October 7, 2024 • 33 mins
The iconic “Beverly Hills: 90210” star explains her empowering mantra of "I choose me," and dives into her journey through marriage, divorce, motherhood, and self-discovery. Jennie shares her insights on aging, the pressure of societal expectations, and the importance of self-love. Plus, the complicated choice of the nuptial name change.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today on the bright Side, Beverly
Hill's nine oh two one oh star and podcast hosts
Jenny Garth is here with us. She's talking about how
she's navigated a very public divorce and co parenting, plus
how a final line of dialogue from nine oh two
one oh still rings truer than ever.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's Monday, October seventh.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the
bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we
come together to share women's stories, to laugh, learn and
brighten your day.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Simone, you know what day it is. Today is On
my Mind Monday, our chance to talk about the things
that we've read or seen over the weekend that give
us a fresh perspective. Can I come at you with mine? Please? Okay?
I read this great essay by Kelly Vaughan where she
talks about deciding if she's going to take her husband's
last name. So she asked friends for their thoughts, but
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she still wasn't sure what felt right for her. She
ends up taking his legal last name, but kept her
maiden name professionally. Okay, So then she gets her new
Social Security card, and she said when she looked at it,
she was shocked and it made her realize her maiden
name meant more to her than she actually even thought.
So she changed it back, and once her name was restored,
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she said she felt whole again. The reason I'm sharing
this today is this is something I've thought about a lot.
Even when I go to bachelorette parties, I usually bring
this topic up. I ask all the girls there, all
the women, how they feel about taking their husband's last name,
and it's usually a point of debate because everybody feels
differently about it. How do you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, it's really funny that this is your on my
mind Monday, because I just came from a wedding and
this topic came up. And you're right, everyone has strong
feelings about it. Listen. I owe want to stay away
from speaking too broadly about like what women should do. However,
I personally have very strong feelings about this. I did
not change my name. My maiden name is Boyce. I'm
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keeping it partly because I spent a very long time
building up my career, and my career happens to be public.
So people, if you've ever seen my work, it's you know,
you've seen it under the name Simone Boyce. And the
idea of changing my last name felt like to some
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degree I would be undermining my professional achievements. And I
also think that I saw this modeled by my mom
because my mom was an actor in the eighties and
her maiden name was John's and she kept her maiden
name in her work. So I kind of had that
example for me when I was growing up. But my
biggest problem with this is the history of it. The
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history of name change is rooted in the idea that women,
at one point in time legally became the possession of
a man. And I mean this goes back to the
exchange of land and feudal territories and houses coming together
and forming alliances, and in that context, women were completely dehumanized.
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They were property. And so have times changed. Yes, we
are in a modern time where we do have the
right to vote, where we do have credit cards, and
I think we are recognized for our humanity more so
than women were back then. However, I think it's really
important to question the origins of these traditions, because, on
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the other hand, even in a modern context, all of
the burden, all of the invisible labor of changing your name,
it falls on the women. It falls on us to
spend hours at the DMB filling out paperwork, communicating with
the government who's notoriously impossible to communicate with, and husbands
don't have to do any of this. So tell me,
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I mean, is that really fair.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I think what's hard, though, is there's not a great
solution or other option, because I do like the idea
of feeling like a family unit, and you know, when
you get married, if you decide to do that and
you have children, then it is nice to all feel
like you have the same name. I think your kids
like when you go to the airport, they feel like
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a family unit. Not that that's necessary, but it's something
I think about. The problem is there's no real solution,
like do you hyphenate even if you keep your name,
which name do the kids take? I just feel like
we're in a time where we're questioning all of this
and there's no clear solution, which is why I think
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everybody keeps debating it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I actually think though, that millennials have gotten really creative
with this. I have a friend who combined her last
name with their husbands and they both took the new
last name.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I do like the idea of combining names. I actually
have a friend who lost her father at a young age,
and so she's the only child and so keeping the
family name alive was really important to her, and her
husband said, I'll take your last name. That's fine. I
think the meaning of the name is something that I
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think about. You know, I've actually asked this question to
Connie Chung. I asked it to you and our producer
Tim Offline. I said, what does it mean to be
a blank? Whatever your last name is? Because when I
think about my last name, I'm like, what does that
mean to be? My real last name is Willerman? Robey's
my middle name, and I'm like, what does it mean
to be a Willerman? And the first thing I thought
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was it means to be a free thinker. And I
think everybody has some association to that name, whether it's
associated with their parents, their grandparents, their the hardship, the
joy of their family. And it's more than a name.
It's memories, it's family values. This one's complicated for me. Yeah,
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you know what the good thing is in twenty twenty
four is women have a choice, and that's what feminism
is all about. It's about choice. So which whatever feels
right for you is the right choice. But speaking of identity,
we have somebody who thought about their identity a lot
as they moved through marriage and divorce. Jenny Garth is
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here with us today.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yes, you might remember her as Kelly Taylor from Beverly
Hills nine oh two one oh, the role that sky
rocketed her into fame. Jenny appeared on all ten seasons
of the show, which ran from nineteen ninety to two thousand.
It's hard to think about what TV would look like
today without the impact of nine oh two one oh.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
When I tell you I used to fake sick for
school to stay home and watch nine oh two one oh,
I am not lying. I loved that show. That was
like I love Saved by the Bell, and then I
discovered nine oh two one oh, and I thought I
have seasons to catch up on same Well.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
In twenty fourteen, Jenny Garth added author to her resume
with her memoir titled Deep from a Hollywood Blonde, and
now she's the host of her podcast I Choose Me,
where she interviews celebrities, friends and family members, including a
very powerful conversation with her ex husband Peter Fatchinelli.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
She also recently launched a clothing line called Me by
Jenny Garth, and she's entering a new decade her fifties,
so I can't wait to ask all about how she's
approaching this new chapter and the mantra that she lives by,
which is I Choose Me. Jenny Garth is joining us
right after the break Stay with us.
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Speaker 2 (07:56):
Jennie Garth, Welcome to the bright Side. Oh that's sound
so nice. We're so happy to have you. Simone and
I have been talking about this interview for quite some time.
And this mantra that you have, I Choose Me. I
didn't realize that it actually came from a line in
nine O two one zero, but you've really given it
new life. What did it mean to you then versus now?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I know it's so crazy, right that it's all it's
from the nineties, like it's from the OG Show. Yeah,
it was that moment when Kelly had to choose between
Brandon and Dylan and she was put on the spot
and she said, I can't choose either of you. I
choose myself. I choose me. And I didn't really understand
like the levity of that statement when I was twenty two.
(08:43):
Probably I just I didn't really get it until years
later when I started hearing it from fans that I
would meet, especially women who grew up watching it, and
they would be like, oh my gosh, that line I
choose me such an effect on me. I never knew
I could choose myself in moments like that, and I
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was like, wait, what, And it just started to make
sense on a different level for me, and I thought,
this message has to be brought back around. It has
to be amplified, because I was in a place where
I was like, what am I doing with my life?
I don't really enjoy like the whole rigamow of making
television or movies anymore. I don't like sitting around waiting,
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I don't like auditioning, I don't like waiting to be
rejected or accepted. So yeah, here I am. I have
a podcast called I Choose Me. I have a clothing
brand called Me. I'm coming out with a perfume called Me,
Like I'm going for it because I've always had so
much to share with people. I'm just not the right
way in and I'm just this is it, this is
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the moment for I choose me in every way.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm so curious how you choose yourself on a daily basis,
because in theory it sounds great, but the reality is
life happens. Like I'm a young mom of like two
little boys, you know, who are four and two, and
it's it's hard to choose me, just being completely honest.
And you know you have a very full life too,
(10:14):
You've got three beautiful kids. So how do you choose
yourself on a daily basis?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Like, what does that look like, Jenny? I mean there
were years where I was in the same position as you,
little kids underfoot, relying on me one hundred percent and
working full time and trying to keep a marriage alive
and trying to be a good sister and daughter, and
it was really hard. So to be truthful with you,
I now can go back and say, yeah, I was
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in the same boat. I didn't choose myself when I
was a young mom because I didn't know I could
and I didn't know I needed to. And so now
as my daughters have all grown up a little bit
and they meet me a little bit less, I started
having a little extra time on my hands and thinking
about things and having like ten minutes in the bathroom
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to myself, just taking those little opportunities. At first too,
I'm not going to do the dishes right now, because
right now is an opportunity for me to sit down
in journal, or sit down and read a book, or
just sit down and stare out the window. The dishes
will be there when I'm done, you know. So it
was just like little minute things like that for a
long time. That then, as I got more and more
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time and I was able to see the benefits of
that kind of self care and those choices, that I
was like, Okay, I need to work this more into
my daily schedule. So then I actually just start putting
it on my calendar, like and it's like it's an appointment.
I get up every morning at seven am and I
go to the gym and that's my hour to take
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care of my body physically and also you know, mentally,
and your world starts to open up about how you
can take more and more. I choose me moments. And
I was told this when I was all my life.
You can't really truly love others until you love yourself.
And I was like, oof, that's really lame. I you know, like, okay,
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I'll love myself in about two hours when I'm done
with this. But I realize now that it's so true,
Like you have a different presence about you when you
are taken care of by yourself. It rubs off on
the people around you and the people that work with you,
and the people in your home. In essence, choosing yourself
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is choosing the people that you love too.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, speaking of the people that you love, your daughter
Lola interviewed you on your podcast about turning fifty and
your next chapter. Danielle and I interviewed a woman who
runs this community called Glorious Broad's, and we have this
wide ranging conversation about growing older, and she says that
she called the fifties the fit fifties, like where you
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just have zero f's left to give. And I'm so
curious what your take on the fifties has been so far.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Definitely not fucket fifties, because I'm so intentionally choosing my health,
what I eat, and how I exercise. Like everything becomes
so much more important as you get older and you're
able to really prioritize your time and be selective about
what you want to spend your time on. And so
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I feel more intentional and more just collected and grounded,
and like, I have a vision for what I want
for my future, and I have a vision for what
I want to provide my grown up children with now,
what I want to be able to give them, And
so that drives me and fuels me to really stay
connected to what I want and my plan.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I think that when people talk about aging, there's this
pressure that's like assigned to them because now, all of
a sudden, there's expectations or criticism if they don't go
all in on the concept of like aging completely natural.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I'm dying to.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hear what you think about this, Like do you feel
pressure to not dye your hair or to dye your hair?
Like how do you think about all of it?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I have been under scrutiny my entire life and my
livelihood has been predicated on how I look. Yeah, and
that has really fucked me up. You guys, like I
think anybody that can imagine themselves in my position as
a young girl being the hot one on the show,
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or the pretty one of the blonde or the mill
for all the things as generate as you go through
the decades, like what it is that you represent to people,
what they remember from you, what they want to see
when they look at you, what they expect from you.
That has been an immense amount of pressure and something
I've never had the capacity to process and actually confront
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and deal with until now. It was a different kind
of mental pressure that goes really really deep into someone's psyche.
And it's hard to ever really talk about it or
acknowledge it because it seems so superficial and seems so
you know, there are much bigger problems.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, it's hard for people to think like, oh, I'm
so sorry you were so hot exactly like, oh, you're
you're sad, sad life, right, yeah, but you're almost in
jail in your own brain.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's how you process it all and think of it.
Because I'm my worst critic and I don't know if
other people feel this way or not. But like I
do read comments, I have to curb myself now. But
like I have read the comments and I do see
the hateful things that people say. Well, I don't know,
but like it does, Deke, it's old and you just
(15:48):
have to learn how to navigate it, which I have
done and I'm still doing. And also it's just I
think it goes back to that like loving yourself and
being able to go back and look at all that
you were dealt and then also to just look at
what all the things you have that you're grateful for,
and you just keep going when you work through it,
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and it just it manifests in a different way and
you're able to like put it in a compartment and
move forward.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You recently started a clothing line me by Jenny Garth,
and looking at your website, I really like how inclusive
it feels. It's women of all ages sizes. You know,
people create new brands to fill a gap in an
existing space. What gap are you trying to fill with
your brand?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm trying to fill the gap that I'm in because
I don't feel comfortable in certain things, and my comfort
is a huge priority to me now than more than
it ever was. Like, I've been on uncomfortable clothes all
my life. I've worn heels all my life. I want
to feel beautiful and strong and independent in my clothes
and maybe don't want to show as much of my
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body sometimes, or maybe I do. I don't know, but
I want to have the option, and I wanted to
create clothing that did just that, that gave women in
my bracket, either younger or older, that same feeling of like,
I know I can throw this on and feel good
in my skin and go out and kill the world.
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Just spreading the message to women my age that you
don't have.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
To dress Yes, older, fifty in twenty twenty four is
really different than fifty in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Even, Hello Chicos Talbots, That's what I remember doing shopping
with my mom.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, remember the Golden Girls. They were in their fifties,
you guys, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
There's all those hilarious memes where they put like a
j Lo photo next to the Golden Girls and they're like,
this is fifty.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't know about that's yelo, but wow, that's a
pretty high level. Just live up to.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
We all have a person that we go to our
ideas with. I have like three people that I really
trust to tell me the truth when you were creating
this line, who is that person for you? Like, who
did you share the vision of this brand with.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I had a very clear vision of what I wanted
to do and the aesthetic of it all. But I
did the very onset of going down this road of
doing a clothing brand. I brought my daughter in and
she's twenty one, Lola, and I thought this would be
such an amazing opportunity for her to learn the business.
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And she's been a part of every aspect of it,
on the business side and on the creative side. And
she really does bring a beautiful, a younger perspective, and
we talk about let's merge the things that you love
and the things that I love, and let's see if
we can find a balance for our customers. And besides that,
I just love working with her every day. We have
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a great relationship and this is just only making it better.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm curious what her perspective on aging is because I
think a lot of how we view aging comes from
our parents. I can remember growing up, my mom had,
you know, an infinite amount of like serums and creams,
and I always thought that she was just skin goals,
Like having healthy skin became a goal for me because
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of her.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I think that Lola would probably say, I mean, I
could pull her in here and make her answer you,
But I think that Lola would say that she's inspired
by me, and all my daughters are always looking to
meet their mom to show them the way and what
it can be like and what feels good and what doesn't.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm thinking about the world that they're growing up in today,
and it's so different from the environment that Danielle and
I came up in and the world that you came
up in, Jenny. And something that we've been saying around
the office as we prepared for this conversation is nine
h two one zero walked so Euphoria could run. Euphoria
is like this shock to the system, even for modern viewers.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
But I'm curious, was it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I was like, oh my, I couldn't watch it. It
made me sad.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, that was too much.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, okay, So how are you you've clearly seen it, Like,
how are you processing just how far teen TV programming
has come.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I really can't even think about it. It's funny. Like
my daughter Luca, the first one, grew up watching Barney
until she was like in middle school, The Brady Bunch.
You know, it's very like, these are the things that
are not going to corrupt your little brain and your soul.
But now, like I say it to my youngest daughter Fiona, like,
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please don't watch stuff that's disturbing. There's no point in
it for you. Nothing good is going to come from that.
To the younger generation, they're so used to it now
that it's so present everywhere they are, everywhere they look like.
It's such a different world. And it makes me feel
again one hundred years old, to think that it's changed
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so radically. But it's wild how much the world changes
and how quickly it changes. And I never ever believe
that when I was younger, but now I see it
from a completely different point of view.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We have to take a quick break, but we'll be
right back with Jenny Garth.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Stay with us, and we're back with Jenny Garth.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Throughout your life, you faced some incredibly challenging transitions, navigating
child stardom, finding balance and co parenting after divorce, most recently,
coping with the profound loss of your friend Shannon Doherty,
and each of these experiences involves not just moving on,
to be honest, I don't know if I believe in that,
but fundamentally reshaping your life. How have these moments influenced
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your understanding of resilience and what insights have you gained
about rebuilding your life after profound change or loss.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I've had a lot of incredible moments in my life,
and I'm so rightful for the show and the trajectory
of how I'm still talking about it and people still
love it and I still love it and I'm not
embarrassed by it. So I feel like when bad things happen,
you just have to go back to how grateful you
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are for your life. For me, I really believe in
feeling my feelings. I know, I know what happens when
you stuff your feelings and you compartmentalize and you don't
process things and you don't clean out the closet. So now,
at this point in my life, after going through so
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many deaths and just big moments and moments of triumph
and moments of despair, being in a place in my
life where I didn't know what the future was, I
didn't know what I was going to do. There have
been so many times when I've been really lost. I
say that because I'm on the other side, and the
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only way to get to the other side of something
is to go through it, not around it. Allow your
body to feel the pain, and then work to get
it out of your body. You have to dig in
sometimes and look within and really acknowledge the reality of
your life and what you're going through and what you're
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dealing with, and in doing that it really does help
you to get through it quicker and more gracefully.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What was the one that you felt like you weren't
going to make it on the other side of.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh everyone, you guys, I am dramatic. I'm like sometimes
I laugh. I'm reading my old journals right now, and
I'm such a drama queen in my journals. You know,
you can really let it rip in there with your rage,
writing and all the emotional stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I every.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Single time I've been through an upsetting time in my life,
I am leveled. Like I am a highly emotional person.
I like to call it emotion full, and I'm proud
of that. But I'm also I'm deeply affected by the
things that happen not just to me, but to people
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I love, and people I don't even know, and animals everywhere,
like I feel feelings like on a huge scale. So
I just think that you have to learn to live
with yourself and learn how you cope with things and
allow yourself to be devastated sometimes in life and you
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can get through it and there is always something on
the other side that's waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't have journals. I just have situations that live
rent free in my head, so I have like a
virtual journal up there. But I have so much respect
for you, Jenny. After listening to your two part episode
of your podcast with your ex husband people Fashionally, I
was just blown away by your honesty and your candor
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and your openness. Like you did a really brilliant job
with that that is not easy to do.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Thank you. That means a lot to me. I had
a lot of work to do after that divorce, and
a lot of recovering to do, and a lot of
loving myself. I would not have I would not be
where I am today if it hadn't been for that happening.
And you know, I share this before Peter knows this.
He said to me once jin someday this is right
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when he was telling me, someday, you're gonna thank me
for this, and I was like, are you in kidding me?
I'm never going to thank you for this. You just
ruined my life, You ruin our family's lives, like what.
And I stayed in that place for a really long time,
that place of just pain and anger and resentment. And
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I tried and tried and tried and tried to get
through it, and tried to be better and not show
my emotions to the kids. And then there was something
that I decided had to change for me, because walking
around with that anger and resentment bitterness was making me
feel ugly. And I was convinced it was making me
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look ugly. Like I would look in the mirror and
I would see ugly, and I would see pain, and
I would see disappointment, and I just like, I don't
want this anymore. Bye, Just get rid of it. And
I hope that people know that that's possible if you
choose to do it. It is possible.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Now that you've had some time from the divorce and
your kids are older, they're doing so well, they're thriving.
I'm curious what your learnings are when it comes to
how to talk to kids about divorce and how to
support kids who are going through it, because I'm thinking
of a dear friend of mine whose kids are really
struggling with the fact that their parents aren't together, and
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I just know a lot of people would benefit from
hearing your perspective on this.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It sucks for the kids, you guys, I think the
kids are the people that it hurts the most. It's
something that is embedded in them at usually young ages,
and those are the ages when they're not equipped to
handle those kind of emotional traumas. You know, their brain
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literally just doesn't know what to do with what's happening,
and they internalize it, they get mad at one or
the other parent. They suffer in so many ways that
I'm very aware of that. Peter had a much different
perspective on it, a much more like they'll be fine,
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they will adjust. They are what's that word they always
say about kids, resilient. They're resilient. He and I disagree
on this, and we agree to disagree on this, and
we have very different parenting styles because of it and
through it, and even now in my home, I always
want to know what you're feeling. I always want to.
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I want you to be honest with me or through feelings.
I want to know when you hate me and when
you're blaming everything on me. It's okay. I can take
it because I know that I'm the only person that
can take it. And all your anger and your frustration
and your hurt and how it comes out in different
ways and it projects into different things. I can take it.
I'm your mom and I will still love you, so
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give it all to me. And I was like a
safe space for them to really feel the feelings and
talk about it and so just kind of getting through
it with them and allowing your kids to feel their
feelings and not taking it personally.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I'm wondering how your identity shifted after the separation, because
you said it hurt pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I never knew how to choose myself. I was lost
at that point in my life and really trying to
get through it. I didn't have the tools and I
really didn't have the support. I had to sort of
like hit rock bottom and be really lost for a
certain period of time. And then it was not until
(29:18):
I underwent some really important healing therapy intensive therapy that
I was able to find that core of who I
was and what I wanted and the healing that needed
to happen, and just acknowledging and allowing it to happen.
(29:38):
And that gave me a certain love for myself, Like
I was like, Wow, Okay, look at all the work
you have to do, Look at all the work you've done,
Like you can do this. And I think that's how
I found the place of loving myself first. And I
had so much fun getting to know me and love
(30:01):
me and picking up all the shattered pieces and like
gluing them back together and molding that into something that
I was proud of, and that I how I wanted
to show up for the world and my daughters and
for myself.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jenny, you have the most beautiful heart. But as we
wrap up our conversation, this is the bright side. We
wanted to end on a bright note. And something that
puts a smile on my face is nineties nostalgia because
it was just it was the best times. It was
the best times are simpler, it was more wholesome.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We were hearing, our fashion was better.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm so glad that both of you got to experience
just a little bit of the freedom of the night.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, yes, what makes you nostalgic when you think about
that time.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I just think about how present everybody was with everyone
and what a gift that was. And I mean as
far as thestalgia.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Butterfly clips eye like what we think spaghetti strap.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
The eyebrows, you guys, my eyebrows were pencil thin. And
then I you know, I still close with my cast
members and we love each other so much and always will.
Like looking at them, I'm reminded of, like, well, what
the nineties were so rad because we were all there
and we were in it together, and we lived through
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that entire decade from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand
on that show, and it represented so much to so
many people and to us, and you know, to me,
I'm so happy that I was a part of that.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Do you have a favorite red carpet look from the nineties?
Is there one that lives rent free in your head?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
There's so many bad ones. Yes, there was the Markwong
narc dress that was like paper thin crape black and
it like crisscrossed right here and wrappederman and I wore
white satin gloves with it. It was something. But the
other one that comes to my mind is when I
decided to wear it was this was a designer I
think too, some big person had me wear it was
(32:07):
literally a bandana just tied around my boobs with like
the point going right there and a really super super
low like leather skirt with it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Those were good looks. Did you save any of the
clothes for your daughters? Do they get to wear them?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I wish. I'm a perjer Like. The only thing I
have that's legit from the nineties is Kelly's cowboy boots,
and I wear them all the time. Oh that's so cool. Yeah.
They hurt my feet like no other, but I still
wear them because Thank you, Jenny.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
We've taken up way too much of your day. Thank
you so much for coming on the bright side.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You're so welcome. I love chatting with you guys. Jenny,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Jenny Garth is an actor, former star of Beverly Hills
nine O two one zero, and the host of the
podcast I Choose Me. She's also the founder the clothing
line Me by Jenny Garth. From QVC, that's it for
today's show.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
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We can't wait for you to hear our incredible conversation
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
See you tomorrow, folks, Keep looking on the bright side.
Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today on the bright Side, Beverly
Hill's nine oh two one oh star and podcast hosts
Jenny Garth is here with us. She's talking about how
she's navigated a very public divorce and co parenting, plus
how a final line of dialogue from nine oh two
one oh still rings truer than ever.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's Monday, October seventh.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the
bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we
come together to share women's stories, to laugh, learn and
brighten your day.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Simone, you know what day it is. Today is On
my Mind Monday, our chance to talk about the things
that we've read or seen over the weekend that give
us a fresh perspective. Can I come at you with mine? Please? Okay?
I read this great essay by Kelly Vaughan where she
talks about deciding if she's going to take her husband's
last name. So she asked friends for their thoughts, but
(01:05):
she still wasn't sure what felt right for her. She
ends up taking his legal last name, but kept her
maiden name professionally. Okay, So then she gets her new
Social Security card, and she said when she looked at it,
she was shocked and it made her realize her maiden
name meant more to her than she actually even thought.
So she changed it back, and once her name was restored,
(01:26):
she said she felt whole again. The reason I'm sharing
this today is this is something I've thought about a lot.
Even when I go to bachelorette parties, I usually bring
this topic up. I ask all the girls there, all
the women, how they feel about taking their husband's last name,
and it's usually a point of debate because everybody feels
differently about it. How do you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, it's really funny that this is your on my
mind Monday, because I just came from a wedding and
this topic came up. And you're right, everyone has strong
feelings about it. Listen. I owe want to stay away
from speaking too broadly about like what women should do. However,
I personally have very strong feelings about this. I did
not change my name. My maiden name is Boyce. I'm
(02:10):
keeping it partly because I spent a very long time
building up my career, and my career happens to be public.
So people, if you've ever seen my work, it's you know,
you've seen it under the name Simone Boyce. And the
idea of changing my last name felt like to some
(02:30):
degree I would be undermining my professional achievements. And I
also think that I saw this modeled by my mom
because my mom was an actor in the eighties and
her maiden name was John's and she kept her maiden
name in her work. So I kind of had that
example for me when I was growing up. But my
biggest problem with this is the history of it. The
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history of name change is rooted in the idea that women,
at one point in time legally became the possession of
a man. And I mean this goes back to the
exchange of land and feudal territories and houses coming together
and forming alliances, and in that context, women were completely dehumanized.
(03:14):
They were property. And so have times changed. Yes, we
are in a modern time where we do have the
right to vote, where we do have credit cards, and
I think we are recognized for our humanity more so
than women were back then. However, I think it's really
important to question the origins of these traditions, because, on
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the other hand, even in a modern context, all of
the burden, all of the invisible labor of changing your name,
it falls on the women. It falls on us to
spend hours at the DMB filling out paperwork, communicating with
the government who's notoriously impossible to communicate with, and husbands
don't have to do any of this. So tell me,
(03:58):
I mean, is that really fair.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I think what's hard, though, is there's not a great
solution or other option, because I do like the idea
of feeling like a family unit, and you know, when
you get married, if you decide to do that and
you have children, then it is nice to all feel
like you have the same name. I think your kids
like when you go to the airport, they feel like
(04:20):
a family unit. Not that that's necessary, but it's something
I think about. The problem is there's no real solution,
like do you hyphenate even if you keep your name,
which name do the kids take? I just feel like
we're in a time where we're questioning all of this
and there's no clear solution, which is why I think
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everybody keeps debating it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I actually think though, that millennials have gotten really creative
with this. I have a friend who combined her last
name with their husbands and they both took the new
last name.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I do like the idea of combining names. I actually
have a friend who lost her father at a young age,
and so she's the only child and so keeping the
family name alive was really important to her, and her
husband said, I'll take your last name. That's fine. I
think the meaning of the name is something that I
(05:14):
think about. You know, I've actually asked this question to
Connie Chung. I asked it to you and our producer
Tim Offline. I said, what does it mean to be
a blank? Whatever your last name is? Because when I
think about my last name, I'm like, what does that
mean to be? My real last name is Willerman? Robey's
my middle name, and I'm like, what does it mean
to be a Willerman? And the first thing I thought
(05:36):
was it means to be a free thinker. And I
think everybody has some association to that name, whether it's
associated with their parents, their grandparents, their the hardship, the
joy of their family. And it's more than a name.
It's memories, it's family values. This one's complicated for me. Yeah,
(05:57):
you know what the good thing is in twenty twenty
four is women have a choice, and that's what feminism
is all about. It's about choice. So which whatever feels
right for you is the right choice. But speaking of identity,
we have somebody who thought about their identity a lot
as they moved through marriage and divorce. Jenny Garth is
(06:18):
here with us today.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yes, you might remember her as Kelly Taylor from Beverly
Hills nine oh two one oh, the role that sky
rocketed her into fame. Jenny appeared on all ten seasons
of the show, which ran from nineteen ninety to two thousand.
It's hard to think about what TV would look like
today without the impact of nine oh two one oh.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
When I tell you I used to fake sick for
school to stay home and watch nine oh two one oh,
I am not lying. I loved that show. That was
like I love Saved by the Bell, and then I
discovered nine oh two one oh, and I thought I
have seasons to catch up on same Well.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
In twenty fourteen, Jenny Garth added author to her resume
with her memoir titled Deep from a Hollywood Blonde, and
now she's the host of her podcast I Choose Me,
where she interviews celebrities, friends and family members, including a
very powerful conversation with her ex husband Peter Fatchinelli.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
She also recently launched a clothing line called Me by
Jenny Garth, and she's entering a new decade her fifties,
so I can't wait to ask all about how she's
approaching this new chapter and the mantra that she lives by,
which is I Choose Me. Jenny Garth is joining us
right after the break Stay with us.
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Speaker 2 (07:56):
Jennie Garth, Welcome to the bright Side. Oh that's sound
so nice. We're so happy to have you. Simone and
I have been talking about this interview for quite some time.
And this mantra that you have, I Choose Me. I
didn't realize that it actually came from a line in
nine O two one zero, but you've really given it
new life. What did it mean to you then versus now?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I know it's so crazy, right that it's all it's
from the nineties, like it's from the OG Show. Yeah,
it was that moment when Kelly had to choose between
Brandon and Dylan and she was put on the spot
and she said, I can't choose either of you. I
choose myself. I choose me. And I didn't really understand
like the levity of that statement when I was twenty two.
(08:43):
Probably I just I didn't really get it until years
later when I started hearing it from fans that I
would meet, especially women who grew up watching it, and
they would be like, oh my gosh, that line I
choose me such an effect on me. I never knew
I could choose myself in moments like that, and I
(09:06):
was like, wait, what, And it just started to make
sense on a different level for me, and I thought,
this message has to be brought back around. It has
to be amplified, because I was in a place where
I was like, what am I doing with my life?
I don't really enjoy like the whole rigamow of making
television or movies anymore. I don't like sitting around waiting,
(09:27):
I don't like auditioning, I don't like waiting to be
rejected or accepted. So yeah, here I am. I have
a podcast called I Choose Me. I have a clothing
brand called Me. I'm coming out with a perfume called Me,
Like I'm going for it because I've always had so
much to share with people. I'm just not the right
way in and I'm just this is it, this is
(09:50):
the moment for I choose me in every way.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm so curious how you choose yourself on a daily basis,
because in theory it sounds great, but the reality is
life happens. Like I'm a young mom of like two
little boys, you know, who are four and two, and
it's it's hard to choose me, just being completely honest.
And you know you have a very full life too,
(10:14):
You've got three beautiful kids. So how do you choose
yourself on a daily basis?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Like, what does that look like, Jenny? I mean there
were years where I was in the same position as you,
little kids underfoot, relying on me one hundred percent and
working full time and trying to keep a marriage alive
and trying to be a good sister and daughter, and
it was really hard. So to be truthful with you,
I now can go back and say, yeah, I was
(10:42):
in the same boat. I didn't choose myself when I
was a young mom because I didn't know I could
and I didn't know I needed to. And so now
as my daughters have all grown up a little bit
and they meet me a little bit less, I started
having a little extra time on my hands and thinking
about things and having like ten minutes in the bathroom
(11:03):
to myself, just taking those little opportunities. At first too,
I'm not going to do the dishes right now, because
right now is an opportunity for me to sit down
in journal, or sit down and read a book, or
just sit down and stare out the window. The dishes
will be there when I'm done, you know. So it
was just like little minute things like that for a
long time. That then, as I got more and more
(11:24):
time and I was able to see the benefits of
that kind of self care and those choices, that I
was like, Okay, I need to work this more into
my daily schedule. So then I actually just start putting
it on my calendar, like and it's like it's an appointment.
I get up every morning at seven am and I
go to the gym and that's my hour to take
(11:45):
care of my body physically and also you know, mentally,
and your world starts to open up about how you
can take more and more. I choose me moments. And
I was told this when I was all my life.
You can't really truly love others until you love yourself.
And I was like, oof, that's really lame. I you know, like, okay,
(12:06):
I'll love myself in about two hours when I'm done
with this. But I realize now that it's so true,
Like you have a different presence about you when you
are taken care of by yourself. It rubs off on
the people around you and the people that work with you,
and the people in your home. In essence, choosing yourself
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is choosing the people that you love too.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, speaking of the people that you love, your daughter
Lola interviewed you on your podcast about turning fifty and
your next chapter. Danielle and I interviewed a woman who
runs this community called Glorious Broad's, and we have this
wide ranging conversation about growing older, and she says that
she called the fifties the fit fifties, like where you
(12:55):
just have zero f's left to give. And I'm so
curious what your take on the fifties has been so far.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Definitely not fucket fifties, because I'm so intentionally choosing my health,
what I eat, and how I exercise. Like everything becomes
so much more important as you get older and you're
able to really prioritize your time and be selective about
what you want to spend your time on. And so
(13:23):
I feel more intentional and more just collected and grounded,
and like, I have a vision for what I want
for my future, and I have a vision for what
I want to provide my grown up children with now,
what I want to be able to give them, And
so that drives me and fuels me to really stay
connected to what I want and my plan.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I think that when people talk about aging, there's this
pressure that's like assigned to them because now, all of
a sudden, there's expectations or criticism if they don't go
all in on the concept of like aging completely natural.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I'm dying to.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hear what you think about this, Like do you feel
pressure to not dye your hair or to dye your hair?
Like how do you think about all of it?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I have been under scrutiny my entire life and my
livelihood has been predicated on how I look. Yeah, and
that has really fucked me up. You guys, like I
think anybody that can imagine themselves in my position as
a young girl being the hot one on the show,
(14:32):
or the pretty one of the blonde or the mill
for all the things as generate as you go through
the decades, like what it is that you represent to people,
what they remember from you, what they want to see
when they look at you, what they expect from you.
That has been an immense amount of pressure and something
I've never had the capacity to process and actually confront
(14:55):
and deal with until now. It was a different kind
of mental pressure that goes really really deep into someone's psyche.
And it's hard to ever really talk about it or
acknowledge it because it seems so superficial and seems so
you know, there are much bigger problems.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, it's hard for people to think like, oh, I'm
so sorry you were so hot exactly like, oh, you're
you're sad, sad life, right, yeah, but you're almost in
jail in your own brain.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's how you process it all and think of it.
Because I'm my worst critic and I don't know if
other people feel this way or not. But like I
do read comments, I have to curb myself now. But
like I have read the comments and I do see
the hateful things that people say. Well, I don't know,
but like it does, Deke, it's old and you just
(15:48):
have to learn how to navigate it, which I have
done and I'm still doing. And also it's just I
think it goes back to that like loving yourself and
being able to go back and look at all that
you were dealt and then also to just look at
what all the things you have that you're grateful for,
and you just keep going when you work through it,
(16:10):
and it just it manifests in a different way and
you're able to like put it in a compartment and
move forward.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You recently started a clothing line me by Jenny Garth,
and looking at your website, I really like how inclusive
it feels. It's women of all ages sizes. You know,
people create new brands to fill a gap in an
existing space. What gap are you trying to fill with
your brand?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm trying to fill the gap that I'm in because
I don't feel comfortable in certain things, and my comfort
is a huge priority to me now than more than
it ever was. Like, I've been on uncomfortable clothes all
my life. I've worn heels all my life. I want
to feel beautiful and strong and independent in my clothes
and maybe don't want to show as much of my
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body sometimes, or maybe I do. I don't know, but
I want to have the option, and I wanted to
create clothing that did just that, that gave women in
my bracket, either younger or older, that same feeling of like,
I know I can throw this on and feel good
in my skin and go out and kill the world.
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Just spreading the message to women my age that you
don't have.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
To dress Yes, older, fifty in twenty twenty four is
really different than fifty in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Even, Hello Chicos Talbots, That's what I remember doing shopping
with my mom.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, remember the Golden Girls. They were in their fifties,
you guys, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
There's all those hilarious memes where they put like a
j Lo photo next to the Golden Girls and they're like,
this is fifty.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't know about that's yelo, but wow, that's a
pretty high level. Just live up to.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
We all have a person that we go to our
ideas with. I have like three people that I really
trust to tell me the truth when you were creating
this line, who is that person for you? Like, who
did you share the vision of this brand with.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I had a very clear vision of what I wanted
to do and the aesthetic of it all. But I
did the very onset of going down this road of
doing a clothing brand. I brought my daughter in and
she's twenty one, Lola, and I thought this would be
such an amazing opportunity for her to learn the business.
(18:26):
And she's been a part of every aspect of it,
on the business side and on the creative side. And
she really does bring a beautiful, a younger perspective, and
we talk about let's merge the things that you love
and the things that I love, and let's see if
we can find a balance for our customers. And besides that,
I just love working with her every day. We have
(18:48):
a great relationship and this is just only making it better.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm curious what her perspective on aging is because I
think a lot of how we view aging comes from
our parents. I can remember growing up, my mom had,
you know, an infinite amount of like serums and creams,
and I always thought that she was just skin goals,
Like having healthy skin became a goal for me because
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of her.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I think that Lola would probably say, I mean, I
could pull her in here and make her answer you,
But I think that Lola would say that she's inspired
by me, and all my daughters are always looking to
meet their mom to show them the way and what
it can be like and what feels good and what doesn't.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm thinking about the world that they're growing up in today,
and it's so different from the environment that Danielle and
I came up in and the world that you came
up in, Jenny. And something that we've been saying around
the office as we prepared for this conversation is nine
h two one zero walked so Euphoria could run. Euphoria
is like this shock to the system, even for modern viewers.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
But I'm curious, was it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I was like, oh my, I couldn't watch it. It
made me sad.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, that was too much.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, okay, So how are you you've clearly seen it, Like,
how are you processing just how far teen TV programming
has come.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I really can't even think about it. It's funny. Like
my daughter Luca, the first one, grew up watching Barney
until she was like in middle school, The Brady Bunch.
You know, it's very like, these are the things that
are not going to corrupt your little brain and your soul.
But now, like I say it to my youngest daughter Fiona, like,
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please don't watch stuff that's disturbing. There's no point in
it for you. Nothing good is going to come from that.
To the younger generation, they're so used to it now
that it's so present everywhere they are, everywhere they look like.
It's such a different world. And it makes me feel
again one hundred years old, to think that it's changed
(20:56):
so radically. But it's wild how much the world changes
and how quickly it changes. And I never ever believe
that when I was younger, but now I see it
from a completely different point of view.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We have to take a quick break, but we'll be
right back with Jenny Garth.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Stay with us, and we're back with Jenny Garth.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Throughout your life, you faced some incredibly challenging transitions, navigating
child stardom, finding balance and co parenting after divorce, most recently,
coping with the profound loss of your friend Shannon Doherty,
and each of these experiences involves not just moving on,
to be honest, I don't know if I believe in that,
but fundamentally reshaping your life. How have these moments influenced
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your understanding of resilience and what insights have you gained
about rebuilding your life after profound change or loss.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I've had a lot of incredible moments in my life,
and I'm so rightful for the show and the trajectory
of how I'm still talking about it and people still
love it and I still love it and I'm not
embarrassed by it. So I feel like when bad things happen,
you just have to go back to how grateful you
(22:18):
are for your life. For me, I really believe in
feeling my feelings. I know, I know what happens when
you stuff your feelings and you compartmentalize and you don't
process things and you don't clean out the closet. So now,
at this point in my life, after going through so
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many deaths and just big moments and moments of triumph
and moments of despair, being in a place in my
life where I didn't know what the future was, I
didn't know what I was going to do. There have
been so many times when I've been really lost. I
say that because I'm on the other side, and the
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only way to get to the other side of something
is to go through it, not around it. Allow your
body to feel the pain, and then work to get
it out of your body. You have to dig in
sometimes and look within and really acknowledge the reality of
your life and what you're going through and what you're
(23:21):
dealing with, and in doing that it really does help
you to get through it quicker and more gracefully.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What was the one that you felt like you weren't
going to make it on the other side of.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh everyone, you guys, I am dramatic. I'm like sometimes
I laugh. I'm reading my old journals right now, and
I'm such a drama queen in my journals. You know,
you can really let it rip in there with your rage,
writing and all the emotional stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I every.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Single time I've been through an upsetting time in my life,
I am leveled. Like I am a highly emotional person.
I like to call it emotion full, and I'm proud
of that. But I'm also I'm deeply affected by the
things that happen not just to me, but to people
(24:17):
I love, and people I don't even know, and animals everywhere,
like I feel feelings like on a huge scale. So
I just think that you have to learn to live
with yourself and learn how you cope with things and
allow yourself to be devastated sometimes in life and you
(24:42):
can get through it and there is always something on
the other side that's waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't have journals. I just have situations that live
rent free in my head, so I have like a
virtual journal up there. But I have so much respect
for you, Jenny. After listening to your two part episode
of your podcast with your ex husband people Fashionally, I
was just blown away by your honesty and your candor
(25:09):
and your openness. Like you did a really brilliant job
with that that is not easy to do.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Thank you. That means a lot to me. I had
a lot of work to do after that divorce, and
a lot of recovering to do, and a lot of
loving myself. I would not have I would not be
where I am today if it hadn't been for that happening.
And you know, I share this before Peter knows this.
He said to me once jin someday this is right
(25:36):
when he was telling me, someday, you're gonna thank me
for this, and I was like, are you in kidding me?
I'm never going to thank you for this. You just
ruined my life, You ruin our family's lives, like what.
And I stayed in that place for a really long time,
that place of just pain and anger and resentment. And
(25:57):
I tried and tried and tried and tried to get
through it, and tried to be better and not show
my emotions to the kids. And then there was something
that I decided had to change for me, because walking
around with that anger and resentment bitterness was making me
feel ugly. And I was convinced it was making me
(26:18):
look ugly. Like I would look in the mirror and
I would see ugly, and I would see pain, and
I would see disappointment, and I just like, I don't
want this anymore. Bye, Just get rid of it. And
I hope that people know that that's possible if you
choose to do it. It is possible.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Now that you've had some time from the divorce and
your kids are older, they're doing so well, they're thriving.
I'm curious what your learnings are when it comes to
how to talk to kids about divorce and how to
support kids who are going through it, because I'm thinking
of a dear friend of mine whose kids are really
struggling with the fact that their parents aren't together, and
(26:59):
I just know a lot of people would benefit from
hearing your perspective on this.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It sucks for the kids, you guys, I think the
kids are the people that it hurts the most. It's
something that is embedded in them at usually young ages,
and those are the ages when they're not equipped to
handle those kind of emotional traumas. You know, their brain
(27:25):
literally just doesn't know what to do with what's happening,
and they internalize it, they get mad at one or
the other parent. They suffer in so many ways that
I'm very aware of that. Peter had a much different
perspective on it, a much more like they'll be fine,
(27:45):
they will adjust. They are what's that word they always
say about kids, resilient. They're resilient. He and I disagree
on this, and we agree to disagree on this, and
we have very different parenting styles because of it and
through it, and even now in my home, I always
want to know what you're feeling. I always want to.
(28:08):
I want you to be honest with me or through feelings.
I want to know when you hate me and when
you're blaming everything on me. It's okay. I can take
it because I know that I'm the only person that
can take it. And all your anger and your frustration
and your hurt and how it comes out in different
ways and it projects into different things. I can take it.
I'm your mom and I will still love you, so
(28:31):
give it all to me. And I was like a
safe space for them to really feel the feelings and
talk about it and so just kind of getting through
it with them and allowing your kids to feel their
feelings and not taking it personally.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I'm wondering how your identity shifted after the separation, because
you said it hurt pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I never knew how to choose myself. I was lost
at that point in my life and really trying to
get through it. I didn't have the tools and I
really didn't have the support. I had to sort of
like hit rock bottom and be really lost for a
certain period of time. And then it was not until
(29:18):
I underwent some really important healing therapy intensive therapy that
I was able to find that core of who I
was and what I wanted and the healing that needed
to happen, and just acknowledging and allowing it to happen.
(29:38):
And that gave me a certain love for myself, Like
I was like, Wow, Okay, look at all the work
you have to do, Look at all the work you've done,
Like you can do this. And I think that's how
I found the place of loving myself first. And I
had so much fun getting to know me and love
(30:01):
me and picking up all the shattered pieces and like
gluing them back together and molding that into something that
I was proud of, and that I how I wanted
to show up for the world and my daughters and
for myself.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jenny, you have the most beautiful heart. But as we
wrap up our conversation, this is the bright side. We
wanted to end on a bright note. And something that
puts a smile on my face is nineties nostalgia because
it was just it was the best times. It was
the best times are simpler, it was more wholesome.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We were hearing, our fashion was better.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm so glad that both of you got to experience
just a little bit of the freedom of the night.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, yes, what makes you nostalgic when you think about
that time.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I just think about how present everybody was with everyone
and what a gift that was. And I mean as
far as thestalgia.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Butterfly clips eye like what we think spaghetti strap.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
The eyebrows, you guys, my eyebrows were pencil thin. And
then I you know, I still close with my cast
members and we love each other so much and always will.
Like looking at them, I'm reminded of, like, well, what
the nineties were so rad because we were all there
and we were in it together, and we lived through
(31:25):
that entire decade from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand
on that show, and it represented so much to so
many people and to us, and you know, to me,
I'm so happy that I was a part of that.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Do you have a favorite red carpet look from the nineties?
Is there one that lives rent free in your head?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
There's so many bad ones. Yes, there was the Markwong
narc dress that was like paper thin crape black and
it like crisscrossed right here and wrappederman and I wore
white satin gloves with it. It was something. But the
other one that comes to my mind is when I
decided to wear it was this was a designer I
think too, some big person had me wear it was
(32:07):
literally a bandana just tied around my boobs with like
the point going right there and a really super super
low like leather skirt with it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Those were good looks. Did you save any of the
clothes for your daughters? Do they get to wear them?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I wish. I'm a perjer Like. The only thing I
have that's legit from the nineties is Kelly's cowboy boots,
and I wear them all the time. Oh that's so cool. Yeah.
They hurt my feet like no other, but I still
wear them because Thank you, Jenny.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
We've taken up way too much of your day. Thank
you so much for coming on the bright side.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You're so welcome. I love chatting with you guys. Jenny,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Jenny Garth is an actor, former star of Beverly Hills
nine O two one zero, and the host of the
podcast I Choose Me. She's also the founder the clothing
line Me by Jenny Garth. From QVC, that's it for
today's show.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Tomorrow, we're bringing you a live episode from Shine away.
We can't wait for you to hear our incredible conversation
all about imposter syndrome with author and chef Gobby Dolkin
and co host of the talk Amanda Klutz.
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Speaker 2 (33:37):
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
See you tomorrow, folks, Keep looking on the bright side.
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