September 23, 2021 • 47 mins
This week Ariel and Jonathan talk about the dark turns of Marvel's What If? and ponder whether alternate takes can be as good or better than the originals. Then they take a spooky turn on Toy Story in their mash-ups.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
My Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerd
Drunk Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky
things happening in the world around us and how excited
we are to talk about them. I'm Ariel casting and
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with me as always is the awesome Jonathan Strickland. And
before you say anything, Jonathan, I almost said, and all
the freaky things in the world happening around us, because
it's been that kind of a day. How are you.
I'm I'm I'm freaky, I'm super freaking out. That's where I'm. Yeah,
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I am, I am. No. Three is not a crowd
for me. I say, wait, no, I can't say that. Wait,
but that's in the in the song. It's in the song. Yeah,
all right, okay, okay, you know what I'm going to
get us back on track. You threw me off, Ariel,
but I got a question for you. Okay, Ariel, here's
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your question, and this one's a nice innocent question, so
we can get this back on the family Friendly Trek
it's supposed to be on. What is a book that
you have read multiple times and why do you like
to read it. I would say that would be a
Phantom Tollbooth, yes, I know, or the Phantom Tollbooth. I
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know it's a children's story, but I just love all
of the word play in it. I think it's super clever. Um.
But it's more uplifting than let's say, a Series of
Unfortunate Events, which also likes to play with grammar and
words and children's intelligence, but it's on a darker level.
So yeah, the Phantom Tollbooth. It's one of my one
of my like my favorites outside of like, you know,
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the Chronicles of Narnia, The Lord of the Rings. Um,
it's the best standalone book that I read over and
over again. That's great. It's a good answer. Yeah, what
about you? Okay, I was wondering if you're gonna get
around to asking me. Well, I thought about not. But
then there's actually quite a few books that I like
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to read over and over again. Some of them some
of them are are more lighthearted, like The Hobbit is
a book that I often refer to as being my
favorite of all time, which is probably not not accurate.
It was certainly my favorite book as a kid. Um,
and I still very much enjoy it. I just don't
know that I have the same like it. You know
how things change in your estimation over time, not that
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they get worse or anything, but you just start to
appreciate other stuff. But I would say probably Good Omens
the Terry Pratchett Neil Gaiman novel. I came across that
while having having already read some of Neil Gaiman's work
and a little bit more of Terry Pratchett's work, and
someone described ribed it to me. And this is a
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description that a lot of people use as Hitchhiker's Guide
to the Apocalypse. And I was a big fan of
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and I absolutely loved the
humor and the satire and the very human story that's
told in there. And um, yeah, so that that's probably
one of those. It's also the book that I think
I've purchased the most because I'm one of those people
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who would buy a copy. I would lend it out
to someone saying, you've got to read this, never get
it back, and so I would go out and buy
another copy. I now have it digitally with Good Omens.
I don't know this happens to me, with most of
Terry Pratchett's stuff, I pick up the book to read
it and I'll read like a chapter and I'll put
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it down, and then like months later, I'll come back
and read another chapter. And that's how I read good
omens um take the story, and I like the TV
show and I'm interested about the sequel. But yeah, it's
it's just for some reason, Terry Pratchett is tiny, tiny,
small chunks. For me. It's probably the easier to understand
if I didn't do it that way. Uh. Yeah. I
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like a lot of the Discworld novels. I will say
that towards the end of the Discworld novels, towards the
end of Practet's life, unfortunately, um, I was feeling like
they were starting to get a bit repetitive, and so
I kind of fell off of them after a while.
But the earlier ones are some of my Again, there's
so much humor and satire, and it's all in this
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sort of fantasy world trappings. Just very very clever, a
lot of fun. We will try to be very clever then,
will definitely be fun. As we talk about some news
stories for the top of the show. Yes, and this
first one is about a bunch of clever and fun people,
specifically the animators who make the Pixar shorts, um the
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Sparks Stories. So if you're not familiar with Sparks Stories,
you know all those little pigs are short, uh short
films in front of like a big Pixar movie, and
how we all loved them. Well, I think starting the pandemic,
wasn't it, Jonathan when they started releasing Sparks Stories. Yeah, yeah,
I it was one of those things that I didn't
notice at first, is when when I logged into Disney
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Plus one day, I saw that and I thought, huh,
I guess this is like just a collection of all
the shorts, And no, it's it's not just that. It's
it's short short pieces that have been created by Pixar
uh employees that maybe none of them, like some of
them had had never been screened really on a big
screen to the general public like it had been seen
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inside Pixar. But that was about it. And um, I
remember watching one and my my uh wife and I
were watching it and we were shocked because there was
a joke that was it wasn't dirty, but it was
a little body. It was more body than what you
would expect to see in a Pixar film, like especially
you know, like that Disney style Pixar film, And it
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took us by surprise, and that's when we said, oh,
this is something a little different. This isn't just like
the little amuse bush before the main course of a
Pixar movie. And they're very they're very fun to watch.
This documentary is following two filmmakers as they go through
the process of developing and writing and animating their works,
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and so it's kind of talking about what that process is,
like how personal it can be for storytellers, and that
this is one of the ways that picks our helps
to develop their future, you know, lead storytellers, the people
who will pick up the baton and make the Pixar
classics of the future. Yeah, if you had asked me
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if I wanted a Pixar documentary, I probably would have told,
you know. And this is even after having like looked
into their company history at one point in time, back
when you and I were doing The Brink. But the
trailer for the for the documentary looks absolutely uplifting and delightful,
and it's something I need in my life right now. Agreed. Yeah,
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it's got a very positive sort of feel to it,
like you feel like there's gonna be there's gonna be
some conflict, there's gonna be some challenges and stuff that
people have to overcome because maybe you maybe you come
up with an idea and then you realize later that
the idea you had is not something that's working out
or whatever, but that ultimately it does have this kind
of optimistic and creative spirit to it. Um. Have you
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watched any of the Sparks shorts. I've watched a couple
of them. The Little Boy Who flew Um, I don't
remember the name of it. I haven't seen that one.
I saw the Ball of Yarn one. Did you see
that one? I did not see that one. The Ball
of Yarn one was the one that shocked us with
having us I mean body joke. I'll tell you after
the podcast, because I love the joke. It's a great joke. Excellent.
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I can't wait to hear it. Another thing that might
have somebody jokes in it that we don't know yet.
What is the around the World in Nadie Days mini
series were about to get which I don't recall. Having
learned about this in the past. What about you, Jan, Nope,
I didn't know about so. First of all, Around the
World in eighty Days is a Jules Verne story that's
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been adapted numerous times. Um, you know, having having everyone
from Jackie Chan to Jackie Chan in it. And uh
it's um uh serious story about a very educated but
somewhat childish man, Phileas Fogg, who makes a bet with
a bunch of snooty British aristocrats that he can circumnavigate
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the globe in eighty days and if if he loses,
he has to pay up some outlined and just think
it's like twenty thou pounds or something, some crazy amount
of money. Um. And like I said, there's been a
lot of adaptations, but this one's got a great actor
in it. Um who who who? Oh nice joke. It's
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David Tennant which slash film. The slash film article that
will link on our website. Large you're drawn Collider about this.
It's like, yeah, he traveled the stars as Doctor Who,
but he can barely make it around the world in
any days. Um, paraphrasing a little bit, but it is
pretty funny. Um. The trailer looks cute. I had I
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was talking about this with my folks the other day
and one of them asked me how many times are
they going to remake this movie? And I said, they've
got to do it once for every generation if you
want this story to like continue on, if you want
the classics to continue on, and you try to show
like whatever generation is after millennials, an old version of
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around the world in eighty days, likely it's not going
to grasp their attention. So maybe it's just the every
ten years bid to keep this story alive. First of all,
I agree with you. Second of all, gen Z, I
love you. Nif aial doesn't, I do love you, I
just don't. Third of all, no, but I think you're
making an excellent point there, arial because as I had
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a very similar discussion about something else we'll talk about
much later in this episode, a different remake where you know,
I know that there's a sort of knee jerk reaction
among people to say, why are they remaking that isn't
the version that we already have perfectly, you know, fine
already And in some cases I can fall into that trap,
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but I try to remind myself, like you were saying,
this is a way to make a story appealing and
relevant to a different generation, people who don't necessarily have
a connection to the actors who are in a previous version,
or maybe the previous version looks dated, maybe it looks,
you know, a little clunky to their eyes, and that
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they wouldn't engage with it otherwise. And in that sense,
it's kind of like theater, right, Like every production you
see of any show is going to be different in
some ways to all the other productions. So I'm okay
with I don't like what they've done to this story.
I'm okay. I'm he with the idea. Mostly. I mean,
there are cases where I start questioning things, like, you know,
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the remake of Psycho that was a shot for shot remake.
I thought, well, what's I don't even understand the point
of that. But um, but others I'm like, no, I
can I'm this this isn't for me. First of all,
I have to start with this is not for me,
and that's okay, And if it works on a different
level for other audiences, that's great. Yeah. I tend to
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be more forgiving about it. With like classic literature that
this is done with, then maybe just a really good
movie that started off as a movie. I don't know why.
And maybe it's just you know that that Gooney's effect
of what I watched as a kid and holds the
perfect place in my heart for me versus anybody else.
But yeah, like if you do it with Shakespeare, I'll
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watch a Brazilian Shakespeare revisions. I can definitely see that.
It's just I sit there and I think about, Okay,
how many movies from the nineteen fifties and ninth sixties
did I seek out to watch because I knew that
people older than than my generation like them, and the
list is pretty small, And and I sit there and think, well,
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if they remade that with a cast that was contemporary
to me, and I knew the actors and I knew
like the director or whatever, then I might be more
inclined to see it, even though it's you know, sacrilege
because they're remaking a classic film. But yeah, I feel
the same way. Like if if I were to hear
oh Abrams is he got the go ahead to do
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a remake of E T I would probably be like
pitching a fit outside right now. Yeah. Yeah, And the
other thing is, you know some some classic movies and
probably you know I haven't read around the world in
eighty days and forever, so probably even that story, you know,
has some things that are problematic nowadays. If you change
it too much, then you should just make it its
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own new thing. Um yeah, but uh so, you know,
it's it is a a place where people can be
very opinionated, and it's it's a very tricky, tricky thing
to do, right. Yeah, it's a tight rope, right, Like,
if you go too close to the source material, then
you're boring. If you go too far away, then people
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are saying, why did you even bother calling it this?
And or you know, if you're going too close to
the source material, and as you say, if the source
material happens to contain stuff that just does not work
in a modern setting, like in a with a modern audience,
like it is not gonna play well, it's gonna it's
gonna be seen for what it was, which is probably
a bad take. It was always a bad take, it's
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just now we recognize it as a bad take. You know,
you wanna you don't want to inflict that on your
audience necessarily, So yeah, it's tricky. Yeah, but you know
who is timeless Jonathan uh if you if you, I
think I do know, but I want to hear you
say it. Okay, yeah, I know that warming uh anti
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hero from Marvel. Yeah. Well, we're not gonna spend too
much time on this. I just wanted to, you know.
Ariel made the lineup, as she always does because she's amazing,
and one of the things she put in was that
there was the the let There Be Carnage TV spot
for the new Venom movie as well some posters, and
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the thing that I thought was interesting, it wasn't. Really.
The TV spot actually didn't do much for me. To
be fair, I am I am not the person for Venom, Like,
that's not that's not my bag. But the thing I
was talking about with Ariel before we started recording is
that I find the marketing for this movie to be
absolutely perplexing because the trailers we saw early on seemed
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to really emphasize the humorous relationship between Eddie and Venom,
right like there's this constant struggle between the two, and
then this TV spot makes it look more like a
classic kind of horror movie, and so it starts to
raise the question of what kind of movie is this really?
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Is it? Is it primarily a horror movie with some
elements of humor. Is it primarily kind of a buddy
cop film with some elements of horror. It's hard to say.
It is the first one. I felt rode the line
pretty well because it was scary, but it was also funny.
But you know, Carnage is as all the trailers will
lead you to believe a bigger batter symbiote. So, um,
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I'm gonna watch it. I'll let you know, Jonathan, that's good, Yeah, godspeed,
I uh yeah, I mean for me, it's again. It's
just coming down to the marketing thing. Like I look
at the marketing and I think about other movies that
were marketed in different ways, Like the original Suicide Squad
movie had very different marketing attached to it throughout before
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its release, and that movie turned into a total mess.
So I always get a little like and see when
I see a film where I feel like the people
behind the campaign didn't actually know how to market the film.
That's what it comes across as to me. Yeah, yeah,
you know, it's probably why I didn't watch the first
one for so long, but I did enjoy it personal.
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That's good. That's good. We have one less story that
we're going to touch on real quick before the break,
and that is that we're getting a new digital Pokemon
card game. Whoo, just to lighten the mood a little bit. Yeah,
it's like a celebrating it's a anniversary in this Pokemon.
How is it years old? I mean like it's still ariel.
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I'm still of an age where I still call it
Pokemon's okay, Like I don't know your charizards from your
Pikachu's or your Squirtles or whatever the heck they are
so so to me, it's all to me. It's all
all all Greek. But yeah, there's there had been a
digital card game of Pokemon where you collect Pokemon and
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you battle people, but it was really limited and it
was really clunky. And so now there's a new free
to play Pokemon digital card game that's available on a
lot more platforms. So that's great. Yeah. The other nice
thing about it is they have there will probably be
some micro transactions, but they haven't really talked about it.
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So it seems like to play this game, uh, most
of it will be free and you'll be able to
pour it over your cards that you have in real
life and from the old game. So they're they're really
trying to make this accessible, which I think is great
for Pokemon because it's it's something that I've seen lived
through many generations of children. At this point, um and
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you know, I'll be at you're fighting animals until they
make each other pass out. But compared to a lot
of entertainment nowadays, it's pretty wholesome. So yes, and as
they say, you have no choice but to collect every
single one of them, I'm pretty sure that's how it goes.
That's that's what I do with Pringles. All right, Well,
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on that note, we're gonna go into a quick break,
but when we come back, we're gonna ask the question
what if? What if? Alright, we're back. I've recomposed myself.
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It was pretty impressive to watch her do that on camera, like, actually,
you know, reconnect all of her pieces so that she
was a whole aerial once again. Yeah, I'm just actually
a jigsaw puzzle of complexity, just like all of the
what if stories we've been getting from Marvel. Yeah, So
Ariel and I have both caught up on the what
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If series that's streaming on Disney Plus right now. If
you are not familiar with what if. It is a
line of special com x that came out from Marvel
that just asked the question what if and then you
have a different scenario. Gave Marvel artists and writers a
chance to play around with characters that you normally you
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wouldn't have that much leeway because these are money making figures,
so you can't do anything too crazy with them, um like,
you can kill them up, but you gotta bring them back.
So the way if series didn't have those limitations, so
they could ask questions like, you know, what if Aunt
May got bit by the radioactive Spider instead of Peter Parker,
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Like those are the kind of question. So some of
them could be very, very silly, and some of them
could be very not silly. And we're we're kind of
seeing that with the the streaming series too, which is
taking the Marvel Universe as it exists from the m
c U. So it's the m c U versions of
these characters, often voiced, not not always, but often voiced
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by the actors who played those characters on screen, and
putting them into different scenarios. So these are not retellings
of the classic what if comic books. They are new
what if scenarios using the mc U version of comic
book characters. And I was so hopeful when the series
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first came out because the first two episodes left me
feeling pretty good. Um yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah.
I was like after Endgame, which was so, you know,
largely sad. Yeah, but one division had at oh ah soldier,
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that was okay, that was okay, it was he was
in a better spot at the end than he was
the beginning. So well, he's Captain America, so definitely. Uh.
And I guess Loki had Um, Loki was like a
LOOKI was like a lateral move because he was essentially
in the same like weird situation at the end as
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he had been in the beginning. Spoiler alert for anyone
who hasn't seen Loki. But and and we're gonna try
not to spoil any of the wide IF episodes in particular.
But as you say, like, I think we're on what episode,
like episode six was the one that just played, I
think so, um it was five Okay, So more than
half of them have had endings that were perhaps more
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of the bummer end of the spectrum. Um, and I
had I had even warned my wife when we first
started watching it, I told her, I said, now, listen,
I've read the what If comics. Things do not always
end so well in what If. Like often often the
question is what if and it seems kind of lighthearted
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or interesting or uh maybe just silly or whatever, but
it frequently ends poorly, kind of like a Twilight Zone
episode or a horror movie where your characters end up
in a situation at the end that is not good.
That is frequently the way what If plays out, And
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the theory I gave Arial is that it sends the
message that the actual Marvel timeline is the superior Marvel timeline,
and any deviation from that ends in sadness. But but
here's the thing that I think is, if that's the case,
very poor is that Okay? Then I don't want to
watch this next uh, this next phase because it's all
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going to be sadness. Um and I I but want
the multiverse to be full of wacky z any fun adventures. Well, Loki,
it was full of some wacky z any fun stuff
in addition to some pretty grim stuff. So I suspect
like the Marvel films have always had at least some
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element of humor. And self awareness to them. I don't
think that's gonna go away. Um. I think that the
multiverse will give them the ants too explore. Some stuff
that might be a little experimental is probably going too
far because this is still Disney and Marvel. I don't
think they're going to push the envelope too hard, but
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they might be able to do some stuff that is
a departure from their typical MCU approach. Yeah, I can
see that. And and to be fair, you know, I
watched Hung XI and that was an absolute delight. Um,
But yeah, I don't I don't know. I was and
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I get that it's a cartoon, so you want to
make sure that adults know that it's for them. But
I was hoping that more of the episodes would have
a bit more levity to them. That being said, the
zombie episode, which I don't think is a spoiler because
there are flipping funko pops out about zombie and and
the zombie and the zombie stuff in Marvel has been
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and I apologize, my dog is going to join in
on the conversation here, but the MBI stuff with Marvel
has been uh, you know, it's been covered quite a
bit in the comics right, their entire graphic novels that
are about that sort of alternate reality. Yeah, well that's
what I was gonna say, is I feel like this now.
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Mind you, I've mainly had the Marvel Zombies explained to me,
but between that and watching the what If episode with Zombies,
I feel like there was more levity and and a
bit of more of a story that I could get
behind in the what If version than the Marvel Zombies
series itself. Yeah. No, yeah it was. It was not
as I mean, well, it was not as drawn out
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as the Marvel Zombie series, which really takes its time
and absolutely destroying all the characters you know and love. Um. Yeah, Like,
I would love it if there were at least one
or two more lighthearted what ifs. Um, something that would
be a little more uplifting or jovial be great, because
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the dark stuff does get a little wearing after a while. Um.
If I want that, I'll watch DC content, which we
know how much you love DC. Yeah that's that's that
was me throwing shade at d c Um. There is
one that I would love. I mean, it won't happen
because they haven't introduced the Fantastic four yet and the
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m c U. But there there was one I remember
where it was what If Dr Doom was a good guy,
and I want to say he was even in gold
armor in that What If comic. It's hard for me
to remember. This was like one that might have dated
from the eighties, and um, but I would love to
have seen like something along those lines. It actually would
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be fun to see what If and they picked some
villain and they make that villain the good guy. We
kind of got a little bit of that in the
Guardians of the Galaxy one, but don't want to say
too much about it. A little bit. Yeah, um, I
would watch Dr JOm although if they introduced fantast Stick
four in What If, then now that would be a ridiculous.
They're never going to do that, Like everyone was expecting
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that to happen in One Division. The two things everyone
was sure we're going to happen in one Division is
that Read Richards was going to be the guy that
when when they they're told that Monica Rambo knows a guy,
that that that guy was gonna be Read Richards and
it wasn't. And the other thing, of course was that
you know, Mephisto was behind it all, and a theory
(26:28):
that I still loved heard talked about even you know,
no matter what Marvel property it is, I'm pretty sure
that's Mephisto behind it all. Yeah. Yeah, Um, I want
to see an episode that is all Howard the Duck.
Surprise surprise, Yeah, um, I guess. But they give Seth
Green a lot of work, right, because he's the guy
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who does the voice for him. Yeah. I mean he
was in the Guardians of Galaxy episode, which that's a
tiny spoiler if you haven't watched that one yet, but
you know, he was also in the movie. So um,
I liked him. I would I would love to watch
something like that. I couldn't I wouldn't be able to
say it would be happy, but it would be probably
be fun. Um, you know, I'm I'm surprised honestly that
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Hulu came out with the Hit Monkey series instead of
just throwing that character into what If. Yeah. Yeah, we
didn't talk about Hit Monkey, but that is a weird
that's a weird concept for a show. It's so adult
that they're like barely associating it with Marvel. Yeah, because
it's Yeah, it's well it's kind of like, how do
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you incorporate Deadpool into the m c U, right, Like,
how do you how do you manage to put those
two things together where totally they are so different and um,
you know, content wise, like Deadpool's content is just so
edgy compared to the stuff you get out on Marvel.
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The same thing with Hit Monkey. Like Hit Monkey is
it's about It's about a monkey that that that goes
on a revenge killing spree. Yeah, now they could bring
Deadpool into the what If. I mean, they've already showed
that they can mash it up with Marvel somewhat well.
The whole free Grant Free Guide trailer with him and
Corg was delightful and relatively family friendly, So it would
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be fun if they could. If they snuck in a
Deadpool moment in what If before It's over, I think
that would be incredible. I agree, I think that would
be great. Like the neat thing about the Waif series
two is that again, it just gives the people that
the chance to to present scenarios that they could not
possibly support in a longer form comic book, And it
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was the spirit of what If, I would say, is
the same spirit you would get when a bunch of
geeks get around and they would just start spitballing stuff
like the stuff that you would see in the film
Stand By Me, where you're like, who would win in
a fight? Superman or Mighty Mouse? Not completely dissimilar to
what you do. No, no, So therefore, that's part of
why I think it appeals so much to me. I
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am curious to see the rest of the series. I
am hopeful we get a couple more lighthearted entries. I'm
sure we'll get some more you know, dark grim stuff too.
M hmm. Yeah, speaking of dark and grim, we should
take another break and then get into our mashups. You know, Ariel,
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People are strange when you're a stranger. Aces look ugly
when you're alone. Are you quoting The Lost Boys? I'm quoting.
I'm quoting a song by The Doors that was featured
in The Lost Boys. People are strange. Although I think
it might have been the Echo and the bunny Man
version that was in Lost Boys. I would have to
go and look at the soundtrack listing at this point. Yeah.
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I alluded to this earlier in the episode. Lost Boys
is a film that's getting a remake, and with you know,
brand new actors and stuff, and so Lost Boys was
one of those movies that people in my generation kind
of latch onto as being sort of a classic you know,
halloween slash horror slash vampire movie, um with like you know,
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key for Sutherland in it and stuff, and that it's
like this this film where you've got this sort of
biker punk gang of vampires in this little fictional beach
town in California, and then you've got this family that's
just moving into that town and they get mixed up
with the vampires and then it becomes kind of a
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vampire movie and it's, um, it's really entertaining. Yeah, well
they're remaking it, and this time with Jid Martell and
no A Juke. Jid Martell is from it, he played
Bill and no A Jew is the boy from the
Quiet Place, um, who have both grown up over the pandemic,
but they still look so young to me. Like, I
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haven't watched The Lost Boys a lot, although I have
seen it, you know, I haven't watched it multiple times
like many of the people I know, and like Corey
Hame looked young in that movie. Yeah, but Keifer Sutherland
and is it Liam Michelle was she the love interest. Oh,
i'd have to look, I am the worst when it
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comes to names. Uh, they look they looked like adults
to me, so it felt very off. Yeah. Jamie Gertz
was the the female lead. She played Um but yeah,
like um, the two Coriries, Hayman and Feldman, we're both
they both looked very young in it or pretty young
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in it. And Keifer Settling like an older teenager, maybe
like someone who's maybe in the early and he's like,
that's kind of how the gang looked. And the the
actors that have been picked for this remake look significantly younger.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It doesn't
need to be like a beat for beat remake of
the original for it to work well. Much like it,
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there are some disturbing um coming into your puberty moments
um for it that if they include in this remake
with the young boys might also be a little bit
uncomfortable for like me to watch. I mean, I know
Jade Martell is eighteen, but he looks like he's twelve. Um. Yeah,
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so it's just that disconnect. Well, that is going to
be one of our Oh and I was right. It
was the Echo and the Bunnyman version. I had to
look it up after I said it. Um, that's one
of the two properties where matching up the other one
is sort of I guess I'm Arie'll tell me if
I'm wrong here, But you picked it perhaps because of
the Sparks documentary. That is correct. We're doing Toy Story, yeah,
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so so I mean, if you don't know what Toy
Story is, I don't know where you've been over the
last like two decades, three decades. Toy Story obviously Pixar's
first really big hit as a as a feature film.
As their first feature film, it features toys that take
on a life of their own whenever people are not
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paying attention, and um, yeah, it's spawned a beloved franchise
of films and now we're going to ruin it. Yes, um,
and I'm going to ruin it first. So I bet
you titled Your's the same thing I titled Mine the
Lost Toys. There you go, Well, let's see if they're
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the same story. I hope, But I really, I really
Sometimes I just I suggest things before I think about them,
and then I have a heck of a time actually
writing it. So wood he was depressed, with Andy and
Molly grown up, and he and the other toys donated
to new homes. What he found himself in the attic
of a house in California, with no one left to
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care about him, and he was lonely. Then one day,
staring out the window of his now about banded home,
he saw a familiar face he never thought he would
see again, Baby Face, one of the lost toys created
by Sid, laying on the sidewalk. Then what he saw
a kid pick up the spider Baby toy and return
it to a house across the street. The kid went
in but never came back out, even after days. You
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see what, he was a toy, so he never needed
to sleep. He could just stare out the window for days,
and that's what he did. He was absolutely perplexed and
decided to go investigate. When what he got to the
lost Toys home, he was surprised that Sid lived there,
and was even more surprised that Sid was still a kid,
and Sid was not the only kid in the house.
In fact, there were only kids in the house and
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no parents. And that's when what he heard of from
under the couch, which wasn't actually it was a sound
of legs, reeling out her fishing line, hooking Woody and
pulling him under the couch with her. She ushered him
back to the room where the rest of the Lost
Toys are being kept and explained what was happening. You see,
Sid was a kid with little self control and less
self worth, so one day, when he met a bunch
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of ne'er do wells during one of his rebellious outings,
of course he joined their motorcycle gang, and then he
had no qualms joining their ranks once he learned they
were actually vampires. The Lost Toys had been waiting anxiously
for the day when Sid would move out so they
would maybe finally find loving homes with non judgmental, sweet
loving children, and once Sid disappeared with the vampire gang,
they thought that day had come. They were packed up
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to be donated, and then it happened a couple of
kids ruined the vampire secret hotel hideout where Sid was staying,
and the vamp gang needed a new place to stay, So,
of course Sid offered to let them move into his
house if, of course, they would help him get rid
of his parents, because his parents wouldn't agree to it,
and that's just what happened. Sid infested his house with
his vampire friends. It was horrible news for the Lost Toys.
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Once the vampires moved in, each one claimed one of
Sid Sid's mutant toys to help them lore victims back
to the house for food or increasing their ranks. You see,
vampires are less than human, and now that they were
less than human, they could see that the toys were
living creatures, and the Lost Toys hated this. Their long
away to day of freedom seemed like it was never
going to come. Or The kids who found and returned
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the Lost Toys didn't mind their garish appearance and would
make loving homes for them. But once they returned the
toys to Sid's house, they were eaten or turned into
vampires themselves. The Lost Toys thought they would never experience
love and forever be tools of the murdering monsters in
their home. But when Wood He got there, he gave
them new hope. He had survived so many bad turns
of fate and gotten out of so many situations. Surely
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he could help. Thankfully. What he had spent many days
alone in his attic, watching vampire movies through the window
of his neighbor's house, which you know, it's a little creepy,
but he's a toy, so who really cares. So he
knew exactly how to free the lost Toys and vanquish
the vampires. They team up like the good old days,
and through a montage of home alone antics mixed with
a lot of fire sharpened pencils and windows, they attacked
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the vamps. It was a gruesome scene of vamp on
toy action. They had just finished off the final original
vampire and we're about to start in on the newer
recruits that they had lured. When all the new recruits
turned back into kids, apparently they hadn't become full vampires yet,
and each re enlivened child was so grateful that they
adopted their lost toy and gave it a loving home.
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And what he found a new purpose monster slaying with
all the toys in their new homes. He flopped off
into the sunset, never to be heard of again. Okay, well,
I think we have slightly different mash ups. So here's mine,
also called the Lost Toys. Buzz Lightyear has a problem.
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He's just been brought home as a gift for a
young boy named Sam Emerson as Sam's family is moving
into Sam's grand father's home in Santa Carla, California. Also
in the home is Sam's older brother Michael, their mom Lucy,
and their grandfather just plain old Grandpa. But that's not
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buzz Is problem. No, his problem has to do with
other toys. Sam takes Buzz with him as he visits
the local boardwalk and Buzz sees there are these signs
up about missing toys, which, yeah, that's weird, but this
is Santa Carla, I mean, weird is kind of their thing.
And Buzz spots this gorgeous toy around the corner, a
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shepherdess who seems to be in some sort of relationship
with a cowboy toy. At night, when Sam is asleep
and Buzz can move around, Buzz does them exploring, including
a local comic book store. They're a pair of squeaky
frog toys named Edgar and Alan, the frog brothers. Warren
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Buzz that Santa Carla is home to a force of evil,
but then they also spend all their time in the
horror comics section of the comic bookstore and it probably
just rubbed off. Buzz on his way home, spots the
Shepherdess again and approaches. She introduces herself as bo Peep
and invites him to follow her to a gathering. That
gathering is a group of toys on the beach around
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a little fake bonfire, you know, one of those that
has lights, and it's got fabric flames and a little
fan to blow the fabric and flames around. Anyway, the
toys are all hard cases, and the leader of the group,
known as Woody, is the hardest of them all, like
he's hard plastic. Anyway, Woody offers Buzz some quote unquote
special batteries. Bo Peep warns Buzz not to take them,
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but Buzz, wanting to be accepted, does so anyway and
inserts them into his battery pack. Next thing, we see
Buzz quote unquote waking up back at the Emerson home.
He seems to have no memory of how he got
back there, but his voice Modu keeps going off and
it's saying weird stuff like I'm Buzz Lightyear blah blah,
and watch me hearn into a bat which it totally
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did not do that before. Sam is a bit concerned
over his toy. He thinks it might be broken. Buzz
once alone tries to remove the special batteries from his
battery pack, but they are corroded into place and he
can't budge them. That night, he seeks out the Frog Brothers,
who immediately recognized the Buzz has been corrupted with batteries
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that they say run on vampire power. Buzz says, yeah,
that's not what vampire power means, but it seems to
have little effect on the Frog Brothers. At first, they
consider eradicating Buzz, but he convinces them to help him
find a way to reverse the corruption. To do that,
say the Frog Brothers, they need to take out the
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lead vampire power toy Woody. So Buzz leads the Frog
Brothers to the toy gangs hideout the backyard of a
particularly twisted kid named Sid. But he's actually not important
to our story, so I'm just throwing that in for flavor.
As they sneak around, they encounter potato Head and they
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steak him a steak and potatoes don't mix, potato Head says,
as the vampire life sleeps out of him. But but
they do, though, says that they do mix, like like
that's a thing, that's that's the thing that exists. Steak
and potatoes. The group retreats back to Sam Emerson's home,
shaken by the experience. A bit later, they hear noise
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and realize that the house is under assault. The toys
underwood E's direction are attacking, and so Buzz and the
frogs go on this wild vampire power toy slaughter. They
use stuff like pushing electric toys into bathtubs filled with
water so that they short out, or they knock more
delicate toys down the stairs to break into pieces. Or
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they might knock one particularly flammable toy into a fireplace
that's on for some reason, even though this is California
and it never gets cold enough for it there to
be a fire anyway, it comes down to a showdown
between Buzz and Woody. The two have this knock down,
drag out fight, and it looks like Woody is gonna
get the upper hand. When Buzz and desperation manages to
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get Wood, he's pull string hooked on a coat hook
on the on the door, and wood he unable to
advance because he's tethered to the door, finds himself face
to face with Buzz holding a toothpick, and Buzz says, right,
a good catchphrase here, which is clearly a note for me.
But I didn't I didn't do that in time for
the movie to be made, and he plunges the toothpick
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into Woody's chest. Woody's voice box scrambles a bit, and
you hear there's a sneaking one last time before he
drops Lifeless. But despite taking out Woody Buzzes batteries are
still corroded into place. Suddenly the door opens and there's
a toy to renaisseurs Rex there, the true leader of
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the vampiric power toys. The Frog Brothers yell, it's the
head vampire that one just as the as Rex Knox
Buzz prone standing over him his jaws, and then suddenly,
from behind him one of those like go kart size
military jeeps, you know, like the kind that's made for kids.
It just comes barreling through the door, running over the
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t Rex and as the life ebbs from Rex's eyes, Buzz,
here's this clattering sound and it's the batteries they've fallen
out of his battery pack. He looks up and he says,
the grandpa was driving the jeep, and so Buzz immediately
falls slack to the ground. But looks like Grandpa might
already know what's up, and he quietly picks up Buzz
and he carries him back up to Sam's room, tucks
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Buzz into bed, and then says one thing about living
in Santa Carla. Never could stomach all the damn Vampire
Toys credits. I never knew how well like, how seamlessly
those two properties would shop. It's disturbing. I mean, I
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literally just took the plot of Lost Boys and replaced characters.
Did you do you pick Rex because it was the
closest to Max that had vampire from the Lost Boys?
I didn't. I picked Rex. I picked Rex because I
was trying to think of who would be an unexpected
toy from the toy story universe to actually be in
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charge of everything, and Rex is the one I would
think would be wreck. Actually, Slinky Dog is probably the
least likely, but Rex would be like right behind Slinky Dog. Um.
You know, I just was trying to think of one
that would be the least likely to be the head
of the vampires. I also was very pleased with my
Frog Brothers because Frog is the last name of the
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two brothers in Lost Boys who are obsessed with vampires
and become vampire hunters as the movie progresses. Yes, if this,
if this were a championship, I would give you the belt.
I mean, it's all about working in the references. This
was this was a fun one. I honestly, as I
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started off, I wasn't sure I was gonna be able
to do it. That which frequently the way I feel
when I start these things. But um, you know, once
agat into a groove, I felt like it went pretty well.
But that's just my version, and that was arials version.
If you have a version of how you would mash
up Lost Boys and toy story and maybe you have
Lost Boys story who knows, which sounds like it would
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My Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerd
Drunk Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky
things happening in the world around us and how excited
we are to talk about them. I'm Ariel casting and
(00:30):
with me as always is the awesome Jonathan Strickland. And
before you say anything, Jonathan, I almost said, and all
the freaky things in the world happening around us, because
it's been that kind of a day. How are you.
I'm I'm I'm freaky, I'm super freaking out. That's where I'm. Yeah,
(00:50):
I am, I am. No. Three is not a crowd
for me. I say, wait, no, I can't say that. Wait,
but that's in the in the song. It's in the song. Yeah,
all right, okay, okay, you know what I'm going to
get us back on track. You threw me off, Ariel,
but I got a question for you. Okay, Ariel, here's
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your question, and this one's a nice innocent question, so
we can get this back on the family Friendly Trek
it's supposed to be on. What is a book that
you have read multiple times and why do you like
to read it. I would say that would be a
Phantom Tollbooth, yes, I know, or the Phantom Tollbooth. I
(01:35):
know it's a children's story, but I just love all
of the word play in it. I think it's super clever. Um.
But it's more uplifting than let's say, a Series of
Unfortunate Events, which also likes to play with grammar and
words and children's intelligence, but it's on a darker level.
So yeah, the Phantom Tollbooth. It's one of my one
of my like my favorites outside of like, you know,
(01:57):
the Chronicles of Narnia, The Lord of the Rings. Um,
it's the best standalone book that I read over and
over again. That's great. It's a good answer. Yeah, what
about you? Okay, I was wondering if you're gonna get
around to asking me. Well, I thought about not. But
then there's actually quite a few books that I like
(02:17):
to read over and over again. Some of them some
of them are are more lighthearted, like The Hobbit is
a book that I often refer to as being my
favorite of all time, which is probably not not accurate.
It was certainly my favorite book as a kid. Um,
and I still very much enjoy it. I just don't
know that I have the same like it. You know
how things change in your estimation over time, not that
(02:40):
they get worse or anything, but you just start to
appreciate other stuff. But I would say probably Good Omens
the Terry Pratchett Neil Gaiman novel. I came across that
while having having already read some of Neil Gaiman's work
and a little bit more of Terry Pratchett's work, and
someone described ribed it to me. And this is a
(03:01):
description that a lot of people use as Hitchhiker's Guide
to the Apocalypse. And I was a big fan of
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and I absolutely loved the
humor and the satire and the very human story that's
told in there. And um, yeah, so that that's probably
one of those. It's also the book that I think
I've purchased the most because I'm one of those people
(03:26):
who would buy a copy. I would lend it out
to someone saying, you've got to read this, never get
it back, and so I would go out and buy
another copy. I now have it digitally with Good Omens.
I don't know this happens to me, with most of
Terry Pratchett's stuff, I pick up the book to read
it and I'll read like a chapter and I'll put
(03:46):
it down, and then like months later, I'll come back
and read another chapter. And that's how I read good
omens um take the story, and I like the TV
show and I'm interested about the sequel. But yeah, it's
it's just for some reason, Terry Pratchett is tiny, tiny,
small chunks. For me. It's probably the easier to understand
if I didn't do it that way. Uh. Yeah. I
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like a lot of the Discworld novels. I will say
that towards the end of the Discworld novels, towards the
end of Practet's life, unfortunately, um, I was feeling like
they were starting to get a bit repetitive, and so
I kind of fell off of them after a while.
But the earlier ones are some of my Again, there's
so much humor and satire, and it's all in this
(04:28):
sort of fantasy world trappings. Just very very clever, a
lot of fun. We will try to be very clever then,
will definitely be fun. As we talk about some news
stories for the top of the show. Yes, and this
first one is about a bunch of clever and fun people,
specifically the animators who make the Pixar shorts, um the
(04:50):
Sparks Stories. So if you're not familiar with Sparks Stories,
you know all those little pigs are short, uh short
films in front of like a big Pixar movie, and
how we all loved them. Well, I think starting the pandemic,
wasn't it, Jonathan when they started releasing Sparks Stories. Yeah, yeah,
I it was one of those things that I didn't
notice at first, is when when I logged into Disney
(05:11):
Plus one day, I saw that and I thought, huh,
I guess this is like just a collection of all
the shorts, And no, it's it's not just that. It's
it's short short pieces that have been created by Pixar
uh employees that maybe none of them, like some of
them had had never been screened really on a big
screen to the general public like it had been seen
(05:33):
inside Pixar. But that was about it. And um, I
remember watching one and my my uh wife and I
were watching it and we were shocked because there was
a joke that was it wasn't dirty, but it was
a little body. It was more body than what you
would expect to see in a Pixar film, like especially
you know, like that Disney style Pixar film, And it
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took us by surprise, and that's when we said, oh,
this is something a little different. This isn't just like
the little amuse bush before the main course of a
Pixar movie. And they're very they're very fun to watch.
This documentary is following two filmmakers as they go through
the process of developing and writing and animating their works,
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and so it's kind of talking about what that process is,
like how personal it can be for storytellers, and that
this is one of the ways that picks our helps
to develop their future, you know, lead storytellers, the people
who will pick up the baton and make the Pixar
classics of the future. Yeah, if you had asked me
(06:43):
if I wanted a Pixar documentary, I probably would have told,
you know. And this is even after having like looked
into their company history at one point in time, back
when you and I were doing The Brink. But the
trailer for the for the documentary looks absolutely uplifting and delightful,
and it's something I need in my life right now. Agreed. Yeah,
(07:05):
it's got a very positive sort of feel to it,
like you feel like there's gonna be there's gonna be
some conflict, there's gonna be some challenges and stuff that
people have to overcome because maybe you maybe you come
up with an idea and then you realize later that
the idea you had is not something that's working out
or whatever, but that ultimately it does have this kind
of optimistic and creative spirit to it. Um. Have you
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watched any of the Sparks shorts. I've watched a couple
of them. The Little Boy Who flew Um, I don't
remember the name of it. I haven't seen that one.
I saw the Ball of Yarn one. Did you see
that one? I did not see that one. The Ball
of Yarn one was the one that shocked us with
having us I mean body joke. I'll tell you after
the podcast, because I love the joke. It's a great joke. Excellent.
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I can't wait to hear it. Another thing that might
have somebody jokes in it that we don't know yet.
What is the around the World in Nadie Days mini
series were about to get which I don't recall. Having
learned about this in the past. What about you, Jan, Nope,
I didn't know about so. First of all, Around the
World in eighty Days is a Jules Verne story that's
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been adapted numerous times. Um, you know, having having everyone
from Jackie Chan to Jackie Chan in it. And uh
it's um uh serious story about a very educated but
somewhat childish man, Phileas Fogg, who makes a bet with
a bunch of snooty British aristocrats that he can circumnavigate
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the globe in eighty days and if if he loses,
he has to pay up some outlined and just think
it's like twenty thou pounds or something, some crazy amount
of money. Um. And like I said, there's been a
lot of adaptations, but this one's got a great actor
in it. Um who who who? Oh nice joke. It's
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David Tennant which slash film. The slash film article that
will link on our website. Large you're drawn Collider about this.
It's like, yeah, he traveled the stars as Doctor Who,
but he can barely make it around the world in
any days. Um, paraphrasing a little bit, but it is
pretty funny. Um. The trailer looks cute. I had I
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was talking about this with my folks the other day
and one of them asked me how many times are
they going to remake this movie? And I said, they've
got to do it once for every generation if you
want this story to like continue on, if you want
the classics to continue on, and you try to show
like whatever generation is after millennials, an old version of
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around the world in eighty days, likely it's not going
to grasp their attention. So maybe it's just the every
ten years bid to keep this story alive. First of all,
I agree with you. Second of all, gen Z, I
love you. Nif aial doesn't, I do love you, I
just don't. Third of all, no, but I think you're
making an excellent point there, arial because as I had
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a very similar discussion about something else we'll talk about
much later in this episode, a different remake where you know,
I know that there's a sort of knee jerk reaction
among people to say, why are they remaking that isn't
the version that we already have perfectly, you know, fine
already And in some cases I can fall into that trap,
(10:22):
but I try to remind myself, like you were saying,
this is a way to make a story appealing and
relevant to a different generation, people who don't necessarily have
a connection to the actors who are in a previous version,
or maybe the previous version looks dated, maybe it looks,
you know, a little clunky to their eyes, and that
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they wouldn't engage with it otherwise. And in that sense,
it's kind of like theater, right, Like every production you
see of any show is going to be different in
some ways to all the other productions. So I'm okay
with I don't like what they've done to this story.
I'm okay. I'm he with the idea. Mostly. I mean,
there are cases where I start questioning things, like, you know,
(11:04):
the remake of Psycho that was a shot for shot remake.
I thought, well, what's I don't even understand the point
of that. But um, but others I'm like, no, I
can I'm this this isn't for me. First of all,
I have to start with this is not for me,
and that's okay, And if it works on a different
level for other audiences, that's great. Yeah. I tend to
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be more forgiving about it. With like classic literature that
this is done with, then maybe just a really good
movie that started off as a movie. I don't know why.
And maybe it's just you know that that Gooney's effect
of what I watched as a kid and holds the
perfect place in my heart for me versus anybody else.
But yeah, like if you do it with Shakespeare, I'll
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watch a Brazilian Shakespeare revisions. I can definitely see that.
It's just I sit there and I think about, Okay,
how many movies from the nineteen fifties and ninth sixties
did I seek out to watch because I knew that
people older than than my generation like them, and the
list is pretty small, And and I sit there and think, well,
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if they remade that with a cast that was contemporary
to me, and I knew the actors and I knew
like the director or whatever, then I might be more
inclined to see it, even though it's you know, sacrilege
because they're remaking a classic film. But yeah, I feel
the same way. Like if if I were to hear
oh Abrams is he got the go ahead to do
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a remake of E T I would probably be like
pitching a fit outside right now. Yeah. Yeah, And the
other thing is, you know some some classic movies and
probably you know I haven't read around the world in
eighty days and forever, so probably even that story, you know,
has some things that are problematic nowadays. If you change
it too much, then you should just make it its
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own new thing. Um yeah, but uh so, you know,
it's it is a a place where people can be
very opinionated, and it's it's a very tricky, tricky thing
to do, right. Yeah, it's a tight rope, right, Like,
if you go too close to the source material, then
you're boring. If you go too far away, then people
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are saying, why did you even bother calling it this?
And or you know, if you're going too close to
the source material, and as you say, if the source
material happens to contain stuff that just does not work
in a modern setting, like in a with a modern audience,
like it is not gonna play well, it's gonna it's
gonna be seen for what it was, which is probably
a bad take. It was always a bad take, it's
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just now we recognize it as a bad take. You know,
you wanna you don't want to inflict that on your
audience necessarily, So yeah, it's tricky. Yeah, but you know
who is timeless Jonathan uh if you if you, I
think I do know, but I want to hear you
say it. Okay, yeah, I know that warming uh anti
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hero from Marvel. Yeah. Well, we're not gonna spend too
much time on this. I just wanted to, you know.
Ariel made the lineup, as she always does because she's amazing,
and one of the things she put in was that
there was the the let There Be Carnage TV spot
for the new Venom movie as well some posters, and
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the thing that I thought was interesting, it wasn't. Really.
The TV spot actually didn't do much for me. To
be fair, I am I am not the person for Venom, Like,
that's not that's not my bag. But the thing I
was talking about with Ariel before we started recording is
that I find the marketing for this movie to be
absolutely perplexing because the trailers we saw early on seemed
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to really emphasize the humorous relationship between Eddie and Venom,
right like there's this constant struggle between the two, and
then this TV spot makes it look more like a
classic kind of horror movie, and so it starts to
raise the question of what kind of movie is this really?
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Is it? Is it primarily a horror movie with some
elements of humor. Is it primarily kind of a buddy
cop film with some elements of horror. It's hard to say.
It is the first one. I felt rode the line
pretty well because it was scary, but it was also funny.
But you know, Carnage is as all the trailers will
lead you to believe a bigger batter symbiote. So, um,
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I'm gonna watch it. I'll let you know, Jonathan, that's good, Yeah, godspeed,
I uh yeah, I mean for me, it's again. It's
just coming down to the marketing thing. Like I look
at the marketing and I think about other movies that
were marketed in different ways, Like the original Suicide Squad
movie had very different marketing attached to it throughout before
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its release, and that movie turned into a total mess.
So I always get a little like and see when
I see a film where I feel like the people
behind the campaign didn't actually know how to market the film.
That's what it comes across as to me. Yeah, yeah,
you know, it's probably why I didn't watch the first
one for so long, but I did enjoy it personal.
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That's good. That's good. We have one less story that
we're going to touch on real quick before the break,
and that is that we're getting a new digital Pokemon
card game. Whoo, just to lighten the mood a little bit. Yeah,
it's like a celebrating it's a anniversary in this Pokemon.
How is it years old? I mean like it's still ariel.
(16:39):
I'm still of an age where I still call it
Pokemon's okay, Like I don't know your charizards from your
Pikachu's or your Squirtles or whatever the heck they are
so so to me, it's all to me. It's all
all all Greek. But yeah, there's there had been a
digital card game of Pokemon where you collect Pokemon and
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you battle people, but it was really limited and it
was really clunky. And so now there's a new free
to play Pokemon digital card game that's available on a
lot more platforms. So that's great. Yeah. The other nice
thing about it is they have there will probably be
some micro transactions, but they haven't really talked about it.
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So it seems like to play this game, uh, most
of it will be free and you'll be able to
pour it over your cards that you have in real
life and from the old game. So they're they're really
trying to make this accessible, which I think is great
for Pokemon because it's it's something that I've seen lived
through many generations of children. At this point, um and
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you know, I'll be at you're fighting animals until they
make each other pass out. But compared to a lot
of entertainment nowadays, it's pretty wholesome. So yes, and as
they say, you have no choice but to collect every
single one of them, I'm pretty sure that's how it goes.
That's that's what I do with Pringles. All right, Well,
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on that note, we're gonna go into a quick break,
but when we come back, we're gonna ask the question
what if? What if? Alright, we're back. I've recomposed myself.
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It was pretty impressive to watch her do that on camera, like, actually,
you know, reconnect all of her pieces so that she
was a whole aerial once again. Yeah, I'm just actually
a jigsaw puzzle of complexity, just like all of the
what if stories we've been getting from Marvel. Yeah, So
Ariel and I have both caught up on the what
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If series that's streaming on Disney Plus right now. If
you are not familiar with what if. It is a
line of special com x that came out from Marvel
that just asked the question what if and then you
have a different scenario. Gave Marvel artists and writers a
chance to play around with characters that you normally you
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wouldn't have that much leeway because these are money making figures,
so you can't do anything too crazy with them, um like,
you can kill them up, but you gotta bring them back.
So the way if series didn't have those limitations, so
they could ask questions like, you know, what if Aunt
May got bit by the radioactive Spider instead of Peter Parker,
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Like those are the kind of question. So some of
them could be very, very silly, and some of them
could be very not silly. And we're we're kind of
seeing that with the the streaming series too, which is
taking the Marvel Universe as it exists from the m
c U. So it's the m c U versions of
these characters, often voiced, not not always, but often voiced
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by the actors who played those characters on screen, and
putting them into different scenarios. So these are not retellings
of the classic what if comic books. They are new
what if scenarios using the mc U version of comic
book characters. And I was so hopeful when the series
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first came out because the first two episodes left me
feeling pretty good. Um yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah.
I was like after Endgame, which was so, you know,
largely sad. Yeah, but one division had at oh ah soldier,
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that was okay, that was okay, it was he was
in a better spot at the end than he was
the beginning. So well, he's Captain America, so definitely. Uh.
And I guess Loki had Um, Loki was like a
LOOKI was like a lateral move because he was essentially
in the same like weird situation at the end as
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he had been in the beginning. Spoiler alert for anyone
who hasn't seen Loki. But and and we're gonna try
not to spoil any of the wide IF episodes in particular.
But as you say, like, I think we're on what episode,
like episode six was the one that just played, I
think so, um it was five Okay, So more than
half of them have had endings that were perhaps more
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of the bummer end of the spectrum. Um, and I
had I had even warned my wife when we first
started watching it, I told her, I said, now, listen,
I've read the what If comics. Things do not always
end so well in what If. Like often often the
question is what if and it seems kind of lighthearted
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or interesting or uh maybe just silly or whatever, but
it frequently ends poorly, kind of like a Twilight Zone
episode or a horror movie where your characters end up
in a situation at the end that is not good.
That is frequently the way what If plays out, And
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the theory I gave Arial is that it sends the
message that the actual Marvel timeline is the superior Marvel timeline,
and any deviation from that ends in sadness. But but
here's the thing that I think is, if that's the case,
very poor is that Okay? Then I don't want to
watch this next uh, this next phase because it's all
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going to be sadness. Um and I I but want
the multiverse to be full of wacky z any fun adventures. Well, Loki,
it was full of some wacky z any fun stuff
in addition to some pretty grim stuff. So I suspect
like the Marvel films have always had at least some
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element of humor. And self awareness to them. I don't
think that's gonna go away. Um. I think that the
multiverse will give them the ants too explore. Some stuff
that might be a little experimental is probably going too
far because this is still Disney and Marvel. I don't
think they're going to push the envelope too hard, but
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they might be able to do some stuff that is
a departure from their typical MCU approach. Yeah, I can
see that. And and to be fair, you know, I
watched Hung XI and that was an absolute delight. Um,
But yeah, I don't I don't know. I was and
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I get that it's a cartoon, so you want to
make sure that adults know that it's for them. But
I was hoping that more of the episodes would have
a bit more levity to them. That being said, the
zombie episode, which I don't think is a spoiler because
there are flipping funko pops out about zombie and and
the zombie and the zombie stuff in Marvel has been
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and I apologize, my dog is going to join in
on the conversation here, but the MBI stuff with Marvel
has been uh, you know, it's been covered quite a
bit in the comics right, their entire graphic novels that
are about that sort of alternate reality. Yeah, well that's
what I was gonna say, is I feel like this now.
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Mind you, I've mainly had the Marvel Zombies explained to me,
but between that and watching the what If episode with Zombies,
I feel like there was more levity and and a
bit of more of a story that I could get
behind in the what If version than the Marvel Zombies
series itself. Yeah. No, yeah it was. It was not
as I mean, well, it was not as drawn out
(24:37):
as the Marvel Zombie series, which really takes its time
and absolutely destroying all the characters you know and love. Um. Yeah, Like,
I would love it if there were at least one
or two more lighthearted what ifs. Um, something that would
be a little more uplifting or jovial be great, because
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the dark stuff does get a little wearing after a while. Um.
If I want that, I'll watch DC content, which we
know how much you love DC. Yeah that's that's that
was me throwing shade at d c Um. There is
one that I would love. I mean, it won't happen
because they haven't introduced the Fantastic four yet and the
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m c U. But there there was one I remember
where it was what If Dr Doom was a good guy,
and I want to say he was even in gold
armor in that What If comic. It's hard for me
to remember. This was like one that might have dated
from the eighties, and um, but I would love to
have seen like something along those lines. It actually would
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be fun to see what If and they picked some
villain and they make that villain the good guy. We
kind of got a little bit of that in the
Guardians of the Galaxy one, but don't want to say
too much about it. A little bit. Yeah, um, I
would watch Dr JOm although if they introduced fantast Stick
four in What If, then now that would be a ridiculous.
They're never going to do that, Like everyone was expecting
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that to happen in One Division. The two things everyone
was sure we're going to happen in one Division is
that Read Richards was going to be the guy that
when when they they're told that Monica Rambo knows a guy,
that that that guy was gonna be Read Richards and
it wasn't. And the other thing, of course was that
you know, Mephisto was behind it all, and a theory
(26:28):
that I still loved heard talked about even you know,
no matter what Marvel property it is, I'm pretty sure
that's Mephisto behind it all. Yeah. Yeah, Um, I want
to see an episode that is all Howard the Duck.
Surprise surprise, Yeah, um, I guess. But they give Seth
Green a lot of work, right, because he's the guy
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who does the voice for him. Yeah. I mean he
was in the Guardians of Galaxy episode, which that's a
tiny spoiler if you haven't watched that one yet, but
you know, he was also in the movie. So um,
I liked him. I would I would love to watch
something like that. I couldn't I wouldn't be able to
say it would be happy, but it would be probably
be fun. Um, you know, I'm I'm surprised honestly that
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Hulu came out with the Hit Monkey series instead of
just throwing that character into what If. Yeah. Yeah, we
didn't talk about Hit Monkey, but that is a weird
that's a weird concept for a show. It's so adult
that they're like barely associating it with Marvel. Yeah, because
it's Yeah, it's well it's kind of like, how do
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you incorporate Deadpool into the m c U, right, Like,
how do you how do you manage to put those
two things together where totally they are so different and um,
you know, content wise, like Deadpool's content is just so
edgy compared to the stuff you get out on Marvel.
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The same thing with Hit Monkey. Like Hit Monkey is
it's about It's about a monkey that that that goes
on a revenge killing spree. Yeah, now they could bring
Deadpool into the what If. I mean, they've already showed
that they can mash it up with Marvel somewhat well.
The whole free Grant Free Guide trailer with him and
Corg was delightful and relatively family friendly, So it would
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be fun if they could. If they snuck in a
Deadpool moment in what If before It's over, I think
that would be incredible. I agree, I think that would
be great. Like the neat thing about the Waif series
two is that again, it just gives the people that
the chance to to present scenarios that they could not
possibly support in a longer form comic book, And it
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was the spirit of what If, I would say, is
the same spirit you would get when a bunch of
geeks get around and they would just start spitballing stuff
like the stuff that you would see in the film
Stand By Me, where you're like, who would win in
a fight? Superman or Mighty Mouse? Not completely dissimilar to
what you do. No, no, So therefore, that's part of
why I think it appeals so much to me. I
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am curious to see the rest of the series. I
am hopeful we get a couple more lighthearted entries. I'm
sure we'll get some more you know, dark grim stuff too.
M hmm. Yeah, speaking of dark and grim, we should
take another break and then get into our mashups. You know, Ariel,
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People are strange when you're a stranger. Aces look ugly
when you're alone. Are you quoting The Lost Boys? I'm quoting.
I'm quoting a song by The Doors that was featured
in The Lost Boys. People are strange. Although I think
it might have been the Echo and the bunny Man
version that was in Lost Boys. I would have to
go and look at the soundtrack listing at this point. Yeah.
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I alluded to this earlier in the episode. Lost Boys
is a film that's getting a remake, and with you know,
brand new actors and stuff, and so Lost Boys was
one of those movies that people in my generation kind
of latch onto as being sort of a classic you know,
halloween slash horror slash vampire movie, um with like you know,
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key for Sutherland in it and stuff, and that it's
like this this film where you've got this sort of
biker punk gang of vampires in this little fictional beach
town in California, and then you've got this family that's
just moving into that town and they get mixed up
with the vampires and then it becomes kind of a
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vampire movie and it's, um, it's really entertaining. Yeah, well
they're remaking it, and this time with Jid Martell and
no A Juke. Jid Martell is from it, he played
Bill and no A Jew is the boy from the
Quiet Place, um, who have both grown up over the pandemic,
but they still look so young to me. Like, I
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haven't watched The Lost Boys a lot, although I have
seen it, you know, I haven't watched it multiple times
like many of the people I know, and like Corey
Hame looked young in that movie. Yeah, but Keifer Sutherland
and is it Liam Michelle was she the love interest. Oh,
i'd have to look, I am the worst when it
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comes to names. Uh, they look they looked like adults
to me, so it felt very off. Yeah. Jamie Gertz
was the the female lead. She played Um but yeah,
like um, the two Coriries, Hayman and Feldman, we're both
they both looked very young in it or pretty young
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in it. And Keifer Settling like an older teenager, maybe
like someone who's maybe in the early and he's like,
that's kind of how the gang looked. And the the
actors that have been picked for this remake look significantly younger.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It doesn't
need to be like a beat for beat remake of
the original for it to work well. Much like it,
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there are some disturbing um coming into your puberty moments
um for it that if they include in this remake
with the young boys might also be a little bit
uncomfortable for like me to watch. I mean, I know
Jade Martell is eighteen, but he looks like he's twelve. Um. Yeah,
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so it's just that disconnect. Well, that is going to
be one of our Oh and I was right. It
was the Echo and the Bunnyman version. I had to
look it up after I said it. Um, that's one
of the two properties where matching up the other one
is sort of I guess I'm Arie'll tell me if
I'm wrong here, But you picked it perhaps because of
the Sparks documentary. That is correct. We're doing Toy Story, yeah,
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so so I mean, if you don't know what Toy
Story is, I don't know where you've been over the
last like two decades, three decades. Toy Story obviously Pixar's
first really big hit as a as a feature film.
As their first feature film, it features toys that take
on a life of their own whenever people are not
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paying attention, and um, yeah, it's spawned a beloved franchise
of films and now we're going to ruin it. Yes, um,
and I'm going to ruin it first. So I bet
you titled Your's the same thing I titled Mine the
Lost Toys. There you go, Well, let's see if they're
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the same story. I hope, But I really, I really
Sometimes I just I suggest things before I think about them,
and then I have a heck of a time actually
writing it. So wood he was depressed, with Andy and
Molly grown up, and he and the other toys donated
to new homes. What he found himself in the attic
of a house in California, with no one left to
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care about him, and he was lonely. Then one day,
staring out the window of his now about banded home,
he saw a familiar face he never thought he would
see again, Baby Face, one of the lost toys created
by Sid, laying on the sidewalk. Then what he saw
a kid pick up the spider Baby toy and return
it to a house across the street. The kid went
in but never came back out, even after days. You
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see what, he was a toy, so he never needed
to sleep. He could just stare out the window for days,
and that's what he did. He was absolutely perplexed and
decided to go investigate. When what he got to the
lost Toys home, he was surprised that Sid lived there,
and was even more surprised that Sid was still a kid,
and Sid was not the only kid in the house.
In fact, there were only kids in the house and
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no parents. And that's when what he heard of from
under the couch, which wasn't actually it was a sound
of legs, reeling out her fishing line, hooking Woody and
pulling him under the couch with her. She ushered him
back to the room where the rest of the Lost
Toys are being kept and explained what was happening. You see,
Sid was a kid with little self control and less
self worth, so one day, when he met a bunch
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of ne'er do wells during one of his rebellious outings,
of course he joined their motorcycle gang, and then he
had no qualms joining their ranks once he learned they
were actually vampires. The Lost Toys had been waiting anxiously
for the day when Sid would move out so they
would maybe finally find loving homes with non judgmental, sweet
loving children, and once Sid disappeared with the vampire gang,
they thought that day had come. They were packed up
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to be donated, and then it happened a couple of
kids ruined the vampire secret hotel hideout where Sid was staying,
and the vamp gang needed a new place to stay, So,
of course Sid offered to let them move into his
house if, of course, they would help him get rid
of his parents, because his parents wouldn't agree to it,
and that's just what happened. Sid infested his house with
his vampire friends. It was horrible news for the Lost Toys.
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Once the vampires moved in, each one claimed one of
Sid Sid's mutant toys to help them lore victims back
to the house for food or increasing their ranks. You see,
vampires are less than human, and now that they were
less than human, they could see that the toys were
living creatures, and the Lost Toys hated this. Their long
away to day of freedom seemed like it was never
going to come. Or The kids who found and returned
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the Lost Toys didn't mind their garish appearance and would
make loving homes for them. But once they returned the
toys to Sid's house, they were eaten or turned into
vampires themselves. The Lost Toys thought they would never experience
love and forever be tools of the murdering monsters in
their home. But when Wood He got there, he gave
them new hope. He had survived so many bad turns
of fate and gotten out of so many situations. Surely
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he could help. Thankfully. What he had spent many days
alone in his attic, watching vampire movies through the window
of his neighbor's house, which you know, it's a little creepy,
but he's a toy, so who really cares. So he
knew exactly how to free the lost Toys and vanquish
the vampires. They team up like the good old days,
and through a montage of home alone antics mixed with
a lot of fire sharpened pencils and windows, they attacked
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the vamps. It was a gruesome scene of vamp on
toy action. They had just finished off the final original
vampire and we're about to start in on the newer
recruits that they had lured. When all the new recruits
turned back into kids, apparently they hadn't become full vampires yet,
and each re enlivened child was so grateful that they
adopted their lost toy and gave it a loving home.
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And what he found a new purpose monster slaying with
all the toys in their new homes. He flopped off
into the sunset, never to be heard of again. Okay, well,
I think we have slightly different mash ups. So here's mine,
also called the Lost Toys. Buzz Lightyear has a problem.
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He's just been brought home as a gift for a
young boy named Sam Emerson as Sam's family is moving
into Sam's grand father's home in Santa Carla, California. Also
in the home is Sam's older brother Michael, their mom Lucy,
and their grandfather just plain old Grandpa. But that's not
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buzz Is problem. No, his problem has to do with
other toys. Sam takes Buzz with him as he visits
the local boardwalk and Buzz sees there are these signs
up about missing toys, which, yeah, that's weird, but this
is Santa Carla, I mean, weird is kind of their thing.
And Buzz spots this gorgeous toy around the corner, a
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shepherdess who seems to be in some sort of relationship
with a cowboy toy. At night, when Sam is asleep
and Buzz can move around, Buzz does them exploring, including
a local comic book store. They're a pair of squeaky
frog toys named Edgar and Alan, the frog brothers. Warren
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Buzz that Santa Carla is home to a force of evil,
but then they also spend all their time in the
horror comics section of the comic bookstore and it probably
just rubbed off. Buzz on his way home, spots the
Shepherdess again and approaches. She introduces herself as bo Peep
and invites him to follow her to a gathering. That
gathering is a group of toys on the beach around
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a little fake bonfire, you know, one of those that
has lights, and it's got fabric flames and a little
fan to blow the fabric and flames around. Anyway, the
toys are all hard cases, and the leader of the group,
known as Woody, is the hardest of them all, like
he's hard plastic. Anyway, Woody offers Buzz some quote unquote
special batteries. Bo Peep warns Buzz not to take them,
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but Buzz, wanting to be accepted, does so anyway and
inserts them into his battery pack. Next thing, we see
Buzz quote unquote waking up back at the Emerson home.
He seems to have no memory of how he got
back there, but his voice Modu keeps going off and
it's saying weird stuff like I'm Buzz Lightyear blah blah,
and watch me hearn into a bat which it totally
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did not do that before. Sam is a bit concerned
over his toy. He thinks it might be broken. Buzz
once alone tries to remove the special batteries from his
battery pack, but they are corroded into place and he
can't budge them. That night, he seeks out the Frog Brothers,
who immediately recognized the Buzz has been corrupted with batteries
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that they say run on vampire power. Buzz says, yeah,
that's not what vampire power means, but it seems to
have little effect on the Frog Brothers. At first, they
consider eradicating Buzz, but he convinces them to help him
find a way to reverse the corruption. To do that,
say the Frog Brothers, they need to take out the
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lead vampire power toy Woody. So Buzz leads the Frog
Brothers to the toy gangs hideout the backyard of a
particularly twisted kid named Sid. But he's actually not important
to our story, so I'm just throwing that in for flavor.
As they sneak around, they encounter potato Head and they
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steak him a steak and potatoes don't mix, potato Head says,
as the vampire life sleeps out of him. But but
they do, though, says that they do mix, like like
that's a thing, that's that's the thing that exists. Steak
and potatoes. The group retreats back to Sam Emerson's home,
shaken by the experience. A bit later, they hear noise
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and realize that the house is under assault. The toys
underwood E's direction are attacking, and so Buzz and the
frogs go on this wild vampire power toy slaughter. They
use stuff like pushing electric toys into bathtubs filled with
water so that they short out, or they knock more
delicate toys down the stairs to break into pieces. Or
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they might knock one particularly flammable toy into a fireplace
that's on for some reason, even though this is California
and it never gets cold enough for it there to
be a fire anyway, it comes down to a showdown
between Buzz and Woody. The two have this knock down,
drag out fight, and it looks like Woody is gonna
get the upper hand. When Buzz and desperation manages to
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get Wood, he's pull string hooked on a coat hook
on the on the door, and wood he unable to
advance because he's tethered to the door, finds himself face
to face with Buzz holding a toothpick, and Buzz says, right,
a good catchphrase here, which is clearly a note for me.
But I didn't I didn't do that in time for
the movie to be made, and he plunges the toothpick
(42:29):
into Woody's chest. Woody's voice box scrambles a bit, and
you hear there's a sneaking one last time before he
drops Lifeless. But despite taking out Woody Buzzes batteries are
still corroded into place. Suddenly the door opens and there's
a toy to renaisseurs Rex there, the true leader of
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the vampiric power toys. The Frog Brothers yell, it's the
head vampire that one just as the as Rex Knox
Buzz prone standing over him his jaws, and then suddenly,
from behind him one of those like go kart size
military jeeps, you know, like the kind that's made for kids.
It just comes barreling through the door, running over the
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t Rex and as the life ebbs from Rex's eyes, Buzz,
here's this clattering sound and it's the batteries they've fallen
out of his battery pack. He looks up and he says,
the grandpa was driving the jeep, and so Buzz immediately
falls slack to the ground. But looks like Grandpa might
already know what's up, and he quietly picks up Buzz
and he carries him back up to Sam's room, tucks
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Buzz into bed, and then says one thing about living
in Santa Carla. Never could stomach all the damn Vampire
Toys credits. I never knew how well like, how seamlessly
those two properties would shop. It's disturbing. I mean, I
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literally just took the plot of Lost Boys and replaced characters.
Did you do you pick Rex because it was the
closest to Max that had vampire from the Lost Boys?
I didn't. I picked Rex. I picked Rex because I
was trying to think of who would be an unexpected
toy from the toy story universe to actually be in
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charge of everything, and Rex is the one I would
think would be wreck. Actually, Slinky Dog is probably the
least likely, but Rex would be like right behind Slinky Dog. Um.
You know, I just was trying to think of one
that would be the least likely to be the head
of the vampires. I also was very pleased with my
Frog Brothers because Frog is the last name of the
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two brothers in Lost Boys who are obsessed with vampires
and become vampire hunters as the movie progresses. Yes, if this,
if this were a championship, I would give you the belt.
I mean, it's all about working in the references. This
was this was a fun one. I honestly, as I
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started off, I wasn't sure I was gonna be able
to do it. That which frequently the way I feel
when I start these things. But um, you know, once
agat into a groove, I felt like it went pretty well.
But that's just my version, and that was arials version.
If you have a version of how you would mash
up Lost Boys and toy story and maybe you have
Lost Boys story who knows, which sounds like it would
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be a very sad movie, you can send it to us.
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that's it until next time. I have been Ariel blah
blah Caston, and I have been Jonathan. I'm just gonna
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get spook here from here on out Strickland. The Large
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