Greg Kampe Show 12/2/25

Greg Kampe and Neal Ruhl discuss Oakland basketball live from Patti Finnegan's Pub & Grille!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for the excellence score three Travis Vader the
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Rage, Atlanta Hawks select Kay Felder from Oakland University, Kendrick
Nunn and Ketch three and the league Hendrick.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
N It's time for Golden Grizzlies basketball. Let's go live
to the arena. Here's the Voice of the Golden Grizzlies,
Neil Rule.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
What is going onbody?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome back to another episode of the Greg Campy Show.
We're live at Patty Finnigan's at the Oakland University Golf
and Learning Center. My name is Neil World of Voice
of the gold Grizzlies. Of course he is the coach,
Greg camp be in camp. Good trip to Montana, Good
Thanksgiving holiday.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
We're ready for Horizon League play.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Yeah, it's here. We don't like. We don't like the
early December games, but we're playing a twenty game league schedule,
so you have to play, you know, two to three
games in December. I like the fact we gotta buy
we only play one. Most everybody else in the league
place two this week. We've not done well historically in

(01:05):
our early December games. In fact, I was telling our
team the other day if you look at the last
year the league champion opened at home and leak play
in December and lost by thirty. That was Robert Morris.
Youngstown beat him by thirty at Robert Morris. The year
before the league championship, Oakland opened at home in December

(01:28):
and lost by twenty to Fort Wayne and both our team,
you know, we weren't ready for that, and last year
Robert Morris wasn't ready for it. So my whole thing
on tomorrow is get a win. We got to be
one point ahead tomorrow. I'm not worried about mistakes. I'm
not worried about, you know, getting better defensively. I'm not
worried about getting better offensively on Saturday against Toledo and

(01:51):
then against Northern Iowa. I'll worry about those things tomorrow.
I'm just worried about we got to be one point
ahead when it's over.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
And hello to everybody watching on the Golden Grizzlies YouTube
channel as well. You can jump into that chat right there,
drop your questions. If you want to do it via
Twitter x how whatever you call it, I still call
it Twitter.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Because that's what it is to me.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
If you want to tweet with the hashtag ask campy,
go ahead and do that. Questions are already piling in,
so if you have something you want to ask the coach.
We'll be joined by Isaac Garrett coming up in about
twelve to fifteen minutes from now. And for those that
don't know, IG's a lot of fun to talk to.
He could probably do this show by himself, so I'm
looking forward to that.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
He's a different kid. And let me tell you always here,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, he is a ton of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
So I'm looking forward to having looking forward to having
that discussion.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
But camps, we always do. The trip to Montana camp.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Two wins that I've talked about it when you and
I talked about it after the games, we talked about
it all this week. Those were huge, huge victories camp
For those that don't know, they were big.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, I mean those both those two teams would compete
for a championship in our league. I think Montana would have.
If Montana was in our league, they would have been
the preseason picked to win our league. They you know,
especially at their place, they don't lose often, and we
got them in a bad deal where we had a
back to back and they had lost to Lamar two

(03:15):
days earlier, and I don't know the true number. I
was going to have somebody look it up, and I forgot,
But I think it's been like eight years since they've
lost back to back home games, and you know they
have not, but.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It had been almost thirty since they lost one. Right
a non conference home day.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
I think they had won twenty eight non conference home
games in a row or some stupid number like that,
and Lamar, who's really good, went in there and beat
them in a very close last possession game. They Montana
missed a shot with five seconds to go that would
have either tighter or put them up one, and then
they fouled and lost by three or four. I think
we had a double digit lead in the last minute

(03:55):
of that game. So that's how well we played and
they played. If you if you watch the game, you
know this. Their first half was outstanding. We came out,
punched them in the mouth, got up double digits, they
started making everything, got back in the game and actually
got up five or six on us, and we came

(04:15):
out of a timeout. Now, back in the old days,
I get all upset at timeouts. I don't have to
any more. Smithy did it.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
This time, and that's become his role.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah, I just sat there and listened to him.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
But then you get to be the good guy camp.
So it's a great.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Setup and none of those guys think I'm the good guy.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I was just kissing me.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
And we came out of that time out, went on
a seven or eight over run and never trailed it again.
They did tie it, I think fifty to fifty in
the second half, but you know it was it was
really at the beginning of the season when you look
at the schedule and you're trying to, you know, predict
where do you feel good about where you're going to be.
I was hoping we could get one of those two games,

(04:56):
and to get them both, especially after you know who
we've played and the toughness of the schedule. I mean,
the NCAA comes out with the net on December first,
and when it came out yesterday, I disagree with them,
but they had us as the number two toughest schedule
in the country. I don't think it's any question we're
number one, but they had I think it was an

(05:16):
Alabama number one had us number two, and so to
maneuver our way through that and then go on that
trip and play the way we did and see us
getting better, really really pleasing and exciting.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Camp when you look at it too, and you'll hear
a lot about this as you get ready for the
college football playoff. What really struck me was the game
control that we had in that Montana game, and the
game control that we had in the Lamar game as well.
There are swings in basketball games, that's the nature of
college basketball. But when you go when you go back
and you look at time led and those kinds of things,

(05:55):
and just just the field camp, it always felt like,
even when Montana went on that run, it always felt
like we had some control in that basketball game.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
And I think the biggest difference for us is having Hogue,
you know, available to start and play. You know, the
Eastern Michigan game, we weren't sure if we was going
to play. Very many minutes we got him in. I
think he played fifteen. But as a starter, it's really
really going to be hard for a team to find

(06:27):
three guys that can guard our three. You know, when
you've got Ig and you've got Brew and you've got
Michael Hog across that front line. And we were talking
earlier before the show went on. All three of those
guys can put the ball on the floor. We ran
our offense in the last eight minutes of the game
at Montana. We brought Isaac out to about fifteen feet,

(06:49):
gave him the ball, and I think he had four assists.
We had two cutting layups, and those are those are
kill shots in games like that, and we have the
ability to do that. We have the ability to have
a guy like Isaac who's you know, at the end
of the year, I might say he's the best passing
post player I've ever coached. I'm not going to say

(07:10):
that now because he's on that track, but he's he's
showing that ability for a guy that can also score
it and make shots, and he'll make threes and he'll
make his free throws and all those kind of things.
You know, we can we can really really dominate across
the front line at the at the level that we

(07:31):
play at, and it's going to be really hard for
people to make decisions on how they're going to guard us.
And what we did in that game. You know, Hoe
came out and they didn't know him, and you know,
they knew Brew and they knew Isaac, and they were
really you know, they put their best defenders on those

(07:51):
guys and we just isolated Mike got him the ball
on an elbow. Ice took everybody away from him and
let him go. And you know the next thing, you know,
he's got seventeen points in the first half and they're
going to have to pick their poison to make their decisions.
And when you have a point guard that can run
the show and get the ball, you know, Brody Robinson

(08:11):
wants to score. I mean he's he's he's a lot
like Kay Felder and then he wants to score, but
he's a very willing passer. I mean he had in
that Montana game, he had nine assists and he had
twenty three points. Now, what Brody's got to understand is
his scoring's got to be secondary, and he does understand it.
He does understand it. But he you know, he's been
a scorer all his life and has a scoring mentality,

(08:34):
but playing at Oakland and playing with those three guys,
it's got to be a pass first mentality. And he's
it's it's going to be a working progress. But he
was the MVP of the of the tournament because he
had you know, seventeen assists in two games, and his
points have got to come in critical times. He's got

(08:54):
to make the open, critical shot when he double. He's
got to make all his free throws down the stretch
because he's going to get fouled all because we're going
to be ahead a lot. And uh, you know, he's
going to win games for us making free throws and
scoring points down the stretch. He ended with twenty three
in that championship game, but I would tell you with
four minutes going to game, I think he only had
twelve or thirteen and they all came from the free
throw line. So if we can understand that we are

(09:17):
going to be lethal on offense defense, that's another question.
You know, we're a long way away from being where
we need to be. But offensively, we you know, we
can score seven, eight deep into the into the roster.
We can score at every position, and we can score
every way, and that that's really a good thing to be.

(09:37):
We haven't been that way for a decade, you know,
we used to be that way all the time.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
And does it excite you to be back to that
a little bit?

Speaker 5 (09:44):
No, because I just want to win, you know, we
want a lot of games not being that way, you know,
I mean, we want the greatest team. Maybe in Oakland
history wasn't that way, you know, we but it is
a lot of fun. It's fun. Yeah, and people get
a lot of free peats at the games, so you know,
so they like that absolutely.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, shout out, shout out to the buddies, no doubt
about that. But uh but yeah, and camp you you
kind of talked about it too, just Brody and being
the MVP of that tournament with the seventeen assists. I
mean normally you don't get that in those tournaments. You know,
we're the MVP and he's a seventeen assist and the
way he kind of took over the basketball. They must
have really smart media out there at that tournament, that

(10:25):
would be my guest. But anyway, though, camp, so you're
going to say you were No, No, I'm not saying
that at all. People knew out there. That's there were
smart basketball people out there.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
No. But but seriously, though, Camp, I.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Talked about it when Brody was here last week, and
my favorite thing about him is teams are going to
press right, and we've seen teams do that here in
the early season when Brody's out there on the floor.
That's not an option because he'll beat the press himself.
I mean, just put put his head down and go.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
You know, the only team that's really pressed us this
year was Central Florida, and their first couple of times
they did it, it worked because we hadn't seen it right.
But no, you know, there looks gonna be some people
put some pressure on us, man demand, but the only
way we're gonna get pressed is if at the late
game and they have to because they're behind. Because you're
not very smart if you press us. Because Brody's you're

(11:15):
gonna let him fly up the floor with the ball.
You're gonna let Koy fly up the ball floor with
the ball. And we got shooters and we got guys
that can finish. I mean, one of the things we
talked about in practice today is Isaac has figured out,
you know, if I run really hard to the front
of the rim, Brody's gonna get me the ball. And
these guys, these big guys, can't run like I can run.

(11:38):
And Isaac probably is in that those two games out
there probably had fourteen to sixteen points just beating everybody
up the floor. Many of is Brody's assists were, you know,
in transition to Isaac. And you know, I've got to
get Hope to understand that. I've got to get Rude
to understand that too, because we got three guys running
like that. I could we could score We're already scoring

(12:02):
eighty five games, so but we could score ninety maybe,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And you brought it up to with with Isaac in camp.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I've talked about this with him before, and just about
college basketball in general. I think Isaac represents like kind
of the new wave of basketball players in that they're
very their skills are very refined. They can pass the basketball,
they could shoot the basketball, they can score in the post,
you can facilitate offense through them. I mean, this is

(12:30):
guys like ig and and we see this new wave
of players in the NBA and certainly in college basketball
as well. It really has become a skill game, hasn't it.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Well, I think you're right, But to say I don't
think there are a lot of them like that, I mean,
I think he's very unique at.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Our level at yes, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
And you know you're talking I think at any level
other than the NBA. I mean, I think that's what
the NBA wants. But in college basketball, I think Isaac
is a very unique player. You know, he's he's got
to get bigger, he's got to get stronger. He knows
all these things. And the thing he's got to do
is he's got to get better defensively. He's got to
you know, he's got to learn his own and understand it.

(13:08):
And you know, he rebounds. He has the ability to
be a great rebounder. Right now, I'd say he's a
good one, and so I hope in February we're sitting
here talking about him being a great rebounder. So the
you know, this guy, he has no ceiling. That's that's
a big thing about ig. He has no ceiling. But
I will say this too, I think I think he's

(13:29):
at the right place because he's playing for a coach
that understands the offensive abilities that he has, and he's
getting him the ball in those positions where he can excel.
And I might be patting myself on the back, but
I've been here forty two years. I've seen everything, so
you know, obviously having a kid like him is is
I mean, he's a hell of a player, but he's

(13:51):
also in the right system.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Before we get ig up here, Camp, I didn't want
to talk about, you know, the first look at Mike
Hope for a lot of Golden Grizzlies fans over the
course of this last week and some change. Nineteen points
twenty one minutes we saw in the Eastern game as well.
I mean, Camp, he's scoring a ball like almost at
a point per minute like that, that's unheard of him.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Well that's because they weren't ready for him, you know.
I mean I've told everybody all summer, I mean, his kid,
but Hulk scoring isn't really what we need from him.
He's you know, he's that dog guy, he's that tough guy.
He's that you know, he's going to dive through people's legs,
he's going to get the loose balls. He's going to

(14:32):
track down important rebounds. He's got a very i mean
it's ugly around the rim, but it's a very good touch.
I mean it's like a shot put it's really not
a shot. And he spins, and he's athletic, and he's
strong and he and he can do all those things.
He's going to have a lot of games that he scores,
but his value to us isn't Isn't that His value

(14:53):
to us is at the defensive end and at the
you know, the motivation end and the exciting play that
gets you know, the blood pumping and everybody going. And
he and as I said, the biggest thing he does
is he gives us three guys across the front that
the other team is going to have to go, How

(15:13):
the hell am I going to guard these three guys?
What am I going to do? And it's gonna be
hard to z owe us because Brody Robbins and Rody
Robinson and the Scene and Brett and Zaire they can
all really shoot the basketball and we haven't shown that yet.
I think we're shooting the three at about I think

(15:34):
it's thirty six percent, thirty five, thirty six percent, and
which is good, but it's not great. But you know,
we we don't need to shoot the three right now.
We need to establish the ball at the basket with
those three guys and then eventually, you know, they're going
to have to do things that are going to allow
us to shoot wide open, step in threes and then

(15:55):
we will shoot it at forty percent. When we do that,
you give Brody Robinson or the Scene or Brett Smith,
Brett Brett White, a step in three. They're going to
make it right, and eventually teams are going to have
to make that decision. You know, the the gol Key
situation a few years ago. They were not going to

(16:17):
let Trey Townsend beat us, and Goki got some got
going with some wide open threes and then he was unstoppable, right,
And I think we have players like that that can
do that, but that's not what we want. You know,
why would we want to shoot threes when we've got
this dominant inside play. Let's play from the basket out.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Last thing camp before we get ig up here. According
to Ken Pom, who's basically the college basketball one of
the college basketball bibles, I guess is the best way
to say it, Golden Grizzlies offensively adjusted efficiency seventy third
in the nation, so basically a top seventy five offense
in the nation. Just to back up what you were saying, Yeah,
it's real and it's legit. It's not a hot stretch

(16:57):
or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
It's really But what this does show is level of competition.
If we had played a different schedule, we would be
tough and played like this. We would be top four
or five right, we're doing it. I mean we've played
three teams in the top seven in Michigan State's going

(17:19):
to be a top there is seventh. Now we're going
to play a fourth team there and Northern Iowa is
a you know, six and one and considered to win
the Missouri Valley and they're going to be a quad
one team. So we're doing this. You know, if you
look at our stats, we're shooting forty six percent against

(17:41):
defenses that we're not going to see. Right in our league,
we're shooting thirty six percent. But the biggest and the
greatest telling stat that we have is we've made more
free throws than our opponents have shot. And when you've
played eight games and seven of them have been on
the road and at the places we've been, I would

(18:02):
I would say that this has probably never happened before.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
It's an incredible.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
As a person who lives in analytics and has been
around forever, I've never seen it ever. That you know,
you hope every year you shoot more than your you
make more than your opponents shoot. That that's a telling
sign of a great team, and you always want that.
But when you play your you know, seven out on
the road like we have against the level we have,

(18:30):
and you can say you're doing that. The other stat
that I think really speaks favorably to us is we're
one of the best defensive rebounding teams percentage wise in
the country and now we're still giving up more offensive
rebounds than I want to. But who if we play

(18:50):
seven five, seven one or whatever, Purdue was seven three
Michigan or Michigan was seven three six or eleven Houston
one of the best rebounding teams ever, and we still
have Michigan State coming in who's also And for us
to be defensive rebounding at the rate we are is amazing.

(19:11):
We've never done it before. Now, defensively, we're not really
good right now. Our half court defense is not good enough,
and if it doesn't improve, it's going to be along.
We're going to be very frustrated. But the metrics, if
we can our transition defense is outstanding. Other than the
Michigan game, it's been outstanding. Our rebounding is outstanding. We're

(19:36):
not fouling, which is outstanding.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
We don't turn the ball over.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Well, yeah, i'ven't gotten to that. I mean we're given.
We're turning the ball over ten times a game against
who we've played, and all on the road. But we've
never had a stat like that ever in all my
years forty two years, we've never turned the ball over
at the rate we're turning it over now. And I've

(20:01):
had great teams that, you know, we want we want
to be about sixteen to eighteen percent of our offense
as a turnover, and right now we're ten percent, which
is you know, I mean last year, at this time
we were in the playing the you know, the powers
and that we were in the twenties, were twenty two
or twenty three percent, which is one in every four
possessions is a turnover. And as my mentor used to say,

(20:24):
you know, that's like going to the grocery store with
a dollar and taking twenty five cents and throwing it
in the drain before you buy anything.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
You know, it's true.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
You'd say that to our team and everybody, look at
what the hell's he talking about? And as an assistant coach,
I was like, what the hell's he talking about? But
he was right, he was really right.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
So we're only throwing a dime away now, so I said,
you talk about inflation, then that's.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
The reverse of it. All right, we'll do this thing.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Camp We'll take We'll take the first break and then
when we come back, Isaac Garrett will join us here.
We're live at the Greg Campy Show, Patty Bitnigan's at
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Speaker 2 (22:33):
Welcome back to Patty Finnigan's here on the campus of
Oakland University.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
It is a Greg Can't be show.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
My name is Neil Rule, the coach Greg Can't be
out here as well, and right now, as promised or
joined by Isaac Garrett, the man known as Ig off
to a very very good start for the Golden Grizzlies
this year. And yeah, giving up for Isaac everybody, and
Isaac good is good to sit down with you. It's
almost like you and I, for whatever reason, always end

(23:00):
up sitting next to each.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Other on the airplanes. And we are on airplanes a lot.
We've had a good treak of luck, we absolutely have.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
But finally, I g we get to have the conversations.
So just take what we talked about before and we'll
just bring it to the public light. But before we
get into it, if you want to. If you have
a question for Isaac too, you can go to AX
with the hashtag ask Campy drop that in there. We
already have some hunting questions that people want to know
about and everything like that. But just backing up to
what Coach Campy was talking about, kind of your assessment,

(23:30):
Isaac and you are you are a very honest guy.
You you say things the way they are this team,
and you personally from the tip at Michigan to now
tell us about that that voyage, I guess you could.

Speaker 11 (23:45):
Say, yeah. I mean, I think we obviously had our
struggles at the beginning of the year, and playing those
really good teams was a good opportunity for us to
figure ourselves out a little bit. And you know, it's
a brand new group of guys. Pretty much the owner
of your turners are in the seam in Peru and
I'm Warren. So figuring each other out has been a

(24:05):
has been a journey for us, and I think we've
turned it around and started playing good basketball. And I
still don't think we've figured it out, but we've been winning.
So it's been a good sign for us that good
times are coming.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
You told me when we were coming back from Michigan,
you were like the size out there on the floor. Yeah,
I mean he's still you have kind.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Of some flashbacks to it right now. And for those
that don't know you came from from Snow Junior College,
I believe something that your exact words were something along
the lineup. I've never seen a collection of size like
that on a basketball court before, all on one team.

Speaker 11 (24:41):
Yeah, for sure. I mean I have no problem playing
against dudes that are six eleven even seven foot, but
that big fella at Michigan, like as my first Division
one game, he was a game changing player, you know, Like,
but the class I'm wide open at six feet and
then all of a sudden, here comes Superman block my
shot off the board. I'm not open like man.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
It's tough.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
No.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
But again though, I mean the cliches are true, right,
Like a shot blocker in the middle has a shot
blockers present doesn't have the block the shot to change
the shot.

Speaker 11 (25:13):
Yeah, absolutely, And he's everywhere without being anywhere, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
So that is a good That is a good way
to put it.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Isaac Garrett our guest here on the Greg Campy Show
live from Oakland University Campus at Patty Finnigin's So, I
g I guess the that day, right that night, that
incident to now, what's been the biggest change.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
I would say, I mean, obviously the level of competition
has dropped off with playing Lamar and Montana, who are
very championship caliber teams, but it's not Houston, Michigan Purdue.
But I'd say blending in as a group has has
as I mentioned earlier, has come along. You know, we're
playing together and the zone is not camp set, is

(25:59):
not where it needs to be, but there is flashes
of greatness in it and we've seen it and we
know what it can be.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Talk about that process, Isaac, and we touched on this before,
just the process of learning. The zone is the primary
way to defend. It's built a lot on communication, and
as much as it's built on communication, it's built on
timing as well.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I e. When one person.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Makes a mistake, you spend the whole possession chasing them
mistake to try to make up for it.

Speaker 11 (26:28):
Yeah, and it's a process getting it down, you know,
especially with the brand new group of guys. But we
have good practice days where we make a step and
we can feel it in the locker room after practice, Like, Wow,
that made zero sense to me two hours ago, and
now I understand it today. We kind of had one
of those days, and we don't always have those days.

(26:50):
But the more of those days we can stack, the
closer we're going to get to being where we need
to be.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
All Right, Isaac Garrett off the floor. We got the
basketball stuff handed. This is the stuff I'm.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Here for now to sit here and chop it up.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
For those that don't know, you're big, big, big in
the outdoors, fishing, hunting, all of it.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
We haven't asked, Isaac.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Question here from Giovanni, Mucherry for Isaac, how does the
hunting in Michigan compared to back home?

Speaker 11 (27:18):
I would say it's it's easier for me to get
out in Michigan, you know, back home in Utah, I
want to go shoot an elk, I gotta go drive
two hours and I gotta go hike four hours, you know,
so you know, not four hours. I'm being dramatic, but
any hike is too much hike for me. I don't
want I don't want to hike. I don't like hiking.
The only reason I hike is because I need to

(27:38):
get out there. Yeah, but yeah, it's easier to get out.
I'm obviously different animals. In Michigan. You got white tails
out here. We don't have any white tail deer. In Utah.
It's all meal deer, two different species of deer. But uh, yeah,
it's been nice for me. Being a college athlete. Most
of the time, I'm not going to be able to
have time to get out, but in place like Michigan,
I can.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know, he also wants to know what's the biggest
deer you've ever.

Speaker 11 (27:59):
Heard to play? I shoot dinker Bucks. I haven't shot
a big deer in my entire life, so I'm not
gonna play. I packed meat in the freezer.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
It's what I do.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
So okay, So so you're purely purely for the.

Speaker 11 (28:14):
If I had time, I've had a little bit in
high school. I got after chasing big Bucks, and I
wouldn't shoot smaller deer. But not with my scheduling. Now
now I'm letting. I'm letting arrows fly.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
What deer meat item does panty fin agains need to
add to the menu here and they could call it
the Isaac gear. Yeah, I like full full disclosure. I
think deer meat and chili is elite, I do.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I think it's great, it's very very good.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
What is Paddy Finnigan's need to add to the menu
here that's made of deer?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
In honor of Isaac.

Speaker 11 (28:43):
Gear I think we got to get a venison burger
with some pork fat and just a little pub burger,
a little venison pub burger.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
All right, they've got it. They're writing it down over there.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I see them over there. Yeah, they're writing it down.
They're writing it down right now. Tell us about your
journey to Oakland, Isaac. You're you're somebody obviously that that
was heavily recruited. What brought you to Oakland? What led
you to come here to play basketball here at Okland?

Speaker 11 (29:09):
Yeah, No, playing junior college and in Utah gave me
a great opportunity to get recruited and guard Crew do
a lot of good schools, and uh, you know, credits
to coach Smith Smithy, that's my guy, and uh he
was everywhere, you know. I remember we played in Uh.
I forget what state Indian Hills is, and I think

(29:30):
it's Iowa. We're in Iowa and we get off the
we got off the plane and I see Smithy standing
at a baggage claim, I'm like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Like?

Speaker 11 (29:39):
But no, he recruited me hard and we made a
really good connection. And uh, you know, I think, uh,
the cards just lined up. I think, uh as far
as fit connection with the coaches and uh, just looking
at it from a black and white good decision, bad decision,
it just lined up.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
When you hear Campy talk about it and we discuss
the numbers and what this offense has been doing, what
this team has been doing, and then he talks about
you and he says, this could be the greatest passing
big Man that I've ever had. And you've seen the
banners in there, you know, you know the people that
have come through this come through this program. What does
that mean to you to hear?

Speaker 11 (30:22):
You know, honestly, I was just talking to someone about
this the other day. When I hear good stuff, it
just makes me want to do more good stuff, you know,
I when I'm doing good, I just want to do better.
And you know, hearing those good compliments it lights more
of a fire underneath me to keep that up and
keep doing what I do at a high level.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Isaac, before we let you go here, this team and like, look,
we just saw Mike Hooge. We've had him here playing
now for like a week and a half during the games.
This what we're seeing. And we again we've been going
through all the numbers and stuff like that. You don't
see a front court like this in in the Horizon
at least I haven't during during the time that that

(31:05):
I've been here at Oakland. We've been in the Horizon League.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I mean, you guys could be scary good, right, Like,
is that a good way to put it?

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Yeah, I'd say for sure. You know, three big guys
that can get to work, and we saw it with Mike.
Came out of there like a man and he got
on the board quick, back to back to back. So
having him back is a huge addition to us and
taking off pressure from Brew and myself. You know, a
Brew a lot of times he's got all eyes on him.
They know he's preseason player of the Year and they

(31:34):
know that can't let him get going, and that also
helps me, but it also helps Mike to divvy up
the attention even more.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
All right, well, Isaac, we appreciate you being here. For sure.
We'll keep it going on the airplane rides together and.

Speaker 11 (31:48):
We're beginning roads ourself. I don't know. It's like a
good streak we've had and roads to ourself lately.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, if you're willing to sit all the way back in,
but hey.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
The juice is worth the squeeze, say something. QUI absolutely yeah,
your your.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
Show Spring Turkeys is coming up. So if any guys
got some land with turkeys on it, you hit me
up on Instagram and I'd be glad to come take
care of your land for you.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
We're getting some thumbs up from the people out there.
What's the process like if I want to you're talking
like Thanksgiving stuff smaller.

Speaker 11 (32:19):
In Utah, it's May. I think it's I think it's
April and Michigan. That's when the turkey season in the
spring starts. But it's a hoot.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
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Maybe next week?

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Speaker 2 (34:10):
Welcome back to mcgreg can't be show, We're live and
Patty Finniggins and the golf course at the Oakland University
Golf and Learning Center on the campus of Oakland. He
is a coach, Greg Camp. He mind him is Neil
Rule Happy you are with us? If you're listening on
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If you're watching on the Golden Grizzlies YouTube channel, jump
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(34:33):
you ready to answer some questions of your own?

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah? Before I do, though, you know, Isaac supposedly killed
the deer and I said, all I want out of
it is some you know, Jalipino beefsticks, and he said, sure,
don't have I haven't seen. So we're gonna We're gonna
hold this Isaac garrett Berger until either I get those

(34:56):
or he takes us to the UNSAY tournament. Okay, if
he takes us to the NSA turn next summer, we'll
have the Isaac Garrett Berger until then. I you know,
I'm waiting on the results, okay, or I mean and
I would. I'll let you know if you want to
put these sticks on your manitube once I if I
ever get one.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
All right, he's not his head, he says, fair enough
spring Turkeys Camp.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Huh yeah, I'm not a Turkey guy.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
I do want to bring this up though, for everybody.
Many people in here have been coming to this show
for years, right, and we always kid about how we're
the highest rated whatever. Last week or two weeks ago
on the show we talked about I brought up that
we were might go to Dubai. Right, that got national news.

(35:43):
So how the hell did the national media there must
be listening to.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Us Camp highest rated right on this station time.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
I must have gotten ten calls from coaches ask you know,
how'd you get that anymore? You know? And some national
media guy tweeted out and some guy, if you go
to Dubai, I'll never cheer for you again. And it
was crazy that what happened. For hey, if we get
the money that they're telling us that you don't have

(36:12):
to have a cheer for us against.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's turned your back on people money. Okay, no, but
it is. It's the fastest scoring radio show in the nation.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
So there it is. You read to answer some more questions?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Can sure?

Speaker 3 (36:27):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
If you want to jump in, there's still a little
bit of time with the hashtag ask campy, send your
questions to Twitter x whatever you call it. Matt who
enjoys Horizon League Basketball hashtag ask campy. Any concerns about
the arena being colder than usual with oak with the
heating issue at Oakland University.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Oh, it's going to be. I would tell you to
come to the game. I would bring a coat, but
it's cold outside, so you're gonna have a coat anyways.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Right.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
But you know, we've played in a lot of arenas
that have ice rinks, and our players are used to that.
It's you know, we go out for warm man. This
was a cold one. That's probably how it's going to
be tomorrow. We're doing the best we can and it'll
be comfortable. It won't be you won't. You'll notice it
when you walk in, and then when you leave you'll
forget about it. If we make shots and we win

(37:13):
the game, you'll probably say maybe we should keep it.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Colding all the.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Classic campy answer. Wes Levy on Twitter hashtag ask campy.
What's the one arena you haven't coached in yet that
you want to and have a shot at scheduling someday
and then he's got a two partner, so we'll handle
that first.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
The only one that we haven't that I have never
coached in that I want to is Madison Square Garden.
I've been in it. I've been to a game. I mean,
it's the mecca. It's it's that I've talked to Saint
John's about it, and they won't play us there if
we place Saint John's, they want to do it on campus,
and I'm not going to do that because they don't
pay enough.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
All right, fair enough? Did you beat Rick at golf
one day or something?

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Or like what's the no nod? They just you know,
they don't think they would. There aren't a lot of
people in New York that are going to pay those
kind of prices to go watch Oakland beat Saint John's.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Right, No, I get it, Wes Levy.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Second part, And what's the one golf course you haven't
played and have a shot at playing someday?

Speaker 5 (38:18):
I've They just came out this year with the top
one hundred, and I've played nine of the top ten
courses in the world. And uh, the one that you know,
the one golf course that I've never gotten on is
Augusta and I would. I just had a new grandson.
I'm not sure i'd give that grandson to play on it,
but I don't think my son would let me, but

(38:38):
I'd think about it. I mean, no, I Gusta is
the only the only one that you know. I want
to play Augusta. I've walked in, I've been at the Masters,
and I would love to play Augusta. There was a guy,
a famous football coach, who was going to get me
on it and never did. And I still cheered for

(39:02):
his team even though he said he would do it
and didn't.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But that's not the one that said he would never
talk to you again if we played in Dubai.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Is it no?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Okay? Good?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Pittsburgh, Marty in the house.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It surely has become obvious to Horizonley coaches that we
are very strong on the baseline, A three headed monster
in Berrew Hogue and I G. What do you anticipate
moving forward in terms of opponent's defensive schemes.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
I think that you know you're we're gonna start seeing
some double teams. We're going to see mixed mixed defenses.
You know they'll double brew that. Then they might double
not double Isaac. Then they double Isaac and they don't.
Montana did not double Isaac. They doubled Berrew and uh,

(39:46):
you know it's hard to double Isaac because he's such
a good passer. So you know, we'll just I think
every team will will come up with their you know,
just like we do. And we're getting ready to play somebody,
we come up with what's best for us and how
we match up best. You know, I mean that's a
good question. I not really sure. I mean, I think
we'll see a little zone. I think we'll see a

(40:08):
bunch of different things. And you know, we got to
do it in the league first. I mean, just us
sitting here talking about it, because we did it against
you know, the first aid games of the year. We
still haven't done it in the league. We've got to
do it tomorrow. We've got to do it at Northern Kentucky.
We've got to you know, we'll worry more about that
when February gets here and how we're going to win
in March.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Marty also asked if anyone plays own against us, will
you think they can't coach?

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Loll Well, yeah, that's really funny, Marty. Yeah, I know,
I Eastern Michigan played us a little zone and it
stumped us for a couple of possessions and then we
figured it out. But we hadn't seen it all year,
So you know, I I we're ready for anything. That's
that's my job and my staff's job to make sure

(40:54):
our team's ready for anything. And I don't go into
any you know, we're more interested in a game plan
on how we're going to stop Fort Wayne tomorrow night,
not as much as what they're going to do to us.
We're more worried about how we're going to stop Fort
Wayne and what we're going to do. Most of our defense,

(41:15):
our practices, eighty percent of our practices our defense. Now
you wouldn't think that looking at our team that you know,
we score eighty some of the game, and we're not
very good on defense right now, but eighty percent of
our practices are prepping for what they do and how
we're going to stop it. And maybe that's some arrogance,
because I believe we can score against anybody anyway, and
I believe that as a coach. As I'm watching the game,

(41:36):
I can figure out where to get the ball and
who to get it to and how we can score.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Gary Mcareck with the hashtag ask Campy, can you walk
us through how recruiting works in today's name, image and
likeness environment and how the team works to compete.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
In this space.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
No, I mean Isaac Garrett is here and he just
talked about it. I mean we're out. We believe to
win that you have to be old, and we want
to be old. And so we're really not recruiting high
school kids. We're going to bring in one, maybe two

(42:12):
at the most in a year. We want to use
the portal and we want to use junior college. And
part of the reasons we want to use junior college
is because Jeff Smith and Bobby both have you know,
Bobby coached at Garden City coach junior college. Jeff Smith
has recruited junior college his whole life. He's a tremendous recruiter,

(42:35):
as you just heard from Isaac. But he knows we're
connected with junior colleges and we want we want Isaac
Garrett at age twenty. I don't want him at age eighteen.
I want him at age twenty because in this environment,
that's what you want, you want older. So we're recruiting
older kids. I think older kids make more rational decisions.

(42:59):
I think old their kids are more ready to play immediately.
And but the recruiting processes like it used to be,
it's still the you know, money is a big part
of it. I mean, it's just blatantly that it's you know.
I mean, Isaac and I had a conversation about money,
and Isaac said, I want this number to be you

(43:23):
know whatever, and I said, I want you, Isaac, I'm
going to find a way to get that number, you know.
And he turned down more money. He was offered at
Florida State, a lot more money than we offered him.
But he Isaac's a smart kid, and he realizes that
his future, there's a lot of money out there in
his future, and not to grab now and build his

(43:44):
future where he can make a lot of money. And
he's doing that. I mean, he's proven, he's proven he's
the hell of a player and he you know, so
that's really what recruiting is now.

Speaker 10 (43:54):
You know.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
It's Tomzell made the statement, man, it's not about the money,
it's about how much money, and he's right.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah, no, absolutely. Also to part two of Gary's question.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Is is there a general manager? Of the program like
Damian Lillard at Weaber State. If not, who would you
make it?

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Steve and I have talked about that, you know. My
My answer to that is, and I've talked to a
lot of coaches that have general managers. I have a
very close friend who just became I played golf a
lot of golf with who just became the general manager
at Notre Dame, and we've had conversations and what his

(44:38):
role is and what his job is. And you know
that that makes would make it a lot easier on
me because I wouldn't have to have that conversation with Isaac.
I wouldn't have to you know, somebody else is having
that conversation with you. But the reality of it is
at in Oakland. Why I'm out fundraising, trying to get

(45:03):
as much money as I can so that I can
keep Isaac right right? So why would I pay somebody
some of that money that we could right if I'm ready?
You know what I mean? It just doesn't make sense
at our level. If I'm at a power five where
you know we're going to have I mean, Michigan's payrolls
eleven million dollars, their team is eleven million dollars. Kentucky

(45:25):
is twenty two million dollars. I guess they can afford
a salary of seven hundred thousand for a general manager
or whatever. You know that that just wouldn't be smart
at Oakland to do. But we I mean, we've talked
about it. There's nothing that's out there that we won't
talk about and consider. And trust me, I have a
great administration I have. I know she's here tonight, but

(45:48):
I have a great president. Not just saying that because
you're here and that you offered to buy me dinner.
All right, It's true. I have a great president. I
have a great athletic director. They want to win. They
want to win, and they understand. One of the things
about my presidence. She's on committees. She sees what's going on.
She's not in her office where somebody's telling her we

(46:09):
got to do this and they're going to lie. She's
involved in it, so she knows why we have to
do these things. So we communicate, we talk, and we're
gonna do what's best for Oakland in what we can do.
I mean, we just we can't rob Peter to pay Paul.
We can't do those things. But we're gonna do. We're
gonna understand the landscape, and we're gonna figure out a

(46:31):
way to win, and we're really good at that. We've
proven that that's true.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
One last one on that camp and just kind of
a follow up to that. How difficult is it sometimes
for you as this landscape changes to maybe look at
something and how things are being done now that kind
of runs counter to the way that maybe fifteen years
ago you would have thought that things should be run.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
How difficult is that?

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Sometimes it's not difficult at all because I love what
I do and I want to do it, you know.
I mean, I think everybody in this room has to
make tough decisions in life. And if you love what
you do and you know you got to change, you change,
you know. I mean, I'd love to You know, when
I was playing football, that coach would grab me and
throw me to the ground and grab my face mask

(47:17):
and when he's yelling at me, be spitting on me,
and thinks I can't do that today, right right? That's
how I grew up, and I mean I respected that.

Speaker 10 (47:27):
You know.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Could you imagine if I did that to a kid today,
what would happen? I mean, you know you right, there
wouldn't be maybe from you know, Oakland County Jail, there
would be I don't know, but you know you you
you do what you have to do, and so I
don't even worry about those say I don't worry about
fifteen years ago. I'm worried about fifteen minutes ago, you know.

(47:50):
And you know, sure I'll pull out I mean, I
got mad at our team yesterday and I pulled out
the old you know, those guys hanging on the wall
here wouldn't this. This isn't gonna happen if they're here,
or if Blake Klatman was in this gen today, this
wouldn't happen. I'll pull that out because it's true. But
I'm not. These kids don't give a crap that I
walked uphill thirty miles to school every day. They don't

(48:14):
care that I did that, right and forty miles back home?

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Right.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
They don't care that I did that. All they care
about is what's in front of them. And we have
to understand what's in front of us, and how are
we going to be successful? How am I going to
make Isaac Garrett the best person he can be, the
best player he can be and have a life that
when he's sixty years old, he's going to look back
and say, God, darn it, I'm glad I went to Okland. Right,

(48:39):
That's what I have to do, and I don't care
about all the past.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
All Right, Well, let's do this. Let's take a break.
When we come back, we'll talk about tomorrow. We'll talk
about this weekend. Need to see everybody out at the arena.
We'll be back with more the Greg Campy Show, We're
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Speaker 3 (49:07):
Lisa.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
How is your injury?

Speaker 8 (49:10):
It turned out to be just a twisted knee.

Speaker 7 (49:12):
When can you return to Zoomba?

Speaker 8 (49:14):
Maybe next week?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Lisa? One more question.

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Backslash Athlete all Right Camp Tomorrow, Perdue Fort Wayne is
in the House. Horizon Leaku play Away we Go I
know it's December second that we barely digested Thanksgiving, but hey,

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we were talking before.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
This is where it is, so that's what you gotta do.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Yeah, it's you know, one game and we got to
find a way to win. And you were prepped. We're ready,
you know, we we understand who we're playing and that
that same team came in here two years ago and
beat one of the greatest teams in Oakland history and
really beat yes, and you know, it's not going to

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define And it's like I tell our players, there's twenty
hurdles out there, there's twenty league games. You take them
one at a time. You're gonna knock a few down,
you're gonna clear hopefully most of them. And at the
end of the team that knocks the least amount of
down least a mount down, wins. And uh, you know,
so whatever happens tomorrow night, we're ready to go and

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get ready for the next one.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
And tomorrow, as a matter of fact, out at the arena,
it is Tropical Day, ironically enough, brought to you by
Tropical Smoothie Lays will be given away for the fans camp.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
So there you have it.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
What was I saying about my administration.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
So come on out.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, Tropical Day as a matter of fact, so so
that that will.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Be given free smoothies if we score ninety five or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I don't know, that's that's not my department, Camp, I
don't know. Saturday to Toledo is in town and and
those are big games. That's in the Eastern Michigan game
family for me, you know, as a fan as and
alum and all that, and that will be military appreciation night.
That's always a good night. So come on out Saturday,
three pm. Tomorrow at seven pm, and like, look, Camp,

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I know you. I'm not even gonna waste the time
because tomorrow's Horizon League. And in camp from day one
of the season, wherever we are in the country, when
we're done playing our game, there's you. You're watching the
Horizon League games. You're asking for updates on the Horizon
League scores and and all of that. I mean, this
is this is what it's all about, man.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
This is why we're in that league for a reason.
You know, this is this is our peer competition. This
is who we're supposed to beat. These are the games
that man. And you know the other thing about this is.
I mean, it's December third, tomorrow will tomorrow and we
haven't played a Division one pointent. We played you know,
two exhibitions and anne d one team at home. It's

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it's nice to be able to come home and play.
And I'm sure hope that, you know, despite the cold
and despite the campus situation everything, our fans show up
because we need our guys deserve us them to be there.
Our students need to be there because this is this
group has a chance to be special. And all the
great teams we've had have had tremendous support, and you know,

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we need we need that.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
What's the toughest part about this early December Horizon League
conference and everyone's going through it, like we talked about,
I mean, Michigan State's playing Iowa tonight. What's the toughest
part of the about it for you?

Speaker 5 (53:47):
Well, you're not ready, you know. I mean Calvin Samson,
coach at Houston, made a statement when they finally lost
the game and he talked about the team to beat
him and he said, man, they played well, he goes,
my job isn't to play well in November. My job's
play well in March. And that's that's the truth and

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you know that. But Michigan State's playing out tonight and
it's tom Izzo's job to find a way to get
be one point ahead and not care what they look
like or not care if they're playing good or not.
You know, we're going to be so much better in
February than we are today. It's not even close. But
Fort Wayne's going to be so much better in February

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than they are tomorrow. So we've got to find a
way to be one point ahead, and that's all that matters.
We're going to make a lot of mistakes defensively. We've
got to rebound to basketball. We can't turn it over.
We've got to play our tails off. We got to
dive on the floor for loose balls, and we got
to play with you know, with great enthusiasm and great

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energy and be one point ahead and worry about getting
better against Toledo and those teams. As I said earlier,
and you know, film will help us afterwards to get better,
and we will. I mean, we're still, as Isaac said,
you know, a bunch of new guys trying to figure
it out. We could play great tomorrow. We could play
the perfect game, or we could play very poorly. The

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bottom line is when it's over, you got to be
one point a half.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I have I have an update here, which weirdly, he's
in the room, but I'm getting it from social media
right now. But that's the time and space we're in now.
There's an update on the Halopenio venison sticks Isaac Garrett
via x.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
He released an official statement via x.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I'll take no questions at this time, camp, but he
says Camp, He's Lapeno venison sticks are in my freezer.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I'll get him to you on Thursday, coach.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
So we have some movement in the Halopeno venison sticks market.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
I believe it when I see it. I'm always the
last guy they think about.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Okay, well, you know we just you know, that got handled.
That got handled. We talked about Mike Cole being introduced
into the lineup. How does that change what you do?
Just in terms of as you can game plan for
Purdue Fort Wayne tomorrow, just just to add a dynamic
component like he is. How tough is that to navigate?

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Just in terms of what you're going to do.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
It was easy for us because everybody on the team
knew he was going to start right we've been here
since June, we've done everything. He had established himself among.
I mean, everybody knew that Isaac was going to start.
Everybody knew BARROTI was going to start. Everybody knew Mike
was going to start. Everybody knew Baru was going to start.
Right we had that just that fifth spot that was really,

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you know, one that was a little bit up for grabs.
So when he came back, I mean players, I mean,
he practiced one night and he did something I can't
remember what it was, and Baruu just looked and said,
when are you coming back? You know, I mean, they
wanted him back, So it was easy to get him

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and insert him into the lineup and just pick up
from where we were going. So it from a coaching standpoint,
that's always easy because if you play five six games
and somebody's been starting and they you know, and then
you're gonna take them out of the starting that can
cause problems. Right, So it didn't cause any problems. Everybody
expected it, and it's a smooth transition. And he's played well.

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I mean he's averaging seventeen points a game, and I
think the two games he started and maybe sixteen or
fifteen overall, and we won both games he started. So
you know, it's one of the things we can say
since he's been back in the starting lineup, we haven't lost.
I hope we can say that at nine oh one
tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
We'll probably about nine oh four. You know, those games,
they they're running past the TV windows a little bit
these days.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
That's because we get fouled so much.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Now, well, that's a great segue to the question I
was going to ask. Sure, how are how are league
games officiated differently than non conference games?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Are they?

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Well, everybody watched the Montana game, right, that game was
really officiated, right, I mean.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
You're digging your own holes.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Yeah, I'm not one of the officials. Came up, and
I mean, forty two years, I've heard everything until the
other night. He said, my wife told me that she
heard you're a really good guy.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
She must listen to the show too. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
He lived in on the West coast. Yeah, my wife
told me that you're supposed to be a really good guy.
And I said, I don't think she's ever left one
of my games, has she? I mean, think about that statement.
It's funny, but think about that statement. I mean, my wife,

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she listened to the show must it Must show, Yeah,
it must be. You know in those situations in the
in the Big Ten Games, in that we've established ourselves.
We've won so many of those games that the official,
you know, I used to say, you know, I used

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to in those games, call official and go, we're here
to win, not get the paycheck, and yeah, yeah, right right.
You know now I don't have to say that anymore.
They know, those officials know they've had us enough, they
know that we can win those games. And I thought
we got pretty good officiating those games. You know, when
you're getting paid to play a game, you're gonna have
to win by double digits to win. It's just the

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way it is. And in those Big Ten Games, I
thought the fishing was fine. When you go out on
the other side of the country and you get people
that don't I'm sure those officials thought we were from California.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Right probably.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah, they've never had us, they don't know. And you
play the brand of ball we play where we can
run and we can we're athletic, and we can do things,
you know, to We made more free throws in Montana's shop,
but that was basically because they fouled us down the
stretch trying to catch up. Right, You're not gonna get calls.

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It's just the way it is. You know that. The
players know it. We discuss it, we keep our mouth
shut and we just play.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
All right, camp Well, that will do what we are
out of time, and I hope to see everybody out
at the Orena tomorrow, certainly on Saturday as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Toledo's coming in town.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
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