February 17, 2022 • 58 mins
There was so much geekery during the superbowl, that's almost all we had time to talk about this week. Well that and the new Rescue Rangers trailer. Plus join us as we send Moon Kight to Kindergarten.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerdron Collider podcast is a production of I
Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdron Collider,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me as always is.
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Someday He's going to kick the ball. Jonathan Strickland. I
just learned the moon night doesn't actually moon people. Moon moon.
You can't ask why moon night doesn't moon people. Okay,
well you know what I can ask. I can ask
a question. I can't even explain what made me think
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of this question, Ariel. When you're under the weather, what's
your go to comfort food? Um, mac and cheese. That's
a good answer. It is or cheese, bananas, cheese, bananas.
It's when you take a block of cheddar cheese and
you peel it and you eat it like it's a banana.
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I was like, I was about to I was about
to say, like I'm starting to the thing that your
comfort food is what makes you sick. I mean maybe so.
Originally my comfort food was poor man Shepherd's pie, which
my mom used to make, which is where you put
the mashed potatoes on the bottom, and you cover it
with a layer of ground beef and saute onions, and
then you put regular canned corn and then canned cream
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corn on top of it. So you don't have I don't.
I'm not a big gravy fan, so you don't have
the gravy in there. And it's just really simple and
it's really good and it's really hardy, and that's like
one of my favorite dishes of all time, as simple
as it is, but it makes me sick. So you know,
I have a I can't eat potatoes a cyclical thing.
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I mean, I can't and I don't get a severe
reaction to them, but I have to eat them. I
have to eat it sparingly. So mac and cheese is
my backup, which also means that it's my primary. What
about you, I'm a simple man. I go with the
tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwich combo um typically very
very much a a simple grilled cheese like I'm talking
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like American slice cheese, you know, just because it has
a really good melt factor. I realized that that is
not the best of grilled cheese, as I've had grilled
cheeses that have fancy cheeses in them, and they are
by every definition better. But from comfort food, I go
for the simple, like Kraft American Slice, grilled cheese sandwich,
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Campbell's Tomatoes soup combo. The well. I can't do the
tomato soup, and I used to, like, I throw a
fit in pre school because I had to eat like
tomato soup with elbow noodles in it, and I only
want to eat the noodles and I didn't want to
eat the tomatoes. So at that time, we didn't know
I had an allergy. So I threw kind of a
fit and gotten trouble for it. But American cheese and
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a grilled cheese is the way to go. It's like
a hug. It's it's so like silky and smooth. It's
like a hug in your mouth. For dessert, you've got
to also cut the sandwich on a diagonal, by the way,
I forgot that. I agree, I agree, So you get
the ultimate cheese pull uh for dessert because you know
you have to have your comfort dissert as well. It's
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coffee ice cream, Okay, yeah, I think for me it's
peanut butter ice cream. But okay, let's uh no, no
reason why I was asking that. Cough, cough, covid yuck. Okay,
let's move on. Sorry, still not feeling well. Almost I'm
almost through it. I'm like, one more day and I
get to emerge from isolation. But we've got news to
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cover and you'll be in the future, yes, just just
like whereas by the rest of our lives. Look, I
was segueing into the fact that we're getting a future
rama reboot um again again, Like, okay, the first few
Surama reboot was okay, yeah, I've got thoughts on that.
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But also, like I like Futurama, I do, and I
think it's like Simpsons, it's one of the ones that
has more potential for reboot, but like, I don't know,
it's never quite the same. If you look at Animaniacs,
which is one of my favorite cartoons of all times,
and the reboot just did not hit the same notes.
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And I'm worried that the more you reboot Futurama, like
you know, like a clone of a clone of a
clone of a clone, the dumber they get right, right,
It's it's a copy of a copy of a copy,
So a couple of other things we want to mention.
One is that, at least as of the recording of
this podcast, one of the performers, John DiMaggio, who voice Bender,
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is not currently slated to return. He's been having a
contractual disagreement about how much he should be paid. And
I mean this is a thing like voice actors have
been kind of the kicking uh folks in the acting
world for a long time, like like like they don't
get treated with the respect that other types of actors do.
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That in fact, to the point where like guilds would
sometimes exclude voice actors from other types of actors, which
is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. So that is still going on. Um,
I imagine they'll work something out, because I cannot fathom
them going with Futurama with a different voice vendor and
that actually working out for them. I mean, they could
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try to get someone who sounds the same way, but
you can always tell one. Generally speaking, voice actors have
kind of this code of ethics where it's not cool
to go after someone else's gig, Like if someone else
has that sort of a contractual falling out, it is
considered sort of taboo to sign up for that so yeah.
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The other thing I want to mention is you talked
about the reboot being kind of just okay. I think
a big part of that was that they spent so
much time making jokes about getting canceled and coming back,
and like they had a lot of jokes that were
directed at Fox in particular, um and essentially saying, yeah,
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you idiots, you you canceled us. And it got to
the point where as I was watching, I was like,
can we just move on and make funny stories because
I'm kind of I get that you're better that your
show got canceled, but this is not entertaining. It might
be therapeutic for you, but it's not entertaining. Yeah, like
you can make one episode about that. Animaniacs did the same,
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like or at least that they had one skin in
their first episode at least, but you know, if you're
going to play that joke super sparingly, yeah, I have
no real segue into our next story. So that's if
you want to watch the Netflix Defender series Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Punisher,
Iron Fist or Luke Cage or the actual Defends, you've
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got to do it this month, this February because afterwards,
it's not gonna be on Netflix anymore. Yeah, the the
contract where they had the agreement on how long it
would stay on Netflix is coming up to being expired.
There's a lot of speculation as to where those series
might end up. It's been reported that Daredevil in particular
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has seen like a resurgence in views ever since the
Hawkeye series. Um, I don't know why, Hemp Kingpin and
but yeah, it's it's it's definitely and also Spider Man,
which I still haven't seen, but it has been spoiled
pretty thoroughly for me. But anyway that it's, it's been
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getting popular again, and so there's some real speculation could
end up going to Hulu, could end up going to Disney. Plus,
I've seen a lot of articles that are worded the
headline is worded as if it's definitively going to one
or the other, but I have seen no confirmation on either. Yeah,
I think that wording is probably just to make people click.
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I think so too. It's almost like they're baiting you,
almost almost. But I will be interested to see, you know,
at least we know we're going to get those characters
some more, some of them at least, which is nice.
Um something else I I thought was nice until the
trailer came out for it, and I think it's really nice. Now, Lord,
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is the Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers trailer that just
came out the day that we're recording this. It's the
one with John mulaney is Chip and Andy Samberg is Dale.
And it is not at all what I expected. And
the trailer is so bon curse. It is very weird.
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It has um, it has has it's a mixture of
live action and animation, which we knew was going to
happen going in. We knew that was going to be
the case. But you thought it was going to be
like like the Chipmunks with like c G I chipmunks
and like Alvin Simon Theodore Chipmunks, chipmunks and real people.
You get half of that, one of the two. One
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of the two is c G I because he got
the c G I surgery. Yeah. So this new story,
from what little I can gather from the trailer, because
there's the story might have a wonderful through line in
It might have a wonderful story, but I can't tell
from the trailer. There's just so much packed into it.
That's just like makes you go, what in the world.
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So Chip and Dale are are kind of past their prime. Uh,
Chip is a like insurance salesman or something, and Dale
is running the convention circuit. Chip is still in two
D Dale's and three D. And then they have to
rescue somebody. Um, and then there's like all kinds of cartoons,
all kinds of real life. It's a very like Roger
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Rabbit kind of the world where Pete Bowl and cartoons
lived together and c g I and like, yeah, no,
it's it's it's all sorts of weird. And there's a
lot of meta jokes. Yeah did you happen to see
I'm sure you did. I mean, I don't know how
you couldn't. Uh did you happen to see mc scat
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cat and Paula Abduel in the background in one of
those sequences? I did. I did not know Disney owned
mc scat cat. I don't know that they did, but
they might have licensed him, but ye might have mc
scat cat from two steps forward, two steps back with
the Baula Abdul song shows up, as does Roger Rabbit,
and then My Little Ponies and the cats from Cats,
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but they're the bad c g I version. Yeah, yeah,
as in the Cats from the recent film adaptation of
the musical Cats. Uh, it is truly bizarre. Like I
it is the weirdesting I think I would have ever
noticed or ever seen from Disney. And I mean it's
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because they partnered with a lonely island folks when they this,
which is like when you think about how protective Disney
is of its I P. It is absolutely insane to
see this. Yes, yeah, I don't know if it's going
to be good, but I know I'm going to have
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to watch it. Yeah, yeah, same, I don't I don't
know that I like it as of right now because
I just don't understand so much of it. I like
one little part and there's a little c g I
mouse that's addicted to cheese and he's like, more please
in a cartoon mouse feeds some cheese and he says
more please. In a cartoon, mouse feeds some cheese. And
that moment is adorable and horrible and I like that moment.
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It's given me ready player one vibes in a way.
You know, that's sort of like let's throw or space jam.
The most recent space jam leists throw every single reference
we can at this one movie, and knowing the people
who are behind it, I would expect that this would
come across more as a spoof of that, like they're
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making fun of that, as opposed to them trying to
create their own version of that, which is part of
why I'm interested. Yeah, I know. Originally, when this movie
was announced and like the casting was up on IMDb,
like the minimal casting, my my friend and my niece
and nephews were upset that there wasn't a Monty or
Zipper or gadget. But there are. There is a Monty
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in a zipper. We know at least um from this trailer.
No Gadget can be seen, but maybe they have to
rescue her. And that's how we found out, thank you Gizmoto,
that there is also a gadget cult in Russia. Yeah,
I did not know that until I read that article.
So bizarre, so bizarre. The world is so much stranger
than any bizarre movie with a three D chipmunk and
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a two D chipmunk teeming up could could make you
believe that's true. I guess just have to go to
outer space for some normalcy. Yes, we are just as
we were about to go to record it. This we
saw the notification that there is going to be another
Star Trek film in the Abrams universe of Star Trek films.
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So we had Star Trek Beyond, which a lot of
people just assume was going to be the third and
final film in a trilogy with Chris pine As as
Captain Kirk and you know, uh, you know, Simon peg
As as Scottie and all that, but all the surviving
cast members are going to come back and do a
fourth movie. Yeah, it's it's hard to hear surviving members. Well,
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I know, I it's hard for me to talk about
because he was an incredibly talented actor. Yeah. Yeah, um,
I do like that Matt Shakeman is directing. He did
want a vision Shackman, not shank Chackman. Um, because I
feel like One Division had the kind of moral and
emotional bent that would play really well in Star Trek.
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Not that that's all he can do, but but we
need sensibilities. Yeah, because One Division, like to this day,
One Division is still one of those shows that I
think had one of the deepest emotional gut punches for me,
one that is currently very relevant in uh in our
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lives not to get into it, but like, there were
messages in one division that I felt were really powerful
and it made you forget that they were being delivered
from comic book characters. So I agree. I think that
this could be something that you know, we could see
some real emotional resonance in this Star Trek film as
well as it'll be you know, thrilling and exciting and
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all that as well. Yeah, yeah, I actually I really
liked the first I didn't mind the second. Uh, I
really like the third as well, which I know you
have not seen so excited. I haven't seen Star Trek
on I did not like Into Darkness. I was pretty
vocal about that. The second one of the first second one,
that's that's the that's the Return of Con. Listen. It's
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following the old Star Trek movie trope, which is every
other one is good and every other one is The
old trope was that the even ones were good. Well
that number two, number two was the one that you
didn't like. So I'm saying that the even ones were
good in the original one, see because Wrath of Con
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was too and then Search for Spot was three, but
Voyage Home was four, but then Final Frontier was five. Listen.
You know I watched them at a period of time
where I had very little like refined taste, and I
enjoyed most of them. I understand. It was back when
Griel wasn't able to count. Okay, we're gonna go to
commercial break. I'm kidding, Garril, I'm kidding. I may I
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may not come back. Hey, Twitter fans who were talking
about us getting spicy on Twitter, it's happening again. Tell
you what's going to happen in the commercial break will
be all love e W when you come back. Okay,
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we uh we made up during the commercial break of
nothing like a little consumerism to really bring people back together.
And speaking of consumerism, we're now going to talk about
some of the geek themed commercials that were in the
superb Owl. Yes, so I watched the game and Jonathan
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did not. There were a lot. There are a lot
of what I would say would be geek themed commercials
in there. Also a lot of cryptocurrency commercials. Yeah yeah,
including the coin base one where they had the QR
code up on screen and it crashed their app, which
which two people. I only had a couple of people
over that have been in my bubble. Um, we all
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knew we were not Covidy before they came over, but
two of them scanned the QR code. One of them refused, um,
and I let them tell me what it was. I
followed the story of the commercials using a live blog
that only told me about the commercials and had nothing
about the game itself, which is fine. I am not
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a well and you know, I had an incredible ending.
I understand that I don't care about the Kitty Cats
versus the Horny Goats, so I didn't really watch it.
But um again, I'm making light of it. But that's
because like, it's just not my passion. I totally respect
people who love sports. That's great. I'm glad that's your thing,
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and I hope that you took a great amount of
enjoyment if you were a fan of the Kitty Cats.
I'm sorry. But yeah, Well, we wanted to talk about
some of the trailers that came out. Yeah, real quick,
Before we do that, I want to say, because you
didn't watch them, you followed the blog, you missed many
of the commercial ski here not had a really good music,
like something I noticed exceptional music. I actually watched the
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commercials that because I watched the they had the YouTube videos.
But I will say also there were different versions that
were on YouTube versus the ones that were actually during
the game. The first one we're going to talk about
is the trailer for Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness,
and that one had two different, slightly different versions. The
one in the game was different from the one that
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they actually put up on YouTube. But boy, howdy did
they give us a lot in that one. Yes. Uh.
I First of all, I am glad that it's so
prominently featuring Wanda yes Um Scarlet Witch, and I love
there's this great moment where she is talking about how
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when he breaks the rules, when Doctor Strange breaks the rules,
he's considered a hero. When she breaks the rules, she's
a villain, and she says it doesn't seem fair, and
I'm like, there's it's like shelling the way she delivers
that line, because it's just so matter of fact and
like Elizabeth Olsen is a phenomenal actress, which I really
didn't appreciate until one division. But boy, I loved the
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little bits we got to see in this trailer. Yeah,
this movie is going to be so bizarre that. I
think she's really going to bring a super grounded perspective
to it, which I considering the subject matter, which I like. Um,
I'm also very excited that in the trailer you can
see that there is evil Doctor Strange, which we got
in the what If series. Yeah, there's actually I think
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a lot of what If is bleeding into this because
not only was their sinister Strange, which yes, please let
Benedict Cumberbatch and go go off the rails please, there
looked like there could be some zombie stuff going on.
It looked like that's a possibility. It looks like Captain Carter.
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Isn't this Captain Carter. That's Peggy Carter as Captain America,
So she's Captain. I saw that, but I missed it
in the trailer. Okay, So in the trailer there's a
sequence where we see doctor Strange being led to stand
in front of a group of people. Uh, there four
Ultron robots that are leading in there. That already was crazy.
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They see Ultron again, or at least the Ultron bots again,
and what it appears to be the Illuminati. In Marvel Comics,
the Illuminati is a group of of characters who together
try to protect all of reality and Doctor Strange usually
as a member of the Illuminati, as is uh the
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Black Bolt, and Iron Man has often one as well. Well.
If you look at the silhouettes on the diet, which
is hard to make out, one of them appears to
I think be Captain Carr, the one sitting down. Um,
I think Morda is one of the other ones. Uh, yeah,
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it's also. But the big news, obviously is that there's
a familiar voice that rings out and a little bit
of a hint of a silhouette from behind it, and
it's Jonathan Strickland that yeah, well, I mean same haircut,
but no, it is it is Captain McCard. No, I'm sorry,
it's Professor X. It is. It'll be good to see
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him in something after Logan because that was so sad. Yeah,
I love this trailer. Here's the thing, you know what
this trailer made me think of Ariel. Do you remember
way back in the day when there was that fan
film that was presented as a trailer that was Grayson
supposed to be the story of Robin. That's the feeling
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I got walking away after the first time I saw
Grayson was that looked amazing and then on second thought,
I was like, how would you actually fit all of
that plot into a single movie. That's the feeling I'm
getting with this trailer. Yes, I completely agree um something
and maybe I just missed it that I was surprised
not to see in it because we knew that back
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and not that plans can't change. We knew back in
the day that she would tell Afo was going to
be kind of the villain of this series of this movie.
That's what they said way back when I might have changed.
We see him, we don't see King the Conqueror. I
don't think. I think I think we're not going to
see Kang again until Quantum Mania, the next ant Man movie.
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I think that's when we're going to see him next. Um. Yeah.
So there's like there's so many different opportunities to see
interesting stuff, Like I still I'm still hoping to see
alternate versions of heroes and maybe two of the same
hero played by two different actors, just from other Marvel franchises.
I mean Human Torch. We would get to see Chris
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Evans again, but I mean Captain America. Yeah, I was
gonna say we could get Keptain America and Human Torch.
But now that he won't come back Captain America, he
could get three different human torches if they really wanted.
But no one ever acknowledges the Roger Corman film. I
mean that one I'm fine with. It's the latest one
that I'm like. But yeah, but then you could also
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have kill Monger and human human torch going face to face.
That's true. Okay, that's okay, that makes it exciting again.
I mean anyhow, I'm excited for this. Uh. Sam Raimid
tends to make really fun movies. Um so yeah, so
we have other trailers we should chat about very quickly.
We spent way more time on Dr Strange than I anticipated.
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There was so much. We we have a little bit
of time. Yeah, we saw nope, um the next Jordan
Peel suspense horror sci fi film. This one's an alien film. Uh.
It was just enough to intrigue me. And I love
the soundtrack. Yes, I love the soundtrack. There's still a
lot of like what much like Chip and Dale or
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Multiverse of Madness, A lot of like what what exactly
is going on here? There's an awful lot of genres.
It feels like in this one movie. Um, they say
never read the comments, but I read the comments under
the YouTube trailer and someone said, man, Jordan Keele has
a really good way of putting horror into comedy and
I or vice versa, and I really really agree. I
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thought that this the trailer had a really good um
balance of everything that it put into it. Yeah, and
I think those are the movies that I find the
most intriguing, right Like, there are a lot of horror
movies that attempt to have some comedy in them and
kind of fail. There's some that will surprise you, Like
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there was the Friday the Thirteenth reboot from a few
years ago that had some I wouldn't say alright comedy,
but definitely humor in it, and to me, it totally worked.
I was like, I I was surprised at how entertained
I was by a movie. Nope, looks like it's gonna
be really interesting. I'm curious. I'm curious what sort of
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because with Jordan Peel you start to expect it, you
start to expect some sort of deeper commentary as part
of it. And I'm very curious to see what that
deeper commentary might be in this full me too. Two
other quick things about it before we move on to
the next trailer one. I was very much getting like
welcome to night Vale glow Cloud vibes from it. I
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feel like, uh, nobody, nobody in my close social circle,
like my husband as in, like the person I live
with and see every day, he's never listened to Nightvale.
He doesn't know, so like I've got to night Vell
posters up behind me on the wall. So I've just
been waiting to say that and then too. I also,
with that same group of very small people that came
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over for Super Bowl, we watched Color out of Space
because my friend is the Nicolas Cage version because my
friend is a huge Lovecraft horror esque fan, which one
uh watching next to the Nope trailer. See there are
some similarities between the two. Um and to that movie
is really scary and really disturbing. I'll have to check
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it out. I haven't seen that, and I've seen Mandy,
but I haven't seen Color out of Space. There was
a trailer for Mandy at the beginning of it. Boy,
Mandy is a heck of a ride. Look, I watched
Dagon and that was ridiculous, so I could I could
enjoy the one This one. This one is not as ridiculous.
This one, I would say is a better quality movie
and not as fun. But again, unless you're a really big,
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like creepy, disturbing horror fan, wouldn't recommend it. Well. Next up,
we saw a trailer for The Rings of Power, the
Lord of the Rings series on Amazon, which I am
told is going to feature four main storylines and see
if I can remember them. One is like the coming
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of age of l Rond, because this is when l
Rond is much younger. It's the Second Age. Lord of
the Rings in Hobbit take place in the third Age,
so which in an age last thousands of years. So
one is the coming of age of el Rond essentially.
One is the rise of Sauron, back when he was
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still like a physical entity before he became the flat
sexy magicians. One is a glad Reel story when she
was like warrior queen type of character. And then one
is the last alliance of elves and men, which is
sort of the final stand at the end of the
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second Age. This is what we saw the We saw
a bit of that in the prologue to Lurd of
the Rings. That's when a selder cuts the ring off
of Sauron's hand that's at the end of one of
the climatic battles in the Last Alliance of Elves and Ments.
That's gonna be part of it. Um, I guess. Actually
technically then there's also the rise and fall of New Menoir,
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which is an island that doesn't exist by the time
Lord of the Rings is taking place, but is where
like uh Arragorn's ancestry dates too. Yeah. So so Game
of Thrones and Wheel of Time both have this issue
with me where there's so many characters and there's so
much going on it's hard for me to follow. Um.
I'm a little more familiar with Lord of the Lord
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of the Rings history, so it'll be easier for me
for me to follow. But despite despite my issues with
other series in that sort of format, I am actually
really looking forward to this. I thought it looked so
pretty and it excited me, and I want to know
the things that they were showing me. So yeah. Finding
a little side note, this was not part of the
big game commercials, but we also learned of an animated
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Lord of the Rings movie that's supposed to come out
in four The War of rohre Um so I think
we talked about that on a previous episode. Did we
don't think I had even heard of it before, but
if we didn't, I at least put it in our
show notes. But it is recent news. Yeah, So that's
that's gonna come out in a couple of years. Uh,
and we'll that'll deal with stuff that happened earlier in
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the third age, so it'll be between the stuff we
see in the Rings of Power and the Lord of
the Rings movies. And then we had a little trailer
of various Netflix projects that are coming out in the
near future, including Knives Out Too, which is the one
I'm most excited about seeing. I'm excited about that. There's
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a movie called Slumberland, which is one thousand percent a
child's movie, I think, But um, I say one, I think,
good talking aerial but it's got Jason Momoa and it
and they show it's the movie they show the least
amount of and it was the most visually intriguing to me.
It's it's got like a dude with horns on a
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flying carpet with a kid um. And then the Adam Project,
which is done by Brian Reynolds and the Free Guy crew,
and is adult Ryan Reynolds and kid Ryan Reynolds with spaceships.
So it made me think of Free Guy Meets Meet
the Robinson's Flight of the Navigator a little bit. Yeah. Yeah,
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so that was interesting too. We'll definitely be talking more
about those projects as time goes on. But speaking of
time going on, it is time for us to take
another break, and when we come back, we're going to
talk about a couple of other commercials that played at
the superb Owl, a bit of sad news and how
that leads into our mashup for this week. But first
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these messages. Okay, more commercial. Yeah, we've taken back from
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commercials to talk about the things. Yes, the first of
which is the Moon Night uh commercial, which it was okay, Yeah,
it gave us a little It honestly just felt like
kind of an alternative trade alert to the one we
had already seen. Yeah, it didn't make me more interested
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in the property. I'm gonna watch it because Oscar Isaac
and Ethan Hawk, although it's interesting to me that they're
spending so much time on Ethan, like showing Ethan Hawk
in the show because from my research for our mash up,
because it's Jonathan I have said previously, we are not
we're not Moonnight s one of our mash up properties.
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Neither of us is like incredibly familiar with the property,
even though I have some Moonnight comics right behind me. Um.
But his character I think is super minor in the comics.
But also from why I understand we get an explanation,
or we will get an explanation for that absolutely atrocious
Cockney accent that Oscar Isaac is using, because it may
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be that that's one of we've mentioned this before that
the character, uh, it's associative identity disorder, right, Mark Spector
has dissociative identity disorder and has multiple personnalities, and the
chance is that one of those is one that has
this accent and it's not the quote unquote true personality,
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which would make sense because if you know the background
to Mark Specter, the character that you see on screen
doesn't even remotely resemble that character. So we'll talk about
that more, i'm sure in the mashups. But then another
bit was that we had talked about how Arnold Schwarzenegger
had shown up on a poster where he's Zeus and
we had guessed that that was probably a reference to
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a commercial that we played during the Super Bowl, But um,
I think at the time I thought it was going
to be a beer commercial. It turns out it's not.
It was for an electric BMW vehicle commercial. Yeah, which
I guess makes more sense. I also thought there because
it's kind of got that Budweiser blue going on in
the picture. Um, it also had summahiak and I had
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them singing a terrible like singing along to Electric Avenue
and yeah, and it was horrible. It was okay, it
was maybe a cute concept and way more highly produced
than it needed to be. It wasn't funny enough. I
feel too warrant the budget spent on it, because Super
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Bowl commercials are very expensive. I have to say, though,
thanks to meta slash Facebook, it was by no means
the worst commercial show during the Yeah, that was scary. Yeah,
the metal one was terrible. But anyway, so that there
was that, and then the Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to
play a part in our mashup. But the other bit
of news, the sad bit of news, is that Ivan
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Reitman passed away. Ivan Rightman was a director who directed
lots of of great films, including Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters,
but he also directed a little film called Kindergarten Cop. Yes,
and so Kindergarten Cop, because we've done Ghostbusters recently, will
be the other property in our mashup. So which do
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you want to explain, John, Then I'm hoping it's Moonnight. Okay,
I'll explain moon Night. Sure, Sure, Okay. So here's here's
the here's what you need to know about Moonnight if
you're going with the broad canon, because just like with
any comic book character, lots of different writers have written
for Moonnight, and when different writers write for a character,
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sometimes they change, like sometimes their powers change. So Moonnight
in general doesn't really have superpowers. Uh. The character is
Mark Specter, who was a former marine who then becomes
a mercenary. He has his own code of ethics and morality,
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and when he's pushed really hard to break that, he
gets into an altercation with a fellow mercenary. He's left
for dead. He has brought to a statue of an
ancient Egyptian god of the moon and of vengeance. The
god resuscitates him and he is now the god's uh emmissary.
He's the vessel the the instrument of vengeance for this god. However,
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it might just be that he's crazy, that this near
death experience drove him insane, and that he believes that
he has this Egyptian god telling him what to do.
He also has a couple of other personalities that he
uses on occasion. One of them is a taxicab driver.
They're called altars alters um important. Well, he's one of
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them is a taxicab driver. Another one is a a
a masked suited character called Mr Knight, who is not
like a punch him up, beat him up of hero
like Moon Night is, but is more of like a detective. Um.
He's also got one that's like a billionaire playboy called
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Stephen Grant. And I think that people are assuming that
the character we're seeing in the Moon Night trailers is
supposed to be the Stephen Grant personality, who is not
a billionaire in this version, but is rather a peon
working for a company. See I would have thought that
it was the Jake Lockley Cabby Um Cabby personality. Yeah,
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but uh, Moon Night's kind of like Batman, except he
hurts people way more than Batman typically does. Yeah. Yeah,
And in the TV show Arthur Harrow, which is who
Ethan Hawk is playing, actually does amplify some of moon
Night's more like legitimate powers like a super intelligence and
(36:30):
and like physical things. Yeah, so he he doesn't he
can't fly or anything like that. He has very strong,
very smart, very agile. Uh tends to use a lot
of different like gadgets too, which is again he gets
he gets compared with Batman a lot. He does. I mean,
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he does have some physical powers depending on where you
where you go into things. Um. Also he's very violent, yes,
very like I said, he MUTI lates like he doesn't
just beat him up. And at one point in time
he took up boxing. Okay, Um, just like adding little
things that are important for you for my own yes, okay,
(37:14):
I'm sure it still won't because I took what I
knew with what my husband knew, with what the Internet
told me. Um. And that's always a recipe for a
glorious cake. Okay. Uh. So Kindergarten Cop is a story
where Arnold Schwarzenegger is a cop and he's trying to
take down like this drug lord and he's able to
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do it, but he really needs a witness to make
sure that this guy actually gets booked with his charges
and goes to jail and all that stuff. Um, And
so he he targets the drug lord's wife for that. Um.
He thinks that the wife has taken money from the
drug lord and the drug lord is after her, and
so he goes to Oregon with his partner to like
(38:00):
look her down and offer her immunity in exchange for
her testimony against her ex husband. Um. And to do that,
he and his partner become well, his partner becomes as teacher.
She used to be a teacher before she was a cop.
She gets sick, he takes over. He's not really teacher material,
but the kids love him anyhow, and he brings like
a ferret in and uh. Like there are lots of
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lots of great lines from Kindergarten. Copy my favorite, I
don't think I can it's not a tumor, or I'm
the party pooper. Um, this is what I'm gonna do
to you, which he says to a kid who won't
be quiet, and he snaps a pencil in front of
it and then like my favorite line, I don't know
if I can say it on this podcast, which is
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boys have um boy parts and girls have girl parts. Um,
I don't know, can I can I say those words?
You can see, Okay, boys have penises and girls have vaginas. Um,
you know just what a kid just just free. So
kids are kindergarten kids and it's hilarious. Right. So the whole,
the whole thing is that, of course he's trying to
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track down where the mom is, and he's also having
to pose undercover as this teacher, and he did not
account for the fact that that means he's actually going
to have to deal with these kids. And it ends
up being this very silly, very warmhearted kind of comedy
that also still managed steff Arnold Schwarzenegger acting all action
(39:27):
hero e. Yeah, because the drugg Lord does find the parent,
he comes, he shoots up to school, he shoots up
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Um, you know, Arnold falls for the mom,
finds out that she's actually the person he's been looking for,
and then she gets mad because he's lied about who
he is. It's it's the whole action intrigued thing. But
it's it's very fun. It's a lot of fun. It's
it's heartwarming. So so we're now going to do our
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mashups and Ariel. I'm going to demand you do yours first, okay.
Uh So I picked two titles in case one of
your titles is the same as mine. Uh So this
is Kindergarten, Knight or moon Moon. You forgot how to night?
Mark Specter x Marine, x Boxer x c I A
now cop finally did it. He had long suspected the
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notorious Raoul Bushman, horrible person who he had fought in
his former careers, was somewhere in America operating a drug
and gambling ring. And then one day Mark cott Bushman
trying to order a hit on his ex wife Joyce Lockley.
That's a play on Jake Lockley, okay. But to make
sure that Bushman would stay behind bars, Mark Spector had
to seek out Joyce to testify against him. So Mark
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and his partner, Marlene Marlene is also his girlfriend in
the comics, traveled to small town, Oregon, where they thought
Joyce was hiding out. When they got there, they found
out that Joyce had a kid, a little red haired girl.
That was the reason she had left Bushman, and Bushman
was after the child, so Mark and his partner went
undercover as school teachers Marlene under the name Phoebe and
Mark under the name Stephen Grant Kimball to try to
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get close to the kid and also the mom. Marlene
took to the VOT teaching like a duck in water. However,
Mark was not prepared to be a teacher. He was
rough and strict with the kids and even threatened violence
on a couple of abusive parents, which was well intentioned
but unacceptable within the school system. Nonetheless, but the kids
adored Mr Steve, and Mr Steve adored them. He would
do things like teach them how to punch tumbles, speak
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other languages, which you know the kids were only did
so well because they were kindergarteners after all, and the
kids would equally enriched Mr Steve's life with bacsab learned
about life, like the differences between princesses and police officers,
their parents, marital relations, and the anatomical difference between boys
and girls. It took some adjusting, but Steve began to
love his teaching job. But Mr Steve was closest of
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all with that little red haired girl, often spending time
together on the swing set during recess. He felt like
she made him closer with his inner child. Then one
day the worst happened. Bushman got off trial and out
of jail and on a technicality and came for his
wayward family. Mr Steve came out to Joyce in the
Child about who he really was, Mark Spector, saying that
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if they helped him, he would keep them safe, and
as expected, Bushman came to the school to get the
girl and kill his ex wife Mark Slash. Mr Steve
got shot multiple times and fell to the ground, but
not before getting a shot out on Bushman himself, and
then he felt someone shaking him Marked In. When Mark
opened his eyes, he was on the swing set with
the little red haired girl, who said enough fun, time
to get back out there and fight real crime. Mark
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Spector looked confused, but then Joyce Lockley turned into Jake
Lockly and moon Night realized he was in a mental
meeting with his altars, not in small town, Oregon, and
the little red haired girl was actually his inner child,
and she yelled at him to wake up and smacked
him in the face. When he woke up, he was
laying on the couch. Marlene ull Rain his on again,
off again Paramore and grounding Forest standing above him. Come
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on We've got a lead on Bushman. The West Coast
Avengers are waiting for you, she said. As moon Night
got up, he said, man, I had the weirdest dream,
and I mean weird for me. That's the last time
I watched eighties movies while I nap. Also, do you
think I'd make a good teacher? Marley and gave him
a confused look as he changed to Moonnight and they
left out to meet the team the end. So moon
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Night does actually have a little red haired girl that
he'll have meetings with his altars in his mind, at
least in the ultimate universe. And there's a little red
haired girl in there that's his that's referred to as
his inner child and might actually be the god that
revived him. So yeah, and that's what Again. One of
the things we were chatting about earlier is that depending
on who's writing the comic, you get these different takes.
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So like Mr Knight will play a part in mine,
but it is not in every version of Moonnight. Um.
And also like there are other ones to like, there
are writers who had have it where moon Night's strength
grows or wanes along with the the phases of the
moon But that's not always the case. Um, mine is
(43:55):
long enough where I think we're probably going to need
to take a quick break. Okay, Ariel, are you prepared
for the thing I'm about to do? I look, I
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pretty much just gave you kindergarten cop with some name
changed out mine mine. Okay, I cheated. I'm just gonna
say that right out front. I cheated. I am not
I don't regret cheating that I have cheated. Mine is
called Moon Night and the kindergarten Cop. And here we go.
Mark Specter has a problem. For one thing, he has
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dissociative personality disorder, and a lot of folks keep misidentifying
it a schizophrenia, which is something else entirely. For another,
mysterious forces outside the borders of space and time have
infused Specter with incredible strength and agility, turning him into
the Moon Night. But he's losing himself in the process.
But perhaps worst of all, he forever being pursued by
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John Kimball, a cop, a cop in kindergarten. Yes, Kimball
is five years old and he's on Specter's ass. Oh
and and John Kimball is five years old and he's
an l A p D. Detective and he's also played
by Arnold Schwarzenegger that everyone behaves like. This is a
regular five year old kid who happens to also be
(45:24):
a cop. It's a really high concept idea and I
think it's gonna test incredibly well with audiences. Anyway, we
joined the story in progress as Mark Specter is making
his way through a major city, which one I don't
really care. We see him shrugging on a coat and
putting on a hat and jumping into a cab, a
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cab that's driven by Mark Specter. Yes, Specter is having
a dissociative episode in which he sees himself in his
guys as Jake Lockley, a cab driver behind the wheel,
while another of his identities, Stephen Grant, is the passenger.
But then keep in mind, Stephen Grant in this case
is the Mark Specter we've been following, and he's in
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the back seat, and we zoom in on Specter's eyes
up the passenger, Mark Spector the Steven Grant version, and
those eyes are framed by sweaty brows as he tries
to will himself back into reality, and he does, and
he sees that behind the wheel is just a nondescript
cab driver looking at him and say, come on, Pal,
where's it you want to go? And Spector mumbles a
(46:26):
destination in a really unconvincing Cockney accent. But it's not
important where we're going, so again I don't really care.
The cabby gets ready to pull into traffic, when suddenly
the back door opens again and a small hand reaches
into the cab and grabs Specter's coat at the shoulder
and hauls Specter out, and we cut and now we
see Specter held up on the sidewalk above the sidewalk
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by Arnold Schwarzenegger. So the small hand was like a
stand in because Arnold wasn't available that day. And now
he's holding up Mark Spector over the ground and he says, gotcha,
says Kimball, And remember that's Arlo Schwarzenegger. Okay, the cop
who is in kindergarten. Now you're coming with me to
answer for your crime. You're looking at a tough sentence, Pal,
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you're headed to time out in Specter, feeling his heart race,
immediately lifts his arms over his head and slides out
of his coat, hitting the ground and then dashing off.
Poop sickles, yells Kimball, throwing the coat to the side
and taking chase, and we get this cool foot chase
sequence where Specter is making his way through a crowded sidewalk,
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you know, ducking down alleys and stuff, and Kimball is
close behind, running like an enormous kid and yelling stop
in the name of the law, and Specter ducks into
a building. He runs up a set of stairs, and
he's trying different doors as he's running down hallways and stuff,
but they're all locked until at the third floor he
finds a door that's open, and he dashes in and
he closes the door behind him and he locks it,
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and he is really really quiet, and he hears the
loud clop clomp clump of Kimball's feet as the kid
cop tries to match up. And you know, do you
know how kids sound like when they're running, They sound
like they weigh you know, like a thousand pounds, Like
a little twenty pound kid can sound like an elephant
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when they're running around. Well, imagine that same sort of
heavy footed run, except this time it's HERTLD. Schwarzenegger. So
it's amazing that the building doesn't just collapse in on itself.
Well anyway, the clapping eventually fades away, and Spector looks
around and he's in an empty room. It's an apartment
that it doesn't have any furniture or anything, and it's
just a vacant apartment. So he slides to the floor
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trying to catch his breath, and his eyes slipped shut,
and we have a sudden lighting change. It goes from
bright to dark, and we realized that Spector fell asleep
and slept through the day and now it's nighttime. And
he gets up and he says, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no,
not now, but it's no use. He transforms into the
moon Night Vigilante with somewhat inconsistent powers because it kind
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of depends on who's writing the story. And the moon
Night ventures out the apartment, silently stalking through the building,
making his way all the way up to the rooftop,
and there he is, silhouetted against the moon itself, a cloaked,
shadowy figure all dressed in white, and he hears the
sound of a struggle, so he quickly makes his way
to a blind alley where a group of thugs are
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surrounding an old Wineo and the elderly wine No seems harmless,
but the brutes all appear determined to beat the stuffing
out of him. So the Moonnight suddenly drops into the
middle of the group, and then he sees what it
was all along. It was a trap. Yes, Kimball has
managed to convince his fellow kindergarten students to help him
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lure moon Night into an ambush. Too late, the Moonnight
sees that the assailants are not adults. Nope, each one
is two kids in a trench coat, with one kid
sitting on top of the other kid's shoulders, and the
wine No. Well that turns out that's John Kimball on
top of another kid's shoulders, and that kid is flattened
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because again this is Arnold Schwarzenegger standing on top of
an unconscious child. So that kid is out of the
rest of the film. Don't worry, he got well compensated anyway.
The group converges on Moonnight, who then goes into the
spectacular fight scene and kids are tossed left and right,
And sure I could go all edge Lord on this
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and make this a scene where a masked vigilante really
beats the ever Love and stuffing out of a bunch
of kindergarten kids, but instead the kids all fly off
to the side and go we and each of them
lands in a soft pile of garbage or rags or something,
so none of them are actually hurt, but they all
pretend to be knocked unconscious and only occasionally giggled. But
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then Kimball, he's a different story because he's a kid,
but he's played by a very large adult. So we
did a pretty tough fight scene here, but Moonnight is
super capable, so he shakes Kimball makes his escape, and
Kimball stares up into the night sky as Moonnight scrambles
up a fire escape to safety. And then Kimball looks
at his watch and says, oh no, the big cand
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is on the twelve and the little hand is on
the eight. It's passed my bedtime, and he heads off
down the alley. Always see some of the kids kind
of picking themselves up out of the piles of garbage
and stuff because they didn't wait for the director to
yelle cut And that was the best take they got
all night. Okay, so we get back to Specter, who
we see is no longer the moon Night and he's
in his own apartment and he opens up a closet
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which reveals a white suit, not the Moon Night superhero suit,
but an all white business suit complete with a white tie,
and we see him put this on, as well as
a white balaclava style mask with like a moon symbol
on it, and now he is Mr Knight, and Mr
Knight wants to clear mark Specter's name. So C. Kimball
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is after Specter because well, once upon a time, Specter
was a mercenary for hire and he was involved in
some not very nice things, and Specter is suspected in
taking candy from a baby, except it wasn't Specter who
did it. Mr Knight decides he has to find out
who really did take that candy from that bay ev.
But you know, Moon Night fans will already be aware
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that it was the mercenary Raoul Bushman, who was also
responsible for critically injuring Specter, which right to Specter's encounter
with Konsku, a moon god from ancient Egypt. Two values vengeance.
So we have this little flashbag to tells tells Moon
Night's origin story, and then Mr Knight says, all right,
it's just Raoul Mr Saul, so Mr Knight goes on
(52:24):
to track down Raoul Bushman. Kimble, of course, is still
on Mr Knight's trail, Specter's trail, but sometimes he has
to put that on hold because he has to pause
for snaps and snack time and recess. And we get
this cool sequence Mr Knight on the trail of Bushman
and then he changes into Jake Lockley, the cab driver,
and he talks to some various criminal types to get
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more information, and he ultimately tracks down Raoul Bushman. Then
we see Specter change back into the moon Night and
he goes into this big brutal fight with Bushman, and
Bushman is also a skilled mercenary, so he fights back
really well, but moon Night just kind of absorbs a
whole lot of punishment because that's kind of his bag.
And then he ends up hurting Bushman a lot. Like
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we're talking broken limbs left and right, and teeth getting
knocked out and eyes getting galloshed. It is surprisingly violent
for a movie that also features an enormous five year
old cop. Anyway, Bushman is left barely alive writhing in
pain when Kimball runs up the moon Night points at
Bushman and says, this is the man who did the
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bad thing you thought that I had done. Oh, says Kimble, Okay,
sorry about that. And then he puts on a pair
of handcuffs on Bushman, who is making a lot of
like distressing pain noises because the beating was so brutal.
And he does his best to read Bushman his rights,
but that's hard because he's still in kindergarten and he
can't really read very well yet. And then we get
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the credits. But then there's a mid credit scene or
you see Mark Specter sitting on a park bench looking
the worse for wear, and he's clearly distressed by all
those multiple personalities. And then who sits next to him
but Kimball, the cop, who says, bio a juice box,
and then Spector gives him a grin grin, and we
cut to black. The end, I'm going to start by
(54:11):
saying I love it, and then I'm going to say
your writers were inconsistent, because you're Arnold only had an
accent in his final line. I uh so, here's the thing.
Here's the thing. They say that everybody has an Arnold
Schwartzenegger impression. I do not if I do. It is
literally the world's worst. Anyone else in people who have
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never even seen Arnold Schwarzenegger can do a better Arnold
Schwartzenegger impression that I can do. I have accepted that
this is just the truth, and I made the executive
decision that I was not going to do a Schwartzenegger
impression all the way through. I um. I also at
first thought maybe you were doing a kindergarten cop spoof instead.
(54:52):
I don't know, maybe you did. I've never watched the
movie of Kindergarten Cop. Yeah, no, I don't know, not
Kindergarten CA. Sorry, Cop and a half, Cop and a half, Oh,
I haven't. I don't even know what Cop and a
half is. It's like, I think Burt Reynolds is a
cop and he takes an eight year old on as
a partner, but it's an actual eight year old. Uh.
My husband actually got a chance to audition for that role,
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and then they decided they wanted to go with a
different demographic for it, which is totally fine and the
right choice. But back when he was a kid he
was able to audition for it. No, this was this
was just me thinking like, how can I make Kindergarten
Cup interesting. And then because I actually I started working
on one, I got only like a paragraph in, and
I hated where it was going, and I felt like
I had written myself in a corner and that it
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wasn't really funny, Like it was all the bad choices, right.
It's one of those things where you say, I have
made all the wrong choices. So I thought, well, what
can I do instead? And I thought, well, I could
just ignore the brief and not and make it a
literal kindergarten cup, but keep it as Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
absolutely loved it. I thought it was brilliant and I
(55:59):
want to watch this. But like with uh eighties Arnold Schwarzenegger,
I was gonna see, he can't be young, and he
can't be current age. He's gotta be nineteen eighties. So
that's gonna take some some multiverse of madness, yeah, and
and some massive c g I to do that. Um,
but if you out there have an idea of how
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you would mash up Kindergarten cop and Moon Night better
than this, please do right in and tell us, yeah,
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Someday He's going to kick the ball. Jonathan Strickland. I
just learned the moon night doesn't actually moon people. Moon moon.
You can't ask why moon night doesn't moon people. Okay,
well you know what I can ask. I can ask
a question. I can't even explain what made me think
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of this question, Ariel. When you're under the weather, what's
your go to comfort food? Um, mac and cheese. That's
a good answer. It is or cheese, bananas, cheese, bananas.
It's when you take a block of cheddar cheese and
you peel it and you eat it like it's a banana.
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I was like, I was about to I was about
to say, like I'm starting to the thing that your
comfort food is what makes you sick. I mean maybe so.
Originally my comfort food was poor man Shepherd's pie, which
my mom used to make, which is where you put
the mashed potatoes on the bottom, and you cover it
with a layer of ground beef and saute onions, and
then you put regular canned corn and then canned cream
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corn on top of it. So you don't have I don't.
I'm not a big gravy fan, so you don't have
the gravy in there. And it's just really simple and
it's really good and it's really hardy, and that's like
one of my favorite dishes of all time, as simple
as it is, but it makes me sick. So you know,
I have a I can't eat potatoes a cyclical thing.
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I mean, I can't and I don't get a severe
reaction to them, but I have to eat them. I
have to eat it sparingly. So mac and cheese is
my backup, which also means that it's my primary. What
about you, I'm a simple man. I go with the
tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwich combo um typically very
very much a a simple grilled cheese like I'm talking
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like American slice cheese, you know, just because it has
a really good melt factor. I realized that that is
not the best of grilled cheese, as I've had grilled
cheeses that have fancy cheeses in them, and they are
by every definition better. But from comfort food, I go
for the simple, like Kraft American Slice, grilled cheese sandwich,
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Campbell's Tomatoes soup combo. The well. I can't do the
tomato soup, and I used to, like, I throw a
fit in pre school because I had to eat like
tomato soup with elbow noodles in it, and I only
want to eat the noodles and I didn't want to
eat the tomatoes. So at that time, we didn't know
I had an allergy. So I threw kind of a
fit and gotten trouble for it. But American cheese and
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a grilled cheese is the way to go. It's like
a hug. It's it's so like silky and smooth. It's
like a hug in your mouth. For dessert, you've got
to also cut the sandwich on a diagonal, by the way,
I forgot that. I agree, I agree, So you get
the ultimate cheese pull uh for dessert because you know
you have to have your comfort dissert as well. It's
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coffee ice cream, Okay, yeah, I think for me it's
peanut butter ice cream. But okay, let's uh no, no
reason why I was asking that. Cough, cough, covid yuck. Okay,
let's move on. Sorry, still not feeling well. Almost I'm
almost through it. I'm like, one more day and I
get to emerge from isolation. But we've got news to
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cover and you'll be in the future, yes, just just
like whereas by the rest of our lives. Look, I
was segueing into the fact that we're getting a future
rama reboot um again again, Like, okay, the first few
Surama reboot was okay, yeah, I've got thoughts on that.
(04:06):
But also, like I like Futurama, I do, and I
think it's like Simpsons, it's one of the ones that
has more potential for reboot, but like, I don't know,
it's never quite the same. If you look at Animaniacs,
which is one of my favorite cartoons of all times,
and the reboot just did not hit the same notes.
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And I'm worried that the more you reboot Futurama, like
you know, like a clone of a clone of a
clone of a clone, the dumber they get right, right,
It's it's a copy of a copy of a copy,
So a couple of other things we want to mention.
One is that, at least as of the recording of
this podcast, one of the performers, John DiMaggio, who voice Bender,
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is not currently slated to return. He's been having a
contractual disagreement about how much he should be paid. And
I mean this is a thing like voice actors have
been kind of the kicking uh folks in the acting
world for a long time, like like like they don't
get treated with the respect that other types of actors do.
(05:12):
That in fact, to the point where like guilds would
sometimes exclude voice actors from other types of actors, which
is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. So that is still going on. Um,
I imagine they'll work something out, because I cannot fathom
them going with Futurama with a different voice vendor and
that actually working out for them. I mean, they could
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try to get someone who sounds the same way, but
you can always tell one. Generally speaking, voice actors have
kind of this code of ethics where it's not cool
to go after someone else's gig, Like if someone else
has that sort of a contractual falling out, it is
considered sort of taboo to sign up for that so yeah.
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The other thing I want to mention is you talked
about the reboot being kind of just okay. I think
a big part of that was that they spent so
much time making jokes about getting canceled and coming back,
and like they had a lot of jokes that were
directed at Fox in particular, um and essentially saying, yeah,
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you idiots, you you canceled us. And it got to
the point where as I was watching, I was like,
can we just move on and make funny stories because
I'm kind of I get that you're better that your
show got canceled, but this is not entertaining. It might
be therapeutic for you, but it's not entertaining. Yeah, like
you can make one episode about that. Animaniacs did the same,
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like or at least that they had one skin in
their first episode at least, but you know, if you're
going to play that joke super sparingly, yeah, I have
no real segue into our next story. So that's if
you want to watch the Netflix Defender series Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Punisher,
Iron Fist or Luke Cage or the actual Defends, you've
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got to do it this month, this February because afterwards,
it's not gonna be on Netflix anymore. Yeah, the the
contract where they had the agreement on how long it
would stay on Netflix is coming up to being expired.
There's a lot of speculation as to where those series
might end up. It's been reported that Daredevil in particular
(07:23):
has seen like a resurgence in views ever since the
Hawkeye series. Um, I don't know why, Hemp Kingpin and
but yeah, it's it's it's definitely and also Spider Man,
which I still haven't seen, but it has been spoiled
pretty thoroughly for me. But anyway that it's, it's been
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getting popular again, and so there's some real speculation could
end up going to Hulu, could end up going to Disney. Plus,
I've seen a lot of articles that are worded the
headline is worded as if it's definitively going to one
or the other, but I have seen no confirmation on either. Yeah,
I think that wording is probably just to make people click.
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I think so too. It's almost like they're baiting you,
almost almost. But I will be interested to see, you know,
at least we know we're going to get those characters
some more, some of them at least, which is nice.
Um something else I I thought was nice until the
trailer came out for it, and I think it's really nice. Now, Lord,
(08:29):
is the Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers trailer that just
came out the day that we're recording this. It's the
one with John mulaney is Chip and Andy Samberg is Dale.
And it is not at all what I expected. And
the trailer is so bon curse. It is very weird.
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It has um, it has has it's a mixture of
live action and animation, which we knew was going to
happen going in. We knew that was going to be
the case. But you thought it was going to be
like like the Chipmunks with like c G I chipmunks
and like Alvin Simon Theodore Chipmunks, chipmunks and real people.
You get half of that, one of the two. One
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of the two is c G I because he got
the c G I surgery. Yeah. So this new story,
from what little I can gather from the trailer, because
there's the story might have a wonderful through line in
It might have a wonderful story, but I can't tell
from the trailer. There's just so much packed into it.
That's just like makes you go, what in the world.
(09:37):
So Chip and Dale are are kind of past their prime. Uh,
Chip is a like insurance salesman or something, and Dale
is running the convention circuit. Chip is still in two
D Dale's and three D. And then they have to
rescue somebody. Um, and then there's like all kinds of cartoons,
all kinds of real life. It's a very like Roger
(09:58):
Rabbit kind of the world where Pete Bowl and cartoons
lived together and c g I and like, yeah, no,
it's it's it's all sorts of weird. And there's a
lot of meta jokes. Yeah did you happen to see
I'm sure you did. I mean, I don't know how
you couldn't. Uh did you happen to see mc scat
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cat and Paula Abduel in the background in one of
those sequences? I did. I did not know Disney owned
mc scat cat. I don't know that they did, but
they might have licensed him, but ye might have mc
scat cat from two steps forward, two steps back with
the Baula Abdul song shows up, as does Roger Rabbit,
and then My Little Ponies and the cats from Cats,
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but they're the bad c g I version. Yeah, yeah,
as in the Cats from the recent film adaptation of
the musical Cats. Uh, it is truly bizarre. Like I
it is the weirdesting I think I would have ever
noticed or ever seen from Disney. And I mean it's
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because they partnered with a lonely island folks when they this,
which is like when you think about how protective Disney
is of its I P. It is absolutely insane to
see this. Yes, yeah, I don't know if it's going
to be good, but I know I'm going to have
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to watch it. Yeah, yeah, same, I don't I don't
know that I like it as of right now because
I just don't understand so much of it. I like
one little part and there's a little c g I
mouse that's addicted to cheese and he's like, more please
in a cartoon mouse feeds some cheese and he says
more please. In a cartoon, mouse feeds some cheese. And
that moment is adorable and horrible and I like that moment.
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It's given me ready player one vibes in a way.
You know, that's sort of like let's throw or space jam.
The most recent space jam leists throw every single reference
we can at this one movie, and knowing the people
who are behind it, I would expect that this would
come across more as a spoof of that, like they're
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making fun of that, as opposed to them trying to
create their own version of that, which is part of
why I'm interested. Yeah, I know. Originally, when this movie
was announced and like the casting was up on IMDb,
like the minimal casting, my my friend and my niece
and nephews were upset that there wasn't a Monty or
Zipper or gadget. But there are. There is a Monty
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in a zipper. We know at least um from this trailer.
No Gadget can be seen, but maybe they have to
rescue her. And that's how we found out, thank you Gizmoto,
that there is also a gadget cult in Russia. Yeah,
I did not know that until I read that article.
So bizarre, so bizarre. The world is so much stranger
than any bizarre movie with a three D chipmunk and
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a two D chipmunk teeming up could could make you
believe that's true. I guess just have to go to
outer space for some normalcy. Yes, we are just as
we were about to go to record it. This we
saw the notification that there is going to be another
Star Trek film in the Abrams universe of Star Trek films.
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So we had Star Trek Beyond, which a lot of
people just assume was going to be the third and
final film in a trilogy with Chris pine As as
Captain Kirk and you know, uh, you know, Simon peg
As as Scottie and all that, but all the surviving
cast members are going to come back and do a
fourth movie. Yeah, it's it's hard to hear surviving members. Well,
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I know, I it's hard for me to talk about
because he was an incredibly talented actor. Yeah. Yeah, um,
I do like that Matt Shakeman is directing. He did
want a vision Shackman, not shank Chackman. Um, because I
feel like One Division had the kind of moral and
emotional bent that would play really well in Star Trek.
(14:05):
Not that that's all he can do, but but we
need sensibilities. Yeah, because One Division, like to this day,
One Division is still one of those shows that I
think had one of the deepest emotional gut punches for me,
one that is currently very relevant in uh in our
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lives not to get into it, but like, there were
messages in one division that I felt were really powerful
and it made you forget that they were being delivered
from comic book characters. So I agree. I think that
this could be something that you know, we could see
some real emotional resonance in this Star Trek film as
well as it'll be you know, thrilling and exciting and
(14:49):
all that as well. Yeah, yeah, I actually I really
liked the first I didn't mind the second. Uh, I
really like the third as well, which I know you
have not seen so excited. I haven't seen Star Trek
on I did not like Into Darkness. I was pretty
vocal about that. The second one of the first second one,
that's that's the that's the Return of Con. Listen. It's
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following the old Star Trek movie trope, which is every
other one is good and every other one is The
old trope was that the even ones were good. Well
that number two, number two was the one that you
didn't like. So I'm saying that the even ones were
good in the original one, see because Wrath of Con
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was too and then Search for Spot was three, but
Voyage Home was four, but then Final Frontier was five. Listen.
You know I watched them at a period of time
where I had very little like refined taste, and I
enjoyed most of them. I understand. It was back when
Griel wasn't able to count. Okay, we're gonna go to
commercial break. I'm kidding, Garril, I'm kidding. I may I
(15:54):
may not come back. Hey, Twitter fans who were talking
about us getting spicy on Twitter, it's happening again. Tell
you what's going to happen in the commercial break will
be all love e W when you come back. Okay,
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we uh we made up during the commercial break of
nothing like a little consumerism to really bring people back together.
And speaking of consumerism, we're now going to talk about
some of the geek themed commercials that were in the
superb Owl. Yes, so I watched the game and Jonathan
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did not. There were a lot. There are a lot
of what I would say would be geek themed commercials
in there. Also a lot of cryptocurrency commercials. Yeah yeah,
including the coin base one where they had the QR
code up on screen and it crashed their app, which
which two people. I only had a couple of people
over that have been in my bubble. Um, we all
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knew we were not Covidy before they came over, but
two of them scanned the QR code. One of them refused, um,
and I let them tell me what it was. I
followed the story of the commercials using a live blog
that only told me about the commercials and had nothing
about the game itself, which is fine. I am not
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a well and you know, I had an incredible ending.
I understand that I don't care about the Kitty Cats
versus the Horny Goats, so I didn't really watch it.
But um again, I'm making light of it. But that's
because like, it's just not my passion. I totally respect
people who love sports. That's great. I'm glad that's your thing,
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and I hope that you took a great amount of
enjoyment if you were a fan of the Kitty Cats.
I'm sorry. But yeah, Well, we wanted to talk about
some of the trailers that came out. Yeah, real quick,
Before we do that, I want to say, because you
didn't watch them, you followed the blog, you missed many
of the commercial ski here not had a really good music,
like something I noticed exceptional music. I actually watched the
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commercials that because I watched the they had the YouTube videos.
But I will say also there were different versions that
were on YouTube versus the ones that were actually during
the game. The first one we're going to talk about
is the trailer for Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness,
and that one had two different, slightly different versions. The
one in the game was different from the one that
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they actually put up on YouTube. But boy, howdy did
they give us a lot in that one. Yes. Uh.
I First of all, I am glad that it's so
prominently featuring Wanda yes Um Scarlet Witch, and I love
there's this great moment where she is talking about how
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when he breaks the rules, when Doctor Strange breaks the rules,
he's considered a hero. When she breaks the rules, she's
a villain, and she says it doesn't seem fair, and
I'm like, there's it's like shelling the way she delivers
that line, because it's just so matter of fact and
like Elizabeth Olsen is a phenomenal actress, which I really
didn't appreciate until one division. But boy, I loved the
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little bits we got to see in this trailer. Yeah,
this movie is going to be so bizarre that. I
think she's really going to bring a super grounded perspective
to it, which I considering the subject matter, which I like. Um,
I'm also very excited that in the trailer you can
see that there is evil Doctor Strange, which we got
in the what If series. Yeah, there's actually I think
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a lot of what If is bleeding into this because
not only was their sinister Strange, which yes, please let
Benedict Cumberbatch and go go off the rails please, there
looked like there could be some zombie stuff going on.
It looked like that's a possibility. It looks like Captain Carter.
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Isn't this Captain Carter. That's Peggy Carter as Captain America,
So she's Captain. I saw that, but I missed it
in the trailer. Okay, So in the trailer there's a
sequence where we see doctor Strange being led to stand
in front of a group of people. Uh, there four
Ultron robots that are leading in there. That already was crazy.
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They see Ultron again, or at least the Ultron bots again,
and what it appears to be the Illuminati. In Marvel Comics,
the Illuminati is a group of of characters who together
try to protect all of reality and Doctor Strange usually
as a member of the Illuminati, as is uh the
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Black Bolt, and Iron Man has often one as well. Well.
If you look at the silhouettes on the diet, which
is hard to make out, one of them appears to
I think be Captain Carr, the one sitting down. Um,
I think Morda is one of the other ones. Uh, yeah,
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it's also. But the big news, obviously is that there's
a familiar voice that rings out and a little bit
of a hint of a silhouette from behind it, and
it's Jonathan Strickland that yeah, well, I mean same haircut,
but no, it is it is Captain McCard. No, I'm sorry,
it's Professor X. It is. It'll be good to see
(21:29):
him in something after Logan because that was so sad. Yeah,
I love this trailer. Here's the thing, you know what
this trailer made me think of Ariel. Do you remember
way back in the day when there was that fan
film that was presented as a trailer that was Grayson
supposed to be the story of Robin. That's the feeling
(21:51):
I got walking away after the first time I saw
Grayson was that looked amazing and then on second thought,
I was like, how would you actually fit all of
that plot into a single movie. That's the feeling I'm
getting with this trailer. Yes, I completely agree um something
and maybe I just missed it that I was surprised
not to see in it because we knew that back
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and not that plans can't change. We knew back in
the day that she would tell Afo was going to
be kind of the villain of this series of this movie.
That's what they said way back when I might have changed.
We see him, we don't see King the Conqueror. I
don't think. I think I think we're not going to
see Kang again until Quantum Mania, the next ant Man movie.
(22:33):
I think that's when we're going to see him next. Um. Yeah.
So there's like there's so many different opportunities to see
interesting stuff, Like I still I'm still hoping to see
alternate versions of heroes and maybe two of the same
hero played by two different actors, just from other Marvel franchises.
I mean Human Torch. We would get to see Chris
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Evans again, but I mean Captain America. Yeah, I was
gonna say we could get Keptain America and Human Torch.
But now that he won't come back Captain America, he
could get three different human torches if they really wanted.
But no one ever acknowledges the Roger Corman film. I
mean that one I'm fine with. It's the latest one
that I'm like. But yeah, but then you could also
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have kill Monger and human human torch going face to face.
That's true. Okay, that's okay, that makes it exciting again.
I mean anyhow, I'm excited for this. Uh. Sam Raimid
tends to make really fun movies. Um so yeah, so
we have other trailers we should chat about very quickly.
We spent way more time on Dr Strange than I anticipated.
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There was so much. We we have a little bit
of time. Yeah, we saw nope, um the next Jordan
Peel suspense horror sci fi film. This one's an alien film. Uh.
It was just enough to intrigue me. And I love
the soundtrack. Yes, I love the soundtrack. There's still a
lot of like what much like Chip and Dale or
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Multiverse of Madness, A lot of like what what exactly
is going on here? There's an awful lot of genres.
It feels like in this one movie. Um, they say
never read the comments, but I read the comments under
the YouTube trailer and someone said, man, Jordan Keele has
a really good way of putting horror into comedy and
I or vice versa, and I really really agree. I
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thought that this the trailer had a really good um
balance of everything that it put into it. Yeah, and
I think those are the movies that I find the
most intriguing, right Like, there are a lot of horror
movies that attempt to have some comedy in them and
kind of fail. There's some that will surprise you, Like
(24:41):
there was the Friday the Thirteenth reboot from a few
years ago that had some I wouldn't say alright comedy,
but definitely humor in it, and to me, it totally worked.
I was like, I I was surprised at how entertained
I was by a movie. Nope, looks like it's gonna
be really interesting. I'm curious. I'm curious what sort of
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because with Jordan Peel you start to expect it, you
start to expect some sort of deeper commentary as part
of it. And I'm very curious to see what that
deeper commentary might be in this full me too. Two
other quick things about it before we move on to
the next trailer one. I was very much getting like
welcome to night Vale glow Cloud vibes from it. I
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feel like, uh, nobody, nobody in my close social circle,
like my husband as in, like the person I live
with and see every day, he's never listened to Nightvale.
He doesn't know, so like I've got to night Vell
posters up behind me on the wall. So I've just
been waiting to say that and then too. I also,
with that same group of very small people that came
(25:44):
over for Super Bowl, we watched Color out of Space
because my friend is the Nicolas Cage version because my
friend is a huge Lovecraft horror esque fan, which one
uh watching next to the Nope trailer. See there are
some similarities between the two. Um and to that movie
is really scary and really disturbing. I'll have to check
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it out. I haven't seen that, and I've seen Mandy,
but I haven't seen Color out of Space. There was
a trailer for Mandy at the beginning of it. Boy,
Mandy is a heck of a ride. Look, I watched
Dagon and that was ridiculous, so I could I could
enjoy the one This one. This one is not as ridiculous.
This one, I would say is a better quality movie
and not as fun. But again, unless you're a really big,
(26:27):
like creepy, disturbing horror fan, wouldn't recommend it. Well. Next up,
we saw a trailer for The Rings of Power, the
Lord of the Rings series on Amazon, which I am
told is going to feature four main storylines and see
if I can remember them. One is like the coming
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of age of l Rond, because this is when l
Rond is much younger. It's the Second Age. Lord of
the Rings in Hobbit take place in the third Age,
so which in an age last thousands of years. So
one is the coming of age of el Rond essentially.
One is the rise of Sauron, back when he was
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still like a physical entity before he became the flat
sexy magicians. One is a glad Reel story when she
was like warrior queen type of character. And then one
is the last alliance of elves and men, which is
sort of the final stand at the end of the
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second Age. This is what we saw the We saw
a bit of that in the prologue to Lurd of
the Rings. That's when a selder cuts the ring off
of Sauron's hand that's at the end of one of
the climatic battles in the Last Alliance of Elves and Ments.
That's gonna be part of it. Um, I guess. Actually
technically then there's also the rise and fall of New Menoir,
(27:51):
which is an island that doesn't exist by the time
Lord of the Rings is taking place, but is where
like uh Arragorn's ancestry dates too. Yeah. So so Game
of Thrones and Wheel of Time both have this issue
with me where there's so many characters and there's so
much going on it's hard for me to follow. Um.
I'm a little more familiar with Lord of the Lord
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of the Rings history, so it'll be easier for me
for me to follow. But despite despite my issues with
other series in that sort of format, I am actually
really looking forward to this. I thought it looked so
pretty and it excited me, and I want to know
the things that they were showing me. So yeah. Finding
a little side note, this was not part of the
big game commercials, but we also learned of an animated
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Lord of the Rings movie that's supposed to come out
in four The War of rohre Um so I think
we talked about that on a previous episode. Did we
don't think I had even heard of it before, but
if we didn't, I at least put it in our
show notes. But it is recent news. Yeah, So that's
that's gonna come out in a couple of years. Uh,
and we'll that'll deal with stuff that happened earlier in
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the third age, so it'll be between the stuff we
see in the Rings of Power and the Lord of
the Rings movies. And then we had a little trailer
of various Netflix projects that are coming out in the
near future, including Knives Out Too, which is the one
I'm most excited about seeing. I'm excited about that. There's
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a movie called Slumberland, which is one thousand percent a
child's movie, I think, But um, I say one, I think,
good talking aerial but it's got Jason Momoa and it
and they show it's the movie they show the least
amount of and it was the most visually intriguing to me.
It's it's got like a dude with horns on a
(29:38):
flying carpet with a kid um. And then the Adam Project,
which is done by Brian Reynolds and the Free Guy crew,
and is adult Ryan Reynolds and kid Ryan Reynolds with spaceships.
So it made me think of Free Guy Meets Meet
the Robinson's Flight of the Navigator a little bit. Yeah. Yeah,
(29:59):
so that was interesting too. We'll definitely be talking more
about those projects as time goes on. But speaking of
time going on, it is time for us to take
another break, and when we come back, we're going to
talk about a couple of other commercials that played at
the superb Owl, a bit of sad news and how
that leads into our mashup for this week. But first
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these messages. Okay, more commercial. Yeah, we've taken back from
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commercials to talk about the things. Yes, the first of
which is the Moon Night uh commercial, which it was okay, Yeah,
it gave us a little It honestly just felt like
kind of an alternative trade alert to the one we
had already seen. Yeah, it didn't make me more interested
(31:03):
in the property. I'm gonna watch it because Oscar Isaac
and Ethan Hawk, although it's interesting to me that they're
spending so much time on Ethan, like showing Ethan Hawk
in the show because from my research for our mash up,
because it's Jonathan I have said previously, we are not
we're not Moonnight s one of our mash up properties.
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Neither of us is like incredibly familiar with the property,
even though I have some Moonnight comics right behind me. Um.
But his character I think is super minor in the comics.
But also from why I understand we get an explanation,
or we will get an explanation for that absolutely atrocious
Cockney accent that Oscar Isaac is using, because it may
(31:47):
be that that's one of we've mentioned this before that
the character, uh, it's associative identity disorder, right, Mark Spector
has dissociative identity disorder and has multiple personnalities, and the
chance is that one of those is one that has
this accent and it's not the quote unquote true personality,
(32:08):
which would make sense because if you know the background
to Mark Specter, the character that you see on screen
doesn't even remotely resemble that character. So we'll talk about
that more, i'm sure in the mashups. But then another
bit was that we had talked about how Arnold Schwarzenegger
had shown up on a poster where he's Zeus and
we had guessed that that was probably a reference to
(32:30):
a commercial that we played during the Super Bowl, But um,
I think at the time I thought it was going
to be a beer commercial. It turns out it's not.
It was for an electric BMW vehicle commercial. Yeah, which
I guess makes more sense. I also thought there because
it's kind of got that Budweiser blue going on in
the picture. Um, it also had summahiak and I had
(32:53):
them singing a terrible like singing along to Electric Avenue
and yeah, and it was horrible. It was okay, it
was maybe a cute concept and way more highly produced
than it needed to be. It wasn't funny enough. I
feel too warrant the budget spent on it, because Super
(33:14):
Bowl commercials are very expensive. I have to say, though,
thanks to meta slash Facebook, it was by no means
the worst commercial show during the Yeah, that was scary. Yeah,
the metal one was terrible. But anyway, so that there
was that, and then the Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to
play a part in our mashup. But the other bit
of news, the sad bit of news, is that Ivan
(33:37):
Reitman passed away. Ivan Rightman was a director who directed
lots of of great films, including Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters,
but he also directed a little film called Kindergarten Cop. Yes,
and so Kindergarten Cop, because we've done Ghostbusters recently, will
be the other property in our mashup. So which do
(33:58):
you want to explain, John, Then I'm hoping it's Moonnight. Okay,
I'll explain moon Night. Sure, Sure, Okay. So here's here's
the here's what you need to know about Moonnight if
you're going with the broad canon, because just like with
any comic book character, lots of different writers have written
for Moonnight, and when different writers write for a character,
(34:18):
sometimes they change, like sometimes their powers change. So Moonnight
in general doesn't really have superpowers. Uh. The character is
Mark Specter, who was a former marine who then becomes
a mercenary. He has his own code of ethics and morality,
(34:39):
and when he's pushed really hard to break that, he
gets into an altercation with a fellow mercenary. He's left
for dead. He has brought to a statue of an
ancient Egyptian god of the moon and of vengeance. The
god resuscitates him and he is now the god's uh emmissary.
He's the vessel the the instrument of vengeance for this god. However,
(35:04):
it might just be that he's crazy, that this near
death experience drove him insane, and that he believes that
he has this Egyptian god telling him what to do.
He also has a couple of other personalities that he
uses on occasion. One of them is a taxicab driver.
They're called altars alters um important. Well, he's one of
(35:26):
them is a taxicab driver. Another one is a a
a masked suited character called Mr Knight, who is not
like a punch him up, beat him up of hero
like Moon Night is, but is more of like a detective. Um.
He's also got one that's like a billionaire playboy called
(35:47):
Stephen Grant. And I think that people are assuming that
the character we're seeing in the Moon Night trailers is
supposed to be the Stephen Grant personality, who is not
a billionaire in this version, but is rather a peon
working for a company. See I would have thought that
it was the Jake Lockley Cabby Um Cabby personality. Yeah,
(36:09):
but uh, Moon Night's kind of like Batman, except he
hurts people way more than Batman typically does. Yeah. Yeah,
And in the TV show Arthur Harrow, which is who
Ethan Hawk is playing, actually does amplify some of moon
Night's more like legitimate powers like a super intelligence and
(36:30):
and like physical things. Yeah, so he he doesn't he
can't fly or anything like that. He has very strong,
very smart, very agile. Uh tends to use a lot
of different like gadgets too, which is again he gets
he gets compared with Batman a lot. He does. I mean,
(36:50):
he does have some physical powers depending on where you
where you go into things. Um. Also he's very violent, yes,
very like I said, he MUTI lates like he doesn't
just beat him up. And at one point in time
he took up boxing. Okay, Um, just like adding little
things that are important for you for my own yes, okay,
(37:14):
I'm sure it still won't because I took what I
knew with what my husband knew, with what the Internet
told me. Um. And that's always a recipe for a
glorious cake. Okay. Uh. So Kindergarten Cop is a story
where Arnold Schwarzenegger is a cop and he's trying to
take down like this drug lord and he's able to
(37:36):
do it, but he really needs a witness to make
sure that this guy actually gets booked with his charges
and goes to jail and all that stuff. Um, And
so he he targets the drug lord's wife for that. Um.
He thinks that the wife has taken money from the
drug lord and the drug lord is after her, and
so he goes to Oregon with his partner to like
(38:00):
look her down and offer her immunity in exchange for
her testimony against her ex husband. Um. And to do that,
he and his partner become well, his partner becomes as teacher.
She used to be a teacher before she was a cop.
She gets sick, he takes over. He's not really teacher material,
but the kids love him anyhow, and he brings like
a ferret in and uh. Like there are lots of
(38:23):
lots of great lines from Kindergarten. Copy my favorite, I
don't think I can it's not a tumor, or I'm
the party pooper. Um, this is what I'm gonna do
to you, which he says to a kid who won't
be quiet, and he snaps a pencil in front of
it and then like my favorite line, I don't know
if I can say it on this podcast, which is
(38:43):
boys have um boy parts and girls have girl parts. Um,
I don't know, can I can I say those words?
You can see, Okay, boys have penises and girls have vaginas. Um,
you know just what a kid just just free. So
kids are kindergarten kids and it's hilarious. Right. So the whole,
the whole thing is that, of course he's trying to
(39:05):
track down where the mom is, and he's also having
to pose undercover as this teacher, and he did not
account for the fact that that means he's actually going
to have to deal with these kids. And it ends
up being this very silly, very warmhearted kind of comedy
that also still managed steff Arnold Schwarzenegger acting all action
(39:27):
hero e. Yeah, because the drugg Lord does find the parent,
he comes, he shoots up to school, he shoots up
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Um, you know, Arnold falls for the mom,
finds out that she's actually the person he's been looking for,
and then she gets mad because he's lied about who
he is. It's it's the whole action intrigued thing. But
it's it's very fun. It's a lot of fun. It's
it's heartwarming. So so we're now going to do our
(39:51):
mashups and Ariel. I'm going to demand you do yours first, okay.
Uh So I picked two titles in case one of
your titles is the same as mine. Uh So this
is Kindergarten, Knight or moon Moon. You forgot how to night?
Mark Specter x Marine, x Boxer x c I A
now cop finally did it. He had long suspected the
(40:11):
notorious Raoul Bushman, horrible person who he had fought in
his former careers, was somewhere in America operating a drug
and gambling ring. And then one day Mark cott Bushman
trying to order a hit on his ex wife Joyce Lockley.
That's a play on Jake Lockley, okay. But to make
sure that Bushman would stay behind bars, Mark Spector had
to seek out Joyce to testify against him. So Mark
(40:34):
and his partner, Marlene Marlene is also his girlfriend in
the comics, traveled to small town, Oregon, where they thought
Joyce was hiding out. When they got there, they found
out that Joyce had a kid, a little red haired girl.
That was the reason she had left Bushman, and Bushman
was after the child, so Mark and his partner went
undercover as school teachers Marlene under the name Phoebe and
Mark under the name Stephen Grant Kimball to try to
(40:56):
get close to the kid and also the mom. Marlene
took to the VOT teaching like a duck in water. However,
Mark was not prepared to be a teacher. He was
rough and strict with the kids and even threatened violence
on a couple of abusive parents, which was well intentioned
but unacceptable within the school system. Nonetheless, but the kids
adored Mr Steve, and Mr Steve adored them. He would
do things like teach them how to punch tumbles, speak
(41:18):
other languages, which you know the kids were only did
so well because they were kindergarteners after all, and the
kids would equally enriched Mr Steve's life with bacsab learned
about life, like the differences between princesses and police officers,
their parents, marital relations, and the anatomical difference between boys
and girls. It took some adjusting, but Steve began to
love his teaching job. But Mr Steve was closest of
(41:40):
all with that little red haired girl, often spending time
together on the swing set during recess. He felt like
she made him closer with his inner child. Then one
day the worst happened. Bushman got off trial and out
of jail and on a technicality and came for his
wayward family. Mr Steve came out to Joyce in the
Child about who he really was, Mark Spector, saying that
(42:00):
if they helped him, he would keep them safe, and
as expected, Bushman came to the school to get the
girl and kill his ex wife Mark Slash. Mr Steve
got shot multiple times and fell to the ground, but
not before getting a shot out on Bushman himself, and
then he felt someone shaking him Marked In. When Mark
opened his eyes, he was on the swing set with
the little red haired girl, who said enough fun, time
to get back out there and fight real crime. Mark
(42:23):
Spector looked confused, but then Joyce Lockley turned into Jake
Lockly and moon Night realized he was in a mental
meeting with his altars, not in small town, Oregon, and
the little red haired girl was actually his inner child,
and she yelled at him to wake up and smacked
him in the face. When he woke up, he was
laying on the couch. Marlene ull Rain his on again,
off again Paramore and grounding Forest standing above him. Come
(42:46):
on We've got a lead on Bushman. The West Coast
Avengers are waiting for you, she said. As moon Night
got up, he said, man, I had the weirdest dream,
and I mean weird for me. That's the last time
I watched eighties movies while I nap. Also, do you
think I'd make a good teacher? Marley and gave him
a confused look as he changed to Moonnight and they
left out to meet the team the end. So moon
(43:09):
Night does actually have a little red haired girl that
he'll have meetings with his altars in his mind, at
least in the ultimate universe. And there's a little red
haired girl in there that's his that's referred to as
his inner child and might actually be the god that
revived him. So yeah, and that's what Again. One of
the things we were chatting about earlier is that depending
on who's writing the comic, you get these different takes.
(43:31):
So like Mr Knight will play a part in mine,
but it is not in every version of Moonnight. Um.
And also like there are other ones to like, there
are writers who had have it where moon Night's strength
grows or wanes along with the the phases of the
moon But that's not always the case. Um, mine is
(43:55):
long enough where I think we're probably going to need
to take a quick break. Okay, Ariel, are you prepared
for the thing I'm about to do? I look, I
(44:17):
pretty much just gave you kindergarten cop with some name
changed out mine mine. Okay, I cheated. I'm just gonna
say that right out front. I cheated. I am not
I don't regret cheating that I have cheated. Mine is
called Moon Night and the kindergarten Cop. And here we go.
Mark Specter has a problem. For one thing, he has
(44:40):
dissociative personality disorder, and a lot of folks keep misidentifying
it a schizophrenia, which is something else entirely. For another,
mysterious forces outside the borders of space and time have
infused Specter with incredible strength and agility, turning him into
the Moon Night. But he's losing himself in the process.
But perhaps worst of all, he forever being pursued by
(45:01):
John Kimball, a cop, a cop in kindergarten. Yes, Kimball
is five years old and he's on Specter's ass. Oh
and and John Kimball is five years old and he's
an l A p D. Detective and he's also played
by Arnold Schwarzenegger that everyone behaves like. This is a
regular five year old kid who happens to also be
(45:24):
a cop. It's a really high concept idea and I
think it's gonna test incredibly well with audiences. Anyway, we
joined the story in progress as Mark Specter is making
his way through a major city, which one I don't
really care. We see him shrugging on a coat and
putting on a hat and jumping into a cab, a
(45:45):
cab that's driven by Mark Specter. Yes, Specter is having
a dissociative episode in which he sees himself in his
guys as Jake Lockley, a cab driver behind the wheel,
while another of his identities, Stephen Grant, is the passenger.
But then keep in mind, Stephen Grant in this case
is the Mark Specter we've been following, and he's in
(46:05):
the back seat, and we zoom in on Specter's eyes
up the passenger, Mark Spector the Steven Grant version, and
those eyes are framed by sweaty brows as he tries
to will himself back into reality, and he does, and
he sees that behind the wheel is just a nondescript
cab driver looking at him and say, come on, Pal,
where's it you want to go? And Spector mumbles a
(46:26):
destination in a really unconvincing Cockney accent. But it's not
important where we're going, so again I don't really care.
The cabby gets ready to pull into traffic, when suddenly
the back door opens again and a small hand reaches
into the cab and grabs Specter's coat at the shoulder
and hauls Specter out, and we cut and now we
see Specter held up on the sidewalk above the sidewalk
(46:48):
by Arnold Schwarzenegger. So the small hand was like a
stand in because Arnold wasn't available that day. And now
he's holding up Mark Spector over the ground and he says, gotcha,
says Kimball, And remember that's Arlo Schwarzenegger. Okay, the cop
who is in kindergarten. Now you're coming with me to
answer for your crime. You're looking at a tough sentence, Pal,
(47:08):
you're headed to time out in Specter, feeling his heart race,
immediately lifts his arms over his head and slides out
of his coat, hitting the ground and then dashing off.
Poop sickles, yells Kimball, throwing the coat to the side
and taking chase, and we get this cool foot chase
sequence where Specter is making his way through a crowded sidewalk,
(47:30):
you know, ducking down alleys and stuff, and Kimball is
close behind, running like an enormous kid and yelling stop
in the name of the law, and Specter ducks into
a building. He runs up a set of stairs, and
he's trying different doors as he's running down hallways and stuff,
but they're all locked until at the third floor he
finds a door that's open, and he dashes in and
he closes the door behind him and he locks it,
(47:52):
and he is really really quiet, and he hears the
loud clop clomp clump of Kimball's feet as the kid
cop tries to match up. And you know, do you
know how kids sound like when they're running, They sound
like they weigh you know, like a thousand pounds, Like
a little twenty pound kid can sound like an elephant
(48:12):
when they're running around. Well, imagine that same sort of
heavy footed run, except this time it's HERTLD. Schwarzenegger. So
it's amazing that the building doesn't just collapse in on itself.
Well anyway, the clapping eventually fades away, and Spector looks
around and he's in an empty room. It's an apartment
that it doesn't have any furniture or anything, and it's
just a vacant apartment. So he slides to the floor
(48:34):
trying to catch his breath, and his eyes slipped shut,
and we have a sudden lighting change. It goes from
bright to dark, and we realized that Spector fell asleep
and slept through the day and now it's nighttime. And
he gets up and he says, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no,
not now, but it's no use. He transforms into the
moon Night Vigilante with somewhat inconsistent powers because it kind
(48:56):
of depends on who's writing the story. And the moon
Night ventures out the apartment, silently stalking through the building,
making his way all the way up to the rooftop,
and there he is, silhouetted against the moon itself, a cloaked,
shadowy figure all dressed in white, and he hears the
sound of a struggle, so he quickly makes his way
to a blind alley where a group of thugs are
(49:17):
surrounding an old Wineo and the elderly wine No seems harmless,
but the brutes all appear determined to beat the stuffing
out of him. So the Moonnight suddenly drops into the
middle of the group, and then he sees what it
was all along. It was a trap. Yes, Kimball has
managed to convince his fellow kindergarten students to help him
(49:37):
lure moon Night into an ambush. Too late, the Moonnight
sees that the assailants are not adults. Nope, each one
is two kids in a trench coat, with one kid
sitting on top of the other kid's shoulders, and the
wine No. Well that turns out that's John Kimball on
top of another kid's shoulders, and that kid is flattened
(49:57):
because again this is Arnold Schwarzenegger standing on top of
an unconscious child. So that kid is out of the
rest of the film. Don't worry, he got well compensated anyway.
The group converges on Moonnight, who then goes into the
spectacular fight scene and kids are tossed left and right,
And sure I could go all edge Lord on this
(50:18):
and make this a scene where a masked vigilante really
beats the ever Love and stuffing out of a bunch
of kindergarten kids, but instead the kids all fly off
to the side and go we and each of them
lands in a soft pile of garbage or rags or something,
so none of them are actually hurt, but they all
pretend to be knocked unconscious and only occasionally giggled. But
(50:39):
then Kimball, he's a different story because he's a kid,
but he's played by a very large adult. So we
did a pretty tough fight scene here, but Moonnight is
super capable, so he shakes Kimball makes his escape, and
Kimball stares up into the night sky as Moonnight scrambles
up a fire escape to safety. And then Kimball looks
at his watch and says, oh no, the big cand
(51:00):
is on the twelve and the little hand is on
the eight. It's passed my bedtime, and he heads off
down the alley. Always see some of the kids kind
of picking themselves up out of the piles of garbage
and stuff because they didn't wait for the director to
yelle cut And that was the best take they got
all night. Okay, so we get back to Specter, who
we see is no longer the moon Night and he's
in his own apartment and he opens up a closet
(51:21):
which reveals a white suit, not the Moon Night superhero suit,
but an all white business suit complete with a white tie,
and we see him put this on, as well as
a white balaclava style mask with like a moon symbol
on it, and now he is Mr Knight, and Mr
Knight wants to clear mark Specter's name. So C. Kimball
(51:42):
is after Specter because well, once upon a time, Specter
was a mercenary for hire and he was involved in
some not very nice things, and Specter is suspected in
taking candy from a baby, except it wasn't Specter who
did it. Mr Knight decides he has to find out
who really did take that candy from that bay ev.
But you know, Moon Night fans will already be aware
(52:03):
that it was the mercenary Raoul Bushman, who was also
responsible for critically injuring Specter, which right to Specter's encounter
with Konsku, a moon god from ancient Egypt. Two values vengeance.
So we have this little flashbag to tells tells Moon
Night's origin story, and then Mr Knight says, all right,
it's just Raoul Mr Saul, so Mr Knight goes on
(52:24):
to track down Raoul Bushman. Kimble, of course, is still
on Mr Knight's trail, Specter's trail, but sometimes he has
to put that on hold because he has to pause
for snaps and snack time and recess. And we get
this cool sequence Mr Knight on the trail of Bushman
and then he changes into Jake Lockley, the cab driver,
and he talks to some various criminal types to get
(52:45):
more information, and he ultimately tracks down Raoul Bushman. Then
we see Specter change back into the moon Night and
he goes into this big brutal fight with Bushman, and
Bushman is also a skilled mercenary, so he fights back
really well, but moon Night just kind of absorbs a
whole lot of punishment because that's kind of his bag.
And then he ends up hurting Bushman a lot. Like
(53:07):
we're talking broken limbs left and right, and teeth getting
knocked out and eyes getting galloshed. It is surprisingly violent
for a movie that also features an enormous five year
old cop. Anyway, Bushman is left barely alive writhing in
pain when Kimball runs up the moon Night points at
Bushman and says, this is the man who did the
(53:28):
bad thing you thought that I had done. Oh, says Kimble, Okay,
sorry about that. And then he puts on a pair
of handcuffs on Bushman, who is making a lot of
like distressing pain noises because the beating was so brutal.
And he does his best to read Bushman his rights,
but that's hard because he's still in kindergarten and he
can't really read very well yet. And then we get
(53:49):
the credits. But then there's a mid credit scene or
you see Mark Specter sitting on a park bench looking
the worse for wear, and he's clearly distressed by all
those multiple personalities. And then who sits next to him
but Kimball, the cop, who says, bio a juice box,
and then Spector gives him a grin grin, and we
cut to black. The end, I'm going to start by
(54:11):
saying I love it, and then I'm going to say
your writers were inconsistent, because you're Arnold only had an
accent in his final line. I uh so, here's the thing.
Here's the thing. They say that everybody has an Arnold
Schwartzenegger impression. I do not if I do. It is
literally the world's worst. Anyone else in people who have
(54:31):
never even seen Arnold Schwarzenegger can do a better Arnold
Schwartzenegger impression that I can do. I have accepted that
this is just the truth, and I made the executive
decision that I was not going to do a Schwartzenegger
impression all the way through. I um. I also at
first thought maybe you were doing a kindergarten cop spoof instead.
(54:52):
I don't know, maybe you did. I've never watched the
movie of Kindergarten Cop. Yeah, no, I don't know, not
Kindergarten CA. Sorry, Cop and a half, Cop and a half, Oh,
I haven't. I don't even know what Cop and a
half is. It's like, I think Burt Reynolds is a
cop and he takes an eight year old on as
a partner, but it's an actual eight year old. Uh.
My husband actually got a chance to audition for that role,
(55:15):
and then they decided they wanted to go with a
different demographic for it, which is totally fine and the
right choice. But back when he was a kid he
was able to audition for it. No, this was this
was just me thinking like, how can I make Kindergarten
Cup interesting. And then because I actually I started working
on one, I got only like a paragraph in, and
I hated where it was going, and I felt like
I had written myself in a corner and that it
(55:37):
wasn't really funny, Like it was all the bad choices, right.
It's one of those things where you say, I have
made all the wrong choices. So I thought, well, what
can I do instead? And I thought, well, I could
just ignore the brief and not and make it a
literal kindergarten cup, but keep it as Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
absolutely loved it. I thought it was brilliant and I
(55:59):
want to watch this. But like with uh eighties Arnold Schwarzenegger,
I was gonna see, he can't be young, and he
can't be current age. He's gotta be nineteen eighties. So
that's gonna take some some multiverse of madness, yeah, and
and some massive c g I to do that. Um,
but if you out there have an idea of how
(56:21):
you would mash up Kindergarten cop and Moon Night better
than this, please do right in and tell us, yeah,
but be nice about it, because we already know. Okay,
we already know so yeah, you can. You can do
that by emailing us at l en C at iHeart
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(56:42):
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