June 3, 2021 • 52 mins
We watch some new trailers for Jungle Cruise, Kobra Cai and Old. Plus we talk about romance adventures, animation and we see what happens with Aladdin and Green Lantern meet.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of My
Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider
podcast podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always,
is the ever animated Jonathan Strickland. Thank you. I'm glad
I haven't been a race yet. Hey, Ariel, I got
a question for you now, Ariel. Later in this episode,
we're gonna be talking a lot about the color spectrum.
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It plays a part in one of the things we're
going to talk about a couple of times. So here's
your scenario, or as the Quister would say, So Ario,
you're a wizard, Ariel, but like a Tolkien wizard. So
what color do we associate with you? You are Ariel?
The green green? Yeah's my favorite color. I had a
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feeling that was gonna be it because I've known you
for like twenty years and I knew that green was
your favorite color. So don't kill me. I do love Tolkien.
I don't think there's a green. I don't think so.
I think there were two blue ones. There was you know, Gandalf,
the Gray sorrom On, the white Radigas the brown brown,
and then and then there were a couple of blue
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ones who went off to the east and you never
heard from you never heard from them at all. But
even even in like the notes, you never hear back
from those. You don't know whatever happened to those. But yeah,
I do not believe there was ever a So and
So the Green in Tolkien. Yes, so I would be
Ariel the Green, the Bright and cherry. But what about you? So,
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I think I think Ariel the Green, you would have
to be like related to things like like like woodlands
and meadows and like very nature kind of oriented. Maybe
not as much an animal focus as Radagast was, but
more like, yeah, yeah, I would go with Jonathan the turquoise,
kind of seaside. That's what I'm thinking I want to be.
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I want to be a beach wizard like like think
think like think like Gandalf, but he's moved to key
West and really let himself go. That's what I'm aiming for.
I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of Gandolf with Oh no,
I'm thinking of the wizard from Sorting the Stone from
Disney start in the stone with like the sunglass like
vacation and the big straw hat and yeah, yeah, that's
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what I imagine that you'd look like if you were
Jonathan the Turquoise, but younger because you're younger. I got goals,
Like that's that's kind of like my retirement goal right there. Well,
there we go, another question answered, and now we get
to trek into the dark mysterious dangers of this week's
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geek news. Yes, and our first news story is about
The African Queen. I mean the Juncle Cruise movie. Oh,
I thought you were talking about the Mummy, which is
what this trailer made me think of over and over
and over again. As I was watching, I went, this
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is the Mummy, but on a boat you see it?
To me, it reminded the first trailers is the second
trailer I believe that they've released, and the first trailer
made me feel this way too, Like the front end
of the trailer feels very much like the old classic
movie The African Queen with Katherine Hepburn, and then the
back half felt very like Pirates of the Caribbean. I agree.
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Parts of the Caribbean is the perfect one to kind
of compare this to as well, because there is is
there's a lot of action in this trailer that is
incredibly similar to the stuff you saw in the Pirates movie,
So definitely a Pirates of the Caribbean kind of flavor.
The reason why I say the Mummy, I'm thinking about
the Brendan Fraser Mummy movie, right because you've got the Skipper,
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who's essentially the same role as what Brendan Frasier was
playing in the Mummy, Emily Blunt's character, who's essentially Rachel
Wise's character from the Mummy, and you've got a so
far nameless third male character, third character who happens to
be male, who might as well be the brother character
from the Mummy, right, Like, like they don't there's there's
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like zero time spent on explaining who that person is.
There's no indication that. I mean, I don't know if
he came along with Emma Stone's character or if he
came along with Dwayne the Rock Johnson's character. I don't know,
but he's there probably for comedy relief, Yeah yeah, I mean,
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I don't know. I like Dwayne Johnson and I like
him in funny action Boobies, So I kind of want
to see it, but I don't. Now I'm going to
be thinking Mummy all the time. Darney and Jonathan, Well,
you know you need to watch it again. Watch it
again and watch some of those special effects, because I
swear when you watch it, you're gonna think, yeah, this
is parts of the Caribbean meets the Mummy set aboard
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a boat. I mean, that's what this is. I mean,
I guess parts of the Caribbeans technically said aboard boats
all the time, but you get what I mean. And
I think you're really going to get that. And also
to me came across as more intense and creepy than
I anticipated. Like as I was watching the little action
sequences play out, and obviously we don't know how much
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of the film those take up or whether that's you know,
maybe that's almost all of the action sequences. We don't know,
but some of them look pretty intense and scary, like
to the point where I was like, when I think
of the Jungle Cruise, I think of something that is
like really appealing to little kids. I loved it as
a little kid. I don't I'm putting myself back in
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that mindset. I don't know if a little as a
little kid, I would be able to watch this movie
and not be just totally freaked out. I mean, I
definitely think this is geared towards older children or you know,
adults are age where it's something we grew up with,
because we talked about in an earlier episode how they're
making the entire like Adventure Extended Universe, Disney Adventure Extended Universe,
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which would have Hired to Caribbean, Hotted Mansion. All of
those things innately are a little bit scary for young children.
That's fair, yeah, I mean, like even Jungle Cruise has
moments in it that if you're very little, you might
not understand. For example, my parents still love to tell
the story about how when I was I don't know,
three years old, and that Disney World that we rode
the Jungle Cruise ride, and and back then, you know,
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there's a hippopotamus that that rises up out of the
water and a bins his mouth, and in the old days,
it was framed as an attack on the boat, and
the skipper would pick up a little air rifle that
would just shoot little puffs of air, but it sounded
like a gun fire. A couple of times in the
hippo would go under, and um, and my parents love
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to tell the story that when that happened when I
was a little kid, I got very sad and said,
they shot the happy pot us. That's adorable. Apparently I
made the skipper apologize. So and now they don't shoot
the hippopot happy potus is anymore. The happy pot uses
don't get get filled with lead every on every ride.
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Well recently did he announce that, like a lot of
its other rides, they're retrofitting it to fit a more
modern age. Takes out some of the references that are
very outdated and problematic. Now, Um, and I did notice
that in the second trailer. The first trailer had reference
to some of those items in the ride, like shrunken
heads and stuff like shrunken heads, and the indigenous people
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that whose territory they were going through that ended up
being the first trailer ended up being actors. They don't
show any of that in this second trailer. A friend
of ours has a friend who is one of those people.
So I wonder if they're going to leave that in
or if they're going to take it out to match
the changes they're making to the ride. Mm, I don't know,
it is interesting. I mean, I'm honestly in favor of
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Disney updating their rides to be less like like xenophobic
and less you know, ethnocentric on on the white experience,
because if you if you went to Disney back in
the day, pretty much every experience was kind of framed
through the eyes of the you know, of of white people,
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which clearly, whether intentionally or not, left a lot of
people out. And I'm very glad to see Disney actually
taking steps to address that and to make it a
more inclusive place. I mean, that's the spirit of the park, right,
is that everyone belongs and everything, So it's good to
see them actually making moves to do that. I know
some purists get antsy when the park makes changes, and
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sometimes the changes don't always make sense on the surface,
but these kind of things I totally get behind, and
I mean I kind of do understand because you've got
all of these great memories for you built up, right,
So like when they replace the Mailstrom with Frozen, which
I understand why, you know, they've got to keep it
current to the kids who are going now, like, but
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I was sad because I have all of these fond
memories of the Mailstrom. So I get it on an
emotional level, you get that that disnified version of the
fairy Tale, which also I mean, like, I know you
have issues with the Hans Christian Andersen Little Mermaid one,
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which happens to be my favorite of the Disney movies.
But I totally get great music. I get where you're
coming from, though, So I'm like, yeah, there's some valid
there's some valid points of view. We don't mean to
dismiss anyone, but um, yeah, I'm very curious to see
how this movie shakes out. I don't I don't know
that I'm hooked. I like Emily Blunt, I like Dwayne
the Rock Johnson. I don't know if I like the
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third guy because we never learned his name or what
he does. But I don't know, Like, maybe this movie
will grab me the kind of the way the Pirates
of the Caribbean, the first one grabbed me. But but
I'm not quite feeling it yet. Yeah, me neither. It's
not like Marvel where I'm like, well, I have to
watch that. It's It's okay, it's a Disney movie. It's
an action it might be fun. So Uh, speaking of
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things that might be or not kid friendly. Uh. I'm
not sure how to segue into this, but there's a
movie coming out called The Lost City of d starring
Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum, which I didn't hear about
until this week. Honestly. Yeah, and this one made me
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immediately think in the article points this out too, But
this one made me immediately think of a classic romantic
adventure film from the nineteen eighties called Romancing the Stone.
Like as I was looking at the still the still
image of on the article, I was like, oh, is
this like a modern version of Romancing the Stone, which
has a romance author get pulled into this wild, crazy
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adventure that could have been ripped straight from the pages
of her own book, and she ends up having all
these experiences with this this rapscallion character, and of course
the two ultimately fall for each other. Spoiler alert for
a movie that's been out for forty years. But um,
this one looks like again Neil Sandra bull explaining a
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romance author and and and Tatum Tanning Chatum as I
like to call him. That's fair, Like I I'm I'm
guaranteed to get names wrong every single time, but he's
playing He's playing the model who serves as the cover
model for her books, and the two of them are
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on a book tour together and then they get pulled
into some wild, wacky shenanigans. So I will say Channing
Tatum has grown in my heart outside of the Magic
Mike movies, no offense anybody who likes them. I just
did not. But I think he's a really funny guy
and I think he will do great in a rom com.
And Sandra Bullock, I mean, if you look at Miss
Congeniality or The Proposal or anything like that, are they
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great cinema? No, But they're perfectly enjoyable potato chip rom coms.
So yeah, it's a fun plays for an afternoon, totally
plays to her strengths. Yeah, and I think I think
if it, if it kind of pulls up the spirit
of Romancing the Stone, that could be a really fun movie.
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I mean, Sandra Bullock also obviously has a lot of
comedy action in her in her Wheelhouse too, so uh, yeah,
I think it could be a lot of fun. Like
but the first thing I thought was, wow, they've they've
sort of rebooted Romancing the Stone and I'm here for
it because that was a fun movie. I enjoyed it
as well. Now I will say it looks like it
might be pretty steamy according to some posts that Channing
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Tatum made on Instagram, so where he was wearing nothing
but a towel in the makeup room. Yes, uh, And
he's like, I'm going to have to warn my parents
before they watch this movie. So I guess you've been warned.
Are you gonna warn us about Cobra Kai season four?
Thank you, thank you for saving me throwing me a lifel. Yes,
Cobra Kai season four. I think he's finished rap filming wrapped,
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but we just got the first trailer for it. It's
like a nothing trailer, and anybody who's watched the series
knows what's going to happen. But if you're like me
and you have never seen an episode of Cobra Kai,
despite the fact that we did a mesh up about
it once upon a time, I was able to watch
this trailer and figure out what it had up. And
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in season three, Yeah, so Terry Silver is coming back.
We knew that. We knew Crease called him. We know
Creases the Big Bat and Johnny and Daniel have kind
of teamed up. Sorry for anybody who hasn't watched it yet,
but it's very obvious. Um yeah, so for those who
for those who may not be up on their Karate
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Kid lore, Crease is the guy who ran the Cobra
Kai do jo back in the original Karate Kid film
and was Johnny's sense and then Terry Silver was a
Vietnam war vet buddy of Creases, who in Karate Kid
three comes in too secretly act as kind of like
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almost like a double agent type. He brings he's training
Daniel to fight in a different style that Miyagi won't
teach him, but it's secretly to undermine Daniel and to
cause him to uh suffer and feel payne. And now
this bad guy who was like a scenery chewing bad
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guy in Grannie Get three is u is back for
the Cobra Kai series in some form. It's really interesting
to me because when I was watching through season three,
one of the fan theories was that Tory Nichols, who
is kind of like the main female antagonist, Um, you know,
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she's the bad girl. She's one of the love interests,
and Chris kind of takes her under his wing a
lot of people were theorizing that she might be the
daughter of Terry Silver. Um. I don't think that's been confirmed,
you know, because Season four hasn't come out yet, but
it would be interesting. I also think it's funny because
her last name is Nichols and Nichols to Silver. Yeah,
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that would be funny. Well, we're going to talk now
about the most recent trailer for m Night Shyamlon's Old
a film that has a very small cast, takes place
largely as far as we can tell, at a single location,
that being a beach, and the the premise appears to
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be that when people go to this beach, they begin
to age rapidly, and thus they have a very limited
amount of time to figure out what's happening and how
they can escape before they die of old age. Yeah,
it's I don't know. So I am very hit or
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miss on M Night Shyamlon's movies. Yeah, we know there's
going to be a twist. I don't know what it is.
Sometimes it's pretty obvious, sometimes it's not at all. Um,
but this one's it's interesting to me because I was like,
okay at the beginning of this movie, looks okay, it's intriguing,
and then the end of the trailer looked super super
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scary to me, so I don't know if I'll be
able to sit through it. But one of the little girls,
who looks like is maybe six or seven at the
beginning of the trailer gets pregnant, So I can only
imagine that the island does more to propagate people, to
turn them old than just simply age people. I sure
hope so, because the other the other implication is absolutely
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horrifying and not in a way that I would ever
want to be depicted in a movie. So yeah, I
don't know. Like I'm not, I'm not the hugest fan
of his work. Like there's certain movies that I do
find entertaining. I mean, obviously The Sixth Sense is still
one of those movies that I think was exactly the
right movie at the right time to become a spectacular hit.
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But yeah, like like You, a lot of his other
later films are real hit or miss with me. Some
of them are more interesting to me on an intellectual level,
but I don't find particularly entertaining to watch. Like Unbreakable,
I think is a really interesting movie, but I don't
I don't actually want like watching it, like I can't.
It's a long movie and not a lot happens in it. Um.
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I guess I don't like watching it either, because I've
only watched it once. But it was interesting when I did. Yeah, no,
it was a neat It was a neat take on
the superhero genre. But like a lot of his movies also,
they tend to have very low replay value because they
are so reliant upon twists that once you know the twist,
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there's there's less reason for you to watch it again
unless you're just watching to see. Okay, well, let's see
where all the indicators are as to what the twist is,
like the stuff that I didn't notice the first time
around because I wasn't aware that there was a twist.
He also has a habit of either writing himself or
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some version of himself into the narrative, or using the
narrative as a way of addressing something specific about himself,
like not not a universal sperience, but something very specific
to him that rubs me the wrong way as well. Yeah, yeah,
that's interesting. I hadn't, I guess noticed that you gotta
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watch Lady in the Water, So I have not watched
that one, now, yeah, that one. That one is the
one I'm specifically talking about. But yeah, I got you. Well,
I might wait to see what the reviews say before
I watch it, kind of spoiler it for myself because,
like I said, it's it looks very scary. I don't
know if I could sit through it. I stood up
in the front row. Sorry if I've told you all
listeners this many times. When I watched Signs in the
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movie theater back when it first came out, I stood up.
I was in the front row of the theater because
that's all that was left. And I stood up and
screamed when the alien ran across the TV screen of
the kid's birthday party, Um, and everybody laughed at me.
So that's my threshold for h I am one movies. Yeah,
you had your own little carry white moment there in
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the theater. They're all going to laugh at you. Well,
we're going to take a break, and when we come back,
we will have that animated discussion that Ariel was kind
of alluding to at the opening of our show. All right,
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as Jonathan and I flail wildly at each other to say,
who's going to come back in from that break? Uh,
we are. We are rusty. You throw one holiday in
there and suddenly we're like, no one knows how to
come back from a from a break one holiday that
didn't even really affect our taping schedule regardless. Okay, So,
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as Jonathan said, I alluded to this in the intro,
but we're talking about animation styles, and this was kind
of inspired by the fact that um I finished Modoc
on Hulu recently and it was very robot Chicken and
the humor was for me, like, some of it was funny,
some of it was kind of boy humor that didn't land.
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And I don't know if that's because it's me or
if it's because of the media that it was being
presented in. I love stop motion animation, which is what
modoc is, but I wasn't sure if that was affecting
the humor level. So I was like, we should have
a conversation about animation in general. So that's what we're
gonna do. Yeah. So my general perspective on animation is
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that to me, the story is the most important thing,
Like the story needs to be good and then the
animation just needs to support the story. And that animation
could be in any format. So I enjoy pretty much
all types of animation, right Like I like stop motion animation,
I like hand drawn animation, I like computer animation. And
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the thing I don't like is when people um equate
a style of animation with quality of animation, not not
just the quality of the art, but the quality of
the experience of seeing it, because it makes me think
of like when Pisar was first doing movies for Disney,
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before Pixar became part of Disney, there was this general
feeling that because Toy Story was such a huge hit,
that the era of hand drawn animation should be over
like computer animations. Where it's at and and John Lester
is a man of many, many faults, but one of
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the things he said that I agree with is that
it wasn't so much like to him, it was never
the thing about it being computer animation, about that being
the distinct thing that set apart Toy Story. It was
that the story had a lot of heart and that
the animation was just their way of telling the story.
But that if the story was bad, it wouldn't matter
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how good the computer animation was, because he would just
look at and go, well, it looks neat, but I mean,
what else is there? I agree, I honestly was kind
of sad when Disney moved to a lot more computer
animation and Pixar style animation. I really like the two
D stuff. And even though as as Disney so a
lot of like Disney's earlier stuff all looks the same.
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If you look at like snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella,
they all have a similar style. Even when you get
into like Lion King and Aladdin and later stuff, well,
yeah you have yeah, you have certain artists whose whose
technique carries through from one movie to the next. So
you look at those early ones and you're seeing a
lot of animation that was rhodoscoped on top of actual film,
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which is also why if you're ever really bored, you
can go down the YouTube rabbit hole and look at
the various clips of different Disney animation that's all the
exact same sequence. Like there's this one dancing sequence of
you know, a young woman holding her skirt up that's
been used multiple times as used in Snow White, and
it was used in Robin Hood, and it was all
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because they were all using the same reference film and
rotoscoping the animation on top of it, so it's literally
the same animated sequence, just with different characters. But yeah,
there was a lot of There are a lot of
eras where like there was also the Dawn Bluth era,
right like A Fox and the Hound and uh, Oliver
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and Company. There was that era as well, where it
was very distinctive. That also was an era that I
don't actually don't like the movies from that era. Yeah, well,
in same with like if you get to I guess
Home on the Range, this one where they really played
with their their animation style and it's just I don't
particularly enjoy it, or I guess even kind of Treasure
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Planet they go a little more stylistic or or Hercules.
Hercules is a great example, didn't Didn't Treasure Planet and
Atlantis both come out around the same time too, like
those I think so, yeah, I think I've ever even
seen Atlantis. I would say, I think you're either in
the Treasure Planet or the Atlantis camp. And I'm totally
making this up, but based on my friends, they've either
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watched one or the other. In the Treasure Planets, yeah
that's the one I saw. Yeah, No, I actually really
liked the Hercules design, but that's because I felt like
they were taking some inspiration from uh Greek art, like
only a little bit only in the it was very
disgnified version of that. So don't like it wasn't like
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drawn straight from the urns or whatever. But I didn't
like that they were doing that. Yeah, me too, But
I feel like there's less of that now that so
much of Disney animation and Pixar movies are I guess
luca Is is a good example of not that, but
a lot of them feel very similar in the animation
style again, so yeah, yeah, I would say that, like
Tangled and Frozen look pretty similar to each other. Yeah
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that was a Pixar one though, So yeah, Brave was Pixar.
It was one of the Pixar movie les. So like
when people rank the Pixar movies, that one gets a
pretty that one usually ends up in the lower half
for a lot of people. Well, which is unfortunate because
I thought the Brave was a really interesting take on
a story. But at the same time, I was like, yeah,
it's hard for it to match up against things that
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are just so joyful like Toy Story or um uh
you know, so so emotionally uh involved, like finding Nemo
but um, yeah, for me, all the Disney stuff like
like that falls into different categories, but again mostly based
on the quality of the storytelling, not necessarily the art.
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So I can still watch like classic, the Classic Sleeping
Beauty cartoon and still enjoy that just as much as
if I were to watch Little Mermaid, which of course
has a place in my heart because I was growing
up and that was my favorite Disney film, or Tangled,
which is probably my favorite of the more recent Disney films.
Um but outside of Disney animation, there's tons of animation
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that I absolutely love, including stuff like stop motion and beyond.
So same now, except for for me, the animation is
since it is a part of the storytelling. You can
have an amazing story and it can be such I
don't want to say ugly animation, but it's what my
brain construses ugly animation, like very gross humor animation. So
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I'm thinking like Ren and Stimpy or some SpongeBob or
even Invader Zim. I think Invader Zim was the first
cartoon that kind of broached that ugly, more grotesque style
for me that I enjoyed. But like, you can take
a good story or good storytelling or good humor and
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ruin it for me by making the characters so unpleasant
to look at that I don't appreciate it. I can
get that. I also think that you can use quote
unquote bad animation as a part of your storytelling to
make jokes, right, So like Robot Chicken does that a
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little bit because a lot of the times they're using
figures that don't have full uh pose ability, but that's
part of the joke, right, although most of the time
they end up making their own puppets that are similar
to but not actually the toy figures. Uh the same
sort of thing with Like I think of shows like
Archer where that animation style is pretty limited. It's not
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like it's not as fully animated as some other series
are umoetically pleasing to me, it is, yeah, but there
are some where it's like the limited you know, they'll
do limited animation and that's part of the gimmick, right,
Like that's I think of Space Ghost, like they were
reusing animation with Space Ghost Coast to Coast. They were
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using a ton of animation from old Hanna Barbara cartoons,
and that to me worked really well because it it
was feeding back into the loop of this is a
a uh, let's put on a show kind of approach,
and so it and that the tone well right, it
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supported the tone. So I think, I think, really like
it comes down to having that right mix of animation
style and the storytelling where they complement each other and
support each other. That's what makes good animation. Not necessarily
that you're looking at something that required, you know, more
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hours of work or more experts to put it together.
I mean, obviously you can get really beautiful animation that way,
but it doesn't necessarily translate into a truly enjoyable experience.
I get it. I mean, I will say like I
watched the New Animaniacs and the it felt kind of
rent and stimpy to me, so I didn't enjoy it
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as much. I still enjoyed it, not quite as much.
I still haven't seen them. I actually did like the
the retro Rows style Disney cartoons that also had a
bit of a grotesque in them, especially if Goofy's in
the cartoon. Goofy is pretty grotesque in those cartoons. I
like them all, but Goofy I don't. But also I
don't like them making Goofy so gross to me. He's
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so heartfelt. Yeah, I really enjoyed those cartoons. I don't
understand that particular decision to change Goofy that way, but man,
once they did it, they they really went all in.
So yeah, this is interesting. You know, I know we
have a lot of artsy friends and I'm hoping probably
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also artsy listeners, So I'd really love to hear what
you all think. What kind of animations do you like
or not? Like, I know, like a lot of comic
book animated movies also use very limited, uh animation in
their storytelling to feel more like a comic book, and
like I like that. Yeah, Invincible kind of feels that
way at times. Yeah, definitely, definitely, but also very very
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gross at moments. No, Invincible Invincible. If you want to
talk about graphic violence, Invincible is got. It's got that
going on, like that, you don't have any idea of
how graphic it's going to be until you get to
the the end of the first episode and then you're
just like, WHOA, this is different from what I thought
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it was gonna be. The first episode is so endearing. Well,
and that's the thing, right, That's that's what makes that
last moment really have an enormous impact. It's not just
because it's over the top graphic violence. It's that it's
following this story that up to that point. It's kind
of lulled you into this sense of a different kind
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of story. Um. And obviously I came at it without
having read the comics, so I knew like what it
was about. I had heard things about it, and I
knew that there were elements of violence in it. I
just had no idea of the extent of it until
I watched it. Yeah. Same, I think this has been
really good. Like I said, I'm really interested to see
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what other people think about animation styles. It's always so
interesting to hear other people's opinions on this. It was
interesting to hear your opinion on this, Jonathan, uh So,
make sure to write us. We'll tell you how to
do that at the end of the show, and when
we come back from this break, we're going to take
a piece of classic animation and mash it up with
comic book property that's currently in the news. You know, Ariel,
(32:38):
when we had our animation discussion, there was one thing
that I should have mentioned that I really really really
love that uh is sort of cheesy and you don't
really see it anymore. And that's stop motion animation that
is integrated into live action movies. So I'm thinking of
like the old Harry hells and stuff. Yeah, I will
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have a deep love for that, like stuff from like
Clash of the Titans and that kind of thing, The
original Clash of the Titans, not the remake, the original
Clash of the Titans, Like I mean, that's the like
inception of Origen or drunk Collider. That was the very
third first thing we did was take his Clash of
the Titans and mash it up with Thor. Yeah, this
time we're doing something a little different. We're not doing
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those no, No, we are taking Aladdin quote unquote classic
animation and mixing it up with Green Lantern. Yes, so
we're specifically taking Disney's Aladdin. Obviously, the the story of
Aladdin predates the Disney film, but we are specifically taking
that as our point of inspiration. Now, the reason we
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picked green Lantern is because, as you alluded to before
our break, it's in the news because we have heard
about the HBO series that will feature a green lantern
and and not not the green lantern I wrote about
Momsha yeah, no, me neither. It's featuring Alan Scott, who
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was kind of like the first, kind of like he
was the first screen Lantern as far as I understand,
sort of the Golden Age of comics Screen Lantern Um
played by Jeremy Irvine, uh, who has been in various
things well. And and so for those who don't know
Alan Scott, that version of Green Lantern, as as Aeriel said,
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was from the Golden Age of comics, and uh, the Flash,
the original version of the Flash was also from the
Golden Age. And what happened was that the comic book creators,
they're looking like, comic books had had their heyday, they
had sort of died down, and now we were going
into a new era of comics, the Silver Age, which
is where most of the characters we associate with comic books,
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like classic DC characters, most of them actually really came
out of the Silver Age, not the Golden Age, right,
And they had brought back a character called the Flash,
it was not the exact same one as from the
Golden Age, and that one had started doing really well.
So they were looking at other Golden Age properties they
had and said, who else can we do? And that's
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when they brought in the Green Lantern, and this time
it was how Jordan's not Alan Scott. Alan Scott's version
of Green Lantern is a little different like in the
original comics, the Alan Scott Green Lantern his powers didn't
work on would just like Dr Who. So maybe we
should have done a Green Lantern Doctor Who mash up
(35:31):
instead of Green Lantern in Aladdin, but it's too late now. Also,
his his motto was different, so it wasn't the in
Brightest Day and Blackest Night, no evil shall escape my
sight both that everybody knows. Yeah, yeah it was. It
didn't even rhyme the original one. Um. But yeah, it's
It's funny because Jeremy Irvine in a in a tweet
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about being cast as Allan Scott, actually quoted that version
of the Green Lantern oath. But that was that was
a How Jordan's era oath. But yeah, it's interesting that
they're going back to the Golden Age one, not the
Silver Age, which is again the one I think most
people would associate with the character of Green Lantern. I
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am very curious about that. Me too, me too. Um.
I I hope that HBO gives me something that is
somewhat uplifting as opposed to a Game of Thrones version
of Green Lantern, even though there's certainly a lot of
darkness in Green Lantern. Obviously that's what they're fighting. So yeah,
so we are now going to mash up Green Lantern
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with Aladdin, Disney's Aladdin. Hilarity will surely ensue an Ariel.
You know what question I'm about to ask you? Who
goes first? I guess I can. Okay, all right, so
this is you like my surety there? Okay, this is
al Laddin in the Cave of Lanterns. And Jonathan said
(36:59):
that we are doing a Disney Aladdin. I'm mostly doing
the Disney Aladdin, but with a few other surprises. Learning okay.
So Senestro had been thrown back in time due to
his latest bouts with the Green Lanterns. When he finally
landed in a place and time, he found himself in
a vast desert without his ring, and without that ring,
he could not raise himself up to power in the
strange land by force in an effort to return back
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and defeat hal Jordan's. However, he was not completely lost.
You see, he was once an anthropologist, true and his
once friend Abin Sure, another green lantern, had studied Earth
history as a part of his stint as a green lantern,
and had many discussions about it with Sinestro before his death.
I guess Aben Sir found it interesting, like dr who
did fun Earth interesting? So Sinestro knew all was not lost.
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He would have to integrate himself into the graces of
the local leaders and work his way up the chain
until he could gain enough power in the region, Planet, etcetera,
to rule, or until he found his ring to do
the work for him. He searched for days in the
desert before or finding the city of Agriba. Once there,
he endeared himself to the local sultan as a trusted advisor,
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using his knowledge of culture's technology in the future to
wow him, all the while searching for his ring. Soon, however,
the drudgery of being the Sultan's adviser took so much
time that he found himself not being able to sneak
away to locate the ring, so he found a youth
named al Laddin to help him. The kid was desperate
and no one would miss him once the ring was found,
so Seinestra sent al Laddin to the next place on
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his search list a fabled cave known as the Cave
of Wonders, with the instructions to find the ring and
bring it to him. Also, do not put the ring
on or touch anything. Once al Laddin was in the
Cave of Wonders, he found the ring, but upon picking
it up, the force was too powerful and it threw
him back into an old oil lantern. The cave collapsed
around al Laddin, leaving Seinstra to think he was dead.
(38:51):
Then a magical thing happened. A blue being popped out
of the oil lantern that al Laddin had bumped into.
He introduced himself as Ganneth, the Blue Lantern, and proposed
a deal to al Laddin. He would use his great
cosmic powers to give al Laddin the life he desired
in a calm heart, if Aladdin would help him defeat Sinestro.
Ganneth had been lying in waiting the lamp and thought
(39:12):
Senestro would come down into the cave. Get greedy, grabbed
the lamp and Powi, but obviously no dice. Aladdin gave
the ring Sinestro had wanted to Ganneth for safekeeping, and
they escaped the cave. Al Laddin and Ganneth put a
planet emotion to stop Sidestro. However, during that time, al
Laddin fell in love with the Sultan's daughter, and Ganneth,
being tied so closely to emotion as a blue lantern,
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felt compelled to help him. While Ganneth was helping al
Laddin get the girl, he let his guard down and
Sinestro got his ring back. Sinestro became all powerful and
Ganneth couldn't defeat him. Ganneth through al Laddin a ring
and said here, put this on, and all of a sudden,
al Laddin became a green lantern. Just then, Jasmine, the
Sultan's daughter, pulled out her ring and also became a
green lantern, and together al Ganneth and Jasmine defeated Sinestro,
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and Ganneth was free to return to his own time
and play guarding the galaxy, the universe whatnot. But before
Ganneth did, he tasked out to help the rest of
the Lantern Corps protect against the Darkest one hundred and
one Nights. He teamed up with Scheherazad, Ali Baba and
Sindbad and the rest is history. I like it, thank you.
It is very different from mind, which I also like.
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I am excited for years Okay, they're singing in it
all right. This one is called but what if the
Genie were green? Hal Jordan has a problem. He's gone
from test pilot to mechanic after his insubordinate behavior got
him grounded by the military. He's stuck with his feet
(40:41):
on the ground, head in the sky. It's okay, I know,
nothing's wrong. Wait no, I'm sorry. That's that's This must
be the place a k A naive melody by the
talking heads. Anyway, Hal has found himself in a job
he doesn't really like, working for a company that he
has mixed feeling is about. He has a crush on
the CEO of the company, Carol Ferris, but she's the
(41:05):
daughter of the man whom How feels caused his own
father's death. This is all actual backstory for How Jordan's
d C comics. He's not where he belongs, is what
I'm getting at, and he could be so much greater now.
Working for the aerospace company Ferris Aircraft, How gets an
assignment to go out and work on some planes in
(41:27):
the Middle East, and while on his way to a secret,
remote location so secret he's not actually allowed to fly
into the air base, he gets lost in a sudden
sandstorm along a desert road, and fearing for his safety,
he stops driving and hunkers down until he can actually see.
And when he finally can, he sees something amazing. Ahead
(41:50):
of him is a strange hill, looks a bit like
a tiger's head with the mouth opening into a cave.
Drawn to this, how it gets out of his sand
covered vehicle, makes his way to that cave, and inside,
how's he's something truly phenomenal. The cave is filled with
various treasures. There are jewels and ornate decorative weapons, and gold,
(42:14):
so much gold. But before he lays a hand on anything,
he hears what sounds like a weak voice calling for help.
Hal breaks into a run, heading as quickly as he
can to find out who is in trouble. And then
he sees something truly amazing. A bald man with skin
that's kind of the color of fucia, kind of like,
you know, like a sort of purple Yule Brenner. He's
(42:37):
wearing a weird outfit and he's holding out a ring
in his palm. Take this how Jordan's, he says. The
ring glowing seems to call out to Jordan's He finds
himself compelled to take it from the strange man, slipping
onto his finger, and then the man says something really odd. Well, sinestro,
(43:00):
the para lax full of fear and Dougleason, but your
luck levels just hit max because the bunch of friends
you're now in, you got willpower in your corner. Now,
defending the week will be your thing. You'll make all
the little kids say Wow. All you gotta do is
wear this ring in You'll say I got mad powers
now the best I've ever seen. You can fly right
(43:22):
up to towers. Pal you're joining in the cor that's green.
Then the alien who's named, by the way, is Aban, Sir,
totally dies. How confused as to why a musical number
launched and then promptly fizzled out, has the ring on
his finger and nothing happens. So he points his finger
with great willpower. Nothing. He waves his hand around, nothing.
(43:45):
He nudges the corpse of ab and served with the ring. Nothing. Sighing,
he rubs his hands together in a nervous gesture that
we totally saw him do earlier in the movie, even
though I forgot to mention it before now, and in
the process he rubs the ring. Suddenly the ring glows
a deep green, and the cave reverberates with a voice
that says, in the brightest day, him blackest night, no
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evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evils
might be where my power. Green lanterns light and out
pops a genie. A green Genie, How now really thrown off? Says,
did I lose my marbles in that sandstorm? The genie
laughs and explains it no. How, Jordan has just found
himself inducted into the Green Lantern core. Each member has
(44:31):
a special ring which houses a genie and aspect of
willpower who acts as a liaison between what the wearer
wants and how it all comes out. Just then, the
cave begins to rumble, and How begins to run towards
the entrance, but he's never gonna make it. The genie says, hey, buddy,
you can tots fly now use the ring. How waves
(44:51):
his hand some more and nothing really happens, and then
out of desperation, he says, I wish I could fly,
and he feels his feet leave the ground, and soon
he is being out of the cavern and like this
crazy display of agility that you just know is going
to get turned into a theme park ride somewhere at
some point. Anyway, he emerges from the cave genie into now.
(45:12):
How says the genie, there are a few provisos, a
few quid pro quos that we have to go over.
Sure you got this power now that you are also
tasked with using it to protect others. How, looking down
at his ring and at the ground far below his feet,
feels a sense of determination. This feels right. He can
(45:33):
live up to the wishes of his dearly departed father,
and he can be the hero that he had always
dreamed he might be. What follows is a montage of
How performing heroic deeds, helping people escape dangerous situations and
defeating dangerous enemies. And after months of adventuring, How turns
his eyes back home. See, there's that woman there that
(45:57):
he loves but hasn't figured out how he's want to
talk to her. Her name's Carol Ferris, and so Hal
turns to the genie of the ring, who really really
sets him up. All right, So we're back at Coast City,
where Carol Ferris is getting ready to head into Ferris Aircraft,
the aerospace company where she's the CEO, but she hears
a ruckuss outside, so she looks out and she sees
(46:20):
something she can't believe. It's the Eiffel Tower. Yeah. In
a moment, it appears as though Carol has somehow been
transported across the world and they're singing, it's the genie.
Carol Ferris, welcome to Paris thanks to Hal Jordan. What
a guy. Watch him fly whenever he wants. He fought
(46:42):
the Seinestro core till they don't want anymore, and now
he's at your door with croissants. And then the song
ends abruptly because we got a budget. Carol, dazzled by
Hal's genie, but more with the fact that Hal finally
worked up a way to ask her out, points out
that she doesn't date employees of her company, but she's
(47:05):
gonna make an exception. Oh. We also see in the
background of her closet this weird jewel is glinting at us.
It kind of looks like a sapphire. But that's an
obscure hint to a sequel that only people who are
big Green lantern fans are even going to understand. We're
just going to leave it here the end. Oh I
love that. You see, my mine always end up being
(47:25):
origin stories where I just leave out the villains because
those are always the parts in origin stories that I
like the least. I like. I like learning how the
hero became the hero, but then they always have to
throw in like, well, now the hero has got a
face off against the villain, and that always feels like
the part that doesn't work in those movies for me.
So like Iron Man, aunt Man, all those kind of things.
(47:47):
So I was like, I'm just gonna skip it. See.
I felt like in Doctors Strange, though, they gave the
villain a decent enough backstory and walk through his motivations
and they were genuine, So I agree. I agree. I
think by Dr Strange they had done the formula enough
where they were able to address that a little bit.
(48:08):
It still wasn't as integrated as I would have liked,
but it was better, right Like you look at Iron
Man or the First Captain American movie, or you look
at um you know, uh, aunt Man was the same.
Like a lot of those movies. The interesting stuff is
(48:29):
finding out how the character became the hero, and then
you have to have them have some sort of confrontation
with a comparable villain, but you can't spend an equal
amount of time establishing the villain, right, Like, that's just
not really possible unless you want your movie to be
like Peter Jackson length um, which is kind of why
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I wish the First Captain American movie had been split
into two, because I felt like the first half of
that movie is fantastic, and the second half I could
I could just stop once it gets to the point
where they do the montage. I agree. I think a
lot of I think a lot of Marvel villains and
d C villains feel a bit rushed. Yeah, but the
exception of like like the Vulture in Spider Man was great. Right,
(49:14):
it's the villains that you don't expect to be really
interesting that turned out to be the fascinating ones. But
or Loki obviously, But Loki is kind of an anti hero.
So yeah, he's an antihero. He's only sometimes villainous, which
I'm sure we'll see in the series, which starts off
very soon. So that's exciting. So we are going to
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end this episode now so that we can get ready
to pop all the popcorn for tomorrow, because we're reporting
this on Tuesday, the first of June, but we got
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was mentioning that you can write to us if you
have your own thoughts about animation, or if you have
your own ideas about mashups we can do or a
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(49:57):
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to converse with you on things that we all love. Yeah,
and I genuinely love taking beloved properties and twisting them
(50:40):
to the point where the bleak, depressing nature of underneath
comes bleeding through. Not so much this week, but man,
if you listen to the one from two weeks ago,
holy cal Yes, Yes, it was sad. It was so sad,
unexpectedly sad. I also hilarious. If you need to catch up,
(51:02):
you should do that, go back and listen to those episodes. Uh,
but until next time. I have been Aerial Brightest Day Casting,
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podcast podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
(00:28):
about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always,
is the ever animated Jonathan Strickland. Thank you. I'm glad
I haven't been a race yet. Hey, Ariel, I got
a question for you now, Ariel. Later in this episode,
we're gonna be talking a lot about the color spectrum.
(00:51):
It plays a part in one of the things we're
going to talk about a couple of times. So here's
your scenario, or as the Quister would say, So Ario,
you're a wizard, Ariel, but like a Tolkien wizard. So
what color do we associate with you? You are Ariel?
The green green? Yeah's my favorite color. I had a
(01:16):
feeling that was gonna be it because I've known you
for like twenty years and I knew that green was
your favorite color. So don't kill me. I do love Tolkien.
I don't think there's a green. I don't think so.
I think there were two blue ones. There was you know, Gandalf,
the Gray sorrom On, the white Radigas the brown brown,
and then and then there were a couple of blue
(01:38):
ones who went off to the east and you never
heard from you never heard from them at all. But
even even in like the notes, you never hear back
from those. You don't know whatever happened to those. But yeah,
I do not believe there was ever a So and
So the Green in Tolkien. Yes, so I would be
Ariel the Green, the Bright and cherry. But what about you? So,
(02:03):
I think I think Ariel the Green, you would have
to be like related to things like like like woodlands
and meadows and like very nature kind of oriented. Maybe
not as much an animal focus as Radagast was, but
more like, yeah, yeah, I would go with Jonathan the turquoise,
kind of seaside. That's what I'm thinking I want to be.
(02:24):
I want to be a beach wizard like like think
think like think like Gandalf, but he's moved to key
West and really let himself go. That's what I'm aiming for.
I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of Gandolf with Oh no,
I'm thinking of the wizard from Sorting the Stone from
Disney start in the stone with like the sunglass like
vacation and the big straw hat and yeah, yeah, that's
(02:48):
what I imagine that you'd look like if you were
Jonathan the Turquoise, but younger because you're younger. I got goals,
Like that's that's kind of like my retirement goal right there. Well,
there we go, another question answered, and now we get
to trek into the dark mysterious dangers of this week's
(03:09):
geek news. Yes, and our first news story is about
The African Queen. I mean the Juncle Cruise movie. Oh,
I thought you were talking about the Mummy, which is
what this trailer made me think of over and over
and over again. As I was watching, I went, this
(03:31):
is the Mummy, but on a boat you see it?
To me, it reminded the first trailers is the second
trailer I believe that they've released, and the first trailer
made me feel this way too, Like the front end
of the trailer feels very much like the old classic
movie The African Queen with Katherine Hepburn, and then the
back half felt very like Pirates of the Caribbean. I agree.
(03:54):
Parts of the Caribbean is the perfect one to kind
of compare this to as well, because there is is
there's a lot of action in this trailer that is
incredibly similar to the stuff you saw in the Pirates movie,
So definitely a Pirates of the Caribbean kind of flavor.
The reason why I say the Mummy, I'm thinking about
the Brendan Fraser Mummy movie, right because you've got the Skipper,
(04:19):
who's essentially the same role as what Brendan Frasier was
playing in the Mummy, Emily Blunt's character, who's essentially Rachel
Wise's character from the Mummy, and you've got a so
far nameless third male character, third character who happens to
be male, who might as well be the brother character
from the Mummy, right, Like, like they don't there's there's
(04:42):
like zero time spent on explaining who that person is.
There's no indication that. I mean, I don't know if
he came along with Emma Stone's character or if he
came along with Dwayne the Rock Johnson's character. I don't know,
but he's there probably for comedy relief, Yeah yeah, I mean,
(05:04):
I don't know. I like Dwayne Johnson and I like
him in funny action Boobies, So I kind of want
to see it, but I don't. Now I'm going to
be thinking Mummy all the time. Darney and Jonathan, Well,
you know you need to watch it again. Watch it
again and watch some of those special effects, because I
swear when you watch it, you're gonna think, yeah, this
is parts of the Caribbean meets the Mummy set aboard
(05:26):
a boat. I mean, that's what this is. I mean,
I guess parts of the Caribbeans technically said aboard boats
all the time, but you get what I mean. And
I think you're really going to get that. And also
to me came across as more intense and creepy than
I anticipated. Like as I was watching the little action
sequences play out, and obviously we don't know how much
(05:47):
of the film those take up or whether that's you know,
maybe that's almost all of the action sequences. We don't know,
but some of them look pretty intense and scary, like
to the point where I was like, when I think
of the Jungle Cruise, I think of something that is
like really appealing to little kids. I loved it as
a little kid. I don't I'm putting myself back in
(06:10):
that mindset. I don't know if a little as a
little kid, I would be able to watch this movie
and not be just totally freaked out. I mean, I
definitely think this is geared towards older children or you know,
adults are age where it's something we grew up with,
because we talked about in an earlier episode how they're
making the entire like Adventure Extended Universe, Disney Adventure Extended Universe,
(06:33):
which would have Hired to Caribbean, Hotted Mansion. All of
those things innately are a little bit scary for young children.
That's fair, yeah, I mean, like even Jungle Cruise has
moments in it that if you're very little, you might
not understand. For example, my parents still love to tell
the story about how when I was I don't know,
three years old, and that Disney World that we rode
the Jungle Cruise ride, and and back then, you know,
(06:56):
there's a hippopotamus that that rises up out of the
water and a bins his mouth, and in the old days,
it was framed as an attack on the boat, and
the skipper would pick up a little air rifle that
would just shoot little puffs of air, but it sounded
like a gun fire. A couple of times in the
hippo would go under, and um, and my parents love
(07:17):
to tell the story that when that happened when I
was a little kid, I got very sad and said,
they shot the happy pot us. That's adorable. Apparently I
made the skipper apologize. So and now they don't shoot
the hippopot happy potus is anymore. The happy pot uses
don't get get filled with lead every on every ride.
(07:39):
Well recently did he announce that, like a lot of
its other rides, they're retrofitting it to fit a more
modern age. Takes out some of the references that are
very outdated and problematic. Now, Um, and I did notice
that in the second trailer. The first trailer had reference
to some of those items in the ride, like shrunken
heads and stuff like shrunken heads, and the indigenous people
(08:05):
that whose territory they were going through that ended up
being the first trailer ended up being actors. They don't
show any of that in this second trailer. A friend
of ours has a friend who is one of those people.
So I wonder if they're going to leave that in
or if they're going to take it out to match
the changes they're making to the ride. Mm, I don't know,
it is interesting. I mean, I'm honestly in favor of
(08:26):
Disney updating their rides to be less like like xenophobic
and less you know, ethnocentric on on the white experience,
because if you if you went to Disney back in
the day, pretty much every experience was kind of framed
through the eyes of the you know, of of white people,
(08:48):
which clearly, whether intentionally or not, left a lot of
people out. And I'm very glad to see Disney actually
taking steps to address that and to make it a
more inclusive place. I mean, that's the spirit of the park, right,
is that everyone belongs and everything, So it's good to
see them actually making moves to do that. I know
some purists get antsy when the park makes changes, and
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sometimes the changes don't always make sense on the surface,
but these kind of things I totally get behind, and
I mean I kind of do understand because you've got
all of these great memories for you built up, right,
So like when they replace the Mailstrom with Frozen, which
I understand why, you know, they've got to keep it
current to the kids who are going now, like, but
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I was sad because I have all of these fond
memories of the Mailstrom. So I get it on an
emotional level, you get that that disnified version of the
fairy Tale, which also I mean, like, I know you
have issues with the Hans Christian Andersen Little Mermaid one,
(09:53):
which happens to be my favorite of the Disney movies.
But I totally get great music. I get where you're
coming from, though, So I'm like, yeah, there's some valid
there's some valid points of view. We don't mean to
dismiss anyone, but um, yeah, I'm very curious to see
how this movie shakes out. I don't I don't know
that I'm hooked. I like Emily Blunt, I like Dwayne
the Rock Johnson. I don't know if I like the
(10:15):
third guy because we never learned his name or what
he does. But I don't know, Like, maybe this movie
will grab me the kind of the way the Pirates
of the Caribbean, the first one grabbed me. But but
I'm not quite feeling it yet. Yeah, me neither. It's
not like Marvel where I'm like, well, I have to
watch that. It's It's okay, it's a Disney movie. It's
an action it might be fun. So Uh, speaking of
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things that might be or not kid friendly. Uh. I'm
not sure how to segue into this, but there's a
movie coming out called The Lost City of d starring
Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum, which I didn't hear about
until this week. Honestly. Yeah, and this one made me
(10:58):
immediately think in the article points this out too, But
this one made me immediately think of a classic romantic
adventure film from the nineteen eighties called Romancing the Stone.
Like as I was looking at the still the still
image of on the article, I was like, oh, is
this like a modern version of Romancing the Stone, which
has a romance author get pulled into this wild, crazy
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adventure that could have been ripped straight from the pages
of her own book, and she ends up having all
these experiences with this this rapscallion character, and of course
the two ultimately fall for each other. Spoiler alert for
a movie that's been out for forty years. But um,
this one looks like again Neil Sandra bull explaining a
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romance author and and and Tatum Tanning Chatum as I
like to call him. That's fair, Like I I'm I'm
guaranteed to get names wrong every single time, but he's
playing He's playing the model who serves as the cover
model for her books, and the two of them are
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on a book tour together and then they get pulled
into some wild, wacky shenanigans. So I will say Channing
Tatum has grown in my heart outside of the Magic
Mike movies, no offense anybody who likes them. I just
did not. But I think he's a really funny guy
and I think he will do great in a rom com.
And Sandra Bullock, I mean, if you look at Miss
Congeniality or The Proposal or anything like that, are they
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great cinema? No, But they're perfectly enjoyable potato chip rom coms.
So yeah, it's a fun plays for an afternoon, totally
plays to her strengths. Yeah, and I think I think
if it, if it kind of pulls up the spirit
of Romancing the Stone, that could be a really fun movie.
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I mean, Sandra Bullock also obviously has a lot of
comedy action in her in her Wheelhouse too, so uh, yeah,
I think it could be a lot of fun. Like
but the first thing I thought was, wow, they've they've
sort of rebooted Romancing the Stone and I'm here for
it because that was a fun movie. I enjoyed it
as well. Now I will say it looks like it
might be pretty steamy according to some posts that Channing
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Tatum made on Instagram, so where he was wearing nothing
but a towel in the makeup room. Yes, uh, And
he's like, I'm going to have to warn my parents
before they watch this movie. So I guess you've been warned.
Are you gonna warn us about Cobra Kai season four?
Thank you, thank you for saving me throwing me a lifel. Yes,
Cobra Kai season four. I think he's finished rap filming wrapped,
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but we just got the first trailer for it. It's
like a nothing trailer, and anybody who's watched the series
knows what's going to happen. But if you're like me
and you have never seen an episode of Cobra Kai,
despite the fact that we did a mesh up about
it once upon a time, I was able to watch
this trailer and figure out what it had up. And
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in season three, Yeah, so Terry Silver is coming back.
We knew that. We knew Crease called him. We know
Creases the Big Bat and Johnny and Daniel have kind
of teamed up. Sorry for anybody who hasn't watched it yet,
but it's very obvious. Um yeah, so for those who
for those who may not be up on their Karate
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Kid lore, Crease is the guy who ran the Cobra
Kai do jo back in the original Karate Kid film
and was Johnny's sense and then Terry Silver was a
Vietnam war vet buddy of Creases, who in Karate Kid
three comes in too secretly act as kind of like
(14:46):
almost like a double agent type. He brings he's training
Daniel to fight in a different style that Miyagi won't
teach him, but it's secretly to undermine Daniel and to
cause him to uh suffer and feel payne. And now
this bad guy who was like a scenery chewing bad
(15:06):
guy in Grannie Get three is u is back for
the Cobra Kai series in some form. It's really interesting
to me because when I was watching through season three,
one of the fan theories was that Tory Nichols, who
is kind of like the main female antagonist, Um, you know,
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she's the bad girl. She's one of the love interests,
and Chris kind of takes her under his wing a
lot of people were theorizing that she might be the
daughter of Terry Silver. Um. I don't think that's been confirmed,
you know, because Season four hasn't come out yet, but
it would be interesting. I also think it's funny because
her last name is Nichols and Nichols to Silver. Yeah,
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that would be funny. Well, we're going to talk now
about the most recent trailer for m Night Shyamlon's Old
a film that has a very small cast, takes place
largely as far as we can tell, at a single location,
that being a beach, and the the premise appears to
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be that when people go to this beach, they begin
to age rapidly, and thus they have a very limited
amount of time to figure out what's happening and how
they can escape before they die of old age. Yeah,
it's I don't know. So I am very hit or
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miss on M Night Shyamlon's movies. Yeah, we know there's
going to be a twist. I don't know what it is.
Sometimes it's pretty obvious, sometimes it's not at all. Um,
but this one's it's interesting to me because I was like,
okay at the beginning of this movie, looks okay, it's intriguing,
and then the end of the trailer looked super super
(16:53):
scary to me, so I don't know if I'll be
able to sit through it. But one of the little girls,
who looks like is maybe six or seven at the
beginning of the trailer gets pregnant, So I can only
imagine that the island does more to propagate people, to
turn them old than just simply age people. I sure
hope so, because the other the other implication is absolutely
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horrifying and not in a way that I would ever
want to be depicted in a movie. So yeah, I
don't know. Like I'm not, I'm not the hugest fan
of his work. Like there's certain movies that I do
find entertaining. I mean, obviously The Sixth Sense is still
one of those movies that I think was exactly the
right movie at the right time to become a spectacular hit.
(17:41):
But yeah, like like You, a lot of his other
later films are real hit or miss with me. Some
of them are more interesting to me on an intellectual level,
but I don't find particularly entertaining to watch. Like Unbreakable,
I think is a really interesting movie, but I don't
I don't actually want like watching it, like I can't.
It's a long movie and not a lot happens in it. Um.
(18:05):
I guess I don't like watching it either, because I've
only watched it once. But it was interesting when I did. Yeah, no,
it was a neat It was a neat take on
the superhero genre. But like a lot of his movies also,
they tend to have very low replay value because they
are so reliant upon twists that once you know the twist,
(18:28):
there's there's less reason for you to watch it again
unless you're just watching to see. Okay, well, let's see
where all the indicators are as to what the twist is,
like the stuff that I didn't notice the first time
around because I wasn't aware that there was a twist.
He also has a habit of either writing himself or
(18:48):
some version of himself into the narrative, or using the
narrative as a way of addressing something specific about himself,
like not not a universal sperience, but something very specific
to him that rubs me the wrong way as well. Yeah, yeah,
that's interesting. I hadn't, I guess noticed that you gotta
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watch Lady in the Water, So I have not watched
that one, now, yeah, that one. That one is the
one I'm specifically talking about. But yeah, I got you. Well,
I might wait to see what the reviews say before
I watch it, kind of spoiler it for myself because,
like I said, it's it looks very scary. I don't
know if I could sit through it. I stood up
in the front row. Sorry if I've told you all
listeners this many times. When I watched Signs in the
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movie theater back when it first came out, I stood up.
I was in the front row of the theater because
that's all that was left. And I stood up and
screamed when the alien ran across the TV screen of
the kid's birthday party, Um, and everybody laughed at me.
So that's my threshold for h I am one movies. Yeah,
you had your own little carry white moment there in
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the theater. They're all going to laugh at you. Well,
we're going to take a break, and when we come back,
we will have that animated discussion that Ariel was kind
of alluding to at the opening of our show. All right,
(20:21):
as Jonathan and I flail wildly at each other to say,
who's going to come back in from that break? Uh,
we are. We are rusty. You throw one holiday in
there and suddenly we're like, no one knows how to
come back from a from a break one holiday that
didn't even really affect our taping schedule regardless. Okay, So,
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as Jonathan said, I alluded to this in the intro,
but we're talking about animation styles, and this was kind
of inspired by the fact that um I finished Modoc
on Hulu recently and it was very robot Chicken and
the humor was for me, like, some of it was funny,
some of it was kind of boy humor that didn't land.
(21:05):
And I don't know if that's because it's me or
if it's because of the media that it was being
presented in. I love stop motion animation, which is what
modoc is, but I wasn't sure if that was affecting
the humor level. So I was like, we should have
a conversation about animation in general. So that's what we're
gonna do. Yeah. So my general perspective on animation is
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that to me, the story is the most important thing,
Like the story needs to be good and then the
animation just needs to support the story. And that animation
could be in any format. So I enjoy pretty much
all types of animation, right Like I like stop motion animation,
I like hand drawn animation, I like computer animation. And
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the thing I don't like is when people um equate
a style of animation with quality of animation, not not
just the quality of the art, but the quality of
the experience of seeing it, because it makes me think
of like when Pisar was first doing movies for Disney,
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before Pixar became part of Disney, there was this general
feeling that because Toy Story was such a huge hit,
that the era of hand drawn animation should be over
like computer animations. Where it's at and and John Lester
is a man of many, many faults, but one of
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the things he said that I agree with is that
it wasn't so much like to him, it was never
the thing about it being computer animation, about that being
the distinct thing that set apart Toy Story. It was
that the story had a lot of heart and that
the animation was just their way of telling the story.
But that if the story was bad, it wouldn't matter
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how good the computer animation was, because he would just
look at and go, well, it looks neat, but I mean,
what else is there? I agree, I honestly was kind
of sad when Disney moved to a lot more computer
animation and Pixar style animation. I really like the two
D stuff. And even though as as Disney so a
lot of like Disney's earlier stuff all looks the same.
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If you look at like snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella,
they all have a similar style. Even when you get
into like Lion King and Aladdin and later stuff, well,
yeah you have yeah, you have certain artists whose whose
technique carries through from one movie to the next. So
you look at those early ones and you're seeing a
lot of animation that was rhodoscoped on top of actual film,
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which is also why if you're ever really bored, you
can go down the YouTube rabbit hole and look at
the various clips of different Disney animation that's all the
exact same sequence. Like there's this one dancing sequence of
you know, a young woman holding her skirt up that's
been used multiple times as used in Snow White, and
it was used in Robin Hood, and it was all
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because they were all using the same reference film and
rotoscoping the animation on top of it, so it's literally
the same animated sequence, just with different characters. But yeah,
there was a lot of There are a lot of
eras where like there was also the Dawn Bluth era,
right like A Fox and the Hound and uh, Oliver
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and Company. There was that era as well, where it
was very distinctive. That also was an era that I
don't actually don't like the movies from that era. Yeah, well,
in same with like if you get to I guess
Home on the Range, this one where they really played
with their their animation style and it's just I don't
particularly enjoy it, or I guess even kind of Treasure
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Planet they go a little more stylistic or or Hercules.
Hercules is a great example, didn't Didn't Treasure Planet and
Atlantis both come out around the same time too, like
those I think so, yeah, I think I've ever even
seen Atlantis. I would say, I think you're either in
the Treasure Planet or the Atlantis camp. And I'm totally
making this up, but based on my friends, they've either
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watched one or the other. In the Treasure Planets, yeah
that's the one I saw. Yeah, No, I actually really
liked the Hercules design, but that's because I felt like
they were taking some inspiration from uh Greek art, like
only a little bit only in the it was very
disgnified version of that. So don't like it wasn't like
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drawn straight from the urns or whatever. But I didn't
like that they were doing that. Yeah, me too, But
I feel like there's less of that now that so
much of Disney animation and Pixar movies are I guess
luca Is is a good example of not that, but
a lot of them feel very similar in the animation
style again, so yeah, yeah, I would say that, like
Tangled and Frozen look pretty similar to each other. Yeah
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that was a Pixar one though, So yeah, Brave was Pixar.
It was one of the Pixar movie les. So like
when people rank the Pixar movies, that one gets a
pretty that one usually ends up in the lower half
for a lot of people. Well, which is unfortunate because
I thought the Brave was a really interesting take on
a story. But at the same time, I was like, yeah,
it's hard for it to match up against things that
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are just so joyful like Toy Story or um uh
you know, so so emotionally uh involved, like finding Nemo
but um, yeah, for me, all the Disney stuff like
like that falls into different categories, but again mostly based
on the quality of the storytelling, not necessarily the art.
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So I can still watch like classic, the Classic Sleeping
Beauty cartoon and still enjoy that just as much as
if I were to watch Little Mermaid, which of course
has a place in my heart because I was growing
up and that was my favorite Disney film, or Tangled,
which is probably my favorite of the more recent Disney films.
Um but outside of Disney animation, there's tons of animation
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that I absolutely love, including stuff like stop motion and beyond.
So same now, except for for me, the animation is
since it is a part of the storytelling. You can
have an amazing story and it can be such I
don't want to say ugly animation, but it's what my
brain construses ugly animation, like very gross humor animation. So
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I'm thinking like Ren and Stimpy or some SpongeBob or
even Invader Zim. I think Invader Zim was the first
cartoon that kind of broached that ugly, more grotesque style
for me that I enjoyed. But like, you can take
a good story or good storytelling or good humor and
(27:42):
ruin it for me by making the characters so unpleasant
to look at that I don't appreciate it. I can
get that. I also think that you can use quote
unquote bad animation as a part of your storytelling to
make jokes, right, So like Robot Chicken does that a
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little bit because a lot of the times they're using
figures that don't have full uh pose ability, but that's
part of the joke, right, although most of the time
they end up making their own puppets that are similar
to but not actually the toy figures. Uh the same
sort of thing with Like I think of shows like
Archer where that animation style is pretty limited. It's not
(28:26):
like it's not as fully animated as some other series
are umoetically pleasing to me, it is, yeah, but there
are some where it's like the limited you know, they'll
do limited animation and that's part of the gimmick, right,
Like that's I think of Space Ghost, like they were
reusing animation with Space Ghost Coast to Coast. They were
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using a ton of animation from old Hanna Barbara cartoons,
and that to me worked really well because it it
was feeding back into the loop of this is a
a uh, let's put on a show kind of approach,
and so it and that the tone well right, it
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supported the tone. So I think, I think, really like
it comes down to having that right mix of animation
style and the storytelling where they complement each other and
support each other. That's what makes good animation. Not necessarily
that you're looking at something that required, you know, more
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hours of work or more experts to put it together.
I mean, obviously you can get really beautiful animation that way,
but it doesn't necessarily translate into a truly enjoyable experience.
I get it. I mean, I will say like I
watched the New Animaniacs and the it felt kind of
rent and stimpy to me, so I didn't enjoy it
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as much. I still enjoyed it, not quite as much.
I still haven't seen them. I actually did like the
the retro Rows style Disney cartoons that also had a
bit of a grotesque in them, especially if Goofy's in
the cartoon. Goofy is pretty grotesque in those cartoons. I
like them all, but Goofy I don't. But also I
don't like them making Goofy so gross to me. He's
(30:12):
so heartfelt. Yeah, I really enjoyed those cartoons. I don't
understand that particular decision to change Goofy that way, but man,
once they did it, they they really went all in.
So yeah, this is interesting. You know, I know we
have a lot of artsy friends and I'm hoping probably
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also artsy listeners, So I'd really love to hear what
you all think. What kind of animations do you like
or not? Like, I know, like a lot of comic
book animated movies also use very limited, uh animation in
their storytelling to feel more like a comic book, and
like I like that. Yeah, Invincible kind of feels that
way at times. Yeah, definitely, definitely, but also very very
(30:57):
gross at moments. No, Invincible Invincible. If you want to
talk about graphic violence, Invincible is got. It's got that
going on, like that, you don't have any idea of
how graphic it's going to be until you get to
the the end of the first episode and then you're
just like, WHOA, this is different from what I thought
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it was gonna be. The first episode is so endearing. Well,
and that's the thing, right, That's that's what makes that
last moment really have an enormous impact. It's not just
because it's over the top graphic violence. It's that it's
following this story that up to that point. It's kind
of lulled you into this sense of a different kind
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of story. Um. And obviously I came at it without
having read the comics, so I knew like what it
was about. I had heard things about it, and I
knew that there were elements of violence in it. I
just had no idea of the extent of it until
I watched it. Yeah. Same, I think this has been
really good. Like I said, I'm really interested to see
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what other people think about animation styles. It's always so
interesting to hear other people's opinions on this. It was
interesting to hear your opinion on this, Jonathan, uh So,
make sure to write us. We'll tell you how to
do that at the end of the show, and when
we come back from this break, we're going to take
a piece of classic animation and mash it up with
comic book property that's currently in the news. You know, Ariel,
(32:38):
when we had our animation discussion, there was one thing
that I should have mentioned that I really really really
love that uh is sort of cheesy and you don't
really see it anymore. And that's stop motion animation that
is integrated into live action movies. So I'm thinking of
like the old Harry hells and stuff. Yeah, I will
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have a deep love for that, like stuff from like
Clash of the Titans and that kind of thing, The
original Clash of the Titans, not the remake, the original
Clash of the Titans, Like I mean, that's the like
inception of Origen or drunk Collider. That was the very
third first thing we did was take his Clash of
the Titans and mash it up with Thor. Yeah, this
time we're doing something a little different. We're not doing
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those no, No, we are taking Aladdin quote unquote classic
animation and mixing it up with Green Lantern. Yes, so
we're specifically taking Disney's Aladdin. Obviously, the the story of
Aladdin predates the Disney film, but we are specifically taking
that as our point of inspiration. Now, the reason we
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picked green Lantern is because, as you alluded to before
our break, it's in the news because we have heard
about the HBO series that will feature a green lantern
and and not not the green lantern I wrote about
Momsha yeah, no, me neither. It's featuring Alan Scott, who
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was kind of like the first, kind of like he
was the first screen Lantern as far as I understand,
sort of the Golden Age of comics Screen Lantern Um
played by Jeremy Irvine, uh, who has been in various
things well. And and so for those who don't know
Alan Scott, that version of Green Lantern, as as Aeriel said,
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was from the Golden Age of comics, and uh, the Flash,
the original version of the Flash was also from the
Golden Age. And what happened was that the comic book creators,
they're looking like, comic books had had their heyday, they
had sort of died down, and now we were going
into a new era of comics, the Silver Age, which
is where most of the characters we associate with comic books,
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like classic DC characters, most of them actually really came
out of the Silver Age, not the Golden Age, right,
And they had brought back a character called the Flash,
it was not the exact same one as from the
Golden Age, and that one had started doing really well.
So they were looking at other Golden Age properties they
had and said, who else can we do? And that's
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when they brought in the Green Lantern, and this time
it was how Jordan's not Alan Scott. Alan Scott's version
of Green Lantern is a little different like in the
original comics, the Alan Scott Green Lantern his powers didn't
work on would just like Dr Who. So maybe we
should have done a Green Lantern Doctor Who mash up
(35:31):
instead of Green Lantern in Aladdin, but it's too late now. Also,
his his motto was different, so it wasn't the in
Brightest Day and Blackest Night, no evil shall escape my
sight both that everybody knows. Yeah, yeah it was. It
didn't even rhyme the original one. Um. But yeah, it's
It's funny because Jeremy Irvine in a in a tweet
(35:52):
about being cast as Allan Scott, actually quoted that version
of the Green Lantern oath. But that was that was
a How Jordan's era oath. But yeah, it's interesting that
they're going back to the Golden Age one, not the
Silver Age, which is again the one I think most
people would associate with the character of Green Lantern. I
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am very curious about that. Me too, me too. Um.
I I hope that HBO gives me something that is
somewhat uplifting as opposed to a Game of Thrones version
of Green Lantern, even though there's certainly a lot of
darkness in Green Lantern. Obviously that's what they're fighting. So yeah,
so we are now going to mash up Green Lantern
(36:39):
with Aladdin, Disney's Aladdin. Hilarity will surely ensue an Ariel.
You know what question I'm about to ask you? Who
goes first? I guess I can. Okay, all right, so
this is you like my surety there? Okay, this is
al Laddin in the Cave of Lanterns. And Jonathan said
(36:59):
that we are doing a Disney Aladdin. I'm mostly doing
the Disney Aladdin, but with a few other surprises. Learning okay.
So Senestro had been thrown back in time due to
his latest bouts with the Green Lanterns. When he finally
landed in a place and time, he found himself in
a vast desert without his ring, and without that ring,
he could not raise himself up to power in the
strange land by force in an effort to return back
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and defeat hal Jordan's. However, he was not completely lost.
You see, he was once an anthropologist, true and his
once friend Abin Sure, another green lantern, had studied Earth
history as a part of his stint as a green lantern,
and had many discussions about it with Sinestro before his death.
I guess Aben Sir found it interesting, like dr who
did fun Earth interesting? So Sinestro knew all was not lost.
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He would have to integrate himself into the graces of
the local leaders and work his way up the chain
until he could gain enough power in the region, Planet, etcetera,
to rule, or until he found his ring to do
the work for him. He searched for days in the
desert before or finding the city of Agriba. Once there,
he endeared himself to the local sultan as a trusted advisor,
(38:06):
using his knowledge of culture's technology in the future to
wow him, all the while searching for his ring. Soon, however,
the drudgery of being the Sultan's adviser took so much
time that he found himself not being able to sneak
away to locate the ring, so he found a youth
named al Laddin to help him. The kid was desperate
and no one would miss him once the ring was found,
so Seinestra sent al Laddin to the next place on
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his search list a fabled cave known as the Cave
of Wonders, with the instructions to find the ring and
bring it to him. Also, do not put the ring
on or touch anything. Once al Laddin was in the
Cave of Wonders, he found the ring, but upon picking
it up, the force was too powerful and it threw
him back into an old oil lantern. The cave collapsed
around al Laddin, leaving Seinstra to think he was dead.
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Then a magical thing happened. A blue being popped out
of the oil lantern that al Laddin had bumped into.
He introduced himself as Ganneth, the Blue Lantern, and proposed
a deal to al Laddin. He would use his great
cosmic powers to give al Laddin the life he desired
in a calm heart, if Aladdin would help him defeat Sinestro.
Ganneth had been lying in waiting the lamp and thought
(39:12):
Senestro would come down into the cave. Get greedy, grabbed
the lamp and Powi, but obviously no dice. Aladdin gave
the ring Sinestro had wanted to Ganneth for safekeeping, and
they escaped the cave. Al Laddin and Ganneth put a
planet emotion to stop Sidestro. However, during that time, al
Laddin fell in love with the Sultan's daughter, and Ganneth,
being tied so closely to emotion as a blue lantern,
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felt compelled to help him. While Ganneth was helping al
Laddin get the girl, he let his guard down and
Sinestro got his ring back. Sinestro became all powerful and
Ganneth couldn't defeat him. Ganneth through al Laddin a ring
and said here, put this on, and all of a sudden,
al Laddin became a green lantern. Just then, Jasmine, the
Sultan's daughter, pulled out her ring and also became a
green lantern, and together al Ganneth and Jasmine defeated Sinestro,
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and Ganneth was free to return to his own time
and play guarding the galaxy, the universe whatnot. But before
Ganneth did, he tasked out to help the rest of
the Lantern Corps protect against the Darkest one hundred and
one Nights. He teamed up with Scheherazad, Ali Baba and
Sindbad and the rest is history. I like it, thank you.
It is very different from mind, which I also like.
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I am excited for years Okay, they're singing in it
all right. This one is called but what if the
Genie were green? Hal Jordan has a problem. He's gone
from test pilot to mechanic after his insubordinate behavior got
him grounded by the military. He's stuck with his feet
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on the ground, head in the sky. It's okay, I know,
nothing's wrong. Wait no, I'm sorry. That's that's This must
be the place a k A naive melody by the
talking heads. Anyway, Hal has found himself in a job
he doesn't really like, working for a company that he
has mixed feeling is about. He has a crush on
the CEO of the company, Carol Ferris, but she's the
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daughter of the man whom How feels caused his own
father's death. This is all actual backstory for How Jordan's
d C comics. He's not where he belongs, is what
I'm getting at, and he could be so much greater now.
Working for the aerospace company Ferris Aircraft, How gets an
assignment to go out and work on some planes in
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the Middle East, and while on his way to a secret,
remote location so secret he's not actually allowed to fly
into the air base, he gets lost in a sudden
sandstorm along a desert road, and fearing for his safety,
he stops driving and hunkers down until he can actually see.
And when he finally can, he sees something amazing. Ahead
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of him is a strange hill, looks a bit like
a tiger's head with the mouth opening into a cave.
Drawn to this, how it gets out of his sand
covered vehicle, makes his way to that cave, and inside,
how's he's something truly phenomenal. The cave is filled with
various treasures. There are jewels and ornate decorative weapons, and gold,
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so much gold. But before he lays a hand on anything,
he hears what sounds like a weak voice calling for help.
Hal breaks into a run, heading as quickly as he
can to find out who is in trouble. And then
he sees something truly amazing. A bald man with skin
that's kind of the color of fucia, kind of like,
you know, like a sort of purple Yule Brenner. He's
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wearing a weird outfit and he's holding out a ring
in his palm. Take this how Jordan's, he says. The
ring glowing seems to call out to Jordan's He finds
himself compelled to take it from the strange man, slipping
onto his finger, and then the man says something really odd. Well, sinestro,
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the para lax full of fear and Dougleason, but your
luck levels just hit max because the bunch of friends
you're now in, you got willpower in your corner. Now,
defending the week will be your thing. You'll make all
the little kids say Wow. All you gotta do is
wear this ring in You'll say I got mad powers
now the best I've ever seen. You can fly right
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up to towers. Pal you're joining in the cor that's green.
Then the alien who's named, by the way, is Aban, Sir,
totally dies. How confused as to why a musical number
launched and then promptly fizzled out, has the ring on
his finger and nothing happens. So he points his finger
with great willpower. Nothing. He waves his hand around, nothing.
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He nudges the corpse of ab and served with the ring. Nothing. Sighing,
he rubs his hands together in a nervous gesture that
we totally saw him do earlier in the movie, even
though I forgot to mention it before now, and in
the process he rubs the ring. Suddenly the ring glows
a deep green, and the cave reverberates with a voice
that says, in the brightest day, him blackest night, no
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evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evils
might be where my power. Green lanterns light and out
pops a genie. A green Genie, How now really thrown off? Says,
did I lose my marbles in that sandstorm? The genie
laughs and explains it no. How, Jordan has just found
himself inducted into the Green Lantern core. Each member has
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a special ring which houses a genie and aspect of
willpower who acts as a liaison between what the wearer
wants and how it all comes out. Just then, the
cave begins to rumble, and How begins to run towards
the entrance, but he's never gonna make it. The genie says, hey, buddy,
you can tots fly now use the ring. How waves
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his hand some more and nothing really happens, and then
out of desperation, he says, I wish I could fly,
and he feels his feet leave the ground, and soon
he is being out of the cavern and like this
crazy display of agility that you just know is going
to get turned into a theme park ride somewhere at
some point. Anyway, he emerges from the cave genie into now.
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How says the genie, there are a few provisos, a
few quid pro quos that we have to go over.
Sure you got this power now that you are also
tasked with using it to protect others. How, looking down
at his ring and at the ground far below his feet,
feels a sense of determination. This feels right. He can
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live up to the wishes of his dearly departed father,
and he can be the hero that he had always
dreamed he might be. What follows is a montage of
How performing heroic deeds, helping people escape dangerous situations and
defeating dangerous enemies. And after months of adventuring, How turns
his eyes back home. See, there's that woman there that
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he loves but hasn't figured out how he's want to
talk to her. Her name's Carol Ferris, and so Hal
turns to the genie of the ring, who really really
sets him up. All right, So we're back at Coast City,
where Carol Ferris is getting ready to head into Ferris Aircraft,
the aerospace company where she's the CEO, but she hears
a ruckuss outside, so she looks out and she sees
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something she can't believe. It's the Eiffel Tower. Yeah. In
a moment, it appears as though Carol has somehow been
transported across the world and they're singing, it's the genie.
Carol Ferris, welcome to Paris thanks to Hal Jordan. What
a guy. Watch him fly whenever he wants. He fought
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the Seinestro core till they don't want anymore, and now
he's at your door with croissants. And then the song
ends abruptly because we got a budget. Carol, dazzled by
Hal's genie, but more with the fact that Hal finally
worked up a way to ask her out, points out
that she doesn't date employees of her company, but she's
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gonna make an exception. Oh. We also see in the
background of her closet this weird jewel is glinting at us.
It kind of looks like a sapphire. But that's an
obscure hint to a sequel that only people who are
big Green lantern fans are even going to understand. We're
just going to leave it here the end. Oh I
love that. You see, my mine always end up being
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origin stories where I just leave out the villains because
those are always the parts in origin stories that I
like the least. I like. I like learning how the
hero became the hero, but then they always have to
throw in like, well, now the hero has got a
face off against the villain, and that always feels like
the part that doesn't work in those movies for me.
So like Iron Man, aunt Man, all those kind of things.
(47:47):
So I was like, I'm just gonna skip it. See.
I felt like in Doctors Strange, though, they gave the
villain a decent enough backstory and walk through his motivations
and they were genuine, So I agree. I agree. I
think by Dr Strange they had done the formula enough
where they were able to address that a little bit.
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It still wasn't as integrated as I would have liked,
but it was better, right Like you look at Iron
Man or the First Captain American movie, or you look
at um you know, uh, aunt Man was the same.
Like a lot of those movies. The interesting stuff is
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finding out how the character became the hero, and then
you have to have them have some sort of confrontation
with a comparable villain, but you can't spend an equal
amount of time establishing the villain, right, Like, that's just
not really possible unless you want your movie to be
like Peter Jackson length um, which is kind of why
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I wish the First Captain American movie had been split
into two, because I felt like the first half of
that movie is fantastic, and the second half I could
I could just stop once it gets to the point
where they do the montage. I agree. I think a
lot of I think a lot of Marvel villains and
d C villains feel a bit rushed. Yeah, but the
exception of like like the Vulture in Spider Man was great. Right,
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it's the villains that you don't expect to be really
interesting that turned out to be the fascinating ones. But
or Loki obviously, But Loki is kind of an anti hero.
So yeah, he's an antihero. He's only sometimes villainous, which
I'm sure we'll see in the series, which starts off
very soon. So that's exciting. So we are going to
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end this episode now so that we can get ready
to pop all the popcorn for tomorrow, because we're reporting
this on Tuesday, the first of June, but we got
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have your own thoughts about animation, or if you have
your own ideas about mashups we can do or a
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and I genuinely love taking beloved properties and twisting them
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to the point where the bleak, depressing nature of underneath
comes bleeding through. Not so much this week, but man,
if you listen to the one from two weeks ago,
holy cal Yes, Yes, it was sad. It was so sad,
unexpectedly sad. I also hilarious. If you need to catch up,
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you should do that, go back and listen to those episodes. Uh,
but until next time. I have been Aerial Brightest Day Casting,
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