December 17, 2024 • 29 mins
From “The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel” and “Succession” to one of this year’s buzziest shows “Nobody Wants This,” actor Justine Lupe has captivated audiences for her distinct humor, specificity, and dedication to her craft. She comes on the show to talk about what it’s been like to be a part of a show that centers a healthy relationship, her journey to film and TV after training at Juilliard, and what she’s learned about balancing work with new motherhood.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey Besties, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, actor
Justine Lup joins us to talk about her role in
one of the buzziest shows of the year Netflix is
Nobody Wants This. It's Tuesday, December seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Danielle Robe, I'm Simone Boyce, and this is the
bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we
come together to share women's stories, laugh, learn, and brighten
your day.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay, nobody wants This was a phenomenon.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Turns out everybody wanted it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Forbody wanted it.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I have not laughed out loud at the TV watching
a show in a very long time.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It was just so relatable too.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
If you haven't gotten on, then nobody wants this train yet.
It's a Netflix show that follows Joe Anne, who's an
agnostic podcaster she's a funny way of describing her played
by Kristin Bell, and Noah, who's a newly single rabbi
played by Adam Brody. They fall in love and they're
having to navigate their different lives and.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Their different religions. They're different families.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I was laughing so hard at the scene where Kristen
Bell meets Adam Brodie's mom and they visit his parents' house.
It is in this insanely gorgeous mansion, and then they
have the most painfully awkward brunch of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Simone, did you see that house?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, it was huge.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Imagine renting that house on Airbnb for a weekend goals.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I am so down for that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, if you're a fan of the show like us,
we have amazing news for you. It has already been
picked up for a second season and we are so excited.
We're going to do our best to get some tea
from one of the stars of the show. Today, actor
Justin Loop is here with us. She plays Morgan, who
is Joe Anne's quick witted sister and co host on
their podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You also might.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Recognize Justine from her work on other, I don't know,
moderately successful TV shows like Succession. She plays Willa in
that show and also Astrod in The Marvelous Missus Masel.
Let's go ahead and bring her in. Justin Loop, Welcome
to the bright Side.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Thank you guys for much. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And huge congratulations because nobody wants this was nominated in
the Best Musical or Comedy TV Series category for the
Gold Globes.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yes. Cool.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
If I could snap into the microphone, I would. We're
so happy to have you here and excited to talk
to you because we are huge fans of the show.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We binged it along with the rest of America. Yes,
we could not get enough of Nobody Wants This. And
you know what I was thinking as I was watching it.
You've played so many amazing characters that I've fallen in
love with, and I've noticed a through line with them.
I'm thinking of Willa from Succession and Morgan from Nobody
Wants This, and I notice that they're underestimated by just
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about everyone else in the show, all the other characters,
and yet they go on to surprise and delight the
audience with their wit, or their strategy or their strength
in certain situations. What do you think their superpowers are
these women that you've played.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I think there's superpower is I mean, you know, Morgan
does care, she wants to rise for the occasion, and
she wants to prove people wrong. But I also do
think she has a real essence of like not giving
a fuck, and Willa also had the same quality where
it was kind of like the thing that I loved
most about Willa was that she walked into this like
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group of sharks and she was kind of like untouchable
because she just didn't play by the same rules as
they did.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And I think Morgan.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Has a similar quality that's so satisfying and fun to play,
where it's like this person that, yeah, nobody expects her
to be great at what she's doing, but she's aware
of that, but she doesn't let it phase her really
and she carries herself like through it with like poison,
kind of just being like whatever, I like have fun.
Like she's got this kind of a care free thing
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and she it's like a really satisfying quality to play.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think that's like the secret power. Yeah, what do
you think your superpower is? As an actor and creative?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh that's really sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I read the book The Alchemist.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It was when I was in my late teens that
I read it, and I remember the whole premise of
the book is just keep on going back to following
your heart no matter what. And it's so simple, but
it just truly is the key to everything. That if
you're following your heart and you're you're not inhibiting what
your heart is telling you to do it leads you
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to the right things. I feel like it's led me
to like amazing relationships. I think it's led me to
the right career moves. I like don't think I lead
intellectually or like thinking about like what's going to serve me.
I'm not very savvy in that way. I think some
people that can like really work out for them, like
having some sort of like premeditated plan or like knowing
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the business. And for me, it's always just been Okay,
I'm following my heart, which is most likely going to
lead me to like good material and hard work. And
it also like helps so you feel like a trust
within yourself. You're like, okay, like my heart loves acting
and it knows that really clearly.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's something that has served me really well.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And I would say that would be if I had
a superpower, it would be that that I have a
very strong relationship to my heart.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, it served you so well because you've been on
two of the most popular shows in like the past
five years, So it seems like it's working out for
you so beautifully, So continue doing whatever you're doing.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Thank you. It's knocking on what I mean, I feel
really luck. I feel that myself.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I'm like, whoa, this is wild that you know, you
never know when something's going to like have the effect
that it has, because there's so many projects that you
read and you're like, oh, this is amazing, and then
they don't ever see the light of day, or they
just can't make it out of like the like sea
of media that's out there. They can't like rise and
into visibility. So I'm just really lucky that these are
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two shows that have resonated for people and the people
like to watch It's wild.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Justine, you graduated from juliad in twenty eleven, right, so
when you were there, did you think you would be
playing these types of characters?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
You know, it's funny. So in high school I was
really really drawn to comedy. I went to a performing
arts high school and I remember doing a scene from
Streetcar named Desire and my teacher being like, Okay, so
this isn't a comedy, like just playing it like it
was a comedy like, and it's not. And it was
my favorite kind of genre. I had the most fun
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with comedy. And then when you go to Juilliard, they
do this thing where for the first three years they
give you this stuff that you would not necessarily gravitate
towards or be cast as I think, to stretch you
and try and get you to do things that are
like way outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Honestly, the first three years of Juilliard, I was like.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Playing like old women and like the matriarch of the family,
which is like something that I was so uncomfortable with.
I just like had always played the comedic relief for
the Angenoux. Those were the two parts that I'd played,
and they were giving me these massive like the queen
or like the mom in like picnic, just like crazy
women with like gravitas, or people who are like really
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really old and like barely hanging on. And then it
wasn't until my last year at Juilliard that they like
kind of let me do a little bit more comedy.
And to answer your question succinctly, I would say, like,
I had no idea what my career would end up doing,
but I'm so happy that I've gotten to play a
little bit more with comedy lately.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's really fun.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm curious about Justine in between graduating from Juilliard and
getting her first big role, were you the type of
person that's auditioning and like having fun with it and
meeting people, or are you the type of person that's
auditioning and going nuts over not getting a role and
thinking like what's next?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
How am I.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Gonna make this work?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who were you in that time period?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I think I was like somewhere in between those two things.
I still I have friends from that time, and they're like, wow,
like they had memories of me just like holing up
and like just sitting with sides. I had the mentality
of like, the only thing I really can do to
like control the situation, which is completely uncontrollable, is just
like put my head down and like work really really hard.
And I remember also having like terrible nerves because it
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was so weird, like walking into all these rooms and
doing auditions and I'd never done it before.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And I remember just being like the only.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Thing I can do is like just get these lines
like as molecularly absorbed into me that I don't get swayed,
Like my nerves can't screw.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
With me doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yeah, So I remember being like really like intensely serious
about it. But I also don't remember being too bitter
or too heartbroken. I mean, I remember the very beginning,
it was like you would fall in love but the part,
and you'd be like, you would be sad when it
didn't happen, and that still happens once in a while.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But you also it's kind.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Of like exposure therapy, Like the more rejections you get,
the more you're like, oh, this is just the way
that it goes and you get used to that feeling
of it's not personal and that life goes on and
that things don't work out your way all the time.
But it I don't know, there's something like magic to
the exposure to rejection that you get as an actor,
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and I think I handled it pretty well. We've got
to take a quick break. We'll be right back with
actor Justine Loop. And we're back with Justin Loop.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Tell me if this is correct or not.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
It sounds to me like you've actually had like a
pretty positive experience in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's not a story I hear all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
M Yeah, I feel like I've had really good luck
of being with good people and not running into too
much dark energy. I'm not like a real partier and
I'm not like the most social person in the world.
So I think it was like, LA can kind of
be like a make your own adventure in terms of
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like picking the people that you're hanging out with. And
I had a lot of friends from when I was
younger that were here, my brother's here, and I feel
like I kind of like veered away from some things
that can lead to like some rough situations. And yeah,
and then on top of that, I just really lucked
out on being in really good shows with great creators
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and really great number ones, Like the people who are
number one on the call sheet really set the tone
for like the rest of the show. And I've had
the luck of being on shows with like wonderful, wonderful
leaders and that can like make or break an experience,
and I've been really, really lucky.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
One of the Hollywood stories that made headlines about you
was when you shared that you were pregnant while auditioning
for Nobody Wants This, But you chose not to share
that news right away.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What went into that decision.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I hid my pregnancy in the beginning, just for the
first three months, because that part of your pregnancy is
so vulnerable, Like thirty percent of women have miscarriages in
those first three months. You know, it's like a pretty
crazy high stat of you know, losses, and so I
kind of was like, I don't know if I want
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to share this with people that I'm not comfortable mourning
with or letting it go with or talk disclosing like
if there is a loss. I wasn't scared to tell
my my colleagues about the pregnancy. I told them as
soon as I was safe to tell them, like as
soon as I was out of the woods with my
first trimester, I told everyone on the show that that
was what was going on with me and kind of
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just trusted that it would be okay. It was like
a little bit scary because there is a near of
like that we've all been around for a really long
time of like, you know, having kids is something that
can like stall your career and that people are not
supportive of that in this industry. But I had seen
Sarah Snook go through it on succession, and I've had
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other friends who did done their best work pregnant, and
I also, you know, I had a tiny bit of fear.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
About how it would go over.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
But I also was like, you know what this is, like,
this is where we're at now, Like I'm not going
to stop acting. And I felt like I intuited that
everybody would be really, really wonderful about it, and I
was right, you know, the moment that I told everyone,
they were really kind about it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Completely, And I asked, because I think that that narrative
is so real, it's so prevalent. I grew up feeling
that way even in my industry and media. I thought, Oh,
I have to make it by thirty so that I
can have a family. Otherwise I can't make the career work.
And I had to unlearn that. So I was curious
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to hear your perspective on it. Yeah, that fear comes
from like a real place. There's like a long history
of like that being the case, you know. Like I
just was watching the Paul Newman and Joyan Woodward documentary
thing on.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
HBO where it's like six parts and she talks about
how she was like at this all time high and
she like her career was like crazy, she was getting
nominated for Academy Awards and winning, and then she says,
like I had children and like you just can't do
both in they're like my I couldn't have my career
and like she's very very like upfront about being Like
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she says, I wish I hadn't had children, Like it's
really intense, and so it's like there's a good reason
that we're all afraid of, like that there is this
like you know, ethos around it. But I also think
that like it's just a bunch of bowl and like that,
I've seen women doing the best work ever and being
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incredible mom And I really think that the industry should,
if not if they aren't already, they should be rising
to the occasion to meet this kind of like you know,
new new wave of incredible women who are also moms.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
We all work in Los Angeles, in Hollywood, you know,
in careers that are on camera. But and I'm so
happy to hear how receptive everyone was on your set, Justine.
The reality is there are women all over this country,
all over this world who are still, you know, working
in environments where they do feel shame about their pregnancies,
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you know, or they do feel like they're treated differently
at work. So that reality still exists for so many
women today. And I can remember when I was coming
back from my maternity leave, when I was working as
a reporter. I came back Fromnity leave. I was working
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for about four months, and then I had to work
up the courage to tell my boss that I was
pregnant again with a surprise pregnancy. And I just remember
feeling that fear so viscerally because people would come up
to me and say, you know, it's amazing you're still
here in the newsroom, you're working, you're so pregnant. Like
I can remember five ten years ago when this was
not the case, you know, when when correspondence would have
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been pushed out, would have removed themselves from their careers
because of this.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So it's it's also fresh, oh totally.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I mean I had several friends of mine when I
said that, I'd be like, oh yeah, I've had bosses
say rude, rude basically like scorn them for saying that
they were pregnant, or like make discourage in commons. So
this isn't to say that like, oh my gosh, every
like to deny the fact that this is still an
issue and that we've got like a long way to go.
I just feel like things have to start somewhere, and
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unfortunately it starts with us having the courage to try
and make progress, like and try and be open and
then it has to carry over.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Into people making the right moves.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
And I think there is something too seeing expanders and
knowing that it's a possibility. And that's not to say
that it's always going to go as smoothly as it
went for me, and I know that it very often
does not go that way, but it was an important
thing for me to hear, and so it was something
that I wanted other women to hear coming from me.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I love talking to other mothers who are working, still
pursuing their dreams and still feeling creatively energized. And I'm curious,
what is one way that motherhood has changed your perspective?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Oh gosh, I mean there's a lot. I think that
it's kind of brought me to my knees.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, because you just are left in like a very
very It's like a simultaneously really powerful state but also
like a vulnerable state, and you're learning everything all over again.
And birth in itself really brought me to my niece,
and also to know that I'm like at the very
beginning of a long I don't know how much further
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along you are than I am, but that there's like
so many unknowns and to feel that again. I think
sometimes you get into autopilot, and this is like just
being completely taken out of autopilot and thrown into like baby,
I'm like a baby. I'm trying to figure out how
this is all going to go. I don't know what
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it's going to be like to be on set and
navigating being a mom and being at work and how
to like make that all happen. Let alone, I'm navigating
how to help my child fart. Like, it's just like
you're brought back to the most elementary version of yourself.
I feel like I'm in hyperdrive, just trying to catch
up with the circumstances, the given circumstances, and then there's
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like all these beautiful surprises along the way. It's not
just a struggle. It's amazing. But it's really like thrown
me into a different mode of thinking than I was
just four months ago.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, it's an awakening.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I love that you said that that it really kind
of like shook you out of autopilot at such a
great point totally.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
It's like the learning curve is insane. Yeah, And like
we do all this like prep for pregnancy, and there's
like all these books that I was reading while I
was pregnant on How to be Pregnant, and then like
you get to the fourth trimester.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
And you're like, where was this?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
And then it's just like scrambling to like figure it
all out and you never can, which is also wild.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We have to take another short break, but don't go anywhere.
We'll be right back to our conversation with Justine Loop.
And we're back with actor Justine Loop. So, Justine, I
don't want to jump around shows, but I read something
that really interested me. You said that Matthew mcphaden, who
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famously played mister Darcy in Pride and Prejudice, who was
in Succession, was your teenage crush. Yeah, okay, I'm having
a meltdown for you because don't make fun of me.
But like, Channing, Tatum or Usher were my teenage crushes.
And if I got to work with Channing Tatum or Usher,
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and like if I got to do a talk show
with either of them, I would absolutely die. I don't
know how you were on set with your teenage crush.
Can you please explain this to me.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I didn't handle it great. I mean I was totally
nerdy and like and I was nervous.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I was really weird. I do this thing where.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
If there's someone that I'm like a fan of or
that I have a crush on or whatever, I do
like the opposite of what you would think I would do,
where you go up to someone and I like avoid
them at all parts.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That's me, That's what I do, That's what men do.
I completely ignored him.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I stood on the opposite of every room, I could
possibly the farthest point away from him, and I like
wouldn't look at him.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And I do this every day. Today.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I saw Phoebe Bridges in a coffee shop and I
didn't look at her the whole time. I was truly
like the baby was with me, and I was like
looking at the baby the whole time, just ententionly.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I was like, I don't want to be weird. I
don't want to be weird.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
And then it makes you so much more weird than
if you just were looking at them or saying hi.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It was so anyway that happened.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
And then I finally, after we'd been working together for
maybe two months, like I'm not exaggerating a really quite
a long time, I went up to him at a
crafty table and I told him my opening line was
that my boyfriend was named mister Darcy and my phone
when I was in high school, because I was so
obsessed with.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Him, and he's like, oh, that's so delightful.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
And then it was just awkward again, and I think
I like went back to like just avoiding him for
a while. But he's wonderful and after six years he's
like a good friend and I like him.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
He's wonderful.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, but I was obsessed with him in that movie
like goded. When they walked across the field to each
other and like finally kissed, it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Was just he's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
And the thing that's crazy is you realize that Matthew
was so good in that role because he like actually
is a strapping handsome he's like a protagonist. Like he's
like a total hero. He's just beautiful as a guy.
And so you're like, oh, of course you played that
so well because you, like are the most crushable human being.
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With all due respect to his wife and not, I
don't all like but he's just like incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I am having second degree happiness for you. Thank you
so much for sharing this. I'm truly so overjoyed that
you had this experience, Me too, Me too. Okay, I
have to jump to nobody wants this, but I'm staying
in the romance category. You and Noah's brother season two
is happening. Congratulations. We're all very excited about that. The
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vibes are intense. Is this gonna happen? Not that I want,
you know, him and his wife to break up, but
you guys have a vibe.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
We do have a vibe.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I think Aaron's gone on record and said that it's
not going to happen. So that's the only reason I
say I feel comfortable saying that because I feel like
the cat's already out of the bag. But you know,
it's so fun to think about because they've got weird energy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You're like, let's cross.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
That line, and then the reality of it is not
as funny the follow through. There's way more to be
mined out of us just being like weird friends with
like a strange dynamic and like the kind of like
odd couple in the friendship department.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
So I'm really excited to see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
But the will they won't day of it is gonna
come to an end.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, the tension is always the most fun. The tension
is always the most fun to watch. It's never the reward.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I agree, even with like the best love stories, it's
like always the like.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's like the gym and Pam like, except not in
real life. That's called toxic. No, because we're talking about Hollywood.
It's acting. It's fake, it's not none of but it's real,
but not in.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Our real lives. No, that's why.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
I'm not married yet.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Okay, really sweet, are you dating?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Do you have someone for me? Justine? I mean, I'm
gonna wrap my brain because you're adorable.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You're so sweet. Do you know Channing Tatum?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Is really my question.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I don't know Channing Tatum, but like I recently heard
when I was talking about how good his dance moves are,
that he's recently single.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
So this is what I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Saying, Maybe he'll get on Rayah and I'll have a shot. Okay,
this is about you. So when you weren't fantasizing about
mister Darcy and you were dating pre your husband, what
kind of dater were you?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Ooh, avoidant? I would say, I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Sensing a theme here, I'm sensing of avoiding people.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, totally, totally, totally no, totally, You've got it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's basically I would just be like I think before,
especially in my twenties, when I was and it's comfortable
with who I was, I felt like I had to
kind of hold everything at arm's length. I wouldn't want
to do sleepovers. I would leave in the morning if
I did sleepover. I like never really got very deep
into relationships. And then you kind of go like, Okay,
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there has to be a time where someone sees my
like shadow or someone really gets like a sustainable stretch
of time to see who I am, and I have
to show this person who I am in order for
there to be any I mean, nobody wants this. Does
a really good job of addressing this topic of like
showing someone who you really are and trusting them to
be able to quote unquote handle you. And so it's funny.
(24:39):
I just know I'm putting that together. But I was
like a very much in the Joyanne camp of being
an avoidant until I finally realized like I wasn't going
to get anywhere with that. And now I'm like an
intimacy junkie, Like I'm like, yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Totally you know, with my current partner.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I was just like very very transparent and open and
he was as well. And it was not hard like
you said, It wasn't a long game. It was like
really easeful feeling. And I was kind of like waiting
for the other shoe to drop the whole time, being
like when is it going to get tricky or game
playing or hard?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Like when are those things going to come out?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And they just like truly never did, which rules.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So in the show, Adam Brody hot Rabbi is in
part so hot because he's emotionally mature and available. If
you were a bit avoidant, was it your partner who
made you want to have this intimacy the way Adam
Brody did with his girlfriend in the show, or did
you make changes in your own life ahead of meeting
your partner that sort of like created this beautiful partnership.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
It was a combination.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think I made a change in my own life
and that before I met him. But I also think
that he has not with the intimacy thing because he.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Was pretty guarded at first.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I actually like met and avoid and was like I
see you. He was also like very evolved and I
think he knew that he was an avoidant and so
he like met me where I was. But I do
think in terms of like rising into the relationship, there's
like an energy that he has that like is like
he's very respectful, and he also like demands like a
certain level of respect, like just inherently in his like energy,
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not demands in like an intense like or aggressive way,
but like he's just so respectful and he's so present
and he's so kind that I like rose to the occasion,
I would say. And there was like a part of
me that also didn't play games because I was like, oh,
this person doesn't do that. That's not like permitted, and
this I intuitively can feel it, like that's not this
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guy's vibe. And so I'm going to be like I'm
not going to play any games and I'm going to
be like the best version of myself and I'm going
to like show up because he's showing up. And that
was also something that I hadn't seen before in a partnership,
like someone who is like fully there. And I think
that's another one with Adam in the show. It's like
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he just is a really good person who's like very
available and like very emotionally evolved and like ready to
take on a relationship. And I do feel like when
you're stepping into a relationship with someone like that, you
either have to like rise to the like water sticks
its own level, like you either rise to where they are.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You're not going to like it's not going to last.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know what you're describing that I make you have
with your now husband and the dynamic that Adam Brodie's
character presents on the show, it was really refreshing because
it's a healthy definition of masculinity. It's like, you know,
an inspiring type of masculinity that makes you want to
come alongside and partner with that person. And I thankfully
have that in my husband too. But yeah, I just
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loved I love celebrating examples of like really positive masculinity Totally.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Everyone was kind of like, what is it about Adaman's show?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
And I think that it's like he's sensitive and he's
soft and he's kind, but he's also direct. He has
like the masculine kind of like I want you and
I'm going to pursue you. The masculine feminine balance that
he's got going on is Chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, he was the perfect twenty twenty four rom com
character like this is the New Age, Richard Gear, the
new like the one that women want today totally.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And it's also like it's good.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's like a good thing to be like seeking out,
you know, like I yeah that women like see this
show and they're like that's what I want. I want
someone who behaves like that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, it's not a guilty pleasure. There's nothing guilty about
like loving this show. He's just good, good people. Justine,
thank you so much for joining us on the bright Side.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
We had so much fun.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Thank you, Thank you guys so much. I really I
had fun.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Justin Loop is an actor who starred in HBO's Succession
as well as Netflix Is Nobody Wants This.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
That's it for today's show.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
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adh D specialist doctor Sasha Hamdani. Join the conversation using
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Speaker 1 (29:17):
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Speaker 4 (29:23):
See you tomorrow, folks, keep looking on the bright side.
Hey Besties, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, actor
Justine Lup joins us to talk about her role in
one of the buzziest shows of the year Netflix is
Nobody Wants This. It's Tuesday, December seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Danielle Robe, I'm Simone Boyce, and this is the
bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we
come together to share women's stories, laugh, learn, and brighten
your day.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay, nobody wants This was a phenomenon.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Turns out everybody wanted it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Forbody wanted it.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I have not laughed out loud at the TV watching
a show in a very long time.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It was just so relatable too.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
If you haven't gotten on, then nobody wants this train yet.
It's a Netflix show that follows Joe Anne, who's an
agnostic podcaster she's a funny way of describing her played
by Kristin Bell, and Noah, who's a newly single rabbi
played by Adam Brody. They fall in love and they're
having to navigate their different lives and.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Their different religions. They're different families.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I was laughing so hard at the scene where Kristen
Bell meets Adam Brodie's mom and they visit his parents' house.
It is in this insanely gorgeous mansion, and then they
have the most painfully awkward brunch of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Simone, did you see that house?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, it was huge.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Imagine renting that house on Airbnb for a weekend goals.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I am so down for that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, if you're a fan of the show like us,
we have amazing news for you. It has already been
picked up for a second season and we are so excited.
We're going to do our best to get some tea
from one of the stars of the show. Today, actor
Justin Loop is here with us. She plays Morgan, who
is Joe Anne's quick witted sister and co host on
their podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You also might.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Recognize Justine from her work on other, I don't know,
moderately successful TV shows like Succession. She plays Willa in
that show and also Astrod in The Marvelous Missus Masel.
Let's go ahead and bring her in. Justin Loop, Welcome
to the bright Side.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Thank you guys for much. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And huge congratulations because nobody wants this was nominated in
the Best Musical or Comedy TV Series category for the
Gold Globes.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yes. Cool.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
If I could snap into the microphone, I would. We're
so happy to have you here and excited to talk
to you because we are huge fans of the show.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We binged it along with the rest of America. Yes,
we could not get enough of Nobody Wants This. And
you know what I was thinking as I was watching it.
You've played so many amazing characters that I've fallen in
love with, and I've noticed a through line with them.
I'm thinking of Willa from Succession and Morgan from Nobody
Wants This, and I notice that they're underestimated by just
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about everyone else in the show, all the other characters,
and yet they go on to surprise and delight the
audience with their wit, or their strategy or their strength
in certain situations. What do you think their superpowers are
these women that you've played.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I think there's superpower is I mean, you know, Morgan
does care, she wants to rise for the occasion, and
she wants to prove people wrong. But I also do
think she has a real essence of like not giving
a fuck, and Willa also had the same quality where
it was kind of like the thing that I loved
most about Willa was that she walked into this like
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group of sharks and she was kind of like untouchable
because she just didn't play by the same rules as
they did.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And I think Morgan.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Has a similar quality that's so satisfying and fun to play,
where it's like this person that, yeah, nobody expects her
to be great at what she's doing, but she's aware
of that, but she doesn't let it phase her really
and she carries herself like through it with like poison,
kind of just being like whatever, I like have fun.
Like she's got this kind of a care free thing
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and she it's like a really satisfying quality to play.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think that's like the secret power. Yeah, what do
you think your superpower is? As an actor and creative?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh that's really sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I read the book The Alchemist.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It was when I was in my late teens that
I read it, and I remember the whole premise of
the book is just keep on going back to following
your heart no matter what. And it's so simple, but
it just truly is the key to everything. That if
you're following your heart and you're you're not inhibiting what
your heart is telling you to do it leads you
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to the right things. I feel like it's led me
to like amazing relationships. I think it's led me to
the right career moves. I like don't think I lead
intellectually or like thinking about like what's going to serve me.
I'm not very savvy in that way. I think some
people that can like really work out for them, like
having some sort of like premeditated plan or like knowing
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the business. And for me, it's always just been Okay,
I'm following my heart, which is most likely going to
lead me to like good material and hard work. And
it also like helps so you feel like a trust
within yourself. You're like, okay, like my heart loves acting
and it knows that really clearly.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's something that has served me really well.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And I would say that would be if I had
a superpower, it would be that that I have a
very strong relationship to my heart.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, it served you so well because you've been on
two of the most popular shows in like the past
five years, So it seems like it's working out for
you so beautifully, So continue doing whatever you're doing.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Thank you. It's knocking on what I mean, I feel
really luck. I feel that myself.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I'm like, whoa, this is wild that you know, you
never know when something's going to like have the effect
that it has, because there's so many projects that you
read and you're like, oh, this is amazing, and then
they don't ever see the light of day, or they
just can't make it out of like the like sea
of media that's out there. They can't like rise and
into visibility. So I'm just really lucky that these are
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two shows that have resonated for people and the people
like to watch It's wild.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Justine, you graduated from juliad in twenty eleven, right, so
when you were there, did you think you would be
playing these types of characters?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
You know, it's funny. So in high school I was
really really drawn to comedy. I went to a performing
arts high school and I remember doing a scene from
Streetcar named Desire and my teacher being like, Okay, so
this isn't a comedy, like just playing it like it
was a comedy like, and it's not. And it was
my favorite kind of genre. I had the most fun
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with comedy. And then when you go to Juilliard, they
do this thing where for the first three years they
give you this stuff that you would not necessarily gravitate
towards or be cast as I think, to stretch you
and try and get you to do things that are
like way outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Honestly, the first three years of Juilliard, I was like.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Playing like old women and like the matriarch of the family,
which is like something that I was so uncomfortable with.
I just like had always played the comedic relief for
the Angenoux. Those were the two parts that I'd played,
and they were giving me these massive like the queen
or like the mom in like picnic, just like crazy
women with like gravitas, or people who are like really
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really old and like barely hanging on. And then it
wasn't until my last year at Juilliard that they like
kind of let me do a little bit more comedy.
And to answer your question succinctly, I would say, like,
I had no idea what my career would end up doing,
but I'm so happy that I've gotten to play a
little bit more with comedy lately.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's really fun.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm curious about Justine in between graduating from Juilliard and
getting her first big role, were you the type of
person that's auditioning and like having fun with it and
meeting people, or are you the type of person that's
auditioning and going nuts over not getting a role and
thinking like what's next?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
How am I.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Gonna make this work?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who were you in that time period?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I think I was like somewhere in between those two things.
I still I have friends from that time, and they're like, wow,
like they had memories of me just like holing up
and like just sitting with sides. I had the mentality
of like, the only thing I really can do to
like control the situation, which is completely uncontrollable, is just
like put my head down and like work really really hard.
And I remember also having like terrible nerves because it
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was so weird, like walking into all these rooms and
doing auditions and I'd never done it before.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And I remember just being like the only.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Thing I can do is like just get these lines
like as molecularly absorbed into me that I don't get swayed,
Like my nerves can't screw.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
With me doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yeah, So I remember being like really like intensely serious
about it. But I also don't remember being too bitter
or too heartbroken. I mean, I remember the very beginning,
it was like you would fall in love but the part,
and you'd be like, you would be sad when it
didn't happen, and that still happens once in a while.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But you also it's kind.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Of like exposure therapy, Like the more rejections you get,
the more you're like, oh, this is just the way
that it goes and you get used to that feeling
of it's not personal and that life goes on and
that things don't work out your way all the time.
But it I don't know, there's something like magic to
the exposure to rejection that you get as an actor,
(09:27):
and I think I handled it pretty well. We've got
to take a quick break. We'll be right back with
actor Justine Loop. And we're back with Justin Loop.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Tell me if this is correct or not.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
It sounds to me like you've actually had like a
pretty positive experience in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's not a story I hear all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
M Yeah, I feel like I've had really good luck
of being with good people and not running into too
much dark energy. I'm not like a real partier and
I'm not like the most social person in the world.
So I think it was like, LA can kind of
be like a make your own adventure in terms of
(10:19):
like picking the people that you're hanging out with. And
I had a lot of friends from when I was
younger that were here, my brother's here, and I feel
like I kind of like veered away from some things
that can lead to like some rough situations. And yeah,
and then on top of that, I just really lucked
out on being in really good shows with great creators
(10:41):
and really great number ones, Like the people who are
number one on the call sheet really set the tone
for like the rest of the show. And I've had
the luck of being on shows with like wonderful, wonderful
leaders and that can like make or break an experience,
and I've been really, really lucky.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
One of the Hollywood stories that made headlines about you
was when you shared that you were pregnant while auditioning
for Nobody Wants This, But you chose not to share
that news right away.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What went into that decision.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I hid my pregnancy in the beginning, just for the
first three months, because that part of your pregnancy is
so vulnerable, Like thirty percent of women have miscarriages in
those first three months. You know, it's like a pretty
crazy high stat of you know, losses, and so I
kind of was like, I don't know if I want
(11:34):
to share this with people that I'm not comfortable mourning
with or letting it go with or talk disclosing like
if there is a loss. I wasn't scared to tell
my my colleagues about the pregnancy. I told them as
soon as I was safe to tell them, like as
soon as I was out of the woods with my
first trimester, I told everyone on the show that that
was what was going on with me and kind of
(11:55):
just trusted that it would be okay. It was like
a little bit scary because there is a near of
like that we've all been around for a really long
time of like, you know, having kids is something that
can like stall your career and that people are not
supportive of that in this industry. But I had seen
Sarah Snook go through it on succession, and I've had
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other friends who did done their best work pregnant, and
I also, you know, I had a tiny bit of fear.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
About how it would go over.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
But I also was like, you know what this is, like,
this is where we're at now, Like I'm not going
to stop acting. And I felt like I intuited that
everybody would be really, really wonderful about it, and I
was right, you know, the moment that I told everyone,
they were really kind about it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Completely, And I asked, because I think that that narrative
is so real, it's so prevalent. I grew up feeling
that way even in my industry and media. I thought, Oh,
I have to make it by thirty so that I
can have a family. Otherwise I can't make the career work.
And I had to unlearn that. So I was curious
(12:59):
to hear your perspective on it. Yeah, that fear comes
from like a real place. There's like a long history
of like that being the case, you know. Like I
just was watching the Paul Newman and Joyan Woodward documentary
thing on.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
HBO where it's like six parts and she talks about
how she was like at this all time high and
she like her career was like crazy, she was getting
nominated for Academy Awards and winning, and then she says,
like I had children and like you just can't do
both in they're like my I couldn't have my career
and like she's very very like upfront about being Like
(13:36):
she says, I wish I hadn't had children, Like it's
really intense, and so it's like there's a good reason
that we're all afraid of, like that there is this
like you know, ethos around it. But I also think
that like it's just a bunch of bowl and like that,
I've seen women doing the best work ever and being
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incredible mom And I really think that the industry should,
if not if they aren't already, they should be rising
to the occasion to meet this kind of like you know,
new new wave of incredible women who are also moms.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
We all work in Los Angeles, in Hollywood, you know,
in careers that are on camera. But and I'm so
happy to hear how receptive everyone was on your set, Justine.
The reality is there are women all over this country,
all over this world who are still, you know, working
in environments where they do feel shame about their pregnancies,
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you know, or they do feel like they're treated differently
at work. So that reality still exists for so many
women today. And I can remember when I was coming
back from my maternity leave, when I was working as
a reporter. I came back Fromnity leave. I was working
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for about four months, and then I had to work
up the courage to tell my boss that I was
pregnant again with a surprise pregnancy. And I just remember
feeling that fear so viscerally because people would come up
to me and say, you know, it's amazing you're still
here in the newsroom, you're working, you're so pregnant. Like
I can remember five ten years ago when this was
not the case, you know, when when correspondence would have
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been pushed out, would have removed themselves from their careers
because of this.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So it's it's also fresh, oh totally.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I mean I had several friends of mine when I
said that, I'd be like, oh yeah, I've had bosses
say rude, rude basically like scorn them for saying that
they were pregnant, or like make discourage in commons. So
this isn't to say that like, oh my gosh, every
like to deny the fact that this is still an
issue and that we've got like a long way to go.
I just feel like things have to start somewhere, and
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unfortunately it starts with us having the courage to try
and make progress, like and try and be open and
then it has to carry over.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Into people making the right moves.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
And I think there is something too seeing expanders and
knowing that it's a possibility. And that's not to say
that it's always going to go as smoothly as it
went for me, and I know that it very often
does not go that way, but it was an important
thing for me to hear, and so it was something
that I wanted other women to hear coming from me.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I love talking to other mothers who are working, still
pursuing their dreams and still feeling creatively energized. And I'm curious,
what is one way that motherhood has changed your perspective?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Oh gosh, I mean there's a lot. I think that
it's kind of brought me to my knees.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, because you just are left in like a very
very It's like a simultaneously really powerful state but also
like a vulnerable state, and you're learning everything all over again.
And birth in itself really brought me to my niece,
and also to know that I'm like at the very
beginning of a long I don't know how much further
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along you are than I am, but that there's like
so many unknowns and to feel that again. I think
sometimes you get into autopilot, and this is like just
being completely taken out of autopilot and thrown into like baby,
I'm like a baby. I'm trying to figure out how
this is all going to go. I don't know what
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it's going to be like to be on set and
navigating being a mom and being at work and how
to like make that all happen. Let alone, I'm navigating
how to help my child fart. Like, it's just like
you're brought back to the most elementary version of yourself.
I feel like I'm in hyperdrive, just trying to catch
up with the circumstances, the given circumstances, and then there's
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like all these beautiful surprises along the way. It's not
just a struggle. It's amazing. But it's really like thrown
me into a different mode of thinking than I was
just four months ago.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, it's an awakening.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I love that you said that that it really kind
of like shook you out of autopilot at such a
great point totally.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
It's like the learning curve is insane. Yeah, And like
we do all this like prep for pregnancy, and there's
like all these books that I was reading while I
was pregnant on How to be Pregnant, and then like
you get to the fourth trimester.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
And you're like, where was this?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
And then it's just like scrambling to like figure it
all out and you never can, which is also wild.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We have to take another short break, but don't go anywhere.
We'll be right back to our conversation with Justine Loop.
And we're back with actor Justine Loop. So, Justine, I
don't want to jump around shows, but I read something
that really interested me. You said that Matthew mcphaden, who
(19:08):
famously played mister Darcy in Pride and Prejudice, who was
in Succession, was your teenage crush. Yeah, okay, I'm having
a meltdown for you because don't make fun of me.
But like, Channing, Tatum or Usher were my teenage crushes.
And if I got to work with Channing Tatum or Usher,
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and like if I got to do a talk show
with either of them, I would absolutely die. I don't
know how you were on set with your teenage crush.
Can you please explain this to me.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I didn't handle it great. I mean I was totally
nerdy and like and I was nervous.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I was really weird. I do this thing where.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
If there's someone that I'm like a fan of or
that I have a crush on or whatever, I do
like the opposite of what you would think I would do,
where you go up to someone and I like avoid
them at all parts.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That's me, That's what I do, That's what men do.
I completely ignored him.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I stood on the opposite of every room, I could
possibly the farthest point away from him, and I like
wouldn't look at him.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And I do this every day. Today.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I saw Phoebe Bridges in a coffee shop and I
didn't look at her the whole time. I was truly
like the baby was with me, and I was like
looking at the baby the whole time, just ententionly.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I was like, I don't want to be weird. I
don't want to be weird.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
And then it makes you so much more weird than
if you just were looking at them or saying hi.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It was so anyway that happened.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
And then I finally, after we'd been working together for
maybe two months, like I'm not exaggerating a really quite
a long time, I went up to him at a
crafty table and I told him my opening line was
that my boyfriend was named mister Darcy and my phone
when I was in high school, because I was so
obsessed with.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Him, and he's like, oh, that's so delightful.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
And then it was just awkward again, and I think
I like went back to like just avoiding him for
a while. But he's wonderful and after six years he's
like a good friend and I like him.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
He's wonderful.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, but I was obsessed with him in that movie
like goded. When they walked across the field to each
other and like finally kissed, it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Was just he's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
And the thing that's crazy is you realize that Matthew
was so good in that role because he like actually
is a strapping handsome he's like a protagonist. Like he's
like a total hero. He's just beautiful as a guy.
And so you're like, oh, of course you played that
so well because you, like are the most crushable human being.
(21:31):
With all due respect to his wife and not, I
don't all like but he's just like incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I am having second degree happiness for you. Thank you
so much for sharing this. I'm truly so overjoyed that
you had this experience, Me too, Me too. Okay, I
have to jump to nobody wants this, but I'm staying
in the romance category. You and Noah's brother season two
is happening. Congratulations. We're all very excited about that. The
(22:01):
vibes are intense. Is this gonna happen? Not that I want,
you know, him and his wife to break up, but
you guys have a vibe.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
We do have a vibe.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I think Aaron's gone on record and said that it's
not going to happen. So that's the only reason I
say I feel comfortable saying that because I feel like
the cat's already out of the bag. But you know,
it's so fun to think about because they've got weird energy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You're like, let's cross.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
That line, and then the reality of it is not
as funny the follow through. There's way more to be
mined out of us just being like weird friends with
like a strange dynamic and like the kind of like
odd couple in the friendship department.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
So I'm really excited to see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
But the will they won't day of it is gonna
come to an end.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, the tension is always the most fun. The tension
is always the most fun to watch. It's never the reward.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I agree, even with like the best love stories, it's
like always the like.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's like the gym and Pam like, except not in
real life. That's called toxic. No, because we're talking about Hollywood.
It's acting. It's fake, it's not none of but it's real,
but not in.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Our real lives. No, that's why.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
I'm not married yet.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Okay, really sweet, are you dating?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Do you have someone for me? Justine? I mean, I'm
gonna wrap my brain because you're adorable.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You're so sweet. Do you know Channing Tatum?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Is really my question.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I don't know Channing Tatum, but like I recently heard
when I was talking about how good his dance moves are,
that he's recently single.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
So this is what I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Saying, Maybe he'll get on Rayah and I'll have a shot. Okay,
this is about you. So when you weren't fantasizing about
mister Darcy and you were dating pre your husband, what
kind of dater were you?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Ooh, avoidant? I would say, I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Sensing a theme here, I'm sensing of avoiding people.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, totally, totally, totally no, totally, You've got it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's basically I would just be like I think before,
especially in my twenties, when I was and it's comfortable
with who I was, I felt like I had to
kind of hold everything at arm's length. I wouldn't want
to do sleepovers. I would leave in the morning if
I did sleepover. I like never really got very deep
into relationships. And then you kind of go like, Okay,
(24:17):
there has to be a time where someone sees my
like shadow or someone really gets like a sustainable stretch
of time to see who I am, and I have
to show this person who I am in order for
there to be any I mean, nobody wants this. Does
a really good job of addressing this topic of like
showing someone who you really are and trusting them to
be able to quote unquote handle you. And so it's funny.
(24:39):
I just know I'm putting that together. But I was
like a very much in the Joyanne camp of being
an avoidant until I finally realized like I wasn't going
to get anywhere with that. And now I'm like an
intimacy junkie, Like I'm like, yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Totally you know, with my current partner.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I was just like very very transparent and open and
he was as well. And it was not hard like
you said, It wasn't a long game. It was like
really easeful feeling. And I was kind of like waiting
for the other shoe to drop the whole time, being
like when is it going to get tricky or game
playing or hard?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Like when are those things going to come out?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And they just like truly never did, which rules.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So in the show, Adam Brody hot Rabbi is in
part so hot because he's emotionally mature and available. If
you were a bit avoidant, was it your partner who
made you want to have this intimacy the way Adam
Brody did with his girlfriend in the show, or did
you make changes in your own life ahead of meeting
your partner that sort of like created this beautiful partnership.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
It was a combination.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think I made a change in my own life
and that before I met him. But I also think
that he has not with the intimacy thing because he.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Was pretty guarded at first.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I actually like met and avoid and was like I
see you. He was also like very evolved and I
think he knew that he was an avoidant and so
he like met me where I was. But I do
think in terms of like rising into the relationship, there's
like an energy that he has that like is like
he's very respectful, and he also like demands like a
certain level of respect, like just inherently in his like energy,
(26:19):
not demands in like an intense like or aggressive way,
but like he's just so respectful and he's so present
and he's so kind that I like rose to the occasion,
I would say. And there was like a part of
me that also didn't play games because I was like, oh,
this person doesn't do that. That's not like permitted, and
this I intuitively can feel it, like that's not this
(26:41):
guy's vibe. And so I'm going to be like I'm
not going to play any games and I'm going to
be like the best version of myself and I'm going
to like show up because he's showing up. And that
was also something that I hadn't seen before in a partnership,
like someone who is like fully there. And I think
that's another one with Adam in the show. It's like
(27:01):
he just is a really good person who's like very
available and like very emotionally evolved and like ready to
take on a relationship. And I do feel like when
you're stepping into a relationship with someone like that, you
either have to like rise to the like water sticks
its own level, like you either rise to where they are.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You're not going to like it's not going to last.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know what you're describing that I make you have
with your now husband and the dynamic that Adam Brodie's
character presents on the show, it was really refreshing because
it's a healthy definition of masculinity. It's like, you know,
an inspiring type of masculinity that makes you want to
come alongside and partner with that person. And I thankfully
have that in my husband too. But yeah, I just
(27:43):
loved I love celebrating examples of like really positive masculinity Totally.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Everyone was kind of like, what is it about Adaman's show?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
And I think that it's like he's sensitive and he's
soft and he's kind, but he's also direct. He has
like the masculine kind of like I want you and
I'm going to pursue you. The masculine feminine balance that
he's got going on is Chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, he was the perfect twenty twenty four rom com
character like this is the New Age, Richard Gear, the
new like the one that women want today totally.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And it's also like it's good.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's like a good thing to be like seeking out,
you know, like I yeah that women like see this
show and they're like that's what I want. I want
someone who behaves like that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, it's not a guilty pleasure. There's nothing guilty about
like loving this show. He's just good, good people. Justine,
thank you so much for joining us on the bright Side.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
We had so much fun.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Thank you, Thank you guys so much. I really I
had fun.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Justin Loop is an actor who starred in HBO's Succession
as well as Netflix Is Nobody Wants This.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
That's it for today's show.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Tomorrow, are Ee opening conversation with board certified psychiatrist and
adh D specialist doctor Sasha Hamdani. Join the conversation using
hashtag the bright Side and connect with us on social
media at Hello Sunshine on Instagram and at the bright
Side Pod on TikTok Oh, and feel free to tag
us at Simone Voice and at Danielle Robe.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Listen and follow The bright Side on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 4 (29:23):
See you tomorrow, folks, keep looking on the bright side.
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