"Greg Kampe Show" 1-29-24

#OaklandMBB coach Greg Kampe & "The Voice of the Golden Grizzlies" Neal Ruhl discuss Oakland Basketball live from RJs Pub in Rochester Hills!

Episode Transcript

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So live to RJ's Pub in RochesterHills. Here's Coach Campy and the voice
of the Golden Grizzlies, Neil Rule. Another episode of the Greg and Campy
Show. We are live here atRJ's Pub in Rochester Hills. My name
is New World Voice of the GoldenGrizzlies. Of course he is the coach
Greg Campy. Camp How you doingman? Just glad to be here.

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Sorry I missed last week, butI heard Smidie was way better than I
am anyway, so that was that'swhy I sent him on the road to
night and he's out west somewhere.You eliminated the threat. Eliminated that threat,
right, I like it. Ilike it. No, got a
road trip to talk about here,a trip to Wisconsin. The first Horizon
League team to get a victory inthe state of Wisconsin. The rest of

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the Horizon League now one and tenin games at Wisconsin and camp We talk
about this all the time, everysingle year. The story never changes.
It's the hardest trip in the HorizonLeague. It is, and there's a
lot of reasons for that. Oneis just to get there. Now we've
taken care of that. We charterthere so you know, that gives us
a real advantage and maybe even partof why we were able to win a

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double overtime game on the last dayof the trip, the fact that we
weren't on a bus for six hoursand then four hours, you know,
so that that probably had a lotto do with it. But I also
think that those two teams are reallygood. I think Milwaukee is at the
end of the season when you getinto tournament time, I think you got
to look at Milwaukee because their bigsare getting better, and they're a team

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like many teams in this day andage of the transfer portal, they're a
team that's growing as the season goeson. You got players playing together for
the first time, and I youknow, they're very talented offensively hard to
it's hard. You know, wedid a hell of a job on Freeman.
He had seven points and I thinkfour of those seven came into overtimes.

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And but you know, pulling hurtUs and that big kid was just
I can't think of his name,fields, maybe twenty two. Yes,
he was a man. He hedidn't play like that the first time we
played him, and I haven't seenmuch of that on film from him.
So he's growing and getting better,and so that that's a team that scares
me a little bit. As weget later into the season, I think

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they have a chance to be really, really good. And Green Bay's on
a high right now. They're playingreally well. They've got a great player,
but they've got a couple of kidsthat can really shoot it. And
they had two guys go nine forten from the three against us, and
that's tough. And you know thatthat game, you know, I blame
myself a lot. I made acouple of tactical airs late in that game,

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and I think that hurt our team. You know, six fifty to
fifty with five minutes to go,we were in a position that we need
to be in. We've won everyclose game, and we changed. You
know, I went man. Andit wasn't so much that we went man.
I think we went it. Didit a little too early, but
they had just banked went in andthen they had gotten an open look and

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a guy that hadn't made one allnight made one, and Rocket came down,
made a really nice play, gotus back even and I thought,
okay, let's throw something different athim. And basically what happened is their
great player took us to the rackand scored, and he only had eight
points in the game, and fourof those came in this run. What
I should have done if I hadexperience, Yeah, I'm kidding, I'm

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kidding. What I shall What Ishould have done was after the second possession,
we should have gone back to thezone. And and you know,
that's an air on me, andI feel bad and hurt our team,
and you never want to say thatas a coach. Now, obviously,
if we'd have made a couple ofshots during that run, it could have

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changed it too. But in ourleague, with everybody bunched together like that,
I I don't think you're going towin every game, and there's reasons
you lose some. And we wereon a streak we won six in a
row going into that, we didn'tweren't able to win. And the big
thing is that we came back andone loss didn't become two. And that's
not that's all on our players.They just did an unbelievable job in that

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game that you know, we sawGoky get hot and be the Goky we
need to win a championship. Wesaw Beru get extended minutes for the first
time since the summer and showed whathe could do. And you know,
Lampman made some big shots. Treyhad a really tough shooting night. I've

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never seen him miss so many pointblank shots, but he made every free
throw, you know, so hedidn't let the fact that you know,
I mean, we ran this littleplay against the zone and he broke up
so open. I don't think hecould believe he was that open. And
he missed the point blank layup ata critical time, and you don't see
that from him very often. Hecould have pouted, and he did,
and he came down, we threwit in to him, he got fouled,

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he made two free throws on thenext possession. So you know,
they're doing things that you have todo to win close games. We've won
every close game that we've played thatgot into the last two minutes of a
game where it was a one possessiongame. We've won those games in the
league. And if we continue todo that with that kind of toughness and
that kind of confidence in themselves andbelief in themselves no matter what's happening,

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all. I just started yelling atsomebody in the audience that comes every game
every time. Yeah, given Austina hard time, given Austin a hard
time, this is probably would behis last last. That'll be another huge
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them. Good to have you guysout here, but we are doing it
here in twelve seventy am that betyour home for Golden Grizzlies basketball. But
camp you mentioned it. You talkedabout Blake Lampman. A good trip for
Blake Laman. He made ten threesin the two games. And you know,
as far as Blake goes, becausecertainly, you know, Jack exploded
in that game against Milwaukee. Wejust got to bring about fifty or one

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hundred of his family members to everygame and he'll do that exact same thing.
But between the two of them,eighteen threes in the two games.
You like that, yeah, Andthat's what we built this team on.
You know, at the beginning ofthe year, before Blake got hurt in
the first two games, you know, one of the things that as you
script up your season and we gotback from the summer, you know,

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I wanted Jack to shoot fifteen threesa game. I wanted Blake to shoot
ten threes a game, and weweren't sure what was happening at the point
guard position. And one of thereasons Blake might not beginning as many was
because I thought he was going tohave the ball in his hands more.
And so that was kind of theplan, and it was going to win.
And we lost Blake for six orseven games, and you know,
the the team starting to morphius ina different way, and you have your

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ebbs and flows during the season.But as we get now into February.
You know, I feel pretty confidentthat we're back to you know, what
our identity would be, and thatis, if you're going to double the
post and try and take Trey andChris out of the game, you know
we're going to shoot a lot ofthrees. We shot forty one threes against
Milwaukee, and Milwaukee played zone andthey don't play Z because they weren't going

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to let Trey beat them. That'swhat green Bay did. And I think,
you know, green Bay beat us. So everybody in the league is
going to look at what would theydo and how come Townson only had whatever,
you know, eight or ten orwhatever he had, And that's what
teams are going to do to us. And now we've give them thought for
you know, Blake with with fiveand Jack with eight, and you know

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they're going to have to make adecision. And so we think we think
we're built for anything. We thinkwe're built that we can play fast.
We think we're built that we canplay slow. We think we're built it.
On a bad offensive night, wecan still win, and we think
we can be in a shootout.The only the only thing that scares me
is I think we turned the balltoo much. We turned the ball over

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too much in the first half.And then the Knights that for some reason
we don't rebound. Those are theKnights that scare me speaking of rebounding.
And a guy who will join ushere on the Greg Campy Show as well,
Lua seventeen rebounds in the game atMilwaukee, I mean just and look,
it was a game camp where Milwaukee'sBIG's were, they were punishing us.

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I mean, that's that that that'sa fair way to say it.
And then brew comes in the gameand changes the entire tenor of all of
that with a couple of big timeblocks and it just went on a rebounding
spree. Yeah, And the reboundingis is we know he can do that.
You know, as he grows asa player, as he gets better,
as he gets stronger, one ofthe things he's got to learn.
And he's here and he's hearing mesay this, but he's heard that a

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lot of practices. He's just gotto get stronger in his arms, in
his hands, and when he canget to that, nobody else can get
to. Now can he hold onto him when he gets there? You
see that from DQ a lot too. You know, he gets to a
ball, but then it can't quitecome down with it, and Varu is
learning that too, and as bigand strong as he is is, once
that becomes natural for him, youknow, he's going to get the balls

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that nobody in our league can getto and he's going to have a lot
of rebounding nights like that. Andas his career progresses, where he's playing,
you know, thirty to thirty threeminutes a game in the future,
he's going it would not surprise methat he's like Jamal Kine and averages a
double double. I really believe he'sthat type of player and that type of
potential, and he knows I feelthat way, and I think he feels

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that way. It's just, youknow, he's got to get you know,
just got to go through the processand let the process take care of
itself and get stronger and get alittle meaner, you know, get him
a little meaner. He's a reallygood kid and a really nice guy,
but sometimes you just gotta get alittle meaner. I think he will.
You talk about the process camp.The Horizon League standings right now certainly are

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in process as well. You guys, Youngstown State and Green Bay all sitting
towards the top of the table.Everybody with three losses. Green Bay's played
one more game, so they haveone more win. But this is about
what we thought, right, Youhave basically Green Bay, Youngstown State,
and Oakland with three losses, andthere's Right State. Here comes Old Right
State, by the way, aswe figured would be the case, those

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are your top four seeds right there, all within pretty much half a game
of each other. Yeah, likeI've said over and over again this year,
many many years ago, I coachedI was an assistant coach at the
University of Toledo and the league endedin a five way tie for first.
So I've seen this before. Thedifference then was the mac holds their tournament

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all in one spot where you know, you okay, you finished first,
but you're the fifth seed right whereNow, if you finish first, then
you're the fifth seed. You're gonnahave to go on the road. And
so we can't be in that position, and tie breakers are going to mean
the world. And right now we'resitting really good with Youngstown. The three

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teams with three losses worth three andone against those three teams. Now,
Youngstown and Green Bay haven't played,So Green Bay is one in one and
Youngstown's zero two, but they're goingto play twice. We're not going to
play either one of them again.So we have to play Right State twice.
We have to at the minimum ofsplit with that, and if we
do, then we put ourselves ina position where we'll win almost every tiebreaker

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there is. If as Milwaukee withfive losses, if they do what I
think they're capable of doing and gettingbetter, we're two and zero against them
too, which is really going toplay in the tiebreakers. The Cleveland State
game is going to be unbelievably importantfor us because they beat us right and
so we can't be on and twoagainst somebody that will hurt us in the
tiebreakers. So as you look atthose games, I'm not even worried about

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who's first or who's second right now. I'm just worried about We've got to
put ourselves in a position that wehave a home game. Once I know
we've got that, then I'm gonnaworry about where we finish. And obviously
the players and the staff and everybodywants to ring for winning the regular season,
and that's what we aspire to do. But we do know that our

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number one goal is tournament and beingseated in a position that you can get
to Indianapolis and win that thing.And so that's got to be the main
focus right now. And the onlyway to do that is take them one
at a time, no no doubt, speaking of one at a time.
Back in the arena on Thursday night, Robert Morris will be in town.
Love to see everybody out there atthe arena. Go to Goldengrizzlies dot com,
get your tickets to that and camp. You know, we've seen the

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crowds grow and grow and grow,and the environment gets louder and louder and
louder, and now we're coming downthe stretch. Yeah, and I've seen
recently, I've seen some video froma few years ago, and man,
I'd like to get back to that. Yeah, you know, I'd like
to get back to where we werepre pandemic with those student crowd and all
that kind of stuff. And hopefullythis is an exciting team that can make

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plays, and you know, thingsare going pretty good for us, so
hopefully, you know, we canwe can have that type of crowd Thursday
and Saturday. I know this whatI just told you scares me is the
you know, a bad rebounding night. Robert Moore's best rebounding team in our
league. And I was unaware ofthat until I started watching. I haven't
paid a lot of attention to thembecause we have played we haven't played them,
and they were so far down theschedule before they in Wright State,

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you know, or in the secondhalf of the season, So I hadn't
really paid attention to those two teams. And I put a lot of attention
into them since Saturday night. Andthey they they rebound, God, Darren,
they go to the glass and theyrebound, and there they can shoot
the three and all the things thatcould beat you they're capable of doing.
And they had a three game winningstreak snapped. And because they missed a

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free throw against Cleveland State, theykid makes a free throw, they probably
win the game. And I thinkthey lost it. Well maybe even in
overtime, but it was a twopoint two point long I think so.
Yeah, And as you said,they have climbed the standings too. They're
up to four and six right now. And just to give you some flavor
on that Cleveland State six and five, there's a bunch of teams in between
that. I mean, it couldbe a seven way tie, it could

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be a one team in first anda five way tie for second. I
mean a lot of there's a lotof very important games have to be played.
As I said, Youngstown's got togo up to Wisconsin, Northern Kentucky's
got to go up to Wisconsin.Oakland, Cleveland State have already been up
there, so you know, that'skind of bodes well for us. It's
the fact that we got that winand but we still have I mean,

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we've got a three game roads fanof Northern Kentucky, Right State and Fort
Wayne back to back to back.So there's a lot of a lot of
tough games out there, and it'syou can't look forward to that. You
just got to play them one ata time. If you look start looking
forward, that's when you one lossbecomes two. Camp. I did want
to touch on this with you beforewe get brew in here and get to

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our first break up the night Trey. You brought up Trey in Milwaukee,
it's just sight on see as soonas he touches about, boom to a
running at him. And that's prettymuch been the story the entire league play.
How big was that when you lookat Blake and you look at Jack
to maybe get Tray a little bitof breathing room, to know that if
you just sight unseen run that doubleteam at him, you could pay a

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price. Well, yeah, we'vejust got to make shots. And the
one thing I keep telling, youknow, people that I'm close to and
friends that you know, text meand call me after games, and that
is, you know, we're sittingup there in a pretty good position,
and I don't think we've even comeclose to playing how we're capable of playing
in a Rising League game. Youknow, you look at the Xavier game,
you look at the Ohio State game, you look at Illinois game,

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and the way we confidently shot theball and the way we played and the
way we rebounded. We just haven'tseen the total game yet. And we're
winning. And we're winning because oftoughness. We're winning because we've got great
kids that want to win and theyfigure out how to win, and they
stick with the game plan. They'recoachable, and they make plays down the
street, and that's why we're winningclose games. One of these days,

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the light's gonna come on and we'regonna start making shots and when we get
in eight point lead, it's gonnago to fourteen. And when it gets
to fourteen, it's gonna go totwenty. You know, I watched Youngstown
Northern Kentucky the other day and yesterdayit was I think, and Northern Entucky
comes out and makes five or sixshots to start the game, and they're
ahead by eight, and Youngstown's playingat home, and they catch up.

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They go up six, and thenthey go up ten, and then they
go up twenty, and then theygo up thirty, you know, against
a really good team, and andyou know they played their a game.
We haven't done that yet, andso I'm waiting for that because I you
know, the ball going in isit's contagious, right, And now that
Jack's made a few shots and he'sfeeling better about himself and Blake and then

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you see DQ make some and thenmaybe Rocket can get going with a few,
and and you know, you startseeing the ball go in. That's
when you take an eight point leadtwenty five. And we need to do
that. We have not done thatother than at Iepui's the only time we've
done it all year. All right, when we come back, we'll be
joined by a guy that certainly hadhis AG game. Milwaukee Baru Nava LaRue

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is Neilrul, the voice of theGolden Grizzlies. And right now, as
promise, we're joined by a guy. When we talked about the A game,
he brought his A game on Saturday. Baru Nava Larua, our guest
here on the Greg camp Show.And Baru appreciate the time. How you
feeling, man, I know you'refeeling pretty good after Saturday. I mean,
yeah, it's always good to geta road when I can't be said

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the first thing to do it inWisconsin's feeling pretty good right now. Absolutely.
And if you can tell, Baruis from a native of Australia,
born in Australia, grew up inFiji. And before we get on the
basketball floor, I want to talkabout that a little bit. Your your
family, you know your family history. You kind of moved around a little
bit when you were younger. Asyou said, you were born in Australia,
you grew up in Fiji, endedup back in Australia. Kind of

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take us through that. Yeah.So my parents are both native to Fiji
and they spent their entire lives therefor the most part, or at least
my dad did. My mom movedto Australia when she was eighteen. My
auntie actually moved her over there.She had thought it was gonna be for

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a holiday for a short time,and then my auntie basically told her,
look, no, you're not doingthat. You're gonna get a job,
you're gonna get your visa, youknow, work to have a better life
for you and your kids. Andthat's what she did. She ended up
having six of us all up,and I'm the youngest, so it was

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pretty easy for me growing up.My older siblings and my mum always did
a really good job, you know, making sure I had everything, and
even though we did struggle at times, I always had everything that I needed
because of them. So having themin my life has helped me a lot
early on, Like you said,I'd spend some time in Fiji as well,

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and you know, when you're there, as much as I did like
it, I loved my time inFiji when I was a kid. It's
a very very community based island.Everyone knows each other, everyone's kids hang
out with each other. Every morning. I'd wake up, I'd walk past
someone's house and they'd just invite mein for breakfast. Like that's how things

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were. It was like a realcommunity. Yeah, like they really just
everyone knew everyone. Everyone was okaywith sharing with everyone, and you know,
that's how it is. But it'sthat way because life over they can
get pretty tough. We didn't havehot water a lot of the time.
Like I remember taking a bath byboiling like water over a fire and then

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putting it into a tub, waitingfor it to cool down for a bit,
and then jumping in that to washmyself basically, And that's how it
was. Going from that and thengoing back home and you know, just
really realizing how much sacrifice my mompaid for me to be in the position
I am now. It was somethingthat I look back on a lot and

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appreciate. Bru tell us about.I mean, in Australia basketball, you
know, basketball is a bigger thingin Australia. Probably the people even even
realized. How did you end upon the basketball floor. Yeah. I
actually started out playing rugby and Idid that for nine years, I think
from six to about fifteen when Ifinally stopped. So you were a beast

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then, because rugby rugby guys arebuilt different man, that is a different
game. Ah yeah, Look alot of people say that I love,
but it's just what you did isit's a cultural thing. I mean in
Fiji and Australia too. Rugby's huge, like really really big. I grew
up my whole life wanting to bea rugby star and played for Fiji and

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represent Australia when a gold medal atthe Olympics, do all those sorts of
things. And funnily enough, Idid none of that with rugby and decided
to play basketball instead. But Iactually started because my high school coach,
my high school basketball coach saw mewalking in the hallway one day and he
basically just told me, you're reallytall, and i've seen you play rugby

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and you're pretty athletic. Do youwant to give it a go? And
I was like, yeah, sure, why not? Played one game was
horrible, really bad, but buttough crowd here by tennight. Yeah.
The two things I have always beenpretty good at the rebounding and blocking shots.

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And even though I couldn't score ordribble, or do anything else.
I could do those things really well, and I enjoyed the whole learning process
behind it is and just knowing thatthere was so much that I had to
explore and learn and get better atsort of drew me towards it. And
I found myself through the waits beingdrawn more and more towards Boscow, and

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eventually it just ripped me away fromplaying rugby. The Greg Campis Show is
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matter of fact, just a coupledays ago. Brew it and you and
you heard me kind of give myassessment of that game against Milwaukee where their
their bigs. We were kind ofhaving their way with us a little bit
during during the beginning stages of thatgame into the middle stages of that game.
You came in there and you andyou change that brew like you.
You came in there and you camein there with an attitude that you know,

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no matter what size they were gonnabe, you were gonna go right
at the and you did go rightat them. And blocking shots, just
a couple of electric, electric blockshots that really change the momentum of the
basketball game. You finished with seventeenrebounds, five blocks, and eight points
and thirty five minutes of play.Just what about that mentality, Burw Because

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I do believe that that you singlehandily change that basketball game as far as
the interior goes around the basket withthe way you were able to block those
shots. What do you What doyou like better scoring or blocking shot?
As much as I'd like to sayblocking shots, I think I like seeing
the bull go in the basket alittle bit more. Yeah, I mean
we're all human, right, Yeah, Getting a nice bluck is is always

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a nice Like the feeling of justrejecting someone at the rim or sending shots
out of bounds is a good feelingtoo, because I see you do it
and you're burrew like, you know, you're not overly emotional when you're out
there on the floor. I don'treally know what you're thinking or anything like
that. You go in like ahuge moment in that game and you send
a shot back, you send aback with force, man, like you

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know, you really did a number, and you just kind of turn around
and you wait for the ball tobe inbounded and everything like that. You
don't seem to get overly emotional outthere, do you. I mean,
at the end of the day,play to play. None of it really
matters if we lose, so upuntil we win, I'll just save the
celebrating until then. No, butbut again, seven offensive rebounds tell me

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about the process of offensive rebounding.What is it like for you? I
mean, for me, a lotof it just goes towards knowing my teammates
and how they're doing on the dayand how they misspractice just I mean,
how they missed shots generally. AndI know Trey, like coach Ed,
wasn't having the best shooting night.But I also know Trey's a really big,

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strong kid, so whenever he's aroundthe basket, he's never ever gonna
miss short. So as long asI'm on the other side, the ball
is probably gonna come to me byitself. I won't have to do a
whole lot. And like I said, again, we have a lot of
shooters, and he stressed a lotabout the bull going to the nail.
So this game, I just thought, why not just sprinting there and see
what happens. And it turns outhe was right on the lost rebound of

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regulation that I kicked back out toJack. The bull flew straight to the
nail, and I just happened tobe there and kicked at the jack and
he made a big shot. Thenail was Coach camp Be the first one
of your coaches that use that terminologythe nail, not the nail. But
he was the first coach I everhad that said that the bull is just
going to be this. If youfind yourself there, you might get a
rebound. And that's and that's theway. That's the way that it's worked

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out. It's kind of an oldertermat how that coach can't be explained it
when he comes comes back up herethis basketball team, brew coach can't be
brought up the fact that you guyscan win a game one hundred and ninety
five, you guys can win agame fifty nine to fifty five anywhere in
between. Is that is that kindof this team's identity that you can do
it any way that you want todo it. Yeah, I'd say that's

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exactly who we are. And alot of that comes back to just how
much we get along and how muchwe love each other, like we will
never go into games and into theselate game situations and you know, let
the guy next to us down.It's always going to be, you know,
tooth and nail up until the buzzersounds. And I think the game
against Milwaukee show just that. Wewe were down by I think eleven with

(28:18):
four minutes to go in the half, and we came back from that to
take the lead or tie it up. I can't remember just now, but
again towards the end of regulation,we were down and Jack made some big
shots for us. Blake made somebig shots for us. The same thing
with our first overtime. We foundourselves in a position again where we were
down, and you know, onceagain Jack came to the rescue and hit

(28:40):
a big shot for us, andwe got into that second overtime and by
then it was just a battle ofwho wants it more, and in the
end we did well. And Iactually want to back up this will be
the final question, Beroon, willlet you get on your way here on
the Monday night. But rebounding,because you talk about technique and you talk
about the skill of rebounding and knowingthe misses and knowing where you guys are

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gonna miss. How much of reboundingis that versus how much of it is
want to how much of it iswanting the basketball more than the other person.
I mean, as much as youknow knowing where the bull is going
to be helped at the end ofthe day, if you don't want to
grab it more than the other guy, and then it means nothing. Like
I could be in the right positionevery single time, But if the guy
there just happens to want it morethan me, or is tougher than me

(29:23):
in the moment, then he'll ripit out of my hands every time.
So I think the biggest thing inrebounding really is just how tough you want
to be, how much you wantit, how badly you want to end
the position. On defense, I'llgive you a team another chance on offense.
Well, seventeen times on Saturday youwanted it more than everybody else on
the floor. Man, we certainlydo appreciate your time here today. That

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was a great game, and we'relooking forward to more of it. Berw
thanks man, Absolutely he is.That's right, Baruneva. LaRue everybody here
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dot org. Welcome back to theGreg Campy Show. We are live at
r J's Pub in Rochester Hills.He is a coach Greg Campy. My
name is Neil rolla voice of theGolden Grizzlies. Happy to have you with
us. It's just about time forthe Asscampy segment of the show. What
do you got Camp? The weekyou were gone? Yes, every time

(32:22):
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Camp, Happy Cows. You readyfor the ass Campis Cherson? All
right? Here we go Pittsburgh.Marty will lead things off. Hashtag ask
Campy. Congrats him being the firstteam to win in the Horizon league in
Wisconsin. As you roll into thesecond half of league play, do you

(33:05):
focus more on refining, perfecting whatyou do well or adding wrinkles to the
offensive and defensive schemes? Quick hitters, variations, et cetera. Can always
kind of Mardy to give us agood one, right, Absolutely, It's
an easy to ease and not awhy did you kick a field? Go?
We'll get to that one, yeah, you know, Marty. Basically
what we do is we hold alot back as the season goes on because

(33:28):
we're gonna the key games are inMarch, obviously, and there's there's going
to be you know, you're playinga team for third time, and you're
going to know each other. Inmany cases you've played the same coach for
you know, thirty five times,and you know what they do, and
people know what we do, andso we always try and save a few
things. Tomorrow's practice, we're gonnaput you know, work today and figured

(33:50):
out how I'm going to do this, but we're gonna put four new little
quick hitters in just because by nowwe know what works. We keep the
analytics on everything. We know exactlyhow many times this year we've run this
and done this, and if theball reversed sides, if it didn't reverse
sides, if somebody touched it,who know who's on the floor when this
play works. If we've run ifwe let's say we've run Choice Goo thirty

(34:13):
seven times and twenty three of thosetimes Rocket Watts had the ball, and
ten times Blake had it and fivetimes DQ had it. That probably done
that up to thirty seven. Butwe know who was the most successful guy
at running the play. We knowwho. We know everything. So as
we get deeper into the season,and I've said this many times, and

(34:37):
I say to my team all thetime, erosion is what kills your team.
So you think you're good at something, and so you go away from
working on those things because you wantto get better at something else, and
then all of a sudden you're notgood at that anymore. Anyways, Because
like I said, the other night, after the Green Bay game, we
run a play to Jack, andearly in the year Jack made this shot

(34:57):
more than anybody that I've ever coachedmade it. And then Jack had some
tough times, so we didn't runit as much. We go back and
run it the other night, andwe don't set the screen to get him
open. And that's what I'm talkingabout erosion. That's not on the players,
that's on me because we hadn't runthat in practice. Had we hadn't
run we call it a bunch fortythree. We hadn't run bunch forty three

(35:19):
in practice in three weeks, soI call it in the game and we
don't run it, right, that'son me. So it's our job to
in practices because we our practice isnow actual practice time are only thirty five
to forty five minutes. Now we'reout there longer than that because we stretch,
because we watched video film, wetalk a lot, but the actual
practice time is thirty five to fortyfive minutes. So now it's on the

(35:45):
coaching staff to make sure we hitthe thing so that we don't erode in
what we do good. And thenthe biggest part of our practices now are
how we going to guard what ateam we're gonna play does. And that's
the key because we're gonna win.This team's going to win with defense,
so we have to we have towork on our defense and not let what
we do weller road. Uh.We had one for brew here that snuck

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in at the beginning, So Brew, I'll ask you just real quick.
This comes from the night capper.Hey, guys, wishing all good health
in the new year, checking infor my bachelor pad in Miami. Okay,
sounds like a Jack one of JackGolkie's friends. This one is for
berw Jamal Kaine or Jamal Kaine exactly. He wanted an all time Australian starting
five. Who was your favorite Australianplayer of all time? Patty Mills?

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And I was gonna say that that'sprobably everybody. That's everybody's favorite Australian player.
I never meant that guy, buthe must be a hell of a
guy because anybody from Australia talks aboutthat guy. Yeah, they absolutely do.
He said, being transparent in myall time starting five. I have
you plugged in at the number fourspot after that after that performance in Milwaukee,
so you're climbing the ranks. Beru, there there is that one for
let's two. Yeah. Absolutely.Horizon Mann has a question, ask Campy,

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has there been any update or progressmade on the practice facility. Do
you anticipate it being similar to Milwaukeethat you were in in the past weekend.
Well, we're actually you know,we're past the planning stage. We're
in the budget stage. We meetevery Friday on it We have either a
zoom call or on campus our meetingevery friday. The construction company, the

(37:14):
planners, the designs people have beenunbelievable allowing myself and our women's program to
input what we want. And they'recoming back and everything's great. The only
problem is, you know, Iwas the chairman of the guy that built
the arena, so you know,I lived through everything. We went through

(37:35):
this phase and we came back.We had thirty two million dollars at that
time, and when we came backto the meeting afterwards to say, okay,
here it is, well, thisis going to cost fifty two million.
So we had to go to work. Project engineer was a new word.
I learned twenty million dollars out ofthat. So I'm waiting for them
to come back now and say,okay, this is going to cost this,
this is what we have, andhow we're going to project engineer out

(37:58):
of this. I will say this, everything I've told them and our women's
site agrees with me, is wewant the playing surface, the locker rooms
and lounge and all that stuff.Is the priority for me, everything for
the players, and this is thepriority so that they want to be there
all the time. I don't needan office, I told them I'll sit

(38:19):
on a folding chair. I don'tcare about that. I need a film
room. I need a playing area, and I need my players to love
being in the situation. And Ithink they're taking that. And our goal
is to be practicing in there byChristmas of next year, and then the
whole thing by the end of whenthe next the twenty twenty five class reports

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in June that we're fully in it, so we're hoping by Christmas of next
year we'll actually be able to practiceon the floor. Giovanni Muscherry actually has
two. One was for Baru andI asked about this before during the commercial
break, said how high can youjump? I've heard legends that you jump
higher than the highest measurement. Doyou have a number for it? Are
we keeping it a secret? AndGeovanni I was told to tell you that

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they did testing. The test markwent up to forty two inches. Burrew
was above that, so he wasin fact off the charts. His vertical
is off the charts, so kayFelder was off our charts at the time
when he was here too, andthen when he went to the Combine Combine
in Chicago, he actually at thattime that I understand it's been broken,
but at that time he had thehighest vertical jump of any player that was

(39:29):
ever at the combus he stands athird. Yeah, yeah, so Burrew,
you keep working, keep getting seventeenrebounds. We can get you to
Chicago in three years and maybe youcan break that record. He also wanted
to know why is it so hardfor the whole league to win in Wisconsin?
Is it just both teams are goodthis year? What's the story on
that? It's mostly that, butit's also the trip. I mean,

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it's it's just such a long tripcompared to everybody else. Back in the
day when we were in the SummitLeague, everybody was that far right,
so it was commonplace to you know, you go to South Dakota and then
you have to go to South DakotaState, and then you have to go
to North Dakota State, and thenyou have to go to Kansas City.
You were used to that. Here, you get on a bus at Cleveland
State and go to Youngstown, right, and then Cleveland State goes to Robert

(40:12):
Morrison. It's two hours. It'sone hour. Northern Kentucky goes to Wright
State, We go to Detroit,we go to Dayton in you know,
three hours. You know up there, I mean you're going forever, it
seems like. And that's why I'msaying. I think us chartering up there
had a lot to do with thewin. I just it made it an
easier trip. We got home,and it's going to make this week easier

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because you know I was home byin my house by ten o'clock Sunday night.
Yeah, you know that's a bigdeal. Also here with the hashtag
ask Campy, a couple more minuteshere for you to get your questions in
if you got something you want toknow, MD Fund eighty nine, ask
Campy. As fans of our program, once you'll we start rooting for the
team down the road, so theyhave a win, then they have a

(40:58):
win in the second half in thefield goals on the last day of the
season. Not quite sure what hewas trying to say there. Do you
want him to win or no?Before they play us? Yes, yeah,
I would like them to win everygame they play before they play us,
because that's going to help us inthe league standards. I actually talked
with Mike this weekend just you know, try to give him some encouragement,

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not because I want him to winevery just because it's got to be really
difficult what he's going through. Andyou know, he's he's been a coach
for many many years. He's beena very successful coach. He's coaching the
national championship game, and so Ican't imagine what he's going through. And
I reached out to him just tolet him know, you know, them
feel sorry. You know, it'ssorry. He's not the right word,
but here, you know, andI wanted to win every game, but

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when they play us, and Isurely don't, you know, can you
imagine if we're playing for the leaguechampionship and they're playing for their only win.
That would not be a situation Iwant to walk into on the last
game of the season. So Iagree with that. You know, I
want them to win and get thingsgoing and come and come to our place
and play their butt off and webeat them by one. That would be

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great. Gary Gilbert, who ishere with the journalism apartment here at Oakland's
on the journalism classes in attendance camp. February's almost here. Oakland has nine
league games to play, including fiveat home. Seven wins seems reasonable in
that would do you think fifteen andfive will be good enough to tie for
first? Seems reasonable to you,Gary. I'm sure there are many of

(42:30):
our fans that think seven five outof seven is bad and that, you
know, fire the coach and whatever. I'm just worried about repeating Robert Morris.
In all honesty, I've talked withother coaches in the league before the
season started, and they thought.Everybody that I coached talked to thought that

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if you go fifteen and five,you'll win it outright, And that's probably
true. We'll see that's probably trueif you went fifteen and five. I
think I think sixteen or fourteen andsix will probably be a four way tie
or something like that. I justsee that happening. Maybe even thirteen and
sevens an eight way tie. Imean, you just don't know who would

(43:13):
have thought that, I upu Iwould go to Fort Wayne and win.
You know, when we saw FortWayne, they were they might have been
the number one ranked team in thecountry that night, you know, I
mean, they were so good againstus, and how did that happen?
So you just don't know what's goingto happen in our league. And we
got come every night. If wedon't come Thursday, we're not gonna If

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we don't come to play on Thursdaynight, they're gonna beat us. I
mean they are. They're good enoughbecause they rebound and they can shoot.
And if our guys even think aboutCleveland State before that game, we're gonna
lose. And they know it.And that's what I like about this group
of guys. I mean, I'vegot a mature group of guys that want
to win. They want to win. I mean, you heard Brew up

(43:55):
here. They want to win andthey understand what it takes to win.
And so I feel very confident thatwe'll play well Thursday. Camp here's one
from Neil from Washington Township with hashtagask camp be, I'm not gonna We're
not going to relive, you know. So people were heated here talking about
the Lions thing before we went onthe air, Fans of the show and

(44:19):
everything like that. I want toask you about it like this, How
important is identity and playing to youridentity? And because I saw a clip
one time of Joe Dumar's talking.He said, tell me about a good
team that has zero identity. Youcan't like teams have identities. How important
is that camp. The problem withthat statement is that identity of what your

(44:44):
fans think, and identity of thepeople that pay for the tickets, and
identity of the media, and identityof the sports talks guys like you that
are going to go on there.And I was driving a car to Dan
I heard whether it they should havegone for it. That's what they' been
all year. That doesn't mean anything. It's the identity with what's inside the

(45:06):
locker room. That's the identity whenJoe Dumars or people that have coached,
played, been the general manager,built teams. That's the identity they talk
about that they can't explain because Ican talk here for three minutes on this
and half the people are going tosay I'm full of crap and I don't
know what I'm talking about. Butif you've been in a locker room and

(45:29):
you've been surrounded by is what hesaid. We weren't going to allow us
to lose that game. I'm goingto do what I have to do to
win. That's the identity that youwant in a program. This grit or
there's no words on a wall thatmean anything. That's all for the media,
that's all for fans. It's whatthe people that play believe. And

(45:52):
it's not me. There's nothing Ican do. Don't I've never been a
coaching career. I've never made ashot, I've never never got to stop.
We've tried to make the identity ofthis team is that we win with
our defense. How does that becomeyour identity? You go to Milwaukee and
with thirty eight seconds to go inregulation you get a stop, and then

(46:15):
with thirty thirty three seconds to goin regulation, you get a stop,
and then in thirty eight seconds togo in the first overtime you get a
stop, and then you win thegame in double overtime. Then they believe
we won because of our defense,and they take on that identity. It's
not some fictitious We got grit.We're going to be a gamblers, We're

(46:38):
gonna do this. Those people inthat locker room, they don't care about
what you think or what the talkshows hosts think. They think about what
those in what is football fifty threepeople? Yes, what those fifty three
people in that locker room. Inour locker room, it's the fifteen guys
that play. And as much asI want to be part of that,

(46:58):
I'm not. I'm gonna they expectme to sit there and yell at them.
They expect me to try and createa culture. They create the culture
they accept. You got a guythat doesn't show up to practice until two
minutes to go before practice, andthen as soon as I say, okay,
guys, i'll see you tomorrow,he's gone. If they allow that,

(47:20):
that's the culture of your program.But if they grab that guy by
the jersey and say get your asshere twenty minutes before and get your shots
in, and then you where yougo and you stay here, or you
get in the weight room and yougo to work. You don't stand in
the corner in the weight room.That's where your culture is built. That's
where your identity becomes. And thatDumars is right. It's the biggest thing

(47:42):
you can have with your team.You can't win without an identity. But
it isn't the identity that people think. It's the identity that those fifteen players
view themselves. And then I haveone more for you, based on kind
of the football stuff from the weekend, and they should have kicked Austin calmed
down. All right, I didwant to ask you about this too,

(48:02):
and but we've talked about this inthe past. Lamar Jackson, the ravens
Lamar is probably gonna win another MVP. It'll be a second league MVP,
got the big money contract, allthat stuff, But that doesn't matter because
when they announce it, he's theMVP. You know what's gonna happen camp
and the media and social media andall that kind of stuff. What they're
gonna say, when was the votingtaking place? I don't remember the exact

(48:24):
date, but I know that theybut it was before the playoffs. Yeah,
yeah, they don't take the playoffsin So the MVP is for the
regular season, right, so hedeserves it. They have the best team
and yeah, the greatest year.He's the MVP. Screw what everybody says.
He's the MVP. Now, whatwould you rather be? Would you
rather you're rich? You don't,it's not everybody. Everybody wants to be

(48:45):
the MVP so they can get abigger contract, tract more money. But
let's say let's say you're all rich, You've got money, all right?
Would you rather be the MVP ofthe regular season or would you rather be
the MVP of the playoffs. It'sjust like, at the end of the
regular season, we're going to havesome guy screwed it on the All League
team. Lake Lampman's not gonna makeit, or Tray's not going to be

(49:05):
Player of the Year or something likethat, and they're not gonna feel good
about it. And you know whatI'm gonna say to them, I'm gonna
say, would you rather be theMVP of the regular season or the MVP
of the league tournament? Because theMVP of the league tournament's playing in the
NCAA tournament, right, And whenit's all said and done, there's not
one person in the next forty yearsthat's going to come up to you and

(49:25):
go, were you the MVP ofthe Horizon? I mean, I've I've
had, I got three kids,and I was pretty damn good. And
never once has one of my threeboys asked me were you all League?
Were you the MVP of the MidAmerican Commers? How many points did you
average? Or in football? Howmany tackles did you make? Those?

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I mean, those three kids,I hope they love me. I love
them right. They grew up withme. They've never asked me that.
And even if they did and Isaid, hey, yeah, Keith,
I was man. I was theMVP of the Mid American Conference, which
I wasn't. What I'd lie andsay I was right. Is that going

(50:10):
to make them love me more?Is that going to What's that going to
do for me in my life?It's going to do nothing. What is
going to do something for me iswhen I go back with the team that
I want a championship with in fifteenyears and get to stand out on the
arena cord again and have everybody cheerbecause they remember Trey Townsend, you know,
ripping through in an isolation, playingmaking a basket this, you know,

(50:32):
or Brew getting that rebound and kickingit out to Jack and making it
from half court to tie that game. There are people fifteen years from now
are going to remember that and that'swhat they're going to live their life on
it. It's with their teammates andthat goes to the culture of the identity.
And so the MVP for Lamar Jacksonmeans nothing unless he's going to get
two million extra dollars for having itin his contract. And you know,

(50:57):
like there are a lot of coachesthat if you're coach of the year,
you get this in your contract.Well, they asked me about that many
years ago, and I said,don't you put that in my contract.
I don't want a cent if I'mthe coach of the year, because there's
never in my life do I evereven want to think about that. You
know, if I'm worried or thinkingabout that kind of crap, I'm ruining
my team. And so the onlyway anybody should ever think about that if

(51:20):
it's monetarily, you know, somethingfor you You're looking at me like I'm
way over time here. Oh youare? You are? But that wasn't
even the question. But I thinkI think you got you. You understand
how passionate I am about that kindof stuff. I know, I don't
even think they should have all Leagueor all Tournament or all anything. You
know what, why you know,why do we have all League? Why

(51:45):
do we have MVP? Who cares? I don't What was your question?
I'm thinking about asking it, butwe are like super late. That's okay
asking Okay, The point of thequestion was going to be, so when
it gets announced that that he's leagueMVP, social media is gonna fire up
and everybody will kind of clown hima little bit and stuff like that because

(52:06):
we're so Super Bowl obsessed and we'veseen this to a degree, right You've
talked about this that you've even hadto adjust your line of thinking to a
degree because it's about the NCAA tournamentright now. It's not about winning a
regular season title or anything like that. Do we put too much on that
now as a society because people aregonna come on there, They're gonna say,
why why is he MVP? Hecan't even win a playoff game?

(52:28):
Do we put too much on thatnow that big moment? I think their
fans do. I don't. Idon't if I'm If I'm him, I
don't give a crap what anybody elsethinks. Yeah obvious, I mean obviously,
but what my fan base thinks.And he had a chance to leave
and he didn't. So if I'mtheir fan base, I'm pretty happy that
he stayed. And you know,there's their fans are going to do that.
I mean, your fans in theheat of the moment say the stupidest

(52:53):
stuff and they believe what they're saying, and they're gonna rip anybody, you
know. I mean, I've seenit. I've heard it. I had
some guy reach out to me andtold me I have anal cancer. I
get it, but why aintal cancer? That's a tough one, you know.

(53:14):
I mean, that stuff happens inthe heat of the moment, so
you just you let it go andyou understand it once they get back.
You know, right now, thisis a period of morning for the Detroit
Lion fans because they were so closeto something that they've never had. And
then a week from now they'll start, you know, and then pretty soon

(53:35):
we're gonna start thinking about the draft, and we got these great players,
and then next year we wouldn't behere if we hadn't lost that game,
and that fueled us. You know, it's just sports. It's what makes
sports so great and interesting. Theproblem with social media is what you're talking
about, though. I mean,it just it flames fires that should never
happen. Okay, Greg Hasen backin the studio just told me we can

(53:57):
actually keep it for three and ahalf more minutes and they'll come bind the
two breaks. So real quick,let's take the final three and a half.
Are we talking about something important here? Now we're going to now no
cancer, that's true. Yeah,this week Camp Robert Morris Thursday. Want
to see everybody out at the arenaCleveland State Saturday. Note the one o'clock
game time on Saturday afternoon. TheHall of Honor all will take place on

(54:21):
Saturday night. Matt McClellan. MattMcClellan ex basketball players going in and a
lot of the Division IE players don'twant to hear this, but if Matt
had stayed at Oakland and played hislast two I think he would have been
an NBA All Star. I thinkhe would have been the greatest player to
ever play at Oakland. And Matthe we went from the transition of Division
One to Division two and so wehad that four year period we couldn't go

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to the n State Tournament and hegot drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays.
He was a pitcher and he decidedto do that and take the seven million
he got. Can you believe thatcould have played two more years for me
and instead he took seven million dollars? That guy's crazy? What's wrong with
that guy? Matt though? Was? I mean he was six his sophomore

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year, we went to the Eliteeight or Sweet sixteen or something like that
in the division, to a tournament. Hea, it's twenty three points and
thirteen rebounds a game. I mean, think about that six foot eight.
What a player he was, andhe's you gotta be something special when you're
going in the Hall of Fame andyou only played two years. So yeah,
well I'm m seeing that event.So I may steal that line.

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Camp, I'm not going to giveyou any credit, you know, I
won't. I won't tell anybuddy,Neil, I'm used to it from you.
Yeah, hundred percent. No.But Robert Morris, as we talked
about on Thursday, Cleveland State onSaturday afternoon, So a very very quick
turnaround for such a huge, hugegame on Saturday, you just did it.
Neil. I'm sitting here telling Igot two players here, tell him
how important Thursday is. Now you'regoing to talk about a huge, huge

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show Saturday show for show for ahuge, huge game on Thursday against Let's
talk about a huge, huge,huge game on Thursday. No, but
Camp, the moral, the moral. The question is is that that's a
very tight turnaround. Yeah, butthat's you know, that's what the league
does, and we've done it foryears, and I think we have the
staff know how to do it,and I think their coaches know how to
do it too. And trust me, if our place is full on Saturday,

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they won't even be feeling. Theywon't feel what happened Thursday night.
They'll be so excited to play andgo. And that's that's what home court's
about. That's why it's so hardto win up there, you know.
That's why it's hard to win anywhere. Road winds are are jewels, man,
forty five seconds left, camp gotanything for the for the good of
the group, I would have kicked. I would have went for it.

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That's right. That's why you're sittingin that spot and I'm sitting over here.
But we're right next to each other, though, aren't we camps for
many many years, many years?Man. I love it all right.
Then we'll do it for the GregCampy Show. Appreciate everybody coming out.
We'll be back at it next Mondayas always at six o'clock right here live
from RJ's Pub in Rochester Hills.It is the Greg Campy Show. Thanks
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