Season of the Nick

While the rest of the world relives Nick Viall’s season of The Bachelor, Ben and Ashley go straight to the source and catch up with the girls from his season!

Alexis Waters gives us the REAL story on Nick in a way only Alexis could get away with. And she shares all about the “vagina dance”.

Angela Amezcua opens up about being sent home on night 1 and she dishes about her ex Clay’s new relationship on “90 Day Fiance”!

Plus, we hear how Kristina Schulman’s life has changed since being on The Bachelor and we get an update on her relationship with Blake.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
with i R Radio. We're back again with another episode
of the Almost Famous Podcast. I'm not gonna say for
how many weeks in a row because I have no clue,
but I'm gonna say like nine percent of the time,
maybe ninety five percent at the time, I am your
co host, Ben with my other co host, Yeah, your

(00:24):
other co host me Ashley Ashley, and they are back again.
We're We're here very consistently right now. I feel like
we're doing a great job at sticking out during COVID.
You and I have not like had to have fillins
in the longest time, and that's because we're recording remotely.
So beforehand, we were always like in the studio and

(00:46):
we were doing set days, and there was like sometimes
reasons that you couldn't be there on set day. But
you know, when you could do it remotely, it would
be odd if Ben and I both couldn't find an
hour that we were both free a week. It so
it's tough not being around you and being able to
see your facial expressions and like working off of your

(01:07):
energy and studio. But I will say that doing it
remote has added like I don't know, maybe consistency. And
then also it's just easier not to be traveling so much. Yeah,
I mean, you're still traveling, right, but we're doing it
pretty safely, and Jared and I are doing lots of

(01:29):
little trips. That's my favorite thing about My favorite thing
about this time period has been kind of taking advantage
of the outdoors around you, right, because we all know
the outdoors is the safest place to be these days,
and summer has obviously made doing little things outside easy

(01:50):
and fun. And I think we're going to start all
getting kind of cabin favor again once the temperatures go down.
But we've been doing like a nice little fun adventures,
especially on the East Coast. It's so easy to do that.
Like we went to Block Island and we went to
Nantucket and they're just ferry rides over there, and it's
just it's cool because, uh, it's an exploration, you know,

(02:11):
it's like little it's discovering the magic that is America.
I think America is such an underrated beauty. I think
we talked about this. I don't know what trip we
went on, but I think we wanted a trip and
I just realized, like America is so underrated. There are
so many cool and stunning spots. Oh, it's it's gorgeous.

(02:33):
You remember, we're entering into this season again, just a
few months away where puzzles suddenly sold out and people
were stuck inside doing puzzles and arts and crafts and
finding things to do in the winter. Is it not wild,
Ashley to think that we are only a few months
away from that happening once again? It's bizarre. It's so weird.

(02:57):
It makes me just do you like ever think think
about I mean, now we're getting really personal, but do
you ever think about selling your Denver place and then
moving to Tennessee and like doing your life differently now
just because you don't have any idea when things might
start getting normal again. Well, I think that's a common

(03:19):
question for everybody, and you tie into a great question
for this week to all of our listeners. Listeners, how like,
what new life decisions are you making that were maybe
unexpected a year and a half ago, that are now
on the front of your mind. And for me, I'm
not considering moving from Denver because Denver is a great
place to get outside, and I know it's a place

(03:41):
that Jess and I do want to call home for
a period of time. But the one thing that Covid
has kind of made me think of doing is even
like downsizing so that I can be closer to her family,
my family and friends uh more often and kind of
I can just pick up and go. And I think
a lot of people, from what I'm hearing, are leaving

(04:03):
these bigger cities right now and moving back home or
moving to smaller towns once again, which we never thought
would happen. That was a totally unexpected thing because they're
finding that the quality of life on these smaller towns
is pretty great. It's great for these places. They're calling
it like mass exits, you know, like a mass exodus

(04:26):
of New York and l A. And it just makes
me think, like I feel like I've been wasting so
many months of rent right because we were into our place.
We love our place in l A. It's such a bargain,
It's like a steal, which is why we would never
want to get rid of it for you know, the
next couple of years. But then I'm also like, if

(04:48):
this is going to last, who knows how long, Maybe
this is just gonna end up being a huge waste
of money, and we could have put that towards buying
a house on the East Coast. Anyway, it's it's all
questions is to consider and people are asking those questions now.
We're in that phase of this pandemic that people now
are starting to pick their heads up, look around and

(05:09):
go what will life look like? Well, obviously this is
a bachelor focused podcast. We are going to be breaking
down all of the hot topics going on in Bachelor Nation.
I mean, we have headlines ranging from when and where
Matt James's season is going to be filmed, to some
more details on Claire's season. Exciting things coming up. But

(05:32):
before do, let's take our first break. When we come back,
we're gonna break down all of the Bachelor headlines in
this week. First headline is Claire Crawley's Bachelorette gets premier

(05:53):
day as ABC promises, listen to this, Actually we need
you to explain this explosive turn of events. So the
supposed switchero of Bachelorette would is that that seems like
what that's pointing to. ABC did announce on Thursday that
the season of the Bachelorette will be premiering two hour

(06:15):
episode on Tuesday, oct Don't forget that this season, The
Bachelorette will be on on Tuesdays, and Dancing with the Stars,
where you can watch Caitlin Bristow will be on Monday nights,
so you kind of get your double dose of bachelor there. Uh.
They also they don't really say anything else about the season.

(06:36):
They actually don't even make mention of Tassia. So it's
still up in the air as to when they will
officially announce this or if they even will. Perhaps they
just think that it will be fun if they never
bring it up, if Tassia is not ever seen in
any promo, and uh, it just happens when one day
while we're watching the show. It's it's all still so

(06:59):
up in the air. And honestly, ever since the announcement
came out, we know very little. There hasn't been any
other rumors or any other details given, which makes it
exciting for us as the viewer. So there's still a
lot up in the air. But as Ashley just said,
the Bachelorette will be airing on Tuesday. Speaking, did you
see the poster at the promo poster, I've seen the trailer.

(07:21):
I'm assuming the poster is mocked off. Is it the respect? Okay,
go look it up. You need to see it because
I need to know your analysis on it. It's kind
of weird. So Claire is looking very sexy in the
corner of a room, pretty seductive. But then in the
foreground is a picture of a man putting a sock on,

(07:43):
and I'm thinking it's a play on the graduate poster
where you know, Dustin Hoffman's in the background, and then
she's got the stocking rolled up on her leg in
the foreground. But I'm just like, really weird it out,
because are they like trying to make it seem like
Claire some cougar, like she's an elder to the boys.
That would be weird. Um, let me look it up.

(08:06):
I'll let you know. But by the time we're done
with headlines, I will have it looked up and I'll
have my analysis given. Actually we're mentioned in the premier
day and the poster, but I said a little bit
ago in passing, but did you see the respect trailer
that just came out. It's very cute. They have clips
of Claire's past where she's demanding respect from for a man,

(08:26):
and she you know, she's walking around spinning that rose
looking super hot. Doesn't give us any clips or teasers
as to what her season is going to be like,
but we know that she's going to bring that powerful
woman presence, stand up for herself and demand respect, and um,
what what's the ward besides respect that she's going to

(08:46):
demand of these men? Like maturity? Yeah, I mean, I
think I think clear knows what she wants, and I
think not only will she want respect, which everybody wants,
but she's also going to bring a level of maturity, clarity,
and I think honesty that will be important to push
everybody forward. And probably I mean I always think that

(09:06):
honesty brings out vulnerability, and so I bet we're going
to see some vulnerability as well. But speaking of Claire's season,
Dale Moss is all smiles. We see him running in
New York City following you know, the rumors with him
and Claire. So remember how like I think last week
we said we thought that the two of them would

(09:28):
be confined to the Laquinta resort throughout filming. Should we
do a spoiler alert before that? I mean no, because
we still don't know where this ends and how it ends.
We just know, it's rumored that something happens between him
and Okay, so the guy that Claire supposedly you know,

(09:49):
falls for was seen out and about New York, so
I guess he is no longer confined to Lakinta. We
saw Claire at Laquinta last week. We were assuming that
you would end up staying there the entire time to
keep secrets right, so that she wouldn't be out and
about and being it being obvious to the fandom that

(10:10):
she is no longer filming. But a very happy man
is seeing in this picture smiling. You can check out
the photo on Life and Styles website, and there are
some other spoilers that we won't go into, but if
you are somebody who likes spoilers, go ahead and read

(10:31):
that article. He definitely is all smiles. He's running. It
looks like he's probably running pretty fast. He's got a
good a good stride on him. He looks like he's
a happy man. Who knows what the happy man because
there's a paparazzi taking a picture of him, or he's
just happy because he's running and moving his body and
feeling alive. I wish I knew every time a paparazzi

(10:53):
took a picture of me, but I asked some really
bad ones out there. Um, I wish I looked this
good every time a paparazzi was taking a picture. Half
the time, I'm in sweats, my hats all messed up,
and my hair is undone. I'm frowning just because that's
the way I rest. I don't know. It's rough, it's
a rough life. He doesn't look that bad. Pretty good,

(11:14):
he's shining. Uh. Next headline, this is one that's interesting
and and I would say typically happens in breakups. But
Colton Underwood and Cassie Randolf unfollow each other on Instagram
three months after they're split. Yep, I mean pretty much.
The headline says it all. How do you feel about unfollowing?

(11:37):
Are you an N follower? Did you unfollow Lauren? Let's
be honest, Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean I think it
was like healthy. I did it. We did it pretty
much right away, and we had talked about it, like
mostly as soon as the breakup happened. We both knew
that this was going to be brutally hard, and so
I remember us saying, yeah, like, it's not like it's

(11:59):
just needs. We just need to cut ties because any like,
we're gonna already see a lot of each other. You're
already gonna be I'm gonna see your pictures pop up
different places. Let's make this easier impossible. Now, it was
pretty soon after our breakup. The interesting here is one is,
you know, we've we talked about it, Like Colton still
has hung out with Greg Sulkin, who is UH dating

(12:20):
Cassie's sister, And now we hear that Greg had stopped
following Colton as well. Oh that's oh interesting, So maybe
it's a total family cut off. They of course had
the intention of remaining friends, and I think that's so
so often the intention, and then you realize it's just

(12:40):
not a good plan, or it's something you tell each
other to make yourselves feel better in the moment, and
then once it starts to fade, you go, Okay, we
didn't actually have to be friends. I don't know many
of my buddies who have a breakup that's meaningful that
stays like close friends right away? Right I have ex
is that I'm friends with Uh and that I admire

(13:03):
and want to see the best for. But right away
it just isn't like it just doesn't. It's not a
clean break. Ever, I don't know anybody's and you know,
I can't say ever, I've never known anybody to have
a clean break, and so it's not surprising. This isn't
a shocking headline, but it does speak to probably where
their relationship is at and that they're both moving forward

(13:26):
without each other and in each other's lives. Do you think,
do you did you creep on X's once you broke
up and on follow them? You would still go back
and look at the profile. There is just something so
strong about clicking on follow Uh. It's it's like a

(13:48):
bad addiction, like it pulls you back in over and
over again, and you do it like I almost did it.
I remember back in the day, like almost to feel
the pain, like it was stupid. I would look at
it to like hurt absolutely, You're like, I'm not gonna
do I'm not gonna do it, Okay, I'm gonna do
it really really quick. And then you do it, and
then you always find something that hurts you more. And
there is I say this all the time, there's some

(14:10):
sort of beauty in the pain, and we get addicted
to that overwhelming sense of feeling. You know, it's just
like we want to feel. We're addicted to feeling deeply,
even if it's like feeling bad. Yeah, I wonder what
it would be that we're actually looking for. Like if
I would click on an excess page and see them
looking stunning, that makes me mad because I'm like, wait, WHOA,

(14:33):
that's stupid. And then I see him happy, and then
I'm like just selfishly mad at them for being happy.
And then I see them sad, and I'm sad for
them because I don't want him really being that sad.
Like there was a no win like some there when
I was going back to look at these pages, but
I did it, and I did it for some like
I wanted to fulfill some hole in my heart. There

(14:54):
are some past crushes of mine that I still follow
or that i'll check back in with, like to see
their profile just because now I'm I'm so happy and
settled and I'm just genuinely curious what's going on in
their life. But I don't think you can do that
soon after. I think this is a years after thing
where it becomes just curiosity. I agree. Well, speaking of

(15:18):
exes and talking about X is. I just want to
give everybody reminder to go back and listen to our
in depth episode with Andy Dorfman which aired last week.
She is awesome and super open and we had a
great conversation with her about all of her exes and
her you know, writing about her exes and her time
on the show and her time off the show. So

(15:39):
just go back listen to that in depth episode. That's
one that we've waited for for years and it was
uh far exceeded our expectations. Next headline is Rachel Lindsay
thinks being bicoastal, we'll test and that's in quotes her
relationship with Brian. This according to us, we yeah, so

(16:00):
congratulations to Rachel. She's now an officially official regular correspondent
on Extra. That is amazing. But this is also going
to make her by coastal and that this is when
the pandemic cools down a bit more. She says it's
going to be a test to her relationship with Brian.
She says she's just addicted to working, and Brian doesn't

(16:22):
hold that against her at all. He actually loves that
she's obsessed with working and he's very supportive of it.
She also says that he always tells people that the
main thing that he's attracted to about her is her ambition.
So there's a great understanding between the two of them.
It's not always easy to be long distance or for
her to be such a workaholic, but he's very supportive

(16:43):
of what she's doing, and she's supportive of what he's doing.
But it will be a test still, Um, I mean,
you can't get any farther apart than l A and
my I mean I would I if I think about this,
I don't think it would it. It's easy, easier said
than done, though. I feel like I would be fine

(17:05):
doing long distance for a period of time, but long
term without knowing if there was an endpoint would be hard.
Like you're currently doing it right now, but you have
an endpoint. You especially had an endpoint before Corona. But
I guess with Rachel and Brian he is going to

(17:26):
stay firmly in Miami for now, so that is hard.
It's challenging. I do think it's a test, but a
test cannot always be bad, right, you know? You you
get the excitement of seeing each other again, you get
the uh kind of the anxious feelings when you know
you're on your way to see your partner. That that's
all good. And as we speak, you know, they are

(17:47):
celebrating uh their anniversary in a Ruba right now, and
so all of that is, you know, is pointing to hey,
they want to make this work. This is going to
be a positive thing for them. They've talked it through
a couple. It's just a challenge, and challenges come up
in relationship. Speaking of challenges, Victoria Fuller, you might know

(18:08):
as Victoria f posts about on Instagram about waiting for
him to apologize amid and we're relating this back to
the Chris Soul's relationship. This again according to US Weekly.
So this was super interesting to me when I saw
her Instagram post with this caption, because I said, hmmm, Sassy,
is this a subpost? You know, like we used to

(18:31):
call it subtweets when the tweet was obviously about somebody.
But you're trying to play it off as big well,
she says in the caption, when you're sitting there waiting
for him to apologize, but he don't know he did
something wrong because you didn't tell him, because he should know,
so so, um, is she waiting for him to apologize

(18:55):
for something that he did but didn't know it was wrong.
I mean, what would that have been? Right? Like, there's
just so much too that that we don't know. But
we hope he knows now that we hope it points it.
But again, do we even know this about souls? What
would what would this be? Why would she post that,
like this picture of her being like very seductive bikini

(19:19):
legs spread on a bed, an outdoor bed, and she's saying,
you're sitting there waiting for him to apologize. Why why
would she post that if it was not about anyone?
Was she just thinking that it was a funny caption
and that her face looked slightly piste off? Maybe like

(19:42):
that could be that's the best case scenario for the
two of them right now, that's the best case. My
theory is she wouldn't she wouldn't post this if it
wasn't if it was something really big, like a really
big problem, because they have been so private about their
relationship that I don't think now she'd be like, I'm
going to call him out on Instagram. I think maybe

(20:04):
they had like a funny, little nothing fight and maybe
he just needs a reality check. That's a good point.
They've been so private about their relationship since the beginning.
When we started to hear the rumors of it, we
did get a confirmation that they were dating, and so
we know that those rumors at some level were true.
It would be a It would be a radical move

(20:26):
and it wouldn't be it necessarily uh similar to what
they've done with their relationship so far, for her to
go this far and for the first time really announce
her relationship with him and also call him at the
same time, So who knows. We don't know. However, this
was posted and it brings up the rumors and it's
worthy enough for us to talk about now, something that's

(20:47):
definitely worthy to talk about, something we're all excited for.
Not only are we excited for Claire Slash possibly tatious
season of The Bachelor at but we're also very excited
for the Bachelor season. And it was announced the filming
location for Matt James season. It's now revealed. This according
to Reality Steve So. This is according to Reality Steve Uh.

(21:11):
He says that the filming will begin late September at
the Enemi Colon Woodlands Resort in Pennsylvania. If you guys
remember the Pittsburgh date with Joe Joe, the guys stayed
here there, they stayed there, uh, and they went to
hines Field to do some stuff with the Steelers, which

(21:32):
is really cool. But then she went back to the
resort to have a take a one on one with
Luke or it was a chase er Luke and they
went into like this big barrel hot tub that was
at NMI Colon. I also think there may have been
like some dog sledding at EMMI Colon. Uh. So yeah,
if you guys remember that that episode, you'll be seeing

(21:55):
a lot more of that resort coming up. This is
being speculated because us there. They're saying that the hotel
is unavailable for booking as of like late September through
early November, and they'll be doing what they did with
Claire slash Tastios season and be filming the entire series

(22:16):
on one location. At least they'll be good at it.
They're gonna be good at I am shocked a little
bit here. Actually here's why, because it's not like the
weather in Pennsylvania is fantastic that time of year, and
in fact it's not great at all. Well, so my
thought is, like, are they trying to do a cozy
fall scenario, Like are they trying to have like a

(22:38):
winter vibes feel, because starting in late September in Pittsburgh,
it'll probably be like sixties and below and it'll be
a romantic atmosphere, but there definitely will be no bikinis,
no pool parties. Uh yeah, which I mean, honestly, I

(22:59):
could take or leave that stuff. That that stuff is
always a little awkward. It's not exactly like great for
a relationship. It always causes dramas. Somebody's always hurt, upset,
comparing each other to each other. So like, I'm excited
to see a fall Bachelor if that were the case now, Ashley,
I haven't had a chance to speak with Matt yet.
I am speaking with him this week. I'm excited for

(23:21):
it because I hear nothing but great things about him
and uh and I'm really excited to kind of dive
into where he's at and where his heart's at, uh
in this whole process. It's something I try to do
with each Bachelor coming up. Um and uh. Yeah. So
I I don't have a read on him yet because
I don't know him, but I have a feeling that

(23:42):
wherever they're at Matt James is gonna be a terrific bachelor.
He's gonna care about these women a lot. Godfather of
the Bachelor's Ben Higgins always having his advice. It's so
nice that you get to know this evil then you
can kind of let me in on how they are.
And somebody tweeted us email us and I was like,
holy moh, that's so crazy. Did you know that? Over

(24:04):
a year ago, almost a year and a half ago,
when Tyler Cameron was on our podcast doing an in
depth we asked him who should the Bachelor bait and
he said, my friend Matt James. Well, he made it happen.
It's wild and bachel Nations pumped for it. I mean,
I can tell you that I know they're gonna be
pumped for this guy. They're gonna come out in droves

(24:25):
and support him, and so hey, I can't tell you
I give great advice. Quite honestly, I can't think of
any bachelor that's uh they've done far greater things than
I could have ever told them to, or they've failed miserably. Um,
But I I always enjoy getting to know him because
this is a crazy experience in their world. Is about
to change in so many ways, coming up very soon.

(24:46):
All right, So I did look up the Bachelor atte poster.
You're right, Yeah, this is definitely a play. This is
definitely uh makes me curious. I don't know they're saying
she's the cougar going after younger men, but it's hard
not to kind of jump to that conclusion after seeing this. Yeah,

(25:07):
it's such an epic movie poster, and it just seems
like an exact replica. I do love the tagline it's
about time Claire is looking good. Though good, she looks amazing.
There's also there's like a couple of taglines that I'm
sure they'll eventually start using, like double the trouble, double

(25:28):
the drama twice as something something you know they have
to play into that. M m. We'll see. All right. Well,
after the next break, we are going to be talking
about next season because the Goat episode aired last night,
and then we'll be interviewing Alexis, Christina Shulman, and Angela Angela.

(25:52):
So good, All right, stay tuned. Well, obviously, uh, Nick
season of The Bachelor is airing on the Goat episodes,
and we thought it would be awesome to just bring

(26:12):
on a plethora of guests and some of the best
known and the most loved contestants from his season. Our
first Angela was born and from Greenville, South Carolina. We
know her, uh for the most part. I would say
from Paradise. She I think would agree, uh, and she

(26:33):
blew up Paradise like I mean Ashley, Angela hit the
scene in Para just everybody was talking about Angela and
so yes, I think talking about the Goat episode well
is important, but we also know her for so much more. Angela,
Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Thank you, thanks for

(26:53):
having me. Angela. So you were on Nick's um A Patreon.
So Nick has this Patreon. He's going to talk to
us later in the episode about it. Basically, it's extension
of his podcast where he's doing in depth interviews basically
with the girls from his season. I anticipation of his

(27:14):
good episode airing. So, Angela, when I think of you
and Nick season, I think the number one question that
you have to ask is what the heck was he
thinking letty you and go letting you go on night one?
Do you guys address this on the patreon? UM yeah,
I mean, he doesn't come out and be like, Oh,

(27:35):
everybody was not at me for letting you go. But he,
you know, we address did he regret sending me home
night one? So that was interesting to hear from him,
and I'm glad that we got to talk about that
because I didn't know, you know, I had heard things,
but it was nice to hear it from the actual source.
Do you think, I mean, looking back now, do you

(27:57):
wish you would have been around longer for the relationship
with Nick or for the experience. So I was totally
there for both, to be honest, And that's something else
that we talked about, is I was That's why I
was just myself. I didn't try to like go out
of my way to you know, make seeing or cause

(28:17):
of ruckets because I wasn't there to be on TV.
I was there to see if something could work with him.
So I really wanted to see where it could go
with him. Um. I loved that he had a big
family and he seemed like he was great with his
um nieces and nephews, and that's something that I was
like looking forward to talking to him about. So, I mean,
obviously the experience would have been great. I did give

(28:38):
him crap because I missed the Backstreet Boys date that
would have been on my bucket lips hellow, I was
so mad. So I did give him crap that I
didn't get to stick around for that, but I think
everything worked out how to shut out. You know what's
worse than being eliminated before the Backstreet Boys date? Being
in the house, still in the girls coming back and
saying we had a Backstreet Boys date that's actually very true.

(29:01):
I never even thought about that. I would have been
so mad. Oh I want to freak the heck. Oh
we all know this. I was totally b I was
b over in. I was not. I was definitely That's
an argument for an other time. I get too fiery.
We can't go there right now, okay, but I do
love my Backshire Boys. Okay. So I want to support

(29:22):
Nick's Patreon and not like let too much info out
here as well where you can, you know, get it
for free. But I do want to know why he
said that he eliminated. You don want to come on? Good?
Come on? So he said there was two reasons. The
main reason, I guess, he said is one of the

(29:45):
higher up producers. I thought I was boring. He was like,
she's gotta go, and the second and we know who
it is, and the second that makes sense. But and
then the second reason was he was and I just
I didn't fight for you. And I told him, I
was like, well, I want a man who will fight
for me. And he said he didn't fight for me

(30:07):
because our conversation was kind of like blah, and he
didn't want to send anybody home that night that he
hadn't talked to and so he did talk to me
for like two minutes and it wasn't like out of
this world, and so he was like, all right, whatever. So, yeah,
I think it's impossible, absolutely impossible on night one to
really have a fair read on anybody's I don't like

(30:30):
if they're boring or not boring, because the night is
so chaotic and it's so anxiety written and there's so
many moving parts that like, I don't think you can
make that decision at night, like you have to get
to know these women or the men for that example.
During Bachelor att Yeah, he said, um, he said like

(30:53):
it was kind of just a whirlwind. And I mean, again,
I don't want to give away too much on what
he said about whether or not he she would have
kept me, but I liked the answer that he gave
in regards to okay, okay, do you I just find
it weird not to like give too much personal detail

(31:15):
about Nick, because we all know that he's one of
our close friends. But you're like very much his type,
so I thought that he'd be keeping you around for
physical reasons. For a while. He did tell me, he
said that I was like in the top tier of
like phys like physical attractiveness. Like Wise, that night, oh,

(31:35):
I think producer had a lot of influence, but also
he obviously that's not everything, and he said, like he
didn't fight for me. So it's a little bit of both.
I'm too boring, I think one of the biggest fears. Yeah,
I mean I think, honestly, you look back on that
time and I remember being asked often throughout the season, Hey,

(31:58):
is there anybody you sent home that you regret sending home?
And I remember my answer always being I guess I
don't know, right, Like I don't know the women, well,
I don't for the most part, Like I'm just trying
my best to like stay above water here. I am
intrigued if if you think, like if you would have

(32:18):
been around, do you think there would have been a
shot with Nick, Like do you see that relationship for me?
I don't. I mean I don't know. Maybe again, like
you said, like you don't, I didn't really get a
chance to get to know him. I thought there was
definite potential there, obviously, or else I wouldn't have agreed
to do the show. But I did have a feeling

(32:39):
like going in that I was gonna like get sent
home night one, or I was going to make it
towards the end. I felt like I wasn't really going
to fall in between. So I mean, I think that
there was definite potential, But looking back, I mean, I
don't know. I don't know. That conversation the first night
was so awkward, so I don't know. I think it will.

(33:03):
So I think I was a little bit in my
head obviously, because so I followed up the conversation with
Liz like he was talking to Liz. I'd interrupt them twice.
You remember they banged before the season, not like wait

(33:25):
a minute and though, and so they I interrupted and
he was like, oh, hey, we need a few more minutes.
And I didn't know that they knew that they knew
each other, and so I had to go back in
and I'm like thinking in my head, oh great, they're
having an amazing conversation that they don't want to end,
and I have to follow that, and then we got
like a two minute combo. It was just it wasn't good.

(33:48):
He was probably in such a wrong mindset. He well,
I guess I don't know if I can say this,
but he told me that like he wanted to talk
to anybody except her at that moment. So you can
say whatever you want. Now, that's why this podcast exists. Um,
I have I have a theory about you. I have
a theory that you are not boring at all. In fact,

(34:12):
I have a theory that you are very feisty. And
this is why Angela. I've seen you in person a
couple of times. You're obviously beautiful, and you've been on
the podcast, and you're a great conversationalist. But my fiance
and I were down in Mexico for a wedding at
one point, Um, and you walk down the aisle as

(34:35):
fierce as I've ever seen anybody before. I mean it
was a tangible fierceness. You are strutting your stuff and
ingest my fiance, who who doesn't watch a lot of
the show who I was trying to keep up with
on like updating on who was who. She looks at
me as you're walking down the aisle and goes, holy cow,

(34:55):
like it was it was there was something about you
in that walk that was representing a lot more than
just the strap on the aisle, Angela, Am I wrong?
Am I right? Everyone talks about the walk. I swear
to like, all right, first off, I blacked out, like
you know, so I've blacked out, But I honestly like

(35:22):
I did it. I swear like on everything. I didn't
go into it thinking like I'm gonna like work this
like I didn't. I really didn't, like, yeah, that's what
I'm saying. I'm a model, and so like I just
go I see a straight like lie like a runaway
you know what you mean? And it's just I was
in it. I don't know. I really didn't like intentionally

(35:44):
be like if you walk, you know what I mean.
I wasn't my intention, but it's my job. I don't
know if I went into autopilot, Angela. It was one
of the most fantastic, dramatic extra moments I've ever witness
in my life. I was like schouhealing, and Jared like
had to calm me down. He was like, actually, don't
be obnoxious as is somebody's wedding anyway that you like,

(36:10):
maybe I'm not boring after all. I don't think I'm boring,
but that producer thought I was boring, all right, But
the sass that you put across was all about Clay Harbor,
who was your boyfriend for a while during an off season.
You guys actually never really dated on Bachelor in Paradise,
but you dated between your two seasons of Bachelor in
Paradise and you he recently started dating a girl from

(36:35):
ninety Day Fiance and they were having dates air on
on TV because they hadn't met yet because of quarantine.
What's going on there? Are you following his story? And
how does it make you feel? No, I'm not following
his story, and it honestly makes me feel enough. I've been.

(36:57):
I've been so over that whole thing since I got
on the beach like last Paradise. Like I said this before,
but literally the moment that I knew that he stepped
onto the beach in Paradise, like whenever I found that out,
everything inside of me for him, just like went dead,

(37:17):
Like I don't have any ill will towards him. I
hope he's happy, and like I hope he has a
great life, but there is zero part of me that whatever,
like I never miss him or like miss us or
anything like. I hope he's happy, but I don't really
care to follow his story. I'm sure he doesn't care

(37:38):
to follow mine either. He definitely didn't like love his
relationship with Nicole. As for what we saw air on Paradise,
do do you Nicole have any sort of friendship now? Um?
I want to say we have a friendship, but I
mean she did apologize to me for you know, her actions,
and I appreciated that, and she said, you know, she

(38:00):
has judged me and and everything, and we um, we
actually did talk at um the reunion show for Paradise
last summer. They didn't show it. They filmed it, but
they never showed it. And she was, you know, just
like I should have listened to you. You were right,
I'm really sorry, And I was like, all good. You know,

(38:20):
I'm not a person to hold grudges. Obviously hurt, you know,
watching it back because I didn't know everyone was saying
all of that. But I mean, no, her and I
are fine. We're on good terms. We don't talk or anything.
But um, there's no ill will there Angela before we
let you go? H Is there anything that's going on
in your life? I mean, obviously right now, I feel

(38:40):
like life's like molasses for a lot of us. There's
just a very slow moving process. But is there anything
going on in your life that our listeners would be
intrigued by? Or if there's not, then how are you
keeping yourself busy doing during the pandemic? Um? I am.
You know, modeling is kind of really slow. It's been

(39:00):
slow since the pandemic. Um, you know, because we can't
get like close and do shoots and stuff like that.
But um, I do have a YouTube channel that I've
had for a year. Uh. The year anniversary is just
a few weeks ago, and I really like to do that.
I haven't been doing it as much obviously, UM, but
I am passionate about that. I love that. And then

(39:21):
I've been at home with my family in Maryland for
the last month. UM, just spending time here, taking care
of some things here. Um. But yeah, I mean life
is is pretty slow. I've just been trying to do
as much as I can and work on my YouTube
channel and hang out with my family because I never
get this much time with them. So it's been good.

(39:41):
It's a good family time. Yeah, yeah, I know. And
it's by the way, actually, happy anniversary. That's exciting that
I saw that one year. It flew by a mind boggle.
Don't understand how that happened. It felt like five months tops.
Oh gosh, well good. I'm so happy for you guys
and all these pictures. Hey, Angela, you're the best. Thanks

(40:06):
for coming on. Just to let you know, if Ashley
and I were nick, we would have never got rid
of you on night one. Just let you know that. Okay, Well,
thank you, I love you guys. Thank you for having
me coming up next. The girl who made a big
splash pun intended, we're gonna have Alexis on the phone
up next. All right, next up, we got our Jersey

(40:55):
girl from Sea Caucus, New Jersey. It's Alexis. She of course,
well is on next season and she was eliminated in
week five. She came back for season four Paradise and
that was the show season, and she was eliminated there
in week two. But she's not a boyfriend ever since
and is in a wonderful, loving relationship. Alexis Waters Welcome

(41:18):
too Famous podcast. Hello, Hello weirdly, Um, me and my
boyfriend just broke up. So this is breaking news. I
think you're kidding. I'm just kidding today, okay, because I
was like, I feel strangely about you too. I don't know.

(41:40):
He just uh like he he couldn't fill out like
the unemployment thing, and I'm like, Tyler, it is really
four questions, like you cannot, like I have things to do,
like he cannot. He's not tech savvy at all, so
he doesn't even know how to like trun on the TV. Like,
this is what I have to deal with. This is
that you just made my heart sink. That was so

(42:05):
question for you though, So let's just start with your boyfriend.
Talk on the questionnaire that we had you feel out,
you said a fun fact is the most embarrassing moment
is uh, your your ex telling you that you had
a mustache at a Giant's game. So is your current
boyfriend now in more trouble than your X was? Then No,

(42:27):
the X will forever be an asshole. I just want
everybody to know that that statement is the most Jersey statement,
and it resonates with my soul so hard. Having a
mustache at a Giant's game like that is me. And
there's something about the lighting at MetLife that will like

(42:49):
show your every flaw at a one o'clock game, Yes,
it was so hot out and like I had a
full blown like I just felt like the sun was
shining one and he calls me out like right before
the game. So then I was like like so insecure
and just thinking about my mustache the entire game. I

(43:10):
couldn't even enjoy it. And I was the stadium met
like it's like five minutes away from my house, so
I was legit taking my friends to bring me like
a tweezer or a razor just so I can uh
feel better about like all his friends with them too,
So I'm like they all probably are staring at my mustache.
It was just like a really bad day. So let's

(43:32):
let's just for everybody, Like here's one thing you learn
as you grow up, Right, it's not uncommon. It's actually
like a very very common thing. If not everybody, every
woman has like upper lip hair, and so like if
you if you call somebody out for that, like it's shocking.

(43:55):
You obviously have not dated nor have you been around
somebody long enough to see like this is not shocking.
This just happens, right, Yeah, no, But then Tyler, then
I started getting lazered on my mustache and I started
getting melasma. So so I was in Mikinosa Tyler and

(44:17):
I'm not even lying. He was like, it looks like
you have a five o'clock shadow, and I was like,
I can't catch a great girl, like it wasn't Greece
that my malasma mustache was also at its peak, and
I was like, I have more of a shadow there
than Jared does, and he's been growing his beard for
a week. I don't think Tyler can grow facial hair

(44:40):
only other Conjared, I can go. I can grow more
facial hair than than was anybody else. Hey, well, Alexai,
I love this conversation because my fiance is in the
skincare now, congratulations, thank you, and she like, I don't
I don't know if the right word like struggles with
asma or has melasma, and so like I hear about

(45:03):
melasma very often somehow, someway I'm getting educated on it. Yeah, no,
it's it's I got it from laser, so I don't
lazer my face anymore. And then when you're in the sun,
you're not supposed to be in the sun, but like I,
sunscreen doesn't even help it. It's just like being around
the sun and heat makes it worse. And I think

(45:24):
it's like something that millennial girls are are making, are
having more than any other generation because I've never I've
never heard of this term or more girls complaining about
it than I have in the past year or two. No,
I had a full blown, like five o'clock shadow and
beard like I was, and like the sun was shining.

(45:49):
I was just like, I'm just gonna deal with this.
Musta I just own it now. Yeah, Well, here's the thing,
as I am to summarize all of this, Ladies, you
aren't alone, You're you're frickly fine. Find a guy that
will just own it with you. And Alexis, we could
talk about you in your life, I think probably for

(46:09):
the whole podcast, but we do have to transition over
to as Ashley was saying earlier, like the Goat episode
Nick Vile season is airing, Um, what do you think
about it coming back on? And is your boyfriend gonna
watch it with you? Yeah, like, um, what does he?
What is your boyfriend think about this season re airing?

(46:30):
I would say that your boyfriend shouldn't have a problem
because I don't even know if you and Nick ever kissed. No, yeah,
we did kiss once, and it was just because I,
um was on a track and field date and I'm
like really athletic and I and I threw the shot
put and they had like whoever through the through the
shop put for this had to kiss him and I

(46:50):
didn't kiss him yet, and I was like somebody further
than me, like someone further than me because I was
so nervous. My heart was like literally beating inside of
my vaginant enough and like I won, so but it
was like the whole situation was just I think it
was like day two whatever, and I won the shop
but I had to run up and kiss him and

(47:11):
make out with him, and I was it was like
like the whole production crew like five um Olympic athletes
and I'm just like so nervous, but it was actually
a really good makeout and like my Vagina dance, I
was like, oh, I might be into him, and then
I wasn't Okay, so when did you realize that you
weren't into him? Um? Uh, well the first time. I

(47:35):
don't remember, so that one doesn't count. You mean the
night that you were in the Dolphins suit you have
no recollection of Yeah, shocking right, Um don't remember that night.
So no, we just had more of a friendship vibe.
Like I like he was he was like fun to
make out with, obviously just because he was the only
guy there. He's only piece of meat there. But other

(47:57):
than that, I just feel like we had more of
a friendship up than anything. But when when did you
decide it was just a friendship? Um? The Well, I
kissed the only time my vagina dance was the track
of Hill d And I made out with him like
every time whatever because I don't want to talk. And

(48:17):
then he just made these jokes and I was just
like he was just like somebody's jelly and it just
like I don't know, it like was like not creeps
me out. And then he said another joke and I
was just like, oh, who's like, who's ready to turn up?

(48:39):
And I was like not me, not me. I can't
imagine Nick ever saying that off. Now he goes who's
ready to turn up like and did like a knob
twitch and I was just like, no, I'm not I'm
not doing turning up like that. I'm turning out. I'm
going home turning out. And then he was like, Alexa's
don't be jelly like jealous, and I was like, oh

(49:01):
my god. No. It seemed like as he was so
much older than a lot of you that like he
really wanted to full on dad mode. Yeah, he was
thirty six. I went on the show when I was
twenty three, so you're twenty three, but I was, but
I was. I mean, I have four older sisters, so
I kind of matured faster than normal. I feel like,

(49:25):
I mean not really, I should have in a dolphin
shark costume that when I got blacked out wasted, So
I'm really mature. I was so mature. But now I
really liked Nick as the Bachelor though, But Tyler could
care less. He just um, we just did an interview

(49:47):
with Chris Harrison and Tyler got cut. Oh you got why?
What's what? Why is he not a talkative man? Uh?
I mean I don't know why he but I was.
I feel so bad because his danny and like his
whole family is like, when is how we're gonna be on?
And like I bounced out that he didn't make the

(50:08):
guy Oh brutal, I'm like loser, but he was like,
I mean I think I was just too much to
handle that they couldn't bring him on because I was
talking about your vagina dancing to Yes, I did, Yeah
that was and I did the dolphin call again. Was

(50:32):
so nervous to talk to Chris. I don't know why
I took like five to KILLO shots before the interview.
So I don't I kind of like blacked out. You
would think that, like you would like learn from past
experiences that that's probably not the way to go, probably
have the answer to making this work. Um, So the
summary is you don't think Tyler is going to watch
this and he really like doesn't show a lot of

(50:53):
interest in that in that experience. Oh no, I mean
he's supported. I mean I wouldn't have my business that
I had. I wouldn't have met Nation Nation. Sorry I
get real exit, um, but I wouldn't have met him
if it wasn't for going on the show. So yes
to appreciate it because I met its calm BERSO didn't

(51:17):
dump Nick file. Then I wouldn't have gone on and
met Rachel, who introduced me to Tyler. I'm telling you
so many couples have found there forever through the ties
that the bachelor gave them. Very very cool. Before we
let you go, I do want to talk about the

(51:39):
producer that somehow influenced you to wear the dolphins suit.
Did you have a beautiful gown picked out that night
and then you were like, yeah, screw it, bring me
the suit. No. So I was actually stoned when I
put my job title as aspiring dolphin trainer, and I
thought it was hilarious at the time you were stoned

(52:01):
in so I thought that you filled out that survey
or at least I did when I was quarantined, Yes,
a quarantine before COVID at the hotel that we stay
in for casting weekend. Was that where you fill this out?
Where did you bring some weed? No? No, no, I
spilled it out after I went to a casting in

(52:24):
Port latter Dale and they handed me an envelope and
then I had been that in so I know I
always want like that was my dream job when I
was younger, a dolphin trainer, So like I was just
really high, and I just put aspiring dolphin trainer. So
when we were going about like the night, well the
first night, I had a red dress and everybody's wearing
a red dress. Thank god, thank god I didn't. But

(52:47):
I'm like weird and I don't care what people think,
and I kind of wanted to do something. Uh. I
just wanted to like like the life of the party
and be like what's that bitches? And I was like,
the dolphins suit was out of stock, so we just
had to roll with the shark. And I was like,
I'm gonna just keep saying it's a dolphin until people
start believing me. You did a great job. You were

(53:08):
life at the party. You always are the life of
the party. Before we let you go, Alexis, you did
just mention your company for me be out there listening.
Just give him a quick summary of what you're doing,
where they can find it and uh and why they
want to purchase from you. Thanks, Ben. I mean right now,
my business has been hit hard obviously because nobody's going out,

(53:32):
but my hoops are the best. I don't know a
lot in life, but I do know a good pair
of hoops. So you can find me at who Nation
by Alexis dot com and you guys can get Flash
twenty five for off. And then also Raven and I
have a podcast called Girls Night, which we just started.
So that's been really fun because I kicked out him

(53:53):
off the podcast. Yeah, I cock blocked him. No longer,
no longer about Yeah, it's no longer Day Night, It's
girls Night now. But it's fun. I love it. So yeah,
I'm dude. The hoops are still if you want them.
I'm giving you your listeners a code flash off and

(54:14):
you can find me at alexis waters Underscore. You're the best, Alexis.
Thanks for coming on and good luck on the good episode.
Thank you so much. Oh my god, you're gonna die
on my episode. I was not okay. My interview with
Chris Harrison is so embarrassing. I'm like, I am not
well what we look forward to it, and so do

(54:37):
our listeners and uh and Alexis. I think we all
expect it to be, if anything, but entertaining. Hey, we'll
talk to you soon. Thank you, guys. By Alright, So
from a girl who made Nick laugh to a girl
that made Nick cry a lot, Christina is coming up next. Next.

(55:06):
Guest from the Bachelor season with Nick is Christina Shulman.
She obviously was a contestant eliminated in week seven, but
that's not the last time we saw her. She also
returned for the fourth fourth season of Bachelor in Paradise,
which was one of the biggest storylines compared to season.

(55:27):
She's with us today on the Almost from This podcast, Christina, Welcome,
Thanks for having me you guys. Hey, Christina, where the
world have you been during during the past couple of months.
I feel like you're you're You're been a wanderer a
little bit, I would say, Um, I mean, I kept

(55:47):
it to myself when it was needed to just staying
at home. But I did make a couple of trips,
like I did go that was fun and needed when
quarantine was kind of like lifted and travel borders open.
So I don't know, I was just doing my thing.
Well what a bit. I feel like everybody thinks of
you with Dean, nobody thinks of you with Nick. Is

(56:13):
this weird to have Nick season? Yes? Yes, so yes
it is. I was thinking about that and I was like,
it's just strange putting yourself back into the kind of
like four years ago and think that that was even
a relationship or a potential one. So um but yeah,
I mean I feel like I had more of a

(56:34):
relationship maybe with Deans than I did with Nick. So
I can understand why viewers would see that the you
know we we obviously have gotten to know you throughout
the past couple of years. And I remember the Christina
on Nick season who really you were vulnerable? You shared
your story impacted millions. How is life changed? Obviously a

(56:59):
couple of seasons Paradise are thrown in there, but how
is life changed since you know, this season of The Bachelor?
I would say, in the most wonderful, wonderful way possible.
I just think it naturally opens up many doors and
it depends like which one you take. But for me,
I always had this drive to do more, and um,

(57:21):
I wanted to like I wanted to move to California
at some point, and I didn't know I was going
to be able to do that. Um, but I don't know.
It's just sharing this story and touching so many lives
was I didn't understand the impact it was going to have.
After the messages I started receiving, I was like, Wow,
this is this is bigger than me. So Um, I'm

(57:44):
glad I was able to do that inspiring that way.
You talked to Nick very openly about your adoption and
just how horrible life was in the orphanage in Russia
before you came over to America when you were twelve. Right.
Did you talk to Nick on his patreon um episode
with you about just how emotional he got over one

(58:07):
you telling the story and too when he had to
let you go. I don't think we necessarily touch the
dive too deep into the story whenever we had the
one on one day, but it was difficult for him
to let me go, and I think, uh, maybe he
was thinking more into like what other people would think,
like oh, like the scroll or a goal from the

(58:29):
orphanage in engleipstick and whatnot. But I mean, it was
the process needed to happen the way it did, and
I understand why people need to go home at some point.
And I didn't want any like people feeling sorry for
me or not like just because of my story and
the way it is. It's just part of me. Um.
But yeah, we did uncover a little bit of some

(58:50):
really close friends since next season. Who is it that
you hang out with the most now and and what
do those friendships represent you? Good question, Um, I'd say
to hang out with Witney friends when more so, she
lives a little like two blocks from me, so I
can walk over to her place. It's just a given. Um,
definitely richel anytime she comes to all it's really nice

(59:12):
to catch up. Every time I talked to Alexis, I
talked to ask her here and there. It's just we
kind of keep up quite a bit with each other,
which is fun. Alexis, I'm just like supporting her hoops
all the time. Well on right now, I don't, but
she will tell you, like her biggest supporter. They're really adorable,
They're really good hoops and yeah, you can't have enough

(59:35):
hoops are just a go to. Well, Christina, We've obviously
been able to follow your story, the ends and the
outs and the ups and the downs, and we look
forward to many more memories. Uh. We're excited to watch
this GOT episode because of the familiar faces like yourself.
Thank you for coming on the podcast, Thanks for sharing
some time with us. And then obviously Nick who we're
gonna talk to you in just a second on his Patreon. Christina,

(59:57):
thank you, Thanks for having me. Guys, It's always nice
to catch up with former Bachelor cast Bachelor Nation peeps.
They seem to be doing well. They're obviously all thriving.
Nick season did have some characters that stood out. You know,

(01:00:20):
we think of one of our favorites current now obviously
uh almost famous favorite is Taylor Nolan. Both of them
were on this show. It's good to see it back
on television again where we first met him. Yeah, it's
fun because now I know Taylor is not, i'll be honest,

(01:00:41):
as annoying as I thought she was on the show.
I think she's fantastic in real life, right, But I
thought on the show I was like, oh, this girl
and her emotional intelligence and thinking that she's so much
smarter and like above all these women, right in all
these situations. And now I meet her in real life
and she's nothing like that. And then meet current in
real life and you realize that she has a lot

(01:01:02):
more character, she's a lot more serious, uh, and she
has a bigger heart I think than it came across
on TV. They're incredible. I mean, let's go down the
list for a second. Not only do you get three
women that we were able to talk to Christina, Alexis,
and Angela. But then you have to pull out some
of the names that maybe you forgot or even on

(01:01:23):
this season because they've done far crazier things again Krinn
and Taylor. You also have Rachel, Lindsay, you have Raven,
You obviously have Vanessa when we go on the list here,
there are just some incredible humans that went on this
show this season. Actually, one of the things I want
to bring up to you about this season was a

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specific date. And we haven't really done this in a
breakdown before, but this date stands out to me because
of how awkward it was. It's it's the wedding date
where all the women dressed up in wedding dresses. Was
that not? I mean, it's just reminding myself of that.
Was that not one of the wildest group dates that
you can imagine that was? I don't I wouldn't like it,

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I don't think, because I'd be like, I only want
to wear a wedding dress the day I get married
and or you know, the day that I'm trying on
wedding dresses to be with the guy that I know
I'm gonna be with, not when there's still twenty other
women in the running. Don't they say it's like bad
luck to try on a wedding dress unless you actually
have like a rig on your finger. I'm pretty sure
that's that's a phrase out there. So that was super award.

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You know, it was also awkward about this season that
just stood out, and even before I watched the recap um,
remember how Raven talked about how she like hadn't experience
certain things sexually, and then they made it seem like
she experienced that in the Fantasy Suite. Yeah, with the monologue,

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they like did the like like monolgue with her like skipping. Yes,
so it looks like they pretended it was a fairy
tale or like that scene in Five Days of Summer
where he's like doing the Hall of Notes dance. Yeah,
so that was awkward, especially now that we know that
they didn't even have sex with the Fantasy Suite. Nick
has been very open that he only slept with Vanessa

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well the So again, there's another name that comes up
from this season, and you know, Raven Uh is somebody
that I'm a fan of, but I can't even remember
her on the show because I can only picture her
with Adam and I forgot that she got second, like
that she was literally in the running with Nick. I

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honestly just totally space out of my mind. It was
Vanessa Nick in my head, and then the rest of
these women went on to do other stuff. I completely
forgot that Raven was to runner up. Yeah, I think
it was. I think of Rachel and Vanessa being sort
of at the end, because I do think that Raven
and Adam are right cemented in my head together. But

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I do think that he's kept up a relationship a
friendship with Rachel that I associate Nick and Rachel together
and Vanessa. I mean I associate Nick and Rachel and
then Vanessa and and Nick. But summarize all of this,
there were some incredible people in this season. This was
a great season. Nick was a great lead. Uh, you know,

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this is kind of what I would call, uh. Nick
you know, was a villain of sorts in some way
or another. Uh. During Andy season, came back through Caitlin
season onto Paradise, and people were starting starting to ask, wait,
who is this Nick? I actually like him, and now
he becomes the Bachelor, And it felt like for the

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most part, people really enjoyed watching Nick as the Bachelor,
because one I think he was real to himself, and
two I think his cast of women were standouts. I mean,
I think there was a cast of women that really
made this season greet and it actually, in so many
ways became the Karine Show. Or it seemed like Karin

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was the lead for at least six weeks, because it
was like every single week she was the person everyone
was talking about. She was the first kind of quote
villain that like, well, you couldn't help but also enjoy watching.
You're like, man, I can't stand this girl, but at
the same time, she's so outrageous. I have to keep

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watching her. You didn't you you didn't even love to
hate her, you just kind of loved her. Yeah, and
now you just love Karine. She's been awesome to this podcast,
so we appreciate her. Well. It's another week of the
Go Nix season just aired. It's also into a new month.
It's now September. How crazy is that? But Ashley and

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I we'll be back once again with another episode of
the almost Famous podcast. Again, as mentioned earlier, make sure
you go back and listen to Andy Dorman's in depth.
She talks about Nick File quite a bit, but also
just talks about her life and who she is as
a person, and it was super super enjoyable to hear.
The biggest tease. If you guys aren't yet sold on
listening to Andy's episode, she reveals to us who if

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she had to go back and do it all again,
she would have chosen if she was with the Bachelor
at that is something to listen to. Hey, with that,
this has been Almost Famous podcast I've Been Been, I've
Been Ashley. Bye. Guys followed the Benn and Ashley I
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