don't didn't
pay to see you be a jackass.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, honestly I went to see Thunderbolts in the theater
when I did because one I didn't want spoilers, and
two I was like, it will be exciting to go
with people who are excited about it about this movie.
And then it wasn't an empty theater, but it was
opening weekend, and it also wasn't a full theater. We
did go pretty late at night, so maybe.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
That well, we went pretty fairly early in the day,
like maybe like maybe it was a three or four
pm screening, maybe as late as five, but it was
still considered matinee, so probably before five. We went and
saw it on the Sunday of opening weekend and it was,
you know, maybe maybe a third to half full theater,

(52:55):
not even half full, it had to be closer to
a third. But and I would glad that it wasn't
full of people being inappropriate or disruptive.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, that was nice Sinners. When I went to see
Sinners in the theater, that was I thought it was
a completely sold out theater. It wasn't. Most of the
audience was really fantastic. There was a couple sitting next
to me who was very They were very into the movie.
They were vocally into the movie. But since it was
in response to the movie, I didn't mind it as much.

(53:26):
And there were a couple of kids, I think, who
were sneaking into the show because it was one of
those Spring Cinema and Tap, which is a nice little,
I think, independent theater. But it's a very nice theater.
Their seats are heated. You can get a heated seat there,
heated recliner seat, but they're pre assigned, you select your seat,

(53:50):
and these boys would go in and sit down, and
then people would come and be like, you're in our seats,
and then they'd move to another row and other seats
that were empty. And they did this like four times,
and they always turned their phone on bright when they
did it. I really wanted to smack them.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, no, that's not cool. Those are the kind of
folks who Alamo Draft House would kick out and then
just say like, you're not welcome back here again. Yeah. So, anyway, Frankenstein,
I think it looks really well made. Oscar Isaac is
a phenomenal actor. Christoph Waltz I love too, So I

(54:24):
how weird that Christoph Waltz is in both Frankenstein and Dracula. Dracula, Dracula,
there's a new Dracula movie coming out. I did not
know this was happening. Luke Bassan made this and Christoph
Waltz is essentially playing Van Helsing in this one. However,

(54:46):
I'm sure you made the same observation I did watching
this trailer, But I'm curious what are your thoughts about
the trailer for Dracula.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
First of all, I had to look up what else,
Luke Bassan has done, and I like some of his work.
I love the Fifth Element, I dislike some other of
his work. I also did not know this. I also
did not know this was happening. It it's it's it's

(55:17):
pulling off of the Gary.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Oldman one exactly. It is Francis Ford Coppola, the movie
that I refer to as Francis Ford Coppola's bram Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah, and I say this, like, honestly, bits of it
feel a little bit more grounded because Copola's Dracula was
super stylized. The costuming was amazing, but that was half
of the focus.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Right, Yeah, well yeah, Copla Coppola was making a love
letter to classic movie making editing tricks like edit like
in camera editing tricks, that kind of stuff. And like
the first half hour of bram Stoker's Dracula is so
jam packed with these tricks that for me it became distracting.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yes, but it was very artistic. This but this has
the stylings of it, so someone like later on into
in the trailer, it does feel maybe a little bit
more grounded at points, but like the design behind Dracula
and his wife and all of these things. Yeah, it feels, yeah,

(56:25):
the same.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
So there are elements that are in this trailer that
are in Francis Ford Coppola's version as well, and they
are not in the novel. So then you're like, Okay, well,
clearly you're not taking this from the novel. You are
copying because like the hairstyle that Dracula has when he's
in this castle is similar. The fact that the fact
that you have that backstory of him as a soldier

(56:47):
and he is he is essentially condemning God for allowing
his wife to die, and he's rejecting God and that's
what damns him into becoming a vampire. That's all drawn
from Francis Copla as Dracula. So I'm like watching this
and I'm like, and by the way, if you look
at the comments in the YouTube section, a lot of
people are pointing that out too. They're all like, oh,

(57:09):
it's Luke Bassan's Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
But wasn't I didn't watch it Luke Evans right or something?
And I feel like that movie also pulled from the
I'm a soldier who my wife died. I feel like
so many retellings of Dracula didn't read the novel but
rather watched the Copola movie.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, it's just this one, I think more than most
wears it on the sleeve, right, like to the point
where you're like, why did you bother even making this?
Because this movie already exists. It comes out July thirtieth,
at least in France. I don't know if it's if
that's the same date for the United States, because the

(57:56):
trailer we have it was all in English, but all
the subtitles in French.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
French. It my tired brain took a second to parse
all of that. When I was watching it, I might,
I might see it if I'm bored. I've been, I've
seen it. I recently rewatched Coppola's Dracula because there are
bits of that I really like. I almost watched it
on a plane, and then I very much thought better

(58:22):
of myself because I get really self conscious that people
might be looking at my screen like kids.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And yeah, there's a there's.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Sorry, hold on, I'll beap it, okay, okay, I was
so sorry about my language.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Yeah, if you're wondering why, just a second ago, the
audio went weird. It's because Ariel, in her exhausted state,
allowed her potty mouth to take over. It's here's the
funny thing between the two of us. I'm the one
who swears way more.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Just that is, I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Well, when we're hanging out, I think I'm the one
who swears a lot more than you do. Fair Next up,
we if something else is going to just make us
drop swear where it's left and right? Uh No, I'm
just kidding. We got a trailer for the second Wicked film,
Wicked for Good. What did you think of this trailer?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I thought it was beep it No, yeah, beep beep, beep, beep, beep,
beep beep. I so, I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before.
I've never watched the musical and I've never read the book,
and I know the two are rather different, and this
is following the musical. It made me feel more hopeful

(59:35):
than I feel like I should be for the second
act of this show. It also reminded me that, despite
you saying otherwise, Jonathan, there are a couple bangers in
the second act.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
No Good Deed and for Good. I don't think of
as bangers. They're not really They're not bad songs, but
I don't think of them as like like I guess
I for Good is one that mutual friends of ours
love to sing it karaoke because it's a it's a duet.
No Good Deed is fine. The version that's in the

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trailer is quite good. Cynthia Rivo is doing an amazing job.
But I don't know. I just think like things like
dancing through life and popular and defying gravity like those
are the to me, like the quintessential big numbers of Wicked.
It doesn't mean that there aren't also some decent songs
in the second half. I just don't think they're as strong.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I do think that the songs in the first half
are definitely like more upbeatn catchy, But I do think
like for Good when they start singing it in this trailer,
it gave me chills just because it was so beautifully
presented or performed. Rather, I would say, which is the
song that's got like the abercadabra, Like that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
No that's no Good Deed. No Good Deed goes on punish. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, but it looks, it looks pretty, it looks well acted.
I will probably see it. I want to see how
they do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
It's a yeah, looks like there's a lot of bigger
action sequences in this one too, like stuff that they
obviously could not do in a stage show, which is
that's great. Like if you're gonna make a film version
of something, I think for musicals there are two reasons
to make a film version. Reason number one is to

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improve accessibility, because not everyone can make it to live theater.
Maybe you don't live near a place that does live theater.
Maybe live theater is prohibitively expensive for you to go see.
So I like that. And reason too is you can
do something in film, or you could do many things
in film that would be impractical or impossible on stage.

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And in this case, like it's that spectacle that the
stage show does really well, but it's limited, you're limited
by the Shakespeare talked about this and Henry the Fourth,
but like or Henry the Fifth, I guess it was
the beginning of Henry the Fifth. But the the preview
looked really impressive. I still haven't seen the first one,

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so maybe at some point I'll sit down and watch it.
I do like the bits with Dorothy I had to
go back and reread a synopsis of the musical because
there's a moment in this trailer where I was like, wait,
did that happen in the musical? And I had to
go back and look and I was like, oh, I guess,
I guess it. I mean, it's certainly hinted at in

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the musical. I just have no memory because against the
second half of the show, and to me, like, yeah,
my memory of the second half begins and ends with
the very ending of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah you know, I know, I know you've talked about that. Like,
audiences also think that the second half is weaker, so
I'm really interested to see if they're able to pull
off something that is more well received. I watched the
first one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I joyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Jonathan Bailey is so freakin' charismatic, as Fierro is just superb.
I did feel like it was almost it was a
very long first half, but it was almost rushed to
me at points, but I thought it was well done.
I can forgive that the CGI looks like CGI because
it's a fantasy world, but it did look like CGI,

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So I'm a little iffy on that, and I am
surprised that so many people didn't realize it was a
part one, and I know what we know, but we
read about entertainment news, so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
And the second half is going to have a lot
more dramatic work for Fierro. And I think like as
much as I slag off on the second half, as
far as like strong musically wise, like like the fact
that I feel I feel like it's weighted toward the
front half of the musical for the best songs, as

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much as I feel like that this trailer has so
many impressive visuals, like the little sequence with the Wizard
looks like very cool, like super cool. And also this
is going to be the one that incorporates more of
the Wizard of Oz into the story, like the story
of the Wizard of Oz, not just the character, because

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you do get to see little glimpses of Dorothy in this.
The musical talks about Dorothy, but you don't really see
her in the musical. They're going to be able to
do a little bit more of that, which makes you
wonder how much of Wizard of Oz is going to
make its way into Wicked Part two, And that I
think is interesting and I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Do feel like that I have read the synopsis of
the musical. I feel like that will help tie the
second half to the end a little bit better and
maybe give a little bit more closure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, so this comes out November twenty first, I don't
know why I need to even bother saying that the
marketing is going to be everywhere from now until the
end of November. Uh, I'm sure Cynthia, Rivo and Aria
and Grande are going to go on another one of
those crazy press junket tours where they just end up

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holding each other's fingers, holding each other's fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah, and space Now, it's delightful. It's fun. It's actually
fun listening to them talk about those interviews where it's
some of the weirder interactions happened because because they're like, yeah,
we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I mean, those are long days, I imagine. Yeah, I'm
sure by the end of it you are just kind
of hallucinating your way through another interview.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I'm hallucinating my way through this episode, I can tell.
Speaking of hallucinations, we got a full trailer for Sketch,
which we talked about a little bit when the teaser
came out. This trailer gives a lot more information. It
makes the movie feel a lot more upbeat, and if
you aren't, if you don't remember what sketch is, it

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is the the story about a girl who draws monsters
and then they come to life and attack things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, the little girl's name is Amber. She's dealing with
big emotions. She's encouraged to put her feelings into a book.
She apparently drops that book into an enchanted pond of
some sort, and that's when the things that she's drawn
start to come into the real world and start wreaking havoc.

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And this actually looks cuter than I thought it would
because the teaser, like a teaser, I couldn't get a
handle on. Is this a comedy?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Is this a horror that it's going to be pretty bloody?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
It's not horror. It's not horror. It's more like, I
think a comedic kids film, adventure movie that has some
pretty heavy like messaging about coming to terms with your
emotions and getting an understanding of your feelings and how

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other people feel. It's the kind of stuff, honestly, that
mister Rogers specialized in. It's just it's done in a
very fantastic way. But mister Rogers, if you watch any
old Mister Rogers episodes more often than not. What does
episodes were really about, We're getting a better understanding of
your emotions as a child and the emotions of other

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people so that you could grow into all well rounded adult.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I do still and they do talk about that in
the trailer. I do still think there will be some
tens or some mildly scary moments in it because it
is a lot of monsters.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
She's drawing the parents all shapes and sizes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Yeah, the parents are played by Tony Hale and Darcy
d Arcy Carden, who are both incredibly funny people. I
really want to see this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, it comes out August sixth. I will say like,
this trailer ends with an action between three of the kids.
And my last note was the child actors seem like
they're really really good, like like they come across as
like like they're they're delivering snappy lines in a way
that feels natural, Like it feels like kids, but the

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way you think kids talk, not the way they actually talk.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, you can tell that they have they have done
if they don't already understand either. The lines are written
in a way that kids could really understand them. Or
they really worked hard to make sure they understood the content.
It's it's impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, yeah, so I agree, this looks good. Next up
another children movie, not not in that way. Black Phone?

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Is it in any way a children's movie?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Yes, it is, but not not in the sense of
in the sense of kids are the victims? Absolutely it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Ooh no, okay, let me summarize what black Phone the
first thing? Yayes. So In Black Phone, it's set in
the late nineteen seventies. There is a serial kidnapper who
is nicknamed the Grabber, and this is the character who
wears the devilish mask who has been known to snatch

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kids and they just disappear, and the police have no
idea where this person is or where the kids are.
And this one kid, he and his sister are in
a single parent household. Their mother had committed suicide years before.
Their father is mentally damaged by that and is abusive.

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The boy is trying his best to just kind of
make it through day to day. His sister has some
psychic abilities, which her mother also had, and because of
her psychic abilities, the father is particularly hard on the sister.

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I'm guessing because she reminds him of his late wife. Anyway,
the boy gets kidnapped. There's a disconnected phone in the
basement where he's thrown in, and the phone occasionally rings,
and he hears the voices of previous victims giving him
information about how to try and escape from the Grabber.

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The end of that movie spoiler alert, the end of
that movie, the Grabber seems like he's really well and
truly dead. That brings us to Black Phone, too, where
Ethan Hawk, who played the Grabber in the first film,
is back. He is the Grabber, but in my notes,
I'm like, we aren't really clear whether or not he's

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back back, or he's back in the same sense that
his victims were able to reach beyond the veil of
death and contact this young boy. But the trailer looks
creepy as heck.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yes, And maybe that's why I didn't pick up on
all of that, because it looked really scary. I didn't
watch Black Phone, and I don't really have interest, Like
it sounds like an interesting story. It really does, but.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Not for me. It's intense. It's intense. It's not it's
not a it's a well done horror movie. It is
not a pleasant experience.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Fair enough, you need those things. Maybe I don't always
need those things.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Something else that I just want to say comes out
October seventeenth. Okay, go ahead, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Something else that has been too intense for me became
too intense for me and I dropped out. Was The Boys. Well,
we got a trailer for gen V, which is a
spin off of the Boys. It surprisingly looked less grotesque
and more hopeful than I expected it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Interesting, I didn't have I actually had it where it
looked dark. But so gen V, as Asarael mentioned as
a spin off for the Boys, this is following a
educational institution that is designed to train superpowered beings. And

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in the first there's going to be some spoilers for
The Boys in this and for gen V season one.
I apologize, there's just no way to get around it.
But in the process of gen V, that's before everyone
has found out that Vaught essentially manufactured superheroes, that it
created a a serum that then could be injected into

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people to give them superpowers. So essentially, the characters of
gen V discover they weren't born with superpowers. Their parents
elected to have this experimental drug injected into their children
in return for lots of money from Vaught, And so
there's a lot of like trauma to process there. Right, Well,

(01:13:04):
GENV season two, that stuff's out in the open. Now,
like that's an open it's not even a secret, it's
just out in the open.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
So how it came out in like Boys season two,
didn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I think like the public doesn't really find out about
it till maybe season three. But gen V also is
like it's overlapping stuff that's happening in The Boys. It's not,
it's it's supposed to be happening at the same time
as other stuff that's going on in that universe. In
this one, we're seeing scenes of students being either encouraged

(01:13:39):
to or forced to fight one another in like a
gladiator style confrontation. Which that's where I'm thinking, No, this
looks like it's darker to me because now now you're
talking about educational Like, first of all, it was never
an educational institution. It was all about because like the

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education was never about how to identify danger situations and
how to respond to them in a way that is helpful.
It was always about how do you elevate your profile,
how do you get more followers, how do you interact
with the media. Like it had nothing to do with
actually being a hero. It had everything to do with
being perceived as a hero. So this looks just as

(01:14:20):
dark because now it's like, let's pit these two against
each other and the strong will survive, and those are
going to be the essentially the soldiers and the oncoming
confrontation between the superpowered and the non superpowered. Like there's
a lot of magneto kind of energy going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Maybe maybe darker was the wrong word. Maybe it just
at least this trailer didn't look as gross.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yeah, no, there was, which I bet there's going to
be lots of very gross stuff because that just seems
to be bread and butter for this franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I mean, that's kind of the whole point of The Boys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Yeah, I like, I don't object to having some of
that in order to tell your story, but it gets
to the level of gratuitous in The Boys, Like it's
not serving any purpose other than to shock the viewers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
There's no point. They're just seeing how far they can
push the limit, like they've stopped being like we're pushing
the limit to prove a point. Yeah, Yeah. That being said,
I love hamishlink latter, so I adore him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah, it's uh, it looks like it. I mean, I
kind of want to keep watching the Boys to see
it through because it's it's concluding the major storyline. I
think the next season is the last one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
I think it is. They're bringing in all the supernatural people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, yeah, all the Winchesters will be there. I feel
like I need to watch it just to get closure.
But it got to a point like, if it doesn't
end in a satisfying way, I'm gonna ask myself what
was the point of watching it? Because it has been
such a grim march. It's the same issue I had

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with things like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead, and
y'all know how I feel about those, Like it's just
I don't I don't want my stories to just be
wallowing in misery and that's all they do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I haven't watched Speaking, I haven't
watched season two of Last of Us, but I have
spoken to several friends who have started season two and
we're not familiar with the video game, and that has
been delightfully fun just from a outside looking in standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Yeah, finding out like the big thing that happens in
episode two, and they're all like, oh my god, like, yeah, no,
if you had this, it's it's like, it's like the
people who are watching Game of Thrones who had not
read the books and the red wedding comes around and
they were not prepared, and everyone who had read the
books is like, yep, that happens, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Which I guess you could have those feels if you
went into Squid Game knowing nothing about that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Yeah, squid I mean it's another dark Like I'm hoping
for a satisfying ending of this. There's one dark ending
I can imagine, and I hope it's not where they're going,
but it's hard to say. We got a trailer, a
full trailer for Squid Game season three. We've gotten a
couple of teasers leading up to this, and this one

(01:17:28):
shows our protagonist Song Jihun questioning why he was allowed
to live after the events of Squid Game two. Like
he he essentially leads an uprising in an attempt to
gain access to the game runners, and ultimately that effort
is unsuccessful, largely because he isn't aware of the fact

(01:17:51):
that one of the people on his side is not
really on his side. He's secretly the person running the games.
Spoiler for good Game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Season perfect timing on that, Jonathan, I'm stole only halfway
through season one, but.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Well, season two begins begins with us seeing this guy
enter into so it's like it's a secret to the
characters but not to the audience, that kind of thing.
And this is where apparently in this trailer there's a
moment where it's revealed to the protagonist, who up to
that point had not been aware that he was working

(01:18:26):
with a trader. Essentially also shows a couple of new games.
There's a jump rope game that's shown in the trailer
that looks pretty brutal, and the fact we already knew
this part, but that the remaining players are all divided
into two groups, either a Red group or a Blue group,
and that splits up some of the alliances and there. Yeah.

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Comes out on June twenty seventh on Netflix, and I'm
sure I'll watch this to closure as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Like I enjoyed season one of Squid Games, it was
just so dark that I was like, I have to
be in the right mood to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Absolutely absolutely I felt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
That it's a very well told story, at least as
far as I've seen. It did strike me in watching
the trailer for season three, because honestly, this is one
of the shows where I probably benefit from having spoilers, honestly,
so I can emotionally prepare myself for what I'm about
to see, because I very much get into what i'm watching.
Like I when I watched season one of Last of Us.

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When I knew I got to the beautiful but heartbreaking episode,
I'm like, I have to distract myself while I'm watching
this or I'm going to be too I'm going to
be a wreck for the rest of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Yeah. I still can't watch that episode without breaking down.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I mean I can't. I was distracting myself. I
was working on my computer, I think, on LLENC stuff
while I was watching it, and I still bald like
a baby. Watching the trailer for Squid Game season three
and then we'll move on. It did strike me for
how dark of a show it is, how brightly colored
it is. I don't know why that didn't strike me

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in the first two seasons, but yeah, just the childlike
bold colors. Is I like that aesthetic?

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yeah, it's definitely. I think what adds adds to the
unsettling nature of the story, right, is that you've got
this juxtaposition of the childlike elements with the very grim
reality of the outcome. Right, Yeah, so very effective. You know,
no surprise that it was kind of a runaway hit.
So I'm glad that we're getting the conclusion. I'm also

(01:20:32):
glad that we're not having to wait like a year
or two years to get the finale. Like it's literally
it's literally the end of this month. Next up, we
got a trailer for an animated film that's going to
air on Netflix starting July fifth, called The Summer Hakaru Died.
This is a anime adaptation of manga. So this already

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existed in another format, which is the only reason I
know anything about it is because I read up on
the manga. I haven't I haven't read the manga myself.
I watched this trailer, I was like, I don't understand
anything of what I just saw, but it looked really
psychedelic and free heat.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
At first, I thought it was like maybe one of
the story of one of the characters in Uzumaki, which
was that creepy horror spiral Randa, but I don't think
it is. I I will admit I did rush through
this trailer because I missed it and watch it before
the episode, so I don't quite know what's going on

(01:21:36):
in it. But it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
So it's it's the basic stories you got, Like these
two teenage boys who are friends. One of them suffers
a fatal injury and is then possessed by some sort
of otherworldly or other dimensional being that takes possession of

(01:22:00):
this this dead kid and still is trying to navigate
through the human world being but the human world is
alien to this creature and is kind of latching on
to the living teenager. But he's like obviously creeped out
by the fact that this this entity is controlling the

(01:22:23):
body of his former friend. And the trailer, like I said,
has lots of psychedelic elements to it and a lot
of like body horror elements to it, but it doesn't
it also isn't coming across like it's an outright horror story.
Just like there's horror elements to it, it's hard to describe.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Yeah, I'd kind of feel like, do you want to
say when it releases? Because I was about to segue.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Oh yeah, July fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Okay, I also feel like the teaser we got, which
first of all, they called a data announcement, and now
they're calling it a teaser for Wake Up dead Man,
which is the third in the Knives Out Glass Onion series. Yeah,
hard for me to describe, but maybe that's because it
doesn't have the little teaser doesn't have quite the same
levity as the first two.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Yeah, you've got O Death playing underneath it, which I
first became familiar with with Oh Brother, Where art thou?
But it's also used in some of the you know
those games like Until Dawn, the company that makes those games,
the ones that are like the branching storyline games where

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the choices you make will have an effect throughout the
rest of the game, and maybe if you're really good,
you can make everybody survive, but chances are that's not
going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
It was my first Balder's Gate playthrough.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
O Death is used in some of those, and like
there's like a trilogy where O death is used in
that anyway, there's a moment where Ben wil Blanc talks
about the impossible crime and that this is a real
challenge that's really all we get, like, we don't get
a whole lot of information with this other than you know,
the incredible cast list, like yeah, it's like an all

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star cast. You got like Glenn Close and Josh Brolin
and Meela Cunis and Jeremy Renner, Kerrie Washington, Andrew Scott,
Thomas Hayden Church. They do, they do mention the release date,
but in a I mean, it's not like super tricky.
You don't have to decode anything, but it's not super obvious.

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They flash up some Roman numerals, and the Roman numerals
tell you when the release date is, which is December twelfth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Happy birthday to me, maybe, unlike the date announcement for
Stranger Things five, which was actually a date announcement because
they didn't give you any information about the new season
other than when it's coming out at the most freaking inconvenient.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Times ever, November twenty sixth is when it comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
The first volume, which one the day before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
But that's which I have a it's convenient because the
day after Thanksgiving you can watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
That is not convenient for me. The day after Thanksgiving
my house is usually full of one thousand bazillion people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Well, that's your fault for inviting them. It's not like
they break the door down. You bring it on yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Many of them have keys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
I'm not gonna lie. Volume two comes out on Christmas
and the finale is New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Which I'm doing other things those days. I can't binge
Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I don't know what you're bothering doing on New Year's Eve.
To me, like staying in and watching Stranger Things sounds
like the best option.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Sometimes. Okay, sometimes I do stay in and I binge
TV on New Year's Eve. However, sometimes I have a
big old game day until like midnight.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
This is their problem, Ariel. You have friends and if
you just stop doing that. No, but more seriously, yeah,
this trailer mostly I mean, it's almost entirely made up
of clips from previous seasons, and then it gives you
the actual dates of release and mentions this is the

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series finale.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
This is it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
So we've told you all the interesting information you weren't
going to get like crazy trailer showing what's going to happen, because,
like I said, most of the stuff that you see
is taken from previous seasons, including the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Yeah, we do know that Sean Levy, who worked on
Stranger Things, is working on So we've talked about this
in the past, some other sort of spin off, but
not the one you'd kind of expect. And I don't
know if I mentioned this, maybe we mentioned about it
when we talk D and D. He's also making a

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D and D show for Netflix, and so my husband
Tony thinks that maybe it is a D and D
show that is the campaign that the kids were running.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
M Yeah, which is a spin off, but not which
means what do they call the creature in the first
season that it's gotten demogorgan? Yeah, which is a D
and D monster, but not the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
One in It's not it doesn't look like something a
Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
No, but maybe you'd get the actual D and D
version of the demogorgan in the upcoming series. All right,
So next up, we have a trailer for a film
that I told Ariel she should not watch. So, Ariel,
did you watch this?

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
I watched like five minutes on Silent five minutes trailer,
now five minutes, like five or ten seconds on seconds
on Silent and then I was like, Okay, I understand
why I shouldn't watch it. I also don't understand what's
going on, so it just feels like a lot of gratuity.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah, I told I told her not to watch this.
And before I talk about it, I do want to say, like,
if you listen to this and you think, oh, I
need to go check out that trailer, I am giving
you a warning that there is gratuitous material in this
trailer and that it is it in turns shocking and disturbing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
So it may go beyond not child friendly to not
adult friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Yeah, it's certainly not child friendly, not even a little bit. Yeah, Like,
don't think like this is if you have ever asked
yourself I wonder if all animation is for children, Well,
this will categorically tell you that no, it is not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
It's way worse than Cool World.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Yeah, although it does make me think of Ralph Bakshi,
who was the person behind Cool World. I'll talk about
that in a second. So the film is called Dog
of God. It is an animated film. It premiered at
the Trebeca Film Festival. It is rotoscoped. Now you know

(01:28:55):
what rotoscope animation is, Ariel, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Do, because we talked about it in our business on
the brink Disney episodes. Yeah, it's where it's where they
use a person and they film the person and then
they trace over the person for the animation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yes, so when you watch rotoscoped animated films, you might
think like, oh, this looks like like very highly stylized
film as opposed to animation. And that's that's the reason why.
So this film is rotoscoped, which makes it more disturbing
in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
It tells the story of a quote unquote werewolf in
a Livonian community in the seventeenth century. Now, when I
say were wolf, what I really mean is not like
it's not like the were wolf that we associate with
like traditional light canthrop stories. It's more like more like
kind of a witch or a shaman that has like

(01:29:50):
a deep connection to animals and nature. The trailer has
lots of depictions of real just horror, and graphic scenes
of not just horror, but sex as well and torture
and all sorts of stuff. I did say it does
remind me of Ralph Bakshi's experimental stuff, the darker stuff.

(01:30:13):
In particular. It also reminds me of a movie called
Sallow or the one hundred and Twenty Days of Sodom,
which I do not recommend anyone watch unless there they've
got a very strong stomach. It's a very disturbing movie.
This made me think of that it comes out this year.
It's already played at Trebeca. Like I said, one of
the things, one of the descriptions I read actually categorized

(01:30:35):
it partly under comedy. I assume they mean like from
a very dark comedy perspective, but I wanted to cover
it because, like, it falls into so many buckets for
our genre stuff. But it's this is not for everybody.
This is like, I don't know if I will go
and see this because I don't know if I will

(01:30:58):
like what it makes my brain do.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Yeah, I know, I'm definitely noping out of this. It's
definitely in that category of it's not for aerial, not
for Ariel.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
The next thing we've got on here is a trailer
for House on Eden, which is like a found footage
sort of thing. It just looks like I was gonna
say Smash, but I don't know if the two women
in it are actually from Smash. No.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Chris might have been on a Smash video before. It's
call Me Chris is her YouTube channel, and she's been
doing YouTube for a long time, and she's just this
kind of goofy Canadian check who does really silly videos,
mostly of her talking directly to the camera, right, not

(01:31:54):
like sketches or anything like that, although she will occasionally
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
She started doing I first became familiar with her through
her sketches.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Yeah, she'll do things like characters and stuff, especially like
things where she'll talk to herself as different characters. But
a lot of the videos I'm most familiar with are
ones where she's it's like vlog style where she's talking
about something specific, like maybe she's reviewing Japanese snacks or
something like that. Right, But so Chris Collins is in it.

(01:32:22):
Selena Myers is. She's also a YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I love Selena Myers.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
They're both in this movie, so it's like YouTubers who
got together to make a film. They also had done
paranormal investigation videos for Chris's YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Selena, who's handle is Selena Spooky Boo, will put up
like night vision videos of herself having sleepwalking it spells,
which can be kind of creep because you're watching it
through the night vision. But It's also really informative because

(01:33:01):
she shares her experience with dealing with that and her
partner's experience with dealing with that, because yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Yeah, so a house on Eden is like a haunted
house found footage film. It's coming out on Shutter on
July twenty fifth, I wrote that it doesn't look like
it's It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look particularly
groundbreaking either. But you know, if you like found footage
style horror movies, this might be one to check out.
I'm curious to see how how Chris comes across as

(01:33:34):
an actor and not just like a not to diminish this,
but not a YouTube influencer type. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
I mean, I'm going to say, my first experience with
Chris was has she done any other acting? I like,
my first experience was her doing like uber driver skits
on Instagram and TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Yeah. She recently did a review about some candies and
one of the candy companies that she reviewed is one
that has its own YouTube channel, and so she does
this video where she orders all this specialty candy from
this company, like including this really elaborate, beautiful ribbon candy

(01:34:21):
hard candy and she does this video and then, like
I said, the candy company also has a YouTube channel.
They do their own like making of like here's how
we make this type of candy. And it's really like
if you find that kind of stuff relaxing, like I do,
it's great to kind of just zone out and watch people,
you know, like pulling hard candy over and over to

(01:34:41):
get the right consistency and color and that kind of stuff. Well, yeah,
they did a response video where they're like, thanks Chris,
that's awesome. You've sold us out, Like they literally had
sold out of everything. They show the shelves and like
there's nothing on them, and like their their shipping room
is just full of boxes that are getting ready to

(01:35:01):
pick up, and they're like, we're going to be busting
our butts for the next like three weeks trying to
fill out all these orders. And they're like it's a
great problem to have. But they were playfully salty about it,
not really salty, but playfully salty about it. It was
just kind of cute to see two different YouTubers who
had no real connection apart from one tried the other

(01:35:22):
one's product, gave it a positive review, and then that
had a huge impact. But yeah, you know, they didn't
know each other, so that was kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Yeah, and that kind of marketing is really cool and
fun to watch how it works. Because we talked about it,
I wanted to look whether Chris Collins had done other acting,
and she's been in six things, one of which is
Kids That she was in an episode of Kids in
the Hall.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Oh wow, well, I mean she is Canadian.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
So yeah, and then eighty x M.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Oh wait, yeah, she wasn't. She wasn't Kids in the Hall.
She was in the more recent Kids in the Hall
where they did the limited series on was Amazon I
think it was Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was in eighty XM,
which was a short one episode of the Smash TV series,
and six episodes of Gi Normo Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
And finally, at the last second, Ariel added. By the
last second, I mean last night, Ariel added a trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
I didn't even add the link.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
No, no, I had to find the link and added
but she put the She's like, hey watch this. I'm like, okay,
I'll go find it and watch it. I guess she
put the trailer for Alien Earth and in a further
proof that Ariel is very tired. She did not pick
up on the fact that Alien Earth had numerous references

(01:36:48):
to one of her favorite works of literature of all time,
Petra Pan, Peter Pan, Petra Pan, the Russian.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Version, Patapan, the Christmas version. Yeah. So back when we
first learned about Alien Earth, I'm sure I've beat this
rock to a dust already. On this show they talked
about it kind of following the corporations, like the shady
corporations behind everything being the main and then I think

(01:37:20):
there are this TV show actually has four others we
find out, and the show focusing on that and so this,
and then we got a bunch of teasers where they
like showed the cell multiplication of an embryo of a
new kind of alien xenomorph hybrid something.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Yeah, it was really gross.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Yeah, and like a spaceship and outer space. And so
I was really doubtful it was going to focus on
the corporations that maybe are pulling the strings behind a
lot of this tragedy, But this trailer sure makes it
seem like that is in fact what it is focusing on.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
It is focusing on it is, however, messing with the
timeline a lot to the point where I'm like, the
Alien timeline literally makes no sense to me anymore, and
it almost needs just a total reboot, like just so, yeah,
it's kind of like Highlander. How Highlander? After the first
film nothing made sense, Like they kept trying, but it

(01:38:17):
never I mean, arguably the first film doesn't really make sense.
But it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
That's why I was laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Yeah, it's fun. Though. After that, though, everything that is
added to it ends up contradicting, at least in part,
something that happened in the first film. I kind of
feel the same way. It's true about Alien. So this
series is set like thirty years before the events of
the first Alien film, which means it would be happening

(01:38:46):
around the same time as Prometheus, except that the showrunner
has said he didn't like Prometheus, and so he's kind
of ignoring Prometheus and its sequel.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
I mean, I feel like that's the general consensus of
most people who saw Prometheus.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Yeah. So, but then others are arguing, well, the way
it's presented an Alien, the crew of the Nostromo are
the first who are able to report back the existence
of the Xenomorph, and that you know, this seems to
contradict that, because it appears that the xenomorph is going

(01:39:25):
to play at least some role in Alien Earth. So
that's confusing. The Other thing is that you have all
these peter Pan references, which makes you wonder like is
there a reason for that? Is it just to be cheeky?
Is there like actual connective tissue somehow? Because the trailer

(01:39:46):
opens where we find that a young girl, presumably a
young girl who has some sort of incurable condition, is
going to have her consciousness transferred into a synthetic body
like an answer, So they.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Say, oh, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt your synopsis.
They say that she is very very special, and I
wonder if she has some relation to Prometheus and that
she's got some of that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
You didn't watch it, no, But again, this would be
happening around the same time as the stuff in Prometheus,
which is happening in deep space, and this is happening
on Earth, so it doesn't really I can't see where
there'd be a connection anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
I mean like maybe like there are these primordial beings
that created stuff, horrible stuff, and maybe she has some
relation to them or ooze from them, like my well,
continue on, I have some theories, but.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
You continue, Well, my theory is that she's supposed to
have some sort of condition that is expected to make
her lifespan significantly shorter. Whether or not she got that naturally,
or maybe even the corporation did it on purpose, we
don't know. But she is being Her consciousness is being
transferred into a synthetic body. Her name is Wendy, clearly

(01:41:02):
a reference to Peter Pan because the facility where this
is happening is on never Land Research Island, so never
Land another Peter Pan reference. I looked at the cast list.
There is an actor who's playing a character who's called Toodles.
It's a lost boy reference. Another one who's playing a
character called me. That's a you know, obviously a pirate

(01:41:25):
reference from Peter Pan. Although the CEO, the young CEO
of the company, his name is ludicrous. Did you see
what his name is. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's not Peter Pan.
It's not Peter Pan. No boy cavalier. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
There's also a nibs in a curly and a slightly yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
So it's there's all these references to Peter Pan, and
I'm like, is there a I mean, you name someone Smee.
Like some of these references might who Okay, crazy woman,
you clearly have an idea, why don't you share it
with the rest of the class.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
The company names them after these classic literary Lost boy characters.
I don't know about sme but the rest of them
because the Lost Boys never grow up and therefore never
die of natural causes, and once you are put into
a synthetic body, that is the same case for you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Yeah, assuming that these other characters are also synthetics.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
I I feel like at least one of them is,
because in the trailer, Wendy goes we I don't remember.
It's something to the effect that we can't die, we're
really strong or something like that. So my feeling is
that they're sending an army of synthetics in to go
after a spaceship crashes and releases all of these specimens

(01:43:03):
that the creepy corporations have I guess, been trying to
collect or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Yeah. Again, like the timeline to me doesn't work with
the other entries, and alien doesn't mean that this is
going to be bad. It could be really entertaining, really interesting.
I just feel like, with the exception of the first
two Alien movies. A lot of the alien stuff just
doesn't line up very well, and it gets very confusing

(01:43:31):
and contradictory. And I feel like this continues that trend
which show. But it looks it's still it looks interesting,
it looks like it'll be entertaining. I just if you're
someone like me, like I love consistency in my fictional universes,
and when things are inconsistent, it it nags at me.

(01:43:54):
You know, maybe this is a little neurodivergence coming in
on my on my end, but like if something, if
if a universe is unable to maintain internal consistency, it
really starts to bug me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Well, it feels like bad writing. If I can if
like if it can be its own thing with it,
like its own story within the universe, like DC does
that a lot, right, There are all these different Superman
stories that don't line up. They just all focus on Superman,
but they could not exist in the same world together
by any means. If this is like that, it's totally fine,

(01:44:29):
I suspect, but I get what you're saying. If I
think about things too hard, that'll that'll bother me too.
I do wonder if this will show that while alien
which I love alien and Aliens, I think they are
two great different genres but great movies. But this, this
series might show that maybe that wasn't actually the first

(01:44:51):
run in with the Xenomorph, but the waylan Ewtani didn't
want to admit to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
That, Yeah, maybe it's just like, if it's happening at
the scale that it appears to be happening in the series,
how would Wailan Utani be able to contain that information
so that it's not just widely known, right, Like that's
the because this stuff doesn't look like it's a small

(01:45:18):
thing that's happening now. So like it would be like,
if let's say we've got a crew being sent up
to the International Space Station and then Katee Kennedy was
to explode, it'd be kind of hard to keep from them,

(01:45:38):
like it's a big event, like even though they're already
on their way up. And of course, as far as
we can tell, when Nostromo, they weren't necessary. I mean,
I don't know when the Nostromo's mission was supposed to
start again. Timelines are difficult because that wasn't really when
Ridley Scott was making the first alien movie. That wasn't

(01:45:59):
what was important. He was making a monster movie set
in a spaceship where you literally, you know, you can't escape.
There's nowhere to escape too. It's like if you were
on a boat and say Dracula was also on your boat,
and you're like, why did I get on the demeter
in the first place? This was a dumb idea.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
I mean, I didn't watch that movie when it came out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Oh it's not good. Oh yeah, not good. I watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
It is I was very disappointed sadness. Well, if you
want to watch Alien Earth and either be disappointed or
figure out some of the answers to the myriad of
questions we have, when does it come out?

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
August twelfth on FXT. So that's it. Those are we
have gone super long. So I'm just gonna say, if
you want to get in touch with it, you get
in touch with Ariel and then she'll let me know,
because I'm not going to do that for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
I mean, you can reach out to us. I mean
some of this because I had to take a break
in the middle. You can reach out to us on
social media on Instagram and threads and Facebook or large
Nerdron Collider. That's also our discord handle. Our website is
www dot large nurder on collider dot com. I will
get it updated one of these days, maybe this weekend.

(01:47:17):
You can also reach out to us on Gmail. We're
Larger drum Pod at gmail dot com. Yeah, tell us
what you like, what you want to see. If you
have a question you want Jonathan to ask, for me
to ask Jonathan. We love hearing from you, We love
geeking out with you. Have a beautiful week or weekend
whenever you're listening to this and until next time. I

(01:47:38):
am Ariel hiding under the covers Caston, and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
I am Jonathan. It's pronounced Frankensteam Strickland. The Large Nerdron
Collider was created by Aeriel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,

(01:48:02):
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