August 12, 2021 • 48 mins
Was The Suicide Squad the DCUEs saving grace or a nail in their coffin? One thing we know for sure, it was bizarre. But so is all of our news this week. Even our mashups are zany to the max!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of My
Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me as always
is the Zade and Cookie. Jonathan Strickland, Hello, Ariel, wait
to wait to support my waity. Yes, and Jonathan, I
mean like, that's I'm subverting expectations. I'm like, I'm like
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a Rhan Johnson over here. I'm I'm subverting all over
the place. Um wow. And then I get hit with
a frog in my throat. That was my fault. Hey, Ariel, Yes,
I've got a question for you, okay, and this is
a question about you, Ariel, which is if you can
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think about, like, what is the longest amount of time
you've consistently stayed in character for something? I mean, LARPNG
is like a full weekend. Yeah, so you don't break
character at that You're just in character the whole time.
So in your cabins, generally, you know, people might break
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character late at night or early in the morning or whatever.
Occasionally people break character to do a to do, like
an out of play question, or you know, when you
go to NPC, because most of the little arps I
go to, they require you to put in a certain
amount of volunteer time each game, either before, after, or during.
So a lot of people will go out and play
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the monsters that everybody else is fighting for an hour
or two each game. Um, so you kind of break character,
but you're still in another character. So I guess every
once in a while there will be a game where
they're like, oh, you don't have to volunteer during the game.
We have so many NPCs, at which point, Yeah, I'll
stay in character pretty much all weekend unless I have
to break out groovy. Maybe I don't shower in character,
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but I mean it depends, Like you know, you're playing
a barbarian. I suspect that's just you're just having an
angry shower. I mean it's I do go in character,
and I get dressed in the showers. Some noone sees
me naked, so I get out of the showering character.
I guess I'm always in character because I'm quite the character.
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What about you, I think I think we would have
to be the Rnissance festival, right, like UM, which you know,
obviously we would take breaks during the day, so it's
not like I would say I had a whole day
of being in character. But you're talking about sometimes, you know,
you might do a stretch of four to six hours
without really taking a break, and then you're just in
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at that entire time UM, which is very different. Like
Ariel and I also come from backgrounds of of doing acting,
including like stage acting, and we both get into character
in similar ways. You're not method, right, So not in
the traditional sense. No, No, I would not consider myself
a method actor. But I think every actor takes some
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and and and I've heard a whole bunch of stuff
recently about how Stanislovski, the creator of the method um,
is actually often misquoted and and his his technique is misused.
I'm taking technique classes if you can't tell UM, But
you know, I do feel like every actor needs to
put a part of themselves or they're real experiences into
a situation. Right now, I'm taking an Udah Hoggan class,
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which is all about like building your environment to evoke
emotion and reaction. So that's really interesting. But I mean,
so yeah, so every actor should have glimpses of who
they are, which I guess is why Renfest is so easy,
because like, even though I'm not Vogelomode, you're not the Admiral, Like,
there are definitely bits of us in there, so it's
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not too far of a stray from reality for us
to Also, those characters are by their nature cartoonish, which
means that we can take a couple of characteristics and
then just dial that up to eleven without having to
worry about making a fully fleshed out character, because that's
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not the point, right, We're not trying to make someone
who has all their hopes and fears and and motivations
and everything for people to discover. I mean, that's true.
You should do that with a lot of the characters
you're playing if you want people to believe them. Of course,
at Fair it's more about you know, gag getting get
out with how much time we interact with individuals. But
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I do feel like over the years, the Admiral is
pretty fleshed out. I bet if I asked you a
bazillion questions about his life, you could answer them to
some degree or I mean, you know, just like me,
the Admiral is very good at Flights of Faith and see.
So yeah, it's interesting though, because, like you know, we
we've I think a lot of people in the geek
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sphere have at least dabbled in elements of getting into character,
whether it's in productions or role playing games or cause playing.
Like I think that's a big part of the geek sphere.
It's this idea of a lot of the stuff that
geeks love are things of fantastical worlds, and there's sort
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of this you know, natural desire to be in them.
And now we're going to get into some fantastical worlds
by covering a couple of news items. Yes, and the
first is, uh, many of you probably have heard, I'm
not sure if we've actually talked about it on the show,
that we're getting a Adam's Family spinoff on Netflix called
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Wednesday about Wednesday Adam Um. But they've announced to Morticia
and Gomes Adams will be and it's Katherine's Aida Jones
and Louis Gooseman, which I think is absolutely perfect casting.
I think it's really interesting. I'm very curious to see
how that plays out, because I wouldn't have they wouldn't
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have jumped to my mind immediately, but I can't. I mean,
I'm also kind of excited to see it, which is
weird because this is a project that Tim Burton is
attached to. He's an executive producer and he's going to
be directing at least some of the episodes. Um, I
do not think he wrote it, but Burton has been
real more missed than hit for me over the past
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several years, and so I was not like super jazzed
about the announcement for a while, just thinking like that,
you know, at best, we might get something that's not
terribly offensive, and at worst we'll just get another sort
of Adams train wreck, because out of all the Adams
family stuff that's been created, there's like maybe half of
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it is is watchable, too great, and then the other
half is forgettable, too terrible. So I was ready to
write it off. But I think that might have been
premature on my part. Yeah. So the like the premise
of the story doesn't super appeal to me. Wednesday is
using her psychic ability to support thwart a monster killing spree,
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so it feels kind of super naturalish, Like I was thinking, like,
it's Wednesday Adams as Buffy Summers. Yeah, so like it
doesn't feel like the plot is very I mean, it
might be original for Adams family, it doesn't feel very
original in the overall geek sphere to me. I think
what really appeals to me. One, I think Katherine say
To Jones is a very versatile actress, and I think
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she'll she'll hit the comedy versus creepy versus you know,
elegant very well, which is the three adjectives I would
use to describe Morticia Adams. Louis Gooseman is not who
I would think that they would have picked for a
leading man. Now that they've mentioned it, Like, I feel
like he's perfect, Like he's he's good. I know he
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will nail it. He's a great actor. But like, um, yeah,
I'm I'm just super excited for the casting. You know,
the cast can make a breaker show. And I'm I'm
very I'm very eager to see how Guzman does the role.
And you know, obviously, like Ralph, Julia did such an
amazing job as Gomez went um, and I mean, obviously
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it's very hard to get around comparing anyone against that,
but I'm very eager to see what Guzman's take is
on the character. Also, I mean, they'll be like, I'm
hoping that in this show we see that Gomez and
Mortitia's devotion to one another hasn't diminished a bit, despite
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the fact that this is like twenty years, you know,
further into the timeline of your typical Adams Family story.
I feel like that's one bit of cannon that I
would not be able to get behind if it did diminish.
What are your thoughts on The Adams Family Musical. Um,
I have only heard a couple of songs from it.
I've never seen it. I heard one was it It's
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It's about being Crazy. Um, It's It's Wednesday singing to
her love interest in it um and and I thought
that the song was adorable, but I honestly don't know
enough about it too have an opinion. Like but again,
like the song I thought was adorable, but it was
also out of context, right. It was isolated, So you
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could have told me that this was a song from
any show and it wouldn't have made a difference to
me because there wasn't enough identifiable information in the song
to make me say, oh, that's from the Adams Family Musical.
Actually had to look it up because it was one
of those that came on, I had like some you know,
web based radio station of Broadway stuff playing, and it
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came on and I had no idea what it was. Yeah,
now I would have to agree there. Um, the songs
are catchy, but they don't necessarily for the most part,
don't don't stand out to me. I do think it's
interesting that we're getting a bunch of like the Monsters
and the Adams Family, and there's a whole lot of
horror jacent material coming out. Correct, Everybody I know is
already saying, hey, it's time for Halloween already. Um, they're
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saying that in June. I was like, I was joking
about that, but I part of it is that I'm
craving cooler weather, and part of it is that that
the silly spookiness of Halloween is far preferable to the
nightmarish world we live in. Fair enough, fair enough. So
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our next news item, moving right along, no good segue,
is about the Orville. And I just find this interesting
because right as like literally five different friends of mine said,
I wonder what's up with season three of Orville? Uh,
we got news about season three or Fourville. So yeah,
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so Orville, the Orville is of course Seth McFarland's television
series that is clearly inspired by Star Trek the Next Generation.
And is it. I mean, it's it's impossible to you know,
I mean he said as much, right, Like, it's like
he has a love of Star Trek. But you may
have noticed that, you know, more recent Star Trek work,
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with some exceptions, has been kind of that dark and
action oriented material, which is not what a lot of
classic Trek was really about. You know, you had moments
of action, but they weren't like action packed. It was
more about you know, figuring things out, exploration, diplomacy, that
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sort of stuff. Well, the first two seasons were on Fox,
and then there was an announcement that it was going
to move over to Hulu for season three, and then
this little thing called COVID happened and it totally messed
up the production schedule, and that's why it's been a
very long quiet period. But now we know that it's
back in production. Yep, they've actually got some clips from
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different episodes of season three, which means that it's it's
more than just yeah, we're getting back up. You know,
I'm excited for this. I feel like So when I
talk about for Escape, I always and my friends talked
about for Escape. We say how it tried to be
a serious sci fi and then eventually it found its
niche with a little bit of this eight and a
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little bit of the heart wrenching. I feel like or
Else the opposite. It tried to be family guy at
the very beginning, and then it really like found this
nice little like groove of quirky yet heartwarming, and the
further along we get, the like the more serious it gets,
and I kind of like, I like, yeah, I agree,
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I was. I wrote off the Orderville early on because
I just figured it was going to be yet another
Seth McFarland, you know, joke fest with like tons of
references thrown into substitute for actual jokes. Like I have
a very low opinion of Seth McFarland, but I also
feel like that is a show that, just like Star
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Trek the Next Generation, I mean, that show had at
least a season and a half of some ugly growing
pains before it started getting good. So like, I feel like,
I feel like the Orville is starting to really come
into its own. Also, we hear that there are apparently
talks for a potential fourth season with Hulu, even before
the third one starts to air, So that's great news
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as well. It is I know that seven McFarland was
looking at doing some other projects, so it'll be interesting
to see if if he thinks he can balance them all.
But I would definitely like at this point, would like
more seasons of Orville after this third one. What we
got a couple more quick stories to talk about. One
is that we got a preview for season three of
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Doom Patrol and it is super trippy it is, which
is right on brand for Doom Patrol. Um. Yeah, so
season two ended earlier than they expected it too, and
it ended on a real cliffing once again, kind of
like the end of our skip. But to our listeners
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have not watched it. It all comes back to for escape.
I'm sorry, I'm rewatching it, so it's on it's on
my mind right now. But it ended just like in
this place where you're like, really, this is where it ends.
And thankfully this new trailer like a little bit says Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna resolve this, but also in a
way that's like, oh, you have no clue it look
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like I can't follow anything in Australia. It's got tons
of really trippy visuals and like it's all disconnected. But
I'll also say that I found it incredibly appealing. Like
I just found Doom Patrol is again, Like there's certain
things in d C that I think are are really
hitting their stride and Doom Patrol is one of those things.
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And you know me, I've been incredibly critical about d CS,
you know, media outreach, whether it's films or series or whatever,
but I feel Doom Patrol really is consistently interesting and
entertaining and sometimes well often extremely twisted. Yeah, yeah, it
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definitely you have to you have to know that what
you're getting into, I think, to enjoy it going in.
But um, I've I've enjoyed it way more than I
anticipated I would um, and I'm very much looking forward
to it. If you like doing Patrol, you should definitely
check out the Neutril. The last thing we're gonna talk
about before we go into heart break is that Idris
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Elba has signed on for the Sonic the Hedgehog two
movies as Knuckles. Yeah, he posted he tweeted out a
picture close up of Knuckles is spiked glove with the
message knock knock and hashtag Sonic movie to hashtag knuckles,
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which then got more than a quarter of million likes.
In fact, I think somewhere it's somewhere in like the
four thousand range at this point, um, and more than
a thousand comments because uh, the Sonic fans are crazy. Now.
I will say this, like indras aba Insoba is like
a phenomenal actor, and he's a great voice actor too.
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He's done voice acting for other projects, So I think
that this is like, it's not the casting I would
have imagined. But I'm not mad at it. I just
mostly find it so absurd to see the reaction, right,
like just the the enormous reaction to the announcement. Yeah,
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me too, especially after and we're going to talk about
this after after the break after you know, suicide Squad,
where some people are saying that like Idris Elba is
not a huge box office strade. To me, he is.
He's just such a phenomenal actor and um, very versatile.
But because of that, sometimes I forget that he does
voice acting and he has a goofy side, like I
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can barely remember he was in Cats. Uh, so y'all
have tried so hard to forget hats. You know, he's
he's a sense of humor. It's just that like he's
obviously he's known for playing sort of dead pans, serious
and sometimes extremely intense characters like that's that's like his resume.
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But the man himself has clearly got a real sense
of humor. Like if you ever see him in interview
shows and stuff, you really see see that come out. Yeah,
he does a great rendition if Baby got Back, I'll
take your word for that. That's the one I have
not seen. Well. On that note, we are going to
take a quick break and when we get back, we're
going to discuss some Suicide Squad. Yes, okay, Ariel, did
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you watch the new The Suicide Squad film? I did
watch the Suicide Squad film. Uh. I double featured it
with another movie that came out just recently called The
Paper Tigers. Interesting. I only saw The Suicide Squad. I
watched it on Friday, and I thought I couldn't decide
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if I liked it or not. Um I thought it
was I thought it was a well made movie. I
thought it was an entertaining movie in many places. But
I couldn't figure out if. I definitely think it's miles
better than the Suicide Squad film from two thousand sixteen,
like Night and Day better, but I don't know if
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I like it. So I think your review of it,
because you told me when you watched it, um, and
then I asked you some questions prepared me, prepared my
mindset going into it so that I thoroughly I expected
all of the gore. I expected the bizarreness. So in
both of those respects, it actually wasn't as bizarre or
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as gory as I anticipated. King also in half long ways,
but yeah, oh yeah, I mean there is gore, but
for some reason I expected a lot more. Um. I
mean it is gory. It is just gory. If you
haven't watched it yet, it's gory and it is bizarre.
And you know, I saw the review saying that there
was some full frontal male nudity, and there was less
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of that than I expected as well. So um, all
in all, I think I was like I was going
in at eleven and I came out at a nine.
But that's okay. I really enjoyed it. Standard to d
C EU movies, I felt like it was a little
long and and had a lot of a lot of
story going into it. That being said, I feel like
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James Gunn did it in a way that was very interesting,
and when the extra act at the end of the
movie came on or started, I was excited for it
as opposed to thinking, oh my god, is this movie
so there there are a lot of things that I
think we're done extremely well in the movie. But yeah,
one of the things that that would kind of irritated me.
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Not irritated, but just like, I question the reasoning for
having that be part of the story is that you
do kind of have your own little Harley Quinn featurette
buried in the middle of this movie. Did you watch
the pitch meeting for it? Know? Is that what they
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talked about YouTube among many movie inside the Suicide Squad movie? Yeah, yeah,
they said, she needs her own movie. Well she already
got one, Well she gets another little When I was watching,
I was like this, like, it's good, it's entertaining, it's
a good but it feels almost like it could have
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been a separate thing that would exist as its own
featurette that is related to the film, right, Like you
could have taken all of that out, Uh, you still
would have had to figure out a way of getting
Harley with the other characters, because you know, for those
who don't know, the movie opens up with a a
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a surprise and characters are not necessarily with each other
at the beginning, and they have to meet up later.
And I don't want to spoil anything because it is
worth seeing. Also, like it's James Gunn going back to
some horror elements, which you know he did Slither, which
is a phenomenal horror movie. And I feel like this
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has a lot of D n A in common with Slither. Um,
It's like, I still don't know if I like it.
It's definitely I can definitely recognize the good parts of it.
I mean, I enjoy I thought it was very entertaining. Um,
I really like so one of the things that he did.
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And I don't think this is a spoiler, but if
you're worried that it is, just fair warning is instead
of trying to explore lane everything at the beginning, just
every once in a while we get character's backstory. Um.
And well, I knew that that was a device that
James Gunn was using in the movie to make us
relate to the characters. I almost didn't mind it. Um.
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It was like a nice little breather from all of
the gore and the action in the zanies. So um,
I I really enjoyed that part of it. And I
connected with the characters. I didn't think I will, and
it was definitely Yeah, I connected with a character that
was the big bad. Because there's one line, one stupid
line the James Gunn puts in the stupid movie that
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makes you feel bad for the big bad. Okay, but anyway, Um, really,
there's really one villain in the Suicide Squad, and it's
not the giant starfish monster. See. I I feel like
there's a few villains. There's there's one villain, and that's
the United States governments. That's the real villain of the
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Suicide Squad. That's not a spoiler, because I mean that's
the whole like premise, right, you have the government using
villains as as as cannon fodder and to just throw
it problems that they otherwise can't do. And because their villains,
it gives the government plausible deniability to say, oh, those
are villains being villains and if they die, well they're
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bad guys. So you kind of want them to die anyway,
like you you get that the United States is like
the worst um the government. There was one, Yeah, there
was one death that I was exceptionally sad about. I'm sure, like,
but it was I bet it's the death that I
felt was completely telegraphed by the trailers. And we'll talk
about off the show so that we don't Yeah yeah,
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but also I mean right away if like, it's not
a surprise to anybody who actually watches d C stuff
and cartoons and reads comics and stuff. But right away
they dispelled the the image of a man of Waller
being you know, an upstanding here motivated women. She's she's
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a psychopath in this movie. Um yeah, like this is
their their choices that James Gunn makes that I think
are phenomenal and are really really great. I don't know,
maybe the film just didn't quite feel cohesive enough to me.
Something about it just didn't stick with me. But that
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being said, all the individual performances are great. Margot Robbie
continues to absolutely slay it as Harley Quinn. She is
so good. But everyone is fantastic, and you know, getting
to to feel empathy for characters like Rat Catcher two
and Polka Dot Man. It's pretty phenomenal. It is now
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it's really interesting because you don't know if you like it,
but a whole bunch of people did. It got amazing
critical response, right like in the nineties on the critical
response is great, but once again we saw review bombing
going on as well, so that the audience score was
different from what the critics score was. And generally it
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sounds like it was fans of the Snyder verse who
are continuing to be upset that d C hasn't like
tripled down on the Snyder approach to the d C EU,
and so they were review bombing the movie before it
hadn't even come out. Do you think that's the reason
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that the box office is so low because that's been
the big news? Is that Suicide Squad? You know, well,
it was highest grossing during the pandemic for a rated
R movie, but it's still underperformed what they were for
because it brought in twenty six and a half million
dollars domestically over opening weekend, which is pretty low these days. Okay,
I think that this is a an issue that is
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far too complicated to boil it down to a single
or even one or two causes, right, because so much
stuff is happening right now that impacts box office. We
are in the middle of a surge of the pandemic
where we've got like the delta and potentially the lambda
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variants of coronavirus taking holds of certain regions like Georgia,
where Ariel and I live, are really being hit hard
right now. Like there are hospitals in our state that
are turning away ambulances because they have no room in
the ICU to bring anyone else in. So, like that's
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you know that that was what we were worried about
at the beginning of the pandemic of last year, was
that we would overwhelm the hospitals. Well that's happening again.
So in that environment, I assume there are a lot
of people who are, you know, maybe a little reluctant
to go to the theater and potentially become part of
the problem. Uh. Then you also had the like us,
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we were going to see it in the theater. And
then you had the fact that it was released simultaneously
on HBO Max, which is you know what Warner Brothers
said they were going to do um And so you've
got some people saying, well, of course, if people are
already subscribed to HBO Max, why would they pay extra
to go see it in the theater. I mean, apart
from the fact that you know, movies are meant to
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be seen on big screens. But I think most of us, uh, like,
we measure that against convenience and safety and we make
our decisions and like Ariel, I decided to watch it
at home. Um, so that's part of it. I think
that's so. I think there's just a lot of different
elements that all together mean that it's a lower take
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in the box office. That being said, Black Widow was
released in theaters and on Disney Plus and still made
eighty million at the theaters. So but I feel like
the difference there is if you wanted to watch it
on Disney Plus, you had to pay thirty That's true.
You did have to pay, which I did and I
didn't mind doing because again, that would be to less
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than two movie movie tickets for myself and my husband. Atlanta.
That's true because I think like the national average ticket
prices somewhere around like eleven or twelve dollars, but that's
not the case in Atlanta. No, Atlanta's like fifteen and
twenty at least to your point. You know it with
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HBO Max you don't have to pay extra so as
you as you point out, that is very different from
The Black Widow. And even if you do by HBO
Max to to watch the movie, which I'm sure some
people did, if you keep it, you know, then they
get that additional revenue. But how much of that actually
goes into the movie numbers. You know, there's been a
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big kerfuffle between studios and the actors and the unions
and all this because they're still trying to figure it out.
On Matt Damon's Hot Ones interview, he actually talked about
how streaming effects uh movie movie takes and how that
factors into what kind of movies are made. That's why
we're getting a lot more act shouldn't a big blockbuster,
he said, because to do something like cider house rules
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are good while hunting where it's it's more of like
a casual drama. I guess I would say, like you
have to make all of the marketing, all of the
production money back, and now you've got half the box office.
Because things are going to streaming more quickly, you don't
have the DVD, blu ray VHS sales anymore, and so
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it's a lot bigger of a gamble to do a
smaller movie like that. So it's just the industry is
still figuring it out. And what we're doing is we're
seeing we're seeing a massive disruption that began as soon
as we started seeing the first streaming services. And obviously
Netflix has had to deal with this because they still
produce a ton of original content, but you know, in
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order to grow that, either need to get more subscribers
or they have to start charging more per month. And
I think everybody else is starting to come to grips
with that same reality. And as you point out, Aerial,
it gets really hard then to associate the amount of
revenue your your business is generating with specific products, right Like,
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if if it's a subscription based service, then it's pretty
hard for you to make the argument of yeah, but
the people who are subscribed to it, because the suicide squad,
right like, you can't really make that argument. So it
does mean that we're seeing a transformation in the business
side of Hollywood, which ultimately could mean a massive change
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in the types of films we see. And that's not
necessarily a bad thing. It does mean that, you know,
there might be a time where stuff we've gotten used
to seeing just isn't coming out as much anymore. But
people are endlessly creative and there are an unlimited number
of stories to tell. So I am confident that what
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however this does shake out, we're still going to have
incredible films. They just might be made in a much
different way than the way we've become used to over
the last decade or so. I agree, And it's it's
it's change, you know, from the last decade. So it'll
be interesting to see what's next. Yes, now what's next
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for us is we're going to take a break, but
when we come back, we're gonna have an interesting mash
up between some wacky Shenanigan causing siblings and some zombes
zombes zombe. Let's go to break, all right. Well, first
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of all, my apologies to the Cranberries. Um, no apologies
to me. I mean, if I have to apologize, you
are real. I gotta apologize to eybody else who listened.
So that's just gonna take up my whole day. You
did it surprisingly well, Yeah, so are two of our
our mashups today we're doing because these are kind of
related to news items that we did not cover at
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the beginning, but we wanted to go over very quickly.
One of those is that before too long, we're going
to get Night of the Animated Dead and animated film
adaptation of the classic zombie movie Neither Living Dead, which
is in public domain. There was a mess up with
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that film where the copyright notice wasn't properly filed and displayed,
so Neither Living Dead's in public domain. Literally, anyone can
screen that anywhere, anytime, you can charge money for it.
It's there's there's no copyright on Neither Living Dead, and
we're getting an animated film in which they're going to
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add in some stuff that wasn't in the original movie.
It is interesting that it's going to be like in
in streaming services, and also it's going to be on
Blu ray and DVD. I guess some people still buy those, um,
I mean I do if it's like you can't guarantee
you're always going to be able to get the movie
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you want for free online, so I sometimes by I
just don't have space for stuff anymore, so I don't
buy those things to clutter up my house. But yeah,
it's a that's that's coming out. So that's one of
the two items we're going to take. And then the
other one is Animaniacs season two trailer is out. Um.
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I you know, I'm still working through the season one
of Animaniacs. Um. And I felt like the season one
was hitted miss and I'm really hoping that season two
finds its scroop a lot more. I know they tested
out a few new characters and segments in season one.
Season two still looks like it's banking a little bit
on the gross base level humor a little bit um,
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but not too much. Wackos I pops out of his
head at once, that's true. Yeah, the season two trailers
really more of a teaser, It's not there's not a
whole lot of content to it. Um. Yeah. And it's
interesting because when I think of Animaniacs, I think of
the original run where there were a lot more characters,
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uh and segments, right, and then they essentially boiled it
down to the two that were the most popular, which
were the Warner brothers and their sister and Pinky in
the brain. Um, So we don't have like characters like
the good feathers and all that anymore, which you know,
I realized that shows need to grow and move on,
and we talked about often how we don't want shows
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to just keep rehashing the old things. I wouldn't mind
a Rita and run musical. Maybe I feel like a
lot of the stuff they have cut out kind of
needed cutting because they were the least consistent. Thank goodness,
they don't have Katie Kaboom in the anymore. Um. Yeah,
there's certain certain segments that were just terrible. But that
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being said, we are now going to mash up the
classic NI the Living Dead and animaniacs. Uh. And for
those who aren't aware, Night the Living Dead was not
the first zombie movie. It's not like it was the
original zombie film of all time, but it is. I
would argue the zombie film that's set up certain tropes
that we still see today, which are things like, you know,
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especially for slow shuffling zombies, they're the recently dead. Um,
they hunger for human flesh. Killing them usually requires that
you have to want. In DII The Living Dead, it
actually involves setting them on fire or destroying the brain. Um.
But like these are little things that would that planted
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the seeds for what we think of when we get
to movie zombies. Um, and do you want me to
go first? Or do you want to go first? Areal?
I'll go first, all right, So I'm gonna apologize for
any time I attempt a Warner sibling voice. It's not
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going to be good. This is called Night of the
Living Dot. All right, Yacko, Wacko and Dot were doing
their huge you know, running around the Warner movie lot
one sunny afternoon, playing their daily game of hide and seek.
They had just tagged an unsuspecting Ralph the security guard
and Dr Scratch and Sniff, and had reached their home base,
the water Tower, except one of the Warner siblings was
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not alone. Look, said Wacko, I found a pet. Can
I keep him? Can I keep him? Can I keep him?
As he held up a gaunt, moaning, grayish small figure,
what is it? Said Dot? Some sort of chihuahua, asked Yacko.
I don't know, but I love him, said Wacko, kissing
the figure's face with a big wet lick. Yacko and
Dot agreed to let Wacco keep him as long as
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Wacko promised to housebreak it. And Wacko promised. Wacko named
the pet Stinky because of the smell. The next day,
when it was time to play their daily game of
hide and seek, Wacko was dragging. When asked what was wrong,
he said he didn't feel so good. He had been
up all night with Stinky, who was being a naughty
pet by biting him and refusing to eat his healthy
birthday cake for dinner and all honesty. Wacko didn't look
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too good either, but he rallied and they began their game.
Wacko saw it and found Yacko first, but instead of
tagging him, he bit him. Yacko said, yeah, hey, bro,
what gives and Wacko just moaned. But fair was fair?
So now Yacko was also it, and they saw it
for Dot, but Jacko also started feeling not so good,
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and he started feeling hungry. What Wacko was feeling hungry too,
But Wacko is always hungry, so nothing seemed off there.
Next day ran across Chicken Boo while they were looking
for Dot and thought, oh chicken, and they bait him too.
Then Boo joined the search. Along the way, they passed
the famous Warner movie Graveyard, where they could see a
brother and sister playing with a bunch of those ugly, gray,
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moaning puppies. Yacko said, oh, more puppies, because he's not
failing good and opened the gates to the studio lot,
and the puppies rushed in. Soon almost everyone was tagged Rita, Run, Slappy, Skippy, Hello, Nurse,
and even Brain well everyone except Dot, being the clever one.
She realized what was happening that all the puppies were
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actually zombies and locked herself in the water tower for safety,
thinking herself now the only Hide and Seek survivor on
the lot. All of a sudden, she heard a norf
at the water tower door. Turns out Pinky had escaped
the clutches of the zombie Horde as well, so she
led him in. The Warner Brother executives high and safe
in their tower were powerless to fix the situation, having
given up their rights to the Armies of the Dead
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on Netflix. However, they knew the show must go on
and tried to spin it as a new Animaniacs, darker universe.
They even rewrote some of the songs come join the
and They're surviving, Sister Dot, and You're not as man,
You're a zombie boo. But those songs didn't really catch
on well all, except for Where's Pinky? We want brains Now.
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Legend has it that Dot and Pinky are still up
there in the water tower fighting their time, hoping someday
they can safely emerge. The Warner Brothers studio now claims
it was all a marketing ploy and there wasn't really
a zombie outbreak. You can't tour that part of the
studio lot anymore, though, if you want to risk it.
You can't sneak in through the Warner Movie Graveyard, but
venture into the zany to the max at your own risk.
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Dunt dunt dunk. I like it very, very dark and whimsical.
Um mine is called Georgia Merrow's Night of the Maniacs.
I'm Sorry and the Maniacs. Barbara and Johnny have a problem.
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They're on their way to visit the grave of their
late father, but the cemetery is a three hour drive
from their home, and then they have to drive the
three hours back. Meanwhile, a storm appears to be brewing
and the car radio has cut out. They get to
the cemetery and after some back and forth, bar Bra
shows a little discomfort. Johnny, amused at how his sister
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finds the graveyard unsettling, tells his sister there coming to
get you, Barbara, and points to a trio of shambling
figures in the distance. Stop it, Johnny yells Barbara, and Johnny,
growing board of the juvenile game, turns to head back
to the car. But that's when he sees that between
him and the car are the three figures, and they
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are bounding toward him, yelling boying gee, boying gi boying gee.
Next thing you know, they've pounced on him and Barbara, terrified,
runs toward a farmhouse as the three weird creatures poke,
prad and latch onto Johnny. Who are you, screams Johnny.
Where the Warner brothers says one and the Warner sister
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says another. I'm Jacko, says the first one. I'm Lacko
says a shorter one with a hat, and I'm Dot
says the third. And you're our new best friend, yells Jacko.
Johnny her fight tries to run, but because he has
a Warner brother and a Warner sister grabbing each of
his legs, he loses his balance and falls, hitting his
head on a gravestone. He has clearly passed on. Yikes,
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says Wacko. I wonder what's eating him? I suggest we do,
says Dot, pulling out a knife and fork. Ah so
it's that kind of movie, says Yaco, and the three
ravenously descend upon Johnny. Meanwhile, Barbara makes it to the
farmhouse and sees that no one's home. She wanders around,
picking up a phone, but the line is dead, and
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as is a person in one of the rooms upstairs.
It's pretty unsettling. A man named Ben arrives at the
house and tries to talk with Barbara, but she's clearly
catatonic from fear. Ben sets about trying to secure the house,
already aware of the danger of some maniacs on the loose.
I'm sorry animaniacs. As he is boarding up a door, Barbara,
here's brains, brains, and then whoops, sorry, I'm Brian point
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and she looks over and sees a pair of mice
shambling toward her inside the house. She lets a scream
and scrabbles away. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Asks the shorter mouse with the really big head. I
think so Brian says the taller mouse. But if Zack
Snyder directs a reboot of the sequel, won't the film
be considered derivative action movie. Barbara runs from the room
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just as Ben comes around the corner, and the door
opens up, and up from the basement come two men,
one slightly older and one younger. Harry is the older one,
Tom's the younger one, and they usher the pair downstairs
into the basement, and then we've got this really long
discussion inside the basement between the various characters as to
whether it's better to stay down there or to make
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a run for it using a truck that's parked outside
the farmhouse. I mean this, this talk goes on for
a long time, honestly, in fact, long enough that we
kind of forget about the maniacs. I'm sorry, the animaniacs outside,
but there's a lot of interpersonal drama, so it's okay.
The discussion is broken up when a window to the
basement breaks in and in fly three shabby looking pigeons
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who talk like gangsters for some reason, and the humans
scream and they run up the stairs and like one
or two of them die. But I didn't bother naming them,
so that's fine. They get upstairs, and first they find
out that, you know, there are a few other maniacs
i'm sorry, animaniacs to worry about. There's this oblivious toddler
who's destroying everything she touches, and her extremely anxious dog.
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There's a pair of squirrels, one who is trying out
jokes that wouldn't have gone over in the cat's skills
back in the batt old days. And there's a dog
and cats singing about stuff. Plus there are others, and
what follows is a zany sequence in which the humans
try to escape the maniacs I'm sorry, animaniacs, and and
they the animaniacs picked them off one by one or
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sometimes two by two with cartoonish acts of violence. Only
the humans are in the real world, so while the
violence is cartoonish, the outcome is extreme, really realistic, And
there is a lot of body horror stuff going on here, y'all.
And then Yaco tries to calm everyone down until Dot
yells everybody quiet, and the maniacs I'm sorry, the animaniacs
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and the remaining humans stopped to look at him, and
then the music starts out of nowhere. I've seen every
zombie flick from Versus to the Day of the Dead.
I've watched George ra Merrow tell us we need to
hit them in the head. Jeffrey comes to make corpses
moving the film The re Endamater, and I saw Killian's
junk in the beginning of twenty eight days later. Bill
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Murray had a cameo that made us laugh in Zombie Land,
and Seth Green kind of had a zombie fist in
the film Idol Hands. If you're in South Korea, beware
of the train to Boosson and if you're in the Winchester,
say hello to my good friend Sean. Warm Bodies use
some zombies to give us Romeo and Juliet. Planet Terra
had zombies but wasn't really grindhouse yet. If there's a
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zombie outbreak, don't go to the mall, fur shopping spree
or squish bugs and noncy de vi. Profanare il sandel
more Tea. It's a Italian zombie movie. But before you
Echo can continue his modern zombie movie song, his head
disappears and we hear the crack of a rifle shot
and we cut outside and there's this mob of humans
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out there, and they just open up on that farmhouse
and what follows is a massacre of everyone in their
Animaniac and human alike, and then the mob pats themselves
on the back after a job well done. And as
the movie closes, we see two tiny figures slip out
from the house. We have to get out of here
and prepare for tomorrow night. Why why we gotta do
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tomorrow night, Brian, the same thing we do every night,
Pinky try to take over the world. Evil music sting credits. Jeez,
and you said mine was dark. I set mine in
the world of night Living. No, it's true, It's true.
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It was really good. And at points I was like
when you started, I'm like, I'm not sure this wasn't
already in Animaniac's episode. But no, they don't get they
never go quite that dark. But it was brilliant. I
loved your song. Thank you for explaining. The Italian The
Italians really took the zombie film genre to heart after
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The Living Dead um and made a lot of zombie movies,
including one in which a man fights a zombie shark.
That sounds brilliant to me. It is. Let put this way,
it's unforgettable. Yeah. Well, if you can't find our mashups unforgettable,
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Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me as always
is the Zade and Cookie. Jonathan Strickland, Hello, Ariel, wait
to wait to support my waity. Yes, and Jonathan, I
mean like, that's I'm subverting expectations. I'm like, I'm like
(00:48):
a Rhan Johnson over here. I'm I'm subverting all over
the place. Um wow. And then I get hit with
a frog in my throat. That was my fault. Hey, Ariel, Yes,
I've got a question for you, okay, and this is
a question about you, Ariel, which is if you can
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think about, like, what is the longest amount of time
you've consistently stayed in character for something? I mean, LARPNG
is like a full weekend. Yeah, so you don't break
character at that You're just in character the whole time.
So in your cabins, generally, you know, people might break
(01:34):
character late at night or early in the morning or whatever.
Occasionally people break character to do a to do, like
an out of play question, or you know, when you
go to NPC, because most of the little arps I
go to, they require you to put in a certain
amount of volunteer time each game, either before, after, or during.
So a lot of people will go out and play
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the monsters that everybody else is fighting for an hour
or two each game. Um, so you kind of break character,
but you're still in another character. So I guess every
once in a while there will be a game where
they're like, oh, you don't have to volunteer during the game.
We have so many NPCs, at which point, Yeah, I'll
stay in character pretty much all weekend unless I have
to break out groovy. Maybe I don't shower in character,
(02:15):
but I mean it depends, Like you know, you're playing
a barbarian. I suspect that's just you're just having an
angry shower. I mean it's I do go in character,
and I get dressed in the showers. Some noone sees
me naked, so I get out of the showering character.
I guess I'm always in character because I'm quite the character.
(02:38):
What about you, I think I think we would have
to be the Rnissance festival, right, like UM, which you know,
obviously we would take breaks during the day, so it's
not like I would say I had a whole day
of being in character. But you're talking about sometimes, you know,
you might do a stretch of four to six hours
without really taking a break, and then you're just in
(03:00):
at that entire time UM, which is very different. Like
Ariel and I also come from backgrounds of of doing acting,
including like stage acting, and we both get into character
in similar ways. You're not method, right, So not in
the traditional sense. No, No, I would not consider myself
a method actor. But I think every actor takes some
(03:22):
and and and I've heard a whole bunch of stuff
recently about how Stanislovski, the creator of the method um,
is actually often misquoted and and his his technique is misused.
I'm taking technique classes if you can't tell UM, But
you know, I do feel like every actor needs to
put a part of themselves or they're real experiences into
a situation. Right now, I'm taking an Udah Hoggan class,
(03:43):
which is all about like building your environment to evoke
emotion and reaction. So that's really interesting. But I mean,
so yeah, so every actor should have glimpses of who
they are, which I guess is why Renfest is so easy,
because like, even though I'm not Vogelomode, you're not the Admiral, Like,
there are definitely bits of us in there, so it's
(04:04):
not too far of a stray from reality for us
to Also, those characters are by their nature cartoonish, which
means that we can take a couple of characteristics and
then just dial that up to eleven without having to
worry about making a fully fleshed out character, because that's
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not the point, right, We're not trying to make someone
who has all their hopes and fears and and motivations
and everything for people to discover. I mean, that's true.
You should do that with a lot of the characters
you're playing if you want people to believe them. Of course,
at Fair it's more about you know, gag getting get
out with how much time we interact with individuals. But
(04:45):
I do feel like over the years, the Admiral is
pretty fleshed out. I bet if I asked you a
bazillion questions about his life, you could answer them to
some degree or I mean, you know, just like me,
the Admiral is very good at Flights of Faith and see.
So yeah, it's interesting though, because, like you know, we
we've I think a lot of people in the geek
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sphere have at least dabbled in elements of getting into character,
whether it's in productions or role playing games or cause playing.
Like I think that's a big part of the geek sphere.
It's this idea of a lot of the stuff that
geeks love are things of fantastical worlds, and there's sort
(05:27):
of this you know, natural desire to be in them.
And now we're going to get into some fantastical worlds
by covering a couple of news items. Yes, and the
first is, uh, many of you probably have heard, I'm
not sure if we've actually talked about it on the show,
that we're getting a Adam's Family spinoff on Netflix called
(05:48):
Wednesday about Wednesday Adam Um. But they've announced to Morticia
and Gomes Adams will be and it's Katherine's Aida Jones
and Louis Gooseman, which I think is absolutely perfect casting.
I think it's really interesting. I'm very curious to see
how that plays out, because I wouldn't have they wouldn't
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have jumped to my mind immediately, but I can't. I mean,
I'm also kind of excited to see it, which is
weird because this is a project that Tim Burton is
attached to. He's an executive producer and he's going to
be directing at least some of the episodes. Um, I
do not think he wrote it, but Burton has been
real more missed than hit for me over the past
(06:30):
several years, and so I was not like super jazzed
about the announcement for a while, just thinking like that,
you know, at best, we might get something that's not
terribly offensive, and at worst we'll just get another sort
of Adams train wreck, because out of all the Adams
family stuff that's been created, there's like maybe half of
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it is is watchable, too great, and then the other
half is forgettable, too terrible. So I was ready to
write it off. But I think that might have been
premature on my part. Yeah. So the like the premise
of the story doesn't super appeal to me. Wednesday is
using her psychic ability to support thwart a monster killing spree,
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so it feels kind of super naturalish, Like I was thinking, like,
it's Wednesday Adams as Buffy Summers. Yeah, so like it
doesn't feel like the plot is very I mean, it
might be original for Adams family, it doesn't feel very
original in the overall geek sphere to me. I think
what really appeals to me. One, I think Katherine say
To Jones is a very versatile actress, and I think
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she'll she'll hit the comedy versus creepy versus you know,
elegant very well, which is the three adjectives I would
use to describe Morticia Adams. Louis Gooseman is not who
I would think that they would have picked for a
leading man. Now that they've mentioned it, Like, I feel
like he's perfect, Like he's he's good. I know he
(07:53):
will nail it. He's a great actor. But like, um, yeah,
I'm I'm just super excited for the casting. You know,
the cast can make a breaker show. And I'm I'm
very I'm very eager to see how Guzman does the role.
And you know, obviously, like Ralph, Julia did such an
amazing job as Gomez went um, and I mean, obviously
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it's very hard to get around comparing anyone against that,
but I'm very eager to see what Guzman's take is
on the character. Also, I mean, they'll be like, I'm
hoping that in this show we see that Gomez and
Mortitia's devotion to one another hasn't diminished a bit, despite
(08:36):
the fact that this is like twenty years, you know,
further into the timeline of your typical Adams Family story.
I feel like that's one bit of cannon that I
would not be able to get behind if it did diminish.
What are your thoughts on The Adams Family Musical. Um,
I have only heard a couple of songs from it.
I've never seen it. I heard one was it It's
(08:57):
It's about being Crazy. Um, It's It's Wednesday singing to
her love interest in it um and and I thought
that the song was adorable, but I honestly don't know
enough about it too have an opinion. Like but again,
like the song I thought was adorable, but it was
also out of context, right. It was isolated, So you
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could have told me that this was a song from
any show and it wouldn't have made a difference to
me because there wasn't enough identifiable information in the song
to make me say, oh, that's from the Adams Family Musical.
Actually had to look it up because it was one
of those that came on, I had like some you know,
web based radio station of Broadway stuff playing, and it
(09:43):
came on and I had no idea what it was. Yeah,
now I would have to agree there. Um, the songs
are catchy, but they don't necessarily for the most part,
don't don't stand out to me. I do think it's
interesting that we're getting a bunch of like the Monsters
and the Adams Family, and there's a whole lot of
horror jacent material coming out. Correct, Everybody I know is
already saying, hey, it's time for Halloween already. Um, they're
(10:06):
saying that in June. I was like, I was joking
about that, but I part of it is that I'm
craving cooler weather, and part of it is that that
the silly spookiness of Halloween is far preferable to the
nightmarish world we live in. Fair enough, fair enough. So
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our next news item, moving right along, no good segue,
is about the Orville. And I just find this interesting
because right as like literally five different friends of mine said,
I wonder what's up with season three of Orville? Uh,
we got news about season three or Fourville. So yeah,
(10:47):
so Orville, the Orville is of course Seth McFarland's television
series that is clearly inspired by Star Trek the Next Generation.
And is it. I mean, it's it's impossible to you know,
I mean he said as much, right, Like, it's like
he has a love of Star Trek. But you may
have noticed that, you know, more recent Star Trek work,
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with some exceptions, has been kind of that dark and
action oriented material, which is not what a lot of
classic Trek was really about. You know, you had moments
of action, but they weren't like action packed. It was
more about you know, figuring things out, exploration, diplomacy, that
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sort of stuff. Well, the first two seasons were on Fox,
and then there was an announcement that it was going
to move over to Hulu for season three, and then
this little thing called COVID happened and it totally messed
up the production schedule, and that's why it's been a
very long quiet period. But now we know that it's
back in production. Yep, they've actually got some clips from
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different episodes of season three, which means that it's it's
more than just yeah, we're getting back up. You know,
I'm excited for this. I feel like So when I
talk about for Escape, I always and my friends talked
about for Escape. We say how it tried to be
a serious sci fi and then eventually it found its
niche with a little bit of this eight and a
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little bit of the heart wrenching. I feel like or
Else the opposite. It tried to be family guy at
the very beginning, and then it really like found this
nice little like groove of quirky yet heartwarming, and the
further along we get, the like the more serious it gets,
and I kind of like, I like, yeah, I agree,
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I was. I wrote off the Orderville early on because
I just figured it was going to be yet another
Seth McFarland, you know, joke fest with like tons of
references thrown into substitute for actual jokes. Like I have
a very low opinion of Seth McFarland, but I also
feel like that is a show that, just like Star
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Trek the Next Generation, I mean, that show had at
least a season and a half of some ugly growing
pains before it started getting good. So like, I feel like,
I feel like the Orville is starting to really come
into its own. Also, we hear that there are apparently
talks for a potential fourth season with Hulu, even before
the third one starts to air, So that's great news
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as well. It is I know that seven McFarland was
looking at doing some other projects, so it'll be interesting
to see if if he thinks he can balance them all.
But I would definitely like at this point, would like
more seasons of Orville after this third one. What we
got a couple more quick stories to talk about. One
is that we got a preview for season three of
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Doom Patrol and it is super trippy it is, which
is right on brand for Doom Patrol. Um. Yeah, so
season two ended earlier than they expected it too, and
it ended on a real cliffing once again, kind of
like the end of our skip. But to our listeners
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have not watched it. It all comes back to for escape.
I'm sorry, I'm rewatching it, so it's on it's on
my mind right now. But it ended just like in
this place where you're like, really, this is where it ends.
And thankfully this new trailer like a little bit says Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna resolve this, but also in a
way that's like, oh, you have no clue it look
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like I can't follow anything in Australia. It's got tons
of really trippy visuals and like it's all disconnected. But
I'll also say that I found it incredibly appealing. Like
I just found Doom Patrol is again, Like there's certain
things in d C that I think are are really
hitting their stride and Doom Patrol is one of those things.
(14:45):
And you know me, I've been incredibly critical about d CS,
you know, media outreach, whether it's films or series or whatever,
but I feel Doom Patrol really is consistently interesting and
entertaining and sometimes well often extremely twisted. Yeah, yeah, it
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definitely you have to you have to know that what
you're getting into, I think, to enjoy it going in.
But um, I've I've enjoyed it way more than I
anticipated I would um, and I'm very much looking forward
to it. If you like doing Patrol, you should definitely
check out the Neutril. The last thing we're gonna talk
about before we go into heart break is that Idris
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Elba has signed on for the Sonic the Hedgehog two
movies as Knuckles. Yeah, he posted he tweeted out a
picture close up of Knuckles is spiked glove with the
message knock knock and hashtag Sonic movie to hashtag knuckles,
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which then got more than a quarter of million likes.
In fact, I think somewhere it's somewhere in like the
four thousand range at this point, um, and more than
a thousand comments because uh, the Sonic fans are crazy. Now.
I will say this, like indras aba Insoba is like
a phenomenal actor, and he's a great voice actor too.
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He's done voice acting for other projects, So I think
that this is like, it's not the casting I would
have imagined. But I'm not mad at it. I just
mostly find it so absurd to see the reaction, right,
like just the the enormous reaction to the announcement. Yeah,
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me too, especially after and we're going to talk about
this after after the break after you know, suicide Squad,
where some people are saying that like Idris Elba is
not a huge box office strade. To me, he is.
He's just such a phenomenal actor and um, very versatile.
But because of that, sometimes I forget that he does
voice acting and he has a goofy side, like I
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can barely remember he was in Cats. Uh, so y'all
have tried so hard to forget hats. You know, he's
he's a sense of humor. It's just that like he's
obviously he's known for playing sort of dead pans, serious
and sometimes extremely intense characters like that's that's like his resume.
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But the man himself has clearly got a real sense
of humor. Like if you ever see him in interview
shows and stuff, you really see see that come out. Yeah,
he does a great rendition if Baby got Back, I'll
take your word for that. That's the one I have
not seen. Well. On that note, we are going to
take a quick break and when we get back, we're
going to discuss some Suicide Squad. Yes, okay, Ariel, did
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you watch the new The Suicide Squad film? I did
watch the Suicide Squad film. Uh. I double featured it
with another movie that came out just recently called The
Paper Tigers. Interesting. I only saw The Suicide Squad. I
watched it on Friday, and I thought I couldn't decide
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if I liked it or not. Um I thought it
was I thought it was a well made movie. I
thought it was an entertaining movie in many places. But
I couldn't figure out if. I definitely think it's miles
better than the Suicide Squad film from two thousand sixteen,
like Night and Day better, but I don't know if
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I like it. So I think your review of it,
because you told me when you watched it, um, and
then I asked you some questions prepared me, prepared my
mindset going into it so that I thoroughly I expected
all of the gore. I expected the bizarreness. So in
both of those respects, it actually wasn't as bizarre or
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as gory as I anticipated. King also in half long ways,
but yeah, oh yeah, I mean there is gore, but
for some reason I expected a lot more. Um. I
mean it is gory. It is just gory. If you
haven't watched it yet, it's gory and it is bizarre.
And you know, I saw the review saying that there
was some full frontal male nudity, and there was less
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of that than I expected as well. So um, all
in all, I think I was like I was going
in at eleven and I came out at a nine.
But that's okay. I really enjoyed it. Standard to d
C EU movies, I felt like it was a little
long and and had a lot of a lot of
story going into it. That being said, I feel like
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James Gunn did it in a way that was very interesting,
and when the extra act at the end of the
movie came on or started, I was excited for it
as opposed to thinking, oh my god, is this movie
so there there are a lot of things that I
think we're done extremely well in the movie. But yeah,
one of the things that that would kind of irritated me.
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Not irritated, but just like, I question the reasoning for
having that be part of the story is that you
do kind of have your own little Harley Quinn featurette
buried in the middle of this movie. Did you watch
the pitch meeting for it? Know? Is that what they
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talked about YouTube among many movie inside the Suicide Squad movie? Yeah, yeah,
they said, she needs her own movie. Well she already
got one, Well she gets another little When I was watching,
I was like this, like, it's good, it's entertaining, it's
a good but it feels almost like it could have
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been a separate thing that would exist as its own
featurette that is related to the film, right, Like you
could have taken all of that out, Uh, you still
would have had to figure out a way of getting
Harley with the other characters, because you know, for those
who don't know, the movie opens up with a a
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a surprise and characters are not necessarily with each other
at the beginning, and they have to meet up later.
And I don't want to spoil anything because it is
worth seeing. Also, like it's James Gunn going back to
some horror elements, which you know he did Slither, which
is a phenomenal horror movie. And I feel like this
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has a lot of D n A in common with Slither. Um,
It's like, I still don't know if I like it.
It's definitely I can definitely recognize the good parts of it.
I mean, I enjoy I thought it was very entertaining. Um,
I really like so one of the things that he did.
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And I don't think this is a spoiler, but if
you're worried that it is, just fair warning is instead
of trying to explore lane everything at the beginning, just
every once in a while we get character's backstory. Um.
And well, I knew that that was a device that
James Gunn was using in the movie to make us
relate to the characters. I almost didn't mind it. Um.
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It was like a nice little breather from all of
the gore and the action in the zanies. So um,
I I really enjoyed that part of it. And I
connected with the characters. I didn't think I will, and
it was definitely Yeah, I connected with a character that
was the big bad. Because there's one line, one stupid
line the James Gunn puts in the stupid movie that
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makes you feel bad for the big bad. Okay, but anyway, Um, really,
there's really one villain in the Suicide Squad, and it's
not the giant starfish monster. See. I I feel like
there's a few villains. There's there's one villain, and that's
the United States governments. That's the real villain of the
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Suicide Squad. That's not a spoiler, because I mean that's
the whole like premise, right, you have the government using
villains as as as cannon fodder and to just throw
it problems that they otherwise can't do. And because their villains,
it gives the government plausible deniability to say, oh, those
are villains being villains and if they die, well they're
(23:22):
bad guys. So you kind of want them to die anyway,
like you you get that the United States is like
the worst um the government. There was one, Yeah, there
was one death that I was exceptionally sad about. I'm sure, like,
but it was I bet it's the death that I
felt was completely telegraphed by the trailers. And we'll talk
about off the show so that we don't Yeah yeah,
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but also I mean right away if like, it's not
a surprise to anybody who actually watches d C stuff
and cartoons and reads comics and stuff. But right away
they dispelled the the image of a man of Waller
being you know, an upstanding here motivated women. She's she's
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a psychopath in this movie. Um yeah, like this is
their their choices that James Gunn makes that I think
are phenomenal and are really really great. I don't know,
maybe the film just didn't quite feel cohesive enough to me.
Something about it just didn't stick with me. But that
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being said, all the individual performances are great. Margot Robbie
continues to absolutely slay it as Harley Quinn. She is
so good. But everyone is fantastic, and you know, getting
to to feel empathy for characters like Rat Catcher two
and Polka Dot Man. It's pretty phenomenal. It is now
(24:48):
it's really interesting because you don't know if you like it,
but a whole bunch of people did. It got amazing
critical response, right like in the nineties on the critical
response is great, but once again we saw review bombing
going on as well, so that the audience score was
different from what the critics score was. And generally it
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sounds like it was fans of the Snyder verse who
are continuing to be upset that d C hasn't like
tripled down on the Snyder approach to the d C EU,
and so they were review bombing the movie before it
hadn't even come out. Do you think that's the reason
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that the box office is so low because that's been
the big news? Is that Suicide Squad? You know, well,
it was highest grossing during the pandemic for a rated
R movie, but it's still underperformed what they were for
because it brought in twenty six and a half million
dollars domestically over opening weekend, which is pretty low these days. Okay,
I think that this is a an issue that is
(25:52):
far too complicated to boil it down to a single
or even one or two causes, right, because so much
stuff is happening right now that impacts box office. We
are in the middle of a surge of the pandemic
where we've got like the delta and potentially the lambda
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variants of coronavirus taking holds of certain regions like Georgia,
where Ariel and I live, are really being hit hard
right now. Like there are hospitals in our state that
are turning away ambulances because they have no room in
the ICU to bring anyone else in. So, like that's
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you know that that was what we were worried about
at the beginning of the pandemic of last year, was
that we would overwhelm the hospitals. Well that's happening again.
So in that environment, I assume there are a lot
of people who are, you know, maybe a little reluctant
to go to the theater and potentially become part of
the problem. Uh. Then you also had the like us,
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we were going to see it in the theater. And
then you had the fact that it was released simultaneously
on HBO Max, which is you know what Warner Brothers
said they were going to do um And so you've
got some people saying, well, of course, if people are
already subscribed to HBO Max, why would they pay extra
to go see it in the theater. I mean, apart
from the fact that you know, movies are meant to
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be seen on big screens. But I think most of us, uh, like,
we measure that against convenience and safety and we make
our decisions and like Ariel, I decided to watch it
at home. Um, so that's part of it. I think
that's so. I think there's just a lot of different
elements that all together mean that it's a lower take
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in the box office. That being said, Black Widow was
released in theaters and on Disney Plus and still made
eighty million at the theaters. So but I feel like
the difference there is if you wanted to watch it
on Disney Plus, you had to pay thirty That's true.
You did have to pay, which I did and I
didn't mind doing because again, that would be to less
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than two movie movie tickets for myself and my husband. Atlanta.
That's true because I think like the national average ticket
prices somewhere around like eleven or twelve dollars, but that's
not the case in Atlanta. No, Atlanta's like fifteen and
twenty at least to your point. You know it with
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HBO Max you don't have to pay extra so as
you as you point out, that is very different from
The Black Widow. And even if you do by HBO
Max to to watch the movie, which I'm sure some
people did, if you keep it, you know, then they
get that additional revenue. But how much of that actually
goes into the movie numbers. You know, there's been a
(28:42):
big kerfuffle between studios and the actors and the unions
and all this because they're still trying to figure it out.
On Matt Damon's Hot Ones interview, he actually talked about
how streaming effects uh movie movie takes and how that
factors into what kind of movies are made. That's why
we're getting a lot more act shouldn't a big blockbuster,
he said, because to do something like cider house rules
(29:04):
are good while hunting where it's it's more of like
a casual drama. I guess I would say, like you
have to make all of the marketing, all of the
production money back, and now you've got half the box office.
Because things are going to streaming more quickly, you don't
have the DVD, blu ray VHS sales anymore, and so
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it's a lot bigger of a gamble to do a
smaller movie like that. So it's just the industry is
still figuring it out. And what we're doing is we're
seeing we're seeing a massive disruption that began as soon
as we started seeing the first streaming services. And obviously
Netflix has had to deal with this because they still
produce a ton of original content, but you know, in
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order to grow that, either need to get more subscribers
or they have to start charging more per month. And
I think everybody else is starting to come to grips
with that same reality. And as you point out, Aerial,
it gets really hard then to associate the amount of
revenue your your business is generating with specific products, right Like,
(30:12):
if if it's a subscription based service, then it's pretty
hard for you to make the argument of yeah, but
the people who are subscribed to it, because the suicide squad,
right like, you can't really make that argument. So it
does mean that we're seeing a transformation in the business
side of Hollywood, which ultimately could mean a massive change
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in the types of films we see. And that's not
necessarily a bad thing. It does mean that, you know,
there might be a time where stuff we've gotten used
to seeing just isn't coming out as much anymore. But
people are endlessly creative and there are an unlimited number
of stories to tell. So I am confident that what
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however this does shake out, we're still going to have
incredible films. They just might be made in a much
different way than the way we've become used to over
the last decade or so. I agree, And it's it's
it's change, you know, from the last decade. So it'll
be interesting to see what's next. Yes, now what's next
(31:17):
for us is we're going to take a break, but
when we come back, we're gonna have an interesting mash
up between some wacky Shenanigan causing siblings and some zombes
zombes zombe. Let's go to break, all right. Well, first
(31:52):
of all, my apologies to the Cranberries. Um, no apologies
to me. I mean, if I have to apologize, you
are real. I gotta apologize to eybody else who listened.
So that's just gonna take up my whole day. You
did it surprisingly well, Yeah, so are two of our
our mashups today we're doing because these are kind of
related to news items that we did not cover at
(32:14):
the beginning, but we wanted to go over very quickly.
One of those is that before too long, we're going
to get Night of the Animated Dead and animated film
adaptation of the classic zombie movie Neither Living Dead, which
is in public domain. There was a mess up with
(32:35):
that film where the copyright notice wasn't properly filed and displayed,
so Neither Living Dead's in public domain. Literally, anyone can
screen that anywhere, anytime, you can charge money for it.
It's there's there's no copyright on Neither Living Dead, and
we're getting an animated film in which they're going to
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add in some stuff that wasn't in the original movie.
It is interesting that it's going to be like in
in streaming services, and also it's going to be on
Blu ray and DVD. I guess some people still buy those, um,
I mean I do if it's like you can't guarantee
you're always going to be able to get the movie
(33:17):
you want for free online, so I sometimes by I
just don't have space for stuff anymore, so I don't
buy those things to clutter up my house. But yeah,
it's a that's that's coming out. So that's one of
the two items we're going to take. And then the
other one is Animaniacs season two trailer is out. Um.
(33:37):
I you know, I'm still working through the season one
of Animaniacs. Um. And I felt like the season one
was hitted miss and I'm really hoping that season two
finds its scroop a lot more. I know they tested
out a few new characters and segments in season one.
Season two still looks like it's banking a little bit
on the gross base level humor a little bit um,
(34:00):
but not too much. Wackos I pops out of his
head at once, that's true. Yeah, the season two trailers
really more of a teaser, It's not there's not a
whole lot of content to it. Um. Yeah. And it's
interesting because when I think of Animaniacs, I think of
the original run where there were a lot more characters,
(34:22):
uh and segments, right, and then they essentially boiled it
down to the two that were the most popular, which
were the Warner brothers and their sister and Pinky in
the brain. Um, So we don't have like characters like
the good feathers and all that anymore, which you know,
I realized that shows need to grow and move on,
and we talked about often how we don't want shows
(34:42):
to just keep rehashing the old things. I wouldn't mind
a Rita and run musical. Maybe I feel like a
lot of the stuff they have cut out kind of
needed cutting because they were the least consistent. Thank goodness,
they don't have Katie Kaboom in the anymore. Um. Yeah,
there's certain certain segments that were just terrible. But that
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being said, we are now going to mash up the
classic NI the Living Dead and animaniacs. Uh. And for
those who aren't aware, Night the Living Dead was not
the first zombie movie. It's not like it was the
original zombie film of all time, but it is. I
would argue the zombie film that's set up certain tropes
that we still see today, which are things like, you know,
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especially for slow shuffling zombies, they're the recently dead. Um,
they hunger for human flesh. Killing them usually requires that
you have to want. In DII The Living Dead, it
actually involves setting them on fire or destroying the brain. Um.
But like these are little things that would that planted
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the seeds for what we think of when we get
to movie zombies. Um, and do you want me to
go first? Or do you want to go first? Areal?
I'll go first, all right, So I'm gonna apologize for
any time I attempt a Warner sibling voice. It's not
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going to be good. This is called Night of the
Living Dot. All right, Yacko, Wacko and Dot were doing
their huge you know, running around the Warner movie lot
one sunny afternoon, playing their daily game of hide and seek.
They had just tagged an unsuspecting Ralph the security guard
and Dr Scratch and Sniff, and had reached their home base,
the water Tower, except one of the Warner siblings was
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not alone. Look, said Wacko, I found a pet. Can
I keep him? Can I keep him? Can I keep him?
As he held up a gaunt, moaning, grayish small figure,
what is it? Said Dot? Some sort of chihuahua, asked Yacko.
I don't know, but I love him, said Wacko, kissing
the figure's face with a big wet lick. Yacko and
Dot agreed to let Wacco keep him as long as
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Wacko promised to housebreak it. And Wacko promised. Wacko named
the pet Stinky because of the smell. The next day,
when it was time to play their daily game of
hide and seek, Wacko was dragging. When asked what was wrong,
he said he didn't feel so good. He had been
up all night with Stinky, who was being a naughty
pet by biting him and refusing to eat his healthy
birthday cake for dinner and all honesty. Wacko didn't look
(37:15):
too good either, but he rallied and they began their game.
Wacko saw it and found Yacko first, but instead of
tagging him, he bit him. Yacko said, yeah, hey, bro,
what gives and Wacko just moaned. But fair was fair?
So now Yacko was also it, and they saw it
for Dot, but Jacko also started feeling not so good,
(37:35):
and he started feeling hungry. What Wacko was feeling hungry too,
But Wacko is always hungry, so nothing seemed off there.
Next day ran across Chicken Boo while they were looking
for Dot and thought, oh chicken, and they bait him too.
Then Boo joined the search. Along the way, they passed
the famous Warner movie Graveyard, where they could see a
brother and sister playing with a bunch of those ugly, gray,
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moaning puppies. Yacko said, oh, more puppies, because he's not
failing good and opened the gates to the studio lot,
and the puppies rushed in. Soon almost everyone was tagged Rita, Run, Slappy, Skippy, Hello, Nurse,
and even Brain well everyone except Dot, being the clever one.
She realized what was happening that all the puppies were
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actually zombies and locked herself in the water tower for safety,
thinking herself now the only Hide and Seek survivor on
the lot. All of a sudden, she heard a norf
at the water tower door. Turns out Pinky had escaped
the clutches of the zombie Horde as well, so she
led him in. The Warner Brother executives high and safe
in their tower were powerless to fix the situation, having
given up their rights to the Armies of the Dead
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on Netflix. However, they knew the show must go on
and tried to spin it as a new Animaniacs, darker universe.
They even rewrote some of the songs come join the
and They're surviving, Sister Dot, and You're not as man,
You're a zombie boo. But those songs didn't really catch
on well all, except for Where's Pinky? We want brains Now.
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Legend has it that Dot and Pinky are still up
there in the water tower fighting their time, hoping someday
they can safely emerge. The Warner Brothers studio now claims
it was all a marketing ploy and there wasn't really
a zombie outbreak. You can't tour that part of the
studio lot anymore, though, if you want to risk it.
You can't sneak in through the Warner Movie Graveyard, but
venture into the zany to the max at your own risk.
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Dunt dunt dunk. I like it very, very dark and whimsical.
Um mine is called Georgia Merrow's Night of the Maniacs.
I'm Sorry and the Maniacs. Barbara and Johnny have a problem.
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They're on their way to visit the grave of their
late father, but the cemetery is a three hour drive
from their home, and then they have to drive the
three hours back. Meanwhile, a storm appears to be brewing
and the car radio has cut out. They get to
the cemetery and after some back and forth, bar Bra
shows a little discomfort. Johnny, amused at how his sister
(40:04):
finds the graveyard unsettling, tells his sister there coming to
get you, Barbara, and points to a trio of shambling
figures in the distance. Stop it, Johnny yells Barbara, and Johnny,
growing board of the juvenile game, turns to head back
to the car. But that's when he sees that between
him and the car are the three figures, and they
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are bounding toward him, yelling boying gee, boying gi boying gee.
Next thing you know, they've pounced on him and Barbara, terrified,
runs toward a farmhouse as the three weird creatures poke,
prad and latch onto Johnny. Who are you, screams Johnny.
Where the Warner brothers says one and the Warner sister
(40:48):
says another. I'm Jacko, says the first one. I'm Lacko
says a shorter one with a hat, and I'm Dot
says the third. And you're our new best friend, yells Jacko.
Johnny her fight tries to run, but because he has
a Warner brother and a Warner sister grabbing each of
his legs, he loses his balance and falls, hitting his
head on a gravestone. He has clearly passed on. Yikes,
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says Wacko. I wonder what's eating him? I suggest we do,
says Dot, pulling out a knife and fork. Ah so
it's that kind of movie, says Yaco, and the three
ravenously descend upon Johnny. Meanwhile, Barbara makes it to the
farmhouse and sees that no one's home. She wanders around,
picking up a phone, but the line is dead, and
(41:34):
as is a person in one of the rooms upstairs.
It's pretty unsettling. A man named Ben arrives at the
house and tries to talk with Barbara, but she's clearly
catatonic from fear. Ben sets about trying to secure the house,
already aware of the danger of some maniacs on the loose.
I'm sorry animaniacs. As he is boarding up a door, Barbara,
here's brains, brains, and then whoops, sorry, I'm Brian point
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and she looks over and sees a pair of mice
shambling toward her inside the house. She lets a scream
and scrabbles away. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Asks the shorter mouse with the really big head. I
think so Brian says the taller mouse. But if Zack
Snyder directs a reboot of the sequel, won't the film
be considered derivative action movie. Barbara runs from the room
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just as Ben comes around the corner, and the door
opens up, and up from the basement come two men,
one slightly older and one younger. Harry is the older one,
Tom's the younger one, and they usher the pair downstairs
into the basement, and then we've got this really long
discussion inside the basement between the various characters as to
whether it's better to stay down there or to make
(42:45):
a run for it using a truck that's parked outside
the farmhouse. I mean this, this talk goes on for
a long time, honestly, in fact, long enough that we
kind of forget about the maniacs. I'm sorry, the animaniacs outside,
but there's a lot of interpersonal drama, so it's okay.
The discussion is broken up when a window to the
basement breaks in and in fly three shabby looking pigeons
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who talk like gangsters for some reason, and the humans
scream and they run up the stairs and like one
or two of them die. But I didn't bother naming them,
so that's fine. They get upstairs, and first they find
out that, you know, there are a few other maniacs
i'm sorry, animaniacs to worry about. There's this oblivious toddler
who's destroying everything she touches, and her extremely anxious dog.
(43:29):
There's a pair of squirrels, one who is trying out
jokes that wouldn't have gone over in the cat's skills
back in the batt old days. And there's a dog
and cats singing about stuff. Plus there are others, and
what follows is a zany sequence in which the humans
try to escape the maniacs I'm sorry, animaniacs, and and
they the animaniacs picked them off one by one or
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sometimes two by two with cartoonish acts of violence. Only
the humans are in the real world, so while the
violence is cartoonish, the outcome is extreme, really realistic, And
there is a lot of body horror stuff going on here, y'all.
And then Yaco tries to calm everyone down until Dot
yells everybody quiet, and the maniacs I'm sorry, the animaniacs
(44:14):
and the remaining humans stopped to look at him, and
then the music starts out of nowhere. I've seen every
zombie flick from Versus to the Day of the Dead.
I've watched George ra Merrow tell us we need to
hit them in the head. Jeffrey comes to make corpses
moving the film The re Endamater, and I saw Killian's
junk in the beginning of twenty eight days later. Bill
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Murray had a cameo that made us laugh in Zombie Land,
and Seth Green kind of had a zombie fist in
the film Idol Hands. If you're in South Korea, beware
of the train to Boosson and if you're in the Winchester,
say hello to my good friend Sean. Warm Bodies use
some zombies to give us Romeo and Juliet. Planet Terra
had zombies but wasn't really grindhouse yet. If there's a
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zombie outbreak, don't go to the mall, fur shopping spree
or squish bugs and noncy de vi. Profanare il sandel
more Tea. It's a Italian zombie movie. But before you
Echo can continue his modern zombie movie song, his head
disappears and we hear the crack of a rifle shot
and we cut outside and there's this mob of humans
(45:20):
out there, and they just open up on that farmhouse
and what follows is a massacre of everyone in their
Animaniac and human alike, and then the mob pats themselves
on the back after a job well done. And as
the movie closes, we see two tiny figures slip out
from the house. We have to get out of here
and prepare for tomorrow night. Why why we gotta do
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tomorrow night, Brian, the same thing we do every night,
Pinky try to take over the world. Evil music sting credits. Jeez,
and you said mine was dark. I set mine in
the world of night Living. No, it's true, It's true.
(46:02):
It was really good. And at points I was like
when you started, I'm like, I'm not sure this wasn't
already in Animaniac's episode. But no, they don't get they
never go quite that dark. But it was brilliant. I
loved your song. Thank you for explaining. The Italian The
Italians really took the zombie film genre to heart after
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The Living Dead um and made a lot of zombie movies,
including one in which a man fights a zombie shark.
That sounds brilliant to me. It is. Let put this way,
it's unforgettable. Yeah. Well, if you can't find our mashups unforgettable,
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or you have an idea of how Animaniac should be
mashed up with neither the Living Dead yourself, you should
write us and tell us how can they do that.
They can send us an email the addresses l n
C at i heart media dot com, or you can
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out there. On Twitter, we are l n C Underscore Podcast.
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next time, I am Jonathan Brad Strickland and I am
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Ariel Shambler Casting m The Large Nur John Collider is
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