Live in the Vineyard with Tayshia Adams, Scotty McCreery & Morgan Evans

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
with i R Radio. Oh my gosh, I'm telling you,
ash you love Napa Valley. I love Napa Valley. This
is your new home. I feel like you could actually
move here. You and just want to settle here. Honestly.
This like I'm walking around and it happens every once
in a while and I fall in love with the place.

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I've never been to Savannah, Georgia, but I already love it. Um.
You know, I love Denver, but I'm walking around Napa
Valley and I and it feels I'm it feels like home. Yeah,
I can. I can sense that fast. It's wild that
this crazy little podcast. Why haven't you been to Savannah?
And if you know that, you think it's going to
be at home. I just don't want to be disappointed. Well,

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I my aunt's wedding. This was all the way back
when I was seventeen years old. She got married off
the coast of Savannah and one of those islands, and
I'll remember it for life. It's one of those places
I want to go back. And I was just seventeen.
That was literally half my year, my life late love
my life ago and you still remember, so I still
remember it so vividly, and I have a desire to
go back. There's places like that in Michigan too. Anybody

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out there listening, I want to I want to hear this.
I think this would be interesting for us to read.
Sometime emails have been in Ashley, I heart media dot com.
Where your favorite like hidden, not hidden? Gym's nap is
not hidden, but like hidden? Jim like, where are your
favorite gems? Maybe in the world, let's go let's go
global here, and then also in the US, because if

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this podcast is hitting the road, let's go visit Oh
my gosh, that would be an amazing idea if we
went on the road. But then we also just went
to places that you and I had a desire to explore.
So cool. So I think the first stop should probably
be Savantage. I think should be Savannah, Georgia. Napa Velli
has not disappointed. The almost famous podcast continues to take

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us to great places, and it also continues to put
out incredible content, not because of Ashley and I not
because of Ashley, not at all, because of listeners like
you continue to tune in and support us Today's podcast,
and because of Easton in because of instance of us
every week and barely ever gets to chime in. But
you know what we should do and in depth with
Easton one day. I think it would get I think

(02:09):
it would get really interesting. Um. But on this podcast
today we have some massive guests actually, like they're they're
not almost famous, they're straight up famous. Oh yeah, they
they It's funny that they're coming in on the almost
famous podcast. We should like start telling them when they
come on, like, hey, we're almost famous, you're not like
you actually help us. It's gonna tell Scott to career.

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That was like, I think you might be the most
famous person. Let's see how your acts. Um, we have
Scotting Career on the podcast, Morgan Evans, we have Tassia
from Colton season. We're gonna talk hot topics. There's a
big few going down with Kelly Rippa in the Bachelor franchise. Uh.
And then also speaking of famous Ashley, I didn't get
to tell the listeners. I want to talk a little

(02:53):
bit about my time on stage in Marrying Indiana is okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you did a play. We're all really confused. You never
told me about the And then all of a sudden,
I see on your Instagram story that you're on stage,
So what was that all about? A big deal? So
before we bring on our guest today, I teased the
end of last episode that I talked about this and
uh my, my promises do come true. Um okay, So

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I'll have been waiting with here's the situation. My cousin,
Olivia is. Uh. It's just an incredible person who has
has grown up in in Swazie, Indiana. It's right outside
of Converse, right outside of sweetzer Um, close to Marion.
People out there listening, nobody knows any of that because
it's a very small little area. Anyways, long story short,

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she has been in theater her whole life and I
went to her her first play years ago and have
not been able to go back because her first starring
role was when I was on the Bachelor and I
was gone filming. And so this is her senior year
of high school. It's her last time being in this
community theater. It's called c s A and it's a
community theater that puts on incredible semi professional um uh

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plays and musicals and this year they're doing Greece, and
Olivia reached out to me, and this is how the
conversation went on. Shes Hey, Ben, would you want to
come being in my play? Would I want to come
be in my play? In your play is a trick question?
Should I be? Why should I be in your play?
She said, it would just mean a lot to me.
I said, okay, you have two options here there. I
come to your graduation, right, come to your play. Because

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it's a long flight and they're back to back weeks.
She was much ready to be in my play. So
I committed to going and being in her community theater.
It's a three day play. I was Vince Fontaine, which,
if you know anything about Greece, Vince Fontaine hooks up
with a high schooler. Is he out of high school? Though?
Oh yeah, he's like the voice on the radio. Is

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he the guy that hosts the dance problem? He hosts
the dance party. Yeah. So, not only am I asked
to be in the play, I'm also has to be
the creepy old guy, which is just fantastic since you
know my I'm a little beat up already for turning thirty. Um.
But anyways, I did a three night stand in Mary
in Indiana, and I just want to give them a
shout out. They were incredibly kind to me. Uh, Marian

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was incredibly kind. You know who showed up Jenna Cooper's mom.
Jenna Cooper's mom, Oh my god, she from Indiana. She's
from Indiana, and she came to say just like thank
you for like supporting Jenna through like this crazy experience
and super sweet. Anyways, the fans, the fans in Indiana
and just the people in Indiana continue just to make

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life warmer. I hope we can go and do it,
maybe a podcast in India Center so that actually you
feel the love. I should go to your hometown. Oh yeah,
you go to mind. That's a great idea. Let's do it.
We already have three dates. Now we're filling up fast.
We gotta start selling tickets or it's gonna get expensive. Okay.
Uh So that was my time on the play. That's
why you see a post on Instagram with me in

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a pink tutu um supporting breast cancer awareness. Moving on, now,
we have a really interesting topic that we want to
talk about before we room Tasha on. We're talking a
little bit this morning over call Offee about why the
Bachelor franchise continues to stay above the fray. Why why

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viewers conttinue to watch really from from all ages. I
don't know when kids start watching, like fourteen and up,
and I don't know when the appropriate ages. There's not
really a reason to state it. Fourteen is a good
age to start. That's when I first watched my first
couple episodes. But The Bachelor internally, and I think most
of these rallity shows call themselves like a Tiffany type

(06:26):
reality show, like the that the peak reality shows. You know,
your survivors, your amazing races, your Bachelor's, they're Tiffany type shows.
So let me explain how we got on this topic.
I have been watching the past week or so of
Paradise Hotel, and I was just telling then how I
feel like it's such, it's just trashy. It's a dating

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show and it's trashy. And I was like every other
dating show I watched other than The Bachelor feels uncomfortable
for me, Like if I were to put myself in
their shoes, I would just feel like a fish out
of water, just very yucky, ikey. I don't know, I
can't describe I can't really describe it. I wish I could.
I think like I've always been like a conservative data,

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you know, like I've never been like a party girl.
So whenever I see like these, um what's the MTV
show that um X on the Beach and stuff like that,
other other cable reality shows as well, I'm like, what
is there about The Bachelor that just feels more tasteful
and classy and it feels like an environment that I'm

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comfortable watching and being in. What's the difference? And I
can't exactly pinpoint it, but he goes there's actually a
term internally for that. It's called a tiffany reality show. Yeah,
they're staying about the friend. I wonder I'm gonna say
something absolutely assinine and I think I'm gonna get a
lot of laughs at because of it. But I wonder
if there's a level to The Bachelor and to these
other reality shows that like, even though it walks a

(07:52):
very thin line, they do it well and it's a
tad life giving meaning that they're so they are truly
you're feeling like they're actually celebra writing love. You're feeling
like there's actually something good that you're getting out of it,
even though there's moments where like this is trashy, the
concepts weird. Holy cow, this is odd. There's still something
to why you're watching the Batchelor Batcher impared, I see

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you go, but there's a reason why, and that reason
is is worth watching for. I think the undertone, while
it can get dramatic, is still romantic. The undertone is
always romantic. The other shows, I feel like the undertone
is sex great point and as a result, we feel

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like we're intruding on somebody's personal space too much to
where it makes us uncomfortable. And it starts too and
I think we can feel this in life, right, We've
seen this with and I'm not trying to compare these
other shows to porn. That's a pretty drastic comparison, but
we know that the studies show that when you watch
porn that it messes with your mind, it messes with
your heart, it messes with your your sex sexual function,

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and your sexual instincts. And so as a result, like
I wonder if when we watch shows that are going
against the grain too much or pushing sex too much
on us, our minds switch to a place of darkness
and kind of heaviness instead of being able to watch
it with a lightness, like we watched The Bachelor. Now
there's moments on The Bachelor. Trust me, I will never
forget Hannah Gee and Colton's makeout scene last season. It

(09:16):
made me feel all sorts of weird, but but it
was a moment in a show on a pursuit in
their journey, and as a result it made sense. Yeah,
I was gonna continue by saying, on The Bachelor, we
see we see a couple, maybe not a couple, but
we see people date over the course of weeks, and
we see them on romantic dates, which leads to a

(09:40):
fantasy suite. And it's even called a fantasy suite, which
sounds light and like enchanting. Okay, yeah, But then on
Paradise Hotel, for example, the first day, people have to
choose a roommate to share there, to share a hotel

(10:03):
room with, and like that's just the difference a roommate
to share a bed with versus yes, fantasy suite whatever,
Like you're into it's so far okay, yeah, actually you
know here And I don't think Jess, we'll get too
upset with me, for she won't get upset off. I
don't know if she's ever got upset with anyone in
your life. Um, but like that would that's that would

(10:26):
not be where we're in our relationship, and like that's
a very personal thing for me to talk about. But
like I know, for Jesse and I six months in,
like that is that would be an uncomfortable position for
us because that's not who we like, That's not who
we are as a couple. That is not a line
that we've crossed. We've chosen that as a couple right now.
There's moments that we've had to because of weddings or
you know, hotel like efficiency, but for the most part,

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we we've set up boundary there and as a result,
like going on a show like that would be completely
foreign to our relationship now. So you're just because of
the world, right, she's a lot better of a human
or has a lot more higher moral standard than I do.
But the jest because of the world, would never be
able to operate on that show because think about if
she walked onto it, walked in not knowing maybe what

(11:10):
the show's concept was, and then they say you got
to sleep in a bed with the guy and she's
like who. Immediately, yeah, I'd be like, oh, this is
not the show for me, I have to leave. I'm sorry.
That's but she would look crazy because of it, right, well,
she would look like odd girl out. Yeah, which is
which is unfortunate because I think there is a level,
there's definitely a level to life where we need to

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help hold ourselves a higher standards. Everybody else does as well,
And and somehow some went no, I'm not gonna say.
And this ties right into our conversation a second with
with Taysha, we'll talk about Kelly Rippaum. It tries in
perfectly and it is what is the Bachelor that bad? Now?
I get it, Let's laugh about it, let's make fun
of it. But is there some good still to it?

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And as a result Ashley again, we'll go back to this,
the proof is in the pudding. We say this with
generous all the time. This is our motto because gets
weird in this world is if one person's life's changed
for the better because of something, then the pursuit was
worth it. You're gonna get married because of this show?
So is it that disgusting? No? The perfect example was

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just one or two lines that shows the difference between
the bachelor in this Paradise hotel is that when you're
in Paradise the morning after, when you're sitting around recapping
the night before, a lot of people will be like,
did you guys kiss? Did you kiss? On Paradise Hotel?
They go, did you guys, do you guys have sex

(12:34):
last night? I'm like, I'm like, wait a second. You
guys are legitimately asking if they slept with this person
the first night they ever met. It was so gross
that weird. It was so out of my world and
not and not crazy to have happened, right, Like, it's
not foreign or or unfamiliar. There's no there's no judgment

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to people that do choose to do that. But typically
isn't something you're talking about with a group of people
around you and being asked about by everybody. That's a
private thing. You know, it happened whatever, Like we we
we move on and sake it like one night stands
don't happen. I'm not shaming anybody, but you're saying it's
odd to walk into a room and have everybody go, hey, Jeff,

(13:15):
sex last night. I hope that question is never asked, never,
even in honestly a marriage. I don't want my sister,
I don't want to be Christmas morning. You walked down
to breakfast at mom and Dad and your sister go, hey,
do you guys have sex last night? Ja gives her
a high five and says, hell, yeah, we did. Um

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Hey after the breakering, be on to talk a little
bit more, a lot, a bit more about the Kelly
Ripper situation and also what's going on in Tasia's life,
what she thinks of Hannah and everything good and Bachelor Nation.

(13:57):
As promised, we have Tashie on the podcast today. Tashia,
welcome on the finished podcast. We just pulled Tasha actually,
uh from upstairs. She was watching our our guest, Morgan
Evans perform. Is that you Is that your first time
seen him perform? My first time? And he was unreal?
So now she wants Morgan Evans to be in paradise,

(14:20):
but unfortunately he can we make that happen, mar We
gotta clone him, a single clone. I mean, I'm sure
we can work something out. Let's talk about this for
a second, because he has his way about him. Right.
We're Eastan and I are sitting there listening. Yeah, you
were charmed. I was charmed. I was charmed. East and
I both were. We had our hands on our chins

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and we were gazing lonely at each other and at
the ceiling and around and at a Morgan Evans. What
is it about it? He has like confidence in a
little swag to him. I don't know, and he doesn't
try too hard. I feel like, yeah, guys who like
are naturally good looking, plus they have the swag and
they think country music. That's the perfect try factor basically,

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Like that's why Sam Hunt is as famous as he is.
How does it feel in life when all of a
sudden you find you have a crush, like you just
had a crush as of ten minutes ago, Like, do
you feel a little weird right now? I mean a
little bit. I'm kind of liked butterflies in my stomach.
Tasia and I were talking about how it's well Jared
and I had this argument all the time. I'm not

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sure if we brought this up on the podcast, but
since I'm such a natural fangirl, I like will be like,
oh my god, he's so cute or he's hot, you know,
like whatever, and I have to like almost do it
on this podcast, and we talk about the guys from
the cast, and I have to be like a little
giddy over everyone. Right, But Jared is thinks of such
a double standard that girls can get away with being like,
oh my god, he's so hot, he's so cute, and

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like talk to their girlfriends up there like, you know, whatever,
no big deal. But if Jared were up there talking
to guy friends being like, oh, she's still hots, Like,
it's just not a loud he just doesn't like me say,
talking like saying complimentary things towards under other guys. But
it is, overall, in the big picture, something that girls
get to get away with that guys don't like. Even

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my mom she'll be like, oh my god, he's so cute.
If ever said oh my god, she's so beautiful, my
mom would look at him and years later, Right, that's
a good point. How do you feel if Jess we're
to talk about a guy's appearance, I mean, I don't
think i'd mind. You don't think anything of it, right, No,

(16:27):
I mean she was like, oh he's so Yeah, she
does it all the time, like even with her like
friends boyfriendship. Yeah, he's he's a really good looking guy.
We can get away with good looking, Like Jared will
be like, she's just a good looking girl. Okay, well
she would say I think she would say it and yeah,
I wouldn't think twice, but you I'm sure she wouldn't
be down. Yeah, I would never say that out loud,
like she's a pretty girl, but I would never say, hey, Jess,
isn't she really pretty? Yeah? Yeah? Or like if we

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sat and up if we sat upstairs and watched Morgan
Evans perform for brunch and UH say it was reverse
like it was a woman who was up there doing
it and we came down and asked if somebody was here,
and we're like, I was like, oh wow, that was
good for me. I don't think that he was great though.

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So are two guests uh from country music on this
podcast today, Scott McCreary and Morgan Evans super talented, super charming,
really great and uh and Tasha, you have all those
qualities as well. We want to start this uh not
talking about you, which is unfortunate because it's great to

(17:31):
talk about you, but we'll get to that. We're finishing
up a conversation about the Bachelor and why it seems
to be what we're calling the Tiffany of reality shows
where it kind of goes above the fray yet walks
a line where people are criticizing it, and people go, oh,
this is uncomfortable, this is weird. This concept seems maybe gross,

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but yet it doesn't feel dirty to watch all the time.
There's ultimately a larger love story being displayed now sently
in the news. If you've been watching Kelly rippap Um,
the host of The Kelly Ryan Show, trashed the dating
franchise The Bachelor bachelorrette Um, even though she is part
of ABC Network. Um. Instead of reading the quote, let's

(18:14):
listen to the clip. I thought that one got married
to the guy that was here, the guy the guy
Hulton was here last, that was the best bachelor. But
they didn't get married. That's a different woman, an entirely
different You know how I feel about the show. It
disgusts me. And I thought that I was disgusted because

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I couldn't stand the idea of exceptional women fighting over
one ordinary fella. In my opinion, you know how I feel, Ladies,
we are too special to be arguing over a guy.
You know. The words it disgust me, obviously were said
from Kelly, and it's relating to this sason of the

(19:00):
Bachelorette with Hannah b Tai. I want to know your
point on this, what do you think about the show
being disgusting? So so my first point to this, and
I'm I'm obviously I'm going to take the position of
being defensive of the franchise at some level. There's obviously

(19:20):
criticisms that you can use and say. One is I
don't love that Kelly is acting unfamiliar with the franchise.
She's done her show and had every bachelor and Bachelorette
on for the last how many years? She knows how
this show works. Like, I hope she knows how the

(19:41):
show works. It doesn't sound like she's really invested any
time in getting to know the show. So she shocked
that there's a new bachelorette that's coming from the franchise,
just amazing, amazed that there's a new girl every year. Well, yeah,
there's a new girl every year, Like, oh my gosh,
there's a new one. Another one, Yes, Mrs Rippa, there

(20:05):
is a new one every year. That's the one thing
that is surprised to me. The next is her the
words she used that it's disgusting. Why is it disgusting?
That word is very harsh, I think, and rude. Yeah,
she's saying it's disgusting because there are so many people
going after one person, they're fighting over them. Um yeah,

(20:25):
I don't know if that's the appropriate term. I find
it offensive because obviously there's love stories that come from it,
mine included. So I hope that the way that my
love story unfolded, even though it didn't happen in like
the traditional bachelor bachelorette stting, it happened in paradise is
I don't want it to be ever thought of as gross.

(20:48):
That never would have ever come to my head, right, Um, well,
I think the biggest issue here is that it's kind
of reverse sexism because here she is saying that all
women on this show during the Bachelor's season are extraordinary.
She doesn't really know them, but they're all exceptional, right,
and then the guy that they're going after is ordinary.
Why why is she assuming that he's ordinary? He's not ordinary?

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And I'm taking offense from all of my friends who
have been the Bachelor that they're not ordinary man, and
I would never refer to them as that they are
truly extraordinary. They are not saying anything less than the
women because all these bachelorettes are fantastic. They're like so strong,
they're they they had the best personalities, they're beautiful, they're smart,
Like they're wonderful women. But that doesn't mean that the men,

(21:34):
a good handful of them aren't spectacular. My deserted. Yeah,
and then like she's also basically not even acknowledging the
fact that it does reverse the situation reverses. And then
there's twenty five guys after one woman. So is she's
saying that all twenty five of those men are ordinary

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and they're going after one extraordinary woman just because based
on sex doesn't mean you are. You're not extraordinary, right,
I don't know. I think she put her foot in
her mouth and that on that one. Honestly, equality is
obviously an important topic today in all matters equality. The
pursuit of equality doesn't mean that the other side has

(22:17):
to get out of balance, right, equality is equal, both
sides are equal, or people are humans. I think this.
I think she's walking a line that she does. She
doesn't exactly know what she's walking into, because, as you said,
I would hate to be categorized and stereotyped as being ordinary.
I don't know, I'm on the belief that there's no
single human that's just ordinary, that every human has a story,

(22:41):
and that when you know somebody's story, it's complex and
you it's you know, as we say in a few
weeks are a theme with a Man of Stanton is
once you know somebody's story, it's hard to hate them.
There is not single, one, single person that's been birthed
and lives on this earth and that has survived and
thrived on this earth that is an ordinary person. So
at no level is it fair to categorize me, you,

(23:04):
anybody else into that, and anybody off of the show
into that. Now you can criticize the show, I get it. Yeah, fine,
Like I don't like the structure of people going after
one person. That's a little bit weird to me and
it makes me feel awkward. That's one thing. But you
can't just group these people together and call an extraordinary
ordinary as if she knows everyone the Yeah you can,

(23:26):
you can. You can criticize the show. The show is
fair game. Do not criticize souls, Do not criticize humans.
Um because what you're you know, as a as a
as a woman, what she's trying to protect she's honestly
harming by the words that she's using, and that that's
just clear that that there is nothing about what she

(23:47):
said that's healthy, that's life giving, life breathing, that's pursuing,
pushing us in a better position. What does she want
the show to be canceled? It's not going to get canceled.
So what is she doing in return? Does she want
to hurt and affect every person that's on this show? Well,
good work, Kelly, you have a voice and you've done that.
And as a result, there's people standing up in favor
of the show and and even non fans of the

(24:08):
show saying, let's watch yourself here. These are real people
dealing with real situations and we've signed up for it. Right.
Let's celebrate women and support girl power without having to
bash bash guys, bash guys while doing it. Weird thing,
weirdest part of it. You're on the same network, like
ultimately on the same team. What are you doing anyways? Uh,

(24:30):
we had to talk about it. It's been a huge
topic all week. Chris Harrison spoke up about it, and uh,
and obviously it's all over the airways. US Weekly has
covered it, people have covered it it will be a
topic for a little bit. I think it's gonna fade soon.
The point of all this is there's no one uh there,
I think to some all of this up noverybody on
the table saying is there is not one ordinary person
that has ever done the show. And I believe there's

(24:51):
not and we believe there's not one ordinary person that
has ever walked this earth. That everybody is extraordinary, or
at least we should start thinking that way. So with that,
the extraordinary Tasia is on the podcast. Let's talk about you,
yes years old from California, uh phlebotomist um or at

(25:13):
least as we talked about in the last podcast, we
think so um and uh, you're on Colton Underwood season
of The Bachelor. Okay, Ashley, I think I want to
start here. Let's go back to Colton season the Bachelor. Okay,
after all of it's done, and said, what are your
thoughts on Colton? Um? I really like Colton. I think

(25:37):
he was very sweet to me. He has a big
future ahead of him. I do think that he has
a little bit of growing up to do. Um, but
I think the world of him. I'm always interested in
this and I think we've ever asked a guest. You know,
you had a relationship with Colton, uh during your time
on this season. It was growing and it was exciting
and you're getting to know each other and you didn't

(25:58):
know where it was going to end and all of
this things. And now we're months removed. He is obviously
with Cassie and they're pursuing their relationship as healthy as
what we hope they are. UM, but now you know
he let's look at him as an X right, even
though it might be hard to do. Does it feel
like another world? Ago? Like, do you feel connected to him? Still?

(26:20):
Does he? Does? He? Does he have an emotional place
in your life? You know, I thought I had moved
on from it, um, but I'm not gonna lie. I
did see him at stage coach and kind of my
stomach kind of you know, my heart dropped a little bit.
Not because I missed him or I still am in
love with him, but it's just he did have a
little I totally get that. It was so weird for

(26:42):
my women. Tell all, I was like, you know, I
got on the plane the day after I was done.
I was totally different situation from you. I was like
seven places you were top three. But I saw crist
Souls come out on stage four months after, you know,
I left the show, and like it out like I
was seeing a crush walking down the hallway towards me.

(27:03):
It was so weird. Well, I feel like it's you're
in such an intimate setting being on The Bachelor. I
feel like you're thinking about this person all day every day,
and you're really trying to see them be in your future.
Um it's just kind of weird that the second you
get eliminated, it's all cut off, like it's gone. You
don't really talk to them, you don't have their number
to text them or whatever. But it's also probably healthier

(27:25):
that way, much healthy you get over it faster. But
at the same time, I don't know if you necessarily
have closure what I mean, no, no closure. So even
though I did see him at after the final Rose,
you know, it's we're still on TV. It's not like
I'm sitting at a booth with him at a restaurant
and we're just like, Okay, it was good, thank you,

(27:46):
you know. Um so yeah, my heart kind of dropped
a little bit. What was his reaction to seeing you? Um, well,
I was at a couple of girls, and I think
he said hi, yeah, well you'd expect like he handled
it fine. I mean, to be quite honest with you,
it would have been nice. It would if he would
have came up and said like, Hi, how are you doing?

(28:07):
Not that he needs to be interested in me or
just but we did have, you know, just like and
said yeah. He kind of just through his little peace
sign up. He's like hey, and I was just like, Hi,
let's positively let's talk about this for a sake. I
haven't quite undergot this yet. Is the peace sign like
a thing or is it just his reaction? Because like

(28:27):
I do, I do this thing with my hands. My
buddy Dylan, my best friend from from high school, he
does this weird thing with his hands when he sees people,
and he like moves his fingers in kind of like
a creepy wave way, and he doesn't mean to. It's
just like his reaction, right. So is Colton's reaction like
a peace sign? Like? Is that like what? He's just
like his thing? I think it's his acknowledgement. It's like

(28:48):
I'm acknowledging you hey, peace sign? Huh, Because it's in
pictures a lot doesn't he's saying peace. She's not saying peace.
That's like his version of going like hi is a
peace sign. Oh, I didn't know. I see it in in pictures.
I was a little confused because, like, you don't see
a lot of people throwing up the peace signing with you.

(29:08):
I always I used to throw up the piece signing
quite a bit, and in pictures with like the duck lips,
that was a big thing back there. Yeah, so he
threw up the piece sign at you, Um, which is fine.
I wasn't expecting this man that you were falling in
love with him, just a matter of bunths ago a
little awkward. I just wish he was with Fassi. Yeah,

(29:29):
and she said hi, and it wasn't like weird. And
I don't know, I don't know how. Yeah, it's a
good conversation because I don't know how you handle those moments, right,
I mean, if right now I ran into Lauren with
Jessica on my arm, I know that's not the same.
That's like you running into a girl from your season,
hence Amanda, and you would be way cooler with Amanda,
and you would be cooler with Jojo or anyone. Yeah,

(29:52):
I guess so, yeah, because like it is something you've
shared together, it's something that you know is a little weird.
I wonder if in his head he just did didn't
know how or what to do. And I think that's
that's what I mean by I think growing up, you
know what I mean? He honestly could have just came
up and been like, Hi, how are you doing. I
hope you guys are having fun, Like I'm not expecting
like a huge conversation. But that would have just cut
the tension, slash the awkwardness, and I'm like, Okay, we're

(30:15):
cool as opposed to does he hate me? What's going
on is awkward? You know? Seeing nexs is weird. Next
shows is odd. I can't imagine that Cassie is putting
pressure on him not to talk to the other women. Yeah,
I mean she ends with Calin all the time. I think.
I mean I humped her. I said hello to this
is uh in batination. You're going to see these people.

(30:37):
This happens all the time. It's always been an interesting
talk to me, is when you see the bachelor that
is dumped you, what is your reaction? I asked, Amanda, Um,
she's here in Napple with this, Amanda Stanton Is I've
asked her, you know, what was it like your thoughts
on me after the show? Like did you hate me?
Were you angry at me? Um? You know I ended
up proposing to your best friend, Like were you happy

(30:59):
for us? Are those things? I think for a while
it is a little confusing because you have a relationship,
you care about this person, and then all of a sudden,
at a rose ceremony, which this is one part of
this show that is completely odd, you say goodbye and
you're done, or in the caseta you're done. Yeah, it's

(31:21):
it's it's a weird deal. I'm sure Colton will navigate
this thing the best he can. It sounds like he tried,
but I get it there. The thing that sucks here
is there's no closure and a piece sign at a
concert isn't going to help that, not really, but I
don't know what would. But it's cool. It's cool. I
know we sound like broken records because every week, whenever

(31:41):
we have a guess that is quite possibly going to
be on Bachelor in Paradise, we ask, so, who do
you want to see there? Yeah, but it's a legitimate question,
and we know the producers are asking you the same thing.
But isn't it nice that they ask? I mean, it's
that they want to be a little to help abound,
and you know, they just they ultimately want us to

(32:03):
fall in love and help us out in any way
they possibly can, which I love, But also I felt
it was ridiculous my first time around. To be honest,
I was like, I'm not gonna like anyone. I was like,
if you want me to stick around, you're I don't
know what you're gonna donna come up with some weird
method to keep me around because I don't like anyone, like,
I don't like people like I don't like guys like
I just I was like, I like a guy once

(32:24):
every two years, and I'm sure you don't have that
guy in your catalog. Well look a look at the irony.
It could not be more ridiculous. But Tasia, try to
take it as seriously as possible. Right now, who do
you actually think that you could be interested in? Well,

(32:47):
there are some attractive men on Hannaby season. Let's talk
about that real quick. So a couple names come to mind.
See if I name any of them? Right, Peter the pilot,
who's like you been you see the resemblance a little bit. Yeah,
he seems like a better dude to me. He can
fly a plane. I can, I mean I can mow
my lawn. Um. Con the Connors, Jed and John Paul

(33:10):
Jones are some of the names that pop off. Also,
fans are calling Matt Donald who was really last week
the new season's grocery storts Joe. I don't think I
agree with that, but I do think he'll be in
in paradise. Are any of those names of the guys? Yeah,
you know who else people are talking about who's not
on our list here that I think last week we
raved over over and over again. He was super nice.

(33:31):
Dude is Mike? Yeah, Demi and Katie had really good
things to say about him, and they are watching him
in first person. So yeah, I think some of those
guys are pretty cute. Actually, But which one? Connor s right? Um,
let's talk about jawlines. I think we can compare them

(33:51):
by jawlines. Cornor s was like the I feel like
like that all American guy. He was twenty four. They
kissed on the couch inside the dining room. I know, Yeah,
it's got to be him. I think you're talking about. Yeah,
he's able, very adorable. He just has like a cute

(34:12):
baby face that I just I don't know if you
can see country. If he can, then it's a game
over see. I love how like not seriously you're taking
this and I can't wait to watch the Week one
of Paradise and you'd be like, I really like him,
stilly who else? Um? I also think Tyler is pretty cute. Yeah,

(34:35):
everybody thinks Tyler is cute. Yeah, I mean, how could
you not though, Yeah, he's a good looking I don't
like the fact that you don't know. I mean, my
dad always says, I'm like, Dad, isn't that guy attractive?
He's like, I don't know. I think, what do you
mean you don't know? I'm pretty I think I can
tell when the guy's attractive, Like, but sometimes it's a
little shocking, like that guy doesn't look like he wouldn't
stand out to me, like looking to me, then that

(34:57):
guy like I was upstairs at Morgan Evans with googly eye,
It's like, I think that dude's good looking. Yeah. Yeah,
By the way, I just wanna let anybody know that's listening.
If you hear some background noise, people walking through, music,
playing drums beating. We are live in Napa Valley listening
to Morgan Evans and Scotty McCoury at a at a
brunch concert. It's beautiful. There's brunch at the Blue Note

(35:21):
downtown Napa. It's amazing, just such a beautiful place. Wine
is flowing, drinks are coming in and Morgan Evans and
Scottie and then also gone West with Colby Calais. Amazing.
You share your story, your day dreams. Yeah, we'll get
back to Tasia in a second, but let's talk about me.
So I was weird. I walked upstairs. Uh right, now

(35:43):
we're downstairs, and so it's a little quieter for us.
But again you can hear some background nowise but he
as we walked upstairs to grab some food and I
walk into this this woman just started belting from the stage. Yeah,
And I'm like, wow, her voice is crazy. And a
guy next to me and the brunch line goes, yeah,
that's coolby Calais, and I kind of did your thing.
My heart skipped a little bit because I have for

(36:03):
a long time dreamed of what like had a fantasy
and like we're really one of My only fantasies I've
ever had is waking up with a wife that could
sing to me the way Colby cal A sings, Oh
my God. So then I asked, well, does Jess have
Colby's voice, or saying I don't know if she does,

(36:25):
it's maybe a day Jannet won't come true for you.
It's okay. Colby is beautiful. Her voice was magical, and
I never thought I would see her in person. So
when I was shocked, it was like, there's like a
you know when you yeah, you know, when you fantasize
about somebody and you make it up in your head
and you have this crush as a kid, or as
a high school or as a car or as a

(36:46):
thirty year old, and all of a sudden, like you
see that person in your like in person for the
first time, and you're like, I feel like, creepily, we've
had a relationship for like ten years. That's kind of
how I felled upstairs. It's like, why are you up
there with an other man? Her husband? That hurts me
and I'm in the audience and I've got to watch.
It's not cool. Uh So yeah, anyways, gone West, Scotty

(37:09):
McCary and Morgan Evan's playing upstairs and Tastia sitting down
with us on the podcast. Let's get back to you.
So we've talked about Hannah Bees, guys and who you're into.
What about from past seasons? Past seasons? Um, let me think,
Let me think. I think Blake's cute. He's gonna have
a hard time on Paradise. That dude is gonna be

(37:32):
I think like the Tastia's um of the world. Okay,
what's gonna Let me finish this real quick. I think
Blake is gonna have a hard time because I think
he is a really good dude. He's a good friend
of mine, he's really good looking, and I really like Blake. Um,
I think he's gonna have the dean stuff where some
some women are gonna be after him because he is
a good guy and he's worth the pursuit. And he's

(37:53):
going to be into some women as well, and they're
gonna be pursuing each other back and forth, and I
think he's gonna get himself into trouble. My theory. So
going in to Paradise for the girls, they will only see, well,
this year is a little bit different because the Bachelorette
started so early, but normally the girls only get to
see about two episodes of the Bachelorette season before going

(38:15):
to tape Paradise, so they don't really know the guys
that well. You know, they've only seen maybe three to
five minutes of each of them on screen at that point.
And normally it's the guys from past seasons who they've
looked up to as like almost celebrities, though, the guys
that they want to see going in because they're like,
oh my god, he's like such a big deal. He's
so cute, Like I used to watch him as a fan.

(38:38):
So it's like getting your celebrity crush in Paradise versus
these guys that you know, they're new and you don't
know anything about. So that's why I feel like Blake
is going to be a big ticket. What do you
think about that? I do? I really? I mean, I
think I think all the way around, Blake is going
to be a big deal. I also think you're I

(38:58):
don't know who else we've talked up being there. I mean, Chase,
I could see being in Paradise this year. I think, yeah,
he's he's gonna have wouldn't he do it, Like, why
he shouldn't he done it yet? I don't know. I
mean he's done next on the Beach. You should definitely
do Paradise, M Dean. I think we'll probably be there.
We've talked about it before with him, we joked about it.

(39:19):
He hasn't confirmed, but you know, Blake, like, those guys
are really good dudes who I like, and they're going
to be big tickets. And then you have a group
of women who are going to be there, who I
think are incredible. So we've gotten to know most of
you through this podcast, and I think this year's Paradise
will have an incredible cast. Yeah, I'm super excited. Incredible cast,
So Blake from past anybody else? It's always fun. I

(39:42):
like this game. You know, were you a fan of
the show beforehand? I only watched the season with you,
like I watched here and there the others. But yeah, OK,
so no names really stick out to me anyone else.
Here's my next question for you, because here's one thing

(40:02):
that I hope doesn't happen, but it's great for us
when it does. Is we like you. You're a friend
of ours. You've been on the podcast now a couple
of times we've traveled to NAPA together. We've spent some
good time hanging out. Um, no judgment on from this podcast.
Trust me, we've seen it all, we've done it all,
we've been in and all. You should ask Ashulely. She's
done some crazy things and you should ask me. I've

(40:24):
done some wild things as well, some of them. Um,
that's some weird stuff happened. But people come on the
podcast before Paradise end up going on Paradise and we
see an emotional breakdown. We see we watch our friends
on television just lose it or flourish into love. If

(40:47):
you were to predict right now how Paradise plays out
for you, what would you predict happens? Um, I might
have a breakdown, I think. So. Really why, I feel
like I'm at a place where I'm really happy with

(41:07):
being single and being me, but I want a relationship,
and so I feel like I'm going to put myself
out there. I'm going to be authentic and myself and
really like lean into the situation. So I'm gonna be vulnerable,
and I feel like I might just give my heart
to someone. This is why I kind of laugh, because

(41:28):
I watch you guys just being so innocent, naive to
the whole the power of Paradise, I've heard. It's just
different than it is than The Bachelor was because with
the Bachelor, it was more of a sorority. It was
all about hanging out with your friends, cooking, drinking wine, traveling.
And you barely ever saw the Bachelor, you know. I mean,

(41:50):
you've got more time with them because you got so far.
But as far as like your day to day activities,
sevent your days was just hanging out with the girls
in Paradise. It's it's dating experience completely immersed in like
your it's your whole life because you don't get to
escape the people that you like and the people who
are trying to date the person. Why am I doing

(42:13):
this when put myself also like a way for me
if I compared the two experiences, was much more of
a growing and self learning process. Well that's why I
felt about The Bachelor. Yeah, and that's why I'm thinking
about dating Paradise to because I transformed so much. One

(42:33):
piece of advice because actually I have been around this
for a while. I've never been a Paradise and um,
but we have done the podcast and talk to many
people and seeing the ups and downs of this franchise, right,
people coming off the show as a villain and being criticized,
and people coming off the show is the beloved and
being celebrated. Don't be scared to be vulnerable and let
your heart go because ultimately, even at the worst case

(42:57):
scenario ends and heartbreak, I don't think you'll read credit.
And we haven't seen anybody come on and go I
regret it what we have heard because people come on
and say I wish I would have allowed myself more
of an opportunity to explore it. Now, pain can happen, right,
And that's kind of why I say I think I'm
gonna have a breakdown, just because like I feel like
I'm gonna be vulnerable and I'm going to put myself

(43:18):
out there, and I don't mean it in a bad way, like,
but I just feel like I'm really gonna lay it
all out there. Yeah, yesterday, you've been saying that you
think you may have been too careful about how you
appeared on the Bachelor. Well, it's not that I was
like trying to be something I wasn't. I just I
was a little more reserved. You didn't see my silly

(43:39):
side a bunch um, which, as you all know, I
am pretty loud, outgoing and silly. But um, that's why
I want to bring to Paradise systemmer. I want you
guys to see more my fun side as opposed to
a composed before. We heard this before Dean and then
I was black boxed twice during this season, and I'm

(44:00):
going I'm hearing Dan talking about getting a little Peter touched.
That's so funny. But you're right, you can't hide as
much in Paradise though. So if you did feel like
you were reserved in the Bachelor, I think it gives
you a space of environment you can get away with
being reserved by think in Paradise just like an emotional explosion. Yeah, great,
it's great. We're going to get to good notation on

(44:22):
a whole new level. All right, Um, My last question
before we jump into the recap for this episode, episode
two of Panic season is, Um, have you been in
touch with your ex husband at all? Oh? No, so
he you don't know how he's been affected or feels
about you being on the Bachelor. Um, he did actually

(44:44):
reach out to me once wow the season was playing,
and he said he was proud of me. That's nice. Yeah,
and he said, um that he was happy that I
was being myself and he wishes the best for me.
So that was nice. Um, that was before you know,
that's probably like the third episode. Ut the know how

(45:07):
far you got? What queen? What he thought? It's are now?
I don't know, Tasha. We're gonna take a break here
for a second. When we come back, we're gonna break
down the second episode of Hannaby season And at the
same time, we have some reader emails that I want
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(47:39):
So I have five questions. Let's answer them as quickly
as possible. The all emails from listeners. I want to
make sure we run through these so short answers preferably,
but make sure you express your opinions first question or
first emails from Kristen. Kristen says Chasen. We need to
talk about chasing. I talked about Jason last week a lot,

(47:59):
maybe out here on Access. He seems so sweet, motivated, kind,
carrying the whole package. We need to get him on
the podcast and more more about him. Let's get hashtag
justice for Chasing trending and get this man on parodie.
So he talked a second ago about what's his face
as the next pilot? No, Matt Donald, the next Joe

(48:22):
is chasing that guy now the most memorable exit. But
I also thought Chason was another memorable exit. Both of
them left too early. They both showed a lot of
light that day. They stood out, and then they were
eliminated night one. I missed those old days where you
didn't know anyone who was eliminated night one. Yeah, what
do you think? I think he is so cute? Yeah,

(48:45):
and he's a pilot. He was so threatened by Peter
coming in with his his uniform on and giving hand
of the wings. Yeah, really lost the pilot position. I'm surprised.
I'm really surprised by the chasing. Next. Okay, next one
is from uh. I'm gonna say lease, it's l I
s E. I want to make sure just to say
the name, because I'm sure she's out there listening, and

(49:07):
Lice Lease thanks for sending the email. It's called Luke p.
I haven't heard anyone mentioned that, she says, but my
husband noticed something right away with Luke P. When he
came out to comfort Hannah after the Scott things. She
said she was so cold, and then again on the
couch that she was freezing. He never once offered her
his coat. That is someone who was out for himself.

(49:30):
She says, I am marrying the man who famously gave
Caitlin his jacket once he was eliminated. I remember that
moment and everyone was swooning, and I had just gotten
home from Paradise and he had just like just dumped me.
And I was like, it's so perfect with him, something
about a guy giving you his jacket. It's just yeah,

(49:53):
it's nice, Yeah, it is nice. And you know what,
perhaps Luke was like, well, this gross, bright blue jacket
of mine would just really clash with her beautiful dress
in the outfit. Yes, we you know, it's funny. Here
we have another email from Lauren saying failing at comforting Hannah.
How is no one talking about this? She says, LUKEP
goes out to comfort Hannah when she needed a break,

(50:15):
and she's sitting there shivering and saying that she's so
cold and that this guy doesn't even offer her his jacket.
This is such a look into Luke's personality, not into him. Now.
I get that maybe he's just naive to the situation.
She doesn't see it, doesn't fully have clarity on what
to do. However, it is a mistake, and I'm telling
you I in my history of watching the show on

(50:38):
social media too, have never seen a reaction more against
a first impression Rose Winner than Luke P this week.
It was a failure on his part, but I think
it just it was a little bit the other things
that kind of went alongside of it that made people go,
something's up here. Real moment. Yeah. I think it was Nick,

(51:03):
who famously always says just the most real thing he's
really good at. He said something along the lines of
I feel bad for Luke P. He had so much
sex that God had to intervene. Kind of what he said.
He's like, I was having so much sex that I
was in the shower one day and God was like,
stop having sex. Um. I mean, here's the thing. I

(51:24):
believe fully that God intervenes and comes into our lives
at random times, especially when in moments of like depletion
or darkness. I do think it was the way it
was said that was like a little bit off, like,
you know, like it just made it feel like, what
are you really trying to tell us, Like, I'm a
good looking guy? Tell us he was the show. Yeah
that was Girls always wanted me, didn't he say that? Yeah?

(51:47):
He was like, you know, I'm attractive guy. How a
lot of girls coming after me? It took advantage of
it in college. Why did he have to tell us
that he found God while in the shower. It was
like he was trying to give an image to us. Well,
he was in the shower when they like did it.
Then he took a hour it was showering and they're
filming it. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like he's not
doing a lot to help himself right now. Staying in

(52:08):
the shower so many times. It makes me feel like
in Legally Blonde, which she's like, you're washing her hair
in the shower. We all hear hope um that Luke
p has a redemption story coming up, because right now
he isn't doing a lot to help himself. The fans
reaction to him hasn't been extremely positive. I don't know,
I've still stay clear of how this thingen is some
pump to watch it play out. So far, he is

(52:29):
the front runner. We all are hoping for a turner,
and we've seen it many times before. The most drastic
turnaround in history is Colton, Right, Colton goes from being
everybody's least favorite to everybody's you know, favorite, within a
few months. He was never at least favorite. He was
not celebrated for a while after Paradise, he was definitely criticized.

(52:51):
People were definitely criticizing him. But I never had anything
against him. He was confused situation. We're very confused with
him being the Bachelor. Yeah, there's a lot of confused. Okay,
maybe maybe I shouldn't have gone his drastic as everybody's
least fairy, people confused. There was things against him. Same
with Luke. So we're hoping Luke has his redemption story

(53:13):
or do we just want to see I don't want
to see anybody burn up in flames. But he there
after the finals or when the Hannah was announced. Yeah, okay,
Well I liked him then. I thought he was charming
then like he was very into her, but now I
kind of feel weird about so it seemed to come
back right, I mean, we do ultimately and actually not
always say the tasia on this podcast, Like it's the

(53:35):
part of the fun in the game, and watching the
show is like seeing people and then like criticizing judging
because you're doing it from a distance and we know
how it affects you. Ultimately, the best part is when
they walk off of this in good light and like
they have like their last week is like one that
like the nice celebratory music is playing and they run
off into the distance, you know, single and go on

(53:55):
the paradise and find somebody. But sometimes it doesn't happen
that way. Yeah, and um has been saying that you
can't really hate someone or dislike somebody once you get
to know them. And I think at this point in
the season, it's so easy for us to criticize and
just make lighthearted fun even like poke out appearances because
we don't know them. But the second they come into

(54:16):
our studio and we do get to talk to them,
we never make fun of them again. We just want
to talk us fans right now. I want to talk
to you guys. When we were talking about these guys,
it's earlier on the season, as if I'm sitting there
on the couch watching with you I don't want to
be like I don't want to give them too much
credit because then you guys will be bored. So let's
see what Luke p does coming up next. Jacket decision.
If he sat in studio right now, I tell him

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that was a really terrible move. Dude, you've got to
be better. I hope you get better, and if you don't,
maybe he was just really nervous at night. We'll give
it to you. Didn't seem like anyways. From not from Dawn,
she goes, I'm now a Hannah fan. To our point, exactly,
times change, opinions change. I have to say I was
not a fan of Hannah be being the Bachelor, she says,

(54:58):
but now I have seen episode one and I love her.
I'm so happy to see someone who is so real.
If this is all an act, I don't want to know.
She is raw, real and adorable. It reminds me here
of um an Instagram story I saw with one of
our favorite people who also does an iHeart podcast with
Becca Tilly called Scrubbing In with Becca Antanya. Tanya had

(55:20):
an Instagram story that says, I want to start a
Hannah by fan club now because I love her. So
much people are loving on Hannah, Tasha, what are your
thoughts on Hannah be I like Hannah by um. I
think that I got to really see her grow Uncleton
season and towards the end of the of the season,
I was a huge fan of her. She is crazy,

(55:44):
but in a good way. Like she is very raw,
she is very real. She will call you out and
she just had a lot of emotion. She has a
lot of emotion, and sometimes I think of the good thing.
People will be like, you're crazy. It's like, no, no, no no,
let's let's alter the word crazy and call them emotionful. Yeah,
it's crazy. Having emotions and displaying them is not a

(56:07):
sign of craziness at all. But I feel in this
kind of situation, you need to be like that, emotion filled,
like that motionful. I mean, you know, if that's the
word soa answer us this, you would know. Um is
what we're seeing right now in act? Oh definitely not.
We like Hanna, but told you show guys out there

(56:27):
who didn't believe that Ashley did less. One's from Lara
l a r As Laura Laura Sorry either way, Um,
Hannah's Silence. It's titled What's Up? With the Hannah's radio
silence on Instagram. I thought the lead always promotes the show,
especially premiere, yet we have nothing. Could this mean she's

(56:49):
completely heartbroken and burned from her season? Ashley have the answers? Okay, okay,
her season didn't stop filming until last week, so she
literally didn't get her phone back until like the past
couple of days, and she did Instagram for the first
time on Wednesday. How crazy is that? As we're watching
her love story begin, it is then ending at the

(57:11):
same time. So Banana's like, it's never been like this,
But I think it's kind of cool, Like she's truly
experiencing hopefully bliss right now and we're just starting to
watch that relationship form. Amazing, amazing, amazing. So actually has
all the answers, Tasia has all the answers, and they
have all the opinions on the second episode of The Bachelorette.

(57:32):
But before we get there, let's take a break talk
about sleep number, sleep number. Hey, Ashley, I love sleep number.
Slept in a sleep number bed. I haven't you know
what there's like people who have slept and sleep in
her beds and people who haven't, And it's like two
different teams. I'm on the team that has and I

(57:54):
love elevates like I think you can like basically sleep
sitting up, which is really good for drainage of your
face in the morning, so you can get away with
the ice cubes that you stick on need cubes anymore.
I actually don't do it anymore. That's a shocker. Um.
Remember when when Actuley and I did Paradise or Paradise? Um?

(58:16):
What do you call winter games together? So the first
time I'd seen her with her face mask and she
walked down with these ice things on her eyes, I
was like, um, okay, maybe considered a sleep Number bed,
but you thought you couldn't afford one. Hey, but here's
a question, Tasha, can you really afford another restless nice sleep?

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(01:00:04):
could do. One of the cool things is you can
go in those matches like shops and just laying a
bunch of different beds. Have you're done that? You can
actually ask them, but I think they don't hate it.
If you're like, hey, can I just take a nap here?
You're yeah, you have not think about how good it
is for marketing when you have a random dude laying
on your bed. It's actually really sleeping. Essentially, the Bachelor

(01:00:27):
just came in to take a nap between meetings. She
couldn't go home. So I'm telling you The Bachelor has
been really good for me. Now it's like not awkward
and weird for me to walk into a guys. Hey,
I'm just gonna take a nap on your bed. Are
you cool with it? So let's talk Episode two, Taysha,
let's stick around for that. Is you cool with it?
That sounds great? Let's do it episode two to which

(01:00:50):
is also episode two. Yeah, we've been talking for a
long time, guys, and we're still here in Napa Valley
hang out and here. Let me break down a little
bit to get us started here with three people, it's
always a little difficult. We're now in the Bachelor mansion,
so we're this is always an exciting time, right. We

(01:01:12):
get to see the guys meet the guys who meet
the ladies. But it's the bachelortte season, so we're talking.
We're meeting the guys really for the first time. Starting
to really feel different watching this episode that I did
last week. You know, I'm so premiers. I know they
have to happen the way that they happen, but they
don't get me like jazz Up watched this episode and

(01:01:33):
now I'm getting excited. I'm starting to feel like I'm
rooting for some people. I like watching some of the chemistry.
I believe that now she can maybe find a guy,
because I know last week wasn't super thrilled about the bunch,
said there was only like three right, And now I'm
looking at this, I'm like, oh, he's cute. I thought
he was. He's cuter. Okay, everybody's looking better. Everybody's being

(01:01:54):
really charming. I said that about a couple of the guys.
I was really taken aback by last week because I
wasn't thrilled by any one. But this week, I think
there's a lot of good contenders. Yeah, they're coming out
of the woodwork. So the first date card says I'm
looking for Mr. Wright. This date card comes following luke
P and we see him say that he's already could
see himself marrying Hannah and having a family with her.

(01:02:18):
More about luke P later. We all have opinions about
lup Um. He's definitely a captivating figure this this season.
First date card says I'm looking for Mr Wright. The
group date includes Grant Lucas, Mike Jed, Jonathan, j P,
J Dylan, and Luke P. It's accompanied by Drag Queen's
Alaska and Alyssa in America's Next Top Model, Miss Jay J. Love.

(01:02:46):
Here's the thing, I think we can sum this one
up by saying that, yeah, luke P, he's he's a
buff dude. Right, short guy. We saw that luke P
is short. Yeah, that's why he is so like why
it's always my excuse is I'm a tall guy and
I'm not Jack because I'm tall leans out as opposed. Yeah,

(01:03:11):
it's hard to get him compact together. You know what,
I'm going to do a poll on Instagram. Would you
rather a muscular guy or a tall guy? And tall
is gonna let Easton who's like also like six three
over there is? Yeah, I'm gonna do it right now. Yeah,
thank you. Let's we'll give an update at the end
of this segment on what people respond with. Um, Tasha,

(01:03:34):
I'm gonna ask you, right, we see these guys walk out, uh,
kind of showing off their skills and their talents. Did
you enjoy this date? Yeah? Very much so. I think
I got to see a different side of all the guys.
And I mean, who doesn't want to see guys and speedoes? Yeah? Well,

(01:03:55):
I don't know. I don't want to, but the hot ones.
It's fun to kind of like judge a little bit
when you're on the couch with wine and your girlfriends. Yeah, okay,
where do your eyes go like on a guy when
he walks out of speedo? Is it like, no, you're
like looking at his face? Look at his face, look
at his face as his abs? Okay? Did you like?

(01:04:16):
I mean like the V like the little sex A
good V is what we called that what we call
it those sex bones? I call it a V. Yeah,
I call it a V two. But like technically, if
you wanted to sex bones, I don't know I don't
think muscle because if you had bones, right, Yeah, you
know I'm gonna start. I'm gonna go back to Denver
and start really working on my V very fine, Thank you.

(01:04:42):
I need help. UM what we what I think a
consensus is is from from social media and um our
emails already and the three of us talking. The guys
are looking better this episode than the last, like like
physically right, Like you had both mentioned that there's a
lot more guys here that you're attracted to than you

(01:05:04):
were last week. I don't know what happened to them.
They all drink beauty juice or something, but yeah, I
can see that also here and then um Tyler Tyler
g got better looking and then looking mostly because hearing
this rivalry with Cam. Yeah, it's all starting to play out.

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Stories are starting to unfold. Also, a story that's unfolding
is more and more. This loot Peak character continues to
be a presence on the show where we see him
on this day stand up and say, I'm generally starting
to fall in love with you. Ridiculous. What's going on
with that? Too soon? Right week? Too? Have we seen

(01:05:48):
something like that happened, especially from somebody at such a
leadership position. This is his first date with her, and
this is like their second day filming, So he's literally
saying that within forty eight hours because we have that
breakday in between, that he's falling in love in forty
eight hours and saying it out. But that's not true.
That means he watched last season, he did his research,

(01:06:11):
and he was very love the idea. Yes, he already
had an idea of her in his mind, but don't
you feel like everybody else, like all the other guys there.
I mean, he was crowned then Mr. Wright, which I
think is just going to continue to kind of like
fuel his ego if he has one, he's probably walking.
I mean, he's now the the first Rose getter and receiver.

(01:06:34):
I don't know, it all sounds weird. And then he's
also crowned Mr right If, and everybody at the party
kind of feels it seems like they think he it's
way too soon for him right there, starting to judge
him hands down. I mean, if everybody there is feeling
like it's too soon, maybe he just really has that
connection with her, or is there all tior motives here

(01:06:55):
yet he's just buttering up simple that, Yeah, do you
have more sympathy for her him than I don't know.
I just think I think it's a little too soon. Honestly,
it kind of makes me uncomfortable. It's hard putting myself
in that position. And there's no way I could have
said that at the second Road ceremony or if that
second week guys that I love you too. Too many

(01:07:17):
girls in his life, clearly, I just I have a
hard time. I think there's a level here too that
we might not even be speaking about yet. On this show,
emotions happen quickly, right, everything sped up. There's a lot
of intention, you're isolated, you're pursuing one person. There's wisdom

(01:07:37):
and I think we should all watch this as viewers
and what you say and what you don't say. Now
you might be feeling those emotions like holy cow, I'm
feeling a rush of love and of lust and of
just just so much excitement. But when you're on the show,
you have to know that like who you are in
real life as well, and go is this rational? Is
this logical? Is this wise to now express? And I

(01:08:00):
think when we see people express emotions and feelings on
this show too soon or too aggressively or too early
in or in situations that are not ideal. I mean Cam,
we've seen artist Cam. We have to ask ourselves. The
question is not if he's feeling it or not, because
we don't know that, we can't be the judge of that,
but is it the wise thing to say and do
at the time, and if it's genuine and if it's genuine, Ashley,

(01:08:22):
what do you think? I just don't think it's genuine,
and I think that you shouldn't say it until it's genuine.
It's fair, right, Yeah, I agree? Okay, moving on to
uh date two. It's the one on one surprise one
on one in my opinion, for Tyler g to get
the first one on one, right, You know what's sometimes
it's a one off that you don't know their name yet.

(01:08:45):
And then sometimes it's like Blake, who was probably a standout.
Who is your first date? Ben? Okay, I look at that,
So that one far and so did Blake and who knows? Maybe, uh,
maybe Tyler is a sleeper. Hannah Bey got the first
one on one day. Oh yeah, that's right. Look at that.
It was kind of the markin to Hannah by and

(01:09:05):
also thought Hanna Bey was going home after that, right, Yeah,
I think this date went very very well. You guys
like Tyler g Yeah, very manly A sweetheart tip? Is
that how you would explain like manly um looking at
him like he I think you both as we were
watching the episode together, you said, he kind of looks
like a Superman. Yeah, he's like a Superman character. He

(01:09:27):
kind of looks like a bend Zorn, you know, like
a little like just like masculine. He'll take care of yeah,
like he'll protect you like that. Hug must feel real
good because he's like a man. He feels he feels
put together, like he feels like he knows what he's
saying and why he's saying it while he's saying it. Right, Like,
when I think about this, dude, I'm thinking about the

(01:09:48):
fact that, like he is wise, he's calm and what
he's saying. He's a good listener, he's available and ready
to talk to her. But then even like when she
gave him the rose, this little comment was, does this
mean get to spend more time with you? That's cute.
That's cute, which is totally the opposite of Luke, who
says stuff like you know, I'm attractive and like to

(01:10:11):
get with me. That's just a lot, so I think
it's so cute. Tyler keeps saying that he's the luckiest
man alive, and that is exactly what the bachelor, and
especially Hannah wants to hear, because she's the kind of
girl who doesn't want to play hard to get. She
wants to know the guy is happy with her and
very into her. Yeah. Moving on now to date card
number three. Man, We're three dates into the season, already

(01:10:33):
moving fast, moving quickly. This day includes Devin, Mateo Connor,
Darren Kevin, Dustin, Tyler, see Joey, Peter Garrett. The clue is,
let's get our love on track. The data is roller skating.
It's not just roller skating, but they're competing in a derby.
Darren starts it out by predicting that chance someone ends

(01:10:57):
in the hospital. I uh, you know what I like
about Hannah right now? I really do think that she's
doing a terrific job but putting these mento ease because
when she says, hey, I don't care if these guys
are great. I don't care if these guys are fantastic skaters.
I don't care what they do. I just want them
to have fun and be joy filled. That is an

(01:11:19):
expectation that is not heavy. And I think that is
such a big role for the lead to do to
the contestants, to not make them feel like they have
to be something other than themselves and other than joy filled,
to have the best experience and the show their best
selves to Hannah, she's doing great. It is true. I
think sometimes early on in these group dates that are competitive,

(01:11:42):
people are like, well, in order to stand out and
to get extra time, I need to win, and that's
that's not the case. Just have a good time. The
you know, they were pretty carible, like honestly though, I mean,
I'm glad she said that expectation because I hope they
had fun. They're awful scared. I have a roller skating
in the years. We used to do these all night

(01:12:03):
skates back in middle school. You guys ever do those?
Had you ever do the like all nighters where you
go into like a roller skating rink. They would, they
would do it. Middle school is like a way for
your parents to get rid of you. I was never
I was never allowed, but like my friends would go,
I was always It was like the thing to do
in seven grade that like I couldn't go to I
wasn't allowed to, but I would go for like the

(01:12:23):
first four hours and then have to leave. But yeah,
they do all night skates, and you would hear some
weird stuff go down at all night skates. Yeah no,
I never did that. You know, that doesn't sound like
my cup of tea. But I like to go to
bed earlier, and I don't think my parents would have
let me say that. Hey, well, it was a bunch
of dudes skating around a rink, falling into each other, fighting, arguing, grappling. Meanwhile,

(01:12:46):
back at the house, ABC man, I hope to never
hear anybody ever talk to about themselves like that. Again,
there's something about this tie. I don't know how big
a fan you are the podcast, our podcast. You probably
listen to it every week. But um yeah, one thing
that actually, and I've really started to jump on is
people self describing themselves. Everyone the podcast is probably rolling

(01:13:07):
their eyes right now, um because like here, Ben and
I a shtually talk about this every week, Especially Ben,
I dislike when people self describe themselves. I think we
should allow others to describe us and live a life
worthy of being described. And then the second is I
don't like people talking about themselves in the third person.
Always be Cam? Is that to a t He's literally

(01:13:30):
laid out why did he say ABC Cat always be,
always be Cam? And what does that mean exactly? I
wonder how long it took him to come up with
that one, honestly, like it was like his grandma. It
sounds like something like a grandma would be likely ABC
always became And he's like, that's my motto till I'm forty,

(01:13:50):
Like I'm gonna always be Cam, which means nothing. Really,
Like he's saying nothing, Like what does that mean to
always be Cam? Like as as a viewer or as
a friend of his or as a family member. When
he says always be Cam, what should we assume Cam
is Cam as a creeper. I was just gonna we
don't know him though, so like we don't know him yet,

(01:14:12):
so like he's actually saying nothing, right if you think
about it, like we don't know Cam. He's not saying
always be loyal, always be kind, always be considerate. He's
saying always be a name. It's it's it's weird. I mean, essentially,
it's like saying, always be true to yourself is so

(01:14:33):
always be Cam sitting back of the house meanwhile saying
he's lonely. He hasn't had time with Hannah, he hasn't
been invited any of his dates. What he should know
is there's a reason. So he decides to be bold.
It's a foreshadowing, we see it. It's always dangerous when
you decide. When anybody the show saysn't gonna be bold.

(01:14:54):
What he ends up doing because he shows up to
the cocktail party in the group date, we can se
at the end of the race, nothing major happens except
Fred Willard comes back into the picture, which we always love.
I just love when Fred shows up, just a fantastic yea.
I think it's like a season right, he's a season
regular now, Yeah, he's on my season two. Fred Willard
is a bundle of joy. And Fred Willard continues to

(01:15:18):
show up in Bachelor Nation. Why and how we don't know,
but we don't. We hope he never leaves. So let's
skip to the cocktail party. Cocktail players going fine. Everybody
seems pretty happy, right, Nothing that's weird going on there?
Little beat up, a little tired, a little exhausted and
Cam shows up crashes to get the cocktail party to
steal handa away. It never happened, happened this early on.

(01:15:40):
Here's here's a tactic. Cam we all know has something
in him that is ticking, right, He's like a ticking
time bomb. We could just see it in his eyes.
So I was like, we're gonna test Cam this week
and see how he responds to not having a date.
He apparently got so fired up that he had to
go crash one. I think he got way too excited

(01:16:00):
personally about getting that very first rose, and he shouldn't
have taken as serious as he did. His head is
very big right now. That is like that story of
Huberists that we learned about in like ninth grade English.
He just just flew too close to the sun. He's like,
he's he's going to be on this downfall now because
his ego is so big, so big, I think there's

(01:16:24):
I'm trying to figure out how we should play this here,
Um what I want to do now, because I don't
think the story makes sense unless we tie in what
Cam does at the cocktail party before the rose ceremony.
Cam then continues this these escapades onto the cocktail party
the rose ceremony when he does something that is might

(01:16:48):
be one of the most egregious moves that I've ever
seen anybody make. On week two, he Kevin and Hannah
are having a moment and talking. We don't know how
good it's really going. We don't see a lot of it,
but we see it happening, and Cam decides to walk
up and says, hey, I actually have something for all

(01:17:08):
three of us. I was weirded out by that. Well,
I wasn't at first at first. My first reaction was
sounds interesting, maybe creative, maybe cool, maybe something different. Maybe
they're gonna play a game. And since Cam already can
tell that he's causing some issues in the house, made
this his way of just saying, hey, let's laugh about this.
I'm sorry. I want to apologize and let you know,

(01:17:30):
Kevin to continue to have your time, and I'm only
to have it like something that is just good and
noble altogether. Instead, he literally invites Kevin to sit next
to him and Hannah as he gives her chicken nuggets.
I have to say, the chicken nuggets in a ringbox
is a nice move. I would have been you know.

(01:17:50):
If it wasn't Cam, it would have been like a great, dude,
I'm in love with you, You're fantastic. But being from
Cam and the way he did it, it was a
grow this move. It's all about your delivery, right. However,
the line was very clever when he asked totally accept this,
like honey mustard or something. There was nothing clever. There's
nothing clever about using a line. That's so I will

(01:18:13):
always accept my cameos every time asked me to tell
somebody to accept a rose. It's not that hard. Can
you accept this honey mustard? It's not because he didn't
say it. I wish that was the case, or Cam
has some work to do. Here's the thing I thought,
Kevin still handled it well. He was angry, he should be.
He was embarrassed, he should be. His pride was shot.

(01:18:34):
I get why he sat next to two people on
a date, one guy with his girlfriend. Nothing about that.
I mean, it's just so weird of him to be like,
I'm going to include this guy in the date just
because I want to be a dick like that. But
then he didn't include him in any way, totally boxed
out of the entire completely ignored Hyeah. It was nothing
about that was inclusive or accepting. Truthfully, cam Is is

(01:18:57):
a target right now in the house. We can see
it playing out. It's not gonna end anytime soon, I'm afraid.
The final big moment was when Luke p takes off
his shirt gives Hannah massage. I just think it's it's
really interesting how well Jed handled it. Jed was a cute.
This is when this was the official moment that I
picked a favorite this season. My favorite for Hannah is Jed.

(01:19:17):
I called him out last week is one of my
top four, but now he's who I wanted to end
up with. Honestly, he's such a gentleman, so cute, and
he was genuinely sad when he saw that, and he
could have been really awkward when she came to talk
to him, but instead he was just like, I get it.
He said like, hey, you know what else is awkward?
That there's twenty five dudes here seemed to be into you.

(01:19:38):
Totally good, totally good. Um, Okay, I'm gonna sum up
the episode just for our listeners in one second and
for all of us. What we're finding out is these
guys are more attractive than we could ever have imagined.
We have some standouts coming through, UH that all of
us are fans of some of I guess the surprises
that we never thought would be popular the show are

(01:20:00):
now popular. We also think that Hannah Bee is doing
a terrific job as the Bachelorette. UM. She's being weird,
she's being quirky, she's being confident, she's saying things that
she shouldn't and saying things that she should, and altogether
is amazingly entertaining and incredibly authentic. What we want to
find out is where these drama filled stories is going

(01:20:21):
to play out. We will see that in the upcoming
week of The Bachelorette. We love this season. It's going
to continue to stay around. We are going to continue
to stay around. Make sure you tune in tomorrow to
our in depth episode. It's with Caitlin Bristow. It's just
me and Caitlin. We sat down for two hours with
a bottle of wine and had some girl talk. It's
one the UH, this season of The Bachelorette is worth watching,

(01:20:44):
but Caitlin Bristow is worth listening to. UM. I think
here's my prediction next week's episode is going to continue
to be that slow fade into drama, and then week
four is going to explode with drama on this show.
We're gonna see some some personality, which we always do.
Week four is always the week that true personality shine.
Right now, Week two it just felt like a good

(01:21:05):
week two episodes as Week four happens in Newport, Rhode Island,
which is where Jared and I are getting married. There
you go, girl, Hey, um, actually, you know what. I
just realized what it's week two, Tasha, listen to this.
This is crazy. We survived another off season. Yeah, I know.
You didn't realize that. Last week it was so sure.

(01:21:27):
Hey uh hey, like we're talking about we're here in
Napa Valley. It's my first time in Napa Valley. I
don't think I mentioned that before, my very first time.
Amy continues to bring me the places for my first time.
I was in for the first time with Amy. I'm
in Nappa for the first time with Amy. I feel
like you're trying to say something. Maybe I just don't
think you spend enough time in California. I don't. But
it's beautiful, it's amazing, and we're staying on the same

(01:21:52):
golf course that the Safe Way Open is on and
and I love golf, So I'm looking right now at
it's this golf course and it's absolutely beautiful. We've brought
in probably the biggest star of the weekend. No No,
No time out. She's shaking her head. No to the podcast,
Bobby Jacobs on the podcast. She is the founder. And

(01:22:14):
what else would you call your title of this event? Um,
I am the I'm a mom, mom, I'm a wife. Um,
I have four dogs, and I'm the co founder of
Live in the Vineyard and the founder of Live in
the Vineyard Ghost Country. Bobby lives in Denver. I live
in Parker. I live in the Highlands, North Denver. That's amazing.

(01:22:35):
I just was there. Um, going in that area for
dinner at Ashcara, the restaurant that I started. My restaurant
is right next door. I just started a restaurant in
North Denver. Dinners on me for bringing us out here,
because this event is so great that anybody that, no
matter where you're in the country, should come to it.
We've brought in. We still have Tashia with us. Um,
she's gonna chime in. She's a big country fan. We've

(01:22:57):
brought in Amy, our producer, who you know very well.
Because Bobby and Amy have known each other for the
last we were trying to remember fifteen years. We've always
worked because Bobby has always worked in music and I've
always worked in music with Ryan Seacrest, so we've cross paths.
But then years ago she started this event and this
is my first time here. But I have heard about
it forever. People rave about this. I mean, how can

(01:23:20):
you not. It were in Napa Valley at a country
music festival. Um, how did you come up with the idea? Well,
Live in the vineyar Ghost Country. I love love country music,
and my husband always wanted to have Live in the
Vineyard be like a twist vineyard what you created for
the live and Live the Vineyard and goes beyond just
this festival. Yes, yes, Live in the Vineyard UM was created.

(01:23:43):
And I'm the co creator of the original co founder
of Live and the Vineyard UM, which was eleven years ago.
And so it was created UM by my friend Claire
Parr and myself and then um I have now taken
over the business as of a few years ago and
so now it's mine UM. And so it is just

(01:24:04):
a really it's a labor of love. It was created
to help artists market and promote their music because um
in today, well eleven years ago, it's it's just a
different model. Now it's different, but then it was just
one more vehicle to help artists break their music. And
so that that's why it was created. Their only moneymaker.
Carncerts are merchandise concerts, you know, and then exactly exactly,

(01:24:28):
and so it's a vehicle where the artists are curated
based on their current music and the music that they released,
and so therefore it's like one big mark. It's like
a marketing opportunity that can add into like being another
cog in the wheel um to releasing music. And the
thing I love about it, and the reason I wanted
Bobby to come on today is because The Bachelor does

(01:24:48):
the same thing, specifically for a lot of country artists.
So in a minute, we're going to talk to Scotty
McCreary and Morgan Evans. And Morgan was on beccas season
of The Bachelor performing at a date with Leo and Becca.
I remember that, so I think, because you know, the
audience is very similar that a lot of the Bachelor
audience loves country music, so it's that they use that

(01:25:11):
as the same thing to be able to get their
music out there and this little inside baseball. But what's
kind of interesting is when when an artist is on
The Bachelor, you see their songs, you see everything hit Oh,
it translates completely. It's unbelievable. The translation question I had,
how many people are we expecting at this it's only

(01:25:32):
it's only eight and thirty people total for the for
the theater events. So for tonight at the Uptown Theater,
it is going to be eight hundred and thirty two
people total. It is it's a private it's a private
experience and it's been it's basically once in a lifetime
and it is I hand picked the artist. I work
with all the labels and the managers, and I work

(01:25:52):
with the you know, as far as what's being released
and really what works well together for a lineup. And
so if there's an artist that might not fit in
one particular venue, will put them in another one. So
it's highlighted and it's acoustic and there's no there's no
plugged in you know, perform. It's a it's an acoustic show.
Yesterday people were just out in the vineyard in Napa

(01:26:13):
listening to country music. We're at Regucci. Yes So yesterday
we started off that we kicked off the week um
with Regucci Vineyards and Regusci Winery and it was Walker
Hayes and Lanco and Brad Paisley headlines. And what's really
really cool about this that was Okay, so you can't
purchase tickets. So people listening for Bobby's next event, you

(01:26:37):
enter to win and then you get to come. So wait,
we explain that because you have another one coming up.
So people listening you can have this experience like we're
having if they get lucky and they win, you can't
purchase tickets. And so back to the whole marketing and
and the promotion of artists music. So what happens is
there's a net. So it's a it's like a four
part look at us, like a four part thing where

(01:26:57):
the first part is you basically throw it out there too.
There's three to four hundred radio stations in the country
promoting this and then and so that's part one. So
you entered a win and then there's a huge broadcast
across the whole United States where we're in over almost
four hundred markets, and then the second part is you
win and you come and then you are in it,

(01:27:20):
and then you have the content from it, and then
you have the after the pieces afterwards that really like
kind of connected all and people can cease a lot
of the footage on CMT right. Yeah. CMT is our
is our title sponsor. Are there any other kind of
concerts out here now but that take pace like this
or no? Um I the first that was ever pop
music didn't come to NAPA until we brought it here

(01:27:41):
eleven years ago. It was very jazz and very classical music.
And so you name some of the artists that have
done live in the Vineyard, Rob Thomas, Atlantis, Morris Set, Lenny,
Rob Thomas. He's obsessed with Rob and now like I'm
finding myself listening to Rob on my own on planes.
Really Yeah, So it's funny. I worked um back when

(01:28:05):
Matchbox twenty was started, when it went from Tabitha's Secret
based on Or They were based in Florida, and they
went to Matchbox Swinging signed the Lava records. I broke.
I drove them around in a minivan. That's when I met.
That's when we met. Ye, That's when we met in
San Francisco with Ryan Seacrest. That was the most and

(01:28:29):
so I drove them in a minivan and they all
had their twenty first birthdays on the road. I'm driving
them in the minivan and I would take them into
radio stations and I would beg them, please, please please,
can you have us come into the radio station? And
they're like, who are you? And who is this band?
I go, They're going to be the biggest band. Ryan
Seacrest and I and then the most their fans, Castic

(01:28:51):
were with Matchbox twenty and probably Bobby on a sidewalk
in San Francisco, a sidewalk sidewalk symphony. They were partial
worm ing. Yeah, they were performing on the sidewalk. We
had like we were just doing local TV interviewing them
and having a performance literally in the middle of San
Francisco on the sidewalk the psychonic Like, let's pause for

(01:29:12):
a second. Ryan Seacrest in Matt Box on the sidewalk
in San Francisco seven for okay, something like that A
long time ago. But that's yes, yes, old, thank you
very much. I'm just accepted. I'm just keep saying it
because I'm um. I just have to be prepared for

(01:29:33):
the next three lines. So what country music? Yeah? What
country music are you loving right now? Oh? My goodness,
I I love angered Andrews Um she has the song
lady Like and She's fantastic. And Kaylee Hammock performed last night.
She is on Universal, She's She's unbelievable, angers on Warner Brothers. Um,

(01:29:55):
everybody from like there's no one label, it's everyone. It's
you know, like a kind of a universal experience of
music with um with all the different labels. Hardy I
heard for the first time today. He wrote the number
one song that Blake Shelton has right now, God's Country.
He just performed at in the Round. Um, Morgan Evans
is so. Morgan was the one that was on The
Bachelor's amazing And Cody Johnson is my husband's favorite and

(01:30:19):
I can't wait to see him. Um tonight, I mean really,
um Landco is lovely here and a little so Yes.
So now everyone knows what we're doing in Napa. Yeah.
Two questions for you, and they're kind of back to back.
One is why NAPA In the second then is why

(01:30:39):
would an artist like Brad Paisley, who is a household
name want to do this event, Like what, I know
it's for publicity, and I know it's really good for
the artist, But why is it good for the artist
if only five people could to come and it's on CMT,
explain really how it promotes them. So as far as
artists are concern, that's a very good question. As far

(01:30:59):
as a sharkncerned like a Brad Paisley, like for example,
last year Carrie Underwood, UM started the event like my
first event in Carrie Underwood was my headlining artist. And
it works. Um, everything we do is not exactly a
cookie cutter any like, not even close show cookie cutter experience.
Meaning the festivals during the week it's on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

(01:31:20):
you know, And so because artists tour in country on
the weekends and so they'll never get you know, touring
is big for them. And so with Brad, it worked
with his schedule and the kids and his wife, and
he has new music coming out and the label really
wanted him to do something more intimate, UM in an
acoustic setting, UM in a winery with a winery backdrop,
and so it just really worked the same way I

(01:31:41):
got all y'all here nap and then Napa Valley. It's
Napa Valley. Um. You always have to think about the
way it sounds on the radio as a promotion. Come
to Napa Valley, intimate experience of music, food and wine
in the heart of the legendary wine country. So why
do you guys right when it's advertised, when it's promoted,

(01:32:02):
why do you guys keep it intimate and exclusive? What's
the benefit for you? The benefit is everything in today's
society can be bought, and you can't. I just wanted
to create something that is so special that no matter
you can be standing next to the CEO of a
massive billion dollar company, or you can be the winner
from El Paso and I I program to everyone equally

(01:32:25):
so everyone can have the same experience and that takeaway
is just really exciting. And you're you're never going to
see an artist perform in this setting again. Best and
nothing repeats, It's always different. What's the best way for
people listening to learn more? How do they go to
your website? They can as far as socials um, you know,
live in the Vineyard on socials um and then also

(01:32:45):
live in the Vineyard dot com Live in the Viney
gust Country dot com. And then I also there's also
a culinary festival in our portfolio that's Yantville Live, which
you can buy a ticket for. UM and it's a
very it's a culinary yaunt. Oh but if maybe there's
a very exclusive Yantville is in the heart of Napa

(01:33:10):
Valley and so that is it's the culinary mecca of
Napa Valley where it's laundry, there's all these really famous
Russians from around here. Um, and so Y'auntville Live is
basically a publicly ticketed, models very high end ticket. But
it's it's all about master classes and um an immersion

(01:33:31):
within the Amanda Stanton's here. You and your sister need
to come to that. I just learned Amanda stands sister
is a chef. I learned that like eight minutes ago.
I know. So, my sister runs a food Instagram accounts,
so she posts all her recipes on there. She's amazing.
Yeah I'm not a good cook, but she is. So
I'm like the taste tester. Yeah that's a good job.
In razzo. Yes, a side note, Amanda's hair looks like

(01:33:53):
Princess Jasmine right now. And I'm super jealous, and I
just want to stare well, we will let Bobby get
back to planning your concerts and we'll talk to Scotty
McCreery and Morgan Evans in just a minute. I just
can't believe. Thank you so much for being here. You
might be coming back in November constantly, like every time.

(01:34:14):
November is so live in the Vineyard in November is
not just country, it's multiformat So it's country, it's hot,
a hot, a C singer, songwriter. I love the dog
contemper so it's a little bit of everything that cool.
So Alry, thank you so much, Bobby. I can't wait

(01:34:37):
to interview an American idol right now. One of the checklists,
one of the things on my bucket list is about
to be checked off. So it's pretty exciting. Let's go.
Thank you. As mentioned one of Bachelor Nation's favorite. UM.

(01:35:02):
We've We've had a lot of artists over the years
the Bachelor franchise and UH and Morgan Evans definitely stood out. Morgan,
thank you for coming on the podcast. Thanks man to
talk to you. Now. Tell everybody what season you're on
and what date you performed on UM it was last
year and uh, I was gonna it was the fellow
with the long curly hair. Oh, Leo, That's right. It

(01:35:24):
was Becca and Leo and it was the end of
a date and his like the After to Dates prize
was come to the theater and I was playing there
and it was it was, it was. I really enjoyed
the experience of doing it, because you always wonder when
you watched the show, like how real is that moment?
How many times they shoot that? And we shot it
once and all the reactions were real. And I mean
dancing on a podium and making out in the middle

(01:35:46):
of the crowd maybe the most natural thing, but it was.
It was amazing to plays I'll kiss somebody and then
watch that will happen with school. I think a lot
of people watch those dates and they're like, this must
be so awkward to be the Bachelor and her date
with everybody watching this. But did you feel it was
actually more normal than you would think? No, it definitely
wasn't normal at all. I actually I kind of felt

(01:36:08):
for them a little bit because that I mean, they
were having a moment or whatever, they're making out on
this podium, but then people up on the podium like
pushing against them taking a picture whilst making Yes, it
was it was a thing to behold. The interesting part
is so when you're an artist and you're playing on
the Batchel, you're there a few hours beforehand with like,
oh yeah, a full crowd in front of you. Because

(01:36:30):
when I was a Batchel, I remember I had I
don't know if you know of Amos lee Um, but
he was my favorite growing up and so he came
in and played on my season the show, which Amos
is definitely like the opposite type of person that would
you would see on the Bachelor's show, right, Like you
would never think Amos would would do this. And he
was telling me about like what had happened before I
had gotten there, and he was there for hours with
a full crowd, and he's like he didn't know if

(01:36:52):
to entertain them to like seeing, so he ends up
kind of putting on this private concert for a hundred people.
They're hanging out waiting for us to show up from
our date to kiss in front of him. I mean,
I will say, as this similar experience to that, it
was a bigger place, so it was like a Propa.
There was a thousand people there and holy cow, and
I felt exactly the same way I almost did. I

(01:37:12):
was like, they're here all play and so yeah, we
played a show. Oh that's awesome. Alright. So here on
the almost in his podcast, you know, we talked predominantly
about the Bachelor, talk about a lot of love. You're
married to Kelsey Ballerini. You happened since December, hasn't ever seen. Yeah,
you got good on the facts that. Um, can you

(01:37:32):
tell us how you propose? Was like bachelor? Was a bachelor? Like? Um?
Probably not, but I will say it was a conscious decision.
I feel like it was a conscious no to not
be like that. I mean, we listen, yeah, we list
so much about publicly, you know, when we talked about
in interviews all the time, and on the internet people

(01:37:53):
you know, you post photos or whatever, and so it
was a cool moment. They just keep ours And it
was Christmas morning and she was making pancakes and it
was just us in the house, and it seemed like
the perfect time. So you hadn't planned the time that
you were going to do it. You just we're gonna
wait that perfect okay, but we're gonna wait till you
felt it was the perfect time, or did you plan
Christmas morning. Christmas morning with the plan for sure. Yeah, yeah,

(01:38:14):
I knew we would actually be at home together that day,
which is a rare occurrence. Yeah, that's great. I've always
been interested. How do you manage because both of your
careers have skyrocketed, you're both crushing it, and as that
happens in parallel, obviously there's a ton of time apart,
and like your your lives are out there all the time,
everybody's talking about you. We can google you and find
out when you got married and probably how you proposed

(01:38:36):
before this podcast if we wanted to, how do you
keep it like real and just like when you go
back to be together like just a real, like natural relationship. Now,
I feel like there's a couple of things you need
to do. One of them is to make sure you
see each other. That's the probably the hottest pot, which
we just you have to be really proactive about it.
Sit down and look ahead in the calendar and and

(01:38:59):
just block out chunks of time. And thankfully all the
people we work with know that that's a real priority
for us. So um, like just last week we had
our first block for the year, and we just disappeared
for three days and it was awesome. And I feel
like anytime we both get together, it becomes real again.
You know, if you're not talking about each other, you
just actually get to talk to each other. And somehow
I feel like the fact we both do this gives

(01:39:20):
each other a really good understanding of what we're both
going through, so there's no we don't have to explain
that to each other either, So it's kind of a
real connection there as well. Are you still in the
honeymoon phase since you do only see each other sporadically? Yeah,
I guess so mathematically, so yeah, it's mathematically the amount
of days you've had together. Well, yeah, I mean my
girlfriend's parents they spend every week apart. He travels and

(01:39:42):
then she comes back on the weekends. And they've actually
told me, over the thirty years of marriage, it's actually
been a blessing to them because there's this excitement back
right where my parents there we live in a small town, Indiana,
there together all the time. Every day. My dad goes
to my mom's work and says on the couch and
watch sports. Is why she finishes up Like they're together
all the time, and I don't feel like there's as
much of like a blissful excitement maybe when they see

(01:40:03):
each other for the first time in three hours her parents,
he's commuted for thirty years, close to it. Yeah, I
don't know if that's a bad thing. I think that's
just a different dynamic. You might be right. I mean,
at the same time, we do get really jealous of
some of our other country music friends that like they'll
go and their wife or their husband will just go
on the road with them every weekend, which they get

(01:40:25):
to do it all together, which would be really cool
to do as well. But well, I mean eventually, I
guess maybe I will say this summer, she has a
lot of time off to to make a new record,
which which means that on the weekends I might be
able to steal er out and yeah, bring on the
road with me. What's your ultimate date together? Like, what's
your favorite thing to do? Her ultimate days? Both of them, Um,

(01:40:47):
it would be something by the ocean, for sure. I
grew up near the ocean in Newcastle, Australia, so living
in Nashville, that's one of the things that I missed
the most. And we were just down in Mexico a
couple of weeks ago, actually, and that was kind of
the perfect experience of good food. That is really the
best day. I just had my best pizza pizza and Nashville,
my girlfriend listen, Nashville had best pizza. Ye city House.

(01:41:11):
Have you ever been to City House in Nashville? Yeah?
I love? Have you ever been to Jack Browns in Nashville?
Jack Brown's burger joint? You have to go. I'm going
tomorrow to Actually almost cried that I when I found
out that, like, I could have Jack Brown's this this weekend.
I've never even heard of Jack Brown. I know. It's
a little far out. It's like not on the Broadway air. Okay,

(01:41:34):
just just google it. Where are you from? Are you
from Denver as well? No, I'm well I live in
l A. I'm from northern Virginia and you're giving me
food tastes. Well, it's because this burger chain originated in
my college town and then they expanded throughout like that
central that like mid Atlantic area. All right, yeah it

(01:41:54):
out anyway, My last question for you, do you have
any more questions? I do have one last one. I'll
finish up with you. Okay, you are playing a grand
old operay on the seventeen. That is gigantic. It's that place.
It's the hume of country music, and it's such I mean,
it's one of those things that makes country music different
to every other genre. We have this kind of family
and this kind of hume bise and yeah, it's gonna

(01:42:14):
be great. So my last question, And I've always wanted
to ask an artist this and I never have and
every time I get really angry with myself when I
forget okay. Um, last night we were able to participate
in an incredible show here where it was just acoustic
and there was like a people and it was super intimate,
and every single artist that got up on stage was
impressive in my mind because it felt like their first

(01:42:35):
time I ever playing the song. It felt like they
were excited to play it. And and I think anybody's
a fans loves to hear the music. And I have
a point here. I have the questions at the end,
but I gotta lead up to it. Um. But uh,
we would be naive to think that every time you're
playing these songs all the time, you're in front of
people every night and you're engaging a crowd, how do
you keep yourself staying authentic getting excited and prepping for

(01:42:59):
every show to make sure that the audience has the
best time, and also that you're enjoying yourself, so you
don't feel like a robot, right right? I I don't.
I don't know that. I. I mean, you gotta understand
to like, to get to somewhere to play, so much
has to happen. You have to get on a plane
or a bus and travel all night and and that
moment you're on stage that that's the only reason you

(01:43:21):
do it. So I don't know that. Consciously, I have
to get myself in that head space. I feel like
that is the moment that I'm looking forward to all day.
So that's a genuine excitement that you see from everyone
on stage, like that's the reason they here to do that.
So that's probably the answer to your question. There's a
lot of stuff we don't necessarily enjoy doing to get
to that moment. So yeah, it's easy to appreciate that.
Awesome man cool Well Hey Morgant, Evans considers continues to

(01:43:44):
be a stud. Uh, thanks for coming on, man, Thanks
your voice all day long, you're speaking voice or perfect.
We're still here at Live in the vineyar Goes Country,
which has been a magical experience. Aren't really like, yeah,

(01:44:07):
this is just something special. The wine is flowing, the
sun is shining, people are singing, and we're all here
enjoying this incredible event. Coming up next to the podcast
is somebody who has really been a household name for
almost a decade. Which how are you a household name
for almost a decade when you are only twenty five

(01:44:30):
years old? I think we need to ask It would
be amazing to ask Scottie McCreery how he's been a
household name for so long and he's so young. Good
thing he's here with us, Scotty, Welcome to the podcast.
So we've met last year at August of Georgia at
the Masters. My dad is my dad's bucket list. It's
good place, like next level, amazing, like it's incredible. You're

(01:44:53):
a good golfer, right, I pretend to be. It's I like,
I like it. I was at August a couple of
days ago, actually got the chance to play, and it
was it was sick. What do you shoot? Augusta? So
this is my first time recond ninety but I shot
eighty one and eighty one with the eight on the
second hole, which is really not good. You and I
could talk with gust To all day, but ours something

(01:45:15):
that was really cool about that and and our listeners.
I always love to hear this kind of stuff. Is
I met your buddies actually first backstage, my dad never
standing there, and you're you're on stage and your buddies
were talking and you had brought them with you to
this amazing experience just to enjoy it with friends, right,
That's to me, that's what life is about. I mean,
I don't want to go through this stuff just doing

(01:45:37):
things by myself with whether's my wife, my buddies, and
I just want to hang out and make membories of
moments with people. You know. Yeah, that's what it's all about.
You could tell they were just I mean, actually, I'm
telling you his buddies were such a big fans of
him and as like friends not just like but like
just loving it. Like they're like so celebratory. Like what's
really cool is when you see a guy, you know,

(01:45:58):
make it who's has friends from the past and now
the friends aren't jealous, but they're supportive and like just
uplifting and just like that's my dude. Yeah, it's like
an Entourage life. You get to just live this awesome
life with their friends. You may not be the one
the spotlight, but you're still getting perks. We all have
a pretty good time. There's there's eight of us and
we we we traveled in the pack. Yeah. Hey, to

(01:46:18):
get a start here, we gotta talk music, we gotta
talk love. Um, that's what this podcast about. But first
we were sitting here talking, we had to google it.
You're twenty five years old. This is mind boggling to me.
I was like, he was at least eighteen. When you
want Idol, you were you were the last season of
Idol I ever watched you now, but like you were
the last of the Heyday. It was a fun season.

(01:46:40):
I felt like everybody in season ten, like Jago was
great at gospel and James was killing it in rock
and roll, and like everybody had their thing and it
was very unique season. I thought, really awesome. Yeah, we
have this deal, right, we come from this crazy reality
show called The Bachelor we watch Oh my goodness, Well
this is too cool because before there was the Bachelor

(01:47:02):
of my life, there was American Idol. Like the two
chapters of my TV life. There you go. So if
you don't know Ash, she's a she's a big girl.
Makes your wonderful. But so we come from this show.
We always talk about like the we have a couple
of other Bachelor contestants a man to stand Andasia behind you,
and we always talk to them about this, uh, this
idea that you go from just being a normal person

(01:47:24):
to be on a show and then you putt put
in the spotlight. Now you have a talent. So I'm
not trying to compare the two of our world. But
at sixteen years old, you win Idle and it launches
you into this whole new like planet out of nowhere.
How do you handle like, can you help us a
little bit relate with where your mind went to, what
that was like for you and kind of looking back now,
does it feel like a different world? Do you feel

(01:47:45):
like you're in a different world? It's definitely, I would say,
when you're in the spot like that like that, it's
it's not reality. I mean, there's so much more to
life than than cameras and lights and all the craziness.
But it took a lot of getting used to that.
The first time somebody called my name and it wasn't
a friend or a family member. I was like, who
are you and how do you know? But uh, you know,
it's one of those things that I'm a very laid

(01:48:07):
back guy, just go with the flow and just take
things day by day. And but it was very odd
at the start, especially that you know, everybody loves going
through their awkward teenager years on national television. Right, you
still looked very cute doing it. You didn't look stuff.
I can't go back and look at I'm like, oh
my god. Alright, So the Bachelor, we get the number

(01:48:27):
one question I think we get as Bachelor contestants is
how real is the show? Is it scripted? Like? Is
it all fake? And you guys are actors. When I
look at an American Idol, I think, oh, it's just legitimate, right,
just a singing contest. But then when I hear from
American Idol contestants, they make it seem like it's much
more manipulated and much more reality show than people think.
Can you give us a little bit of insight on

(01:48:48):
all this? Yeah, they definitely want to make it very reality.
I mean when it comes down on the gritty, like
you go on stage, you sing, your song and that's that.
But behind the scenes of like producers like, hey, why
don't y'all go do this? Well, I mean they were
cameras phoning. They would go to the bathroom with it
if they could. We ever barely saw that footage. Oh
I know, like I feel like they tried to do
because they put us in a mansion at first, which

(01:49:09):
sounded amazing until we got in there. It's just like
twenty people in like two rooms and yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Like they just want the drama, They just want people
to live with each other like that. I always thought
American Idols should have a show, like a spin off
show where an hour of the week was dedicated to
just watching the contestants, like the top ten or twelve

(01:49:30):
interact in the mansion together. But then I thought that
perhaps it would sway the vote because I think it
would be would be voting based on personality and not
on talent. Oh yeah, they're They're definitely a camera on
moment to camera off moments for sure. So I gotta
tell you a little story here Easton over here, who
is one of our producers on the show. He also
is a producer with Ryan Seacrest and the Ryan Seacrest Show.

(01:49:52):
So he gets massive people in an at the studio
all time, right, I mean every day people are coming
in now. Um And we were driving the car here
and we got the confirmation that you're gonna come on
the podcast, and Eastern freaks out, I mean gets so
pump to start playing your music in the car, all
five of us driving from Oakland to Napa, just absolutely doing.

(01:50:12):
So my point of this is, you know, we we
can laugh and talk about our past on both reality shows,
but you have done. You've made this a career and
been successful, and so you know, yes, American Idol is
is a is a part of your story, but it
was not the end. It was not the last chapter.
You've done far greater things. How have you done? I mean,
obviously because you're talented, but also how have you navigated

(01:50:35):
to make that happen and kind of separate yourself into
a whole different paradigm you have. There's so many people
that just know Scottie and they have no idea that
you came from idol, and that I think is the
ultimate compliment for American Idle contestants. I think it's you.
Kelly Clarkson, Uh, Daughtry, Carrie Underwood. Those are like the
four that I think of when I think like have
separated there not today, because I don't know if that's

(01:51:00):
so you can appreciate it. Yeah, I think the the
goal in music is just to get songs out there
to connect with people. So it took me a while.
In my first few years, I didn't write any songs,
and then my next album I wrote a couple. But
this last record, I mean, we're every song on the
record and just from the heart, and I feel like
folks relate to that. They see that and they see
themselves in the song. Like man, that song reminded me

(01:51:20):
of the time about my boys. That song reminded me
of me and my wife's story. So, um, I think
it's just about being relatable, getting music out there, and
just being real at the end of the day. Yeah,
that's amazing. Yeah, you know you have a speaking of songs,
you have a new song out, a new single in between. Uh,
so as you think about the idea of being relatable, Sure,
what made this song relatable in your eyes to the

(01:51:42):
general public. Yeah, I think the whole song, I mean,
in my opinion, we wrote the song just kind of
talking about my life and where I'm at. And a
lot of times on TV or wherever you only see
the extreme crazy people on one side or the other,
it's like most of us outs they are just kind
of doing our own thing, just chilling, just right down
the middle. And one of my favorite lines in the
song is the hook. It goes, I ain't all Holy

(01:52:02):
Water and I and all Jim Beam. I'm somewhere in
between you. I feel like that's most of us. You know.
I can I can calm down and have my Jesus time,
but I can also go out and have have a
good time as well. So, yeah, how old were you
when you met your wife? Five? Yeah? Okay, that's what
I thought. I was like, yeah, yeah, okay. So this
is why I asked because I remember you being on

(01:52:22):
idol and you said that you had a girlfriend, and
I thought, you know, as being like a fan girls
like oh no, he should have never said he had
a girlfriend because now all these fan girls are gonna
be like, oh no, I don't have a chance anymore.
But then you end up marrying her. Yeah, how has
she dealt with you? Going from somebody that she knew

(01:52:42):
at five years old? Scotty the Winner of America Adolt
to Scotty the Country music Sensation. Yeah, you know. I
mean she's my best friend, number one. That's that's first
and foremost. We just we know all about each other.
We're just we're there for each other. So there's that.
She's also I would say, my biggest fan when she's
always written for me and helping me out. But at
the same time it's as cool as it is, it's

(01:53:04):
also like, well, that's just Scotty, Like that's just the
kid I knew back in the day and it's the
same guy. So she's Yeah, she she's incredible for sure.
I got lucky with her. How do you meet at five?
Like she the next door neighbor. We met our first
day in kindergarten class. You're gonna make Ashley Cross talk
about a love story. This is a full circle. Uh.

(01:53:25):
We've brought the bachelor and love into this country music
that Scotty, You're a good man. I appreciate you having
me own thanks for having on the podcast. When I
told my wife we were talking, she was like, oh
my god, we really are would be fans of the show.
We watch every Monday. So I'll representing Jesus. Well, man,
I'm doing it. Get out there, and uh make sure

(01:53:47):
everybody out there listening checks out in between, uh wherever
you can listen to music, we're hopefully. Yeah, it's definitely
out there. Hey, thanks be a country star, Scotty McCreary.
Could you with a more country name? I think you could?
All right, Well, that was quite a podcast. I don't

(01:54:08):
know if we've ever had a podcast with so many
famousests of famous one and then like to have such
a variety of guests. Can you imagine had Tassia here,
we're standing here right now, We're sitting here right now
looking at like Amanda Stanton, who's famous, and then we
have Morgan Evans and Scotty McCoury on Ashley. We're Napa Valley.
What as our life became? I don't know, but I

(01:54:31):
just can't believe I just interviewed an American idol, because
that would have been my goal ten years ago and accomplished.
We just keep crossing off goals on this podcast. Thanks
for doing this podcast, and thanks for doing the podcast
with me, Ben and doing all the great intros and outros,
because you're such a king at that. This is like,
I'm really thankful for your skill at intro and outros,
and I really get awkward with them. I love a
good interview, but like something about saying and here doing

(01:54:53):
the nice flattery thing and then going into the guests.
I can't do that, and you're so good at it.
I think we're a good team. It might be why
this can and use the word I don't know. Hey,
and everybody out there, thank you for listening. I hope
you've enjoyed this podcast as much as we've enjoyed making it.
We love you, we thank you, and we want to
come back for more. So please keep listening next week

(01:55:14):
to the Almost Famous Podcast as we break down episode
three of Hannah by season. Oh and you guys, let
us know if you want this podcast tour to be
a thing, because we already have three dates that we
really want to hit up. We're s Indiana, you better
watch out, and Fairfax County, Virginia and Savannah, Georgia. With that,
I've been been, and I've been Ashley. We'll see you

(01:55:36):
in your city very soon. Peace, as cold would say.
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