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May 7, 2024 181 mins
HOORAY FOR TUESDAY!!!!! The Storms Were Kicking Ass Last Night, Don't Throw Salami, Don't Taint The Food, Listener E-Mails, To Tell The Truth, Crazy Bitches, & The MOst Disturbing MOvies Ever!!!
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nominating that vet obviously last night wascrazy, yeah, for a lot of
people. The latest is this wasan update from Washington County Emergency Management at
two forty five. There are powerlines down in Bartowsville, so you have

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to be careful if you commute upthere or you leave out of there to
come to Tulsa. Lines down aroundthe high school lines over Highway seventy five
in Bartowsville. The roof taking offthe Hampton end. Oh no, and
dude, the video footage, listen, don't stand out in a tornado.

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The video footage some clown ass standingout and he decides it's time to high
tail it inside when he sees anelectrical flash. Can be logging for me,
sees electrical flash and sees them guessingthe silhouette of a tornado and that

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apparently the wind going sideways and thetree losing all of its leaves were not
enough warning signed for him. Andso this video I'm sending you is of
inside the hotel and they are standingin the like the where you drop people

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off the overhang. Yeah, andthey're just like ge gear, Well,
it's Oklahoma. It's just a littlerain. It is not a little rain.
And they're standing there thinking it's awesome, and they see the electrical flash,
which has got to be I don'tknow, maybe ninety feet in front
of them, and they high tailit inside, jump over the counter and

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they're like, man, whoa whatwas that? It's a tornado. That
siren in the background right is thealert to that. And then this other
video that I'll send you guys,is of this family from Brazil that was
staying in the hotel and they're like, we in the tornado. I don't

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know why they're tying because they're Bresilian, but and they're just and then the
power goes out and then it soundslike who like the sound changes dramatically and
they're like, oh no, you'rea kiyaki ya kiyaki. Yeah, it's
terrifying. And the poor people inBarnstall half their town's gone. Yeah.

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And then I heard this great phraselast night on TV, A bunch of
luki lous we're going up there.Don't be a luki lou, not today.
They're not gonna get that damage fixedovernight. It's gonna take some time,
but they had to literally bury it. Basically, there was so much
chaos, so many storm chasers,so many lucky lous trying to see what
was going on in Barnstall. Theyhad to put a perimeter on the city

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to keep people out. Does itreally make sense to go out and be
a lucky loo when it's dark out, you know, and not as much
sense to stand outside and look ata tornado? Right, I get it.
If the sun's out here, youcan get an eyeball on it.
Wow, look at that. Allright, there's a funnel coming. Let's
get the hell out of here.At night time, you can't see nothing

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until lightning flashes, and then youget what we had in the first video.
You know, people freaking out andrunning back into the hotel right on
top of you. Yeah, thatit's almost too late. Yeah there.
I think they're extremely I think thosepeople are lucky. Oh absolutely it was.
When things are moving what ninety onehundred miles an hour, if not
more than that, you can't outrunthat. The unknown we have about tornado

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still is like insane, and soyou could easily get sucked out of that.
They could have just gotten sucked out. You cannot outrun, no,
not even in a car. No, no, no, no, no
no. And then apparently in theBarnstoll situation. My understanding, old folks
home got hit, but all thosepeople are okay. They got all those

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people out to safety. Red Crosseson the scene, created a shelter.
There is major gas leaks, sothey've had to shut off power to the
city. They are trying to manageall that. Another problem they're dealing with
this ground is so saturated. Vehiclesare showing up going around power lines and
getting stuck right creates a whole otherfactor they got to deal with. And

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that one person they have confirmed apparentlyone fatality up there, and I have
friends that live up that many friendsthat live up there connected in the city,
so it is it was scary knowingthat because where I know where they
live and it hit right where theylive, and we talked about it last

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week. It's when it you everything. That town was already struggling the best
they could, right, They're tryingto make it happen. People trying to
keep their you know, their smallbusiness going, and then this happens.
It just makes it even more difficult. Yeah, but there's insurance for that,
and I'm sure there's gonna be federalmoney that's involved to rebuild these towns.

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So it's not gonna be done overnight, right, and it's not gonna
be done within a year. Butat least there's some kind of hope that
these these towns like Barnsdall and theseother ones that got hit, you know,
they can rebuild. Some people willput a fifth wheel on their land
and wait and take the time,as Gimbee's saying, And then a lot

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of people won't. And so,yeah, you get insurance money, it
takes time. And then they go, well your house was twelve years old,
I'm twenty three years old, andwell yeah, right, because they
don't want to give out a money. Yeah, and so you're right there.
There probably will be some money,but that doesn't mean you'll get full
value. Right, That doesn't meanyour life will go back to normal anytime

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soon. You now have a newnormal. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
your life has changed a lot.But instead of just throwing hands in
the air saying eh, whatever,you know there is some kind of hope.
Right. I'm not saying there's nohope. I'm saying that a lot
of people will change venue. Right, he maybe they should, maybe they

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should short of more right, right, And we've had a lot of obviously.
So we talked about this yesterday,like weather fatigue and the amount of
tornadoes that we have gotten. Andmost people don't know this, but we
have not been a top state,top ten state for tornadoes for a while.

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Yeah, I could, I could. I could believe that. In
twenty shoot, twenty twenty two weranked seventeen seventeenth in tornadoes, in twenty
twenty one we ranked sixteenth, andin twenty twenty we ranked six sixteenth.
So last year we had seventy fourtotal tornadoes, fifty eight, the year
before that, sixty three, theyear before that, thirty nine the year

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before that. This year we arealready at fifty four. Wow. And
I don't know if that includes yesterday'sWhen you talk to someone that's never been
to Oklahoma and you tell them,oh, I'm from Oklahoma, like you
live in Tornado Alley, Well moviethe movies did that right, of course,
the number of times we've had overone hundred tornadoes in one year.
Twenty nineteen we had one hundred andforty four. Wow. Twenty fifteen we

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had one hundred. Notice the yearpay attention to the year. Differences that
start happening. So twenty nineteen wehad one hundred and forty four. Twenty
fifteen we had one hundred eleven,twenty eleven, we had one hundred.
Nineteen twenty ten, we had onehundred and three. Nineteen ninety nine we
had one hundred and forty five.Nineteen eighty two we had one hundred and
one. Then you have to goto nineteen fifty seven. That was for

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the one hundred over one hundred.No, we got a good thirty year
span, so it was there wassome big gaps, and then in the
last thirteen years we've had three overone hundred years, and this is two
hundred tornadoes, and we're already lookingthis year to have over one hundred.
Again that Mother Nature's just making up, making up for lost time. Man.

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Typically June is when we see aslowdown, but it is not uncommon
for tornadoes in August and September.Some of the biggest months in some of
the years were in those months fortornado operaks. So you can't just go,
wow, it's June, We're good. No, when the government controls
the weather anything undred percent or onehundred percent. It was last year we

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had one tornado in July. Idon't know in the state. Right,
we had two last year in October. We had five in January last year.
Wow, right, January. Wehad two in March this year,
and we had forty nine in April. Dam And this is three in May.

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There's no way that includes yesterday's number. I believe fourteen was the number
I saw in my darkness. It'sa lot of nats, yes, matter
how you look at it. Andwe're only seven days into May. And
according to the Simpsons, we'll seein F six in July. Right,
the first ever that is not actuallya scale exactly, would be so big,

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like is that an F five?No, it's bigger. We're gonna
call it six. I am Simpsonsare pretty accurate also, No, right,
well, there are older writers ortime travelers, man, that's how
they got all that information. Sowe'll see what happens. You imagine the
pressure that they're under of like oflike, well, we got to get
it right right now, we gottaget it right. Uh, Mother nature

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always wins. That's a Textcavent.Yeah, another one. I know it
doesn't make sense to you guys,as none of you are originally from here,
but tornado weather is beer and launchhair weather. We all grew up
with our dads raising garage doors andwatching the storm. Huh, I've lived
here twenty one, twenty three years. Yeah. Also, I grew up
in Iowa, which is also atornado country, and we did that too.

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But as I got older, Irealized how stupid it was. There
are a lot of things my daddid that they were dumb. All right,
Well it's just in your blood.Okay, Well your dad probably was
a racist too quickly. I'm justsaying, but you change over time.
Well, you're not from here.You don't understand. You've lived in Tulsa

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City your whole life. I don'tknow what you think that means, Like
you've got some special sewer water thingor I don't know how many years do
you have to live here before youcan say you're from here? Five?
I don't know. I felt likeas soon as I bought a pike pass,
i was an Oakie. It wasofficial. How does Texas? So?

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Yeah, you also had to geta license plate I don't understand,
and a driver's license that I thinkwould supersede the pike pass you made it.
I'm not originally from here, butI've been in Oklahoma since ninety three
I consider myself from Oklahoma. IfI go anywhere else and anybody asked me,
where are you from, well,I'm I'm from Oklahoma. Yeah.

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So yeah, five years is agood You know, you've been in one
spot for five years, you cansay you're from that spot. I've lived
here longer than anywhere else I've lived. I'm from here, Yeah, for
sure. That's the way I lookat. You got to. Wherever you've
lived the longest is where you're from. Same. I've lived here the longest.
I lived and grew up in Iowa. I lived there thirteen years.

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I've lived here twenty three. Right, I'm officially an Okie. Well you
aren't because you don't sit out inyour front yard and a driveway with launch
hairs, drink of beer watching tornaderscome through Corba, so many textans and
calm down, bro Uh okay,sure. I just think it's ridiculous when
people argue why you should stand outand look at a tornado. It's pretty

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insane. I never was one togo outside and look at that. I'll
go outside and look when it comesthrough, right, But I'm not gonna
sit there right with my popcorn andmy my bud light you know, and
watch the entire storm come rolling through. I'm like, oh, I look
at the sky. It looks prettynarly. Okay, I'm going back in.
And also, since I've lived here, the majority of the tornadoes happen

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in the dark. Yeah, soyou're not seeing anything anyway and away from
here right there. Yeah, there'san Indian folklore of that. There's a
reason why it avoids Tulsa. Really, I've never heard about this. Yeah,
I'm check into that. Yeah,because of the certain hills I forget
the name of them west of town. Okay, okay, Hey, either

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way, I've been here for awhile. I ain't seen anything yet.
Ran. It seems like it alwayshappens in the middle of nowhere downs Barnes
Doll you know, askol right,because it splits off right, So they
say it comes up to Turnpike andthen I'm not kidding, that's what they
say. I did my plate payand now I'm going north right play pay

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right now? Eight fifty the tornadosaid, right, it stops at the
toll booth. Is like, hmmm, I think I'm gonna get off here
and I'll just take the long waythrough. I feel like paying that much
well, our hearts go out tothe folks up in Barnstill and Bartlesvall and
anywhere along the way or some ofthese other communities that got hit and uh,
just take care of each other.Take a break and we'll be back

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Morning Show. In ninety seven fiveman ordered into anger management after throwing salam
at a woman. This happened backon New Year's Eve at a New Year's
Eve party in the Villages down inFlorida, where a villager named Patrick Thomas

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Heelig who is fifty seven years old, has been allowed to enter into a
pre trial intervention contract that could enablehim to escape prosecution on charges of battery
and resisting arrest if he lives upto the terms of the contract. According
to a document on file in SumterCounty Court, he must complete twelve hours

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of anger management and must have onlypeaceful contact with the woman he attacked.
The woman fled out of this NewYear's Eve party to a nearby home in
the village of Liberty Park after Patrickthrew a piece of salami at her and
struck her on the left cheek ofher face. According to the arrest report,

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he said he threw it at herto get her attention. Yes,
it will, and when deputies arrivedat the home, get this. I
don't know if these were remember thefilm Police Academy Citizens on patrol. I
don't know if these were the typeof police officers, or if they were
run A cops or what. Butdeputies attempted to place him into a patrol

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car, but Patrick, who standssix feet two inches tall and weighs two
hundred and forty pounds, complained hewas too large to fit in the vehicle,
so a larger Chevy Tahoe model squadcar was summoned to the scene,
but he continued to refuse to getin. He used his dead weight to

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attempt to prevent deputies from putting himinside the vehicle. Cops love that.
Oh yeah, yeah, so hewas belligerent and did not get put in
the vehicle. Apparently, well hedid eventually. Yeah, so he got
into some vehicle. So he's gotto dose some anger management. He looks

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like he likes biscuits and mustard andcan fix your lawnmower. But you said
something that was very interesting to meis that he has to uh, only
have peaceful contact with the woman heattacked. Don't all contacts start I mean
the majority of contacts start peaceful.Uh huh, yep, that's fair to

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say, Yeah, the majority ofthem. Hi, how are you your
stupid ditch? Right? Yeah,you could easily get feel like you could
skirt that. Why do they Whyis there any leniency in it? Shouldn't
it be zero right, zero tolerance? Yeah, zero contact, no nice
contact, right, I guess becausethey're living in a retirement home together.

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Yeah, you know, and there'sreally no other choice. I mean,
you could you could expel him fromthe retirement home. Right, So that's
one way to get around it.If a bunch of old people live in
one home, one house, they'renot relatives, but they live together,

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is that domestic violence? I guessit could be. I think it is,
right. Yeah, If you livein a living facility, it's all
one roof old people, is thatdomestic violence? Well, that's kind of
like living in an apartment, right, it's still under one roof essentially,

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there's just different rooms divided by wallsand doors and stuff. Yeah, so
I kind of look like an apartmentcomplex is like a strip mall, and
old folks living facility is like amall mall. Okay, yeah, all
right, full of mall malls,you know what I'm saying, Like a
mall. It's got a roof andeverything rather than exposed to the outdoor outdoor

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elements. Yeah, there are someapartments that are like that, where like
all the front doors for your apartmentsare in on the interior, you know,
not like your typical apartments, likea roof over everything. Yeah yeah,
yeah, And then you go insideand it's like here's fourteen B and
then fourteen C and then fourteen soWan and so forth and such as so
any steakhouse worker arrested for bodily fluidon food. This comes out of Kansas

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where there was this kid. He'stwenty one. His name's Jase Hansen,
and he was working at the HerefordHereford Hereford House steakhouse. Herford House,
Yeah, Herford House there in Kansas. And I guess starting in like from
the month to March to like April, for like a month that the kid
worked there, police had gotten overone hundred and thirty calls from people reporting

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symptoms of food poisoning. Sort of. It's like food poisoning is what they
say. They say symptoms akin tofood poisoning. Okay, they didn't specify
what kind of bodily fluids. Asa matter of fact, they did say
unspecified bodily fluids. They did andsay how he was contaminating it. I

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don't even know if there's any proofthat this kid contaminated the food. You're
coming to his defense. I'm notcoming to his defense. I'm just saying
we need more evidence before we throwthis kid under the jail for, you
know, tainting people's food with unspecifiedbodily fluids. Okay, it could have
just been under cooked food. Itcould have been a number of things.
It could have been just crap food, not crap bodily fluids, you know

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what I mean. Nonethless, Sothis kid's been arrested and he's supposed to
go to court later on. Heis still in jail. He's in there
for felony criminal threatening, and thesteakhouse says that they have took all the
measures to go through and thoroughly cleanand sanitize the kitchen after his arrest.

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The DA out there says that he'slikely facing more additional charges in the weeks
ahead. So this is a famousstake chain in Kansas City, Okay,
and kind of like Charleston's is kindof like a famous you know chain here,
Okay. And I'm sure they haveto have some sort of They're not

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just picking that guy, right,But you would think if you're gonna blast
this kid's story on the news andeverywhere worldwide, you would, I don't
know, say, there's been videoevidence, there's surveillance evidence of him tainting
the food. You know, therewere eyewitness reports of this kid tainting the

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food. You know, you don'thave to specify which bodily fluids he had
used. We can only imagine,but there needs to be at least in
my mind, there needs to besome kind of well, how do we
know this kid did it? TheFBI apparently has been involved in the investigation.
Wow, that got deep bro quid. Yeah, and that they had
received multiple reports from employees that therehad been an employee intentionally contaminating food.

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Okay, so where the article thatI got it from didn't mention all that
that makes sense if his coworkers aresnitching him out. I mean, if
his coworker you the right thing.If the co workers are tattling on him,
then yeah, that makes sense.You might want to add that into
the other stories then so we allknow, because the one that I read

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made the kids sound like like,you know, we're not one hundred percent
sure. You know, there wasno evidence that he did it. I
mean innocent until proven guilty, rightabsolutely, And they probably can't give away
too many details because of the Theywant to make sure he goes to jail
for a long time. Right,I used to go to jail for a
long time. Felony, bro felonythat's gonna follow him around. He won't
be able to vote he can't owna gun, he can't do this this,

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and this is gonna be hard forhim to get a job. All
Why because he rubbed some lettuce onhis tak Yeah exactly, But I mean,
I mean that's not bodily fluids.That's just you know, it's just
bottling. Oh yeah, yes,attorney, Yeah, I'm just saying that's
totally different. Woman whose husband diedwhile snorkeling sues doesn't believe he drowned.

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Visitors whose husband died while snorkeling offMaui, Hawaii, does not believe his
death was drowning, as she wastold Michigan Regi resident Patricia, I don't
believe you. Johnson is now suingthe Fairmont Kia Lane Resort, the Hawaii
Tourism Authority, and the Hawaii Visitorand Convention Bureau. Her sixty four year

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old husband, Ray Did died ofwhat was deemed an accidental drowning in February
of twenty twenty two. Johnson saysher husband was talking with friends who were
snorkeling with him, and was divingdown underwater. At one point, he
came up told his friends he washaving trouble breathing. Then collapsed and died.

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Johnson believes her husband actually died fromrapid onset pulmonary and edema. The
lawsuit says the Hawaii's Travel entity havefailed to educate the public about the condition,
also called rope causing an important publichealth concern. Now upon my research,
because you know I'm a dork,I went in and found it is

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about, in the most extreme cases, ten people a year that die in
the United States in scuba relating accidents, but in Hawaii, overwhelmingly, without
a shadow of doubt, the numberone cause of death in Hawaii is drowning,
especially people that are tourists, becauseyou go visit and you think it's
all fun and games, never beenin the ocean, have no idea what

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you're doing. You took a twominute primer class or whatever, and then
you have things like this happened.The part I don't understand is I thought
you had to have a scuba licensewith Scoob Steve. I thought you had
to have a scuba license to dothis. And if you have a scuba
license, I think you would beI would think that you would be educated

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on the effects of this. Well, isn't there a difference between scuba and
snorkeling. Sure, snorkeling is justthe thing you kind of get into the
surface. Scuba you go under,and that's what you need the license,
right exactly. And this lady's husbandwas just snorkeling from what you said in
the story. So he's not reallyscuba diving, he's snorkeling, and he
probably went under and and you know, panicked and sucked in a bunch of

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water and did drown. More onnow, it does say a visitor who
husband died while snorkling. That's whatthe article says, and then later says,
uh, yeah, says they weresnorkeling with him. Yeah, So
I don't know, I guess youand if you went down deep enough maybe
right right, you would get that. Yeah. I've never snorkeled a day

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in my life. I've never scubaeven either, But I feel like,
you know, because I know,like I've seen snorkels, right, I
guess I have half ass lee ina pool one time, but nothing quite
like this. But you gotta keepthe tube battle of water, maybe you
have to. That's snorkeling, andyou can go on with a lot of
people going with it, Yes,And you hold your breath for a certain

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then you can use that to blowthe air out and then you resurface back
up for a more Maybe maybe that'swhat he didn't. He just you know,
didn't reservice in time, and justthat could have been. And then
he is that he was on theboat, he was like talking to people
and then and then died. Sohe wasn't in the water when he died.
There, correct, Well, didhe really drown If you have water

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in your lungs, that's drowning,I guess, huh. Just like people
that die that vomit and don't areon their side, they drown on the
you're drowning. Yeah, I guessyou're right. I guess you're right.
But suing is feels like when someonedied, especially someone you love a lot,
and you feel like there's an injusticehappening. Absolutely, you're going to
sue everybody, just see what youcan. I don't think I've ever heard

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of a story of someone drowning thoughafter speaking and being coherent. Yeah,
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, she might have it.
She might have a case here.Well, but then the definition is
what's talking? Right? Was helike ye is that talking? Was he
making coherent sentences? Was he givena thesis on? Right? You hear

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he was talking and you're like,hey, how are you today? We
should go get some some Herford Housesteak after this. Yeah, right,
that's what you're here talking. Youthink that's what was happening. And they
were like chump chump, chumming around. But if he's like you're going he
was talking, right, which technicallyhe was, but yeah, not okay,

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not in a way that is perceived. All right, we got to
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(33:30):
one from Madison Square Garden. Brunsonpored in forty three points as the knixt
took a one to nothing series lead. The action continues tonight with a pair
of contests. The Boston Celtics willhost the Cleveland Cavaliers at six tonight on
TNT, while the Dallas Mavericks paya visit to our Oklahoma City thunder tonight

(33:52):
and the action is also on TNTand starts at eight thirty. Runson was
a stud last night. He isthey could win. He's playing ridiculous.
Yeah, forty three points. Iknow, that's like the second or third
game he's had in the playoff.Forty plus points. Pretty awesome. And
speaking of the Mavericks, they arerewarding their head coach with a new contract,

(34:15):
Dallas assigning Jason Kidd to a multiyear contract extension that will keep him
with the team long term. ESPNhad reports that Kidd was considered to be
a candidate for the vacant Los AngelesLakers head coaching job this offseason. The
fifty one year old is in themidst of his third season coaching Dallas and
has led the MAVs to a pairof fifty plus wins. Kid is combined

(34:37):
one forty and one oh six inhis time as head coach of the MAVs.
And Victor Wembanyama began his NBA careerwith an award winning season the San
Antonio Spurs Superstar Center was named theNBA's Rookie of the Year yesterday. Wembanyama
received all ninety nine first place votesand becomes the sixth unanimous Rookie of the

(35:00):
Year in league history, the firstoverall pick in last summer's draft. Average
twenty one point four points, tenpoint six rebounds, three point nine assists,
three point six blocks, and onepoint two steals through seventy one games
played when Benyama is also one ofthree finalists for the Defensive Player of the

(35:21):
Year award, alongside Minnesota's Rudy Gobertand Miami's bam A to Bayo. Listen
to this crew he's a part ofbecause he's the first unanimous winner in eight
seasons. So these are other unanimousRookie of the years Ralph Sampson from eighty
four, David Robinson ninety, BlakeGriffin, Damian Lillard, and Karl Anthony

(35:45):
Town. So he's in some prettyamazing company. Oh yeah, yeah,
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So the Some of the first photosare coming in from the damage up
in Barnstall I just sent you guystoo of the photos so you could see
them. Obviously, they're still doingsearch and rescue for people, and they
don't want people going up there.A lot emergency personnel take care of everything,
and the footages that I'm seeing ispretty intense. Yeah. Yeah,

(37:37):
it looks to be quite devastating.I mean trees with nothing on them,
down to the big branches. Yeah. I was sitting I was sitting on
the garage smoking yesterday, right beforebedtime, like eight o'clock or whatever,
and I knew that these storms werecoming through, right keep an eye on

(37:59):
the weather. I'm like, allright, it's gonna be about ten o'clock
before it hits us, Okay.And I'm sitting there and I've got a
garage full of bikes, and I'mlike, well, how can cause I
was hearing stuff like grapefruit size hailstuff like that. I'm like, grapefruit
size on, that's a big bitright there. Oh yeah, yeah,
no, that'll do some damage toa car. And listen, my car
isn't exactly the greatest, but Iwould like to be able to if I

(38:21):
need to drive it to work withoutholes in my windshield, you know,
or windows still intact. So I'mlooking around, I'm like, God,
dang, how can I jenga thisor tetris this garage to get at least
get my car inside as well andstill be able to shut the door.
I came to the conclusion that thereis no way at all whatsoever, and

(38:42):
if the storms came through and tookmy car away or at least beat the
holy hell out of it, thereis absolutely nothing that I could do about
it at all. Well, likeyou said to me the other day,
uh more hail damage right on yourcar? Right, yeah, bartles Will.
Public schools are closed today. They'renot doing virtual or anything because the
power outages that the city is facing. And just you know, keep those

(39:07):
people in the thoughts and prayers andCamot. He's probably some of the only
sound they're getting from first responders carsor their cars, or visitors cars or
whoever that's helping them. And sowe're going to try and keep going forward,
and we may talk to some peopleabout it, just depends on how
that stuff plays out. But Ihave the most disturbing movies people have ever

(39:32):
watched. So think of a moviefor you that's one of the most disturbing
movies you've ever watched. I gotit right, you're already, Oh go,
Human Centipede. That has got tobe by far the most disturbing,
all three of them, one,two, and three the most disturbing movies
I've ever watched in my life.Okay, Lindsay Kids was very disturbing for

(39:55):
me. I didn't find that movieto disturbing. It was, you know,
very lifelike, of course. Buton this list, Threads is on
here from movie from nineteen eighty four. It's the effects of a nuclear holocaust
taking place in England and then thelong term effects and people with like part

(40:20):
of their face burned off and stufflike that. I've never seen this movie,
being it from nineteen eighty four,there's a good chance I'm not gonna
see it. Well, you canwatch it on to Be for free.
Sure, I know what I'm doingwhen I get home. Another one on
this list of most disturbing movies amovie called Come and See and It's Not

(40:42):
nine. And this is about ananti war film that takes place in Soviet
anti era, the Soviet War era, and it's got some Nazi atrocities that
have happen to it. It wasbanned in some places because it's seen as

(41:05):
too depressing. Yeah, I thinkabout on that one that doesn't get that
one you're not gonna watch on twobe hung No well one it's on Amazon
Prime. But still like the coverit has like a soldier and it's got
a gun to this kid's head.Yeah, and I'm like, and the
fact that you said it was depressing, you know, it's kind of what

(41:28):
slows me down from it. Imean, the Notebook's depressing. I have
never saw that. Marley and Meis depressing. Never watch that one either.
I saw a great meme yesterday.It was like the number of you
people that won't watch a dog moviethat dies in it because it's too sad.
But you'll sit there and do cerealcrime podcasts where people kill like twenty
seven people. It's what puts usto sleep at night. The other one

(41:52):
that is on this is a moviecalled Hereditary. Yeah, yeah, do
you know this movie? Yes?Okay, that is the one where Collette
what's her name something, Collette,Tony Collette. Yes, she is the
mom, and she moves back intoher dead mom's house and she's got her

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kids. The spoiler alert, herdaughter gets beheaded while her son is driving
a car. It is the mostdisturbing part of that movie. That's on
Max. That looks like a goodone to want. The matriarch of the
grand family passes away. Her daughterand grandchildren begin to unravel cryptic and incredibly
terrifying secrets about their ancestry, tryingto outrun the sinister fate they have inherited.

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Wow. Uh tusk, dude,that one's a weird one. Weird
movie is not the one where it'sdisturbing, I don't know, but weird
for sure. Justin long he cankeep his life going. He enters into
the Canadian wilderness to interview an oldman who has an extraordinary, extraordinary past,

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and the American learns the man hasa dark secret involving a walrus.
I couldn't get too far into it. I was like, this movie,
that one in the Lobster is anotherweird ass movie. I thought The Lobster
was very creative and very dorky andartsy. I'm not saying it's a great

(43:22):
movie, right, I'm just sayingit was. It was just an artsy,
weird it's very on guard type ofmovie. Yeah, I watched it
the first time. I was like, I cannot get into this at all.
And then I watched it a secondtime just to force myself all the
way through it, and I'm like, okay, yeah, that was a
waste of my time, very strangemovie. And this one here, let's
ask I couldn't. I couldn't getpast it, so I didn't watch the

(43:45):
whole thing. And if you're aJustin Long fan, Haley, Joel Osmond's
in it as well, Yeah,fat jit Hailey. I believe Martyrs is
on this list. Is the mostone of the most disturbing movies. This
is a two thousand and eight movie. Two young women who are both victims
of abuse as children embark on abloody quest for revenge, only to find

(44:05):
themselves plunged into a living hell ofdepravity. Pravity. Okay, that's on
two B two Gimpei. Absolutely,it's gonna be a two be kind of
day. Another one on this listDear Zachary, a letter to a son
about his father. In twenty one, twenty eight year old doctor Andrew Bagbee

(44:25):
is found dead in a park inPennsylvania. He had been shot by his
ex girlfriend, who then fled toCanada, where she was able to walk
free. On bail, pregnant withAndrew's child, Andrew's enraged parents campaign to
gain custody of the child and convicttheir son's killer. Filmmaker Kirk Canoe pairs
the story with home movies and interviewsabout who's those who knew Andrew hoping to

(44:51):
give his best friend's son an opportunityto discover who his dad was. Okay,
sounds riveting. That's also on Tooby. Yeah, won't be watching that.
I'm surprised that this one number seven, Requiem for a Dream. It's
a bizarre movie. Yeah. Youthink it's the dead baby scene that made
it so disturbing. Yeah. Yeah, that's the only thing that I can

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think of. I mean, becausethey're all just heroin addicts or whatnots,
but that dead baby scene was prettydisturbing. Christopher McDonald, Marlon Wayans,
Jared Leto, Jennifer Connelly. It'sgot a good cast. Yeah, that's
a great movie. I think itwas fantastic. This movie's pretty awesome and
it is pretty disturbing. There's somethingwrong with Aunt Diane. So this is

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on HBO Max and this is adocumentary about a crash that happened in two
thousand and nine, and it profilesDiane Schuler, who caused the fatal accident,
and through interviews with her family membersand friends and attempts to piece together
the actions on that day of theaccident to determine what took place. They

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interview the sister in law and theyare convinced the toxicology report showing her high
level of alcohol and THC was inaccurateor that she did not knowingly consume those
intoxicants. It's basically a story abouta woman who hid her addiction, got
you and caused this massive accident becauseof it, people and trusting their kids

(46:22):
with her. Right. Yeah,I think I'm out on that one just
because it's documentary, because you,oh, you don't like documentaries. It's
a huge documentary. I like likedocumentaries, music, documentary, stuff like
that, but like these type ofdocumentaries. You don't like watching documentaries about
how heinous people can be. That'swhy I don't get into the true rust.
You watch The Centipede Human Centipede sThe Poughkeepsie Tapes is on this as

(46:47):
some of the most disturbing movies.Homicide investigator in New York finds hundreds of
videotapes of torture, murder, anddismemberment, showcasing a serial killer's work over
a decade. It's from two thousandand nine, and that's on Pluto and
to Be and Sling and Prime andYouTube TV. It's just trying to get

(47:08):
it out there. Hotel Hotel Rwandais on here, which I was kind
of shocked by. Hotel Rwanda isan amazing movie. Don Cheetah Cheto is
on there. This guy manages asa hotel uh and he lives a happy
life with his wife and their children. But when the military forces initiates a

(47:30):
campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Tutsiminority, he's compelled to allow refugees to
take shelter in his hotel. Gota text message here, says letters to
zach reeffed me up. When itwas over, I just sat there and
stared into space, contemplating life.Wow. Well, now I kind of
want to watch it. Now you'rein for you want to see what the

(47:52):
data. I don't want to seewhat it's about. The thing about those
type of movies, especially the documentaries, because they're basing it off truth right
right, That was a key sentence. They're basing it off truth right right,
right, doesn't mean it's accurate,right, And the that is you
take a piece of it and putit in your life, you apply your

(48:15):
life to it, and then youstart thinking about your life and how maybe
easily it could have happened to you, or could happen to somebody loved or
things like that. Okay, anothermovie Midsommer and I believe I watched this
movie. Yes, and this moviecame out Florence pel It's a little weird
one, yes, and a coupletravels to Sweden to visit their friend's rural

(48:37):
hometown for its fabled Midsummer festival.But when it begins as a nice little
retreat, quickly devotes into an increasinglyviolent and bizarre competition at the hands of
a pagan cult. Cannibalism is thetopic, djuur of that that definitely belongs
on this list of disturbing movies.It was weird, I wouldn't put it

(48:58):
so like. I think you madea great and if human Centipede is being
disturbing, okay, and it is, that movie is disturbing, right,
This isn't that This would be morealong the lines of the lobster tusk.
Maybe no, I think this ismore like there are people like this,
the truth, true statements, humancentipede. There may be not really,
there's a chance this is more realistic. There are people like this, there

(49:22):
are groups like this. Yeah,yeah, yeah, very bizarre movie work
to watch. You should at leastcheck it out one time. I think
it is artsy and independent though.Two point yeah, for sure. Schindler's
List as a disturbing movie. Okay, that's disturbing because again it's based off
truth. So you go with,oh my gosh, this is an atrocity

(49:43):
and just pick up any book aboutAshovitz, right, And if you walk
away going that was highly entertaining ina good way, then you need your
head checked. Yeah, just don'tget caught making out during that movie.
You don't never catch the end ofit Seinfeld episode making out, Yes,
Darren Schindler's List, this movie whichhas a ton of actors in it that

(50:07):
are big actors, and I sawbecause of radio station partnership we did with
it, and it was a moviewith with Christian Slater, Jon Favreau,
Jeremy Piven, Jeannie tripple Horn,Cameron Diaz, Genie's husband Leland Uh And
that is a movie called Very BadThings, where these guys John Favreau goes

(50:31):
to Vegas for a bachelor party andone of his buddies is having sex with
a stripper and they're having sex inthe bathroom and pops her head on the
back of a hook, and theydecide, like all smart men do,
we'll just cover up the murder.Of course. Yes, one that just

(50:52):
kind of hit me. I don'tknow if it's on this list or not.
The Babysitters, Yeah, for thosewho don't know, that's not on
this list. That is a movieabout some high school girls who babysit in
the neighborhood or the community, butalso decide they're going to start being escorts
or prostitutes to the dads, andthe dads pay money, and so when

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they drive the young girls home afterbabysitting, they then bang the girls and
then it all culminates to a pointwhere they go to one of the guys's
cabins with all of the girls andthere's drugs and alcohol, and one of
the girls goes because they need anextra girl, and she isn't having a
good time, but they're encouraging herto do it and peer pressing her,

(51:37):
and at one point where I turnedit off was mommy, mommy, I
just want my mommy. Yeah,yeah, it's disturbing. Moving on to
me, that's to me, that'smore disturbing than Requiem for a Dream or
midst for Uh. Probably, Iwould even say more disturbing than The Human

(52:00):
Centipede, you know, just becauseof that one, the whole thing.
Honestly, with that one scene,You're absolutely right. That's that's the point
where I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, we're good. We don'tneed to be watching this anymore.
Another one on this list got acouple more bad bad I'm sorry, bad
boy Bubby. What so? Thisis a movie from two thousand and five.

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After being kept prisoner in his homefor thirty five years, a man
accidentally kills his parents and escapes intothe real world. Is there a remake
of it? I don't know,because this one says nineteen ninety three.
That's why I ask if there wasremake of it. But yeah, the
cover looks yeah, nineteen nine three. You're right, that guy looks crazy.

(52:43):
Yeah, okay, it's on twoby two. Eh, there's a
theme, yeah, there is.Then the last one on this list is
Foreshore. The weirdest movie I haveever seen, and that is Mother with
Jennifer Lawrence, jaby Ard bardein EdHarris Shelfifer. I mean there are some
stars. Kristin wigg Is in it. There are some stars in this movie.

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And it is a bizarre movie abouta young woman who spends her days
renovating a house she lives in withher husband in the countryside. When a
stranger knocks on the door one night, he becomes an unexpected guest in their
home, and later his wife andtwo children also arrived to make themselves at
home. Terra soon strikes when thewife tries to figure out why her husband

(53:29):
is so seemingly friendly and accommodating toeveryone but her, And at one point
when they eat a baby, Iturned it off. Yikes. Yeah,
I still have not seen that becauseof that. Yeah, that's the one
you're talking like. They take thatbaby and then pass it around and then
rip it to pieces. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
I have yet to watch this,but I mind some texts coming in.

(53:52):
I love Clockwork Orange, Okay,I could, but I didn't think it
was then disturbing, a little weird, maybe weird disturbing, like Shining is
disturbing, right, like it Sometimeswhen you watch a movie, I feel
like I'm being pulled into the storyand I know it's a story. And
then sometimes I watch him and Igo, this feels real, So you
know what I'm saying. So forme, when I watch the Shining Clockwork

(54:15):
Orange Ye, any Stanley Kubrick movie, I'm like, this is really great
storytelling. Yeah, he was aweird dude. Another text teeth. Wow,
disturbing, totally disturbing. Okay,Saltburn, Yeah, this movie got
a lot of hype. Barry Keyoginor whatever. He's an awesome actor.
Carry Mulligan's in it, and Barryis enthralled with this guy he meets at

(54:38):
school. He's a dork, kindof an introvert, and he is trying
to just make friends and he goesto this place called Saltburn, which is
an estate, and they kind ofparty all summer. But he really is
infatuated with this guy to be liked, but also infatuated with a girl and
a series of bizarre things. Themost bizarre is he watches a man pleasure

(55:04):
himself in a bathtub and then whenhe leaves, Yeah, huh. Yep,
you only need to finish funny games. You see funny Games with the
Naomi Watts and Tim Roth. They'remarried couple that go to their summer destination
cottage and then uh, two guysbreak into their home. They seem to

(55:25):
be pleasant, but they're armed,and then they terrorize and torture that they're
this family and they give him tillthe next day to survive. That one
was pretty disturbing. I was disturbing. There's another one with very similar movie
with the uh, the wrestler JohnButton, and he is like, plays

(55:53):
a nice guy and knock on theknock at the cabin. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, but I didn'tfind it disturbing. No, uh huh.
That was an m Night Shyamalan filmfrom last year. I believe,
Okay. I don't typically go stayin cabins where it's the only cabin around
there's nothing else. Yeah, there'sjust Airbnb. Ever. Yeah, there's

(56:15):
a new James McAvoy movie coming out, Speak No Evil, coming out this
summer, and it's a remake ofa Danish film of the same name.
But it looks really disturbing. Butwe don't know if it's disturbing or not
right the preview, the trailer lookspretty disturbing. Those old McAvoy is he's

(56:35):
split if you know that he's beenin other movies, but nothing like the
character he was and split. Sothere you go, disturbing movies. We're
gonna take a break and we'll beback. Tulsa's Morning Show continues next with
a Big Man Morning Show on Tulsa'srock station ninety seven. Good morning,

(57:05):
It's the Big Mad Morning Show.Nine one eight four six, oh KMOD.
Let's play a game because we've hadtickets to see Hardy Who's gonna be
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phones. Good morning, you're onthe air. What is your name,

(57:49):
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here we go. This song isa rap song from the early two

(58:10):
thousands about having sex and denying it. U No. In the early two
thousands, if I accuse you ofa crime that you didn't commit, you

(58:34):
would say accuse, you would saythe response. If I said you did
this, you would say no,I didn't. Another way to say that
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(59:00):
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(59:25):
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Extreme of bad luck. Good morning, you're on the air. What is
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to get You just have to getone. And if you get one,
you will win. But as ourfriend Marcus just showed, that is easier

(01:00:10):
said than done. All right,I won't choke. Sixty seconds around the
clock. You and GIMPI are youready? Do it? All right?
Brian? Here we go. Uh, okay. Bobby Brown's wife drowned in
a tub. What was her name? Oh? This is a song.

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Yes, she was a nineties icon. It was originally a Dolly Parton song.
People think it's a love song,but it's a breakup song. Go
ahead and pass on that already saidlove? Yeah, all right, is
so good. I only need one. I've got plenty of time here.
This is an eighties guy. Andif you're hooked on drugs, you would

(01:00:52):
say, I am what on drugs? Yes? What is the opposite of
hate? Love? I take thelove? There you go. Ah.
This is a girl group from themid nineties. And uh, this is
about the liquid that goes over amountain. He said it. It just

(01:01:13):
clip clipped out on us. Youwant to say it again, Brian,
it's funun there you go. Yeah, what's the opposite of a boys?
Girls? And this is a goahead. The girls just want to have
fun. Yeah, man, firstBlake, time, time time. Congratulations,

(01:01:36):
Brian, you're getting those tickets tosee Hardy May thirtieth at the Walmart
Amphitheat hang on the line, Okay, I can do that, little suspect.
He intentionally passed and said the wordto move on. I didn't mean
too, Honestly, I really didn't. I didn't do it intentionally. That's
two weeks in a row. You'vedone that, the saying at least I
caught this one before she goes,that's what you guys settled down over there,

(01:02:01):
all right? The one that that'snot me, the one that okay
okay, okay, okay okay,the only one that he ever looked at.
This is the one that you isThis the one he started with that
he messed up. What order arewe doing? What are we doing?

(01:02:22):
Uh? Yeah? This is oneof her more famous songs. Uh.
There's a big crescendo that happens,and then there's silence, and then she
says the title of this song,starting with the word and yeah, if
you can't get Whitney Houston, Idon't know how. I mean, I

(01:02:43):
guess it's possible if you don't wentin Houston songs besides the Bodyguard soundtrack again
as a man, I don't knowif he's gonna know that true. I
will always love you, Yeah,and then the one and he had trouble.
Yeah. This song is a femaleanthem song about doing what you can

(01:03:07):
to persevere through life. Cake dida cover of this song Glory Gainer I
will survive. At first I wasafraid, then I was petrified and terrified
whatever. And then the one thatI could not get. Yeah. This
is This song came out in nineteenninety nine and it was from a reggae

(01:03:28):
artist and it was about this dudegetting caught cheating and it was his excuse
to his old lady, it's better, Yeah, all right. The record
now puts me in the lead withseven, keeps Lindsay with six keeps you
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Let's see what Gimpi has in hisfour x four well coin. It says
here that the FAA opens new probeinto Boeing seven eighty seven jets. The

(01:04:35):
agency said Boeing informed it last monththat employees may not have completed required inspections
on the plane. The investigation willlook to determine if the inspections happened and
whether company employees may have falsil fightercraft records. Boeing will conduct inspections on

(01:04:55):
seven eighty seven jets that are stillin production process, while also coming up
with the plan for planes already inservice. Trump says that the constitutions more
important than jail time. He saysthat he'll sacrifice and go to jail any
day. Speaking after trial recessed yesterday, he ripped the judge who threatened him
with jail for again breaking his orderwhen he talked about witnesses in the case.

(01:05:23):
Trump blasted the threat of jail,saying I'll do that sacrifice any day,
adding that the constitutions more important.He said the prosecution told the judge
that they need two to three moreweeks to make their case. Trump said
that it should have already ended,and his hush money criminal trial is politically

(01:05:44):
motivated. Maybe it is, Idon't know. But the part that I
think is funny is that he wantsto go to jail. He wants that
judge to put him in jail.Right, it'll just raise his polls even
more. I don't know if itraises polls, but they'll definitely use it
as a money making opportunity for thiscampaign for sure. Right, And he
looks like a martyr, right right? What else we got here? Israel

(01:06:04):
begins their Rafa offensive. Israel DefenseForces say the IDF is currently conducting targeted
strikes against terror targets in eastern Rafaand southern Gaza. Earlier, the White
House confirmed mass has agreed to aproposed ceasefire. National Security Council spokesman John

(01:06:25):
Kirby told reporters that US officials arereviewing the response from the militants group and
are discussing it with regional partners.And lastly, here TPS launches Oklahoma's first
girls high school flag football league withthe support of NFL star Donald Drivers Company,

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driven Elite LLC, and in conjunctionwith the NFL Flag Cleats for Kids
and Franklin Sports. TPS announced theleague driven NFL flag marks a historic moment
in girls high school flas like football. TPS said the season is kicking off
in October with ten teams, includingTPS high school students and Bishop Kelly High

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School. Nineteen colleges and universities currentlyoffer scholarships for girls flag football. Huh,
that's what I thought. How aboutthat? Now? I know there's
girls football teams because the when wedid the pub crawl, there was a
girls football team. Yeah, they'reawesome people. That's like a recreational league
sort of thing. And then nowI think there's a professional women's league and

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I don't know, I don't know. I have to check, and I
think there's a Tulsa team. ButI think that's cool that they're offering it,
you know, to the students.Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah,
good for them. Why do yousteal Lindsay sports? Enough? A
better to do with my life.The Bengals star quarterback is finally able to

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throw again. The team held voluntaryworkouts on Monday, and Joe Burrow was
seen in uniform and participated in passingdrills. The former pro bowler is recovering
from season ending rist surgery after sufferingthe injury back in November. Burrow admitted
he wouldn't be throwing until OTA's normally, but he's excited about getting back to
one hundred percent. The LSU productis heading into his fifth season after being

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selected first overall in the twenty twentydraft, and the Panthers are adding to
their backfield. Carolina has agreed toa contract with veteran running back Rashad Penny.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed. The Panthers addition of Penny reunites
him with head coach Dave Canally's fromtheir days with the Seattle Seahawks. Penny's

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best season came with the Seahawks intwenty twenty one, when coach Dave was
the passing game coordinator. He carriedthe ball one hundred and nineteen times for
seven hundred and forty nine yards andsix touchdowns. The twenty eight year old
played last season for the Philadelphia Eagles, but appeared in just three games and
rushed a less even times for thirtythree yards. And that's your balls to

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at chmody dot com. We readit on the air. Jibe. He's
gonna love this one. All right. My wife and I have recently adopted
a fur baby from rescue. She'svery lovable, but very needy and wants
constant attention from us. I lovethe dog as well. We have had

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her in our life since late February, but I've noticed that within the last
two months at least, that furbaby, who's a three year old Labrador
Great Pyrenees mix, Oh jeez,is taking a whole lot of attention away
from my wife and I getting intimatewith each other or having sex frequently.
Actually, the fur baby is interferingwith our regular love making routines morning sex.

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We rarely have that in anymore.I enjoy having sex and love making
with my wife in the morning,but now it's becoming a major all caps
issue within our marriage. Any suggestionson how to handle a needy dog a
WG or og. That's funny.That is so funny that this dog has

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become such an issue to where it'slike interrupting their sensual time. How bad
is your sex that she would ratherhang out with a dog get kisses from
a dog than you. Yeah,I'm looking up pictures of the Labrador Great
Pyrenees mixes. What a beautiful dogthey are, so you don't blame her

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so shiny. Yeah yeah, dogs, yes they are. They are.
Labradors are big dogs. You putthe Pyrenees in it, and you're like,
okay, yeah, I can imaginethe introduction of anything new in a
relationship can take away from things,absolutely, But what's the difference between this

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and kids minus you know, kidscan talk and kind of take care of
themselves and blah blah blah blah blahall that stuff. There's interruptions. It
happens, you know, whether it'sa cold nose on the bottom of your
foot or a tiny little hand grabbinga big toe. It's welcome to life.
Yeah right. I can only assumethey made the mistake of letting the

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dogs sleep with them. I didn'teven think about that, but that would
make sense, you know. Soyou're up in my bed exactly. Yeah,
what are you doing in there?Uh uh huh? I smell something
that doesn't seem right. They gottawatch you just sit here on the other
the bed, just steering, stearing. It's always fascinating to me when you

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know couples allowed dogs in their bed, because there's already a cliche argument and
in a lot of times, thecliche is true that you're fighting over space
in the bed. Why introduce athird right, right, right, even
when you have children sleeping in thebed with the young children, babies whatever,
you know, always that complaint.This kid sleeps sideways, you know,

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And I get six inches of aking size bed should be enough.
Yeah, right, it should be, but it's not. Uh, this
happened last night. My youngest gotyou know, got scared because of the
thunder, and I let her getin bed with us. But I have
a time limit, right, andI'm not watching the clock time limit.
But after a while like, okay, you can go back to your bed

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now, yeah, because I don'twant them getting used to it, right,
And my daughter does that. Sheis a arm flopper right on your
face, pushing against you in theback, like one hundred percent, just
all over the place. Yes,she would. She thinks beds or you're
supposed to lay vertical, right,right, and so she uh yeah,

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So once the thunder died down,I picked her ass up and took her
right back to her room because Idon't want to get used to I don't
want that. That's I have thisthing that I think our bedroom is a
sacred place, and I just meanthat in the literal sense, right,
And I don't want there like Idon't like my kids in my room.
Right. This isn't a hangout spot, right, I'm right there with you,

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bro, always had that. Youknow, there is nothing, nothing
in this room that you need atall, whatsoever, nothing that concerns you.
You just might as well just goahead and stay all out. Now
if they come in because we're gettingready or to talk to us, obviously,
that's not a big deal. Yeah, but I have a two thousand
square foot home. I think it'sokay if I have this room to myself,

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exactly, because if you don't,what other room do you have?
The bathroom? And even then it'snot that safe that I get bitched out
if I'm in too long, huhuh huh, throwing a party like welcome
home every time I leave it.Stop screws. That's why dudes have the
man caves and the you know,hang out in the garage all the time,
because that's the only space we haveto that that's our own, you

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know, to get away from everything. Text came in. It's called a
doorknob. Shut the bedroom door,goober, Coober, put the damn dog
outside. Problem solved. I don'tlove this answer. I don't love when
people's answer for a dog is tojust put it outside, and then they
leave it outside because your dog isnow barking and annoying the whole neighborhood.

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Right now, I have to dealwith a choice you made. So this
text here makes very good sense.Try crate training. Time for crate training.
My dogs are create trained, allthree of them, you know,
and it works. It works.I put him in there, they cool,
they they don't they don't howl,they don't hoot, they don't holler,

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they don't sit there and dig getthe goddamn door, you know,
trying to get out or nothing.It's a little bit of work and it
takes time. It's just kind oflike you know, anything else when you're
training something, whether you're training akid or you know, a pet,
it takes some time. But oncethey figured out, man, you can't
go wrong. Alls I gotta dois say hey, get in, and

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all three of them nowhere to go. Wow. And that's it. And
chances are isn't it if it's arescue, wouldn't it already be great trained?
Possibly not necessarily not necessarily rescue meansit was in not a great situation.
Okay, usually yeah, uh,you got to get in front of
that great training in the beginning forsure, for sure. And yes and

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no with that one. Because whenI when I got when I got my
first great Dane, he was alreadytwo years old and was not great trained.
Okay, he was just he tookup the entire backyard. But in
my backyard, we don't have afence, right, I've got a tree
line, and behind that tree lineis a crick and they can go back

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there all they want or whatever,you know, So I I it sucks
trying to take this big, massiveass dog and shove him into this crate
just so he knows this is wherehe's supposed to go. But once again
again, once you figured it out, it ain't nothing. How does one
coerce a great day? Yeah,you don't you force, there's no coersion

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at all. What's time? Howdo you force? Like grab on each
side of the crate and just kindof use your hips, you grab a
collar, and you grab his assand you shove him in there as gently
as you can because there, ofcourse they're gonna be legs out front,
all four of them. They don'twant it. They don't know what the
hell's going on. But once youget him in there, you know,

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and at least that's how I didit. Anyway. You get him in
there, and he all right,everything's cool, you're good, you're good.
You talk nice to him, andthen you shut the door and latch
it. And there's a little bitof bitch in there, for sure.
But it at least for mine,it didn't. It didn't seem like it
took that much. Now, thetax that came in. We allow dogs
in our bed when we want sex. We just kicked them out and kicked

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the door. Not that hard,uh, to be fair, the email
doesn't say anything about they sleep inthe bed, so we don't know why.
UH got a pound dog and nowno more pound town. Dump that
bitch and accept your new life asa single dog owner. It's good,

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right, because she's gonna, youknow, go be a single woman,
right. She don't want to howto deal with no dog. And you
know, some people do a thinglike when they date, like they dig
ti like the dog takes time atone person's house and the other day to
do like a like a custody thingwith the dog. That's insane. Co

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ownership. Hell no, oh,you're just confusing the dog. It doesn't
care. It'll run to the personwith the most treats. It doesn't care.
Bedroom dog, keeps dog out ofbedroom. Don't leave it outside and
be neglectful. Another good argument,right right, don't neglect it just so

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you can get some seven secs sorry, three seconds of pleasure. Come on,
it's seven seconds. Yeah, Iwas gonna dog and stay outside for
seven seconds. Yeah, how longdoes it really take you? I mean
the dog's got to go to thebathroom outside sometime, right, exactly exactly,
So while you let the dog out, if you've got a nice fenced
in yard or whatever, and youcan do that, send the dog outside,

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go knock the bottom out of itreal quick, and I come back
and let the dog back in prettyseple stuff. Just make sure you put
your pants on. What if itwas a scenario where he just takes the
dog out and doesn't tell her that'sgotta get her going ready to as get
be put to knock the bottom outright? What if they live in a

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studio apartment another great argument. Yeah, absolutely, that's where great training comes.
Into play. You know, yeah, the greate training you got.
The dog's got its own little homenow inside your home. I find it
hard to believe that a rescue groupwould have let them adopt a dog that

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size if they were living in astudio apartment. Is that a hard and
fast rule, to be honest withyou, I don't know. I honestly
think as long as you have ahome for the dog and you were able
to take it out, you know, make sure it gets it's it's outside
time, you're good to go.I don't think all rescues do quote unquote
interviews to adopt a forty dollars doc. I don't know. I think they.

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I mean they they like to know. I think some do. Yeah,
I think some do. Some do, yeah, right, But I
don't think it's a hard and fastrule. And some people think getting it
from the pound is a rescue.Also, we don't know what kind of
rescue this is. Was it froma pound? Was it from a friend
you know who couldn't handle it,and they're like, well I'll take it,
and then they just call it arescue. We don't know that.

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No, the text sounds like shewasn't interested in the first place, the
dog's an excuse, here's a longwooded one. I second well Gimpe said
about great training, create training ismy opinion, an absolute must. It
helps with safety, and it helpswith this very situation. If you're gonna
allow you dogs in your bed,then the consequences of that. Some people
don't even let their kids in theirbed, but they let the dogs in

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to train your children in theory,Having worked with a lot of neurotic dogs
and owners alike, I found theeasiest way to create train any animal and
save you some sanity is to startfeeding the animal in the crate and make
sure that it's comfortable and welcoming,and that they usually end up choosing on
their own to hang out there.Right Like I put up a sign that
says dogs live here, and Iput like a little TV, I mean

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comfort, put some stuff down forthat's how I did. Mine was feeding
time was always like I didn't createput make them sleep in the crate or
put them in the crate to leaveuntil they started going in on their own.
And so all meal times were inthere. Any treat you had to
be in your crate for okay.And then once they were going there on
their own to hang out. ThenI would do that when we leave,

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slam the door shut and run off. But I didn't have like a Marmaduke
situation, like right, give mesounds like they need to give Christy know
him a call. That's someone weshould know who it is. I don't
know. That's something an E showabout dogs. Oh no, the South
Dakota. Yeah, the politicians thedog, the dog, right, and

(01:22:42):
then we should shoot Biden's dog.I'm like, damn, she's all in
huh, yeah, that's a wholeother thing about that whole thing about her
shooting a dog that doesn't behave orsomething like that. And you're like,
one, it's weird. I thinkit's weird to shoot a dog. I
think it's weird. I just thinkit is. I know some people that's
the lifestyle too. It's weird tobe all in on it and brag about

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it as a major, you know, political figure. Yeah, it's one
thing if it's just you know,Ted from down the street or whatever.
Yeah, you know, works ina machine shop. But this is the
governor of a state. Yeah,potential vice president Canada. Like, listen,
we want all the wars. Dowhatever you want. But when you
brag about it is where I'm like, well, that's kind of like you

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put it in a book, likeyou bragged about it. That's a weird
flex. My wife and I haverecently adopted a fur baby rescue. She's
very lovable, but needy and wantsconstant attention from us. By the way,
that's the definition of a dog.I love the dog as well,
and we have had her in ourlife now since late February. But I've
noticed that within the last two monthsat least, that the fur baby,

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who's a three year old Labrador GreatPyrenees mix, is taking a whole lot
of attention away from my wife andI getting intimate with each other and having
sex frequently. Actually, the furbaby is interfering with our regular love making
routines. We rarely have intimacy anymore, especially in the morning, and we
I enjoy sex and love making withmy wife, but now it is becoming

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a major issue within our marriage.Any suggestions on how to handle a needy
dog, Lindsey, Yeah, haveyou ever had children, because it's the
same thing there, it's you.You have a new responsibility. The dog
is three months old, it's stilla puppy. Create chair raining is going

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to be your best option in orderto get your sexy time with your wife.
Because this is a puppy. Soget some dog toys, put them
in the crate when you want tohave your playtime. The puppy can have
its playtime in the crate and youwon't have to worry about it tearing up
your house or your studio apartment,whatever the case may be. Good luck

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to you. Gimpy. First,this text says gimpy says create, So
lock them up and force them towatch. That's not what I'm saying.
That's just weird on brand. Yeahright, So yeah, there's a number
of ways that you can handle thisgreat training. I think is an ideal

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situation because that comes in handy formore than just you know, banging your
wife. You know, that comesin handy when you've got company over.
That comes in handy when you leave. Because here's the fun thing. When
you leave your house and you letyour dog just kind of roam the house,
you don't know what your dog's doing. Sure you may have a camera,
but you don't know. I don'tlike animals on my furniture. I

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won't let any of the dogs onmy couch. But when I can tell
you this, I can go outto the garage, smoke a cigarette and
come back and say, hey,get the hell off of my couch.
Why because dogs don't listen? Allright, So great training, I think
would be the ideal situation. Ifyou don't want to do that because you
think it's cruel and unusual punishment.Who would like to be luncked up in

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a crazy blah blah blah blah.Well, here's a couple of things.
It's not like it's all day ortwo or three or four days at a
time. It's really what five tenminutes max max. That's including for play
and putting your clothes back on andeverything, you know, and getting a
towel. Come on, come on, So you could do that, or
you could just shut the door ignorethe dog. If you need to turn

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some music on and crank it upa little bit and you won't hear the
whimpering at the damn door. It'sa dog. Come on. Sounds like
somebody has buyer's remorse. And whoare we talking about being needy? You
are the dog? Dog doesn't seemneedy. Dog seems to be getting what
he wants or isy uh, andI mean the recommendations, great train.

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All that sounds good. There's abigger question one. I go by this
philosophy. When you say yes tosomething, you're saying no to a bunch
of other things. And when yousaid yes to that dog, you said
no to stuff and you just didn'tknow sex was one of the things because
you didn't talk about it with yourlady. You could just talk to your

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lady, Hey, this is interferingwith what I thought was our time.
That's it, and she might go, oh well, hell, I just
it's a shiny toy. I justam excited that we have a dog.
You're taking it personal. You thinkit's about you. It's just a dog

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man. No, it hardly mattersin the end that you're missing out on
this morning sex right now, orthis noon sex or whatever it is.
When you're on your deathbed, you'renot gonna go I resent you because of

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spot hardly matters. All Right,we gotta take break. You can always
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emails. You can always email usshow at kmod dot com. Uh.
This one says, I have asister who's addicted to drugs. She's been

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in prison, she has stolen manytimes from our family for the drugs.
She's not an she is not activein our family only when she needs something,
shows up for a birthday party,but then asks for money when she
leaves. My mom, who enabledher, has recently passed away. I
feel like this is the time tobreak clean. Do I break away from
her or do I need to bethere for her? So she has someone

(01:29:04):
since my mom died. You meanhave someone that they can manipulate and get
everything they're looking for. I'm justsaying yeah, because that's what some people
do. That's what some addicts woulddo, you know, take advantage of

(01:29:25):
that situation. You know, yougot your kind heart out there trying to
just be a good sibling, youknow, and then manipulate you and twist
you around and use you and abuseyou. And then you look back and
you say, ah, hel,I think that I don't love that term
that they manipulate someone. Right.I think you're right. I think you're
accurate. But I think it makesit sound like they're twiddling their thumbs,

(01:29:50):
right. I think it's more ofa part of the side effect of the
mental problem they're going through that theyequate the help as love, and therefore
they keep doing it. They associatean added will associate you helping me as

(01:30:11):
love m hm. And so ifyou don't do that, then you don't
love me, that's fair. Andso it's part of the mental break that
they're dealing with, right, right, And they're just they don't understand maybe
or don't know about the term oftough love, you know, because that
is that is a thing, thatis a thing, tough love. Yeah,
but are you really helping them too? If you show them tough love

(01:30:33):
and just simply walk away and cutthem out of your life. Uh,
In my opinion, then this won'tThis isn't part of the advice. In
my opinion, Yes, you arehelping them. You are helping them by
putting them at least forcing them intothat direction of you got to help yourself.
I've done everything I could, youknow, and you I can't do

(01:30:56):
anymore. And the only way thatyou were going, at least in my
mind and my opinion, the onlyway that you're going to get straight is
to probably hit rock bottom. Andeverybody's rock bottom is different. You know,
when we hit that rock bottom andrealize, oh, hel look at
everything that I've lost and destroyed,the relationships that I've lost and destroyed because

(01:31:17):
of my actions. Yeah, then, at least in my mind and in
my experiences, those people always comeback around. It may take a little
while, but they come back aroundand say, man, I am so
sorry. The problem with rock bottomis it is a rear view mirror thing.
It's not a looking forward thing,right, right, right. You
have one group of people that arethat are in this situation that are looking

(01:31:41):
for rock bottom. But again it'ssomething that happens after the fact that where
the other party is like, I'mnot even looking for rock bottom. I
don't think anybody looks for rock bottom. But you know, when you hit
it, you know, when youhit it, you know, when you're
out there doing sexual favors for drugs, you know what I mean, or
or you know, doing whatever youcan sing your safety exactly exactly. Yeah.

(01:32:03):
I think I think people that areaffected by addicts do look for rock
bottom because they want the people thatare looking for not the addicts themsels Yeah,
okay, you're right. I thinkpeople that are affected by it wanted
to end so badly that they're wonderingif they wake up today, is this
the rock bottom today rock bottom?Right? Or when they get arrested for

(01:32:27):
trespassing, is this their rock bottom? Right? Right? But we can't
do that. The people that arelooking, you know, that are helping,
not the addicts. You know,I get that want to be over
with so badly, But you can'tdo that. But part of the disease.
You gotta let them go and letthem figure it out thanks to coming
in, says tell her, otherwiseshe winds up on your porch one day

(01:32:49):
unannounced. I like the cousin fromyesterday, be there for but tell her
no, then be ready for herto cut the ties out of anger.
Emotional support is fine. Financial supporthell no no. When some folks say
they must hit rock bottom for themto change, which is subjective separation or

(01:33:10):
declining help, may be the thingthey need. Was in the same situation,
Mom passed and we cut him loose, told him if he only calls
asking for something, then don't bothercalling. When you get clean, we
will be here. Mm. Whyyou grunt? I mean part of the

(01:33:31):
thing that I've heard addics say isthe control. They're feel like they're being
controlled by their family, and thatis another example of control. M hm.
Yeah, but you can only doso much. You gotta think of
you man one hundred percent. Butwhen you add the line we'll be there
when you get clean, it isa statement of you gotta do this for

(01:33:51):
us to be in your life.You could look at it as control,
or you can look at it asboundaries. I look at him as boundaries
agreed in your own personal boundaries anddrawing that lion in the sand and saying
no, you get your ass togetherand then I'll erase that line and you
can come home back in UH.As a recovering attic, I wish my

(01:34:15):
family had kicked me to the curba lot earlier. When they did so,
I would have grown up and dealtwith my addiction a lot sooner.
I'm twenty four years in my recoverynow. By the time I lost,
taking advantage of friends, family,and those I didn't know sometimes comes back
to haunt me right, still relivingthose, still having to make amends.
Yeah. When I was using methtwenty nine years ago, I didn't quit

(01:34:39):
till my entire entire family washed theirhands of me. Wasn't allowed around them
for anything. Took three months,called them for help, went to rehab,
never used meth again. Oh yeah, they should help their loved one
as long as they don't let themdrag them down and out with them.
Be firm but loving. I'm anaddict myself. We do manipulate our loved

(01:35:00):
ones. We don't really know thatthat's what we're doing, though it's complicated.
Addiction is bitch another one. Ihave the same situation attic little sister.
We lost our mom two years ago. I will be listening near if
I have the bandwidth, but that'sit. I have zero problem saying no.
After a while, she stopped askingfor things. It's always anytime this

(01:35:25):
topic comes up. I'm always eventhough I know, even after doing the
show as long as we've been doingit, the number of people this affects,
Yeah, it's almost like a darklittle secret. People carry around with
them as they have a family memberdealing with this or themselves have had to
deal with yeah, yeah, right, and I don't think. I think
sometimes when it's so common to normalize, it can be really helpful because I

(01:35:51):
think a lot of addicts feel alone. Yeah, and a lot of people
in recovery feel alone, right,And it might help be there by setting
boundaries, provide them resources for thehelp they need. If they can't live
in the boundaries you set, cutthem loose and have no contact. This

(01:36:12):
is not your child. You haveno obligations. Do whatever it is,
but do whatever that may be withlove. Don't do it out of hate
or sadness. I kind of disagreewith that. You're more than entitled to
do it out of hate or sadness. Yeah, it's your life, because
it's your mental health that you've gotto think about. And that's the thing
about this is like all that affectsyour mental health and you're not living a

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healthy and happy life. You're notthriving because your mind's focused on in this
case, relative or whatever. Yeah, and the other line that came in
that other text, if they cannotlive in the boundaries you set. I
mean again, I think the articulationof the words is super important because if

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you're articulating, you've got to livein my boundaries. We're back to that.
You're trying to control anything that Ithink some people feel. Absolutely,
Yes, but that's you've got tolive within my boundaries. Like you're still
in my little box and you can'tescape my little box. Yeah, No,
this is my little box. Youstay the hell out over there.
And then when I'm comfortable and Isee that you do an, then I'll

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open up the door and you cancome in my little box. Yeah.
But when it comes to I thinkyou do again. I think you have
to articulate it a certain way.Right, If you do this to me,
I can't be your brother anymore.Right, when you're set in a
boundary like you got to live theway I want you to live, or

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I can't be your it feels controlling. If your mind is already in a
place of you already feel like you'renot loved, right, you can easily
get to that place. Yeah,and you'll slip even further down that slope.
It's probably the best text, then, line between supporting and enabling.
Sometimes tough love is the way.Sometimes the s has to hit the fan

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for this person before they realize howdeep it is. True. Listener email
from someone who says they have asister who is addicted to drugs, been
in prison. She has stolen manytimes from our family for the drugs.
She's not active in our family onlywhen she needs something like shows up for
birthday, but always ask for somethingwhen she's gonna leave. My mom,
who enabled her, has recently passedaway, and I feel like this is

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the time to break clean. DoI break away from her or do I
need to be there for her?She has so she has someone since my
mom died. Lindsey. It's toughbecause I mean, it's your sister.
You clearly love her, but atthe end of the day, it's what's
best for you and your immediate family. You can break away from her,

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maybe just tell her I will behere as an ear to listen to you.
I'm not going to financially support yourdrug habit, and maybe tough love
is the way to go. Butalways make sure she has your number,
because it sounds like she wants tobe or he wants to be there for
her because it is family, butdefinitely doesn't want to get into that burden

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of financially supporting the sister. SoI think definitely make sure that she has
your phone number and always be thereto take her to a rehab center.
Ooh, that might be the way, the best way you could help.
I don't know. I haven't beenthat close to it. I mean,

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I've lost many friends to addiction.We've I had a friend who had been
in and out of rehab seven oreight times, and then we tried we
have him live with us for along time when he came out of rehab,
thinking that a different environment would begood for him, and it worked
for quite a while. He stayedclean for about eight or nine months,

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and then decided to move back tohis hometown and he ended up messing up
one day and died of a heroinoverdose. And that was rough. And
so, I mean, it's justaddiction is tough. It's really really tough.
So I don't have the right answer, I'm sure so, but I

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think is what's really going to behard is if he does walk away completely,
and then if she were to die, then he would be blaming himself
for that too. So I wouldsay, make sure that you are always
available in case she needs someone totalk to or reach out to, but
don't financially support the drug habit GIMPIthe attic can only help themselves. You

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if you suggest all these things,we'll go to rehab. We'll get you
in a facility. Blah blah blahblah blah. You're really just wasting your
breath. All right, Lindsey justsaid it yourself herself, you know,
come on in, we'll help you. Well. And then what happened turned
around and ended up slipping back again. Right, it's only when you found

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out that doesn't mean he was right, right, so, and that could
be one of those Well, I'mdown and out and I need a place
to stay, and so I'm gonnasay whatever I need to say to make
you happy so I can stay here. It's a manipulation, is all it
is. It sucks, but ifyou want my opinion, you're gonna have
to cut this bitch out of yourlife one hundred percent completely and stay strong

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with it because there's gonna be timeswhen they're gonna get mad, they're gonna
get sack, and they're gonna wantto call you up, you know,
and you just really gotta love themfrom a far I feel, and let
them get the help that they needon their own, because eventually they will

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realize they either will or they won't. It's a fifty to fifty shot on
this one. The either will orthey won't. They'll realize, Hey,
yeah, man, I have ruineda lot and I need to get my
s together and so therefore I'm goingto do it, and I'm going to
take the steps that I need tomake sure that I can get to that
point in life. You know,or they'll die. That's it. But

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you got to cut them out,Uh, I think Lindsey said to phrase
that is important. I don't knowif I have the right answer your sisters,
so briety is none of your business. And have you ever seen the

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movie In Time justin Timberlake, MinnesseFreed. I think in that movie they
lose time like they have a clockon embedded into their arm. And the
movie was way ahead of it ofits time. And I look at that
with addicts too. You won't havemy number. I won't be there for
you because I can't let you thatclose to the castle. You're a threat.

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You're a danger to me and mylife because you'll find like, oh,
well, you take me to rehab. You're there. Why doing that?
You give them a chance to sayyou took me to rehab. It
has to be one hundred percent then, and I hear you, like with

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the death thing, that would feeltragic, but it has nothing to do
with you. And for you tothink you aren't affected and you don't have
part of the disease and you weren'ta part of the enabling is also wrong.
You didn't make a boundary with yourmom when she continued to help.

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You made it okay for your momto do it, so you are a
part of the process as well.God, such a nasty disease and affect
so many people, and people thatare addicts will find, as can be
said, any way to get theirfootback in the door. Anyway. I
just wanted to call and say,because I have your number, I don't

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need I don't need anything. Andthen you're like, why you're good?
Do you need? You got aplace to stay because you care? No,
it's over, We're done. Andeven when they go to rehab and
get out, that's not even thework. The work is when you get
out. You have to show meafter that, right, right, that's

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when the heavy lifting is. Yeah, so nasty. A boundary can be
moved, right, you can moveit around if you need to. But
overall it is like I'm done.It isn't. I'm a boundary. And
also you can call me when youneed to. That's tragic, man.
All Right, we got to takea break. We'll be back. Tulsa's
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Wall sports. The Raiders are addinga three time Pro bowler to the trenches.
NFL Network reports that Vegas is signingveteran offensive lineman Andris Pete to a

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his experience at left guard and lefttackle throughout his nine year career. The
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Ravens, Arizona Cardinals, and KansasCity Chiefs linebacker Terrell Shuggs on two charges
stemming from a March incident at aStarbucks drive through in Scottsdale, Arizona.
He allegedly threatened to kill a driverof another vehicle and took out a gun

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during the incident. He was handeda felony charge for disorderly conduct involving a
weapon and a misdemeanor charge for intimidation. A June twelfth pre trial conference has
been scheduled in Americopa County, andhis trial day to September nineteenth. The
felony for disorderly conduct involving a weaponcould result in a prison sentence of as

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many as three years. Shugs isInternet plea of not guilty and that's your
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started. Time to tell the truth. This is your opportunity to ask anything
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question you want. Next that camein said who would win in a fight?

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Lindsey with the button, Corbin witha spoon, or Gimpy with a
fork. I always feel like afork is a lot more dangerous than a
butter knife or spoon. However,good butter knife, they've got a little

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bit more weight to them, atleast my silverware drawer. My butter knife
is a lot heavier, so ifI need to throw it. I thought
butter knives were like not the normaleveryday knife. A butter knife is a
special knife to cut butter. Hmm, well you have, there's all kinds

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of different knives, but I mean, at least the butter knives that I've
ever had to deal with are kandy, you know. There They do have
that part of it that is serrated, but it's not like you're getting through
much, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, butter knives or sak knife
or anything. Yeah, like butterknives are small. Yeah, an actual

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If we're going with an actual,real butter knife, I'm gonna go with
Gimpy with a fork, all right, Gimbi, Yeah, I'm gonna go
with Yeah, that's weird. It'sit says butter knife though. Yeah,
that's not like any butter knife that'smore for spreading. Yeah right, not

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like any kind of butter knife I'veever seen, but what you see in
the country crop commercials real man,like this one here, I'll there we
go, I'll send this one through. And that's that's the butter knives that
I'm used to having to deal with, you know, and you get them
in the standard you know, uhsilverware package when you buy a home and

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then you need to get silverware oryour parents gave it to you whatever.
At knife fifty two dollars. I'mnot paying fifty two dollars for a case
of twelve fifty two Hells, no, that's twelve. You don't what the
hell you need twelve butter knives for? But point uh any ham? Anyhow,
I'm gonna go with me and thefork because at least with the fork,
I've got stabbing ability, all right. With the spoon, just what

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are you gonna You're gonna dog meon the head with it? Bro come
on, Oh, I'll hit youin the head with it. Itna be
like I'll stop And what are yougonna scoop my eyeballs out. Okay,
there's not much you could do witha spoon. A butter knife, Matey,
Lindsey could saw on you a littlebit, right, but there's no
stabbing ability. You'd have to puta lot of force behind that in order

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for it to penetrate, you knowwhat I'm saying. So I think at
least with the fork I've got,I've got stabbing ability. I could stab
you anywhere with with this fork,and it's gonna hurt, It's gonna leave
a mark. You know. IfI jam the fork into your eyeball,
I could easily you know, pullit out, or I could stab you
in the gut or in the throat. So I'm totally saying me with the

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me with a fork one you neverwant to no matter what you have as
your weapon, you don't want toget rid of it. So throwing it
is a horrible idea, right,knife, regardless of what it is,
and fork definitely have stabbing or puncturingcapabilities. But if whatever utensil I have,
I'm using the other end, Okay, So use like the the spoon

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part, the curve part as ahandle, correct, gotcha? Got And
I'm using it to maybe puncture youin the side, maybe right in the
cheek, maybe even up in theneck. Yeah, and so okay,
I see where you're at, andI'm definitely letting you swing first because when
you go around and miss, assumingyou miss, that's an advantage point.

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So I could probably get two inbefore you could even swing back. So,
but on who can win, I'mgonna go with Gimpi only because of
the puncturability of a fork. Ithink there's more, but then again,
it could get stuck true, andthen you're like, and I don't know

(01:53:05):
how well he can hold a fork, no offense, I get it,
I understand. Yeah, I'll stillgo with fork though, So I'm gonna
go with with Gimpia on that one. What celebrity would you like to see
roasted next? Lindsey Ooh, KimKardashian is a pretty easy target. Probably

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you didn't have to say target.Hey now, yeah, Gimby. Uh,
let's go with Ellen Degenerous, goodone. Yeah, she seems to
have well, she had that squeakyclean image right until you know, her
employee started outing her. And Ithink that would be a fun one.

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I just saw it on the listhere. For another question, and that's
Dandy DeVito. Oh that could bea fun one. H not to embrace
it, like it'll be funny,and I feel like he can take it.
Yeah, that or the Rock.The Rock would be good. Arnold
Swarzenegger might be a good one too, because he had some I mean good

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movies and stuff too. But hehad a little bit of scandal too with
the maid. He didn't have alittle bit of scandal. He had a
massive scandal. It ended his marriage. Yeah, to Maria Shreiver. I
saw her on Shark Tank pitching something. Yeah, her son and his son
pitching some idea. I think youcan't. He's not Charlie Sheen, right,

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Like Charlie Sheen can weather some scandal, right, Yeah, So I
don't think that Arnold wants all ofhis dirty laundry aired that way where Charlie
Sheen was like his brand. Yeah, far commercials in my mob business.
Dude. If you go down therabbit hole of Arnold Schwarzenegger and the story
on how he did what he did, it's it's the American dream, not

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banging the mate, It's the Americandream. He came here, pursued a
thing pursued, another thing pursued anotherLike, yeah, the the amount of
obstacles he overcame is just insane.And the stories behind Conan beast Master and
all that so good. It's wortha rabbit hole to go down. Mary

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Bang killed Danny DeVito, Bill Clintonor mister Ed? Mister Ed in the
horse? Is there? What?What would be the other mister Ed?
You're confused with this idea? Okay, I just didn't know if there was
another mister Ed. H I'm gonnawho's got more money, Danny DeVito or

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Bill Clinton. I'll marry Yeah,right, I'll marry Bill Clinton, and
I'll bang the Vito and kill misterEd. Mister Ed's probably already dead,
gim beat. You know, thisis a tough one because here's my thought.

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I'd like to kill off Bill Clinton, right, not for anything in
particular, but I feel, youknow, kill him before he kills me.
Right. Yeah. But here's thething, though, I feel if
I killed him, then they,you know, Killery would just send somebody
after me or one other Clinton minionclintonion would just come after me. Right,

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So I feel like marrying Bill Clintonis probably the safest option out of
all of them. Okay, sothat leaves one of the other. All
right, I'm not having sex withmister Ed. I know how that video
ends. What makes you think you'rethe you're having sex with the right he

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could be having sex with me.Like I said, I know how that
movie ends. We don't know aboutmister Hans is no, So I guess
I'm gonna go ahead, and hI mean, I gotta kill mister Ed.
And that leaves me banging the penguin. As long as he does that,

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we're good. Here's the penguin.Here's a penguin who's older Danny DeVito
or Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton,Danny de Vito, Danny Vito by two
years. I'm totally marrying Bill Clinton. He doesn't have sex with his wife.
It's fine. So uh, andthen I'm absolutely killing mister Ed.

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And I'm absolutely banging Danny DeVito.And we all know mister Ed's already dead
in Tallaquah, so right, right, hardly a thing to be Jason Stathem
kills people all the time with aspoon. That's true. Sure, sure
right, I'm gonna regret this.But what is your best dark humor joke

(01:58:09):
that you can say on the radio. Mmm, my grief counselor died.
Oh yeah, he was so good. I don't even care. Okay,
Kim pi As, Oh, youdon't have one that I can say on

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air. My wife and I wentto a bar and people were giving us
all kinds of crap because of theage difference. Aya, because see I'm
forty, she's twenty one. Callme a pedophile, a creeper, just
sick, and it really ruined oureleventh anniversary. That's terrible. Uh.

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Who is your favorite author? Allright, lindsay right now? It's Colleen
Hoover, known from such great booksas Verity and it's It Ends with Us
was one of her latest that isactually being turned into a movie and uh

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with Blake Lively starring in it,and it's dropping this summer. Very excited
about it. Gimbi me, Iam the author of my own story.
You don't read. I don't readexcept for directions. Maybe even then,

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I'm gonna say, I'm more ofa topic guy than an author, dedicated
guy. I'm gonna go with theRick Ruman book is on creativity is ridiculously
good, okay, and a quickgrad I'm very grateful for If you could

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pick any legendary radio personality to cohost the show. Who would it be?
Hmmm, a legendary radio personality.Let's go with bring Back Someone from

(02:00:30):
the Dead and go with Casey Casemjust step in one day. Uh,
gimpee, I'm thinking Russell Brand.Yeah, he seems an interesting fellow.

(02:00:51):
Okay, yeah, that or JamieFox because I just add to you know,
quick Google search. I'm gonna keepup with radio personalities except for the
ones here. So I think yeah, Ham or Jamie Fox I think would
probably be the best. Jimmy KimmelOkay, oh yeah, forgot he did

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radio he started because he can't picksomeone like Dip Clark, right, Howard
Stern right there. It's not againstthem, it's they don't know how to
play back seat right right, right, right right? Watch an interview with
Howard Stern. With anyone he takesover the interview, Oh, absolutely,
because it's what he does. WaylonJennings did radio before he moved over into

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country music. Sure, so okay, I'll take my get I'm taking my
picks back. I'm going whaling.I'm gonna take my pick back too,
and go with Phil Hendry because well, that guy I watching him when he
would video his phone calls. Ilove that crazy human being, like he's

(02:01:59):
insane. I know what you're talkingabout. Yes, did you see the
latest on Russell Brand though? Howhe just he's getting sober and again yeah
again, and he just got baptized. Sure, well this time it'll stick.
He's been cleansed right, this timeit works. Yeah. We wish
him lucky. Absolutely good. Lookon all your journeys and future endeavors.

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Uh. Last book you got,Lindsay, you gotta think, Gimby,
you got to come up with one. Last book you got, Lindsay.
It starts with us? Is thenext part of it ends with us?
From Colleen Hoover? Okay, Parttwo, Gimpy. I believe it was
called Noah and it was a bookmy daughter gave me seven eight years ago

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something like that, A long timeago. I've still got it somewhere.
What's it about? I have noidea. I never wrote it. That's
fun topic. But books you don'tread that are gifts. Oh yeah,
uh the Righteous Mind and it isa book about morals and why people do

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what they do, just not inAmerica, but across cultures and if is
it possible for one person to knoweverything. Obviously the answers know, and
if they don't, then what areyou wrong about? Mmm? Uh yeah,
mm hmm. What's your best advicefor high school graduates? Who?

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Uh? For high school graduates?Oh h don't if you're I don't know,
don't oh my god, don't worryabout ever. Be definitive, have
an answer, move away, movea way, don't stick around with the

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same old people, make new friends. Definitely gimby. I guess it's something
kind of along those lines. Getout and have as much fun and explore
as humanly possible before you decide tosettle down, Ie, go backpack Europe,
move to another state, something tothat effect. Go to as many

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music festivals as you want, allright, because the moment that you settle
down and you get married and youhave the kids, life is over and
all those fun times they just changeinto different kinds of fun times, you
know, and you don't want tolook back and be like, oh man,
I wish I would have done X, Y and Z. So get
out and have as much fun beforeyou settle down. And I think both
those are good. Yeah, Ithink there's a certain amount of time that

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you can do whatever you want andnobody judges. You find yourself if you
will. My advice would be like, you don't know, you don't know,
but these are teenagers core when theyknow where everything you don't know.
I was thinking at my niece's graduationabout how that trying to go back to

(02:05:12):
when I had mine, my littlegraduation party thing and being like, you
know, metaphorically arms behind my head, legs up on the desk, like
yes, and that's such a laughablevisual. Yeah, based on who I
am, where I am, howI got here type of thing, and

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the people I graduated with that somany great things were expected from them and
they either died, fell apart,didn't accomplish anything more than better than they
didn't. Like It's insane, butfeeling like this was the moment like I've
I've arrived, which is the completelyopposite feeling of when I graduated college,

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which was oh no, what doI do? It was a completely terrifying
feeling graduating college, debt, job, the unknown, where am I going
to live? I don't want tomove home. I don't want to be
under my mom and dad's help.Have to you know, need to?

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Yeah, I was terrified after collegeI loved it. After I got my
first job and was like I wastold in college, don't be surprised if
you're offered a job for twelve grandworking in radio. And when I was
offered my first job for twenty twothousand dollars, I thought, oh my
god, I'm gonna be rich.Wow, And I was I'm doing it.

(02:06:43):
My mom and dad were scared thatI was going to actually have to
move home with them, and Iwas like, no, I'm on my
way. I'm leaving rich. Yeah, I'm leaving Minnesota. I'm going to
South Dakota. What year did yougraduate college? Two thousand and one and
somebody told you you were going tomake twelve thousand dollars And I thought you
would have never made twelve thousand dollars. No, No, that's not that's

(02:07:04):
not a salary offer in two thousandfor radio. Now twenty or eighteen,
totally, yeah, but twelve onethousand dollars a month, right, I
guess it's possible in South Dakota.I don't know what's coming. Yeah,
maybe if it was like an overnight'sjob or something. I worked overnights and

(02:07:25):
I got paid like eighteen, that'sawesome. No, it's not all right.
We gotta take a break. We'llbe back. No. Tulsa's Morning
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an also text to BMMS and thenwhat you want to say to eight two
nine four five. I've got aspecial edition of This is terrifying, okay,
and both of them are on thesame topic. I'll start easy on
you and then I'll really give itto you. Video captures gunshots and screams

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of women shooting boyfriend in the forehead. You're not dead? What twenty year
old main woman? I always considermain to not be like Florida, but
apparently Florida is everywhere. Has beencharged with the manslaughter and connection with the
fatal shooting on April. Second surveillancevideo captures the chilling audio of the incident.

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Olivia Babin allegedly shot and killed herboyfriend by holding a gun to his
forehead and saying, oh, don'tthink I will, before pull the trigger
and firing the fatal shot. Shotwas witnessed by at least two other people.
In a nest camera surveillance video,the gunshot can be clearly heard,

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followed by a woman's voice screaming,oh, fudge, not fudge. The
panic woman then repeatedly screams, you'renot dead. You're not dead, at
least seven times. I didn't knowwhat would go on in the movies.

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The video is part of the evidenceto convict this woman. During her bond
hearing, the Assistant Attorney General toldthe judge that police interviewed her at the
scene and that she lied to themabout what happened. During the initial police
interview, she allegedly told cops thatanother friend had argued with him about a
woman. She claimed to have hearda loud bang and witnessed the friend fleeing

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the scene. The friend told copsa different story, alleging it was her
who retrieved the nine millimeter handgun fromthe bedroom. Then she allegedly held the
gun to his head before pulling thetrigger, and he slumped to the ground.
According to the police apartment, sheallegedly changed clothes after the shooting and
threw the handgun in the river.Then she called nine one one. They

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rushed him rushed him to a nearbyhospital, where he was pronounced dead.
The motive for the shooting is unknown, but the friend claimed she was trying
to scare them. The gun didnot have the magazine in it, but
there was still a bullet in thechamber. Nam, let's just go ahead
and say this. There always is. Yeah, you always assume that is
there always is. Uh. Thenit was claimed in court that alcohol and

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drugs had been used the night ofthe incident. She's being held on one
hundred thousand dollars bond. She hasnot entered her plea and her attorney has
not returned any comment for any comments. Fine, yeah, well I just
wanted to scare her. I'm justwant to shake him up a little bit.
Yeah, anybody puts a gun nearme, I'm freaking out. Absolutely.

(02:11:07):
You don't know if it's loaded ornot. I don't know if the
whole stame calm thing is gonna workfor me if a gun's near me,
because guns kill people. So I'mgonna be pretty panicked. It's all good,
We're all fine here. Ah,God, what are you doing?
So that's terrifying? So is this? Mom made son three say goodbye to

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daddy on camera before shooting him deadin a murder suicide. Oh my god,
I said I was gonna go hardon the second one. Texas mom
told her three year old son saygoodbye to Daddy on camera moments before she
shot the boy in a ditch andthen turned the gun on herself. A

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day before she was dueing court fora custody hearing with her ex husband.
God, so what she was losing. And if I can't have them,
nobody can. That was exactly hername, Savannah. If you can't have
him, no one can. Krigerand her son Kayden were found dead with
gunshot wounds to their heads at apark on March nineteenth, but thorities have

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spent weeks piecing together the final hoursas they probe the murder suicide. In
the hours before the slains, Thortysay that she shot at her old wedding
photos, trashed her ex husband's home, and taunted him with a slew of
FaceTime videos and texts, warning himyou won't have anything at all by the

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end of the day. The grimo'deal started to unfold when she left work
on the afternoon to March Tate eighteenthand headed straight to her ex'es home while
he was at work. After damagingthe ex's furniture and some personal items,
she then drove to her own home, where cops later found her wedding dress
and portraits laid out on the bed. We believe that she fired two shots

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in her wedding port into her weddingportraits, subsequently picked up her son from
daycare and then started inundating the fatherwith the harrowing messages. According to authorities,
quote, you don't have anything togo home to now, you really
don't, she said on one FaceTimeanother one. You won't have anything at
all by the end of the day. The final text, say goodbye to

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your son. Twenty one second videorecovered from her phone showed her and her
son sitting in the ditch at thepark where their bodies would be discovered,
and the clip authority said the momtold her son say goodbye to daddy before
she apologized to the boy that hisfather wasn't there and then kissed him.
Phone records show that she then lookedup videos of children's cartoons on her cell

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phone while they were sitting in theditch. Damn, the video does not
cat There's no video of the finalshooting, but it's pretty clear. According
to the Sheriff's office were discovered nineteenhours later, all to get back at
our ex. Medical examer quickly labeledthe two dwances murder murder suicide. Authorities

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at the time had also revealed thatthe little boy was at the center of
a custody battle. She had filedfor divorce and a temporary straining order against
her ex on March seventh. Thecouple were doing court March nineteenth, the
day the bodies were discovered. Greedybitches. I mean, I don't know
if the bitches part, but Iunderstand what you're saying. Yeah, greedy

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people, Yeah, yeah, surebitches. Some would argue it's love,
and I know that sounds twisted,but some would argue that they loved them
so much the idea of not gettingany every day with them is too much.
Yeah. Sure, I'm not sayingthat's normal. I'm not saying that
you're the same person if you thinkthat. I'm just saying some people believe
that. I don't even think itwas about her son at all. It

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was about her, her ex.I mean, shooting up, her shooting
up the pictures and her wedding photosand all that sounded like it was about
ruining his life. It wasn't abouther not having her son. It was
all about ruining his life. Right. I think it's easy after the fact

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to say stuff like that. Idon't think he cared about her wedding dresser
pictures, so it didn't hardly botherhim, right, No, it was
that it bothered her, so hercrazy. Yeah, but that's what I'm
saying. You're implying that it wasto get back him. He doesn't care
about the dress. From the beginning, she was dealing with something right,
right, she was losing her family, her relationship, everything was just going

(02:15:41):
to hell. And to me itsoundedlike she got pissed drunk one day and
everything just waited on her one time, and she took her gun out,
and you know, she shot thewedding photos a couple of times. I
mean, you sun of a bitand then like, you know, did
whatever the dress? She's like,you know what, I'm gonna show him,

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And then realizing that, you know, well I can't kill him.
I'll go to jail for that,and I don't want to do prison time.
What's the next best option, Well, I could kill myself within that
means he would get the kid.I'll have a kid. Jesus one me

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so I will have me think Iknow what I'm gonna do. I just
okay. I mean, I loveyour drunk voice, but you don't have
to be drunk to have those thoughts. No, absolutely, no, no
you don't. But that's just apicture that I painted in my head as
you were telling the story. Andnot as terrifying, but also terrifying.

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There was a video that circulated twodays ago and Lindsay and I watched it
of this preacher giving his sermon tohis congregation, if you will, and
making just a normal felt like anormal sermon. And in this then,
uh, at the end, hementions that his wife had killed killed herself

(02:17:11):
the day night before. Oh no, and he's like, uh, it's
all good. I'm gonna take afew days, blah blah blah blah.
And people were shocked, of course, as yes. Then the story starts
unraveling. They had been separated fora while. She he says, she

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had a drug problem and was notmentally stable. He doesn't believe in divorce,
so he killed her. He's witha new woman and has been for
a while, but wouldn't take offhis wedding ring. She also had a
husband. Allegedly, he also surprisinglydied. He had been in a wheelchair

(02:18:01):
for many years, many many years, and every morning he apparently would go
for a swim in his wheelchair.People in wheelchairs can go for swims.
They have that arm thing on theside, right. And I don't know
how disabled he was. I knowpeople in wheelchairs that can walk DJ And
one morning, of all the yearshe's ever done it, maybe in the

(02:18:22):
thousands of trips he's done to thepool, this one trip not so lucky,
and he drowned, wasn't found forhours in a pool. So what
are these two people have in common. I'm not saying he's dying. I

(02:18:43):
have no idea police are investigating.She made multiple claims of abuse against him.
The family of hers is like,he needs to be investigated. Yeah,
And I was telling Lindsay, it'salways fascinate when it just happens to
be a man comes out and goes, hey, she's being crazy. People

(02:19:07):
just go yep, And then anythingshe says it's discounting. So we'll see
how that plays out. That story. That woman in Spain, you might
remember, she went missing from herapartment. They arrested the husband in Miami.
Hum, oh yeah, yeah,that was like right after the New

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year. Then, yes, it'sa crazy story and like guess what the
husband did it? That's usually howit works out. It's crazy how it's
more often than not. That womanthat was in Houston went missing, and
then they arrested him, the husband, and they found tranquilizers in her system,

(02:19:54):
and they found an empty tranquilizer inhis car. Oh boy, he's
like on camera with his daughters onhim. I didn't do it. What
do he dozes man? Yeah,you're not looking very innocent. You better
be a horse trinquilizing doctor. Hey, right, are you a vet?
Uh? Even if he is,it even makes it more sus right because

(02:20:18):
he has access to the drugs thatkilled his wife. Are you just reslentlessly
giving horses you know, special kand then ditching it in the passenger seat
like I do my tissues. AllRight, we gotta take a break.
We'll be back. More of TheBig Mad Morning Show is next ninety seventy
five. Good morning, It's theBig Mad Morning Show. You had a

(02:20:56):
chance. He go look at thephotos of the Hampton and Bartlesville like two
by fours stuck in the side.Yeah, tornadoes will do this all right,
lindsay, what'd you learn today?I learned about the Hereford House steakhouse
where you pay for the steak,but the bodily fluids are on the house.
And you shouldn't feel bad about creatingyour dog to have sexy time with

(02:21:18):
your wife. It's just two minutes, after all, unless, of course,
you do a doggy style, thenthat's fourteen minutes. Your dog is
locked up and it's great. Gimby, what'd you learn today? It's funny
how we're both kind of you know, same thing there, but not really.
Does it last longer for doggy?Is that what you're implying? Yes,

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okay, dog ears seven times twois fourteen? There you go.
Well. I learned that I likemy steak smothered, but not in baby
gravy. And I also learn thatif the dogs interrupting sexy time, do
not throw that dog a bone.Learned that Gimbeele likes to cut his dogs

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make him watch. Yeah, ohno, that's what they call him.
They call him a Herford or herfernHouiser. I don't know they call them.
Uh. And I also learned,hey, listen. It's different if
you rub lettuce on your taint thanit is other bodily fluids. Corbyn saying,
make sure that dishwasher is loaded rightstray and thank you, Thank you,

(02:22:28):
Baddy. Can I get a shouldmake in passport corn new messages.

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The Big Mad Morning SHO would liketo take a minute to thank troops from
Oklahoma and all over the United States. These soldiers have sacrifice. Give the
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total douchebag, a little in completedouchebag. We honor and respect you.
We honor and respect you. Wehonor and respect you. Less rock and
Roll. I'm bless Tulsa. Wetry boys. My wife just got a

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She shared a text she got fromher office network. It says, uh,
our company is concerned of your wellbeing with the recent impact of severe
weather. Please reply with the response. Your response is required. And in
the choices, it's like, I'mokay, unaffected, I have been affected.

(02:23:52):
I need help, Like there's multiplechoicesho. The world is crashing down,
as I want to know, andand like I'm like that's really nice.
That's it's a good company. Sheworks for. Meanwhile, we're greedy
as fuck for just asking for youknow, paper towels, coffee, coffee,
stuff like that, things clean Xclean X going through cold and flu

(02:24:15):
season without any cleanex? Or isit a company's job? I love this
conversation. Is it a company's jobto provide cleanex? Yes? I think
so. I think it is,say more because it's a necessity. I
think in a in an office building, more things that you need to have.
Why you gotta have toilet paper,should have clean that's true. Well,
you have to have toilet paper ina bathroom? That is I think

(02:24:37):
that feels obvious. Is there alaw that says you have to have you
have to provide toilet paper? Theseare things I never really thought about.
It's just always there. I'll leanin on the toilet paper tissue. I
don't think so. Yeah. Ithink it depends on if if if you

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like, if it's just you andlike maybe if it's a small shop,
right, you know what I'm saying, it's like you and like three other
people, then I don't think maybenow, But if it's a major corporation
where you've got how many people dowe have buzzing around here when we are
at of max capacity? Right orthat was left small shop right right right
right? But no, before beforeCOVID, before all that jibe we had

(02:25:24):
or something exactly, and and Ithink for something to that effect, and
something maybe like your wife's work,then yes, I think it's on the
the company. Shut up. Whatthe fuck is my neighbor calling me for?
She knows what's up? Anyway,I think it's on like it's right,
let the dog out. That's singular, by the way, yes,

(02:25:48):
yes, anyhow, and no sixfer it's three dogs, we're straight away.
So I think that I think itis the company. When you have
you know that many employees in onebuilding, it is on them to provide,
you know, stuff like the tissuepaper to blow your nose because it's

(02:26:09):
cold and flu season or else.You just got a bunch of people running
around snot dripping everywhere. Yeah,I agree, I mean people, people
sneeze. What's one thing you grabwhen you sneeze? Exactly exactly? Women,
menstreak? Just should they provide pads? Yes, I have worked in

(02:26:31):
offices. That's not the question.That's not the question. Because women bleed,
I would argue that is a biggernecessity. I think they should,
even if it is like the cheapestof the cheap tampoons, pads, whatever
it is. They make high schoolerspay for me well, I mean it's
at a quarter. I'm just saying, that's how twisted it is. And

(02:26:54):
you can make an argument about femininestuff like uh, female rights and all
that stuff, and the fact thatthey make women pay for a sanitary napkin,
but here's a tissue. It's insaneto me the argument that they should
provide tissues, but sanitary napkins,I do disagreement. In schools, No,
you can go into the nurses rightand get that and see and I

(02:27:18):
could see like the difference there withthe pads and the puns. Like everybody's
different, right, the different thingsfit for different women. Fucking clean axes.
It's a fucking cleen axe. It'sliterally everybody calls Kleenex Kleenex because it's
clean x. You see what I'msaying. It's fucking used. It's universal.
It's not like Lindsay's fucking nose isgoing to be any different than mine,

(02:27:41):
you know, when it comes tothe stuff that comes out of it.
So so, But with the padsand the tampons. Yeah, absolutely,
I could see. Well, wecan't provide you know, those,
because everybody's different. Every woman's vaginais different, everybody bleeds differently, you
know, but everybody's fucking nose rightis the same. What year did the
Oklahoma State Legislator create a bill tomake sure or to propose free menstruation products

(02:28:09):
in schools? What year? Twothousand and ten? Wow? I was
gonna say nineteen eighty six, butI feel like twenty ten, twenty sixteen
seems more appropriate. Twenty twenty four, what the fuck are you serious?
That's some bullshit. By the way, still model passed. We're still working

(02:28:35):
on that, and that shouldn't haveto go to the nurse to go with
what you're supposed to fucking squeak downand slim trail to the fucking nurse's office,
right like a doug and he justleaving the trail behind. Yeah,
but tissues, goddamn yeh to theoccasional, even in schools, they don't

(02:28:56):
you You've got to provide your owngoddamn tissues, you know, I never
forget, you know, like,here's your school supply list. It used
to be fucking number two pencils anda fucking notebook, maybe some collar and
pencils. So go ahead and bringyour fucking litter box in because you feel
like a cat today. A thingthat never happened. We had to you
know, we had to buy thepro tractor and the compass, which I

(02:29:18):
thought was awesome. That's a fuckingweapon that they let you bring to school
anyway, you know. But nowit's like, we need we need sixteen
boxes of clean acts, and wealso need four containers of glue because you
know you y'all motherfuckers are supplying theentire classroom. Not this, not the
school system supplying it. This isgreat. I'm just going down a rabbit

(02:29:41):
hole of people saying do businesses haveto reply toilet paper? Yeah, And
there's no clear definitive that they haveto now in this building. For example,
we don't own this building. Thebuilding provides it as a benefit of
why you should rent space in thisbuilding. Right, So it's not a
line item, right, But Iwould argue personally it is twenty twenty four.

(02:30:05):
You don't have to provide tissue,you don't have to provide coffee,
you don't have to provide any ofthose things. It is a luxury and
maybe a benefit of why you wouldwant to work there. But like I
bring my own tissue because ours suck, right the ones when they did do
it right, I'll give you theones that, like, you know,
coffee. Probably shouldn't have to supplycoffee, You're not everybody needs coffee.

(02:30:30):
You should provide Hell we don't.You should probably provide water of sorts or
a source of water, you know, so your people, your employees can
stay hydrated throughout the day. Becauseto keep you hydrated. I'm not hiring
you to take care of you.No, no, you're not. But
at the same time, you knowit's it's a health thing. At that
point in time, you know,you can't go so long without water in

(02:30:54):
you. So, so coffee isjust flavored water, for sure, but
you know, at least or fountain, you know, even if it is
not like the Colligan Man or anything. But like we had in school,
you know, I mean the argumentyou're making, I get like, you
can't go you can actually go muchlonger without food exactly, then you can

(02:31:15):
what you can go a couple ofdays without water, right, it's like
twenty eight seven days. Yeah,so you're a grown a dog. If
we trust you to put cover sheetson the TPS report, surely you can
be capable of hydrating yourself. Yeah, with the water you're fucking providing me.
So with that question, do peopleshow up to work without food,
like with no plan, Like I'mnot gonna go eat at Waldo's? Yeah?

(02:31:39):
Yeah, really funk. I've beenin that boat before. Having money
uh huh, and no means isnot the same as I don't know I
need to do this. Well,you know you need to do it.
I think everybody knows that they needto eat, right, so therefore,
you know you have to do itto survive. And it's on you to

(02:32:00):
provide your own meal. It's noton the company. I don't think to
supply you with lunch every day.If they did, they'd be fucking awesome.
You know, Waldo's every day.I worked at a I worked at
a place that provided breakfast every day, and when I lived in worked in
San Francisco. I did research atan agency and it was awesome. Yeah,

(02:32:20):
yeah, it was awesome. Everybodyshowed up for work on time because
they only did it from like likean hour before you were supposed to be
there, and they stopped like fifteenminutes after work started. It was brilliant,
right, yeah, got everybody thereand it was always good, always
good. And then they took itaway because you know it's expensive. Yeah,

(02:32:41):
yeah, like fucking tissues. Ah, I don't know what's what's a
box of tissue've got? And I'mnot talking one single box, like a
box of boxes. You see whatI'm saying. Fifty You know that's not
that bad. Well, I getfrom Amazon every three months, I get
a box of I think twelve boxesget delivered to my house. You like

(02:33:03):
a dozen boxes a tissue a dozenboxes and it's thirteen dollars. That's not
that bad. Yeah, and thenhow much is there like an omelet bar
right or whatever? Right? No, I get it. But when you
do that for you do that houselongs that last you three months? Yeah?
Every God good for you. Right. You guys clean up a different
way up Jesus, I just useregular toilet paper. But hey, tweet,

(02:33:30):
Yeah, we're all different. Butin an office where you have what
fifty people, one hundred people,we're not in this office. And then
you I know, but you gotto go categorically, and then that stuff
adds up yeah, and then you'respending what two hundred dollars a year just
in one location on one item,right, that is deemed a luxury.

(02:33:52):
Right. But if you are ina corporate office and that that corporation is
worth billions and billions and billions ofdollars, you know you can come off
some fucking cash for some kinddamn tissues. Yeah, spoken like a true person
who's never ran a business, right, Like we've all thought that, right.
I know how much of pizza costs. I know how much you shouldn't

(02:34:13):
have to charge me this much,right, Yeah, but you're not talking
about all the other things it takesto run a business. I totally understand
that though they are a for profitcompany, our company isn't exactly profitable,
right, right, right, becausethey're buying too many goddamn tissues. They're
trying to save on women dripping.That's that's that's why we fire so many
motherfuckers. You're like, god,damn well, those motherfuckers and tols and

(02:34:35):
need some tissues, all right,If you won't shut up about coffee,
fire someone, all right, generalmanager in Pensacola, you're out right,
someone gets someone gets fired, andpeople are like I should have tried harder
at work, bitch, she shouldhave complained about coffee, right, you
keep your fucking mouse shutting do yourjob. Yeah, well it's an interesting
thing, like should they provide tissues? Never thought of it, but it

(02:34:58):
is pretty fantastic to think about whatshould a company provide? It's a luxury,
right, like it is a benefitfor sure, and why you would
work somewhere. Yeah, I've neverreally thought about it, never really thought
about it because why because it's alwaysjust there. It's always that they everybody

(02:35:18):
has that same service. You knowwhat service I'm talking about. They come
in and they fill up your coffee, you know, with the packages of
coffee that tastes like dog ass,but it's still coffee. Yeah, it's
still coffee, you know. Butit's it's always there. It's always there,
and it wasn't until just recently herethey're like, you got to bring
your own coffee. I'm like,you know what, fuck it, I'm
gonna switch over. Do you rememberbrinking water? I don't think you were

(02:35:39):
here yet, Lindsay, but doyou remember that clown ass shit we went
through with They were trying to decidewhat coffee to fuck it all. Yeah,
And I was like, this isthe dumbest shit We've ever wasted time
on set around and sipped and tastedand I was there, are you gonna
do it? I was like,fuck no, it's coffee tasting, Oh
my god. And here's here's onepiece of shit flavor right right, and

(02:36:00):
here's another piece of it's all pieceof shits. It's not good coffee.
That's This company is not the firstcompany that I've been with that did that.
The last company I was with wehad a coffee tasting the afternoon or
what the fuck ever, because Iguess people were tired of the same shit
coffee, so we got another shitcoffee, you know. And Terry,
God love him, did it becausehe was like, I'm just trying to
make people happy. That's it.That's it, that's it. It worked,

(02:36:24):
you know what I mean? Coffeecoffee black silk by Folgers is good
coffee. That's the worst. Oh, I love it. This is why
I was saying it was stupid asshit. Huh, she likes black silk.
You'll take fucking whatever's on discount.Oh no, I've gotten very picky.
What's your thing? I go,I get my own beans from the

(02:36:46):
winkoat and I grind my own coffee. Yeah, that's good too, but
do you want to go cheaper?I got burnt up on folders. I
was a folders guy for the longesttime, from like the time that I
started drinking coffee until maybe just coupleof years ago. Same fucking way.
It wasn't black silk. It wasalways some French roasted bullshit or what the
fuck ever, you know what Imean. But that was it, and

(02:37:09):
then I just got tired of it. I had a different flavored coffee one
time, and I was like,this is way fucking better, and so
I switched over. You bugy assbeaner. Yeah, beans, Yeah,
there is something about grinding your ownbeans. Yeah, dude fresh to me.
If when you do blacks, whichis whatever, fine you want,

(02:37:30):
but like when you taste a differentcoffee and you go, shit, there's
this whole spectrum of coffee out there, it's a game change. Yeah.
I love espresso for that reason.Oh yeah, not for the kick,
but for the like you're like,goddamn, this is a this is a
fucking roast. This is a beanthat somebody passed over multiple times, and
someone even at the foresight to go, let's pass it through a monkey to

(02:37:50):
see if it makes it taste better. Right. I haven't tried the monkey
shit copy yet, but I'm notsaying that I wouldn't if it was available,
But you can't find Hoope Lou Wagat the fucking wind Coo or Walmart.
Just saying yeah, but but ifit was there, I would try.
I would try monkey shit coffee atleast one time, just to either
say hey, yeah, this isgreat, I can see why it's so

(02:38:11):
expensive, or to say I drinkmonkey shit coffee. I would I don't
want to see the process, likefrom you know, how the sausage is
made. But uh, if youwere like, oh, this is that
special luck of gugga coffee, I'dbe like, oh really, And then
you taste and you're like, god, that's that is a very ooh mommy
flavor, very shit and they're likeyeah because the monkey sh Like wow,

(02:38:35):
I get it. While people talkabout it so much, it's like squid
ink. I don't love squidd in, like pasta or stuff like that.
Yeah, some people love the shitout of it, and I'm like,
it's fucking ink. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't think I've ever
had it. I'm down for thesquid. I'm like, some column are
good ship right there, but youkeep whatever's in it, whatever out of
it. But I'm the same wayof like sweetbreads and stuff like that.

(02:38:56):
I'm like, who the fuck wantsto eat that? Bro? It's a
food you ate because you were notwasteful, not because it was a delicacy,
right. It wasn't until later onpeople are like, oh, well
this is really good. You're eatingbrains. Yeah, it's just a dick
swing thing, that's all it is. Right. We can't say that we
have eaten brains before, though,at least you and I have. I

(02:39:16):
don't know if Lindsay wasn't here atthat time. From now on, when
we ate the pig brains, thatwas fun. That was done. A
lot of stupid shit that was that. That was a different texture that I've
never It was kind of mush,kind of gritty, kind of you know,
stringing all at the same time.Yeah, you know, yeah,
yeah, we have eaten some weirdshit on the show, just for just
cause I want to do it tomorrow. Nope, Yes, we're gonna do

(02:39:39):
it. Town. You're a bigwildlife lady. Yeah, you ever have
the blue egg? Yeah? Okay, so we won't need that one.
We did that? Did we dothat one? We did that one?
I remember if we did that oneand we did the what was the weird
fruit? There's no way you're plumpingin that fruit. The smell with with

(02:40:00):
with a ballute egg, those arethe spectrum is so wide. Yeah.
On eating a actual bird, yearaw with feathers, yeah, and a
beak. Yeah, you puel thategg open. You're like, hey,
my head, are you talking aboutthe dark egg? Are you thinking the
dark it was the it was No, it was was a fucking baby bird

(02:40:22):
inside. That's the ballute egg.The black egg is the century egg.
Yeah, and we've done that onthe show as well before that. Yeah,
that was pretty gross. Yeah,people are like, what don't you
why don't you do cucked anymore?Fucking reasons like that. Here's a reason,
go fuck your mom. That's areason. I fucking hate when people

(02:40:48):
do that. Hey, you knowthe thing, I'm not a part of
it, but I get to aspectator of right, will you fucking do
that again? A right? No, I fucking won't you fucking I'm not
your guy. Damn side shows,dance Monkey dance right, yes, when
you pay the fee right for admission. I got this video I'm gonna play.

(02:41:11):
It's on TikTok. I'm gonna playfor Kimi because it's Lindsay of course
too. But I thought of youwhen I saw this to get your take.
So she'll set it up and wecan pause as at will. I'm
gonna be telling my boyfriend things thatI consider to be micro cheating. Did
you know micro cheating was a thingthat I did. I mean, that's
that's anything like, you know,just even talking to somebody else, looking

(02:41:33):
at somebody else's a version of microcheating. You don't actually have to stick
your dick inside of them. It'syou know, emotional, right, there's
cheating, and then there's little thingsthat feel like ro you are not being
loyal, right, It feels likenitpicking in my opinion. Okay, well
you're gonna love this then, andthen you can either agree or disagree.
Ready. Number one, being overlyfriendly with any other girl that micro cheating.

(02:42:01):
What's your definition of overly friendly?Right? Because that's all arbitrary right
there, that's just what you thinkmight be overly friendly. I might not
think so, so I guess ultimatelyin the end, we're just talking partnership.
Right. If my partner feels likeI'm being overly friendly, then yes,
that would be a form of microcheating. Yes, what you find
overly friendly, I might say,you're just being insecure, right, yeah,

(02:42:26):
So do we feel like that's microcheating? No, it can be,
but I mean I wouldn't look atit that way unless you know,
the partner came up and said,hey, I don't like the way you're
doing this, and then I'd belike, yeah, okay, I get
it. It's Mike cheating. Mywife and I just had a conversation about
this, and I asked her ifit would be different if it was a

(02:42:46):
really hideous looking person I was beingfriendly with oh, and she was like,
well, yeah, i'd be different. Yeah, Like, uh huh,
then it ain't. I'm not beingoverly friendly because I do it.
I'm not kind. I'm nice likethat way to everybody that helps us.
And she's like, well, it'sjust different when they're how they look.
I'm like, okay, right right. So, uh, if your partner

(02:43:07):
says it is, then I thinkyou either are with that or you're not.
Yeah, So yeah, we're toolying about your relationship status with anyone
else. Yeah, that's just beinga shitty motherfucker. God damn, you
don't fuck somebody, right, Butthat's just that's just being dishonest. Is

(02:43:31):
that cheating? Well, I'm gonnathrow what you guys said back out at
you. It's it's kind of subjective, right because if you go, hey,
do you have a boyfriend and yousay no, then yeah, you
are lying. Yeah. But ifsomebody says something a little more ambiguous and
I don't raise my hand, isthat me being dishonest? Uh? Yeah,

(02:43:56):
because you know that you're with somebodyand you're in a relationship and you're
not. It's like lying by omission. You see what I'm saying. No,
I just I'm just throwing it backout you. I'm not on board
with all this, but absolutely.But to me, the idea is that,
uh, then if you're at agang bang and they're like anybody here
with somebody and you don't raise yourhand, fucking hey, yeah, that's
a form of micro cheating. Butif we're at a gang bang Chamber of

(02:44:20):
Commerce Networking luncheon and I don't raisemy hand, that hardly means it's not
micro cheating. Maybe it is,yeah, guy, friend, girlfriend,
your family, media termination, hey, good number three. Constantly complaining about
your partner to someone else. Noventing, Yeah, that's getting shipped off your

(02:44:43):
mind because once you start laying intoyour partner about all the ways she's fucking
up or hey, you know,then that just totally changes everything and it
causes a rift in the relationship.So you're just getting out your frustrations without
pizzling off your partner. Yeah,and what's constant. What's constant to you
might be different from constant to theother person. I don't know if I

(02:45:05):
would call it micro cheating, butit has a tendency to become cancerous quite
quickly. Absolutely well, if yourfucking relationship wasn't a huge cancer, maybe
you wouldn't have they no being onegoddamnit right. If your relationship is that
bad that you can't talk to theperson you're with because of they're a piece
of shit or you they don't takeAmazon boxes to the fucking trash can or

(02:45:26):
whatever, then don't be in therelationship if you've got to vent to someone
else about it. To me,I think that is I don't know if
it's cheating, but it is kindof weird. Yep. Okay. Number
number four deleting messages, whether it'sInstagram, text anything, grounds termination deleting

(02:45:46):
messages. Yeah, I mean that'ssome shady shit too. That's covering your
track. I want you to seethat. Yeah, that's shady. I
don't know if it's cheating, butit's definitely shady. If I get email
from a listener who I don't knowbeing sexually suggestive and I deleted, am

(02:46:07):
I micro cheating and hiding it frommy wife? You are hiding it from
your wife responded to it right now. That's a different thing. That's not
the question though. You're adding,don't add deleting if it was. If
it was, if your relationship iscompletely one hundred percent honest like you say
it is, or whatever, andI'm just saying, then you should be
able to go up to your partnerand be like, I got an email,

(02:46:31):
you know, from a female orwhatever from a listener that was some
you know, very suggestive, youknow, and even had some pictures in
there, but I deleted it instantly. You know, you're being upfront and
honest with them, you know,and it's not like she went through your
deleted emails or deleted messages and thenfound it. You know, I was
like, well, what's this?Da da da da da da da.
Yeah? Do you know who thelistener is or it's just some I don't

(02:46:56):
know. I think we're adding well, I mean, like, because if
you know who the listener is,like if you've seen them face to face,
if they've been to an event,or I think that matters. I
don't think it matters. I don'tthink it matters at all. No,
I think she's saying it matters,and what on you on what you're saying,
what you're arguing for so far aslike being honest, I have to
be honest about it. If you'veknown them, is what she's saying.

(02:47:20):
Even then it does matter if you'restill being honest with your partner one hundred
percent. It wouldn't matter if youknow the person or not. You would
just go straight up to them.Hey, I got this fucking email today
and it was very suggestive and sheshowed me your movies, you know,
but I deleted it and I wantto let you know so that way,
you know, we're just being completelytransparent. I know. I don't agree

(02:47:41):
with that, I think that ifsomebody this is a unique scenario of being
a listener. But like, ifI get an email from a listener and
it's something weird like that, I'mdeleting it because if I'm going to do
it with that, then I haveto do it with every email I get.
That's weird. Do you know anyweird emails I get? Right now?
It's a fucking project. And I'malready trying to just tell alone time
to communicate with my wife, andnow I got to go through my fucking

(02:48:03):
emails a bit with HERR. Fuck, no, I'm not doing that.
With that being said, if apattern occurs where somebody does it multiple times,
that's different. Okay, then it'stime to be like or I've had
a problem with the listener who's stalking. That's different, right, But every
email I get, Oh my god, that's our Facebook message. I got

(02:48:26):
a Facebook message. Girl thought Iwas cute. I thought I should tell
you it's exhausting. Next one likinganother girl's story on Instagram. Oh no,
no, I don't think so interesting. It's an interesting answer for me.
Well, just a minute ago,you were like, any sort of

(02:48:46):
communication I should make sure I'm havefull disclosure on. But I can go
ahead and be like, hey,well no you're not saying hey, you're
just liking a story or whatever itis, it ain't innocent. Maybe then
then with you saying that right theremakes me think and I'm not saying that
you do before anything gets blown outof proportion here, but it makes it
sound like you've already got something inthe back of your mind about that person

(02:49:09):
that you just liked their story on. You've already got it in the back
of your head, Like you know, I would totally bend this bitch over
in fuck your sideway, right,you see what I'm saying. But if
the thought's not there, then it'sjust it is one innocent then I think
it's okay. Lindsay, yeah,I think it's okay, especially if you

(02:49:30):
don't know the person. If youdon't know the person it yeah, it's
like if you don't know the personcelebrity, if it's if it's a random
fucking Joe, you know, orlike a friend of a friend, that
might be a little week. Whyare you liking a celebrities post? Why
not? Because it's fucking Taylor Swift, you know, And I just throw
that out. But I have thesame opinion across the board. Why are

(02:49:50):
you liking it? It doesn't fuckingmatter, It plays no role. You
are doing it to release an endorphenton your end, to make you feel
like you liked somebody else's thing.Maybe so, maybe, But I don't
think there's anything. I don't thinkthere's any you know, nefarious going on
there, right, Yeah, Idon't either. He's thinking about the answer.

(02:50:13):
Girls take that it's like a hint. It's weird. Yeah, okay,
to see what she said there,she said, girls take it as
a hint. Uh huh. Himpyliked my post, Corbin liked my post.
Lindsay liked my post. Well undertoneexactly. And also, how do
we know that he's not just agreeingwith her just to shut up? Y

(02:50:37):
Yeah, no, good point.It never happens taining contact with exes or
people used to have a thing withor have feelings with. Maintaining contact with
exes or someone you used to havecontact with, unless there's children involved,
you should not. Yeah. Imean, I am pretty secure in my
relationship, so it really wouldn't botherme. Love a good backhanded compliment like

(02:51:03):
that. I'm secure unlike you fucksright, right, Ah, I'm not
in I don't have any communication withany of my exes and really neither does
he. So but in the eventthat you found out he did, how

(02:51:26):
would that be Because as far aswe all know, as far as we
all know, y'all's kids are justy'all's kids. He ain't got any other
ones out there, right, Sothat argument of me saying, you know,
unless there's kids involved, you shouldbe talking to him. So let's
just say, you know, he'slike, hey, grab my phone whatever,
or you see it light up andit's one of his exes that's messaging

(02:51:48):
him, and he ain't got kidsinvolved, right, Where do you stand
on that? Yeah? Who isthis? I wouldn't even know if it
was an ex you know, yeah, I'd be like why it would be
a female that you didn't whose nameyou didn't recognize, right, you know,
because I'm sure you know all ofhis female friends. And even then

(02:52:11):
sometimes it's like, you know,why is this person calling? Either way?
Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that'sa hard and fast now because even
if when the with the parents thing, like you have a kid with,
it has to be a clear line. Absolutely, there shouldn't he shouldn't be
a dance. And even with that, you don't know what the other person's
gonna do, right right, youdon't want her intention? Why does she

(02:52:33):
feel comfortable saying that so to me? Like danger Will Robinson? For sure?
Yeah? I agree, gs determination? Okay, last one sharing your
drink or giving another girl your itemof clothing, whether it's like a hoodie,
yeah, or sharing a drink?Sharing a drink, are they choking?

(02:52:58):
Do they need some more? Like? Well? No, see I
would You're a goddamn savior, right, like fuck, I don't think that
sharing a drink will just start withthat one. I don't think sharing a
drink is that big of a deal. I wouldn't consider micro cheating. Hey,
Lindsay trying this margarita that I justgot something to that effect, right,

(02:53:18):
Oh no, you're just trying toget a drunk ause you fucker.
Whatever. No, it's a goodfucking drink. Whatever. Here, take
a sip, you like you mightwant to buy one, you know.
Now, if it was like,hey, you know, here's my doctor
pepper, that's a little different unlessthey come out and let's share a doctor
pepper. And I'm just using Lindsayhere as the example here, if I

(02:53:39):
Linday's like, I'm thirsty as ship, we'll hear you want some water.
You know you won't here have adrink of my coke, just to you
know, because that's what a friendthing does. You know, I don't
share my drinks with any friends,even the dudes. I don't mind.
I don't mind at all whatsoever.I don't mind. Fuck. You know
how many times we've passed a bottlearound? You know what I'm saying.
So drinks isn't a problem. No, he isn't the problem with me now

(02:54:03):
here. Here's here's here's the otherside of that cooling. You're at the
bar, some random broad fucking sittingnext to you, and you're like,
this margarita is delicious. Try this. That's totally fucking different because you don't
even know this person. I guess, so, I guess it depends on
how close the relationship is with thatopposite sex is. Whether it, you

(02:54:26):
know, determines whether or not it'smicro cheating or not. You wouldn't share
a drink with a stranger, yeah, sharing what the at the bar?
I would for one reason, becauseyou're trying to fuck them exactly right,
right, and put my other strawin her mouth. When I'm thinking about
these things, I'm not thinking aboutme doing them. I'm thinking about if

(02:54:46):
it was my wife and somebody doinglike it was doing it to them,
right, you know what I'm saying. And so the idea and this guy
says it was my thought too,that you want to share saliva with another
individual. It's fucking weird to me, right, right. And we just
shared a drink the other day,but I took one drink handed to her
and I was done. I wasnever planning to have the whole cocktail,

(02:55:07):
right, And so I feel likethat's different. I don't know, may
or may not. Well, that'sthat's also goes back to the closeness of
the relationship of the person that you'resharing it with. If you have your
friend Ted. You know, mywife has this friend Ted and they that's
what they do is share cop Getthe fuck out here. I don't want
your goddamn slave in my mouth.I would share a drink with anybody in

(02:55:30):
this fucking building, not the buildingbuilding, but the floor that we're on.
You see what I'm saying. Anybodythat we work with, I would
share a drink with any one ofyou, no matter who it is.
You know, part time er wehad that was really weird. Oh yeah,
that one. Even then, eventhen, I'd be like, all
right, here's a little here andwe get a new straw or something like

(02:55:50):
that. But yeah, I stillwould. But again, I mean,
I've been here for over a decade, so I feel like I've earned that
right to be able to share abeverage with an anybody. What that makes
no sense? What does tenure haveto do with it? Because we've known
each other and we've been so close, we worked so close to together for
so long that our relationships go awayno germs or germs, or germs or

(02:56:11):
germs. But I'll be more wappt to share a fucking beverage with you
or with one of the sales ladiesout there, even fucking Lou the old
salesman. I'll share a drink withhim more so than the creepy, weird
part timer. Does that make sense? Because we didn't really know each other
so so, But if she wasa part timer for so many years and

(02:56:31):
she had been to several of theuh, let's just say Christmas parties back
when we had to have if shereceived tenure. Yeh, you would be
okay with that fucking weird'll be fine. She's just as dirty on day twenty
twenty two she has some day two. That's because you're germophobe. No,
I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, I think that's just your your your

(02:56:52):
thing against germs whatever. And Ithink that's you're thinking the tenure and getting
to know that means they're not dirty. No, No, people are still
fucking dirty. It's okay. Idon't mind. I don't mind. It's
not the dirtiness that bothers me.It's the how well do I fucking know
you? It's like alcohol kills anyway. But what is knowing you achieve?
Well? What comfort does that giveyou by knowing them? Because I've known
you, We've got a bond andthere's a relationship there. There's not this

(02:57:15):
person here that I've seen like maybetwice. We're just using part timer for
the example here. I've only seenthem like maybe twice in my entire time
i've been here. So I don'tfucking know you. And if you really
wanted to, I mean, yeah, here's a fucking drink, I guess,
But again, i'd be switching straws. You know, at that point,
it's still sharing a drink because you'resharing a liquid. You're you're also

(02:57:39):
you know, yeah, we're sharingsharing salva. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I mean Iwould, but I mean it'd be like,
okay, that was that was alittle weird, more so than it
would be if it was LENSI oranybody else that worked. What about you,
Lindy, No, I'm not.I'm not sharing a drink with just
anyone. I would share a drinkwith Gimpie, Yeah you would, you

(02:58:00):
that doesn't bother me. A friend, fine, but I'm not sharing a
drink with a stranger, right andthe whole or sharing clothes thing, you
No, I'm not sharing clothes.You go to see your husband at work
and the front desk girl is wearingyour husband's hoodie, Yeah that would set

(02:58:22):
you off. Yeah fucking a would. Yeah it wouldn't mean for you,
Yeah it might yeah yeah probably.But if we're in here and it's chili
and Lindsay's you know, fucking doesn'thave a hoodie or that rated up bullshit
you have over there already, I'dbeen like, here, take mine,
Yeah, it's okay, nod.I would give her a hoodie. Yeah,

(02:58:45):
she ain't getting my hoodie, theone I'm wearing that has my smell
on it. Right, Okay,that's fucking weird. Yeah yeah, giving
you the shirt off my back.But you know, but you know what,
Honestly, I could see my husbandbeing like, here, you can
wear my hoodie. Like I couldsee him doing that if someone was cold
at his Here is the X factor? Would he do it with a guy?
Right? Yes, I don't knowhe would. He's done it.

(02:59:09):
Your husband's he has because I havelike his buddy Ryan that works with him.
He has come to the house andbut here's your hood back, like
tak taking it off and giveing itto him. Now he's just being a
dick like wash it before you're returning, man, Right, No, I

(02:59:31):
had to do it, like I'mlike, just throw it in the laundry.
Yeah. Uh, I am completelyokay with the closeness rule you're implying
with tasting like, oh my god, taste, how shitty this I p
A is right? Or this youknow mango, whatever the fuck that thing
was. But in terms of youand I, let's get one margarita and

(02:59:52):
share it. Get that out ofhere. My favorite thing to do at
the bars when when you know,because pants come up all the time,
they're like, hey man, youwant to do a shot? I'd be
like, fuck, yeah, itis mostly guys, right, and I
do this for an uncomfortable thing,but it's hilarious to see the bartender space.
I say, I will take oneshot of jack two straws. Yeah,
that's hilarious. Yeah, we'll doit together. Yeah. You know

(03:00:16):
when two guys are going out agirl and you're like, that's way too
Honestly, what is that drink thatused to be I'm sure they still make
it at hard rock. It's thatone giant fish drink that you share with
like six people exactly that is,and then you drink it all by your
fucking self. Watched her do it. It is terrifying when you watch a

(03:00:41):
woman completely drink a fishbail, yougo, oh fuck, God, damn
it, I'm not drinking what Ido right, all right, we got
to take a break, if youknow. If that makes sure you get
him to go to the contest pageor you can do it. Go to
the contest page. Kmod dot comtoast our troops for Shinerbach and Mondo's a
Itinian restaurant in heart of brooks Side. That was fun, covered a lot

(03:01:05):
of good topics. Guys, havea fantastic week. Thanks so much for
listening to us, and we'll talksoon, baby,

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