August 19, 2021 • 47 mins
Being a geeky fan doesn't always mean loving all the geeky things. In this week's episode, Ariel and Jonathan talk about geeky properties that just didn't work for them.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdrunk
Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the Gigi things
happening in the world around us and how very excited
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we are about them. I'm Ariel casting, and with me
as always is a Renaissance Man. Jonathan Strickland. Huzzah, Gosh, Ariel.
I think you might have tipped your hand, but I
got a question for you, Okay, peek behind the curtain.
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I did ask Ariel this question before we actually did
this episode, because it's one of those questions where you
might need to give it some thought. And while I
love watching Ariel struggle as she tries to come up
with answers, it doesn't make for the best audio because
it's just quiet. So Ariel, here's your question. You have
played a lot of different characters at the Renaissance Festival
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as a member of cast, But what is one character
you have not played but you would like a shot at.
You See, this is very difficult because I've played almost
everything you can play at Fair. I've been made, I've
been a kissing wench, I've been a musician, which people
might say doesn't count, but it totally counts because I
had a character. Um, I've been various court members and
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peasants and things like that. I've been in scenario. I've
been a combatant runner up is I would love to
be like a main villain. I played a main villain
at in scenario at Fair one year, Amelia Ownair because
he doesn't want to be Amelia Ownair. Uh. She got
downgraded from like major villain to like just Snyde court
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member because they changed scenario halfway through the year. So like,
I've been a scenario villain, but I haven't really like
been a scenario villain. But the one character, the one,
the only character I can really think of that I
haven't played. The only kind of like class of character
I haven't played is Ferry, and I think that would
be a lot of fun. Um. I would probably be
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like a water sprite or something like that. Let's go figure. Yeah,
I like it. Yeah. So I'm very curious because I
actually don't know the A Millionaire story because I wasn't
part of cast that season. Um, but was it something
where you actually did start out halfway through or start
out at the beginning of the season, with a scenario
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in one form that literally changed halfway through the season. Yes, yes,
so originally you were going to have these like and
and here's the thing like it obviously wasn't the strongest
scenario because I can't even quite tell you exactly where
it was going to be. But we had these court
members who were conspiring against the court, uh, and we're
going to be made villains and I was one of them.
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And then they brought pirates in, and then the pirates
became the villains, and the court members ended up just
doing a who's the best of Newcastle? Have a peasant
win a prize. Maybe we're trying to get the crown
or something like that. But originally all the court members
were going to be the villains trying to kind of
overthrow the royalty, and then that got moved over to pirates.
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So we just became this weird, like tertiary group of
really annoying, spoiled like nobility basically no interesting. So so
when the season started, by that time, it was already
the pirates who were the bad guys. Okay, yeah, it
was during rehearsals that it changed, and it was really bizarre.
That's that's very upsetting. I mean, so I have played
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the main villain or one of two main villains in
the festival. Of course, it helps that I wrote the scenario. Um.
Turns out, if you really, if you really want to
make sure that you've secured your spot, you just you're
the one who writes the script. Um. But yeah, that
that stinks because you would have made such a such
a fantastic villain in scenario. It's unfortunate that that got rewritten. Uh.
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And it's also funny that you said that, because my
answer for me is, so I I've played the mayor
of the town. I played the Lord Admiral, who was
kind of like Amelia Nair, you know, a snooty, nasty
kind of member of court. Um. And I've played Hugo
Haunt as town ghost, who turns out was not actually
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a ghost, but was a villager who had the job
of being town ghost, which is lead for an interesting comedy.
I played a villain who a French villain who was
very much based on uh uh, Count Rochefort from the
Three Musketeers. Um. And I played William Shakespeare. But I've
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never played a pirate. Now, I wouldn't want to steal
scenario from you. I don't want to be that kind
of pirate, but I never got to play a pirate.
And and yes, you know, we acknowledge Renaissance Fair frequently
has characters far outside the Renaissance. We have had characters
that date from the Middle Ages, like Robin Hood and such.
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And we've had characters who come after the Renaissance era,
like the Musketeers and pirates during the Golden Age of Piracy,
which is like a century and a half out of
when we would typically think of the Renaissance. But the
Renaissance Fair is a very much, you know, fantastical kind
of amusement park. And so but yeah, I I never
got a chance to play a pirate, and I think
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it would be fun to play kind of play a
gentleman pirate type character, not necessarily you know, a down
in dirty swashbuckler, but more like maybe like a Captain
Hook kind of character. You see, this will probably not
ever happen, but if you ever did go in as
like a Captain Hook character, I'd love to be yours me.
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I think, like in my brain, I've played a pirate.
I've never played like officially a pirate of fair, but
I've been Scarlet Laruge enough in your stories together that
my brain is just like, oh, yep, you've been a
pirate ariel. Yes, that's true. I have. There are a
series of stories I would tell as the Admiral where
the Admiral had this uh, this arch nemesis, a woman pirate,
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Scarlet Larouge, who frequently would take him prisoner, and the
story always ended with him uh indicating that at some
point the Admiral and Scarlett Laruge got married. But that
was a story for another time. And I always had
I always had arial stand in as she was playing
a a French noblewoman, a fashion consultant to the queen
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who wears pink, and I would explain that Scarlett Larrouge
looks an awful lot like this character, but obviously it
couldn't be the same person, because Scarlet wore red and
this person wears pink. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. Yeah,
very very silly, very cartoony. Like the the way we
played characters that are festival was over the top. We
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we always said, it's kind of like a Looney Tunes
or Muppets kind of approach to character building. Anyway, I
was curious about that and I thought like the kind
of episode we're doing today is more lucy goosey kind
of general conversation and exploring topics and getting to know
each other and each other's likes and dislikes and allowing
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our audience to get a glimpse on that. So we
want to talk a little bit about something that, uh,
we think is is relevant in in geek culture, and
that is to talk about things that just don't click
with us. And not to say that these are things
that are bad or that are poorly made, or that
don't deserve the love they get, but that for whatever reason,
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we just never connected with those properties. Yes, So I'm
going to start because this is one that I'm I'm
told i'm wrong for all the time, which is I'm
not a huge fan of Firefly. Yeah, and brown coats
or Firefly fans, uh can can be so protective of
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the thing they love that they can sometimes be somewhat
aggressive towards people who do not share that love. Yeah.
So I mean for me, it started, uh and for
anybody who has heard this story before, I apologize. It
started because I was told I should watch this show,
and every time it was on television, Uh, it would
be the Heart of Gold episode, which is the episode
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where they I think, first meet Saffron. They go to
a planet. It's got a lot of prostitutes there. Uh,
and it's an okay episode, but like when that's all
you ever see, it's like when you put on an
Enterprise and all you ever see is a vulcan showering, Like, well,
this isn't enough story to get me. So by the
time that I did watch the entire series, Wanta had
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been overhyped. Two I already had kind of this boredom
from it, and then three, like I like scoundrels as
not as much as the next person, but everybody is
a scoundrel. There's there's very little actual heroicism in it,
which somebody pointed out to me who also didn't like
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for Escape. So when I did go and watch the
entire series, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, if
every character on your show is Han Solo and there's
no Luke Skywalker, it can I can see what you
mean by getting overwhelming. I think for a lot of people.
I mean, obviously the quirky dialogue did a lot, but
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I also think that clearly the performances right, the actual
performances by the actors really drew people in. I can't
disagree with your assessment. I liked Firefly when it was
first on. As time goes on and as I reevaluate
Josh Weeden's work, uh, not just within the scope of
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knowing more about Josh Weeden as a person and but
just critically evaluating what was actually being said, my opinion
of his works has probably gone down a little bit.
Like things that I once genuinely enjoyed, I don't feel
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the desire to revisit again. It's not to say that
they were bad or that anyone working on those shows
did a bad job. Also doesn't help that, um uh,
it's Adam Baldwin, I believe right who played James. It
doesn't help that I find that particular actors personal uh
beliefs and behaviors to be rather distasteful, and that doesn't
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like it's hard for me to watch something with him
in it. Same with Chuck. The performances were really good,
and you know the that you can really like characters
if even if you don't like the story that they're in.
I have a couple of others, But what about you,
geez Ariel, I mean like the ones that didn't click
with me are ones that will get me so much hate. Um.
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And so I'll give you two. You can choose whichever
one you want to talk about more with me. But
Avatar the Last Airbender is one of them, and Doctor
Who is another one, And those fan bases are incredibly
passionate about those properties, and I just don't get either
of them. I mean, but you see, I really want
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to talk about them both. But okay, well we'll do
that if we have time. So let's talk about Doctor Who. Why,
as an avid Doctor Who fan, having grown up with it, um,
why did it not click with you? This is an
excellent question, and I'm not certain I can fully answer it.
I So, I a Doctor Who was one of those
things that I was tangentially aware of when I was
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a kid, Like I was aware of the old series
before it went on a very long hiatus, um. And
in fact, I was going to science fiction conventions where
some of the actors who had played some of the
Doctor there's, like John per Twee, would be guests at
those conventions, and I could see that there was a
genuine love. But I never I had never watched the show,
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and whenever I saw a clip, it always looked like
a very low budget, slow talky kind of show, and
at the time it just didn't interest You mean like
a BBC show, Yeah, um, like a like a Shakespeare
play but with robots. I guess, I don't know. It
just wasn't doing anything for me as a kid. So
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I know I get that even though Shakespeare with robots
sounds like it's up, you're out. Oh no, today I
would eat that up. But as a kid, it just
to me it was too slow. I didn't I didn't
care for it. Then flash forward to the reboot with
Chris eccleston coming in as the new doctor. Um, I
just I didn't get on the ground floor because I
didn't have that connection to the older doctors to like
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have that point where I felt the hook to watch
the new stuff. I finally started watching the New Stuff
after hearing multiple friends gush about it, and the first
few eccleston episodes didn't get me at all. It wasn't
until the one where it's the kids with the gas
masks dances. Yes, that's the one that got me, only
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because the doctor has that moment where he realizes that
he can save everyone, and he is legitimately joyful and excited,
and you realize that the reason for that is because
it's such a rare thing that he usually has to
resign himself to the fact that no matter what he does,
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someone is going to suffer. And for it to be
a situation where he can actually rescue everyone, it is
something truly special and that connected with me. I felt that, like,
I was like, Wow, this is for the first time
for watching these I feel something. Yeah. And then I
tried to watch more of it and I was like,
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it's just not like I watched all the way through
the Tenants stuff. I got through Smith, I think, and
then I stopped. Um, yeah, and then I just it
just again, like I kept watching out of almost a
sense of obligation, but it never connected to me again
on that same level. I get it. For For me,
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those two episodes Empty Child and The Doctor Dances are
the best episodes of the reboot, just flat out because
they do connect so well. They're scary, their tents, they're
so very human. Um, which is a weird thing to
say about a show about nannites and and aliens, but um,
it's It's definitely one of those things where the show
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has so many different tones to it that you almost
need to pinpoint the episodes you like and then have
someone who likes it all go in and say, Okay,
just watch these episodes and I'll give you the wiki
articles to fill in the gaps between them. And even
for me and I love Doctor Who, there are just
spans of it that I'm like, that episode was okay,
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that that was just me wasting an hour, and I
think the next time that it really really hit me.
There were there were a few moments, but it was
the most recent Doctor not Jenny Whittaker, but Peter Capaldi.
His second season with Bob, who is his second companion
after Clara Um was really good because again it hit
some of those those moments of I'm tired, I can't
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save everybody, and that's wearing on me again whenever they
hit those tones, like it's such a more genuine experience,
but it's so far and few between. We know that
these properties to some degree or another, uh have fan
bases that genuinely love those shows. I mean, like Ariel
loves Dr Who and I just don't get it. We also,
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you know, again, understand this doesn't make those shows bad.
It just means that for whatever reason, we didn't connect
with them, It didn't touch that that geek button inside
of us that makes us, you know, explore everything about
the show and devour it and like learn about all
the extra material around the show, whether it's behind the
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scenes or stuff that connects things like the comic books
and novelizations and all that. It just didn't hit hit
for us, And that's okay. Like, I think it's good
to know that it's okay to be a geek about
some things and have other things just not work for
you and that's fine. Yeah, I mean that's part of
the nice thing about media is there's there's such a
diverse amount of it that everything isn't going to hit
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every person the same way, right, Yeah, And and it's okay,
like yeah, and it And also if you happen to
be one of those people where you just don't get it,
like there are people going gaga about this thing and
you just don't get it. I mean, I know it
can be tempting to sometimes say, like this just doesn't
work or whatever, but you know, let people enjoy what
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they like and just accept that, like, Okay, this just
wasn't for me. I mean, I get it. Sometimes that happens.
That's a lesson I've had to learn the hard way
because I was definitely one of those internet jerks who
would chime in, like, but actually the thing you like
isn't good objectively, And I'll prove it in this fourteen
page essay I like to call Jonathan is a total jerk.
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But I've grown since then. Well that's too bad, because
after this break, we're going to let you give an
essay on the things that you like that not other
people did like because they're total jerks. Fair enough, Okay,
Well they get to that right after this break. So Ariel,
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we talked. I don't know if you remember this. It
happened like fifteen seconds ago, but we talked about things
that just didn't connect with us that other people genuinely like,
and we kind of talked about why it just didn't
work for us. Now we're going to talk about things
we liked that, for some reason or another didn't seem
to gather the ground swell of support they would need
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to continue being a thing. So with that in mind,
and I know you've got a couple where they lasted
a long time. But in those cases, the audience was
really a niche audience, and it was sort of special circumstances.
But why don't you talk about a property or series
that you really like that you feel just I just
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didn't catch on to a wide mainstream audience. Okay, So uh,
it's hard because Far Escape is the top of that list,
because when I talk to someone who likes general sci fi,
most of them haven't watched it. It's people who are
into all things sci fi that tend to have watched.
An exception of Jonathan, I'm guilty of not having watched
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I think I may have seen maybe twenty minutes of
Our Escape total, and and like it's It's interesting to
me because when I first watched it, I didn't watch
it when it originally aired. I saw it was coming out.
I was super interested into it because who doesn't like
Muppets in Space. I mean, that's that's the worst Muppet movie.
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I mean it is Muppets in Space is the worst.
I think it's Muppets from Space. But that's the worst
Muppet movie. Yeah, well Muppets from Space, Pigs in Space regardless,
sci fi and Muppets to me are fun. Even though
that movie was bad, it has nothing to do with
for our escape, and so I was like, Jim Henson,
Jim Henson helping with the science fiction to bring all
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these aliens to life, that just sounds amazing. And then
I missed it, and then my husband brought me back
to it and I watched it, and like the first
two or three episodes, I was like, I don't know
if I could get into this because the puppets just
seem to attached to puppety for the rest of the story,
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which is not me at all, Like that's not how
I think about puppets ever, really um, But then somewhere
in the middle of the first season, it's really one
of those shows to me that you've got to watch
through the first half of the first season, which is
just okay, and then towards the end of the first
season beginning of the second it really gets its ground
and figure figures out what it wants to be and
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gets ridiculous and then it's just a ton of fun
slash gut wrenching. But again, it's one of those things
that like, if you aren't familiar with it and you
go into it, those first few episodes may not catch you,
and it's it's really a hidden gem, you know, even
for shows that ended up getting pretty popular and there
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are considered kind of the foundations of science fiction, at
least at least the current era of science fiction, stuff
like Star Trek the Next Generation. I challenge anyone, anyone
listening to this podcast to go back and watch the
first season of Star Trek the Next Generation and ask
yourself the question does this show deserve to get renewed
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for a second season and come up with a positive
because that first season was rof Yes. The The other
show that is very much like that for me is
Lost because you have to get through the first ten
episodes before anything really intriguing happens. That explains why I
dropped off. In fact, I made a very good friend
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of mine watched the first ten episodes, and by the
end of it, she was like, I'm done. I hate
I don't want to watch any more of the show.
I'm like, but now it's going to get good. She's like,
but now I don't want to watch anymore. Um, and
I know a lot of people had problems throughout. It
seemed many times like the writers were just throwing darts
at a dartboard. Is the best description I've heard of it,
it's not my own. And then making the actors do
improv scenes based on where the darts ended to tell
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the story. Um. And then the scene you see a
polar bear. Yes. And then the ending was much like
so many other sci fi shows that Pete got a
pretty big following, was very very hum For many people,
they didn't like it, but um, yeah, that's another one
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that I actually really like. I didn't mind the ending.
I didn't mind the first ten episodes getting into it.
Um yeah, I enjoyed it for what it was, which
was a big old train wreck. But but Lost, Lost
actually had a really big following, like it was definitely
one of those that had people talking week to week
like the two shows. I can remember people at work
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talking about We're Survivor, a reality TV series that I
have very low opinions of, and then Lost and Uh,
I didn't watch Lost when it first came on, so
I tried watching it when it hit Netflix. And I
think Lost is one of those shows that benefits from
having a week between episodes, because that gives you that
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chance to have, like all the theories and speculate what
does this mean and wonder what's going to happen next
and build anticipation and enthusiasm, whereas when you can just
bene it and find out the answer immediately afterward, you
don't benefit from that that gap, right Like we saw
that with One Division and Falcon and the Winter Soldier,
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we're seeing it now with Loki. That when you get
to the end of an episode, you you are eagerly
anticipating the next one, and because you cannot immediately gratify
that desire, you are left to ruminate on what you've seen.
So I never got into Lost, Um, but for me
like a show that I genuinely loved, but it just
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never got enough. There's actually two I can tell you about,
because there's one I just remembered. So there's one from
the early nineties. I don't even know if you've seen it,
arial but it was called Wizards and Warriors. It lasted
six episodes. It was a series where you had Eric
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Graystone the hero and Dirk Blackpool the villain. Um and
it was I would say it was sort of a
predecessor two shows like Xena and Hercules. You know, those
sort of comedic action fantasy shows, the shows that they're
not comedies, but they have a lot of comedic elements
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worked into them. Wizards of Warriors was that way. I
had a lot of comedic moments built into the show.
Was this based off of the old game Wizards and Warriors.
This was just a fantasy action series, and it was
in the early nineteen eighties, so everyone had the eighties hair,
um and you. It was just really entertaining. I actually
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have a a don't tell anyone, everyone out there listening,
don't tell anyone. I have a bootleg. I have a
bootleg DVD of that series because it never lasted beyond
like six episodes, so these are all like taped off
the television episode that have been burned to DVD. Um.
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But it's it's a really entertaining show. I don't think
I have watched it. I'm looking at pictures and like
the main who I'm guessing is the main dude? It
looks familiar, but well if you if you've seen the Warriors,
then that would be why he So it's an actor
who's been in lots of other stuff, everything with the
name Warrior, with the word warrior. We'll talk about him later,
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but uh yeah, it's maybe so Ariel and I are
gonna be hanging out later this month, which is exciting
because I haven't seen you in ages. Later this month
when we're recording this. I don't know when this will air,
but later this month, we're gonna hang out and maybe
I'll bring the DVD so we can watch some of it,
because it is cheesy, and I think it's the sort
of cheesy that the friends who will be at that
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gathering will be into, um, So I'll use that one
my other one just to mention it. I won't go
into detail because we're going to run over time otherwise,
but the other one I would love I would mention
is The advent Cheurs of Briscoe County, Jr. Which was
a science fiction western starring Bruce Campbell as the aforementioned
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Briscoe County Jr. And was really fun and quirky, but
it also got a little too wrapped up in its
own lore um to the point where halfway through that
that season, you just felt like, this show is way
too convoluted. And then I think the show runners since that,
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and they very quickly wrapped up that storyline in a
not terribly satisfying way in order to make it a
more straightforward western comedy. Series, but by then it was
already too late and the series and the series was canceled,
which is a shame because I think it might be
my favorite thing that I've seen Bruce Campbell do. It
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is it is incredibly charming and Um, the actor who
played show enough in the Last Dragon played a bounty
hunter named Lord Bowler. He has sadly passed away since then,
but Lord Bowler was a great comedic foil to Briscoe
County Jr. It was just a fun show. Um, But
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you know it's interesting. We're going to now go into
another break and when we come back, we're going to
mash up a couple of properties, which we will talk
about a little bit before we go into our our
various mashups. I will say, uh Ariel and I we
haven't shared our mashups with each other yet, but we've
each said that for once, we did not go with
a comedy approach. So get ready for some serious mashing
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up after this break. Okay, Ariel, We've got two properties
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were mashing up, and one of them we have already
mentioned in this episode, which is Lost. So do you
mind giving people like a brief overview of what Lost is?
Just in case they're not. They're like me and they're
one of those people just missed out on the whole thing. Sure,
So Lost is a story about a bunch of people
on Oceanic flight eight fift that crashes on a mysterious island. Uh.
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The entire show is them trying to get off the
island and back home as crazy, weird things happen around
the island. There's like polar bears, There's a mysterious smoke
monster that makes horrible noises and rattles trees. Eventually you
find out that there uh spoiler for anybody who wants
to watch it. There are the others who were a
part of the Dharma initiative who liked this island for
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it's like temporal properties, it's moving around in spacetime kind
of Um. It was very convoluted. They always changed things.
They killed off a lot of characters you liked, like
precursory Game of Thrones, if Game of Thrones was modern
and not about royalty. Um, but it was you know,
it was always fun and interesting to hard to figure
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out where they were going to go. They had numbers
that kept popping up, and they had this whole like
mini cosmo around the show where people would try to
get these clues and figure out what was going to
happen next and what was going on and who knows
if there ever really were answers to it. I did
not have that much time to invest into the show,
but it was it was a good a good sci
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fi based on Survivor. I suppose well it was. It
was one of again, it was one of those things
that generated a lot of talk between episodes, like it
gave people plenty of time to to formulate theories, some
of which maybe the show runners saw and maybe even
incorporated into the show or specifically steered the show away
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from uh there. You know, there haven't been too many
discussions that went into how much, if at all, the
fans affected the direction of Lost Um, but it was
definitely one of those that had, like that really passionate
fan base that was eager to you discussed their own
theories about what was actually happening, and there was just
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enough mystery to keep that going. If you're not like
someone like me, yeah, until the end of the show,
when everybody just swore it off because it didn't like
the ending, unless you me, yeah, so then we have
Lost in Space Now Lost in Space started off as
a television sci fi uh drama dy I guess you
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could say like it was more of a drama but
with lots of little comedic moments as well, in which
you have a family, the Robinson's, who are sent to
go as sort of a an early colonization group to
a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri. And they've got a pilot,
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Major Don West, who is in charge of a ship,
the Jupiter Too. Uh. And they then are sabotaged by
a guy named Dr Zachary Smith who is trying to
sabotage the ship on behalf of some government that's never
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actually revealed. Uh. And he's he sabotages a robot on
the show, it's referred to as the robot. He doesn't
get a name or it doesn't get a name. Um.
And then eventually Dr Smith, as the character is known,
He's caught aboard the ship after he sabotages it, so
he ends up having to try and revive the crew
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out of cryostasis in order to rescue his own hide.
The group get Lost in Space, and Dr Smith throughout
the rest of the series is sort of a comedic villain,
like a cowardly, villainous character. He gets more comedic as
the show goes on. And that's the original incarnation of
the show. Of course, there was a movie adaptation that
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changed things quite a bit, uh, and that was pretty dark.
And there was a two thousand eighteen reboot of the
series on Netflix which also changed things quite a bit,
including changing the the gender of Dr Smith, which was
you know, had Um Parker posey I think, yeah, playing
that role now in my mashup. At least, I went
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with the original Lost in Space because I have a
very tenuous connection with it. Interesting. You'll have to get
into that when you get to your mashup. I also
went with the original Lost in Space because I'm not
caught up on the current one. Okay, well, who would
you like to go first? Knowing that both of these
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are more on the dramatic side than the comedic side,
I'll go first, all right. This is called Lost in
the Hatch. It's been a week since the passengers of
Oceanic Flight eight fifteen woke up on the island, a
week plagued with strange occurrences like mysterious cases of food
rations marked Jupiter two Initiative Polar bears and weird electromagnetic fields,
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all accompanied by a creepy, groaning, roaring, mechanical noise from
an unseen monster in the woods. And that's when he
shows up, Doctor Zachary Smith, claiming to be a passenger
on flight eight fifteen along with his wife and children.
No one recognized him, but since the plane had broken
in half during the crash, everyone in the makeshift camp
cautiously believed him. When asked where his family was, doctor
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Smith said he had lost them and the crash and
was looking for them. He singled out John Locke, a
gentleman who had once been in a wheelchair but now
could walk, to help him, saying that he was a
man of science and he needed a man of faith
to help him see signs he might overlook that would
lead him in the right direction. While the rest of
the survivors continued to try to find a way to
be rescued off the island, doctor Zachary Smith, John Locke,
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and a couple of others Boone and Hurley to be named,
went off in search of doctor Smith's family. The search
party was only a short way into their quest when
they heard the ominous, groaning, roaring mechanical sound. Ah the
smoke monster, run, yelled hurly. This way, shouted Dr Smith
as the trees in front of them began to shake.
When they stopped running from the monster, they realized they
were standing on top of a giant hatch. On the
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hatch were the numbers zero, two, nine, ten, sixteen nineteen.
Dr Smith told, I recognize all those numbers. Yay. Dr
Smith told the group, my family must be hiding in there.
Let's break in, and that's what they tried to do.
In their attempt to break into the hatch. Lock injured
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his leg, but they did make it in and that's
when they saw it. A man, a woman, and their
two children frozen in chambers, and one chamber opened with
the name Z Smith on the outside. But just as Lock,
Boone and Hurley were perplexing over this, they heard the
monster noise again, but this time it was much closer
and it was saying something day we Robinson, very thank you.
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The monster was in the hatch. Dr Smith yelled for
them to quickly to get the family out of the
pods and the hatch before the monster got them. But
before they could do that, the monster appeared. Locke being
injured was unable to run away and prepared for the worst,
but the worst never came. In head the monster, which
was a robot, corner Dr Smith. Dr Smith yelled for help,
but the search party refused until they were told what
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was really going on. So Dr Smith, with no other alternatives,
told them in sort of a villainy monology way, he
had launched into space with a family called the Robinsons
in an effort to get to an earthlike planet around
the Alpha Centauri star. However, due to complications that he
insisted were no fault of his own, they got knocked
off course and crash landed on this island, and upon landing, he,
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the robot, and the supplies and the ship were strewn
across the island. The hatch was actually the spaceship, but
it was so damaged in the crash it couldn't take
off with the crew inside of it, which was also
a lie. Dr Smith just wanted to get rid of
the Robinsons. At first. Dr Smith didn't even know where
he was, and for the last seven years now he
was trying to get off the island and back on
his journey. The Monterey robot wouldn't let him remove the
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crew which he was insisting had to be off for
the spaceship to take off, as it was protecting the
young boy will So Doctor Smiths goal was to get Lock,
Boone and Hurley to remove the family, destroy the robot,
and then Dr Smith would take off in the spaceship
back on his mission, leaving everyone behind. At first, Lock
and the rest of them thought Dr Smith was crazy
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there was no mission to space that year, but then
they noticed the numbers on the hatch directly matched his
story and he must be from an alternate timeline. Once
they realized he was from an alternate timeline, they decided
to revive the Robinson's out the doctor and take the
spaceship back through the wormhole and off the island. The
three survivors went back and told the rest of the passengers.
They all went to the hatch, dug out the spaceship,
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prepared it, and shot off into space. It was an
exceptionally rough ride and everyone passed out. The next thing
we know, we're viewing a closeup of an eye on
a beach, and as we zoom out, we find out
that all of the passengers of flight eight fifteen are back,
freshly crashed on the beach along with the Robinson's and
their robot, and there is a loud, scary, groaning, roaring,
mechanical noise from the jungle. M cliffhanger, Cliffinger, I've been
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doing this lately. Mine also ends in a cliffhanger, because
I mean this is a series, right, like you're talking
about Lost, That's what that's kind of how it do.
So um mine is called Lost Lost in space space
h Young Will Robinson has a problem, or, as the
robot would say, danger, Will Robinson. The young lads strayed
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a bit too far from the Jupiter eight fifteen. While
exploring the surroundings of the mysterious island that served as
the crash site for the latest of the spaceship's catastrophes,
Willard moved just a bit too far from the supervision
of his family when he sees something truly odd in
the Jungle Islands. Vegetation and it's substantial form, almost as
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if made from smoke, seems to be moving through the
shadowy space between trees, and even the young will can
sense it has menace, But before he can escape, the
smoke is on him and he cries out, only to
have his scream suddenly cut short. Meanwhile, back at the
landing site, Major Don West and the robot here Young
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Robinson's cry. Thinking quickly, West asks the robot if it
could determine where Robinson was. The robot gives a general
direction and estimated distance, indicating Robinson's last known position. West
tells Will's parents, Professor John Robinson and Dr Maureen Robinson,
and West elects to bring Judy, the eldest Robinson child,
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and the robot and Doctor Zachary Smith with him. Dr
Smith doesn't seem thrilled by the prospect. John, Maureen and
their daughter Penny stay behind, worried but working harder on
making repairs to the Jupiter eight fift. West and crew,
following in Will's footsteps, reached the point where Will last was.
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From there they see all signs of Will's presence come
to an end, as if he had been plucked off
the ground somehow. West decides the group should split up
and search. He and Judy Will go in one direction,
and Smith and the robot in another. Meanwhile, Will Robinson
wakes up in a strange place. It seems like he's
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in some sort of military bunker. The smoke Monster is
nowhere to be found, but at the same time, there's
no way for Will to get out. The hatch to
the bunker seems to be locked from the outside, but
inside the bunker is a very old computer terminal. Will,
determined to put his knowledge of computer science to the task,
attempts to make it work. We come back to Judy
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and Major West, who find an odd metallic panel in
the jungle. On it is a symbol that looks familiar.
It's an octagonal shape who lines inside it and the
word dharma in the middle. I've seen this before, says Judy.
Major West agrees that it is familiar, but neither can
quite place where they had seen it. Meanwhile, the robot
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and Dr Smith are in another part of the jungle,
where Smith is spending his time calling the robot trittorious
transistorized trash heat. But then suddenly the robot spots a
sign of the hatch, and Dr Smith, in a moment
of desperation, fakes a stumble and air quotes falls over,
crying out who the pain the pain of a tool?
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The robot tells Dr Smith to stay there and it
will fetch help from back at the Jupiter. So the
robot leaves and we see a sly smile on Dr
Smith's face. Cut to Major West and Judy as they
work their way back through the jungle, they spot something impossible.
There in the tropical jungle is what looks like a
polar bear moving off in the underbrush. Before the two
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can get a good look, however, it's gone. Having found
no signs of will, and convinced that moving further without
help would be a mistake, they decided to retrace their
steps to where their group first split up. Back at
the Jupiter eight fifteen, John and Maureen are deep in
conversation when the robot returns, alerting them to Smith's air
quotes in injury. Marine decides she will go to tend
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to the doctor, but then realizes that Penny is missing.
Looking for her, they find her cuddling with a little
polar bear cub, whom she has named Bloop two. John
and Marine are left wondering how in the heck a
polar bear ended up on a tropical island. Maureen then
heads off to tend to Dr Smith. Major West and
Judy returned to their starting point and see that Smith
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and the robot haven't returned yet, so they decided to
follow their tracks to catch up with them, and as
they do, they see Dr Smith studying the hatch carefully.
Judy gasps quietly and says to West, I know where
I've seen that symbol, the one from the metal panel.
It's on one Dr Smith's old lab coats. And then
they realize Dr Smith has secretly worked for the Dharma Initiative.
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What's he doing, asked Judy. It looks to me like
he's trying to figure out how to cover up that hatch,
says Don. The two decide that's enough and they walk
up to the door, who immediately says he was, in
fact trying to figure out how to open the hatch
in case the young Will Robinson were inside. Don doesn't
seem to buy it, showing that it is just a
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simple crank to open the hatch. But before he even
lays hands on it, the wheel on the hatch turns
by itself and pops open. All three step back involuntarily,
and out from the hatch comes Young Will Robinson. I
found the controls in an old computer. It's really old,
maybe as old as you. Dr Smith, Smith, shocked and appalled,
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rolls his eyes, and then Maureen and the robot show up.
Marina is surprised to see that Smith is actually up
and about, and the doctor then tries to explain that
it turned out just to be a mild spring say
Dr Smith says, Major West, what is dharma? Smith, shocked,
seems at a loss for words, and while searching for
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something to say, a new voice speaks out, I believe
I can nce or that. The group turns to see
black smoke coalescing into a human form, a man wearing
all black, and then we see the show's credits. We'll
have to wait for the next episode to find out
what happens. I would watch her version of this show. Well,
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uh so so my my connection to Lost in Space.
The actor who played Will Robinson is a guy named
Bill Mouey, and uh Bill Mouey also was a founding
member of the novelty music band Barnes and Barnes, most
famous for the song fish Heads Eat Them Up Yum. Anyway,
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Bill Mooey was a guest at a local science fiction convention.
My dad was also a guest at that same convention,
and my mom loved to make costumes for me and
my sister. At that particular convention, I was wearing a
Danger Mouse costume. For those who don't know, Danger Mouse
was a British cartoon where you had a mouse kind
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of like in the style of James Bonds, very very silly,
very heavy on the puns and sight gags, and I
loved it. So I had this Danger Mouse costume and
it looked really good, like my mom made a mascot
level costume. Turns out Bill Mooney huge Danger Mouse fan,
and so he saw me in costume, and there was
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a camera crew that was shooting little bits of the
convention and airing it on the local UH public broadcast
station during a Doctor Who marathon and and essentially advertising
the fact that there was this convention, to to have
people come out and be part of it and um.
And so when Bill Mooey saw me, he said, I'll
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be glad to do an on camera thing, but I
have to have Danger Mouse with me. And so I
ended up getting to hang out with Bill Mooey for
like a couple of hours as he was shooting stuff
and having me on camera. I didn't speak or anything.
You couldn't tell it was me because it was in costume.
But it was fun. That is absolutely adorable. Yea also
pretty pretty sweet. You made mention to Bloop, and then
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I had to go, what did blue look like? And
it was very upsetting to look at that. Well, this
was blue too, in a very cute polar bear cup. Yes,
Bloop original was an arrange an orangutang. I believe it
was an orangutan, yeah, or a chimpanzee. No, No, you're right,
it was a chimpanzee. It was a chimpanzee with a
very large prosthetic head um on top of its head, yeah,
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which just looked sad. Yeah, which I think officially Penny
named that Debbie, if I'm not mistaken, But but it
was known as Bloop because of the noise it would make. Um. Yeah.
And so that's that's our episode, and we're going to
do a few more of these episodes. Frequently we record
these because occasionally one of us needs to go out
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of town or something like that, and so instead of
trying to cover news that might be very stale by
the time you hear it, we thought we would do
more Evergreen episodes for those rare occas asians where we
can't just cover or breaking news. Otherwise I'd be talking
about Benedict Cumberbatch saying he's not going to play thron
and uh, you know stuff like that. Yeah. No, he
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says he doesn't want to be in a makeup chair
for hours on end because he misses his kids, which
I think is totally valid. Um. But yeah, so we would.
We'll be doing these occasionally. So if you ever hear
one that's like this, that's what that's about. And if
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I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdrunk
Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the Gigi things
happening in the world around us and how very excited
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we are about them. I'm Ariel casting, and with me
as always is a Renaissance Man. Jonathan Strickland. Huzzah, Gosh, Ariel.
I think you might have tipped your hand, but I
got a question for you, Okay, peek behind the curtain.
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I did ask Ariel this question before we actually did
this episode, because it's one of those questions where you
might need to give it some thought. And while I
love watching Ariel struggle as she tries to come up
with answers, it doesn't make for the best audio because
it's just quiet. So Ariel, here's your question. You have
played a lot of different characters at the Renaissance Festival
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as a member of cast, But what is one character
you have not played but you would like a shot at.
You See, this is very difficult because I've played almost
everything you can play at Fair. I've been made, I've
been a kissing wench, I've been a musician, which people
might say doesn't count, but it totally counts because I
had a character. Um, I've been various court members and
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peasants and things like that. I've been in scenario. I've
been a combatant runner up is I would love to
be like a main villain. I played a main villain
at in scenario at Fair one year, Amelia Ownair because
he doesn't want to be Amelia Ownair. Uh. She got
downgraded from like major villain to like just Snyde court
(01:57):
member because they changed scenario halfway through the year. So like,
I've been a scenario villain, but I haven't really like
been a scenario villain. But the one character, the one,
the only character I can really think of that I
haven't played. The only kind of like class of character
I haven't played is Ferry, and I think that would
be a lot of fun. Um. I would probably be
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like a water sprite or something like that. Let's go figure. Yeah,
I like it. Yeah. So I'm very curious because I
actually don't know the A Millionaire story because I wasn't
part of cast that season. Um, but was it something
where you actually did start out halfway through or start
out at the beginning of the season, with a scenario
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in one form that literally changed halfway through the season. Yes, yes,
so originally you were going to have these like and
and here's the thing like it obviously wasn't the strongest
scenario because I can't even quite tell you exactly where
it was going to be. But we had these court
members who were conspiring against the court, uh, and we're
going to be made villains and I was one of them.
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And then they brought pirates in, and then the pirates
became the villains, and the court members ended up just
doing a who's the best of Newcastle? Have a peasant
win a prize. Maybe we're trying to get the crown
or something like that. But originally all the court members
were going to be the villains trying to kind of
overthrow the royalty, and then that got moved over to pirates.
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So we just became this weird, like tertiary group of
really annoying, spoiled like nobility basically no interesting. So so
when the season started, by that time, it was already
the pirates who were the bad guys. Okay, yeah, it
was during rehearsals that it changed, and it was really bizarre.
That's that's very upsetting. I mean, so I have played
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the main villain or one of two main villains in
the festival. Of course, it helps that I wrote the scenario. Um.
Turns out, if you really, if you really want to
make sure that you've secured your spot, you just you're
the one who writes the script. Um. But yeah, that
that stinks because you would have made such a such
a fantastic villain in scenario. It's unfortunate that that got rewritten. Uh.
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And it's also funny that you said that, because my
answer for me is, so I I've played the mayor
of the town. I played the Lord Admiral, who was
kind of like Amelia Nair, you know, a snooty, nasty
kind of member of court. Um. And I've played Hugo
Haunt as town ghost, who turns out was not actually
(04:29):
a ghost, but was a villager who had the job
of being town ghost, which is lead for an interesting comedy.
I played a villain who a French villain who was
very much based on uh uh, Count Rochefort from the
Three Musketeers. Um. And I played William Shakespeare. But I've
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never played a pirate. Now, I wouldn't want to steal
scenario from you. I don't want to be that kind
of pirate, but I never got to play a pirate.
And and yes, you know, we acknowledge Renaissance Fair frequently
has characters far outside the Renaissance. We have had characters
that date from the Middle Ages, like Robin Hood and such.
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And we've had characters who come after the Renaissance era,
like the Musketeers and pirates during the Golden Age of Piracy,
which is like a century and a half out of
when we would typically think of the Renaissance. But the
Renaissance Fair is a very much, you know, fantastical kind
of amusement park. And so but yeah, I I never
got a chance to play a pirate, and I think
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it would be fun to play kind of play a
gentleman pirate type character, not necessarily you know, a down
in dirty swashbuckler, but more like maybe like a Captain
Hook kind of character. You see, this will probably not
ever happen, but if you ever did go in as
like a Captain Hook character, I'd love to be yours me.
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I think, like in my brain, I've played a pirate.
I've never played like officially a pirate of fair, but
I've been Scarlet Laruge enough in your stories together that
my brain is just like, oh, yep, you've been a
pirate ariel. Yes, that's true. I have. There are a
series of stories I would tell as the Admiral where
the Admiral had this uh, this arch nemesis, a woman pirate,
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Scarlet Larouge, who frequently would take him prisoner, and the
story always ended with him uh indicating that at some
point the Admiral and Scarlett Laruge got married. But that
was a story for another time. And I always had
I always had arial stand in as she was playing
a a French noblewoman, a fashion consultant to the queen
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who wears pink, and I would explain that Scarlett Larrouge
looks an awful lot like this character, but obviously it
couldn't be the same person, because Scarlet wore red and
this person wears pink. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. Yeah,
very very silly, very cartoony. Like the the way we
played characters that are festival was over the top. We
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we always said, it's kind of like a Looney Tunes
or Muppets kind of approach to character building. Anyway, I
was curious about that and I thought like the kind
of episode we're doing today is more lucy goosey kind
of general conversation and exploring topics and getting to know
each other and each other's likes and dislikes and allowing
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our audience to get a glimpse on that. So we
want to talk a little bit about something that, uh,
we think is is relevant in in geek culture, and
that is to talk about things that just don't click
with us. And not to say that these are things
that are bad or that are poorly made, or that
don't deserve the love they get, but that for whatever reason,
(07:48):
we just never connected with those properties. Yes, So I'm
going to start because this is one that I'm I'm
told i'm wrong for all the time, which is I'm
not a huge fan of Firefly. Yeah, and brown coats
or Firefly fans, uh can can be so protective of
(08:09):
the thing they love that they can sometimes be somewhat
aggressive towards people who do not share that love. Yeah.
So I mean for me, it started, uh and for
anybody who has heard this story before, I apologize. It
started because I was told I should watch this show,
and every time it was on television, Uh, it would
be the Heart of Gold episode, which is the episode
(08:31):
where they I think, first meet Saffron. They go to
a planet. It's got a lot of prostitutes there. Uh,
and it's an okay episode, but like when that's all
you ever see, it's like when you put on an
Enterprise and all you ever see is a vulcan showering, Like, well,
this isn't enough story to get me. So by the
time that I did watch the entire series, Wanta had
(08:54):
been overhyped. Two I already had kind of this boredom
from it, and then three, like I like scoundrels as
not as much as the next person, but everybody is
a scoundrel. There's there's very little actual heroicism in it,
which somebody pointed out to me who also didn't like
(09:16):
for Escape. So when I did go and watch the
entire series, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, if
every character on your show is Han Solo and there's
no Luke Skywalker, it can I can see what you
mean by getting overwhelming. I think for a lot of people.
I mean, obviously the quirky dialogue did a lot, but
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I also think that clearly the performances right, the actual
performances by the actors really drew people in. I can't
disagree with your assessment. I liked Firefly when it was
first on. As time goes on and as I reevaluate
Josh Weeden's work, uh, not just within the scope of
(09:57):
knowing more about Josh Weeden as a person and but
just critically evaluating what was actually being said, my opinion
of his works has probably gone down a little bit.
Like things that I once genuinely enjoyed, I don't feel
(10:17):
the desire to revisit again. It's not to say that
they were bad or that anyone working on those shows
did a bad job. Also doesn't help that, um uh,
it's Adam Baldwin, I believe right who played James. It
doesn't help that I find that particular actors personal uh
beliefs and behaviors to be rather distasteful, and that doesn't
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like it's hard for me to watch something with him
in it. Same with Chuck. The performances were really good,
and you know the that you can really like characters
if even if you don't like the story that they're in.
I have a couple of others, But what about you,
geez Ariel, I mean like the ones that didn't click
with me are ones that will get me so much hate. Um.
(11:04):
And so I'll give you two. You can choose whichever
one you want to talk about more with me. But
Avatar the Last Airbender is one of them, and Doctor
Who is another one, And those fan bases are incredibly
passionate about those properties, and I just don't get either
of them. I mean, but you see, I really want
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to talk about them both. But okay, well we'll do
that if we have time. So let's talk about Doctor Who. Why,
as an avid Doctor Who fan, having grown up with it, um,
why did it not click with you? This is an
excellent question, and I'm not certain I can fully answer it.
I So, I a Doctor Who was one of those
things that I was tangentially aware of when I was
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a kid, Like I was aware of the old series
before it went on a very long hiatus, um. And
in fact, I was going to science fiction conventions where
some of the actors who had played some of the
Doctor there's, like John per Twee, would be guests at
those conventions, and I could see that there was a
genuine love. But I never I had never watched the show,
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and whenever I saw a clip, it always looked like
a very low budget, slow talky kind of show, and
at the time it just didn't interest You mean like
a BBC show, Yeah, um, like a like a Shakespeare
play but with robots. I guess, I don't know. It
just wasn't doing anything for me as a kid. So
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I know I get that even though Shakespeare with robots
sounds like it's up, you're out. Oh no, today I
would eat that up. But as a kid, it just
to me it was too slow. I didn't I didn't
care for it. Then flash forward to the reboot with
Chris eccleston coming in as the new doctor. Um, I
just I didn't get on the ground floor because I
didn't have that connection to the older doctors to like
(12:51):
have that point where I felt the hook to watch
the new stuff. I finally started watching the New Stuff
after hearing multiple friends gush about it, and the first
few eccleston episodes didn't get me at all. It wasn't
until the one where it's the kids with the gas
masks dances. Yes, that's the one that got me, only
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because the doctor has that moment where he realizes that
he can save everyone, and he is legitimately joyful and excited,
and you realize that the reason for that is because
it's such a rare thing that he usually has to
resign himself to the fact that no matter what he does,
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someone is going to suffer. And for it to be
a situation where he can actually rescue everyone, it is
something truly special and that connected with me. I felt that, like,
I was like, Wow, this is for the first time
for watching these I feel something. Yeah. And then I
tried to watch more of it and I was like,
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it's just not like I watched all the way through
the Tenants stuff. I got through Smith, I think, and
then I stopped. Um, yeah, and then I just it
just again, like I kept watching out of almost a
sense of obligation, but it never connected to me again
on that same level. I get it. For For me,
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those two episodes Empty Child and The Doctor Dances are
the best episodes of the reboot, just flat out because
they do connect so well. They're scary, their tents, they're
so very human. Um, which is a weird thing to
say about a show about nannites and and aliens, but um,
it's It's definitely one of those things where the show
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has so many different tones to it that you almost
need to pinpoint the episodes you like and then have
someone who likes it all go in and say, Okay,
just watch these episodes and I'll give you the wiki
articles to fill in the gaps between them. And even
for me and I love Doctor Who, there are just
spans of it that I'm like, that episode was okay,
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that that was just me wasting an hour, and I
think the next time that it really really hit me.
There were there were a few moments, but it was
the most recent Doctor not Jenny Whittaker, but Peter Capaldi.
His second season with Bob, who is his second companion
after Clara Um was really good because again it hit
some of those those moments of I'm tired, I can't
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save everybody, and that's wearing on me again whenever they
hit those tones, like it's such a more genuine experience,
but it's so far and few between. We know that
these properties to some degree or another, uh have fan
bases that genuinely love those shows. I mean, like Ariel
loves Dr Who and I just don't get it. We also,
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you know, again, understand this doesn't make those shows bad.
It just means that for whatever reason, we didn't connect
with them, It didn't touch that that geek button inside
of us that makes us, you know, explore everything about
the show and devour it and like learn about all
the extra material around the show, whether it's behind the
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scenes or stuff that connects things like the comic books
and novelizations and all that. It just didn't hit hit
for us, And that's okay. Like, I think it's good
to know that it's okay to be a geek about
some things and have other things just not work for
you and that's fine. Yeah, I mean that's part of
the nice thing about media is there's there's such a
diverse amount of it that everything isn't going to hit
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every person the same way, right, Yeah, And and it's okay,
like yeah, and it And also if you happen to
be one of those people where you just don't get it,
like there are people going gaga about this thing and
you just don't get it. I mean, I know it
can be tempting to sometimes say, like this just doesn't
work or whatever, but you know, let people enjoy what
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they like and just accept that, like, Okay, this just
wasn't for me. I mean, I get it. Sometimes that happens.
That's a lesson I've had to learn the hard way
because I was definitely one of those internet jerks who
would chime in, like, but actually the thing you like
isn't good objectively, And I'll prove it in this fourteen
page essay I like to call Jonathan is a total jerk.
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But I've grown since then. Well that's too bad, because
after this break, we're going to let you give an
essay on the things that you like that not other
people did like because they're total jerks. Fair enough, Okay,
Well they get to that right after this break. So Ariel,
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we talked. I don't know if you remember this. It
happened like fifteen seconds ago, but we talked about things
that just didn't connect with us that other people genuinely like,
and we kind of talked about why it just didn't
work for us. Now we're going to talk about things
we liked that, for some reason or another didn't seem
to gather the ground swell of support they would need
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to continue being a thing. So with that in mind,
and I know you've got a couple where they lasted
a long time. But in those cases, the audience was
really a niche audience, and it was sort of special circumstances.
But why don't you talk about a property or series
that you really like that you feel just I just
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didn't catch on to a wide mainstream audience. Okay, So uh,
it's hard because Far Escape is the top of that list,
because when I talk to someone who likes general sci fi,
most of them haven't watched it. It's people who are
into all things sci fi that tend to have watched.
An exception of Jonathan, I'm guilty of not having watched
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I think I may have seen maybe twenty minutes of
Our Escape total, and and like it's It's interesting to
me because when I first watched it, I didn't watch
it when it originally aired. I saw it was coming out.
I was super interested into it because who doesn't like
Muppets in Space. I mean, that's that's the worst Muppet movie.
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I mean it is Muppets in Space is the worst.
I think it's Muppets from Space. But that's the worst
Muppet movie. Yeah, well Muppets from Space, Pigs in Space regardless,
sci fi and Muppets to me are fun. Even though
that movie was bad, it has nothing to do with
for our escape, and so I was like, Jim Henson,
Jim Henson helping with the science fiction to bring all
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these aliens to life, that just sounds amazing. And then
I missed it, and then my husband brought me back
to it and I watched it, and like the first
two or three episodes, I was like, I don't know
if I could get into this because the puppets just
seem to attached to puppety for the rest of the story,
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which is not me at all, Like that's not how
I think about puppets ever, really um, But then somewhere
in the middle of the first season, it's really one
of those shows to me that you've got to watch
through the first half of the first season, which is
just okay, and then towards the end of the first
season beginning of the second it really gets its ground
and figure figures out what it wants to be and
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gets ridiculous and then it's just a ton of fun
slash gut wrenching. But again, it's one of those things
that like, if you aren't familiar with it and you
go into it, those first few episodes may not catch you,
and it's it's really a hidden gem, you know, even
for shows that ended up getting pretty popular and there
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are considered kind of the foundations of science fiction, at
least at least the current era of science fiction, stuff
like Star Trek the Next Generation. I challenge anyone, anyone
listening to this podcast to go back and watch the
first season of Star Trek the Next Generation and ask
yourself the question does this show deserve to get renewed
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for a second season and come up with a positive
because that first season was rof Yes. The The other
show that is very much like that for me is
Lost because you have to get through the first ten
episodes before anything really intriguing happens. That explains why I
dropped off. In fact, I made a very good friend
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of mine watched the first ten episodes, and by the
end of it, she was like, I'm done. I hate
I don't want to watch any more of the show.
I'm like, but now it's going to get good. She's like,
but now I don't want to watch anymore. Um, and
I know a lot of people had problems throughout. It
seemed many times like the writers were just throwing darts
at a dartboard. Is the best description I've heard of it,
it's not my own. And then making the actors do
improv scenes based on where the darts ended to tell
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the story. Um. And then the scene you see a
polar bear. Yes. And then the ending was much like
so many other sci fi shows that Pete got a
pretty big following, was very very hum For many people,
they didn't like it, but um, yeah, that's another one
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that I actually really like. I didn't mind the ending.
I didn't mind the first ten episodes getting into it.
Um yeah, I enjoyed it for what it was, which
was a big old train wreck. But but Lost, Lost
actually had a really big following, like it was definitely
one of those that had people talking week to week
like the two shows. I can remember people at work
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talking about We're Survivor, a reality TV series that I
have very low opinions of, and then Lost and Uh,
I didn't watch Lost when it first came on, so
I tried watching it when it hit Netflix. And I
think Lost is one of those shows that benefits from
having a week between episodes, because that gives you that
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chance to have, like all the theories and speculate what
does this mean and wonder what's going to happen next
and build anticipation and enthusiasm, whereas when you can just
bene it and find out the answer immediately afterward, you
don't benefit from that that gap, right Like we saw
that with One Division and Falcon and the Winter Soldier,
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we're seeing it now with Loki. That when you get
to the end of an episode, you you are eagerly
anticipating the next one, and because you cannot immediately gratify
that desire, you are left to ruminate on what you've seen.
So I never got into Lost, Um, but for me
like a show that I genuinely loved, but it just
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never got enough. There's actually two I can tell you about,
because there's one I just remembered. So there's one from
the early nineties. I don't even know if you've seen it,
arial but it was called Wizards and Warriors. It lasted
six episodes. It was a series where you had Eric
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Graystone the hero and Dirk Blackpool the villain. Um and
it was I would say it was sort of a
predecessor two shows like Xena and Hercules. You know, those
sort of comedic action fantasy shows, the shows that they're
not comedies, but they have a lot of comedic elements
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worked into them. Wizards of Warriors was that way. I
had a lot of comedic moments built into the show.
Was this based off of the old game Wizards and Warriors.
This was just a fantasy action series, and it was
in the early nineteen eighties, so everyone had the eighties hair,
um and you. It was just really entertaining. I actually
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have a a don't tell anyone, everyone out there listening,
don't tell anyone. I have a bootleg. I have a
bootleg DVD of that series because it never lasted beyond
like six episodes, so these are all like taped off
the television episode that have been burned to DVD. Um.
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But it's it's a really entertaining show. I don't think
I have watched it. I'm looking at pictures and like
the main who I'm guessing is the main dude? It
looks familiar, but well if you if you've seen the Warriors,
then that would be why he So it's an actor
who's been in lots of other stuff, everything with the
name Warrior, with the word warrior. We'll talk about him later,
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but uh yeah, it's maybe so Ariel and I are
gonna be hanging out later this month, which is exciting
because I haven't seen you in ages. Later this month
when we're recording this. I don't know when this will air,
but later this month, we're gonna hang out and maybe
I'll bring the DVD so we can watch some of it,
because it is cheesy, and I think it's the sort
of cheesy that the friends who will be at that
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gathering will be into, um, So I'll use that one
my other one just to mention it. I won't go
into detail because we're going to run over time otherwise,
but the other one I would love I would mention
is The advent Cheurs of Briscoe County, Jr. Which was
a science fiction western starring Bruce Campbell as the aforementioned
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Briscoe County Jr. And was really fun and quirky, but
it also got a little too wrapped up in its
own lore um to the point where halfway through that
that season, you just felt like, this show is way
too convoluted. And then I think the show runners since that,
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and they very quickly wrapped up that storyline in a
not terribly satisfying way in order to make it a
more straightforward western comedy. Series, but by then it was
already too late and the series and the series was canceled,
which is a shame because I think it might be
my favorite thing that I've seen Bruce Campbell do. It
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is it is incredibly charming and Um, the actor who
played show enough in the Last Dragon played a bounty
hunter named Lord Bowler. He has sadly passed away since then,
but Lord Bowler was a great comedic foil to Briscoe
County Jr. It was just a fun show. Um, But
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you know it's interesting. We're going to now go into
another break and when we come back, we're going to
mash up a couple of properties, which we will talk
about a little bit before we go into our our
various mashups. I will say, uh Ariel and I we
haven't shared our mashups with each other yet, but we've
each said that for once, we did not go with
a comedy approach. So get ready for some serious mashing
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up after this break. Okay, Ariel, We've got two properties
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were mashing up, and one of them we have already
mentioned in this episode, which is Lost. So do you
mind giving people like a brief overview of what Lost is?
Just in case they're not. They're like me and they're
one of those people just missed out on the whole thing. Sure,
So Lost is a story about a bunch of people
on Oceanic flight eight fift that crashes on a mysterious island. Uh.
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The entire show is them trying to get off the
island and back home as crazy, weird things happen around
the island. There's like polar bears, There's a mysterious smoke
monster that makes horrible noises and rattles trees. Eventually you
find out that there uh spoiler for anybody who wants
to watch it. There are the others who were a
part of the Dharma initiative who liked this island for
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it's like temporal properties, it's moving around in spacetime kind
of Um. It was very convoluted. They always changed things.
They killed off a lot of characters you liked, like
precursory Game of Thrones, if Game of Thrones was modern
and not about royalty. Um, but it was you know,
it was always fun and interesting to hard to figure
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out where they were going to go. They had numbers
that kept popping up, and they had this whole like
mini cosmo around the show where people would try to
get these clues and figure out what was going to
happen next and what was going on and who knows
if there ever really were answers to it. I did
not have that much time to invest into the show,
but it was it was a good a good sci
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fi based on Survivor. I suppose well it was. It
was one of again, it was one of those things
that generated a lot of talk between episodes, like it
gave people plenty of time to to formulate theories, some
of which maybe the show runners saw and maybe even
incorporated into the show or specifically steered the show away
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from uh there. You know, there haven't been too many
discussions that went into how much, if at all, the
fans affected the direction of Lost Um, but it was
definitely one of those that had, like that really passionate
fan base that was eager to you discussed their own
theories about what was actually happening, and there was just
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enough mystery to keep that going. If you're not like
someone like me, yeah, until the end of the show,
when everybody just swore it off because it didn't like
the ending, unless you me, yeah, so then we have
Lost in Space Now Lost in Space started off as
a television sci fi uh drama dy I guess you
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could say like it was more of a drama but
with lots of little comedic moments as well, in which
you have a family, the Robinson's, who are sent to
go as sort of a an early colonization group to
a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri. And they've got a pilot,
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Major Don West, who is in charge of a ship,
the Jupiter Too. Uh. And they then are sabotaged by
a guy named Dr Zachary Smith who is trying to
sabotage the ship on behalf of some government that's never
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actually revealed. Uh. And he's he sabotages a robot on
the show, it's referred to as the robot. He doesn't
get a name or it doesn't get a name. Um.
And then eventually Dr Smith, as the character is known,
He's caught aboard the ship after he sabotages it, so
he ends up having to try and revive the crew
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out of cryostasis in order to rescue his own hide.
The group get Lost in Space, and Dr Smith throughout
the rest of the series is sort of a comedic villain,
like a cowardly, villainous character. He gets more comedic as
the show goes on. And that's the original incarnation of
the show. Of course, there was a movie adaptation that
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changed things quite a bit, uh, and that was pretty dark.
And there was a two thousand eighteen reboot of the
series on Netflix which also changed things quite a bit,
including changing the the gender of Dr Smith, which was
you know, had Um Parker posey I think, yeah, playing
that role now in my mashup. At least, I went
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with the original Lost in Space because I have a
very tenuous connection with it. Interesting. You'll have to get
into that when you get to your mashup. I also
went with the original Lost in Space because I'm not
caught up on the current one. Okay, well, who would
you like to go first? Knowing that both of these
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are more on the dramatic side than the comedic side,
I'll go first, all right. This is called Lost in
the Hatch. It's been a week since the passengers of
Oceanic Flight eight fifteen woke up on the island, a
week plagued with strange occurrences like mysterious cases of food
rations marked Jupiter two Initiative Polar bears and weird electromagnetic fields,
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all accompanied by a creepy, groaning, roaring, mechanical noise from
an unseen monster in the woods. And that's when he
shows up, Doctor Zachary Smith, claiming to be a passenger
on flight eight fifteen along with his wife and children.
No one recognized him, but since the plane had broken
in half during the crash, everyone in the makeshift camp
cautiously believed him. When asked where his family was, doctor
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Smith said he had lost them and the crash and
was looking for them. He singled out John Locke, a
gentleman who had once been in a wheelchair but now
could walk, to help him, saying that he was a
man of science and he needed a man of faith
to help him see signs he might overlook that would
lead him in the right direction. While the rest of
the survivors continued to try to find a way to
be rescued off the island, doctor Zachary Smith, John Locke,
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and a couple of others Boone and Hurley to be named,
went off in search of doctor Smith's family. The search
party was only a short way into their quest when
they heard the ominous, groaning, roaring mechanical sound. Ah the
smoke monster, run, yelled hurly. This way, shouted Dr Smith
as the trees in front of them began to shake.
When they stopped running from the monster, they realized they
were standing on top of a giant hatch. On the
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hatch were the numbers zero, two, nine, ten, sixteen nineteen.
Dr Smith told, I recognize all those numbers. Yay. Dr
Smith told the group, my family must be hiding in there.
Let's break in, and that's what they tried to do.
In their attempt to break into the hatch. Lock injured
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his leg, but they did make it in and that's
when they saw it. A man, a woman, and their
two children frozen in chambers, and one chamber opened with
the name Z Smith on the outside. But just as Lock,
Boone and Hurley were perplexing over this, they heard the
monster noise again, but this time it was much closer
and it was saying something day we Robinson, very thank you.
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The monster was in the hatch. Dr Smith yelled for
them to quickly to get the family out of the
pods and the hatch before the monster got them. But
before they could do that, the monster appeared. Locke being
injured was unable to run away and prepared for the worst,
but the worst never came. In head the monster, which
was a robot, corner Dr Smith. Dr Smith yelled for help,
but the search party refused until they were told what
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was really going on. So Dr Smith, with no other alternatives,
told them in sort of a villainy monology way, he
had launched into space with a family called the Robinsons
in an effort to get to an earthlike planet around
the Alpha Centauri star. However, due to complications that he
insisted were no fault of his own, they got knocked
off course and crash landed on this island, and upon landing, he,
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the robot, and the supplies and the ship were strewn
across the island. The hatch was actually the spaceship, but
it was so damaged in the crash it couldn't take
off with the crew inside of it, which was also
a lie. Dr Smith just wanted to get rid of
the Robinsons. At first. Dr Smith didn't even know where
he was, and for the last seven years now he
was trying to get off the island and back on
his journey. The Monterey robot wouldn't let him remove the
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crew which he was insisting had to be off for
the spaceship to take off, as it was protecting the
young boy will So Doctor Smiths goal was to get Lock,
Boone and Hurley to remove the family, destroy the robot,
and then Dr Smith would take off in the spaceship
back on his mission, leaving everyone behind. At first, Lock
and the rest of them thought Dr Smith was crazy
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there was no mission to space that year, but then
they noticed the numbers on the hatch directly matched his
story and he must be from an alternate timeline. Once
they realized he was from an alternate timeline, they decided
to revive the Robinson's out the doctor and take the
spaceship back through the wormhole and off the island. The
three survivors went back and told the rest of the passengers.
They all went to the hatch, dug out the spaceship,
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prepared it, and shot off into space. It was an
exceptionally rough ride and everyone passed out. The next thing
we know, we're viewing a closeup of an eye on
a beach, and as we zoom out, we find out
that all of the passengers of flight eight fifteen are back,
freshly crashed on the beach along with the Robinson's and
their robot, and there is a loud, scary, groaning, roaring,
mechanical noise from the jungle. M cliffhanger, Cliffinger, I've been
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doing this lately. Mine also ends in a cliffhanger, because
I mean this is a series, right, like you're talking
about Lost, That's what that's kind of how it do.
So um mine is called Lost Lost in space space
h Young Will Robinson has a problem, or, as the
robot would say, danger, Will Robinson. The young lads strayed
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a bit too far from the Jupiter eight fifteen. While
exploring the surroundings of the mysterious island that served as
the crash site for the latest of the spaceship's catastrophes,
Willard moved just a bit too far from the supervision
of his family when he sees something truly odd in
the Jungle Islands. Vegetation and it's substantial form, almost as
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if made from smoke, seems to be moving through the
shadowy space between trees, and even the young will can
sense it has menace, But before he can escape, the
smoke is on him and he cries out, only to
have his scream suddenly cut short. Meanwhile, back at the
landing site, Major Don West and the robot here Young
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Robinson's cry. Thinking quickly, West asks the robot if it
could determine where Robinson was. The robot gives a general
direction and estimated distance, indicating Robinson's last known position. West
tells Will's parents, Professor John Robinson and Dr Maureen Robinson,
and West elects to bring Judy, the eldest Robinson child,
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and the robot and Doctor Zachary Smith with him. Dr
Smith doesn't seem thrilled by the prospect. John, Maureen and
their daughter Penny stay behind, worried but working harder on
making repairs to the Jupiter eight fift. West and crew,
following in Will's footsteps, reached the point where Will last was.
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From there they see all signs of Will's presence come
to an end, as if he had been plucked off
the ground somehow. West decides the group should split up
and search. He and Judy Will go in one direction,
and Smith and the robot in another. Meanwhile, Will Robinson
wakes up in a strange place. It seems like he's
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in some sort of military bunker. The smoke Monster is
nowhere to be found, but at the same time, there's
no way for Will to get out. The hatch to
the bunker seems to be locked from the outside, but
inside the bunker is a very old computer terminal. Will,
determined to put his knowledge of computer science to the task,
attempts to make it work. We come back to Judy
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and Major West, who find an odd metallic panel in
the jungle. On it is a symbol that looks familiar.
It's an octagonal shape who lines inside it and the
word dharma in the middle. I've seen this before, says Judy.
Major West agrees that it is familiar, but neither can
quite place where they had seen it. Meanwhile, the robot
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and Dr Smith are in another part of the jungle,
where Smith is spending his time calling the robot trittorious
transistorized trash heat. But then suddenly the robot spots a
sign of the hatch, and Dr Smith, in a moment
of desperation, fakes a stumble and air quotes falls over,
crying out who the pain the pain of a tool?
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The robot tells Dr Smith to stay there and it
will fetch help from back at the Jupiter. So the
robot leaves and we see a sly smile on Dr
Smith's face. Cut to Major West and Judy as they
work their way back through the jungle, they spot something impossible.
There in the tropical jungle is what looks like a
polar bear moving off in the underbrush. Before the two
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can get a good look, however, it's gone. Having found
no signs of will, and convinced that moving further without
help would be a mistake, they decided to retrace their
steps to where their group first split up. Back at
the Jupiter eight fifteen, John and Maureen are deep in
conversation when the robot returns, alerting them to Smith's air
quotes in injury. Marine decides she will go to tend
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to the doctor, but then realizes that Penny is missing.
Looking for her, they find her cuddling with a little
polar bear cub, whom she has named Bloop two. John
and Marine are left wondering how in the heck a
polar bear ended up on a tropical island. Maureen then
heads off to tend to Dr Smith. Major West and
Judy returned to their starting point and see that Smith
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and the robot haven't returned yet, so they decided to
follow their tracks to catch up with them, and as
they do, they see Dr Smith studying the hatch carefully.
Judy gasps quietly and says to West, I know where
I've seen that symbol, the one from the metal panel.
It's on one Dr Smith's old lab coats. And then
they realize Dr Smith has secretly worked for the Dharma Initiative.
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What's he doing, asked Judy. It looks to me like
he's trying to figure out how to cover up that hatch,
says Don. The two decide that's enough and they walk
up to the door, who immediately says he was, in
fact trying to figure out how to open the hatch
in case the young Will Robinson were inside. Don doesn't
seem to buy it, showing that it is just a
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simple crank to open the hatch. But before he even
lays hands on it, the wheel on the hatch turns
by itself and pops open. All three step back involuntarily,
and out from the hatch comes Young Will Robinson. I
found the controls in an old computer. It's really old,
maybe as old as you. Dr Smith, Smith, shocked and appalled,
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rolls his eyes, and then Maureen and the robot show up.
Marina is surprised to see that Smith is actually up
and about, and the doctor then tries to explain that
it turned out just to be a mild spring say
Dr Smith says, Major West, what is dharma? Smith, shocked,
seems at a loss for words, and while searching for
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something to say, a new voice speaks out, I believe
I can nce or that. The group turns to see
black smoke coalescing into a human form, a man wearing
all black, and then we see the show's credits. We'll
have to wait for the next episode to find out
what happens. I would watch her version of this show. Well,
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uh so so my my connection to Lost in Space.
The actor who played Will Robinson is a guy named
Bill Mouey, and uh Bill Mouey also was a founding
member of the novelty music band Barnes and Barnes, most
famous for the song fish Heads Eat Them Up Yum. Anyway,
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Bill Mooey was a guest at a local science fiction convention.
My dad was also a guest at that same convention,
and my mom loved to make costumes for me and
my sister. At that particular convention, I was wearing a
Danger Mouse costume. For those who don't know, Danger Mouse
was a British cartoon where you had a mouse kind
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of like in the style of James Bonds, very very silly,
very heavy on the puns and sight gags, and I
loved it. So I had this Danger Mouse costume and
it looked really good, like my mom made a mascot
level costume. Turns out Bill Mooney huge Danger Mouse fan,
and so he saw me in costume, and there was
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a camera crew that was shooting little bits of the
convention and airing it on the local UH public broadcast
station during a Doctor Who marathon and and essentially advertising
the fact that there was this convention, to to have
people come out and be part of it and um.
And so when Bill Mooey saw me, he said, I'll
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be glad to do an on camera thing, but I
have to have Danger Mouse with me. And so I
ended up getting to hang out with Bill Mooey for
like a couple of hours as he was shooting stuff
and having me on camera. I didn't speak or anything.
You couldn't tell it was me because it was in costume.
But it was fun. That is absolutely adorable. Yea also
pretty pretty sweet. You made mention to Bloop, and then
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I had to go, what did blue look like? And
it was very upsetting to look at that. Well, this
was blue too, in a very cute polar bear cup. Yes,
Bloop original was an arrange an orangutang. I believe it
was an orangutan, yeah, or a chimpanzee. No, No, you're right,
it was a chimpanzee. It was a chimpanzee with a
very large prosthetic head um on top of its head, yeah,
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which just looked sad. Yeah, which I think officially Penny
named that Debbie, if I'm not mistaken, But but it
was known as Bloop because of the noise it would make. Um. Yeah.
And so that's that's our episode, and we're going to
do a few more of these episodes. Frequently we record
these because occasionally one of us needs to go out
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of town or something like that, and so instead of
trying to cover news that might be very stale by
the time you hear it, we thought we would do
more Evergreen episodes for those rare occas asians where we
can't just cover or breaking news. Otherwise I'd be talking
about Benedict Cumberbatch saying he's not going to play thron
and uh, you know stuff like that. Yeah. No, he
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says he doesn't want to be in a makeup chair
for hours on end because he misses his kids, which
I think is totally valid. Um. But yeah, so we would.
We'll be doing these occasionally. So if you ever hear
one that's like this, that's what that's about. And if
you have a topic you want us to talk about
at length in an episode like this, let us know. Yes,
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like science fiction property that gets canceled because just not
enough people knew about it. Yes, that would he the sadist. Uh.
But to leave on a happy note, I am Ariel
Caston and I am Jonathan Happy Strickland. M m m
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m m. The Large Nur John Collider is production of
I Heart Radio and was created by Ariel Caston. Jonathan
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