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March 6, 2025 33 mins

Get ready to glow up this season! Andrea Lavinthal, People's Special Projects Director, is back with your Spring and Summer fashion playbook. We're talking trending looks, color palettes you need in your closet, and how to style 'em. And, of course, she's shouting out her fave beauty and skincare brands run by women.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, fam Today, on the bright side, bubbleskirts are back,
butter yellow is the new neutral, and boho chic is
making a triumphant return. We are talking all things fashion
and beauty with People Magazine Special Projects Director our friend
Andrea Lavienthal, and she's here to help us step confidently
into a new season and guide us toward the most
incredible women own brands that deserve a prime spot in

(00:24):
our wardrobes. It's Thursday, March sixth I'm Simone Voice, and
this is the bright side from Hello Sunshine. All right, besties,
I am sending warm, cozy, sunshiny vibes to any of
you out there who are still dealing with that nasty
winter weather.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But here's the bright side.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Pretty soon, it's going to be time to put away
those cozy sweaters, tuck those boots in the attic, and
whip out that summer wardrobe from the back of the closet.
And as the seasons change, so do the beauty and
fashion trends. So today we're going to give you a
sneak peak at all the spring and summer trends with
an expert that we love and adore. People's Special Projects

(01:05):
Director Andrea Labenthal. So not only will she share with
us what's hot this season, what the data are telling
us about fashion trends, she'll also be able to help
us support women owned businesses. But before we bring in Andrea,
we are doing something a little different for today's show.
Everyone's favorite showrunner and Emmy winning producer, Tim Ballizola is
here filling in for Danielle today.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Tim, Welcome back to the bright Side.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, thanks so much for the invitation.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I will tell you I had the opportunity to talk
to Andrea earlier this week, and I cannot wait for
all of our listeners to get all the amazing information
that she has to share with us on summer trends, beauty,
fashion gadgets, the whole thing. As I was talking to Andrea,
I was thinking just about style in general. How would
you describe your personal style at large?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It definitely changes on the age and stage that I'm
in in my life right now. I would say it's
very androgynous. It's very inspired by masculine silhouettes from like
the nineteen seventies. I love a suit, I love a tie,
I love a bomber jacket.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's where I'm at right now.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's so hot. I love that, Simone.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I will say, I know our listeners can't see you
every day, but every time I see you, you have
such an incredible fit. I know a lot of people
vollu you on social media. You always look so fly.
I'm always very impressed with you.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So that's so kind.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh no, I mean it's sincerely.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I also think that you have such an incredible way
of feeling like you are part of what's going on
but also making in your own and I think it
takes a really unique sensibility to be able to pull
that off really well. Because I will say I have
a very classic style because I feel like anytime I
go too far towards a trend, I look like an

(02:51):
insane person.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I look like a clown.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
So I have to like stay a little bit more classic,
a little bit more in that like collegiate athletic moment.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
And that's a good fit for my body.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Tim has the build of a model. He's being very
humble right now. Tim can pull off anything, you know.
Whenever I think of you and your personal style, I
always think of Connie Chung and how she called you
out for having a ratty ass collar on your expensive shirt,
but she didn't care because the distressing was distressing to her.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Simon, I cannot love you more for trolling me in
this moment, because.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I honestly, i'd tell you I was. I was like, oh,
I put on something like.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Really fun, like really trendy, kind of like cool and edgy.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
You know, we're on a podcast with Connie Chung.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
And she immediately thought that in some way I was
almost disrespecting her for wearing something that looks so afraid.
So I guess there's a time and place for everything,
right exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, I think it's time to get to our guest today.
Andrew Lavinhal is always on the pulse of it all,
People's Special Projects director, and she's here to break it
all down for us right now. So let's bring her in. Andrea,
welcome back to the bright Side.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Thank you for having me. I love having you here.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, Tim and I were just talking about our own
personal style, and so before we give everyone the rundown
of all the upcoming trends, how would you describe your
personal style? I'm so glad you asked, because I did
give this a lot of thought and I came up
with like best dressed mom at book club. I love academic.
It's a little bit academic, little preppy. No, she's not academic,

(04:32):
but she lives in the suburbs.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And okay, she carries a book in her.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Purse, but she goes to book club.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
She's a good time because you guys know, book club
is like hang and have some cocktails and talk about
your life and your trauma's club. But you want to
look cute because like you're with your girls, and that's
who you look cute for. So because of what I
do and my interest in fashion and all that stuff,
I'm always like wearing something that someone in book club
is like, should I be wearing that?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Generally speaking, would you say that you embraced trends wholeheartedly?
Are you an early adopter of trends or are you
more likely to try to maintain your own sense of
style and authenticity through your clothing.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think I.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Try and hold out as long as I can. Like, yeah,
I'm very proud to say I did not buy mesh
flats last year because I did not stand by their longevity,
both in construction and in like the trends itself. And
now I'm being tormented because I'm seeing mesh flats online
shopping and I'm like, no, guys, no, we weren't supposed

(05:35):
to bring it back. It was a one season thing
that I rejected. This was last summer, y'all. Yeah, So
feeling like it, I've survived, but I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's like Snapchat for me.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I never got on and I wanted to be like, see,
I was good and now I don't know. So sometimes
I miss the trends because I think it's going to
be very short lived, it's not worth investing in. And
sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Totally.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, speaking of trends, you know, there's a lot of
lists out there predicting what's going to be in for
spring and summer, and you know, what I'm seeing is
that there's a lot of versions of boho chic.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Is going to be in. Is that what you're seeing
as well?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Absolutely, I was going to say the list we come
up with here is the correct one. Okay, Yeah, are
a lot of lists, but boho chic is like everywhere.
And it's funny because like all things in fashion, it's cyclical,
Like if you think back to the early aughts, you know,
the whole Sienna Miller and Kate Moss and early Coachella.

(06:33):
That's boho chic and the dresses over the genes and
it's back and you can thank the new creative director
at Chloe for that. It's it originated on the runway.
And so that you think this all started from that
one specific runway, I do. I kind of think that
it had its moment. It was so popular, it kind
of went away and there was like the clean girl

(06:53):
aesthetic and sporting and all these other things. And then
you see this like one runway show and this, you know,
the Chloe Your Runway show. It's just sort of defined
it and everybody got excited and started to see the
ruffles and the knee high boots and the floppy hats
and they were like.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
And then other designers Chloe's not the only one, but
like Saint Laurent started putting out some really cool boho
chic stuff and it feels fresh again. This reminds me
of the Mumford and Sons Lumineers era.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yes, right, it's.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Like taking me back to that, which is so interesting
because if you're chronically online like me, if you go
on TikTok Right now, there's a lot of talk about
millennial trends and idiosyncrasies that we can now like look
back at and laugh laugh about them. So it's really
funny that this this is kind of like coming back
into the zeitgeist. It's just nothing's nothing's new, you know,

(07:51):
but it comes in like a fresh what feels new.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
A reinvented.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, so I feel like we were stuck in the nineties,
yes for a minute. And now do you think we've
transitioned into that early two thousands era?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
People are discovering It's like the TikTok generation is like, wait,
what was that?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
They didn't see it the first time, so to them,
it's fresh. And because we all now listen to what
they tell us, which is why I'm wearing cruise socks
right now, right, we're like, okay, fine, if you guys
think it's fresh and cool, here we are.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Let's do it again totally. How are we?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
How are we doing boho chic differently this time?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Because I would imagine it's not going to be like
a one to one repeat of what we were seeing
in the early aughts. Well, personally, you will not be
seeing me wear dress over jeans, which is something There
are photographs of me from the early aughts wearing that
look like I would do a strapless kind of flowy
empire waste dress over a pair of like flare like jeans.

(08:50):
I don't know what like woodstock I thought I was
going to or what musician I thought I was inspiring,
But that was my vibe, because that's what it was.
I think you're going to see you are going to
see a lot of the ruffled blouses, and I do
think you'll see more people doing the mini skirt with
the high boots. But I think a lot of this
is also festival where yes, right, like it's the time

(09:11):
and place. I don't know that I'm wearing that, like
to the office or to book club, if you will.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, And when we think about incorporating some of this boho,
you know, I think both of you sort of are.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Like, oh my god, boho.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
But say your fit is not Boho traditionally, your style,
aesthetache is not. How can you start to incorporate some
of those that feel that style, that vibe while still
maintaining your own style integrity.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I think there's like two different ways to go about
the trends in general, whether it's Boho or something else,
you could either pretend it doesn't exist because it's a trend. Honestly,
you don't have to like jump in or out if
you need to like buy all new stuff to get
in on the trends. If nothing in your existing wardrobe
supports the trend, it's kind of like what's the point.

(10:00):
So then it's a costume. So if you don't already
maybe have somewhat of a boho vibe or some pieces
already in your closet that support it to really want
to like make yourself over and then be that girl. Right,
So that's kind of how I look at it. Kendrick
Lamar was already leaning into the boho trend with his
Flair jeans. I'm wearing Flair jeans today. Everyone influences me everything.

(10:23):
I have been influenced by Kendrick for sure. Okay, So
in addition to Boho chic, I'm hearing that trends that
start with the letter B are going to be big
this season. Give me some other examples. We were too.
I mean, this is like brought to you by the
letter B. This season, the number one is barn jacket. Okay,
so we have barn jacket of barn jacket, think of

(10:45):
those like tan or baize jackets, and then they have
the contrasting brown collar and they actually are like from
people who work in barns and around barns, like the
car cards.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
And they're a little like arsized, right.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, Ralph Lauren equestrian vibes like I have a country
house with some chickens, Like I don't deal with them,
but like I'll take a picture with them. So the
row in Prada, like you know, this just happens all
of a sudden. They're like inspired by barn ware and
they put barn jackets on the runway. And then Haley

(11:21):
Bieber patron scene of trends.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
You know, we all love her style.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
She wore the Prata one on Valentine's Day with a
knee high boot and that was it. Guys, It's game
over there everywhere.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Holding her air one smoothie everywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
You cannot toss your purse without hitting a girl at
a barn jacket right now.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's what denhim jackets have been.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So that would be like a replacement for a denim jacket.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Unfortunately, Yes, but don't get rid of your Dunham Jackettenham
jacket's a classic. I have sixteen different cuts and you know,
colors in my closet and they go in and out
depending on the year.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But I would say barn jackets into a jacket.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
You also mentioned bubble skirts, another bait, another bae.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Bubble skirts is a tough one. Bubble hems. You know,
they have that like balloon shape with the volume. It's
like a bubble and you can literally think of like
an eighties prom dress. Reformations got the bubble minis and
they're very fun and they're very kind of flirty and feminine.
I think that bubble hem ship sales for me Andrea.

(12:23):
Doesn't this feel like an evolution of ballerinicor like we
saw that balet plot. Yeah, we saw a lot of
ballet flats over the past like six months year, and
a bubble skirt would look adorable with a nice ballet
flat and your barn jacket. By the way, you throw
a barn jacket over your bubble skirt, and now you're
hitting two trends and you're kind of counteracting the girliness

(12:45):
of the bubble skirt with the cool, laid back vibe
of your barn jacket. I believe in the power of boundaries,
you guys, So I'm going to set a boundary here
with bubble skirts. I don't mind a bubble dress.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think they.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I need that continuity, you know, and you need the
you need the balance of like a loose fitting or
larger silhouette on the bottom with a tight fitting like
you know, sucked in top like lead ard vibes that
I could get behind.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Would you have ever rocked that bubble skirt style, simone.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I probably did.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Gosh, if I went back through the archives, like I
wore some crazy stuff. I thought I was Rihanna at
one point and like whatever she was, Like, I wore
like a Tutuo dress out to the club at one.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Point, like a Carrie Bradshaw moment.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I thought I was Blossom. I wore like my Mitzvah.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Whole time that era was all bubble skirts and hats
and costumes. So you know, I wish I had that
blind confidence again, right, which my parents gave me boundaries
fashion wise, but instead they let me express myself, which
was really neat.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Tim knows this.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I am obsessed with this site called data, but make
a fashion yeactually a content creator who really provides this
like analytical background behind the trends that we're seeing in fashion.
And so this creator she predicts trends by sourcing retail data.
And there are a few things that stood out to
me that I wanted to run by you Andrea. So

(14:09):
just last week data but make it Fashion reported an
eighteen percent jump in black nail polish. I actually, I
am such a huge fan of black nail polish. Are
you seeing this out in the wild? I had not
been seeing black nail polished in the wilds, especially heading
into spring. But at the same time, I feel like
the world is scary, and blacknail polish like sometimes you
get the manicure that reflects how you're feeling, and like

(14:32):
we are in a transitional time, so perhaps black nails
feels right. Also surprising is a one hundred and eighty
eight percent jump in the color baby blue since the Grammys.
Well we know why, Sabrina Carpenter right absolutely. I mean
it's like that is her color, that is now her
signature shade. I think you probably have to ask her

(14:52):
permission if you're going to wear it, because she she
owns it. I mean, it's not a common color you
see on the red carpet. She wore it in such
a cool it was like retro but fresh and sexy
but elegant.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
She did all the things.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, and Benson Boone too with that jem.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Oh yes, his jumpsuit.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
But yeah, baby blue.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I mean it does feel springy, right, like you think
of Easter eggs and I think of Easter candy.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
What other colors are you saying?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Another bee? Butter yellow, guys, butter yellows everywhere, everywhere? And this,
I like it.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
This makes more sense to me than the blacknail pole check.
I really do want to dig into where the blacknail
polish is coming from, because it's coming from somewhere.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
But yellow, it's a mood booster.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
And if you do that muted soft yellow, not like
a bright yellow, it's almost like a neutral. So you
can wear it. You don't have to like you shouldn't
wear it. I don't think with other pastels. I think
you wear it with some chocolate browns or some grays
or some beiges and you treat it like a neutral
and it's really pretty.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh that's smart.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I'm having this like Devilawares product moment where Miranda Priestley
goes floors first Spring, ground breaking, right.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
My friend wore a butter yellow dress to our friend's
wedding recently. It was so gorgeous. It's so gorgeous, it's
so elegant. Whatever I think whenever I think of butter yellow,
I always think of Kate Hudson's How to Lose a Guy.
That's the core memory. It's a Dora Diamonds. Yes, it's
a great dress. And another Sabrina Carpenter. I mean she

(16:25):
wore that dressed.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
You were a version of it. So we should just.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Be looking directly at Sabrina Carpenter right now. She has
her finger on the pulse.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
And I love the way that you talk about thinking
about that as a neutral, because I think some people
would think that could be the accent.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
But if you incorporated the opposite, the kre freaks out.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
My butter yellow.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
It's soft, it's unassuming, it's not here to hurt you,
and you can treat it, pretend it's like cream.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Just wear a butter yellow shirt.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And then put the same button down or whatever you
would put over a cream color one, and you'll be
shocked at how versatile it really is.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Back in a Moment with Andrea Labnhal.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Okay, let's talk beauty makeup. What are you seeing in
terms of makeup trends.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
One of the things that's really an easy and fun
trend is glass skin sticks. So glass skin has been
trending for a while. It's just basically means that your
skin is so hydrated and healthy and smooth and gorgeous.
It has the reflectiveness of glass. And it came from
k Beauty. Korean beauty. None of us have the time

(17:40):
to spend with our twelve step skincare routine to get
glass skin. So what happened The brands were like, fine,
will help you out. We're going to invent these glass
skin sticks that have like skincare ingredients, but like they're
kind of like a highlighter and if you put it
on your cheekbones, you can build up how much glassiness
you And I kind of like that. Loreal has one

(18:02):
Peach and Lily Glossy I has a great one, and
they're kind of no brainer.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, same because I have there's a GLOSSI of product
that I like that gives me just like a little
bit of a glow and.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
It's nice because it's like they usually like moisturize. I
have some kind of moisturize ingredient and you put it
on like the high points, you know, your your cheekbones,
you put on your brow bone, and they actually do
add a nice reflective element, but without the shimmer too
much shimmer or like color.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's just to get that glassiness.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, so I like those.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I actually love that we're moving away from that super
dried up matte makeup look and it more into like glowy,
even like greasy, you know what I mean. Like I
am like make me doy.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I slather on squalen oil and like, I love
that it makes my skin so like like you were saying,
like reflective and juicy, and it's it's very forgiving as
we get into our.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ripe older years.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't think that like the kind of matt or
heavy contoured glam translates as much in real life. It's
cool for editorial or on Instagram or the red carpet,
but for the rest of us, like you really just
want your skin to look nice and healthy. And Chloe
another this is more of a product trends again, but
it's a fun one. Hair fragrances. Everyone is launching a

(19:23):
hair fragrance, not something you knew you needed, but once
you start using it, you're kind of like, I love
a hair fragrance. You know the hair hand sanitizer brand
touch Land. They just launched body and hair miss that
are like delicious smelling a trust to May just launched
a beautiful one. You'd be surprised if you google hair
fragrance how many brands have made one this in the

(19:46):
last like six months.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
They're very popular.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
That's incredible. And will a hair fragrance conflict with your
own it's.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
A great question. Fragrances like high I would make sure
it's complementary. So the thing about hair fragrances that's good is,
first of all, they're less expensive than traditional fragrance because
they have they're they're less concentrated. There's they don't have
the alcohol content because otherwise that would dry out your hair.
So it's sort of like, if you want to test
out a sense without buying the real thing, you can

(20:15):
buy the hair fragrance and they're meant to be more,
in my opinion, as like a touch up, a last step.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
If you will.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I want a sound tall base, just bathe me in
Son Tall every nothing smells better. I want to smell
like a fancy hotel.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yes, that's how I want to smell. That's how I
want my house to a.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Rich hotel that you cannot afford, five star hotel.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Fragrance.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I love just being smacked in the face with that
fragrance when you walk in the lobby.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
It's so you're like, I'm getting what I paid for exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I also, yes, it smells expensive.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
And here I also love all the fragrance.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh yeah, very nice.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah that feels like if you if a place has
those in the bathroom. Again, I feel like, fine, you
can mark up the price of my omelet, or you have.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Nice hands soap. You spend forty dollars on soap, I'll
beat an electra for eggs. Right.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Also, such a great gift, like just like oh, hand
soap ASoP, hand soap, such a great gift. Yes, books,
I would never spend it on like my soap necessarily.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
But like for someone else.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, I do that a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
In my house.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
In the guest bathroom, you will find the most expensive soap.
In the rest of our bathrooms you will find soft
soap for CBSKED but LD some dial as far as
anyone out there knows, we use forty five dollars hand
soap all day, every day in every bathroom.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, and that's what I want people to know about me.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I'm also obsessed with sunscreen. And I just saw you
on the Today Show talking about the evolution of sunscreen.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Can you tell us what's new?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Sunscreen's tough because you have to wear it no matter what,
and it's just not the sexiest thing, right, Like people
always complain that it feels sticky, or it's heavy, or
they don't like the white cast, or you know, it
just doesn't feel sensorially like a good step, a fun step.
And whenever it's something you have to do or have
to wear, all of a sudden, it becomes like I

(22:09):
don't want to do it. So these k beauty brands,
and the one that people love is the Beauty of Josion,
and it's an affordable one. By the way, these sunscreens
are so silky and so lightweight. They're like a pleasure
to put on your face. It's like they trick you
into doing something good for yourself because they make it

(22:29):
feel good and look good on your skin. And the
one that I put on the today's show from them
is they're brand new tinted because I'm all like, if
you can add in one more step for me and
not only protect my skin and make it look nice
and hydrated, but also even it out, I'm here.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Do they have them in different finishes, like you know
you talked about like the glasstick.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Did they have them in mad or so that brand?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Not necessarily?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But what's also great right now about the worlds of
sunscreen is like, if you want to glow, you know,
like Supergoop, make it a glowstick that gives you glass
skin basically with sunscreen. But if you want a Matt
finish you can find that a million times over as well.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
There's just so many.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
More formats, but these k beauty ones are just like
taking over and then one last thing. So in terms
of beauty trends, I don't know if you guys saw it,
but Billy Eyelish this was like a few months ago,
did a get Ready with Me on TikTok where she
did her own makeup for her show and lined her
eyes all the way around, and it was like, overnight,

(23:33):
let's wear eyeliner again. Because for a while, the clean
girl aesthetic didn't really like lend itself to eyeliner. There
wasn't a lot of focus on makeup. It was more
about the skin and the hair slicks back. And now
it's like, thank you Billy for bringing back eyeliner because
I love an eyeliner.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I need it.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
And can you wear like a thick eyeliner with this
boho aesthetic?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Wow? Tim, that's a hard one, honestly.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, yes, you could do whatever you want. Does
the vibe match?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, That's the thing, Like, if you already lean towards
a boho vibe, boho makes sense. But if you were
like not, and you have to rethink your hair, your makeup,
your shoes, your bag, your husband, like all of it.
Don't do the trends. It's too much.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So when we think about beauty products, I'm always thinking
of how I can amplify women owned brands, especially considering
that female founded companies only receive roughly two percent of
funding from venture capital firms.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I have been loving Tower twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm a Tower twenty eight girl, love yeah and tinted.
My friend Ray Dawn her Balleton company. She does like
cleansers that like really remove all your makeup with like
shade butter, super moisturizing cleansers. What are some of what
are some of the female founded beauty companies that are

(25:11):
in your rotation right now? Well, this is why I
love working in beauty because there's so many of them.
The good news is this is a tough question because
there's so many of them in beauty. So here are
my top three for makeup, say Beauty Saie. I've loved
this brand since it found it about like six years ago.

(25:31):
The founder is incredibly intentional about what she launches, and
not only are the products great, they're all clean, clean ingredients,
sustainable packaging, and even the way the office runs. The
business runs is with sustainability in minds. Like they're hardcore
about it. So it's not just to put it on
their packaging and make it part of their marketing. It's

(25:53):
like their DNA. So I appreciate that. There's another line
for haircare, Roseroz from Mara Rosac. She's a celebrity hairstylist.
When she launched her products, I was like, excellent, Like,
we do have a lot of brands, but when it's
someone like that, You're like, I want to see what
you're going to do, and she did a great job.
Her stuff is also made with clean ingredients. It smells

(26:17):
so good, and let's be honest, at the end of
the day, with hair care, it's all about the smell.
If it doesn't smell good, what's the point. So then
you have to wear a lot of hair bray brants.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yes, I want to be I want to be in
an herbal Essence commercial.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Right, you want to feel something when you smell that shampoo,
and her stuff smells so good and she's just got
really cool products.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I used her thickening.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
It's like a texturizing spray blows on my hair today
and I was like, this is good.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
And then my last one.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
There's a skincare brand, small and Newish from an esthetician
named Sophie Patt, and she focuses on acnic skin. Breakouts
are her specialty and it doesn't matter if you are
in your twenties or your forties. Are all cursed with breakouts.
So she really has taken that on in a very

(27:06):
thoughtful way. Her products are awesome, So those are my
top three. Also have to give a shout out to
Selena Gomez's rare beauty. Her blushes, her powder, her pinch. Yeah,
they're beautiful. I'm also curious about gadgets. I keep seeing
things for like red light therapies and such. What's your
take on beauty gadgets? My take is, if you have

(27:28):
small children in the house, do not open your bedroom
door while you're wearing one of the adible lector masks
with the red light. There's not enough therapy. Okay, your
kids are sleeping with the lights on for taking, They're like,
Mommy had a nightmare, and then you come in and
you're wearing the red light mask and they're like, ah,
like it's terrible. So here's what I always say, because

(27:49):
this is probably the question I get the most right now,
is like do I need to be using one of
those things? And I know what they're talking they're talking about,
like the mask or the wand I mean the answer is, maybe,
are you willing to commit to every night a minimum
of fifteen minutes every night in the beginning for the
first at least three to six months, because that's usually

(28:10):
what it takes to see an actual result. It's not
that they don't work, it's that you actually have to
use them for them to work. And most of us
put it next to the bed and we hope that
by having it close to us.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Somehow there's moss. Right.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, So I have one of the more expensive like
this one's like used on all the celebrities, and honestly,
it sits there a lot, and I forget that I
have it, and I forget to use it, and then
I'll use it once and be like I'm stunning, like
it did its shop look at me. But the truth
is it's not going to move the needle if you
don't really stick to it.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
I think that's so interesting because they definitely promise a
more instant result. You to think about three to six months.
That's an investment.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
There's no such thing as an instant result from some
thing like that unless you're doing it with a dirm
or it has to be a medical grade.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's my thing.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I'm like naturally skeptical of any of these consumer grade
cosmetic gadgets or what have you, because we're often getting
the water down version of what you gut in the
dermatologist's office. I'd much rather just pay more money to
get the more effective.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Potent treatment.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
And this is a tough one because you don't want
to tell people to just spend money, but if it
makes you happy, if it encourages you to spend some
more time taking care of your skin while you're watching
white Lotus right, Like, there is something very relaxing about
putting your salum and your moisturizer on, and mine is
like a wand and I just sit there like a
weird zombie moving it around my face. So if it's

(29:45):
like part of your self care routine and it makes
you feel good, by all.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Means do it.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
They do temporarily boost circulation, so you are going to
get a little bit of like a nice glow immediately
after using them. But the long term, the actual in
building all the things that they say they're going to do,
it's like, yeah, you got to use it. Though a
lot fair body has a lot of consumer grade products
that deliver professional results at least, like that's what I'm

(30:12):
hearing from a lot of people who are using them.
I like the idea of buying it from a company
that just feels a bit more like rooted in science
or research or performance, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Vibes like don't go off the vibes no, and don't
go off like TikTok shop, like, make sure it's coming
from a reputable company that has like proven their.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Results actually work. Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Finally, just bringing things back full circle to where we
started this conversation in terms of trends that we can
all keep an eye out for this year.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
No fit is complete without the right bag. What are
you liking for bags this season?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Andrea, Well, what's so funny is like there are a
ton of like bag trends right now, Like the big
oversized Swede bag is one, and you'll see a lot
of brands like even Gap has an amazing one, Like
you can get them at all different price points. But
the trend that I'm like having the most fun with
enjoying is people's bag charms, so like accessories for their accessories.

(31:12):
I don't know if you guys have seen this yet
in the wild, you will.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
My kids leave for school every day with like all
these charms flying off their backpack, right.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't know why they want all this, but they do.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And now I'm seeing grown women and men adding little
bag charms, and you can get them from like high
fashion companies like Fendi, Coach Stelle, McCartney, where you could
go to Clare's and it's a way to personalize your bag.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
It's kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
We all could use a little bit more fun and
whimsy and our sad lives with our blacknail polish.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I want to hate it because it's like, what are
we twelve, But at the same time, I'm like, put
some cherries on your bag.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And have a goodness. Is the rebrand of the rabbit foot.
Let's just be honest.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Rabbit foot.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
This is just if you grew up in the eighties
and nineties you had a fuzzy little rabbit foot in
all the colors of the rainbow that you would like
hang on your backpack. I'm telling you, though, be on
the lookout for bad charms and like some of the
really like high fashion, like a fashion maet. You see
someone with like a tiny.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Bag on their bigger bag.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I myself don't own a bag charm, but like I
do support others who that's so funny.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
My nephews who are like you know, eight and ten
were doing that with their crocs. They had these little
It's like, it's not enough.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
To have the bag, you now need the accessories for
the accessory and like that's consumerism people.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Totally, but it seems like it's a nice, easy way
to refresh a.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Bag without having to go buy an entire new one.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's very tempting.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I have seen some really cute coach charms and I'm like,
maybe I do need a little robot hanging from my births.
Maybe that's the secrets of happiness. It wasn't the probiotics, it's.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
The bag charm.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, speaking of charm, Andrea, thank you so much for
joining us.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
As always, it's my pleasure.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I cannot wait to try that new sunscreen. I'm going
to get it today and get a backtarm. Yeah, yeah, totally.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Andrea Lavinthal is People Magazine Special Projects director and tomorrow besties,
we're popping off, but we do have something real special planned,
so we'll see you then.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Keep looking on the bright side, y'all,
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