The Physical Challenges of DevilDare

A slip of the tongue creates a mash up we didn't know we needed until today. We chat about what we've been watching, what we will be watching later this year, and what we think we're going to give a pass on. Lookin' at you, Gunslingers.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Charge on Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always,
is the Fantastical Friday. Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I hate people.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
You said you weren't going to include that in the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I lie, yeah, Before we started recording, I was being
a right old curmudgeon, and then I said, you know what,
we probably shouldn't record this part. We hadn't started recording yet.
I was like, we probably should be glad we don't
have this in here. And then I was like, you
know what, whatever, I'm going to include it. This is
not This is not people in particular. Honestly, It's just

(00:54):
that my capacity to handle interactions online is an all
time low. It's just that's how it is. It has
nothing to do with the people out there who are awesome.
They're fantastic. I appreciate all of you, Yeah, all of
you out there, I really appreciate you. My mental health
has just reached a point where, like online interactions, I

(01:16):
just find them like uniformly toxic. It doesn't matter how
positive they are. It just I don't know. It doesn't
work for me anymore. And Ariel can tell you, like,
I don't have a Facebook account anymore, I don't have
Instagram anymore. I'm not on TikTok, I'm not on Twitter.
The only thing I'm on this blue sky, and I'm

(01:38):
almost never there.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'll say, I've got to slide legit into your DMS
if I want to contact you.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't make it easy. It is not
easy to get in touch with me. And I try
to limit it just to the people that I'm really
you know, close with, like friends and family and such.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I do share the fun stuff that you guys share.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
With us, which yes, and then and then I say,
that's very nice. I still hate people, but not you,
not you, not you up there. I don't hate you.
You just I just can't take it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Social media is hard right now, and COVID made it harder.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I feel like, yeah, no, I think. I think when
we were all forced to rely almost solely on social
networks in order to stay in touch with each other,
that kind of cemented things. And also you got to
keep in mind, you know, this should be my therapy
session but that that before COVID, I considered myself an extrovert, right, Like,

(02:44):
I am an outgoing person. You all know, I'm a
chatty kathy, Like you just have to listen to one
episode to find that out. But you know now I
find it a struggle too urge from my hut in
the woods and talk to people. But at the same time,

(03:07):
I'm not online anymore, so I'm becoming increasingly isolated. So
I'm just letting y'all know that, so that as you listen,
you can track my decline.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Some of us are some of us work on that
occasionally here and there, like it is a muscle I eat.
So I'm an extroverted introvert. I'm uncomfortable in social situations,
but I do a lot of them. And things have

(03:37):
been picking up, like in regular life in the acting world,
and you know, all the stories that you hear and
everything else. And like I used to be able to
burn the candle at both ends in five places in
the middle and to dip into my therapy session. I
can't do that anymore. My therapist is like, is it
Just like my therapist said that she realized she couldn't

(03:57):
do that because she's getting older, and I said, I
refuse to act that as an excuse, but because I'm
not old yet, not dead yet, but I'm even like
it's struggling. It's a muscle, and my muscles, my social
and commitment muscles, have atrophied, and so I'm trying to

(04:18):
build them back up. But it's exhausting in the meantime.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I was talking with a friend of the show,
shay Lee, who is in an upcoming production of Harvey,
which you know, if you are a fan of Jimmy
Stewart then you might be familiar with the film version
of Harvey. She's doing, obviously the original staged version. And

(04:44):
I was talking to her about how I very much misperforming,
like I love performing, and it's been years since I've honestly,
it's been six years since I've done any like stage
performing type stuff, and part of me thinks that I'm
that part of my life might be done, and that's

(05:06):
really sad for me. It's not necessarily true. It's just
hard for me to imagine taking on the task of
auditioning and then if I land apart learning all the lines,
going to all the rehearsals, like it's a huge commitment
in a life where increasingly I have less and less

(05:28):
spare time, and it's just hard for me to imagine
doing it. And that's that's what I'm currently struggling with.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I mean, I think I feel like everybody struggles
with that to some degree. I always found that when
I was doing theater, because now I focus primarily on film,
but when I was doing theater in a couple of times,
I've jumped into it since then, like you might be like,
i gotta go to rehearsal and I'm going to miss
hanging out with this person or this TV show or whatever,

(05:56):
although missing a TV show is a lot less of
a thing more, but I always found the experience of
being there and being a part of that telling that
story rewarding enough by the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So it also like depending on the people you work with,
you know, you develop those incredibly close bonds like you
have show family, and that show family can be a
really powerful thing. And I think for a lot of
us there are certain years at the Georgia Renaissance Festival

(06:33):
where that show family that became like our core group
of friends who some of whom are still to this
day like close friends. That experience is one that can
really fuel you. Even if you're in a show that
maybe you personally feel wasn't that good. Sometimes the relationships

(06:53):
you have with your show family end up being more
important than that.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah. Yeah, speaking of this past weekend, I went out
to Marietta the gathering, which is a little outdoor like
Craft Fair, tiny dragon Con. They have cosplay contests. They
had some random people standing on stage playing D and
D with like a kid rolling the giant D twenty
on the ground for them. They had like giant TV
screens with Mario Kart that you could sit outside and play,

(07:19):
and contests of like creator stuff, and then a whole
bunch of boots and cosplay and stuff like that. It
was a lot of fun. I saw several people I
know from Garf and Slash Dragon Con vending there, so
that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's cool. I didn't even know that was a thing.
But then also like, it's pretty far away for you.
We haven't We didn't record an episode when I got back,
did we.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
No, we took the week off.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So yeah, the last time I was between the last
time we recorded and this time, I flew to Doha, Qatar,
to attend the Web Summit and and so like, I
feel like I'm missed out on some stuff because I
was out of the country for several days. Had I

(08:09):
known about the Marietta thing, I probably would have loved
to have checked that out.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I honestly it was. It was last Saturday, and I
was like, what do I want to do for lunch?
Is there anything I want to do today? And it
just popped into my head. I'm like, oh, is this
this weekend? And I checked. So I will try to
be more on top of it next year for you,
so I can give you a heads up if it's happening.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I appreciate it. Yeah, Like this year probably wouldn't have
worked out because I was back in town Saturday, but
I my body was back in town. I don't think
my internal clock got back in town until like yesterday.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, but like, oh Christmas geek, Molly's Oh Christmas geek.
She was there, Cap was there, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
so and a couple other people.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah folks, y'all don't know. But I love that we're
just using this to catch up with each other. It's
our now.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
But here's the thing. I if you are local or
if you're not and you have something like this in
your area, I highly recommend it because it's it's kind
of fun like dragon Con, but it's a lot more chill.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah. It actually reminds me of the convention circuit the
days before things like dragon Con, and there used to
be a convention called magnum Opus Con before those conventions
got really huge and rowdy. Magnam Opis Cohn was more
of a party con. Dragon Con is kind of a
party con. Magnum Opis Con was like, hold my beer
kind of party con. But it makes me think of

(09:36):
those days before when the conventions were a bit smaller.
Often they were more focused, like they'd be focused on
a specific property, maybe it's a bit Doctor Who or
Star Trek, something like that. And part of me misses
those days because the community was smaller and more tightly knit,

(09:57):
and largely that was because science fiction, fantasy, horror, these
genres were not really mainstream the way they are today.
And that's not an old man saying things used to
be better. They were just different, and some of those
differences were cool because you could have these more meaningful,
I feel connections with people. But it's also cool to

(10:20):
go to something like a Dragon Con or a San
Diego Comic Con, where you are in a sea of
humanity of people who absolutely love the heck out of something.
There's something really special about that too. So I don't
want to say that one is superior to the other.
They're different. You'll get different things out of them. But
it is definitely worth exploring.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
One of the most popular activities there because there were
a few, like there was a giant, life sized hartest
that made noises that you could take a picture with,
you know, like I said, the games and the contests
and things like that. Gaming area there was a whole
bunch of gaming area too. Was there was a larp
group and I don't remember which one because it's not
when I'm familiar with who set up like a little
sparring ring and was like fight our night, and so

(11:06):
they'd give the kids Boffer weapons and the kids would
go in and have a sparring match with the night. Yeah. Well,
I mean they were usually trying to be pretty tactical
because you know the thought of like fighting a night
and they'd hit him in the le like oh you
got my leg, and you'd go down on one knee,
which is you know, kind of a hit location game,
which are the kind of games I play. But what
a great idea not to get kids into LARPing. But yeah,

(11:30):
if I were a kid and I was like, oh,
give me a sword and fight a night, one hundred
percent so smart.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, now it makes me think of a Renaissance festival
type event I went to when I was a kid.
It was really small, one of those very small ones,
but they had like a an archery area where you
were using buffer archery arrows, which were I mean, these
were in the old days where it was essentially like

(11:56):
a tennis ball on the end of a dowel rod
and you were firing at people in armor. But I
got into trouble because I kept hitting this one guy
in the the nethers, which I swear I wasn't aiming for,
but it was like it was like his cod piece
had a magnet in it and that the arrows were
made out of the other part part of the magnet.

(12:21):
Because I was like, I swear, I'm not aiming, like
it's a heavy arrow, I'm aiming for his torso it's
going down.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm sorry, Yeah, you do have to correct. So back
when I played Kingskate. I took up archery, and you
just had a bow and then you would you'd have
basically a real arrow shaft with a quarter on the
end of it and then thee the close open cell
foam around it, and yeah, you really have to correct
for the extra weight on the front of that arrow.

(12:50):
And even still, I have a very good friend who
also played that game. He was also a really good archer.
Always if there was an arrow being shot, he was
getting hit in the car.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's just it's it's the way of things. It's just
what you have to do. Well, speaking speaking of stuff that
we've done since the last time we recorded, we like
to talk about things we've watched, and as it turns out,
both of us have watched a good deal of stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, so I'll go I'll go through mine pretty quickly
because a lot of it's not super new. Drop Out
had a new season of Smarty Pants come out, and
I watched the first one of that. I learned my
husband's a monster. I love them. Still watching BSG, still
watching White Lotus. I'm a little bit behind. So far,

(13:38):
they haven't done the thing that's going to trigger me
to go nope and leave I finished Pop Culture Jeopardy.
I like the team that won. I watched the Oscars.
It was pretty low key, which wasn't necessarily bad, but
Pixar didn't win Best Animated Film for once, so that
was cool. And I watched several and man, what an episode.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, tonight's episode episode seven, I think it.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Was maybe maybe we might be up to the last
episode this week.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, so we we haven't seen the one that as usual,
we haven't watched the one that goes live today because
we're working. But yeah, I also caught up on that.
It was. It was a hum dinger of an episode.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah. It it didn't hit any of my X, but
it hit some very like emotionally sensitive places for me.
I was kind of surprised, not angry, but surprised.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I was also like genuinely impressed in a way it
was taking me out of the show, but also I
was genuinely impressed with the cinematography of that episode. Like
there's some really creative choices and some incredibly difficult shots
that were done, like real shots, not they didn't fudge

(14:57):
with CGI or anything. Yeah, were really technically hard to do,
and I was extremely impressed from a technical perspective, even though,
like I said, it kind of took me out a
little bit because if I'm like, if I realize I'm saying, wow,
that's a great shot, I'm no longer thinking I'm seeing
a story. I'm thinking I'm watching a television production. Yeah,

(15:19):
it's subtle, but it does happen well.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
And then and then this episode dropped such a hint
on stuff that's happening a couple of them, but not
enough to actually figure out what's going on that. Yeah,
I mean I was also trying to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
We're all pretty sure that kir is actually a goat.
That's really what it seems to be.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Now, it's it's a really just keefer and they forgot
the fat.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But you also watched the first couple of episodes of
a new series on Disney Plus, as I.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Understand, Yeah, Devil Dare Double ol.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Dare Devil Dare where kids get together, they blind the
kid kids, and then they compete in various physical challenges.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, so over the over the week, I think on Tuesday,
Daredevil Born Again the first two episodes dropped and I
watched those. I was a fan of the Netflix show,
and it felt like the Netflix show. I mean it
didn't feel rehashy it. My husband is debating even whether
it's in the same universe, though.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I would wager that it is. I don't know. I haven't.
Did you watch all there were three seasons of Daredevil.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I did. I didn't like the later seasons, but I
want to say I watched only the first two.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I don't think I ever. Did the third one come
out after the Defenders or after?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I don't remember. I think it came out before, before
or during. I've watched all of Daredevil. The only thing
that I have not finished watching out of all of
the Netflix Defender stuff, which is for those who don't
know Daredevil and Jessica Jones and Luke Cage not Nick
Cage and Iron Fist.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
And which I almost called iron Claw.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, the only thing that I oh, and I guess Punisher.
I only watched the first season of Punisher.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, I haven't. I'm way way behind because I've only
watched I saw the first two seasons of Daredevil, and
I saw the first season of Jessica Jones, so I
didn't see any of the rest. Like I didn't watch,
I didn't. I didn't get through a full season of
Luke Cage. I liked what I saw, I just dropped
off of it. It was in the first season. I

(17:36):
didn't ever watch any of Iron Fists. I haven't seen
the Defenders. I haven't seen any of The Punisher other
than like his appearances in Daredevil. Yeah. So like as
much as I really liked that first season of Daredevil,
I was a bad fan and that I didn't follow
any of the restless stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
It was it was the TV that my husband and
I could agree on watching together for a bit because
I liked so much. This is not a dig on
him at all. I like so many different genres and
shows that it is impossible to like all the same
things as me. On the other hand, Tony is a

(18:19):
lot less affected by some things that I have a
harder time watching, so a lot of times he'll go
down and watch a show without me, or I'll watch
a show without him. But this was something we could
agree on together. We've gotten we found a lot more
commonality in our TV show watching stuff, but there's still
plenty of stuff that I like that he does and
vice versa normal right, the only I think everything was

(18:42):
better in its first season, Every single show exception of
Iron Fist. Iron Fist for me was kind of a
dud of a show. Didn't really care for the lead either. However,
the final scene of I think it was season two,
I don't know if it got three seasons. The final

(19:02):
scene of the final season of Iron Fist finally did
something where I'm like, if that was the story, I
would be in because it's hilarious and so, you know,
we talked about I think the last the last show
we did two weeks ago, that they might be bringing
the Defenders back. They better pick up from that spot

(19:24):
in Iron Fist if it is in fact in the
same universe as a prime Marvel Universe DCU MCU, because
otherwise me But back to Daredevil, it was good. It
was interesting. It's we know from the trailers that it's
Matt Murdoch has kind of given up the mask, and

(19:46):
also Kingpin Wilson Fisk kind of gets elected to be mayor.
So you know, for some people, maybe a little bit
close to current events, but not not a one for one,
it's not they didn't. This show was made, you know,
months years ago, so very well done, very well acted,

(20:08):
a little slow, but that's all I can talk about
because they don't want to ruin anything.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, because I still I have not watched Daredevil yet,
and it's not through lack of interest. I actually really
want to watch it. It's just that this week has
been very busy for both me and my partner Becca.
She you know, she's she's had a lot of late
nights at work, so by the time she gets back
with me trying to get back into the swing of

(20:35):
the Eastern time zone, they're just there was no way
to watch an episode. It was too late, right, Like, Yeah,
so we're hoping we can maybe check it out tonight,
but we'll see. It's okay for me to jump in
with the stuff I've watched.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh yeah, I said I was going to be quick
and then I absolutely was not, so please.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, I also watched Severance, as we've already talked about,
I started. I watched a couple more episodes of High Potential.
I've talked about that one I think two weeks ago.
But I also watched a bunch of stuff that has
been out for a long time, but I had not
dipped my toe in, So I watched the first I

(21:19):
got through the first full season of Mythic Quest, and
I'm now into season two. That's the Rob mcalhany series
that follows a company that's in the computer game business.
They make an MMO called Mythic Quest, and it's very silly.
It's very much a send up of the video game

(21:41):
industry and all the stuff that surrounds the video game industry,
including like streamers and that kind of stuff. That being said,
they've also included a couple of episodes that are sort
of tangentially related to the main storyline, but only like
one of them in the first one called Dark Quiet Death,

(22:04):
is barely connected to the main story at all, and
yet it's one of the best. It's my favorite episode
from season one, and I like the show, but that
episode in particular was really powerful, a strength, particularly emotional,
kind of tragic, interesting, well worth watching. Like I don't

(22:26):
put it as high up as a long long time
from the Last of Us. That episode, I think is
still the best episode of TV I've ever seen. This
is not that good, but it's approaching that for me.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
But don't you don't expect that from a show like
Mythic Quest, which is largely dark comedy.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right, Yeah, And there's still quite a bit of comedy
in a dark, quiet death, but it's it's tinged with
a lot of sadness. If you're an empathetic person like me,
it's gonna hit you hard. And also if you care
deeply about things like creative passion and control over your

(23:10):
your creative endeavors, if you care about that kind of stuff,
it'll hit you hard because it's really it's all about
the balance you have to take between pursuing your creative
vision and making concessions in order for that to be
a reality, right, Like, ultimately it comes down the balance
between art and commerce, which is an incredibly we'll talk

(23:32):
about that more in this episode, but that's an incredibly
challenging thing to do, Like how do you balance out
the desire to create art versus the need to cater
to commerce in order to make that a possibility? And
sometimes you make the wrong choice and you don't know
it's the wrong choice until after you've made the decision

(23:54):
and then it's too late. That's kind of what A
dark quiet Death is ultimately all about. And they did
a really good job handling it, especially considering that it's
you know, that's short form TV. It's not like they
had a full hour to tell that story, so highly recommend,
even if you just watched that episode, because you can
watch it outside the context of the rest of the show,

(24:17):
because it really doesn't cross over into that very much.
Highly recommended. I watched a bit more of Harley Quinn
the animated series. I got through the first season. I'm
into season two. I'm enjoying that. I started watching Resident Alien,
the Allan Tutick series.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
What do you think about that one?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I like it, actually I do. What do you not
like it? No?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So like in the first season, I think in like
the first couple of episodes, the alien is doing the
thing where like this puckered in this puckered and this
part was left unaffected, and I thought it was a
bad attempt at a crash joke that was not creative
and landed poorly with me. And that kind of like

(25:04):
felt from there on. The humor kind of felt.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
That way across the board. I can see what you're saying,
Like I think of it. I think of it as
a slightly less zany take than say Third Rock from
the Sun, where the idea is that there's this alien
life for him, that is, in this case, he was

(25:28):
not sent to Earth to study humans that's not the purpose.
He's forced to be a human because his mission is
to actually wipe out humanity, but his ship crashes before
he's able to deploy his weapon, and so he's posing
as a human while he's still intent, at least in
the first season, he's still intent to carry out his mission,

(25:50):
and so his observations are things that he wasn't expecting
at all, Right, Like he was never intending to pose
as a human being, just has to in order to
try and complete his mission. And yeah, I get that,
Like there's some of that crassness, but Alan Tudick's performance
is still really entertaining, and I actually really like the

(26:14):
ensemble cast a lot. I think everyone is doing a
pretty darn good job on that show. It is a
little weird because all the humans are pretty quick to
dismiss how weird Alan Tudick's character is. They accept it
way easier than you think a normal human actually would.

(26:35):
That's a little weird.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, So I think I think part of the problem
for me, And I've watched a season and a half
of it, maybe a full two seasons, I don't know,
but so I've got I watched the entire first season
and a good part of the second season because I
had a bunch of friends who liked it. I'm like, Okay, well,
maybe maybe it'll grow on me. I made a friend
watch ten episodes of Lost once to try to get

(26:57):
it to grow on them. They quit just at the
point where it got good. But you couldn't skip those
first time. But the cast is great. I think their
acting is good, and I like their chemistry together. Again,
you said some of them are quick to dismiss how
weird things are. It's a writing thing for me. It
just doesn't quite hit. But I think part of the

(27:18):
problem is I was also I also started watching it
at the same time I was watching Doom Patrol, another
thing that Alan Judic was in, because he's in everything
because he's a very talented and lucky guy. And so
it was like, I'm watching Doom Patrol and that humor
very much hit for me, and so it just didn't
quite compare.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Sure, yeah, I can see that, Like, I'm finding it
entertaining enough to stick with it. Right. It hasn't become
one of my favorite shows, but it's one where I'm like,
I'll keep watching this. On top of that, I watched
the movie Wolf's while I was on my flight to Qatar.
No wait, that was coming back from Katar?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Is that the French one?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
No Wolf's is a film on Apple TV Plus. It's
got Brad Pitt and George Clooney and they're both playing fixers.
So like the Wolf, the wolf from pulp fiction, right,
they're the they're the guy you call it. You've never
seen pulp fiction.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I've seen like five minutes and I fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean, we'll have to watch it sometime. It's you know,
it's it's it's an important movie in pop culture frame.
But anyway, the wolf is who you would call if
let's say that you know you unexpectedly murdered somebody and
now you need to clear up all the evidence so
that the police don't figure out that you you unalived

(28:43):
a person. You call the wolf, and the wolf comes
in and knows how to clean a scene so that
you know there's no evidence left behind. That's essentially Brad
Pitt and George Clooney both play characters who do this.
They are unaware of one another. At the beginning of
the movie. They both believe themselves to be the best

(29:03):
at what they do and that no one else can
do what they do, so's there's a lot of like
conflict when they come into contact with one another because
they both kind of have this chip on their shoulder
of being really good at it and they can't believe
anyone else could be as good as they are, and
yet they both are forced to work together to deal

(29:25):
with the aftermath of a scene in a hotel room.
That's all I'll say, because it's worth watching. It's entertaining.
It's not like the best film I've ever seen or anything.
It's largely carried by the performances of Pitt and Clooney.
But it is fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think I remember us talking about that trailer when
it came out. Is it more entertaining or less entertaining
than The Gorge?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I'd say it's more entertaining than The Gorge.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I thought the Gorge was fine. This is better than fine.
Would put it as good, uh, And that the parts
that are really really fun are because of Pitt and
Clooney and their chemistry. They're just they're great together, and
of course they've worked together before multiple times. So yeah,

(30:16):
I recommend checking it out if you're just looking for
something to watch. Oh, and I also watched the first
couple of episodes of Reacher season three, or as I
like to call it, Toxic Masculinity, the series, which I'm
just really watching at this point to see one man

(30:37):
meat mountain fight another man meat mountain. It just hasn't
happened yet, but you can tell it's going to.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You need protein in your diet, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah that they're this, Just watching this will give you
an excess of protein. So can't recommend it really because
I find it. I don't know. I find it to
be a little too juvenile, power fantasy ish for me,
but I don't know. I'm still watching it. I have

(31:07):
no I have no good excuse.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you don't. You don't need an
excuse to watch things.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
John Maybe not. I can't justify it though, Okay, but anyway, Yeah,
that's that's what I'm watching. And now we are half
an hour into this episode.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, I mean you said we were really just using
it to catch up, but I mean it's all geeky stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah. We also we really whittled down a lot of stuff,
Like we had our lineup was about twice as long
as it is right now. But then we were like,
we made some decisions some stuff we felt was kind
of on the cusp as far as whether or not
it's really geeky some stuff. It was like, this is
a final trailer, but it's a trailer for something we've

(31:54):
already talked about the earlier trailers, and not enough has
changed for us to keep it in here. So y'all
are getting the cream of the crop, which is why
we're dithering around so much in the front half.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, I will say, like I am anticipatory for the
things that I'm going to watch this week to talk
about next week.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
So yeah, yeah, so that's also going to be it.
We're going to be probably much more animated, perhaps even
literally next week.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh wait, literally animated.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, who knows. Okay, we've got fans out there, they
might animate something.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh that's true.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I was. I don't have any actual plans. I'm not
I haven't been cast as a voice actor in anything
that was not me. That was not me coyly suggesting that, hey,
you should check out Harley Quinn season six.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I wouldn't put it past you, though, but I would
be mad that I didn't know before our listeners.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You would also be mad if you had found out
that I got cast in something and like your agent
didn't bring you up the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I mean, so, yes, there was one character in Darreed
Nevil that I'm like, I could have auditioned for that,
but it's fine. The person playing the character is delightful
and I like them a lot. And I am still
new and I'm getting my agent. My agent kicks butt.
I have had an over abundance of blessings of auditions

(33:18):
this year. Yeah, so I'm grateful for every single one. Yeah,
I'm grateful for a really goofy, funny one that was fun,
So thank you, I am. And I've got another one.
I've got a film tomorrow, So I am incredibly grateful.
I don't think my agent listens to this podcast, but
if he does, you're awesome.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I just like giky things so well. No, yeah, And
my comment was more about like, if I landed a
gig and you didn't know about it, and you didn't
even know the gig was a thing, that would be
that would that would that would feel bad to you? Right?
Like I would not I would not do that if I,
if I had the opportunity, I'd be like, hey, Ariel,
I got this crazy, you know, ask and did you

(34:04):
even know about it? I wouldn't spring it on you
on the show, though.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
That would be funny, Yeah, for sure, I mean it
would be funny. I would be mad, but not like
real mad mad. Sure, yeah, not green mad, because that's cool. Okay,
So I guess it's time for thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
All right, let's let's do this. I believe you will
start us off.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I do. And it just really shouldn't even belong in
thirty seconds or less because I don't want to diminish
someone's passing. George Low passed away. He is the voice
of space Ghost. As the voice of space Ghost, you know,
a big big in the geek community. I know a
lot of friends that have worked with him that really
loved him. I've even had good experience of experiences with

(34:50):
him back when I worked information services at Dragon Con.
He brought us doughnuts and asked us who our daddy was,
which was hilarious. It wasn't in a creepy way. It
was in a fair very fun cute way. But he
was always very nice. The few times that I've been
able to interact with him, he was only sixty seven.
So it's very sad to hear about.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, yeah, very prolific voice actor, So yeah, sad to
hear that. Well. On Entertainment tonight, the Russo Brothers talked
about their upcoming Avengers movies for Marvel. They revealed that
Robert Downey Jr. Is taking his role as Doctor Doom
very seriously, apparently going so far as to craft a

(35:29):
deep backstory for his character. It's nice to know that
the actors are sometimes putting in more thought behind their
characters than the studio does sometimes.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Next more Marvel news, Daredevil obviously hasn't dropped its whole
first new season, but we already had news about season two.
I guess you know skip thirty seconds ahead if you
don't want anything about anything. We have learned that the
actress who plays Karen Page will be in season two.
That's all. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Cool. Well, as millennials quiver with excitement over the thought
of another film in the Shrek series being on the way,
one gen z actor is getting ready to call the
big Green Ogre Daddy. That would be Zendaya, who will
be voicing Shrek's daughter in the upcoming film so far,
we don't really have any details as to what the
plot is going to be, but Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy,

(36:24):
and Cameron Diaz are all slated to return way to make.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Shrek creepier than Darty was.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I was so proud of the title I made in
our lineup, whereas like Ariel's gonna hate this yep.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
In twenty twenty, we got news that Tiana from Princess,
which is a movie I've only seen half of. I
need to sit down.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
And watch it.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Along with the ampersion of group stuff anyhow, was going
to get a TV show on Disney Plus. While that
got pushed back and push back and push back, and
then the other show that it was slated to go with,
the Malana Show, got turned into a movie. And so
now the show has been turned into something that's going
to be more of like a short form format, whatever

(37:14):
that means. And we don't know when that's coming out.
It's not completely gone, but it's dwindling.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, don't be surprised if this ultimately dies on the vine,
which would be a shame but is a possibility. Well.
John Francis Day and Jonathan Goldstein are screenwriters known for
working on Dunges and Dragons, honor among thieves, as well
as a project called Game Night. Now they are hoping
to avoid jail by taking a chance opening a different

(37:44):
kind of community chest. By that, I mean they've been
tapped to write a film based off the board game Monopoly.
Hopefully this turns out to be more like Clue and
less like Battleship.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
David Arquette, who like Dewey and Scream one through Cinema,
will be back for Scream seven.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I've only seen through Scream three. The third was my favorite.
I know that's can like it say yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Apparently Dewey dies in one of the screams, so we
don't know he's gonna be back.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah. I was actually curious about that. I have not
seen all the screen movies, but it was my understanding
that that character had perished. He almost always gets real
messed up, like stabbed a whole bunch, and then comes
back the next next fell being a bit more limpy
than he was before. So I am curious to see

(38:48):
how this works out well. Employees who are working in
production management at Walt Disney Animation Studios have successfully ratified
their first union contract with the studio, according to Variety,
and it sounds like it was pretty much needed. Production
managers are going to see a twenty four percent raise,
Production supervisors will get a twenty nine percent bump, and

(39:12):
production coordinators will get a thirty five percent pay rise. Solidarity, whoop.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
The last I think this is the last one. This
is the last one. I don't know how I'd feel
about this if I were an actor. But Jim Carrey's
highest grossing movie of all time is now Sonic the
Hedgehog three above Bruce Almighty and The Truman Show and
Man in the Moon, which was great. It has come

(39:42):
in with a total of four hundred and eighty five
point seven million dollars so far. On the one hand,
I would if I don't know how Jim Carrey feels
about it. If it were me, I'd be like, I
wish these other things that meant that were like more
poignant did better. But on the other hand, yay, I'm
in a successful movie.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't know. Well, let me put to you this way, Ariel.
You know what's different between the money that he got
from Sonic versus the money he got from Man on
the Moon. What nothing? It all spends just the same. Okay, okay, yeah,
the money it's all the same. I mean, I guess

(40:20):
from an artistic level you could get there, but from
a business level, you're like, you know what pays for
another yacht?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean true, because I think he had retired and
then came out of retirement to do it because yazah,
I need the money.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Uh yeah, Well, let's talk about some of the trailers
and stuff we got. And first up, we got a
trailer for the second season of and Or. I still
have not watched season one, but I will say the
trailer for season two one it looks tense as heck.
It also looks real slick, like super high production value,

(40:59):
like on the level of one of the Star Wars movies,
which you know, as much as I like Mandalorian, I
felt that that was maybe a half step below the
Star Wars like film production value. This looks like it's
on the same level. Like it actually looks better to
me than Rogue one Dead. So I was really impressed

(41:21):
by the production stuff. And I mean, like, the trailer
is really intense. It is odd to have a modern
song playing against a Star Wars trailer that kind of
threw me out of things. But other than that, I
thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, I still need to watch the latest Star Wars show,
the one about that's essentially the Goonies. I watched the
first episode and enjoyed it, and then got distracted by
a million other things. I have watched some of V
and Or season one. I'm slowly getting through it, like
ten minutes twenty minutes at a time, and then I'll
realize that I've been playing on my phone the entire

(42:01):
episode and have to go back and watch it again.
It is getting better the later it goes on. I
just found the pacing too slow, and I like a
good noir, but I found the pacing too slow, and
there wasn't enough to make me care about the situation
the characters were in at the start. It also had

(42:21):
some issues with like Boba fet with like going back
and forth with flashbacks, which wouldn't have been a problem
if I hadn't kind of gotten singed by it from
Bubba fet.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, but it is getting better. It is tense. Can
I give you a synopsis of what's happening? No? Season
two looks good, though I will say that it didn't
feel as tense. The trailer didn't feel as tense to
me as maybe it did to you, I would wager,
but it looks very good, and you're right. The production
value is very high, and I think that the trailer
does something fixes something that I have been struggling with

(42:58):
in Star Wars a little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Which is.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I want to see Star Wars stories that are outside.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Of the Skywalkers. The Skywalkers.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, so I'm happy for all of those, and especially
the ones that aren't prequels though, and ors a prequel,
but but it's a prequel to a prequel, but it's
Star Wars. The newer stuff, I feel like has been

(43:29):
putting in a lot of like modern slick industrial feelings,
stuff that we had some of it in the original series,
more of it in the three prequels, and then some
I guess some more of it in the latest trilogy
of Star Wars. But it is always felt disjointed to me.

(43:51):
So it feels like I'm stepping from a Star Wars
world to mass effect to suburbia, and and getting all
of those tones to fit together hasn't been something that
I felt like Star Wars has done super well, even
though I fully accept that they all exist in this
universe long ago and far away, but this trailer does

(44:14):
it really well.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, No, it is tough because the original trilogy set
so much of the tone, and it's set in an
outer rim environment, right, Like all the planets that we
see in the original trilogy are supposed to be on
the outskirts of the Empire, so that can explain away.
Oh yeah, it's a worn down sector, like everything. All

(44:37):
the ships are old and you know, like the Millennium
Falcon is kind of a patchwork, and the X wings
and stuff all look like they've been hobbled together by
a rebellion, because that's what's supposed to be. But we
never really saw the other worlds where things were more slick,
so those felt more out of place, especially for me,

(44:58):
like in the prequels, where everything felt new and like
fresh out of the box, and that was kind of
odd compared to the first trilogy. But it is fair
to say that all these things can coexist in the
same universe. It just felt weird because we never saw
any of that. Other than the fact that the Empire
ships looked fairly new and pristine. We didn't really see

(45:19):
any of that in the original trilogy, so it fell
out of place. I guess this series for me would
probably have the same problem that all prequels have for me,
which is that you know what's going to happen, Like
you know what the ultimate ending is for these characters,
like we've already seen that, so they can't be put

(45:39):
in any situation where you don't know if they're going
to make it out because you know how their story
ends already, And that does make it a bit of
a challenge. But it looks like it's well made, so
that at least I'm very excited about. Don't know, maybe
it'll be enough for me to watch it, because like
I'm so burnt out on Star Wars. It's like I

(46:00):
still haven't seen Mandalorian season three, let alone any like
I haven't seen Osaka or whatever her name is, Ahsoka.
I haven't seen any of her stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I'm much further behind in all of my Star Wars.
And I was excited about like the Accolade, and I
haven't gotten.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
To that either. I haven't watched that either.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
That falls into the place of Tony was super into
The Mandalorian with me and Boba Fett kind of and
and or both kind of hit us as like, so
getting him to watch New Star Wars with me is
a little bit more of a challenge, and then I
have to find time to watch it by myself.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah. Well, as far behind as I am with Star Wars,
it's nothing, nothing like how far behind I am with
Doctor Who. But we did get a trailer for what
they are now calling season two of Doctor Who, because
screw you, that's why.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
It's season two. So I think it's because cheety Gatwa
Doctor has been on Disney Plus. So Disney kind of
is now the forerunner, at least in the US for
Doctor Who. I don't remember if it's also in the UK.
I think it's still a BBC thing over there. But

(47:17):
you know, in the UK they call it series and
over here they call it seasons. So technically I guess
it's the first seed. It is the second season of
gott was Doctor, so it's kind of correct.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, it's just so confusing because if you're talking about
seasons the way you would in a sane person, thirty
nine right, like, like, how do you because we already
renumbered the seasons with Eccleston's Doctor right like that was
kind of seen as a full reboot, even though it

(47:52):
was a continuation, like he was not the first doctor,
he was like the eighth or ninth, ninth I think. So. Yeah,
just very confusing for people like me who just if
you're trying to tell me about something that's happened in
the Doctor Who, continue and first of all, don't bother.
I'm not interested enough and it's going to take you

(48:12):
way too long to try and do it in a
way that even makes sense to me. But secondly, this
numbering system makes it even worse.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
It does actually make it harder to find on Disney
Plus Disney Plus if you're listening, it is confusing to
find new episodes of this series of Doctor Who. I
would say that you could start with Shooty. There's a
couple of characters that they introduced earlier on you know,
and of course there's a bunch of backstory you miss,

(48:42):
But you could start with this doctor's story if you
had interest. Not saying that you do that being said,
even though he's not my favorite doctor, this trailer looks
really good.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
It does. It looks high in our it looks exciting. Again.
Production values I think are probably the highest they've ever
been for Doctor Who. I think it's fair to say,
like Doctor Who has something of an infamous reputation, especially
in the early seasons, of being adorably low budget, like

(49:19):
they're telling great stories with great actors with no money,
and sometimes that is evident on screen to a point
where it's almost comedic. And then once the reboot happened,
they got you a pretty big boost in budget, but still,
you know, not like crazy high budget, just better, right,

(49:45):
And then this most recent one looks like to me,
at least, it might be the most money that's ever
been poured into Doctor Who.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, I will say not. They weren't always telling great stories.
Some episodes of Doctor Who are just crap. They're not crap.
They are not good to me. I'm sure some people
enjoy them, but I'm just like, this is such a
dumb story.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
But this trailer for this season, yeah, very high budget.
It's got some interesting new like things in there that
I'm excited to see how they explore. It doesn't rely
too heavily on past nostalgia either. There might be a
couple of things in there from the past that true

(50:29):
Doctor Who whites are going to be like, oh that
none of them pinged me. I'm a little bit rusty
on Doctor Who, I will admit, and you know, a
little bit distracted. I've been very busy the past couple
of months. But it looks really good. I'm excited to
see where they go. I immediately like he's going to
have at least partially a new companion this series, and
I love her already.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
So.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I am excited for this. I am more excited for
Doctor Who than I've been in a while.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
That's great. I love hearing I also I love the
shot of the cartoon character emerging all the cinema screen.
That to me was like like peak, it peaked my interest.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I'm more excited about that than anything else I think.
I hope it's a good episode.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I hope that the closest I can compare it to
as far as interest goes. And I haven't watched the
other one, by the way, but it's the episode with
Neil Patrick Harris playing the toymaker or whatever. Like I
was interested in that because of Neil Patrick Harris, and
then it's clips of it. It was like, maybe I
need to check this a little bit.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, you know, Neil Patrick Harris is fun. It is
it was fun in the conclusion, but it relied heavily
on former Doctor Who knowledge, like old school doctor Who.
I'm not even talking about ecleston on. I'm talking about
prior to eccleston knowledge.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yea, that's the character or something. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
He was playing a character that showed up a long
time ago and kind of referring to things that even
I had to remind myself what they were. So it
was fun, but it wasn't amazing.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're like me and you ever
try to rely on something like a wiki to help
get you up to speed, let me just save you
the trouble because if you read any wiki related to
Doctor Who, it's like you're reading something written by a
person who themselves is disjointed out of time because you
can't follow anything.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
You go through like twenty rabbit holes to try to
find your answer, and then you can't find your way back.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, it's a fool's errand don't do it. Also, Ariel
would tell you not to go and see Asterix and
Obelix because she felt it was the worst trailer she's
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Uh, okay, it's at least the worst trailer I've seen.
In a good while, and I will say it's the
worst movie I've ever seen. Children of Men and Sucker
Punch Fight that out.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Children of Men is a great movie.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
It's no it. You know what you are allowed to
enjoy Children of Men. It left me so hopeless that
I questioned why I even watched it. It was just
depressing to me, that's all. And I didn't even think
poignantly depressing, like I The plot was forecast throughout the

(53:22):
entire movie, and then I was left with no hope.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I still feel that your vision of the end of
that movie and mine are fundamentally different than lest.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
It up to interpretations, I understand, I understand.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I'm not saying that you're wrong about it. I'm just
saying it's obviously one hundred and eighty degrees from what
my interpretation.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Which is interesting because usually I'm a little bit more
optimistic than you.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I would say, yeah anyway. So, but besides your wrong
take on Children of Men, you think.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I use their context clues to figure out what the
end meant. There was no hope in the movie. Why
would they give me any of the end? No, So,
the problem with Asterix's abe, as you talked as you
mentioned when we were talking about this not on the
air is that it's this trailer was translated from French,
which means that some of the jokes and the timing

(54:12):
maybe don't hit quite as well. Some of the voice
acting doesn't quite line up with like the mouth the
mouth movements, and that does hurt it. However, the trailer
has a whole bunch of false starts. The trailer is
very long. There's a whole bunch of false starts, and
then there's a bunch of like talking with little to

(54:34):
know like background music to make it feel exciting, and
then they bring in the background music later and it
barely even focuses on on Asterix or Obelix. And I'm
just like, so the end joke is the only one
that maybe in the trailer is the only one that
maybe has a little bit of humored in it to me,
and that one is so out of context that even

(54:56):
it fails, I could just tell that maybe it's clever.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well, and let's clear, okay, So Asterisk and Obelix are
a comic strip, a French comic strip, and it follows
these galls g a U l s who live in
what is now France, in the middle of the Roman Empire,
but they are kind of independent, They're resistant, you know.

(55:20):
And so the story of Asterisk and Obelix is usually
about how these two heroic characters, Asterisk, who is this tiny,
little but incredibly strong or incredibly clever warrior, and his
buddy Obelix, who is not as clever but is like

(55:40):
insanely strong, big old buffoon of a character. They're little
misadventures in this world and a lot of I think
the charm of it is reliant upon the French sense
of humor, which is not the same as American or
English sense of humor. And I've seen a lot of

(56:02):
Asterisk and Obelisk stuff over the years. None of it
has ever worked for me, Like it's just it's not
my thing. Like I've tried multiple times and this is
like dating back to the eighties and it just never
even as a kid, it never worked for me. And
this trailer, I wouldn't say it was worse than any
of that, but it wasn't necessarily better either. The animation

(56:26):
looks like it's, you know, pretty good, but yeah, it does.
It doesn't appeal to me either, I think for people
who are fans of it, they might find more in
this than I would, But yeah it didn't. I didn't
have as strong a negative reaction as Ariel did, but
it didn't interest me either.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah. That's really all I gotta say about it. But
I do have a lot to say about the trailer
for The Bondsman, which is Amazon show that's coming out
next month next month, Wow, starring Kevin Bacon, where he

(57:10):
is a guy who dies and then is brought back
to hunt demons. It reminded Jonathan and I of different shows,
but I think equally in a positive way.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah. So he plays a bail bondsman in life, and
so the whole joke here is that he dies and
then Hell essentially employs him to be a bondsman for Hell,
where his job is to go out and wrangle up
demons that have escaped Hell so that they can be
returned to their rightful place. Now. To me, this reminded

(57:43):
me of a show that came out in the mid
two thousands called Reaper. This was I think on the
CW had Ray Weiss as the devil. The plot of
that was that this young man finds out that his
parents had agreed to hand their firstborn son over to
the Devil in return for well, it doesn't matter, but

(58:08):
they had promised him thinking that they were incapable of
having children. They thought they had pulled one over on
the devil. Turns out they're wrong. Kids born. He grows up,
finds out that he's been promised to the devil, and
what the devil wants him to do is to hunt
down escaped souls from Hell. So similar premise. They're souls,

(58:28):
not demons, but they're all really bad people, that's why
they were sent the hell in the first place. That
was like serial killers and stuff, so kind of similar premise.
But Reaper was more of an overt comedy, whereas The
Bondsman looks like it has just a lot of humor
incorporated into kind of a supernatural procedural. Yeah not quite

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a zany.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah to me, it looks like supernatural, but where the
main character is Bobby, who is the guy who kind
of sent brothers on a bunch of missions for a while,
kind of like their mentor, although that actor is also great.
My new theory is that it's actually Valentine McKee from
Tremors who has taken on an alias, and this is

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and moved away from Tremorland. I've only watched the first
movie and it scared the snookers out of me when
I was little and I watched it, I was I
was only seven when it came out.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I was about to say, like, Tremors scared.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
You, Like, yes, I haven't watched it again since.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh you should. It is a great entertaining monster movie.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
You would also tell me to watch Killer Clowns from
Outer Space, and I did.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Watch that link. Tremor is not good. Trimors will not
scare you. Now you like monster movies, Trimmors will not
scare you. It's not a scary movie. It's an entertaining movie.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Okay, Okay, I will rewatch Tremors. But also, this is
my new theory, is that it's a continuation of that.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah, I think. I think in the realm of scary,
Tremor's ranks below Gremlins. So if you can watch, if
you can watch Gremlins and get through that, okay, you're
fine for Tremors.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I think I'm less worried about being killed by Gremlins
than by sandworms.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Though you don't need to be worried. Listen, we're not
living in Frank Herbert's world. We're fine, We're not going
to be devoured by sandworms.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
The other interesting about Bondsman is I could not get
my husband to watch Supernatural, like he saw enough of
it because I watched it when he was around, but
he never sat down to watch it with me. But
he is interested in watching this new.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
One, so yeah. Well, and a lot of that I
think also falls on the shoulders of Kevin Bacon, who's
just an amazingly charismatic actor. So uh yeah, I think
this looks like it could be really fun to watch,
so it's definitely one of those that I'm interested in
checking out. I certainly feel like I could watch an
episode of The Bondsman and not be left with the

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question of why did I just watch that, as opposed
to say Reacher season three.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah. Also shout out to Beth Grant who is in this,
who's also an incredibly funny actress, so it's ay a
good cast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Next up, we got a trailer for what looks to
be like a low budget kind of thinker sci fi
film called The Silent Planet. The basic high concept premise
is that criminals who have been judged guilty sometimes are
sent to distant planets where they are to serve out

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their sentence in isolation and also do like manual labor,
So think about things like old chain gang kind of stuff,
except it's them solo and they're supposed to be completely
isolated from anyone else. But in the Silent Planet trailer,
we see two convicted felons who encounter one another and

(01:01:53):
then the story progresses from there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yeah, they both think that they're innocent. One of them
is maybe crazy. I will it looks good. The trailer
calls it like hearkening back to old sci fi, old
classic sci fi, which it definitely has that vibe of,
like they went to some desert and ran up and
downhills for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Well, I think it's more about like it's it's more
about ideas than it is about technology.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, it does like it looks interesting to me. It
looks like an interesting story, I will admit though, because
I actually saw this is like the first I saw
a teaser for this, I think one of the weeks
we weren't filming, so we didn't get to talk about it.
When I first saw the teaser, I thought it was
for the CS Lewis film because C. S. Lewis has

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a sci fi trilogy that Hideous Strength, Perlandria and Out
of the Silent Planet. But I was also confused on
why it would be the third one first, because I
always wanted to be Eve in Peralandria, one of my
dream roles if they ever well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I mean, the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe isn't
logically the first of the Narnia books, and yet that's
the one everyone always.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Adapts, which is very true, but it's not. It's a
different story. So I still had my chance at being
in a C. S.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Lewis movie, but you don't have a chance of being
in Miss Austin because that's already been filmed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah I missed Austin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, you totally did Miss Austin. We talked about this previously.
We had an earlier trailer married We had an earlier
trailer for this that we chatted about briefly, and in fact,
I even thought about removing this one from our lineup,
but then I was like, nah, this is actually a
much more comprehensive trailer than what we got before. What

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we got before was more of a teaser, but this
is about Jane, Austen's sister traveling to Jane's home in
order to find and retrieve letters that were sent to
her and that she had written so that no one
else gets hold of them, and also to allow herself

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to reconnect with the sister she has now lost, because
it's after Jane's passing, and it looks like a really
well done period piece. Looks like it's one that's very
reverent toward Jane Austen's work and her relationships with her family.
So if you are a literature geek like I am,

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this I imagine will appeal to that part of your personality.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, they make it seem and this would make sense
that a lot of Jane Austen's stories were kind of
based off of her real life family life, at least
in this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Project they do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
But it looks, it looks delightful, it looks heartwarming. The
person that they've cast as Jane Austen is just so effervescent,
Like I she makes me want to watch her, which
I'm excited about. Similarly, it's not on our lists, but
there's also a trailer that dropped this week called Jane
Austen Wrecked My Life about a relative of Jane Austen,

(01:05:11):
like down the Line more Modern Day. Yeah, so very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
That should be a double feature.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Then well I might make it one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, that would be that would be an interesting thing
to compare one, compare and contrast the two films.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Also, you'll be shocked to hear, dear listener, that we
have another trailer for a woman in the yard to
talk about, and even more shocked to know that I
wasn't the one who put this on our list.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, and I know that Jonathan just said we were
going to take out trailers that we've already talked about.
This one gives us a whole lot more information.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah, before we were just getting like, there's a family,
African American family that has a mysterio woman draped in
black lacy cloth sitting in the yard, and that she's
clearly some sort of ghostly presence. But that was all
we got from the teaser. We got a lot more

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in this trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, And I will say that I added this
because I knew Jonathan was interested in this film. I
actually didn't watch the trailer until today, but it is
a great trailer. You're right, Jonathan. He had mentioned that
it was really good the entire beginning, like thirty seconds
of it, which seems short, but it's really a good
long time sets up the lovingness and everyday life of

(01:06:39):
the family involved, and it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
It also establishes that they have recently suffered a loss
in their family. The father has recently passed away, presumably
from a car accident, and that sets up the fact
that you know, you have this family now that's trying
to heal itself and support one another. And then it

(01:07:04):
introduces the mysterious and supernatural threat of this draped figure
in the yard. It also sets up that this ghostly
presence has a particular ability that I thought was pretty
darn cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yeah, she can control shadows, which is it seems like
maybe her main ability is so like at one point
in the trailer, the family is closing windows because if
there's not light coming through, she can't use the shadows
to get them. I also which it also means it's
much more of like a suspenseful movie than a super
At least a trailer is more suspenseful than super gory.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
There's like a little bit of blood.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Yeah, But it also is interesting to me because in
this trailer, the woman in the yard says that she
has been called and she can't. She is there to help.
She has answered a call for help, and she can't
leave until she's done it. And it definitely seems but
it also makes it feel like there's some sort of

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like twist to it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah. Also, I love that they establish a like call
phrase for the ghost. Today's the day very creepy and
yeah and menacing without it being you know, like just overt.
And as you say, there could be an interesting twist here,

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although the stuff we see in the trailer does certainly
look like she has harmful intent. I'm I'm very excited
about this. I love a good ghost story. I love
films that are I don't believe in ghosts, but I
love ghost stories. And I love a good ghost story

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movie where you know, tension and atmosphere end up playing
an enormous part in getting the story across. This looks
like it's doing that, and I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Yeah. I'm now all of a sudden creeped out because
when you are editing the episode the other week, there
is somebody that whispered and I swear it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Not me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
In the background.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I think I think it was you, And the more
we listened, I think it was you muttering about like
something like come on. Not so we thought that there
was a voice that said Karma and it did not
sound like Ariel, but it was. It was spoken while
I was talking, so it wasn't me and and like

(01:09:35):
I isolated it and it just sounded like Karmel. But
I think it was you saying come on, because it
was when the leaf blower was going on outside.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Okay, okay, So hopefully there aren't ghosts because I would
be super creeped out sitting in this room right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
They are. They're just on aeriel side because it was
on her track, not mine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Yeah, it is. It is interesting to me. I am
interested in this. I'll probably have to do like a
does the Dog Die or Common Sense Media or something
like that beforehand to prepare myself for what I will
be watching.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Although I did survive Hard.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Eyes, you know, which was fun and goofy, but which
is now streaming, Jonathan, if you wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
To watch, Oh, I'll definitely have to check that out,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah, but it is like the first horror movie that
I can at least recall that has made me genuinely
invested in the family involved in the trailer, I'm rooting for.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
A big thing. Yeah, yeah, which is weird also because
we've seen no shortage of trailers that have kind of
a similar concept behind them, Like you know, I'm thinking
of like, what was it Arcadia with Nick Cage or whatever,
or the Tethered one, whatever that one was, but you know,
don't let go. Yeah, it is all those movies that

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were variations on a quiet place. It's really what they were.
But this one, I think I agree with you. It
felt more genuine and relatable to me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Yeah, they really took the time to build the relationship first,
which is great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Unlike the next trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I was about to say, we got to see so
many deep relationships in our next trailer. So our next
one is for a Western called gun Slingers. That the
most notable thing I would say, I think the thing
that ninety nine percent of people who see this trailer
or walk away from is that Nick Cage is being

(01:11:32):
like ultimate Nick Cage at his Nick cagiest in this
trailer where he's playing it looks like a preacher. He's
got smoked glasses that have the lenses are like in
the shape of across the darkened part is in the

(01:11:53):
shape of a cross over each eye. It's kind of
playing like a Western preacher or maybe like a Ormer
Gunslinger now Western preacher character, because supposedly the story is
taking place in a town in the Old West where
every single person in the town is wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
I mean, I'm sure like it's like in prior to
the Caribbean, the Island of Tortuga, where it was kind
of like the Yeah I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Was supposed to be like, yeah, was it Tortuga? I thought, yeah,
I guess it was. It wasn't Port Royal. I don't know,
it's been so long, it's been too like that was
the was that the first It was the first film,
wasn't it. I just I can't keep them straight in
I can't tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
But yeah, this movie's trying so hard to be like
stylized and cool that before we recorded, like earlier this week,
when when we were first chatting about the stuff that
was on our lineup, I compared it to Boondock Saints,

(01:12:56):
a movie that I think of as pure style over substance,
Like that's one of those movies. Yeah, that's one of
those movies where if someone is telling me that that's
one of their favorite movies. My reaction is, I want
to get out of this conversation as soon as I
possibly can, because this is you and I are just
not compatible. I'm not saying that someone who loves Boondock

(01:13:20):
Saints is wrong. I'm saying that I do not see
the world the same way they do, and so I
need to get away. This feels like like, oh, let's
do something as stylized as Boondock Saints, but not make
it look as good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's interesting because got other It's got
Nicholas Cage, Heather Graham, Stephendorf, lots of actors who have
done lots of good stuff. Everybody feels like they're in
one movie, except for Nick Cage, who just feels like
he's in a different movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Also, the trailer doesn't do us any favors because rather
than have a scene play out, even just a short
scene where characters are sharing you know, sequential lines of dialogue,
all we're getting are excerpts of people saying the quote
unquote cool line. So like like there's no scene where

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we're getting like like two people talking about what's happening
or why things are important. Instead, it's like the super
cool ironic line you say, after you just gunned down somebody,
or you're threatening to gun down somebody, and that's it.
Like there's no like, it's all cliche, and I just

(01:14:36):
it did not do anything for me. Maybe that's not
the fault of the movie. Maybe that's just the fault
of the company that cut the trailer, but it does
not give me confidence for the film.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, maybe I really did it because it's another example
of Nick Cage being bonkers. I mean, Western is kind
of one of those geeky things. A lot of times
will include Western, but it's just Nick Cage really committing
to a role and mean not understanding why or what
he's committing to in it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, it does make me wish that Nick Cage had
been in Sam Raimi's film The Quick and the Dead.
That would have been fun. Also, rest in peace Gene Hackman,
because he was in The Quick and the Dead and
was an amazing bad guy in that movie. That. By
the way, if you haven't seen The Quick and the Dead,
that is a bonker's Western.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Oh my gosh, very young Leonardo DiCaprio is in that. Yeah,
it's The Quick in the I don't know that they
can call it a good movie, but it is entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Gotcha, Well, can I say that I still like westerns
if I haven't seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, No, The Quick in the
Dead is such a weird and Bonker's Western, Like, you
could go your whole life watching other types of Westerns
never seeing The Quick and the Dead. It's no, that's
not going to take the shine off of you. Now,
if you had said and you said, yeah, I've never
seen Unforgiven, and I'd be like, oh, well you should that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yeah, I mean I've seen a bunch of really.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Old western Well, Unforgiven is probably the best modern Western
I have seen, also having Gene Hackman as the villain
rest in Peace, Gene Hackman brilliant and Unforgiven great movie.
But anyway, Gun Slingers does not look like it's gonna

(01:16:30):
be anywhere in the same universe as Unforgiven. But maybe
that's just a bad trailer. Will I will withhold judgment,
but maybe don't have confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Yeah, well maybe see, maybe it'll surprise us like Barbie,
I doubt it. The next thing we got was a
trailer that Jonathan found for a new HBO series called
The Parenting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
It's a horror comedy. I included it here because I
see what they're doing, but it's not working for me,
probably because the comedy, I feel is just too brash
and too rude, like I like, I like movies that

(01:17:15):
have blue humor in them if it's done well. And again,
this may be the fault of the trailer, but I
watched this and I'm like, man, none of this is
none of these jokes are landing for me, Like part
of it is reliance on shock humor, and it's hard
to be shocking considering all the types of entertainment we've

(01:17:37):
had over the years, right, Like, it's hard to do
something now that's going to shock you as much as
stuff that was like pop culture five years ago, because
we've really kind of pushed the limit, especially with show
things like on HBO.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
So maybe maybe at that point you find something other
than shocking to do, like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Good right now? Yeah, right right? And of Kudro's in this,
and I feel awful because I'm like, I didn't like
her in Time Bandits, and I don't think i'll like
her in this either.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Apparently she is really good in the one where she's
married No Good Deed. Apparently she's really good in that
one where she's married to Ray Romano and they're trying
to sell the house by the same people who did
the other movie that had Linda Cardelini or the other
shit that had Linda Cardelini in it recently.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
You're not going to get any help from me. But
I remember, I remember No Good Deed. I remember because
that's like the all the different families that are related
to this one piece of real estate, and like their
their stories are sort of independent and sort of intertwined
with each other. From what I understand. I haven't seen it,
so I can't say from catching experience, but yeah, the parenting,

(01:18:52):
it's it's kind of like a demonic possession slash haunting
type of supernatural horror setup. Uh, and then throw in like,
what would happen if you were to combine The Exorcist
with something like American Pie but not as not as
sex raunchy, you know, as American Pie is, but that's

(01:19:14):
sort of kind of brash sense of humor, and then
combine that with the storyline from something like The Exorses
and Ghosts. Oh, the series on well, I think of that.
I think of the BBC version, but okay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I never saw the BBC version.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Oh my gosh, it's so good. Uh, the American one's fine.
I think the British one's better, although your mileage may vary.
I know other people who feel that the British one
the characters aren't as relatable, and I can understand that
a little bit more distant because it's that British approach
to humor. But anyway, yeah, the parenting. I thought this

(01:19:54):
was going to be something to be right up my alley.
I love horror, I love comedy, and I love a
lot of people who are in it. Ryan Cox is
in it, you know, Lisa Coutro is in it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Norris Edie Falco, Parker Posey.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Yeah, there's some great, great people in it. But yeah,
this trailer just did nothing for me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Same same I actually forwarded onto my husband. I was like,
I don't think this is for us, but I'm sharing
it with you anyhow. Yeah, it kind of fell flat
for me, unfortunately, But maybe this will If stuff with
this kind of shock humor falls flat, maybe we'll get
some more creative stuff coming out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
I mean we did. I think we there's no shortage
of really creative work out there too, like some of it.
I think, you know, we've even seen examples of I mean,
our flag means Death leaps to mind, like that was
a series that I couldn't have imagined coming out. Even Ghosts,
the American version of Ghosts, I wouldn't have pecked, because
like the BBC one, I felt was fun, but it

(01:20:54):
was the premise is easily translatable. The execution of the
BBC one is something where I'm like, oh, this wouldn't
work as an American show, But then the American version
takes a slightly different tone than the British one does,
so it works ultimately because they made some good decisions

(01:21:15):
on where to deviate. But yeah, I think we go ahead, No,
you go ahead. I was just gonna say, I don't
think there's any shortage of non raunchy humor out there,
Like even the shows like Mythic Quest, which have elements
of that in it, have plenty of other stuff in
there too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
I get like it's a it's a this happens all
throughout history, you know, Humor changes and boundaries change. But
sometimes I'm like, we don't need to push d envelope.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Further, there needs there needs to be an envelope there
in order to push against. If there's not an envelope,
then what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Yeah? Do we ever get a US version of Space?

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
No? Thank goodness, Space, Space, I think needs to just
exist as it is as a perfect two season show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
I thought you were saying thank goodness because you've soured
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Oh no, I still love Space. I actually just got
the Blu ray set, like literally, my partner gave that
to me as a Valentine's Day gift, And yeah, I
love That's a show that specifically appeals to my generation.
Though that's a very gen X show, not that other
generations can't enjoy it, but gen xers, particularly gen X geeks,

(01:22:33):
like that show is like it's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
It is aged, not spaced, but Coupling has aged about
as well as Friends has to me. But I enjoy
it infinitely more.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yeah, that's fair. We also to end out our segment.
I really thought this was going to be a shorter episode,
but I think that every week and I'm always proven wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Well, I'm sorry, I was being more of a this week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
So that's good. Though, that's good. I like you being
more verbose and not having it just be the Jonathan
Show where I take over and don't let you talk.
I don't. Every time I edit this, I feel really
bad because I'm like, oh, I didn't let.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I Well, the problem is, like I like listening to you,
and I'm also bad at telling when to interject things,
and so wait till you're done, and sometimes you're like,
come on, coming.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Off, except that you've figured out that I've got this
circular breathing thing where I don't even need to inhale
or keep talking. But yeah, our final trailer, we almost
didn't include this, but we we put it in at
the last second.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
The trailer came out like two hours ago, three hours ago.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Now, Yeah, so we got an actual trailer for the
series The Studio. It's Seth Rogan.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Is that name, Seth Rogan. Catherine O'Hara is in it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Catherine Hahn is in it as well. Yeah, this is
the series where Seth Rogan plays a character who becomes
the head of a studio and so he's really balancing
out how do you how are you playing the part
of a producer? What's your actual role as far as
getting films made? And he's running into the challenge of

(01:24:17):
that art versus commerce thing which I was talking about before.
And that was interesting to me because everything I've seen
leading up to this, all the promotional material I've seen
for the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Like the as Apocalypse or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Yeah, it suggested to me that this was just going
to be a satirical comedy about the industry, about the
film industry, and that was all there was to it,
which is fine, Like that would have been fine, But
the trailer surprised me because it introduced a lot of heart,
which I was not expecting.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think Seth Rogen's such a great
person to play the lead character because he is someone
who is known for doing a lot of a lot
of like comedy and a lot of stoner comedy and
a lot of blue comedy, but he can do other stuff,
and you know, I think probably comes from a very

(01:25:12):
real place for a lot of the actors in this
we were talking about earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Yeah, So, like he actually in the trailer talks about
wanting to to satisfy both motivations, like his own personal
motivation to help a true work of art film get made,
like for that to be the product of his work

(01:25:38):
while also being a huge box office success, and people
in the industry are essentially telling him that's impossible. You
can do one or you can do the other. You
can either do something that's going to be wildly successful
and make a billion dollars at the box office, but
it's going to be crap, or it's going to be
like popcorn and there's no real substance to it. Or

(01:25:59):
you can really make an artistic piece, but no one's
gonna bother to go see it, and it's laying bare
this juxtaposition that a lot of the industry seems to
work on. That being said, we all know there are
films that have managed to be both ye where they've
managed to be a success as well as have something

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artistic to say. It just feels like that's the exception,
not the rule.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Yeah. Yeah, and sorry, it's the doll Apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Oh yes, yeah, the Apocalypse the pooping zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Which you told me not even to watch. And if
the show were just that, I would be out. But
this new trailer, I'm going to watch this when it
comes out on March twenty six. Yeah, I'm very excited
about it. Also, Brian Cranston's in it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Yeah, the list of people, Like I imagine the guest
star list on this is going to be like just
really star studded, because again they're going to be poking.
I think everyone in the industry likes referencing the industry occasionally.
Like I've talked about this before. If you watch award seasons,

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if there's a film that has a fairly high profile
that's about the film industry, it always does well during
award seasons. Same thing with like theater too, right, how
many shows can you think of are about show business?
So many that it's I guess it's right what you know,

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But same sort of thing here, but again like also
making fun of the whole studio system and the role
of producers and how cynical everything gets, Like I would
be shocked if there's not like an ongoing thing about
figuring out how to make a movie play better in China,

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for example, because that's such a huge thing in Hollywood, right,
is not just making a movie that's going to do
well domestically, but because China represents such a potentially huge market,
how do you make something that's going to do really
well over there, even if it means you're making decisions
that hurt the movie domestically.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
If it's the film and TV version of Mythic Quest,
it should be pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'm not going.
You were right about the guest list. I did pop
into the IMDb while you were talking, and well, I
was also listening. But the guest list is going to
be insane like the guest star list.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one. This will definitely
be a series that I will check out, especially now
that I know there's heart to it. Like I was
already interested because it looked funny and there's some incredibly
funny people attached to it, but knowing that there is
at least this core of like idealism and hope that

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I definitely want to watch it, even if ultimately it
just is like watch that hope as it slowly reins the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Way I think. I think the thing that we've learned
from this episode of LENC is that the way to
get Jonathan and I are interested in a show is
to show the humanity in it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yeah, it turns out that a little humanity goes a
long way. Maybe it maybe it means that we're both
craving things that have more of humanity on display, like
that that that softer side, that sweeter side of humanity.
Don't know why that would be. Not gonna lay any
commentary here. You can all read between the lines.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
I hope. I hope more people do, though, because I'd
like to get back to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Some of that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
We we we were in a real stretch of of
super dark and grim for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Oh yeah, kind of are yeah, Like like I I
appreciate the artistry that went into Walking Dead, but I
could not stay with that because it was just so
bleak and hopeless. Same with Game of Thrones, Like it's
just I can't, y'all. I need more than just abject
misery and a story where the most decent people are

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the ones who suffer the most. I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, we also can't do this episode anymore
because we're out of stories. I mean, we probably could,
but we probably shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Yeah, we got stuff we gotta do, we do h.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
And also I know you have to edit this, and
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
That's all right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
So uh, I guess do I even ask if people
want to get in touch with you, do you want
to give something? Or do I just tell them to
go through social media? And I'll pass it along.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I mean, obviously, there are ways to get in touch
with me. Yes, I have no Facebook, Yes I have
no Instagram. Yes I'm not on Twitter. Yes I'm recording
this on an old tape deck where I've hit record
and I'm just holding it up to a speaker. These
all of these things are true, But there are still
ways to get in touch. For me, the best way

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is to write in long hand a very thoughtful letter.
Address it to me care of large nerd on collider.
Be ornate in your handwriting. If you can do calligraphy,
that is appreciated, not required, but it will mean that
I'll answer it more quickly than if you just scribble
something down. You're going to want to seal that letter

(01:31:26):
with a wax seal using an emblem representative of your
family line, maternal or paternal. I'm not picky, but it
does need to actually reflect your family line in some
truly meaningful way, So not just an initial of a
last name or something. It needs to truly represent who
you are as a person. If you put both on there,

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maternal and paternal, that's going to get you to the
front of the line. Once you have done all of that.
I'm going to need you to dip this letter in
paraffin wax, and once that's done, you will need to
set fire to the letter and allow it to burn
completely down by itself. Don't extinguish it. If it extinguishes

(01:32:12):
on its own prematurely, that's fine, but otherwise you just
have to let it completely burn down. Then collect all
the pieces of the letter, whether there's like solid pieces
or it's just ash, and put that all into a
glass bottle. Now, it can't just be any glass bottle.
It has to be cobalt glass, so it as to
be that dark blue glass. Put a cork stopper on it.

(01:32:36):
You're going to need to go out into the closest
wooded area near you with a piece of twine and
that bottle. You're going to find a tree that just
stands out from all the other trees. You know, maybe
it just looks a little strange. Maybe it's a species
of tree that's unlike all the ones around it. You'll

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know it when you see it. On the lowest brand.
I'm going to need you to tie that piece of
string around the neck of the bottle and hang it
from that limb. And then you're going to sit down
at the tree. You're going to say, answer me, answer me,
answer me, just like that three times you're going to leave.
There will be a windy night that night that will
blow against that bottle. When you come back the next day,

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the bottle will be open, the cork will be gone,
the ashes emptied from the bottle, and next to you
will be me, and I will say, there's a lot
of work. What's your question?

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
And if you are allergic to colbalt glass so you
can't do this, you can reach out to us on
social media on Facebook and Instagram and threads. We're large
nerdohn Collider. We're also that on discord. You can get
the invite to our discord on our website www dot
larch Narsure and glider dot com. That also has our
show notes. A little bit behind, but I will catch

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up again. That's doing so good for a while. You
can also on Blue Sky we are llenc podcast and
Ellency Underscore podcast. I Think Tribal you'll find us, And
then on Gmail if you want to send us a
longer message, you can reach out to us at large

(01:34:17):
neurdrom pod at gmail dot com. We truly love you
listening we love talking with you, we love geeking out
with you. You know, if you know other people who
love to geek out with us, tell them about the show.
And until next time. I am Aerial, good thing, I
don't own.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
A yard Caston, and I am Jonathan, Miss Austin. If
you're nasty Strickland. The Large nor Dron Collider was created
by Aeriel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again.
Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod of.

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