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May 26, 2023 49 mins

LNC remembers the iconic Tina Turner. We also talk about how Ariel and Jonathan had very different reactions to the latest trailer for the Barbie movie, how a new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie looks really good, and how some pro gamers are trying to look out for the next generation of eSports athletes. 

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large nor Dron Collier Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston and with me, as always
is the exceptionally awesome Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I do need another.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hero, me too, Jonathan. This week we all need another hero.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, So we wanted to start off before we jump
into all the news and stuff, to take a moment
to talk about a couple of different people who have
passed away this week. And first up is Tina Turner.
Obviously a legend in entertainment, had a musical career that
spanned multiple decades, numerous hits, incredible blye influential in rock

(01:03):
and roll, in rhythm and blues. Some of my favorite
songs are Tina Turner songs. But not only that, but
she also obviously had a big impact in the geek sphere.
She's been in a few properties that stand out to me.
The first one I would say is Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

(01:23):
That's the third of the Mad Max movies. She played Auntie.
She was like the chief antagonist of that film and
did a great job. But she also had a notable
turn as the Acid Queen in the film adaptation of
the whose concept album Tommy So Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
She also I think she was in Last Action Hero.
Wasn't She.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Might have been. It has been so long since I've
seen Last Action Hero. It's hard for me to say,
but it's possible. Well, Tina Turner was obviously, like I said,
iconic in multiple respects, you know, music and in entertainment
in general. There's an entire stage musical dedicated to her career,
which is also phenomenal. If you need a suggestion for

(02:14):
songs to listen to, I actually really like Nutbush City Limits.
It's one of her early songs with Ike Turner. It's
an incredible song, like it rocks so hard.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And you're being genuine about that. You're not just picking
it because the name of it is Nutbush City Limits.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's named after a town in Tennessee. It is it is.
I get that it has a funny sound, but no,
it really like that song rocks Aeriel, It rocks like
it melts my face off. It is a great song.
If it rocks, yeah, yeah. If you need a different one,
listen to Proud Mary that's another great one or we
Don't Need Another Hero, which was from the Beyond Thunderdome soundtrack.

(02:53):
But Tina was not the only person we lost this week.
We also lost actor Ray Stevenson. He passed away this
week and he also has been in geek properties, including
the Thor movies. He was one of the Warriors three
who appeared in several of the Thor films and yeah,

(03:14):
he passed away this week rather suddenly too.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, he was also I Punisher King Arthur and the
upcoming of Shoa Ahsoka series. The worst part about Ray
Stevenson is he was young. He was only fifty eight, so.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, Tina Turner was eighty three, which is a I
mean still well. She also had had experienced multiple medical
issues over the last several years, like she had kidney
failure and all these other medical problems, but was able
to get a kidney transplant. Her husband actually donated a
kidney to her, and so she was able to live

(03:52):
several more years. On top of that, it wasn't expected
because how severe her medical issues had become. But yeah,
Ray Stevenson was That was a real shock because it
was like it wasn't that long ago that he was
actively working on set.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, I mean because Ahsoka hasn't even come out yet. Yeah, yeah,
well so that's so unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, we want to shout out to both of those performers,
and you know, we're fortunate to be graced with work
that they have created that we can continue to enjoy
for years to come. And so we're thankful for what
they have done. And with that, rather you know, somber
news out of the way, we thought we would segue

(04:36):
over to thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, a little bit of a pick me up.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yes, and I guess I will get started and actually,
well here we go. Are you totally bummed that, after
one more entry in the Fast and Furious franchise that
story will finally be over? I mean apart from hiring
a local toddler to come to your house and use
matchbox cars to create action sequences at random, how are

(05:04):
you going to get your fix? Well, good news, bam,
because Vin Diesel has revealed there will be spinoffs, starting
with a quote unquote female spinoff his words, not mine.
And also the two part ending could end up being
a three partner. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, but if you are not quite feeling like beginning
the end for Fast and Furious. Yet you can go
see The Little Mermaid Little Mermaid instead, which has been
getting mixed reviews. The initial reviews were, oh, this is great,
this is the best Disney live action remake, and then
a bunch of other reviews came in saying it's it's

(05:43):
not reimagined, it's lost a lot of edge, so it's
veryly middling. It is amusing to me that they're saying
it's the best live action remake so far because it's
seventy one percent critically fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, which is
much lower than Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King,
Jungle Book, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I will say that my favorite review so far was
one you shared with me Ariel, where NPR referenced Ariel's
friends Flounder, Sebastian, and Aquafina.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yes. Yes, also because the new song is called the Scuttle.
But I've been using every opportunity I can to say
that and upset my friends.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Fair enough, All right, Next up, If The Silmarillion has
been on your list of books to read forever but
you still haven't cracked the spine, maybe you could consider
an upcoming audiobook adaptation of the work. Andy Serkis, who
played Smiegel slash Gollum in the Peter Jackson, Lord of
the Rings and Hobbit films, narrates the new audiobook, which
comes out June twenty second. The Silmarillion is a collection

(06:43):
of poems and stories relating to the creation of Tolkien's mythical.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
World Next, speaking of mythical worlds, kind of, we got
a new trailer for Strange New Worlds that star Trek
prequel with Daddy Pike, as so many people call him.
It again looks delightful. Season two looks like it's going
to be a lot of fun. There are things in
it that excite me, there are things in it that

(07:09):
kind of upset me. And the thing that's been getting
the most buzz is apparently a couple of the characters
from Lower Decks makeing a live action appearance on this
new season.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Cool. Well, if you've been waiting on the edge of
your seat for a follow up to the twenty twenty
one Moral Kombat film, we've got some casting news about
the sequel. Rumor has it Carl Urban is in talks
to play the Hollywood superstar Johnny Cage. Tati Gabrielle is
in talks to play Jade, and Adeline Rudolph is slated
to play Kitana. We're also likely to see characters who

(07:44):
survived the first film return and heck, maybe even some
of the dead ones will be back to.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Next is a little bit of a It may not
be a story for everybody, but the story for me.
There is a TV show called The Chosen that goes
about the life of Jesus, made news because it was
crowd funded. Millions of dollars were raised for it. It's
got a bunch of i would say, higher name actors
in it. It's actually very well done, and Lionsgate is

(08:12):
picking it up, which to now that it's in a
third season, to give it more distribution, which is really
interesting to me because of the whole crowd funding structure.
So we'll see what comes of that and how the
show changes.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, if it's anything like the community episode where Abad
makes a movie, a meta movie about Jesus, then I'm
all in all right. Renegade Game Studios will release a
card game called Good Omens and Ineffable Game on June fifth.
The game is inspired by the novel by Neil Gaman
and Terry Pratchett, which was subsequently adapted very well. I

(08:50):
might add into a series that's now getting a sequel,
and it will go beyond where the book left off.
But the game includes both cards and dice, and it
is a cooperative game for two to four players. It'll
cost twenty five bucks for a set, and there will
be three different versions of the boxed set, although the
game and z will be the same, but there'll be
you know, differences in the cover art and maybe some

(09:12):
extras thrown in there too.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And lastly, in our thirty seconds or less part of me,
Diablo for is breaking the fourth wall with their new
live action trailer. It's got real people asking you to
help in the Diablo world interspersed with Diablo gameplay. It's
really interesting. It feels like a call to action commercial

(09:38):
from the from the big sports football game every year.
It's really it's really interesting. It's a it's a different
approach for them.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I told Dariel Lefter i watched this trailer that
it should be called Diablo for Spike the camera because
character after character looks right down the barrel of the
lens to deliver their line. And I found it very
off putting and cringey based on a from a filmmaking perspective,
it really I was like, this was not a good idea.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I mean, they do it in commercials too, Like I said,
it really feels like a like a sports drink commercial
or something.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, I think that's why. I think that's why it's
not hitting right for me, because it doesn't feel like
like it doesn't cause it's made to look like it's
a fantasy epic, but with fantasy characters spiking the lens.
And that's just if it had more, if it had
more of a sense of humor to it, I think
it would work. But it's being done like with no
sense of humor at all, because that's not what you know.

(10:42):
Diablo really lacks a sense of humor. For the most part.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I feel like Diablo does have a sense of humor.
It's just very strategically placed.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, like maybe once every six hours in gameplay or so,
or if you go to.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Like the Unicorn or cow Level or whatever they.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Are, Your man, you're talking old Diolo there. I'm thinking
about the more recent ones where it's like, hey, do
you remember how grim things got at the lowest point
in Lord of the Rings. That's our starting point.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, but you know what, you can always cheer yourself
up playing Diablo if if you still play it by
just picturing what the voice actors have to do to
voice those monsters, because they're all done by people.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, it's hilarious, that's true. But yeah, if you have
to look for the meta to get to the humor,
then But you know what, I'm just a grouch. I'm
being a grumpy, sour puss. Let's talk. Yeah, I was
gonna say, let's talk about stuff what we watched in
the last week, And I watched as Ariel just alluded

(11:48):
to grem Len's The Legend of Bagua. The first two
episodes launched on what is now called Max, but it
used to be called HBO Max and and it's pretty good.
I watched the first two episodes. I thought that the
animation is great, the humor is fun. It's not like

(12:09):
just a comedy. It's not like all slap dash comedy
like Grimlin's two is. There's some drama and some horror
added into this. But but it's got a real good
comedic voice and the voice acting is really good too.
So yeah, I was I have low expectations going into
watching these, but I really enjoyed them.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Did they in the first two episodes explain why they
called Gizmo Gizmo, even though he didn't get that name
until the movie.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, I was going to avoid Okay, no no, no, no, no,
that door has been opened and now I must burst through. No,
they do not. They do not explain how Gizmo magically
got the name Gizmo, even though we know from the
first film that name was given to him by an
inventor of Gizmo's That's why his name is Gizmo, because

(12:58):
an inventor gave him that name. But no, in this car,
he's just magically called Gizmo because that's what the merchandising
already has. It would be confusing for him to have
a different name, I guess, because it is supposed to
be the exact same critter. But no, no, they do not.
And yet, now that you've said that, Ariel, I have
to change my opinion. Worst cartoon ever made.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Ah, just you know, I, Jonathan enjoy it. It's fine.
I'm sorry I said it. Forget I said it. Edit
it out of your brain. I haven't done much geeky TV.
Watching after an episode of um Actually, which is a
dropout original TV show that's kind of like Jeopardy, but

(13:38):
where you're geekly correcting people. My husband and I decided
to try Succession is Wow Yeah, which is not really geeky.
It's it's like a sad, depressing Arrested Development as a
drama and not a comedy. There are funny bits in it,
it's very dark.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's like if you put Arrested Development with Game of
Throw Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, so that's not it's it's a well known show.
I wouldn't call it geeky other than that. Continuing to
watch King of the Hill, Continuing to watch The Ravening War,
which is the latest D and D campaign from Dimension twenty.
I'm about to start picking up Last of Us in
community again so that I can, you know, share your pain,

(14:25):
Jonathan and your joy. But but this week, and I
watched Creed a couple weeks ago. I don't know if
I ever mentioned that I meant to, and then I
think it slipped my mind Creed three, But I am
looking forward to this week watching American born Chinese. I
think is the name I always I always transpose the

(14:46):
words in that. But that's coming out this week and
I might even go see The Little Mermaid over the
long weekend. Despite the middling reviews, I feel obligated on
a couple fronts to see it, so and I'm sure
I'll enjoy the spectac and Melissa McCarthy's performance of nothing Else.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, I really I need to watch the rest of Mayhem.
I watched the beginning of Mayhem, the first episode and
fell in love with it. It is that, by the way,
that's the show about the Muppets Electric Mayhem band, and
it's kind of the story supposedly of how they finally
have to make an album. They've been touring forever. There's

(15:25):
just a touring band on an album band. And the
first episode is just about perfect, Like it's the perfect
level of corny humor, it's the perfect level of Muppet chaos.
It makes me think of the original era Muppets, like
the seventies and eighties era Muppets, and as a gen xer,

(15:48):
it really speaks to me because it makes me it's like,
these are the Muppets I remember when I watch that
and it's done, and I'm modern saying, like it's not
all outdated jokes or anything, and I I can't speak
highly enough about it because it's just so darn entertaining.
But I'm currently on hold watching it because I'm supposed
to watch it with my partner and currently she's in

(16:10):
another state, so I have to wait till she gets
back home before we can watch any more of it.
Quick question for you too, a lot of curiosity. Did
you finish out the first season of the night Court reboot?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I did finish the first season of night Court. I've finished.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
There's a cameo in that last episode of a character
who came out of the original night Court show.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I don't look I watch it. I also started watching
the second season of How I Met Your Father, which
I'm not really enjoying, so I don't know why I
put it on, despite the fact I know some people
who auditioned for it and they're great actors, and the
people in it are great actors. But I don't remember cameo.
I'm sorry, it's been so.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's Ra's it's the uh oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
She shows up in the very last episode of season
one of the night Court reboot. Yeah. So they sixteen
episodes for season one. They were renewed for a season
two surprising, yeah kind of. Well they were renewed early too,
but then they got like seven million views on that

(17:23):
first episode, which then dramatically dropped to less than half
of that for the second one. And if you watch
the first episode you can understand why.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yes, I also plan on very soon picking up Foundation,
because I really do on Apple TV, because I really
do want to watch the second season of that. The
trailer did hook me, much like the article that we
posted or yeah, we shared said it would. Speaking of articles,
our first news item this week really surprised me and
it rides the line of too much when it comes

(17:56):
to method acting. So Jude Law is doing a King
Henry or did a King Henry movie and where he
played King Henry the eighth, and he decided called Firebrand,
and he decided that he was going to smell the part.
So he had a perfume made that smelled like blood,

(18:18):
quote blood, fecal matter and sweat to smell like King
Henry because like King Henry had like this big deeping
wound on his leg and like I'm sure he did
not smell great. Yeah, but like and on the one hand,
they don't say they put any rose oil in the perfume,
which apparently King Henry used which to cover the smell. Yeah,

(18:42):
which could have made it much worse or much better.
I don't know. Like, on the one hand, this is
not a harmful action like sending people dead rats, or
pulling out your own teeth or living inside a bear
carcass in the woods. However, I would not want to
be on set with this man. And I'm an actor.
I can imagine bad smells. I don't actually have to

(19:05):
act with someone who smells like an outhouse.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah. You know, we've had discussions about method acting before,
and you know, not to dismiss an entire school of acting.
I don't mean to suggest that method acting doesn't have
its place. The problem I have is that often when
we talk about method acting, it really seems to boil
down not into how can I inhabit this character, but
rather how can I use this job. I've got to

(19:31):
create as much grief on everybody around me as possible
and have a very selfish experience performing in this production.
I get that it's not how the people who are
engaged in method acting are necessarily looking at it, but
from the outside that's what I always get. I'm like,
how come you're so selfish that your process has to

(19:54):
be so important that it impacts the people who are
trying to work around you, because guess what, they all
have lives too, they all are working too, They're all
trying to do a great job too. And if you're
impacting them through your selfish actions, you are a bad actor.
Jude Law.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I mean, now, I'm sure everybody had very realistic, like
trying to hide the fact that it smells reactions, which
probably happened back in the day. But yeah, and I
will admit that I have been a person that in
my LARPing and in my acting. I have mainly in
LARPing I've gone, oh, i'm playing this character who's a baker.

(20:32):
I'm going to smell a little bit like cinnamon and
vanilla because I think that's a nice little touch. However,
I'm very particular about it, especially with sense, because I
know so many people who cannot handle perfumes, essential oils,
sense things like that because it really upsets them. It
makes it hard for them to breathe and give some
headaches things like that. Yes, so you know, maybe maybe

(20:56):
they didn't talk about it because it's not as good news.
But maybe he was like, hey, I have this idea
to the rest of his actors and the director, and
they said, oh, yeah, that's great, We're on board. And
if that's the case, wonderful. But the director is quoted
as saying that it was miserable to be around that smell.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, and you know what, he's already doomed himself. This
is a Jude Law. This was a dumb idea you had.
It was a dumb idea. And I'll tell you why,
because no matter how good you are in Firebrand, it
doesn't matter how spectacular spectacular you are, there will be
someone who writes a headline Jude Law stinks up the place,
and it will be accurate because you did this. Okay,

(21:34):
you did this, Jude Law. You brought this on yourself,
Jude Law.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Jonathan says lovingly, in case you're a friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, listen, I don't. I don't hold him in
as much contempt as I do some other method actors.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
So uh. And I honestly I like a lot of
Jude Law's work, but this was just this was just
one of those decisions where I'm like, you know, when
I watch a movie about Henry the Eighth, I don't
need to see how everybody else instinctatively has that recoil
reaction as soon as they get close enough to him
to pick up his scent. I don't need that. That
doesn't it's not going to really matter much to me.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah. Yeah, And I will say, like method acting does
get somewhat of a bum wrap from people who do
it poorly. Stanislovsky didn't necessarily mean for people to do
the things that they do that make all the headlines.
It's kind of been by other people who've worked with
Stanislovsky have said that it's his method has been pushed

(22:33):
to extremes in a way that he did not intend.
So I have not studied method acting. I've just studied
things based off method acting. Kind of most acting methods
come off of Stanislovsky and he I was in a
workshop with the casting director recently who said, in Stantoslovsky
take it from people before him. So interesting. But if

(22:54):
if you don't want to method act, but you rather
just want to rememb good memories, you can pick up
some very expensive memorabilia to do.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So, yes, there's gonna be this huge props in costumes
auction that is coming up toward the end of June.
It's June twenty eight through the thirtieth. It's taking place
in Los Angeles, but there will also be an online
method for people to place bids. It's a huge, huge auction.

(23:25):
One of the jewel pieces in the auction is a
dress worn by Carrie Fisher in Star Wars A New Hope.
It's the gown she wears at the end when she's
giving everyone their awards. Not you, Chewbaka, you have to
wait until film number nine, but you don't get it
in film number four technically, So anyway, that one's probably

(23:48):
like the top level. It's gonna I'm guessing. I guess
that's probably gonna be the highest priced item if I
had to make a guess, because of the sentimental connection
to Carrie Fisher as well to Star Wars itself. And yeah,
this is not an auction to jump into if you're
looking for something for like one hundred bucks or less.

(24:11):
Just the catalog alone, if you want to see what
items are going to be up for auction, will set
you back sixty dollars.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah. Yeah, they've like I love Star Wars and Princess
Leah and Kerrie Fisher and all that. Honestly, were I
to spend more money than I have on something, it
would either be a bat, a bat vehicle because they're
selling a batpod, or one of the hammers from Shawshank Redemption, which,

(24:42):
to be fair, one of the hammers from Shashank Redemption
is one of the more affordable options that they're guessing
like it's going to go for like fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Or not.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
If you yeah, fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
When you're saying that's one of the more affordable ones,
that kind of puts into perspective. How Now, A lot
of prop bocs will also include stuff that are not
like hero costumes or hero props, hero being the ones
that the lead is using in the close up shots
and stuff. Sometimes you'll get stuff that is more like,
you know, like extras costumes and props, and those often

(25:16):
don't look anywhere close to as good as the hero
stuff because they don't need to write why would you
put in the unless you're Peter Jackson, you don't put
in the effort for the thing that no one can
see to make it look like it's amazing. So those
tend to be much less, much lower in value and
much lower auction prices typically, So this memorabilia will probably

(25:39):
have a whole range. It's just that the top items
are going to be like more than a house.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And you know, along the line of props, I got
to give props to some.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
That is the best segue.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Thank you. I had time to think about it as
I turned on lights in my my recording studio. Yeah.
So League of Legend pro leagues are actually talking about
staging a walkout to protect the minor leagues because the
basically the federation that oversees esports and specific specifically specifically

(26:20):
League of Legends has said that pro leagues no longer
have to like basically sponsor and mentors minor leagues, which, yeah,
which is something that happened in the past, and a
lot of the pro leaguers are saying that's not cool
if we want sports to be sustainable and good and
healthier because esports, like you guys don't. I don't know

(26:44):
how many of you realize, but esports takes a big
toll on you physically and mentally. There's a lot of training,
there's a lot of like stress, there's a lot of
you know, having to supplement all the time you're sitting
in a chair learning a game, and like carpal tunnel
like it sounds it sounds like not a lot, but
actually a lot of esports people retire early. So you

(27:04):
want to have good succession plan and you want to
have good mentorship so that it grows as a healthy
arena for sports.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, and so the issue here is that when the
Federation said teams would no longer be required to have
these minor league teams that are a corollary to the
major leagues, the major leaguers were saying a lot of
us came up through those minor leagues, Like a lot
of us came from there, and we wouldn't have the

(27:31):
opportunities we have now if it weren't for the minor leagues.
And by removing that requirement from teams, a lot of
the teams like, not the players, but the people who
own the teams are like, oh, well, if we don't
have to manage the expense of having a minor team,
that's more money for us. So let's just eliminate the
minor teams. And the players are like, Okay, it's not cool.

(27:51):
The Federation's not cool. Riot games isn't cool. For allowing
this to happen. We want a change here, and it
may mean walking out if we don't see a reversal
of this decision, because they feel, as Ariel was saying,
then the long run, this is harmful for the entire sport.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, and esports, you know, it's it's interesting because it's
something that I know Jonathan has seen in his time
on this planets as I have. I esports weren't a
thing when I was a kid, and they're more recently
being recognized, but they're being recognized by you know, the
entertainment industry. Frequently, some of the partnerships that I'm a

(28:31):
part of, or the organizations that I'm a part of
that help with film and Georgia specifically have entire panels
or workshops or events based around esports because it's both
a legitimate sport and a legitimate entertainment venue now. So
I'm glad that players are taking accountability and standing up

(28:54):
for what is good and right for the industry. I like,
I've liked watching League of Legends and also StarCraft tournaments,
so good on them.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah. Yeah, No, solidarity, y'all. Solidarity. We've talked about it
before because we talk about with the writer strike, which
is still obviously a thing. I fully believe that this
is the way to enact change where especially when you
have people who are higher up in an organization speaking
out for people who otherwise would not be heard. It's

(29:23):
really cool. Something else that I think is really cool,
and it's going to seem weird that we're going to
talk about it in a geek oriented podcast. But we
got a trailer for the new film adaptation of The
Color Purple. So The Color Purple originally nineteen eighty two
novel written by Alice Walker. It was adapted into a
feature film in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
It was directed by Steven Spielberg. It's a big movie. Well,
we're getting another adaptation now. But this is a film
adaptation of a stage musical adaptation of The Color Purple.
So it's a music version of the story. And the
trailer looks good. It's interesting because I think the trailer

(30:06):
also buries the fact that it's a musical until toward
the very end of the trailer.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah that I was curious on whether it was going
to be the musical version till we got halfway through
the trailer. But the fact that it is the musical
version means that it is geeky, because we have already
commandeered musical theater into our geek ship.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, and I've heard some of the songs from The
Color Purple because they've come on. I haven't listened to
the album all the way through, so I don't I
can't comment on it all the way through, but I
have heard some of the songs playing because of them
being on iHeartRadio Broadway. That's not a plug, it's just
that's where I heard it from, and I liked. I
liked what I heard. So my hope is that this

(30:51):
will be a really well received film because I love
musicals in general. I also love movie musicals, and if
we get more movie musicals that are done well and
we avoid you know, like Travesty's, like Phantom of the Opera,
I'm all for it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I also like The Color Purple, I like, so yeah,
I'm all around. I'm excited for this. I've I've known
that it was we've known it's finnhap was going to
happen for a while, and I'm glad the trailer's finally out.
Something I missed was happening was a Skull Island cartoon,
or maybe I didn't and I just forgot.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I knew that there was the Skull Island adaptation
that's gonna happen at Disney, plus that one is based
off a book by Joe DeVito that my dad worked on.
I know that one is coming down the pike at
some point. But yeah, I didn't. I didn't catch on
to the fact there was going to be an animated
series for for Skull Island. But we got a teaser

(31:51):
for that and it's coming to Netflix, and the teaser,
I mean, it looks pretty good. It's the animation style
reminds me a little bit of things like, you know,
Avatar and Legend of Korra. So it looks I mean,
it looks like it's going to be exciting. It's kind
of hard to get a real read on it because
it was really a bunch of disconnected action sequences.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean, it feels like one of the Kong's
Kong Godzilla movies, just a bunch of disconnected actions. Honestly,
I haven't watched Skull Island to the movie. I really should,
but I've been told by friends of mine that it
feels like every actor is in their own movie. So
your description of the cartoon sounds accurate.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Ah, man, that that is about so, I haven't watched it.
I'm not as big on the Giant Monsters as Ariel is.
Arial tends to catch those films more than I do.
I think I have an appreciation for the original King Kong.
I think that still is a phenomenal movie, you know,
even with all the years that have passed. But like
that that film, I have a genuine love for less

(32:57):
so for Godzilla, don't. I've never really connected with the
Godzilla movies, like either the classic ones or the more
recent ones. So so this one was one where it
was going to be an uphill battle to sell me,
and I'm not sold on it. But I will say
it looks like it was well made. I just don't
know that it will appeal to me, because again, whatever

(33:19):
the gene is that connects you to oh big Monsters,
I want to watch, I'm missing that one.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
So I'm like, I get it. Godzilla is definitely more
for me than King Kong. King Kong falls dangerously close
in many of its iterations to animal endagement, and I
don't like that, or it just is in many cases
because he's just a giant, a giant gorilla. But like
in Godzilla versus Kong, it's fine because he's capable. Eventually
he's capable and can fight for himself.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Well yeah, and in those movies, Kong can change height
at a given between scenes, like in this scene he's
one hundred feet tall and this scene he's a hundred
stories tall.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
And there is a difference, yes, but if you want, yes,
there's a difference. If you want mutants instead of monsters,
we guess for you.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
This segue was not as good.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
No, no, But the trailer that we're about to talk
about is so we're getting a new teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles movie, Mutant.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Mayhem, Yeah, animated film, and we got a trailer for it.
And like, I run hot and cold on Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles, like I am aware of their long history,
how they started off as a comic book that was
not really meant for kids. It was kind of almost
like a send up of Superhero, but like a dark

(34:44):
send up, not like a wacky, silly thing like a
lot of the versions of the Tick. In fact, the
Tick is kind of similar. The Tick also started as
a harder edged satire, but this animation it looks like,
this looks like a movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, it's got really great casting. It's interesting because, uh,
the the voice actors in this movie, are they like
Jackie Chan has Splinter right, Yeah, tons, tons of great
voice actors. It looks like mostly kids playing the turtles,
but they don't know sound like kids to me. The

(35:25):
thing that so, I got to see this trailer or
a trailer similar to it before Dungeons and Dragons in
the movie theater, and I thought it also looked very interesting,
and then I forgot about it. The thing though, that
was super interesting to me is that the screenplay is
by Seth Rogan.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, and speaking about those voice actors, it's nice to
hear teenage mutant ninja turtles who sound kind of like teenagers, like, yes,
it doesn't sound like adults who are just saying doing
like Californifornia surfer style delivery. It sounds like it teenagers
and that's great. And I also love the like the

(36:04):
animation style makes me think a lot of across the
Spider Verse type stuff, not quite as not as multi
media as across the Spider Verse, but it has similar
feel to it and yeah, I don't know. Man, this
this trailer really struck a chord with me, and that's
that's not easy to do because I'm kind of I

(36:24):
kind of just don't care about the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles in general, because a lot of the stuff I've
seen over the years just just I didn't find very entertaining.
But this looks good. I'll probably watch it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
I love Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. You know, my last
car was named after one. I've got the arcade down
in my basement, but like, I haven't watched a lot
of the more recent stuff, so like the original cartoon
and then the like the old movies that are still
like the costumes of that are still really good. And
then the more recent movies where the story is stunk

(36:59):
but the characters were correct. But yeah, I'm excited for this.
I didn't know what was happening until, you know, a
few weeks ago. I'm super excited for this. I'm definitely
gonna watch it. The next trailer. I would say this
is the thing that fits the least into the geek
verse for us this week.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I disagree. I disagree entirely. And the reason why so
the trailer is for a film called Problemista, which is
a surrealist comedy that is written and directed by Julio Torres,
and it's a film where there's a lot of sort
of magical realism stuff going on inside the film. You

(37:42):
don't know how much of that is supposed to actually
be happening in the world versus what is, you know,
just going on kind of to show elements of what's
going on in people's heads and that kind of stuff.
It looks really like a Terry Gilliam movie to me,
and that's why I think it really fits in the
geek's sphere, because it has visual aspects of it that

(38:06):
make it reminds me of Terry Gilliam's approach in movies
like Brazil or even Twelve Monkeys, but not dark like
Twelve Monkeys, but that weird absurdism that kind of falls
into it. And it looks really interesting to me, and

(38:26):
I the trailer really caught my attention.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
The trailer does look good. It's written and directed and
starred in by Julio Torres, as you said, who's a
writer for SNL, and I definitely get some SNL vibes
in it, but like good SNL vibes.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, there's there's definitely there's definitely comedy, Like it's not
it's not dark like a Terry Gillia movie would be,
but I think it's imaginative in a way that Terry
Gillia movies are.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, there were definitely some some moments where like is
this really happening or is this like in his brain?
It kind of felt very Napoleon Dynamite to me, honestly.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah. I have only watched bits of Napoleon Dynamite because
I found the character insufferable, so I couldn't watch it
all the way through, So it's hard for me to
comment on that. It's just I don't know, there's something
sort of whimsical about it, but also like the character
is in a predicament where they're trying desperately to stay

(39:28):
in the country and they're kind of at the whims
of a manipulative person in order to try and achieve
that goal. I don't know. I saw this and I
thought this is not normally the kind of thing I
gravitate toward, But it looks like it's done so well
that I really want to see it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, Yeah, I can totally see that I will likely
watch it myself. Something else that I will probably watch,
although this news has me wondering if I like it
as much. Oddly, is the Barbie movie We got a
new trailer?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, this one has a bit of an edge to it.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's got a bit of an edge to it, and
it flushes out some aspects that we knew were going
to happen, like Barbie going to the real world, but
in a way that makes me worry it's going to
be like the parts of the Lego movie I didn't like.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Hmm, interesting, Yeah, maybe, well both of them involved Will Ferrell, Right,
So then in the real world. Yeah, in the real world,
I get what you're saying, I guess, but I don't know.
To me, this actually made me even more interested. I
was already interested because it looked like it was such
a a goofy, silly take on the IP and I

(40:48):
was like, oh, okay, well, I'm kind of on board
this one. I thought, Wow, there might be there actually
might be more to say in this film than I
was giving it credit for. And I was already, like
I said, kind of on board, And now I'm intrigued. Yeah,
it really just falls down to can they pull it
off in a way that comes across as not just

(41:10):
entertaining but genuine, Or is it going to feel like
it's a bunch of lip service about you know, representation
and body image issues and things like that. Where are
we going to land on that?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, So, if you haven't watched the new trailer, basically
half of the trailer is Barbie in the Real World.
After Kate McKinnon's Barbie, who is always doing the splits,
tells her that she can basically pick the red pillar
or the blue pill in shoe form to decide which
truths she wants to live with.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Except she doesn't really she doesn't really get a choice.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
She doesn't know. She wants to pick the high heel.
She wants to stay in happy Barbie Land, and Kate
McKinnon's like, no, pick the sandal, this is the real world.
Pick the sandle. It's interesting. Watch the trailer decide for yourself.
I will still watch this movie, I think. I just
hope it doesn't lose the bizarre whimsy of the first
half of the movie going to the real world. When

(42:05):
that happened, when the real world stuff happened in the
Lego movie, it just made the movie feel like it
slowed down for me, and it also it lost my interest,
so I made it too long.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, I don't disagree with you about the Lego movie stuff.
I'm curious to see if it will be like a
half and half or if the Barbie world stuff will
be like the first twenty minutes and the rest of
the movie is the real world, Like, Yeah, I don't like.
It might just be a first act and then the
other two acts are in the real world. I don't know,

(42:37):
but I don't know. I'm definitely still intrigued, so I will.
I am more likely to see this now than I
was before, and I was already kind of leaning toward
it even before this trailer.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, which is hilarious because when we very first heard
about the movie, I think both you and I had
the reaction of why so yes, way to go everybody
involved for completely changing our minds and telling it reminding
us that we need to not be quite so cynical
all the time. So, back when we first started talking

(43:12):
about large Ner Drunk Collider, and then back when we
picked it up as a podcast, one of the things
that we had mentioned doing was as a segment was
finishing off with a weird food item, a weird geeky
food item, because at the time we were getting bombarded
with bizarre food stuff and while we didn't stick with that,

(43:32):
this last story made me feel like I'm at least
getting to it once.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah. Yeah, the story made me think of like, have
you ever played in a session of D and D
where somebody just catchually says, you know, do you think
gelatinous cubes taste like jello?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah? Yeah, So this news, this last story is about.
I think it's a show. It's an anime coming out
called Delicious in Dungeon where a group it's basically D
and D Gormond where a bunch of adventurers have to
save one of their party members, but they're out of
food and money, and so they decide to eat monsters.
But uh, secret of secrets, Like the leader of the

(44:16):
party has always wanted to do that.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, the leader of the party has always wondered what
monsters taste like and wants to eat monsters.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, And so like, I kind of get it. Also,
it looks it looks cute. It honestly looks kind of cute,
But I am worried about where they're going to draw
the line of what a monster is and what they're
willing to eat.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, it's hard to save. Based on the trailer, I
would not be surprised if they push that line pretty hard.
But yeah, it looks amusing. There's a woman in the
party who is dead set against trying to eat monsters
and has like some pretty hard lines she do that
want to cross, and it looks like that's where a
lot of the comedy's going to come from. It's apparently

(45:05):
it's based off a manga, so this is an existing
property that's being adapted into an anime. And the trailer
was amusing it. I laughed a couple times.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, me too, also, because like, on the one hand,
you're like, Okay, you're eating monsters, what's a monster? Are
you eating something you really shouldn't eat? On the other hand,
everybody has had to deal with piggy eaters before, and
that's the other side of the comedy. So yeah, it
comes out January twenty twenty four if it isn't delayed
by writers strike type stuff, and I will probably give

(45:38):
it a try. I've been wanting to watch some more animes,
so I'll probably give this one a try. Me too,
And that silence means we've hit the end of our episode.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I have to wait for you to introduce the way
to contact me. That's why I can't just say anything.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Shoot yeah, so yeah, that silence reaches the end of
our episode. It's kind of a shorter one this week.
If you're sad about that, write us and tell us.
Or if there's anything you want us to talk about topics.
I swear we've got your topic suggestions. We will get
to them. We even have a couple of ideas for
mashups that we might bring back in the future. But yeah,

(46:17):
if you want any of that, or you just want
to share your opinions on something we've talked about, you
should write us. Jonathan, how do they do that?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Well, the way to get in contact with me is
to go to a family reunion, And by that I
mean an auto show. When you go to the auto show,
because families forever, you're gonna look around and you're gonna
see there's this just this random auto part just sitting
on the ground. You walk up to it, You'll look around,
nobody's looking your way, nobody seems to be looking for

(46:44):
this part. You're gonna just sort of casually bend over,
pick it up, put it in your pocket. You're gonna
forget about it till you get home. You put your
hand in your pocket, you're like, what's this? Pull it out.
It's that auto part. You're like, huh. Then you're gonn
feel this weird compulsion to go and install it in
the nearby car. If you don't have a don't worry.
You'll be pulled to the nearest car to do it there,
and then you'll install the part in the car, and

(47:06):
then you'll feel compelled to get behind the driver's seat
and get back there, and the car will just start
up magically and it'll drive off and take you on
a wild and crazy ride, breaking several traffic laws along
the way, and when you finally get to the destination,
it'll be in this weird clearing surrounded by trees. You'll
even wonder how you even fit through there, and there

(47:26):
will be this myst that's just kind of hanging over
the car, and you'll step out and you'll hear, so,
what's your question?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
And it's me, I actually like that, So everybody's just
right Jonathan this week. Okay, Now, if you don't want
to do that, or you don't drive. You can contact
us on social media on Twitter where llenc Underscore Podcast
on Facebook, Instagram, and Discord. We're largen a Drunk Collider.

(47:56):
If you need an invite to the discord, you can
go to our website www dot largeenurdron Collider dot com
and get that invite as well as the show notes
for the episodes. I usually get them up a couple
of days after we publish. And if that all doesn't work,
or you just want to go old school, you can
email us at largenurdrom pod at gmail dot com. We

(48:18):
really do love hearing from you. We really do appreciate
you listening. You are all friends of the show and
we just adore you so much.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yes, and until next time. I'm Jonathan It's about family Strickland.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And I'm Ariel room Room Caston.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
The large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. It's music by
Kevin McLeod having comptech dot com

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