January 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Showrunner Tim Palazzola joins Danielle and Simone for another laughter-filled episode. They pop off on Oscar nominations, love lessons from Khloé Kardashian, and whether or not they’ve ever “quiet vacationed.” Plus, they share their predictions for the biggest fashion trends of 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey vesties, Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today on the bright side, we're popping off on the
biggest pop culture moments of the week. We're talking Oscar nominations,
the fashion trends to watch in twenty twenty five, and
move over quiet quitting? Have you heard of quiet vacationing?
Sounds better? Right, let's get into it. It's Friday, January
twenty fourth. I'm simoone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this
(00:25):
is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Danielle, Happy Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Happy Friday. What a week. I'm so excited to be
here with you and laugh.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Today we have some really fun topics we're getting into and.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It is a family affair.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Today we have everyone's favorite showrunner, including ours. It's mister
Tim Palazzolo with us again. You're supposed to do I
can't do the sound effects. That's oh sorry, you wanted
the There we go?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Does my flu induce? This is my flu airhorn.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, in case anyone forgot. He's a six time Emmy
winner and the executive producer of some huge unscripted shows
of the past decade, RuPaul's Drag Race, Ink Master, Fear Factor,
and Bar Rescue.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Tim Welcome back to the bright side.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Thank you, thank you. I also want to thank you
for that airhorn. I think in my contract moving forward,
I'm going to say anytime anyone introduces me, it needs
to be followed by a flu induced airhorn. So thank you,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So you're going to have to carry Simone around in
your pocket.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Oh my god, joined the hit from here or not?
And I want to start today's show by wishing you
a happy birthday. Simone. Your birthday is this week. Oh
my gosh, the airhorn for you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much. We also need
to wish Danielle happy birthday. She's also a January girly too.
I'm just happy did though, don't deflect. We want to
know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Are you having a prea Parker Stamp celebration? What's going on?
I had a mini pre Parker Stamp celebration, you guys know.
I always like to launch into the new year with joy.
I like to have like a joy filled January, And
to be honest, life started lifing this year and January
has looked a lot different for a lot of us
in California than we ever expected. But so I was
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kind of on the fence, like do I get some
friends together?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Do I not? But eventually my friends were like, we
still need to celebrate, we still need reasons to celebrate,
and we still need joy. So we just had like
a little intimate dinner party and got to catch up
with everyone here, everyone's rose and Thorn and it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Was just amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Oh that sounds so lovely.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's my sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I love a six person dinner party, like, that's perfect.
Totally okay. As always, we have had a really killer
week of shows, Tim, what stands out when you think
of this week's Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Oh my god, what an incredible week of shows. You know,
I I was so moved by your conversation with Rita
Amoka on Martin Luther King Junior Day. She shared these
amazing stories of some of the lesser known black activists
who they've really ignited some of the civil rights movements
that have been at the heart of change in this country.
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And you know, on Martin Luther King Junior Day and
on other holidays like the fourth of July, Labor Day
and Memorial Day, we've had the opportunity to share some
of these stories of these trailblazing women that haven't always
been celebrated by the history books. And what sticks with
me through all of these stories is that, you know,
we can all face darkness and we can all lose
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a sense of hope. Rita and the women that she
celebrates really serve as a reminder that when you stand
up for what you believe in, change is possible. And
her spirit is infectious.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
She made me even more passionate about this aspect of history.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And I love that you said darkness because that's sort
of a callback to one of mlk's famous quotes, which
is darkness cannot drive out darkness.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Only light can do that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I love that.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Another person that graced our podcast this week was Lashawna Lynch.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Guys, how much do we love Lashana Lynch?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You guys, I'm obsessed with Lynch.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
She's a right side betstie if we've ever had one.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I'm kind of sad she's not on social media because
I can't keep in touch with her. But Lashawna girl,
if you're listening, just know that we'd love you.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You're a star.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
After that interview, I immediately went and started watching A
Day of the Jackal. Yeah, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh my god, we know her.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
We just talk to her.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, my parents started watching the show because of the interview.
I mean, in case you haven't listened to it yet.
Shawna made history as the first black female agent in
the James Bond franchise, and when she was with us,
she dropped the spy tip that Simone and Tim and
I cannot stop talking about. She said, trained spies don't
stress about asking the right questions. Instead, they have these
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really natural, organic conversations and if you keep them talking
long enough, they know the other person is going to
divulge all the things that you need.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So genius.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
But I actually think that questions are still the key
to getting people to divulge it, and you can mask
it in like a natural, organic way. I sound like
a sociopath now that I'm expressing this to you guys,
but I think you if you ask the right questions
and at leads people to the Larry place, I think
maybe it's maybe the correct spy advice is somewhere in
the middle. Okay, switching gears here though, y'all. Danielle, your
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conversation with doctor Kathleen Smith, I mean, eye opening. It
was all about people pleasing. I learned so much listening
back to this conversation. I mean, she really reminded us
that people are still animals at our core, and we
actually have a lot that we can learn from other
animals about people pleasing, which I never thought about.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it's such a reminder that people pleasing is so human,
all social creatures do it. It kind of took all
the pressure off, like, Okay, we people please sometimes.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I'm thinking back on what else we did. Oh, we
had an amazing interview with Maureen Goo. She wrote Throwback,
which is the Reese's book club winter Yapick. It's a
book inspired by Back to the Future, and I loved
hearing her talk about nostalgia and how it really helped
her bring this story to life. But listen up, y'all.
Our week of great shows isn't over yet. Before we
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pop off, though, it's time for this week's spotlight. Today
we're honoring women's rights activist and the longtime leader of
planned parenthood, Cecile Richards. She passed away on Monday at
age sixty seven following a battle with brain cancer.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Cecile Richards was one of the most well known defenders
of abortion rights and the former president of Planned Parenthood,
which is the country's largest provider of reproductive health care
and sex education. And she was born into activism. Her
mom was a Democratic governor of Texas and her dad
was a civil rights lawyer.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And even before she started her.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Tenure at Planned Parenthood, she worked as a labor organizer
and founder of a get out the vote organization. So
under her leadership, Planned Parenthood became a political powerhouse. It
expanded its support and volunteer base from two and a
half million to an astonishing eleven million people, and today
it remains the nation's largest provider of reproductive health care,
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which is such a testament to her unwavering dedication. And
I think the real marker of Cecil's character was her
absolute relentlessness even in the face of attacks. Like during
her tenure, state legislators across the country continually sought to
defund clinics and chip away at abortion access, and yet
she never wavered in her advocacy for comprehensive reproductive care,
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which included breast and cervical cancer screenings, HIV prevention, abortion
access so much more.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Cecil was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by former
President Biden late last year, and during the ceremony, President
Biden called her a leader of the utmost character, saying, quote,
She's led some of our nation's most important civil rights
causes to lift up the dignity of workers, defend and
advance women's reproductive rights in a quality, and mobilize Americans
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to exercise their power to vote.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know, she was absolutely relentless until the end. Even
after her diagnosis in twenty twenty three, she was working
and advocating and pushing people to get out and vote.
And she wore this bracelet that said keep going. So
in her honor, I think that's what we all have
to do. We have to just keep going. Okay, Tim Simone,
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are we ready to pop off?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Let's do it, LFG.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Okay, y'all, we got to start with one of the
biggest stories of the week, without question, that is the
Oscar nominations. They were announced early yesterday morning by Bowen
Yang and comedian Rachel Sennett. And here are the biggest takeaways. Okay, So,
Emilia Perez is continuing its winning street, crushing it with
thirteen Oscar nominations, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress,
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and Best Supporting Actress for Carlo Sofia Gascon and Zoe Saldana.
Important to note Carlos off Via Gascon is making history
here as the first openly transactor to receive an Oscar nomination. Okay,
then we have Wicked and The Brutalist coming in second
place with ten nominations each, A complete unknown Timothy Shallames,
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Bob Dylan, Biopic and Conclave each got eight nominations and
Noora received six. Also, our girls Cynthia Rivo Ariana Grande
both nominated for Wicked. I feel like that's a lot
of words for me for right now. I'm going to
give the floor to everyone else. Do we feel like
do we feel like justice was served in the Oscar
nominations this year?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think it is quite a diverse and dynamic group
of actors, actresses and movies. And what I really love
about these award shows, the Oscars in particular some of
the Golden Globes, is that it really gives audiences an
opportunity to take note of films that they may not
already have on their radars, some of the movies that
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don't have the big marketing budgets. I mean, we saw Wicked,
for six months, so everyone knew Wicked was coming out,
and some of these other films didn't have that same
marketing budget. I know, personally, when I see these types
of nominations come out, it makes me want to go
see all of those films. But I am curious because
Emilia Perez did amazing. I think that this is a
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really polarizing film because I know people that hated it
got like ten minutes in. I can see the two
of you are nodding along. I personally loved it, but
I feel like y'all did not.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I tried. I've tried watching it a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I'm not sure that it's for me, but that being said,
I really do want to like it, and I feel
like I feel like this is in my This is
in my Venn diagram because I love musicals and I
love musical movies. So maybe I just wasn't in the
right headspace. You know how sometimes you start a movie
and you're like, I'm not even in the right zone
here for this.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That might be what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I couldn't follow along, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I really hesitate to critique art because making art is
so difficult and consuming. It is so easy, Like, we
have absolutely no idea what it takes to create a
film like Amelia Perez, and I'm all here for the
history making.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I love me some Zoe Saldana.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
She's just fantastic in this film.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
She's so talented. So this is not a critique of
any of the people in it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I do not like the film. I could not follow it.
It's so not in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I wish, in the spirit of twenty twenty five, when
transparency is everywhere, that we could have a better understanding
from the Academy of how they make these decisions. I
want to understand their criteria because how I'm judging a
film is clearly not the same as how they're judging it,
and I just I need to know their criteria.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
That's really that's really interesting, Yeah, because you you definitely
see a common nation of films that were huge blockbuster
types films. You know, Wicked Dune Part two were huge
at the box office, but you know, and Amelia Perez
did amazing on Netflix, but some of these other movies
didn't have the same type of reach.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean, the substance like that movie is boundary breaking.
It's saying something like I'm really, I was moved, I
was thinking about it, I was having conversations after it.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
H That movie has stuck with me so much. Also,
Anora was so fantastic, Tod, either of you see Anura.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm obsessed with the Noura. It might be like my
number one film of the year.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So good and honestly, I mean, Wicked, what a film.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
What a film. I'm curious if Wicked is going to
dominate at the Oscars. It didn't dominate at the Golden
Globes the way that I think a lot of people
were predicting, and it is a really outstanding movie. And
I do think that there are times where we think
about the Oscars. You know, do we do we celebrate
movies that do well for you know, at the box office?
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Are we celebrating some of these smaller independent films. I
feel like we haven't seen a film dominate both at
the box office and with OSCAR nominations or wins since
like Titanic. Yeah, so I'll be really interested to see
what happens. But what I love about this in particular
is even what we're doing, it's sparking conversation because art
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and films are always going to be subjective, and it's
always going to be how we feel about things and
how we resonate with them. All right, Oscar's party at
my house.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yes, I'm down.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
All right, We've.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Got to take a quick break from popping off, but
we'll be right back and we're back to popping off
with Tim Palazola.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, guys, have you have you heard of this thing
called quiet vacationing. No, you've heard of quiet quitting, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard of quiet quitting. Yeah. That's
just basically doing the bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
For your job, right yeah, Like you're quietly quitting while
you're still at work, basically until you actually quit. So
there's this new trend called quiet vacationing, and it's when
remote workers travel to other states, even other countries without
telling their bosses they're essentially on vacation, but maintaining the
illusion that they're working, like they're logging into their computers
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when they need.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So like bit yes, but like picture one of us
on a beach, drink in hand, but making sure to
hop on the microphone just enough to look active online
and type some notes into our production scripts. But I
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mean this trend has gained serious traction as remote work
has become more and more common. What are your immediate
reactions to this? Because I have to say, I don't
hate it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I don't hate it. I've done it right, I've done it.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You can work from anywhere.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
If you're remote, you can work from anywhere. And because
the way technology has made things so much more accessible,
I think it's I think we've learned that you don't
have to be physically in an office to be able
to get your work done. I did this a couple
of years ago, and I was in I actually went
to Costa Rica, and you know, the people that needed
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to know new but the people that didn't need to
know didn't know. So I was able to still participate
in things when I needed to. But I still felt
like I couldn't relax and enjoy my vacation because I
felt like I would have to be on or I'd
have to be present, or I'd have to be checking
my emails, or I had to be in some way
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participating in what was going on. I couldn't fully disconnect
from what was going on. So I while I appreciate
what technology is allowed us to do, I still think
people need to be able to completely disconnect for a minute.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I definitely have done this, but I tell you, guys,
when I'm going on vacation and still podcasting.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
But that's like in the way that when you were
in office, you're like, I'm working from home. That's the
equivalent to me, I say, ye, do it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, this is the thing about jobs. Here's the thing
about jobs.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Okay, You've got to get everything that you can possibly
get out of that job while you're there. Because what
I've realized over the course of my career is the
company does not care about you. So you have to
care about yourself. So if that means if that means.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I make someone because I fall in love with people
at the company, and then I'm like, oh no, they
care I care about them, they care about me.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Ah, you can care about the people, but the company, right,
even the people. You will be shocked. People will move
on so quick, like that's the thing. You are replaceable,
you know. But Okay, the reason why I brought this
up is like, just take advantage of remote work if
your job allows you to do that, you know, take
advantage of the relationships that you can build at that job.
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Take advantage of the opportunities to upskill while you're at
that job.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Can you take a course?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Will they cover some sort of continuing education for you
get the most that you can get out of your job.
Because it will never no one will ever like hand
that to you. You've got to take it yourself. What
are your thoughts on this quiet vacationing, Danielle, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So here for it. I feel like I agree with Simone.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You have to take advantage of the opportunity you're given.
You're not always able to be remote, So if you
can be and you're still doing your best work, then
I think and sometimes when you're like happier and joyful,
you are doing even better work. Quiet quitting, on the
other hand, I despise.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I'm not I think, oh right either.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, that seems so awful.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And you know, we sort of like Pooh pooh, we
turn our nose down at large corporations in our country,
and for some good reasons, you know, sometimes they take
advantage of the environment, et cetera. And some large corporations
do so much good for our country and employ so
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many people. And so whether you're working for a small
corporation or a large corporation, to take advantage of that
and to like just be phoning it in. I think,
is you're laughing at me, Tim, But I just think
it's Somethingielle defending corporate America.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I know, I really am.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I believe in like doing your best. I know, is
that corny, you guys?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I used to quiet quit when I was in my twenties,
and I was just like, so, I was so selfish
and so singularly focused on like whatever the next job was,
because I had a lot of survival jobs that I
didn't want to be in, but it was always a
stepping stone for the next one. And I totally quiet quit,
And thankfully I had people who like were mature enough
to pull me aside and be like, hey, this is
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not a good look. You need to like, even if
you're disinterested in a job, like you still need to
give your all until you're gone.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah. People remember your work ethic, people remember who you are.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, and sometimes those things come back around.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah. I would much rather quiet vacation than quiet quit
for you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I'd rather vacation than quit period.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
So are we taping the bright side from the Bahamas?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think the whole point of this was that we
have to go to home.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
We have to take a vacation. Okay, os, there's party
of my house and then we'll go to the Bahamas
in the summer.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Keeping things moving here, y'all. I want to ask you
about Chloe Kardashian. She's out with a brand new podcast.
It's called Chloe in Wonderland and it premiered this week.
And in one of the episodes, she was talking to
Jay Shetty. You guys know who Jayshetty is, right, He's
kind of like that personal development self help guru that's
always everywhere. So they were talking about all things love
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and she told him that she's actually not ashamed of
her romantic past, which if you've been keeping up with
the Kardashians for as long as we have, twenty years, yeah, yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We've been keeping up with them.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
At least I've been keeping up with them for longer,
like for more than half my life.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
There are kids that don't know a world without the Kardashians.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's wild, it's wild. But anyways, if you've been keeping
up with the Kardashians over the years, you know that
her romantic past has been a sore spot. There was
her ex husband Lamar Odom, who struggled pretty publicly with
addiction issues, and then Tristan Thompson, who was repeatedly caught
cheating on her with other women, including when Chloe was
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pregnant with their first child. I'm sorry, that's unforgivable, but
Chloe says even despite all of that, she's been able
to find gratitude for those experiences. She says, quote, I
also think it's one of my superpowers that I went
through those things and I still have such a softness
for love and life. Chloe Kardashian really has a point here, Guys.
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This is a really mature This is an evolved take
on our romantic paths.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I do agree. I mean, I also sort of think
that it is human nature to take what you what
has been thrown at you in life and try to
make lemonade out of lemons, and it's it's a great
skill that humans have.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So did she sort of do that? I think?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So did she need to necessarily go through all that?
I don't know, you know, I mean I had a
therapist one time. I've talked about this on the show.
I had one really brutal breakup with a guy that
was just not a good person ultimately, and my therapist look.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Sorry to interrupt, but did you know he was a
bad person when you were in it?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
No, there were like little signs. But when you're with somebody,
what I think happens is they like love bomb you
in the beginning, so they're like amazing and perfect fall
in love with them, and then slowly this stuff seeps through,
but you're already in love, so you kind of make
excuses in your mind. It's this like slow burn. And
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then he sort of did a one to eighty when
we broke up and I saw his true colors. But she,
my therapist, looked at me one day and said, you know,
you could have gone your whole life without ever meeting
someone like this, And I'll never forget that, because I
was like, oh wow, I actually didn't need all of
this trauma, even though I can say now that it's
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made me more empathetic. I think I'm a better interviewer
because I understand pain differently, Like it did add all
of these things to my life.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Ultimately, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Know if I needed that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Maybe I could have found.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It way totally. Yeah, What I think is powerful about
this statement is that she's really acknowledging that she's not
going to let anyone else dim her light.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I think we can all go through experiences, and we
have at the end of the day, we have a
choice whether we let those things define us or we
get to define ourselves. You know, the worst dating experience
I ever had, I was dating someone who at the
end of it, I found out that he was using
his dying parents as a way to manipulate and cheat
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on me. I knew when we got together that his
mom was really sick and his dad was really sick,
and we and it was it was just really magical
in the beginning, and we would make plans and at
the last minu he would say, oh my god, my
dad pulled his catheter out. I need to go to
the er to visit him. Or we would have a
plan to go away for the weekend, and the night
before he would say, oh my god, my mom is
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really sick. I need to go spend the weekend with her.
And it wasn't until like right after we broke up,
I found out that he had been seeing someone else
throughout the course of it, and I was so incredibly correct. Yes,
and I just replay some of it. I would have
behaved the same way, you know. I he would be like,
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my mom is in the er and I was making
care packages or you know, I was doing a lot.
You know, at no moment where was I going to say, no,
we have to go see Bridesmaids. We have tickets. Your
mom is fine, you know. Yeah. But I think about
some of that, and I my heart hardened a little
bit after that because I just couldn't believe that someone
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could do that to another person.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But such, I would just want to touch on what
you just said, because your heart hardening is such a
beautiful way of saying what it is. I sometimes missed
the person I was before that piece of me.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Was taken or that was like there was almost.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
An innocence to love and relationships.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
At the same time, you guys, If those people didn't
take that spark or that innocence from you, someone else
or something else would have.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah. But I do wonder had I not gone through that,
if the relationship I have now would be different because
I immediately set some boundaries early on that allowed me
to preserve who I was as an individual that I
wasn't compromising myself at all along the way. So did
(25:22):
I need to go through that, like your therapist said,
probably not, But you know, I think we are all
the sum of all of our experiences. And there was
there was a somalier that I talked to a while
ago who said something that I thought was really magical
about life. And she was talking specifically about wine, and
(25:45):
she said that the grapes and the vines that have
some of the harder time thriving make the more complex
and dynamic and beautiful wines versus the ones that you
know have it so easy with all the right conditions
and all the right temperature. Some of sometimes those grapes
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are just sort of relatively boring. So I always think
of that and knowledge anyway think about life.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I agree, Yeah, I wouldn't go back, And even though
I miss her sometimes, I wouldn't go back and ask
for that girl.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm proud of who she became. Do you feel that way?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I definitely feel that way. And I think I'm probably
also solely responsible for Adele having over two billion streams
because I listened to that album twenty one on repeat
over and over.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Such a cliche.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I love that crying in the car, crying in the show.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Oh, totally, totally taking walks on the beach, lamenting. So
I know you got married early, but did you have
any horrible dating experiences?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Oh gosh, I do I do?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
To be honest, like I was pretty avoidant, Like I
didn't get into a lot of long term relationships with people.
And I think that's I think that's just like a
holdover of like coping mechanisms that I developed in childhood.
And what I was thinking about as you were talking, Tim,
is that it seems like the entire challenge of life
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is can you hold space for your past experiences and
compartmentalize it so that you don't bring it into this relationship?
And maybe compartmentalizes isn't even a fair term, because you
have to deal with it and you have to heal it.
But that seems like the challenge both in romantic relationships
and in parenting too.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Oh interesting, sure, yeah, really great point to me.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The most powerful thing that Chloe said is that she
believes that she still has this superpower to still believe
in love and to still move through the world with
an open heart. And I think that that is a
really underdiscussed element of like of life and being able
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to bounce back from heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's such a beautiful message.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, it's time for another short break, but we'll be
right back with Tim Palasola. And we're back with Tim Palasola.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, you too.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Marie Claire is out with their predictions for the biggest
fashion trends of twenty twenty five. I want to take
a little walk down the runway with you. I want
to see what you think about these predictions. Okay, So overall,
they predict that we're going to continue to see a
move away from the minimalism that's been so popular over
the last few years and move towards individual, personalized, expressive style.
(28:46):
And they also wrote out a long list of trends
before I share them with you. Do you have any
predictions yourselves?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Tell us.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I think we are about to move from our nineties
nostallge to why two K. I think we're about to
see like Y two K to me was like baggy pants,
you know, really metallics, loud, bright colors, tight tops, baggy pants.
(29:16):
I feel like we're starting to see a trend to
those early two thousand years. I think that's where I
think that's where everything is headed right.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Now, Okay, Danielle, I can't take the suspense what is
coming our way on the road.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
So I was like, Tim, I don't know, I don't
know about this. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'm curious to see if that, if that.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Matches up, Okay, I'm going to give it to you then.
So here's a few that stood out to me. The
first one is called good bad taste. This to me
feels like a sexy ugly man and.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
That trend rodent man.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Hear me, yeah, so hear me out kind of okay.
So this is called good bad taste.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And that's when something is so over the top that
it's actually kind of chic. It's like this unbridled expression
of personal taste. So think loud colors, eclectic, mismatched, layered,
or the controversial, you know, the Mason Margella tabby flats,
the ones with the slits between your first and second toes.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That's sort of bad taste. Just glancing at them, just
a passive plate. I feel so much discomfort.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Another one is Mermaid core Simone. This one's for you.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's all about glamour sequence.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I sail for free. I don't know. I could never
see you in any of this.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Imagine you and fishnet joggers in a one piece swimsuit war.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Body fended right now. Okay, here's how about this.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The less extreme version is a more coastal chic look
like cablenet sweaters, topsiders that I feel like.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Is more you. Now we're talking, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
The last trend to look for is childlike comfort, so
jelly sandals, ballet flats, things that remind you of your
first dance class.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Mary Jane's bag charms. I've been seeing a.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Lot of bag charms, even on like luxury designer bags.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
People are slapping on a two three dollars charm.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And those of us who have been here before know
what's going to happen to the bag charms. They're going
to be gone in about six months. Like bag charms
don't stay for long. They're here from a good time,
not a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That's a great point. Here's the thing with fashion.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I feel like the pendulum swings back and forth between
these extremes because one minute we're embracing minimalism and clean
lines and neutral palettes, and the next minute we're into
bold patterns and vibrant colors and over the top embellishments.
And I think it's this cycle that happens that's actually
it reflects, or like mirrors cultural shifts and values and
(31:50):
a lot of times economic trends which people don't realize.
So like, during periods of uncertainty, fashion usually leans towards practicality,
towards simplicity. Then in more like more prosperous times you
have experimentation and more extravagance. This idea of individualized style
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has to be an expression of something in our culture.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I'm not sure what it is yet.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm still thinking about it, but I do think it's
probably mirroring something that's going on societally.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I think that's such astute point. And I'm wondering if
some of these younger generations who spent some of their
college in lockdown during COVID are not out in the
world and having these feelings of well, I was sat
around in my sweatpants for four years. Now I'm going
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to go out and be the biggest, loudest, brightest person
I can possibly be because they have a certain amount
of freedom.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Again, that is I actually think that's a great that's
an amazing theory, Tim Professor.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I also think there is a bit of rebellion in
fashion too, where you know, younger generations see what was
being done and they just they just want to not conform.
There is just an immediate sense of rebellion. I think
we can all experience that where you can't you can't
tell me what to wear. I'm going to wear something
that's so completely opposite to make a point. So I
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do when you talk about the pendulum, I think some
of that happened just because people want to feel like
they're not feel like every generation wants to feel like
they are somehow unique or individual in their own expression,
and they just want to do the opposite of what
the generation before them did.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
To that point, Tim, you made me think about the
impact of social media, and I think Instagram and TikTok
has caused an oversaturation of trends like we all kind
of dress the same, and so I wonder if this
individualism is like a want for uniqueness or individuality, because that's.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Really interesting, and I think social media, to your point,
is also accelerating trends.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, and if we want to go really deep, if
it's not my body, my choice. Maybe it's my fashion choice,
you know, like there is a little bit of rebellion there.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I totally embrace the rebellion against dressing for the male gaze.
And I think that's just something that happens naturally as
you get older.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Like dianas you get married.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't have to I
don't have to impress anybody really. I mean, you know,
on special occasions of course that she likes. But I
think we are going to start to see more of
a rebellion in that sense, you know, women embracing more
masculine silhouettes. Men's were so huge. I have been really
inspired by Sydney Sweeney's stylist, Molly Dixon Danielle. I know
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you claim Marie Clare said minimalism is out. I don't
know if I believe that because this entire New York
press stor that she's been doing Sidney Sweeney, whatever project
she's promoting.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I'm so here for all of it. Absolutely well.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I'm as super excited as we start this year to
see all of the beautiful expressions that people are going
to bring. I think it is time to continue to
celebrate individuality. I think it's time to push boundaries. I
think it's time to be loud, and I think it's
time to have fun.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Tim.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
We know our bright Side besties love you so much,
so this has been so much fun. Thank you so
much for coming back and hanging out with us.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Tim, Thank you for hanging out with us and making
us laugh.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Y'all are the best. Thanks so much. Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Tim Pellizola is our showrunner and an Emmy winning producer.
That's it for today's show. On Monday, we're talking to
Juliana margh Lez about her storied acting career, plus.
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We'll see you Monday, y'all keep looking on the bright side.
Hey vesties, Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today on the bright side, we're popping off on the
biggest pop culture moments of the week. We're talking Oscar nominations,
the fashion trends to watch in twenty twenty five, and
move over quiet quitting? Have you heard of quiet vacationing?
Sounds better? Right, let's get into it. It's Friday, January
twenty fourth. I'm simoone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this
(00:25):
is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Danielle, Happy Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Happy Friday. What a week. I'm so excited to be
here with you and laugh.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Today we have some really fun topics we're getting into and.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It is a family affair.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Today we have everyone's favorite showrunner, including ours. It's mister
Tim Palazzolo with us again. You're supposed to do I
can't do the sound effects. That's oh sorry, you wanted
the There we go?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Does my flu induce? This is my flu airhorn.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, in case anyone forgot. He's a six time Emmy
winner and the executive producer of some huge unscripted shows
of the past decade, RuPaul's Drag Race, Ink Master, Fear Factor,
and Bar Rescue.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Tim Welcome back to the bright side.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Thank you, thank you. I also want to thank you
for that airhorn. I think in my contract moving forward,
I'm going to say anytime anyone introduces me, it needs
to be followed by a flu induced airhorn. So thank you,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So you're going to have to carry Simone around in
your pocket.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Oh my god, joined the hit from here or not?
And I want to start today's show by wishing you
a happy birthday. Simone. Your birthday is this week. Oh
my gosh, the airhorn for you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much. We also need
to wish Danielle happy birthday. She's also a January girly too.
I'm just happy did though, don't deflect. We want to
know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Are you having a prea Parker Stamp celebration? What's going on?
I had a mini pre Parker Stamp celebration, you guys know.
I always like to launch into the new year with joy.
I like to have like a joy filled January, And
to be honest, life started lifing this year and January
has looked a lot different for a lot of us
in California than we ever expected. But so I was
(02:12):
kind of on the fence, like do I get some
friends together?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Do I not? But eventually my friends were like, we
still need to celebrate, we still need reasons to celebrate,
and we still need joy. So we just had like
a little intimate dinner party and got to catch up
with everyone here, everyone's rose and Thorn and it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Was just amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Oh that sounds so lovely.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's my sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I love a six person dinner party, like, that's perfect.
Totally okay. As always, we have had a really killer
week of shows, Tim, what stands out when you think
of this week's Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Oh my god, what an incredible week of shows. You know,
I I was so moved by your conversation with Rita
Amoka on Martin Luther King Junior Day. She shared these
amazing stories of some of the lesser known black activists
who they've really ignited some of the civil rights movements
that have been at the heart of change in this country.
(03:07):
And you know, on Martin Luther King Junior Day and
on other holidays like the fourth of July, Labor Day
and Memorial Day, we've had the opportunity to share some
of these stories of these trailblazing women that haven't always
been celebrated by the history books. And what sticks with
me through all of these stories is that, you know,
we can all face darkness and we can all lose
(03:29):
a sense of hope. Rita and the women that she
celebrates really serve as a reminder that when you stand
up for what you believe in, change is possible. And
her spirit is infectious.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
She made me even more passionate about this aspect of history.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And I love that you said darkness because that's sort
of a callback to one of mlk's famous quotes, which
is darkness cannot drive out darkness.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Only light can do that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I love that.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Another person that graced our podcast this week was Lashawna Lynch.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Guys, how much do we love Lashana Lynch?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You guys, I'm obsessed with Lynch.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
She's a right side betstie if we've ever had one.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I'm kind of sad she's not on social media because
I can't keep in touch with her. But Lashawna girl,
if you're listening, just know that we'd love you.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You're a star.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
After that interview, I immediately went and started watching A
Day of the Jackal. Yeah, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh my god, we know her.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
We just talk to her.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, my parents started watching the show because of the interview.
I mean, in case you haven't listened to it yet.
Shawna made history as the first black female agent in
the James Bond franchise, and when she was with us,
she dropped the spy tip that Simone and Tim and
I cannot stop talking about. She said, trained spies don't
stress about asking the right questions. Instead, they have these
(04:56):
really natural, organic conversations and if you keep them talking
long enough, they know the other person is going to
divulge all the things that you need.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So genius.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
But I actually think that questions are still the key
to getting people to divulge it, and you can mask
it in like a natural, organic way. I sound like
a sociopath now that I'm expressing this to you guys,
but I think you if you ask the right questions
and at leads people to the Larry place, I think
maybe it's maybe the correct spy advice is somewhere in
the middle. Okay, switching gears here though, y'all. Danielle, your
(05:27):
conversation with doctor Kathleen Smith, I mean, eye opening. It
was all about people pleasing. I learned so much listening
back to this conversation. I mean, she really reminded us
that people are still animals at our core, and we
actually have a lot that we can learn from other
animals about people pleasing, which I never thought about.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it's such a reminder that people pleasing is so human,
all social creatures do it. It kind of took all
the pressure off, like, Okay, we people please sometimes.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I'm thinking back on what else we did. Oh, we
had an amazing interview with Maureen Goo. She wrote Throwback,
which is the Reese's book club winter Yapick. It's a
book inspired by Back to the Future, and I loved
hearing her talk about nostalgia and how it really helped
her bring this story to life. But listen up, y'all.
Our week of great shows isn't over yet. Before we
(06:15):
pop off, though, it's time for this week's spotlight. Today
we're honoring women's rights activist and the longtime leader of
planned parenthood, Cecile Richards. She passed away on Monday at
age sixty seven following a battle with brain cancer.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Cecile Richards was one of the most well known defenders
of abortion rights and the former president of Planned Parenthood,
which is the country's largest provider of reproductive health care
and sex education. And she was born into activism. Her
mom was a Democratic governor of Texas and her dad
was a civil rights lawyer.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And even before she started her.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Tenure at Planned Parenthood, she worked as a labor organizer
and founder of a get out the vote organization. So
under her leadership, Planned Parenthood became a political powerhouse. It
expanded its support and volunteer base from two and a
half million to an astonishing eleven million people, and today
it remains the nation's largest provider of reproductive health care,
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which is such a testament to her unwavering dedication. And
I think the real marker of Cecil's character was her
absolute relentlessness even in the face of attacks. Like during
her tenure, state legislators across the country continually sought to
defund clinics and chip away at abortion access, and yet
she never wavered in her advocacy for comprehensive reproductive care,
(07:33):
which included breast and cervical cancer screenings, HIV prevention, abortion
access so much more.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Cecil was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by former
President Biden late last year, and during the ceremony, President
Biden called her a leader of the utmost character, saying, quote,
She's led some of our nation's most important civil rights
causes to lift up the dignity of workers, defend and
advance women's reproductive rights in a quality, and mobilize Americans
(08:01):
to exercise their power to vote.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know, she was absolutely relentless until the end. Even
after her diagnosis in twenty twenty three, she was working
and advocating and pushing people to get out and vote.
And she wore this bracelet that said keep going. So
in her honor, I think that's what we all have
to do. We have to just keep going. Okay, Tim Simone,
(08:27):
are we ready to pop off?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Let's do it, LFG.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Okay, y'all, we got to start with one of the
biggest stories of the week, without question, that is the
Oscar nominations. They were announced early yesterday morning by Bowen
Yang and comedian Rachel Sennett. And here are the biggest takeaways. Okay, So,
Emilia Perez is continuing its winning street, crushing it with
thirteen Oscar nominations, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress,
(08:54):
and Best Supporting Actress for Carlo Sofia Gascon and Zoe Saldana.
Important to note Carlos off Via Gascon is making history
here as the first openly transactor to receive an Oscar nomination. Okay,
then we have Wicked and The Brutalist coming in second
place with ten nominations each, A complete unknown Timothy Shallames,
(09:14):
Bob Dylan, Biopic and Conclave each got eight nominations and
Noora received six. Also, our girls Cynthia Rivo Ariana Grande
both nominated for Wicked. I feel like that's a lot
of words for me for right now. I'm going to
give the floor to everyone else. Do we feel like
do we feel like justice was served in the Oscar
nominations this year?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think it is quite a diverse and dynamic group
of actors, actresses and movies. And what I really love
about these award shows, the Oscars in particular some of
the Golden Globes, is that it really gives audiences an
opportunity to take note of films that they may not
already have on their radars, some of the movies that
(09:57):
don't have the big marketing budgets. I mean, we saw Wicked,
for six months, so everyone knew Wicked was coming out,
and some of these other films didn't have that same
marketing budget. I know, personally, when I see these types
of nominations come out, it makes me want to go
see all of those films. But I am curious because
Emilia Perez did amazing. I think that this is a
(10:18):
really polarizing film because I know people that hated it
got like ten minutes in. I can see the two
of you are nodding along. I personally loved it, but
I feel like y'all did not.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I tried. I've tried watching it a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I'm not sure that it's for me, but that being said,
I really do want to like it, and I feel
like I feel like this is in my This is
in my Venn diagram because I love musicals and I
love musical movies. So maybe I just wasn't in the
right headspace. You know how sometimes you start a movie
and you're like, I'm not even in the right zone
here for this.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That might be what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I couldn't follow along, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I really hesitate to critique art because making art is
so difficult and consuming. It is so easy, Like, we
have absolutely no idea what it takes to create a
film like Amelia Perez, and I'm all here for the
history making.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I love me some Zoe Saldana.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
She's just fantastic in this film.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
She's so talented. So this is not a critique of
any of the people in it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I do not like the film. I could not follow it.
It's so not in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I wish, in the spirit of twenty twenty five, when
transparency is everywhere, that we could have a better understanding
from the Academy of how they make these decisions. I
want to understand their criteria because how I'm judging a
film is clearly not the same as how they're judging it,
and I just I need to know their criteria.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
That's really that's really interesting, Yeah, because you you definitely
see a common nation of films that were huge blockbuster
types films. You know, Wicked Dune Part two were huge
at the box office, but you know, and Amelia Perez
did amazing on Netflix, but some of these other movies
didn't have the same type of reach.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean, the substance like that movie is boundary breaking.
It's saying something like I'm really, I was moved, I
was thinking about it, I was having conversations after it.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
H That movie has stuck with me so much. Also,
Anora was so fantastic, Tod, either of you see Anura.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm obsessed with the Noura. It might be like my
number one film of the year.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So good and honestly, I mean, Wicked, what a film.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
What a film. I'm curious if Wicked is going to
dominate at the Oscars. It didn't dominate at the Golden
Globes the way that I think a lot of people
were predicting, and it is a really outstanding movie. And
I do think that there are times where we think
about the Oscars. You know, do we do we celebrate
movies that do well for you know, at the box office?
(13:05):
Are we celebrating some of these smaller independent films. I
feel like we haven't seen a film dominate both at
the box office and with OSCAR nominations or wins since
like Titanic. Yeah, so I'll be really interested to see
what happens. But what I love about this in particular
is even what we're doing, it's sparking conversation because art
(13:26):
and films are always going to be subjective, and it's
always going to be how we feel about things and
how we resonate with them. All right, Oscar's party at
my house.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yes, I'm down.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
All right, We've.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Got to take a quick break from popping off, but
we'll be right back and we're back to popping off
with Tim Palazola.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, guys, have you have you heard of this thing
called quiet vacationing. No, you've heard of quiet quitting, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard of quiet quitting. Yeah. That's
just basically doing the bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
For your job, right yeah, Like you're quietly quitting while
you're still at work, basically until you actually quit. So
there's this new trend called quiet vacationing, and it's when
remote workers travel to other states, even other countries without
telling their bosses they're essentially on vacation, but maintaining the
illusion that they're working, like they're logging into their computers
(14:28):
when they need.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So like bit yes, but like picture one of us
on a beach, drink in hand, but making sure to
hop on the microphone just enough to look active online
and type some notes into our production scripts. But I
(14:50):
mean this trend has gained serious traction as remote work
has become more and more common. What are your immediate
reactions to this? Because I have to say, I don't
hate it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I don't hate it. I've done it right, I've done it.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You can work from anywhere.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
If you're remote, you can work from anywhere. And because
the way technology has made things so much more accessible,
I think it's I think we've learned that you don't
have to be physically in an office to be able
to get your work done. I did this a couple
of years ago, and I was in I actually went
to Costa Rica, and you know, the people that needed
(15:24):
to know new but the people that didn't need to
know didn't know. So I was able to still participate
in things when I needed to. But I still felt
like I couldn't relax and enjoy my vacation because I
felt like I would have to be on or I'd
have to be present, or I'd have to be checking
my emails, or I had to be in some way
(15:47):
participating in what was going on. I couldn't fully disconnect
from what was going on. So I while I appreciate
what technology is allowed us to do, I still think
people need to be able to completely disconnect for a minute.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I definitely have done this, but I tell you, guys,
when I'm going on vacation and still podcasting.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
But that's like in the way that when you were
in office, you're like, I'm working from home. That's the
equivalent to me, I say, ye, do it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, this is the thing about jobs. Here's the thing
about jobs.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Okay, You've got to get everything that you can possibly
get out of that job while you're there. Because what
I've realized over the course of my career is the
company does not care about you. So you have to
care about yourself. So if that means if that means.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I make someone because I fall in love with people
at the company, and then I'm like, oh no, they
care I care about them, they care about me.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Ah, you can care about the people, but the company, right,
even the people. You will be shocked. People will move
on so quick, like that's the thing. You are replaceable,
you know. But Okay, the reason why I brought this
up is like, just take advantage of remote work if
your job allows you to do that, you know, take
advantage of the relationships that you can build at that job.
(17:07):
Take advantage of the opportunities to upskill while you're at
that job.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Can you take a course?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Will they cover some sort of continuing education for you
get the most that you can get out of your job.
Because it will never no one will ever like hand
that to you. You've got to take it yourself. What
are your thoughts on this quiet vacationing, Danielle, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So here for it. I feel like I agree with Simone.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You have to take advantage of the opportunity you're given.
You're not always able to be remote, So if you
can be and you're still doing your best work, then
I think and sometimes when you're like happier and joyful,
you are doing even better work. Quiet quitting, on the
other hand, I despise.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I'm not I think, oh right either.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, that seems so awful.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And you know, we sort of like Pooh pooh, we
turn our nose down at large corporations in our country,
and for some good reasons, you know, sometimes they take
advantage of the environment, et cetera. And some large corporations
do so much good for our country and employ so
(18:14):
many people. And so whether you're working for a small
corporation or a large corporation, to take advantage of that
and to like just be phoning it in. I think,
is you're laughing at me, Tim, But I just think
it's Somethingielle defending corporate America.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I know, I really am.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I believe in like doing your best. I know, is
that corny, you guys?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I used to quiet quit when I was in my twenties,
and I was just like, so, I was so selfish
and so singularly focused on like whatever the next job was,
because I had a lot of survival jobs that I
didn't want to be in, but it was always a
stepping stone for the next one. And I totally quiet quit,
And thankfully I had people who like were mature enough
to pull me aside and be like, hey, this is
(18:59):
not a good look. You need to like, even if
you're disinterested in a job, like you still need to
give your all until you're gone.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah. People remember your work ethic, people remember who you are.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, and sometimes those things come back around.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah. I would much rather quiet vacation than quiet quit
for you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I'd rather vacation than quit period.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
So are we taping the bright side from the Bahamas?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think the whole point of this was that we
have to go to home.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
We have to take a vacation. Okay, os, there's party
of my house and then we'll go to the Bahamas
in the summer.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Keeping things moving here, y'all. I want to ask you
about Chloe Kardashian. She's out with a brand new podcast.
It's called Chloe in Wonderland and it premiered this week.
And in one of the episodes, she was talking to
Jay Shetty. You guys know who Jayshetty is, right, He's
kind of like that personal development self help guru that's
always everywhere. So they were talking about all things love
(19:55):
and she told him that she's actually not ashamed of
her romantic past, which if you've been keeping up with
the Kardashians for as long as we have, twenty years, yeah, yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We've been keeping up with them.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
At least I've been keeping up with them for longer,
like for more than half my life.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
There are kids that don't know a world without the Kardashians.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's wild, it's wild. But anyways, if you've been keeping
up with the Kardashians over the years, you know that
her romantic past has been a sore spot. There was
her ex husband Lamar Odom, who struggled pretty publicly with
addiction issues, and then Tristan Thompson, who was repeatedly caught
cheating on her with other women, including when Chloe was
(20:38):
pregnant with their first child. I'm sorry, that's unforgivable, but
Chloe says even despite all of that, she's been able
to find gratitude for those experiences. She says, quote, I
also think it's one of my superpowers that I went
through those things and I still have such a softness
for love and life. Chloe Kardashian really has a point here, Guys.
(21:00):
This is a really mature This is an evolved take
on our romantic paths.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I do agree. I mean, I also sort of think
that it is human nature to take what you what
has been thrown at you in life and try to
make lemonade out of lemons, and it's it's a great
skill that humans have.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So did she sort of do that? I think?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So did she need to necessarily go through all that?
I don't know, you know, I mean I had a
therapist one time. I've talked about this on the show.
I had one really brutal breakup with a guy that
was just not a good person ultimately, and my therapist look.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Sorry to interrupt, but did you know he was a
bad person when you were in it?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
No, there were like little signs. But when you're with somebody,
what I think happens is they like love bomb you
in the beginning, so they're like amazing and perfect fall
in love with them, and then slowly this stuff seeps through,
but you're already in love, so you kind of make
excuses in your mind. It's this like slow burn. And
(22:10):
then he sort of did a one to eighty when
we broke up and I saw his true colors. But she,
my therapist, looked at me one day and said, you know,
you could have gone your whole life without ever meeting
someone like this, And I'll never forget that, because I
was like, oh wow, I actually didn't need all of
this trauma, even though I can say now that it's
(22:33):
made me more empathetic. I think I'm a better interviewer
because I understand pain differently, Like it did add all
of these things to my life.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Ultimately, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Know if I needed that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Maybe I could have found.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It way totally. Yeah, What I think is powerful about
this statement is that she's really acknowledging that she's not
going to let anyone else dim her light.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I think we can all go through experiences, and we
have at the end of the day, we have a
choice whether we let those things define us or we
get to define ourselves. You know, the worst dating experience
I ever had, I was dating someone who at the
end of it, I found out that he was using
his dying parents as a way to manipulate and cheat
(23:21):
on me. I knew when we got together that his
mom was really sick and his dad was really sick,
and we and it was it was just really magical
in the beginning, and we would make plans and at
the last minu he would say, oh my god, my
dad pulled his catheter out. I need to go to
the er to visit him. Or we would have a
plan to go away for the weekend, and the night
before he would say, oh my god, my mom is
(23:43):
really sick. I need to go spend the weekend with her.
And it wasn't until like right after we broke up,
I found out that he had been seeing someone else
throughout the course of it, and I was so incredibly correct. Yes,
and I just replay some of it. I would have
behaved the same way, you know. I he would be like,
(24:04):
my mom is in the er and I was making
care packages or you know, I was doing a lot.
You know, at no moment where was I going to say, no,
we have to go see Bridesmaids. We have tickets. Your
mom is fine, you know. Yeah. But I think about
some of that, and I my heart hardened a little
bit after that because I just couldn't believe that someone
(24:25):
could do that to another person.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But such, I would just want to touch on what
you just said, because your heart hardening is such a
beautiful way of saying what it is. I sometimes missed
the person I was before that piece of me.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Was taken or that was like there was almost.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
An innocence to love and relationships.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
At the same time, you guys, If those people didn't
take that spark or that innocence from you, someone else
or something else would have.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah. But I do wonder had I not gone through that,
if the relationship I have now would be different because
I immediately set some boundaries early on that allowed me
to preserve who I was as an individual that I
wasn't compromising myself at all along the way. So did
(25:22):
I need to go through that, like your therapist said,
probably not, But you know, I think we are all
the sum of all of our experiences. And there was
there was a somalier that I talked to a while
ago who said something that I thought was really magical
about life. And she was talking specifically about wine, and
(25:45):
she said that the grapes and the vines that have
some of the harder time thriving make the more complex
and dynamic and beautiful wines versus the ones that you
know have it so easy with all the right conditions
and all the right temperature. Some of sometimes those grapes
(26:05):
are just sort of relatively boring. So I always think
of that and knowledge anyway think about life.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I agree, Yeah, I wouldn't go back, And even though
I miss her sometimes, I wouldn't go back and ask
for that girl.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm proud of who she became. Do you feel that way?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I definitely feel that way. And I think I'm probably
also solely responsible for Adele having over two billion streams
because I listened to that album twenty one on repeat
over and over.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Such a cliche.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I love that crying in the car, crying in the show.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Oh, totally, totally taking walks on the beach, lamenting. So
I know you got married early, but did you have
any horrible dating experiences?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Oh gosh, I do I do?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
To be honest, like I was pretty avoidant, Like I
didn't get into a lot of long term relationships with people.
And I think that's I think that's just like a
holdover of like coping mechanisms that I developed in childhood.
And what I was thinking about as you were talking, Tim,
is that it seems like the entire challenge of life
(27:17):
is can you hold space for your past experiences and
compartmentalize it so that you don't bring it into this relationship?
And maybe compartmentalizes isn't even a fair term, because you
have to deal with it and you have to heal it.
But that seems like the challenge both in romantic relationships
and in parenting too.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Oh interesting, sure, yeah, really great point to me.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The most powerful thing that Chloe said is that she
believes that she still has this superpower to still believe
in love and to still move through the world with
an open heart. And I think that that is a
really underdiscussed element of like of life and being able
(28:01):
to bounce back from heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's such a beautiful message.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, it's time for another short break, but we'll be
right back with Tim Palasola. And we're back with Tim Palasola.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, you too.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Marie Claire is out with their predictions for the biggest
fashion trends of twenty twenty five. I want to take
a little walk down the runway with you. I want
to see what you think about these predictions. Okay, So overall,
they predict that we're going to continue to see a
move away from the minimalism that's been so popular over
the last few years and move towards individual, personalized, expressive style.
(28:46):
And they also wrote out a long list of trends
before I share them with you. Do you have any
predictions yourselves?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Tell us.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I think we are about to move from our nineties
nostallge to why two K. I think we're about to
see like Y two K to me was like baggy pants,
you know, really metallics, loud, bright colors, tight tops, baggy pants.
(29:16):
I feel like we're starting to see a trend to
those early two thousand years. I think that's where I
think that's where everything is headed right.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Now, Okay, Danielle, I can't take the suspense what is
coming our way on the road.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
So I was like, Tim, I don't know, I don't
know about this. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'm curious to see if that, if that.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Matches up, Okay, I'm going to give it to you then.
So here's a few that stood out to me. The
first one is called good bad taste. This to me
feels like a sexy ugly man and.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
That trend rodent man.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Hear me, yeah, so hear me out kind of okay.
So this is called good bad taste.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And that's when something is so over the top that
it's actually kind of chic. It's like this unbridled expression
of personal taste. So think loud colors, eclectic, mismatched, layered,
or the controversial, you know, the Mason Margella tabby flats,
the ones with the slits between your first and second toes.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That's sort of bad taste. Just glancing at them, just
a passive plate. I feel so much discomfort.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Another one is Mermaid core Simone. This one's for you.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's all about glamour sequence.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I sail for free. I don't know. I could never
see you in any of this.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Imagine you and fishnet joggers in a one piece swimsuit war.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Body fended right now. Okay, here's how about this.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The less extreme version is a more coastal chic look
like cablenet sweaters, topsiders that I feel like.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Is more you. Now we're talking, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
The last trend to look for is childlike comfort, so
jelly sandals, ballet flats, things that remind you of your
first dance class.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Mary Jane's bag charms. I've been seeing a.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Lot of bag charms, even on like luxury designer bags.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
People are slapping on a two three dollars charm.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And those of us who have been here before know
what's going to happen to the bag charms. They're going
to be gone in about six months. Like bag charms
don't stay for long. They're here from a good time,
not a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That's a great point. Here's the thing with fashion.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I feel like the pendulum swings back and forth between
these extremes because one minute we're embracing minimalism and clean
lines and neutral palettes, and the next minute we're into
bold patterns and vibrant colors and over the top embellishments.
And I think it's this cycle that happens that's actually
it reflects, or like mirrors cultural shifts and values and
(31:50):
a lot of times economic trends which people don't realize.
So like, during periods of uncertainty, fashion usually leans towards practicality,
towards simplicity. Then in more like more prosperous times you
have experimentation and more extravagance. This idea of individualized style
(32:11):
has to be an expression of something in our culture.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I'm not sure what it is yet.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm still thinking about it, but I do think it's
probably mirroring something that's going on societally.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I think that's such astute point. And I'm wondering if
some of these younger generations who spent some of their
college in lockdown during COVID are not out in the
world and having these feelings of well, I was sat
around in my sweatpants for four years. Now I'm going
(32:42):
to go out and be the biggest, loudest, brightest person
I can possibly be because they have a certain amount
of freedom.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Again, that is I actually think that's a great that's
an amazing theory, Tim Professor.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I also think there is a bit of rebellion in
fashion too, where you know, younger generations see what was
being done and they just they just want to not conform.
There is just an immediate sense of rebellion. I think
we can all experience that where you can't you can't
tell me what to wear. I'm going to wear something
that's so completely opposite to make a point. So I
(33:21):
do when you talk about the pendulum, I think some
of that happened just because people want to feel like
they're not feel like every generation wants to feel like
they are somehow unique or individual in their own expression,
and they just want to do the opposite of what
the generation before them did.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
To that point, Tim, you made me think about the
impact of social media, and I think Instagram and TikTok
has caused an oversaturation of trends like we all kind
of dress the same, and so I wonder if this
individualism is like a want for uniqueness or individuality, because that's.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Really interesting, and I think social media, to your point,
is also accelerating trends.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, and if we want to go really deep, if
it's not my body, my choice. Maybe it's my fashion choice,
you know, like there is a little bit of rebellion there.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I totally embrace the rebellion against dressing for the male gaze.
And I think that's just something that happens naturally as
you get older.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Like dianas you get married.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't have to I
don't have to impress anybody really. I mean, you know,
on special occasions of course that she likes. But I
think we are going to start to see more of
a rebellion in that sense, you know, women embracing more
masculine silhouettes. Men's were so huge. I have been really
inspired by Sydney Sweeney's stylist, Molly Dixon Danielle. I know
(34:51):
you claim Marie Clare said minimalism is out. I don't
know if I believe that because this entire New York
press stor that she's been doing Sidney Sweeney, whatever project
she's promoting.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I'm so here for all of it. Absolutely well.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I'm as super excited as we start this year to
see all of the beautiful expressions that people are going
to bring. I think it is time to continue to
celebrate individuality. I think it's time to push boundaries. I
think it's time to be loud, and I think it's
time to have fun.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Tim.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
We know our bright Side besties love you so much,
so this has been so much fun. Thank you so
much for coming back and hanging out with us.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Tim, Thank you for hanging out with us and making
us laugh.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Y'all are the best. Thanks so much. Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Tim Pellizola is our showrunner and an Emmy winning producer.
That's it for today's show. On Monday, we're talking to
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