June 6, 2024 • 27 mins
In 2008, Queen Harrison Claye became the youngest member of the US Track and Field Team to compete at the Olympic Games in Beijing. Later this month she’s participating in the Olympic trials in Eugene, Oregon to qualify for Paris 2024. Queen joined us on the show to talk about empowering female athletes, the mental prep that goes into training, and becoming the co-founder of The Athletic Girls Club, which launches this month. She is also a host on AirBnb. This episode was made in partnership with Airbnb.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, fam, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, Olympic
hurdler and sprinter Queen Harrison Clay. She's here to talk
about this summer's Paris Olympics, her dedication to empowering female athletes,
and how hosting on Airbnb enables her to do it all.
It's Thursday, June sixth I'm Danielle Robe.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And I'm Simone Boyce, and this is the bright Side
from Hello Sunshine, Simone.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We both want to be athletes. I know we're going
to be following the Olympics. They're only one month away,
and there's been so much anticipation and so many high
profile returns like Simone Biles. There's also been some devastating
losses like Gabby Douglass having to pull out due to
an ankle injury. I feel like I need a countdown
on my whiteboard in my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Road to the Olympics. I can already hear the theme
song in my head. I'm so ready for it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Give it to me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
As we get closer to the kickoff in Paris, Danielle,
we are going to talk a lot about the roads
of the Olympics right here on the bright Side, and
I'm really excited because we're going to be bringing the
best and the brightest voices on to tell us who
we should be paying attention to, what goes into being
an Olympian, and also the feeling of what it's like
to be in the stands. I have never actually attended
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an Olympics. It has eluded me, and I've got to
do it one day.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's such a bucket list moment. Also, I feel like
you and I we've talked about being patriotic. It feels
like such an ultimate American moment to go be at
the Olympics. It's super exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I would for sure wear a cape of some sort
if I went like it would be a flag, probably
either the American flag or the Rings flag, but there
would be a cape involved for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, we are joined by someone who's actually in the
mists of training for the Olympic trials. Queen Harrison Clay
made history in two thousand and eight when she became
the youngest member of the US track and field team
to compete in the Summer Olympics in Beijing. And beyond
the track, Queen is also just so fly like. She
has amazing style, wears cool lipstick, cool clothes, and she's
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also really passionate about empowering female athletes and helping them
succeed on and off the field. She's actually doing something
about it too, through a social organization that she co
founded called the Athletic Girls Club for girls age thirteen
to seventeen and eighteen to twenty three. She's just empowering
female athletes across the board.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, we know sports are integral and shaping our
future leaders. We've talked a lot on the bright side
about that pipeline from the field to the c suite,
But there's new research out that underscores the positive impact
on mental health. So it turns out that girls who
participate in sports can have lower rates of depression and anxiety.
And this is so interesting, Danielle. Girls who play sports
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report one point five times higher levels of meaning and
purpose compared to those who never played.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I feel that in my own life playing I don't
know if I necessarily play sports, but I work out
and having a strong body gives me a strong mind,
and vice versa, like one feeds the other. So every
time we have an athlete on our show, she affirms
what you and I both know to be true. One
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After the Break, the Fast and the fabulous Queen Harrison
Clay is here and we're talking about her Olympic journey,
the moment that almost kept her from making the Olympics
last time, and the power of her community. We'll be
right back. This segment is in partnership with Airbnb. We're
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back with Olympic hurdler, sprinter, entrepreneur and mom, Queen Harrison Clay.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And that's not all. She's also in the Airbnb host
club too. Queen, Welcome to the bright Side.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to hopefully become
a bright Side bestie.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh my god, you're ready, one girl, girl, you ain't
got to do that thing. You're already there.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Okay, Okay, what's up. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Your name is Queen, You're in. We're good, And I'm
excited because Simone is hosting for Airbnb. You're hosting for
Airbnb one day. I aspire to be a host. But
I'm fascinated by your origin story. I read that you
first started running track as a way to make friends.
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At what point did it become a parent that you
could really do this at an elite level.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, I definitely started with making friends. I mean, I
come from a huge family. I'm one of twenty three
children that my dad has. Fun fact, so my friends
were always just my family. That's what my parents told me, like,
your your family is your friends. And then we moved
from upstate New York down to Richmond, Virginia, and I
didn't know anyone. I was going to middle school and
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everyone was kind of clicked up from elementary school or
in local neighborhoods. And I was like, well, what's the
biggest team or organization that I could jump on? And
I saw the track team and it was co ed,
you know, so that was actually added on this because well,
so you know, me young pre teen girl joined the
track team and I kind of just took to it immediately.
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I had a running past in the past, but to
be in an organized sport that was my first time.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I just had a friend tell me that I should
join a run club to meet men. So now you
have confirmed her suspicions. I'm going to do it. But
we've talked a lot about how opportunities for female athletes
have changed drastically in recent years, and you were training
and discovering the sport in the early two thousands. What
kind of road map existed for you at that time.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Oh my, it's so different, different terrain. I mean, there
still are uphill battles. But when I started, it was
very much your track athlete. There was no distinction between
male or female. And I think there were good parts
about that because people were kind of treated equally on
in the sport at that time. But then it also
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didn't take into account the nuances that come along as
being a female athlete, as being a woman, a young woman,
and how our body develops differently, so that one size
all approach that we kind of got boxed into when
I was younger. It's good to see it now, to
see female athletes and women in general just shining as women,
not just as an athlete, like honing in on what
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makes us different and celebrating that. It's dope to see.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
In twenty twenty four, Queen, you qualified for the Beijing
Olympics in two thousand and eight when you were just
a sophomore at Virginia Tech. As someone who failed at
literally every sport, I don't know what that feels like.
So I'm hoping to live vicariously through you through this question.
What do you remember about getting that call or getting
that news.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, So when we'd qualify for the Olympic Games, there's
like a host and a series of event. So I
was in my collegiate season. We had the NCAA National Championships.
I'll never forget this. My coach put me in an
event I usually didn't do, which was the four x
one relay.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I'm on third leg, I'm running for my team, and
I ended up pulling.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
My quad muscle, which is like detrimental to sprinting because
it's huge muscle that you need.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So I didn't get to finish that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
National championships and Olympic trials were about two and a
half three weeks away, so any thought I had of
making the team kind of started to diminish because I
hurt myself and Team USA is a very competitive team
to make. But thankfully I had a great team around
me that rallied. We did so much physical therapy and
treatment and all that type of stuff, and even just
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mentally training to say, look, if you can be well
enough and healthy enough to step out on the line,
the sky is the limit. And I literally ran on faith,
like I look back at that race, and I think
about it. I was out in laying eight, which is
like not a you know, like not the best.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Lane to be in.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I was the last person qualified into the final Olympic trials.
Even on the last straightaway a girl fell over the
hurdle rolled.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Into my lane.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I had to jump over her, and somehow I still
was able to get second place and make the Olympic
team as this nineteen year old. And so I think
that was a testament if I didn't know before then
that I belong here. I have the mental fortitude and
the physical attributes to be an Olympian integrate. That solidified it.
I still get chills thinking about it and looking at
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that race.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We often hear about athletes having this really intense mind
body connection, and an athlete like Simone Biles has talked
about how you know, before certain events she had either
a good gut feeling or a bad gut feeling about
what was about to happen. So that day, when you
were qualifying for the Olympics, what was your mental state?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like what I do remember was like the freedom. There
was something about getting injured two weeks prior, nobody looking
at me to make the team. There wasn't that added
pressure from the public. I was a long shot by
their eyes. So I think being able to just go
in there authentically, like run my best race without those
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additional pressures, my mind was free because whatever the outcome was,
I was proud. Yeah, and I was even prouder to
make the team, obviously, but I was just proud to
have withstood all the things that happened that season to
still stand on that line and represent myself, my family,
and my university.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That it was a freedom that allowed me to make
that team.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Queen, you mentioned mental fortitude, and you know, I've read
a few books about sports psychology because I think so
much of it is applicable to our daily lives. One
of my favorites is How Champions Think by doctor Bob Rotella,
and in sports he talks about this moment of psyching
yourself up. But it doesn't just happen right before the race.
It happens in the weeks leading up to the race.
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And now you're leading up to the Olympic qualifiers for
the Paris Games. How are you psyching yourself up and
preparing for that make or break race?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, I think everyone's adopted it now when they're like
the lulu is the Salulu I swear like athletes. We've
been doing that for ages where it doesn't matter like
how you're seated going into a race, and that means
you could be coming in as the twelfth fastest or
the second fastest. When you come to that field of
play or that line in your mind, you've told yourself
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you're better than everyone else in that race because the
race is against you versu yourself. And so as I
get ready for the Olympic Trials, get ready for the
Paris Games, every day is about chipping off at being
better than I was yesterday, a week before, even an
hour before. And I think once you with age, with maturity,
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comes that self confidence that if I can beat myself yesterday,
why can't I beat anyone else in the world. And
that can go into so many different industries, not just
an athlete.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So how do you find that self confidence on days
when you're not feeling confident or when you need to
push through those near misses as an athlete.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Looking for like outside motivation, especially now I'm a mother,
you know, going into motherhood, she just turned to this
may but now there's like this additional external factor that
motivates me to shine my brightest as the brightest star
that I can be. It used to be me, It
used to be the accolades, and those things are still important,
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but now family, especially this young girl, impressionable who I
want to be her greatest version of herself. I would
be remiss not to be my best version. So when
it's hard and it's hot, or you know, I have
a ding here and bang the knee here, I just
can regroup and think not just for myself, but for
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little Queen Cary, that's my baby.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'm so glad you brought her up because I want
to know what training looks like for the Paris Olympic Games.
Now that you're a mom, it's got to be different.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Very different in great ways and in really challenging ways.
I would say maybe within the past two months it
just felt very all consuming. It was like never an
off switch because when I go into training and I'm
at the track, I'm fully focused on that. And in
the past, when I leave the track, I would be
able to decompress fully.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I can put my feet up on the.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Couch, getting the ice back whatever, and focus totally on me,
but now it switches from track queen to mommy queen,
in which case it leaves less space for me to
just have that same type of recovery.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But I've gotten the gist of it.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
It just kind of has taken some time to learn
how to be selfish and not think of it as
a bad way. I mean, I would have never gotten
to the place that I am if I wasn't selfish
throughout my career and my life, because I have to
be for these hundreds of a second that I'm trying
to get to win or to go to the Olympic
Games and get a gold medal. So doing that when
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your mother seems kind of taboo because they say no,
selfish is bad, selfless good. But you have to have
that balance, and I've learned it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So I love that you just said I am selfish
because we are taught as women to be selfless. You
said it, What does being selfish look like like? Give
me specifics if you can.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, it's about prioritizing my time and my recovery. It
goes without saying that your baby or your child is
always going to be at the forefront of your mind.
But initially it would be I'd get done with training
and I'm like rushing home, like, no, there's no stops.
I mean, I'm like, the only place you need to
go is a grocery store or something for her. And
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now it's like, Okay, do I need to go get
in the cold tub? Do I need to go to
the chiropractor? These are things I need to do for
my body to perform at its best, and so I've
taken that time even if it's like, oh, you want
to go get your hair done, which is something I
used to love to do, because just as much as
Fast as part of my brand, so is fabulous. So
I'm like that brings me joy, and it makes training
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better and it makes my life better. And so tapping
back into those things that bring me joy makes training
that much that much better.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I am. I love that you said fast and fabulous
because one of my favorite athletes growing up was flow Jo,
and I feel like she made fast and fabulous possible.
So I love that you're carrying the torch. But you
have a new title that you're adding to your resume.
You're the co founder of Athletic Girls Club, which is
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a new membership based social organization dedicated to empowering female athletes.
Why is this club so needed?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
My's beyond needed.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I think it literally just about what I wish I
had when I was younger, you know, like you mentioned
flow Jo, I remember seeing playbacks and replays of her
and how she came to the line. It felt like
her authentic self. And so with Athletic Girls Club, I'm here,
I'm a living testament to bringing your authentic self to
the line.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And I know the root of that is.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
The confidence and the self awareness that I got through sport.
So that's our common thread of all the girls in
the Athletic Girls Club. We are all connected through our
love of sport because we're active or we're active female athletes.
But we know only less than one percent goes on
to be a professional athlete.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
So it's like, how do they pivot?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
How do we provide resources and a network that if
they want to host their own podcast, we have a
network within the Athletic Girls Club that they can tap
into and do an internship.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's really that just.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Paying it forward that I've done at a unofficial capacity
most of my career to now make it a thriving
membership club that I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm excited for you as you create the version of
community that you want to see in the world. You
talked about how isolating it can be as an elite athlete,
and this word community, it feels like it gets thrown
around a lot these days, and sometimes it feels really hollow,
and I don't know that it carries a lot of meaning.
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So I'm curious what does community mean to you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
As definitely thrown around a lot. I think community to
me is more. It's not just the word or us
grouping together physically. It's about we have this common thread
and I want you to be the best version of yourself.
You want me to be the best version of myself.
So how do we pool our resources, our mind, our
strengths so that everybody in our community can be the
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best version of ourselves. I mean, a rising tide lifts
all ships, and so what we hope and look for
Athletic Girls Club and this network that create to do
is to rise all of our girls. I mean these
are girls that are thirteen to seventeen and then eighteen
to twenty four. You know, this is a really distinct
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group of young girls and women that we know if
polished correctly and given the space and the freedom to
express themselves in whatever way that looks. They're going to
be the change makers of the world, and we just
want to be a small part of helping them get there.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
How has your community shown up for you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean now, they help me with babysitting, So that's
a huge part of community because.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I need that mental space.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But they also rally behind me through my wins, my losses,
my injuries, my triumphs. I've had a strong team of coaches,
family and friends that have uplifted me and held me
to say, you as you are today is the perfect
version of you. It doesn't matter what your time was
at that race, which is hard to hear as an
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athlete because we're very tuned into our athletic performance.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Dick our worth.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
As you are, Queen, you are perfect as this Now.
How can I help you achieve something else? Or how
can I help you appreciate the achievements you've had thus far?
That part is more difficult for me, but my community's
helping me work through that too.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
We're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
We'll be right back with Queen Harrison Clay.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And we're back with olympian and entrepreneur Queen Harrison Clay.
When you're a highly driven person, that can be difficult.
You know, Queen, we've talked a lot about what you've
given to the sport, but how about what sports gives
to you to girls? Why is it important to encourage
girls to stay in sports?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Sport it literally helps throughout your entire life. I can
say that boldly and proudly because I know so many
many women that competed in sports, maybe in high school
or college.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
They're not doing it anymore, and they always talk about
the foundations and the fundamentals that they learned in sports,
how it helped them throughout their career. I mean, I'm
talking about c suite level position women that are in
these amazing companies, and they always dial back and say, yeah,
I did growing or water polo, or I learned how
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to work within a team at a young age and
that helped me get to where I am today. So
I say, sport obviously for the physical benefits and the
health benefits, but that team camaraderie, the confidence and self
awareness that you have within yourself and your body. It's
very difficult to find those spaces, especially as a young
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woman and a girl growing up. So when you're in
that sporting realm and it's like your input directly affects
the output. I mean, what better way to showcase how
hard work can help you and the rest of your life.
In sports?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You're a mentor to women, to athletes. I love that
you wear bold lipstick to sort of encourage women to
show up boldly as themselves. Simona and I get to
interview so many athletes on this show, and it seems
like there's this point in time where it feels really
difficult to find yourself outside of sport because it's so
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all consuming, it requires so much dedication. You so clearly
have done that, like you have Queen the athlete and
Queen the human being. What do you attribute that to?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Maturity and the confidence that you get with going through
things and learning along the way?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Young Queen Beijing two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Queen Oh no, she would not be doing all this
stuff because there's you kind of hit it on the head.
There's this myth in sports of if you're to be great,
it has to be all consuming. It's an amazing film
to be on that top of the podium. I won't
say it's not. However, it's fleeting right. You're on the
top of the podium, and then you got to work
extra hard to get back to the top. So when
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all your eggs are in the one basket and you're
not able to even enjoy life the fruits of your labor,
I feel like you you may have a shorter career
as well, because what fun is it to like keep
hammering for the same exact goal. You're not going to
graduations or birthday parties. I mean, I'm telling you this
is what we are taught at a young age. Being
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an elite athlete means all that other stuff can come later.
And unfortunately, sometimes later happens and you look back and
you're like, wow, I really missed out on some opportunities
or some things that I wish I would have done.
So now you know me in this stage in life,
I know there's you know, there's duality. There's Queen the athlete,
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and I am very much an elite athlete. I'm still
doing my thing. I got Athletic Girls Club because I
want to inspire the next generation of change makers and
women in this world that have a foundation in sport.
I can do all those things and I will, and
I'll keep being an advocate that you don't just have
to be one dimensional.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I want to talk to you more about being an
airbnb host because I'm getting ready to become a host myself.
How's that supplemental income feeling, girl?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Okay, because I'm talking about extra money. I think it's
so unique for me, especially because when you're training sometimes
you have to go here, here, here, you know, like
right now we're in Atlanta. We're usually based in San Diego.
So I would either just be paying mortgage for my
house to sit there.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right do it? Or it's like, let's offset those costs.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
And I think sometimes people don't think about that as
well when it comes to being an Airbnb host. Maybe
you don't want to host and it's not about making
a profit. It's like, let me offset the cost while
I go to Europe on baking exactly, and it just
feels good. Like you said, I'll keep that money in
my pocket.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It's so easy, that's the best part about it. It's
like you already have the house, you might as well
let somebody else stay in it, make a little extra cash, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, tell me about what makes your space special, like
what's what is it like? Like, what color is it?
And also what's been your favorite part about hosting.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So our home.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
First of all, it's called so cozy SoCal, right like,
so if hopefully that sums up what are you getting.
It's cozy like deep set couches where you can like
fall asleep and my husband has many times. And then
because it's about less than two miles from the beach,
we have all this outdoor space and like livable outdoor space.
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So there's a table, there's a fire pit. We're gonna
put some Olympic rings out there. We're like, are we
too literal? I don't think, so let's put some Olympic
rings in.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, your husband's an Olympian too, right, So.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Exactly we're an Olympic family. Lean into it the next
step exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
But it's a lot of outdoor indoor Liverpool space. It's cozy,
it's well equipped. I mean everything from coffee maker to cups,
to sheets to can openers, whatever you need is in
the house. All you got to do is get food
and bring your body and have a great time.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Just get cozy.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So you're currently training to qualify for Paris. Have you
already started looking at Airbnb's in Paris, yet just like
a little browsing just for fun.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
We have really my in laws, like my husband's family,
They're like, they don't play. Can we find something big
enough for all of us? So what we're hoping is
like a couple of little apartments that are in the
same building so that we're all within reach because we're
just so close knit.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But you know, I've been looking in Paris, and then
I've also been looking for.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
After the games when it's vacation, Like, Okay, where are
we going. I'm trying to go to Sardinia, Let's go
to Italy, Let's go to all the places.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Since we're already in Europe.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You gotta get your bank, you gotta get your bang
for your book when you go over there.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm gonna need to get your travel tips with your
two year old because I have not brought my toddlers
to Europe yet, but I really want to.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But I'm also scared.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You'll never There'll never be that age again.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Whatever fear you have lean into, like this is an experience.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Have you ever been on a plane with toddlers when
they are screaming four hours and the whole.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Plane is looking at you. I have it.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I haven't experienced, I've seen it, and you know hindsight.
I'm like, girl, you can't be judging, because no, you
really never know.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But you know what it's like. Just have a little checklist.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
You know your babies, you know what makes them excited
and what they love to do.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Just triple it times for and let all those other
rules go out the window.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Like screen time, girl, get it much as much as
you get, as much snacks as you want.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Andy sugar, screen time, all the bad things. You get
it all whenever we're traveling.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Because I'm just trying to watch a movie too.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I'm just trying to live in peace. I'm just trying
to protect my piece. Okay, thanks that It'll be great.
It will be Queen. This has been so much fun
chatting with you. Thank you so much for bringing your
light to our show and sharing your experience of being
an airbnb host. I'm so excited now.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Thank you so much for having me and like, get
to it. Come on, get that thing listed so I
can come and stay at your house.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Because I think you got a pool, so list it
so I can come.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's true, yus, this has been so awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Thank you, Queen, Thank you so much. A'll have a
great one.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Queen Harrison Clay is an Olympic hurdler sprinter and the
co founder of the Athletic Girls Club. We'll be cheering
her on when she competes in the Olympic Trials later
this month. This segment was in partnership with Airbnb. And
that's it for today's episode. On tomorrow's show, it's Flirty Friday.
(27:01):
Here at the bright Side, We're bringing you another edition
of our dating and relationship segment, Catching Feelings, this time
with flirt coach Ben Cameras.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Simone Boye.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You can find me at Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. That's ro Ba.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Y see you tomorrow, folks.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Keep looking on the bright side.
Hey, fam, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, Olympic
hurdler and sprinter Queen Harrison Clay. She's here to talk
about this summer's Paris Olympics, her dedication to empowering female athletes,
and how hosting on Airbnb enables her to do it all.
It's Thursday, June sixth I'm Danielle Robe.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And I'm Simone Boyce, and this is the bright Side
from Hello Sunshine, Simone.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We both want to be athletes. I know we're going
to be following the Olympics. They're only one month away,
and there's been so much anticipation and so many high
profile returns like Simone Biles. There's also been some devastating
losses like Gabby Douglass having to pull out due to
an ankle injury. I feel like I need a countdown
on my whiteboard in my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Road to the Olympics. I can already hear the theme
song in my head. I'm so ready for it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Give it to me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
As we get closer to the kickoff in Paris, Danielle,
we are going to talk a lot about the roads
of the Olympics right here on the bright Side, and
I'm really excited because we're going to be bringing the
best and the brightest voices on to tell us who
we should be paying attention to, what goes into being
an Olympian, and also the feeling of what it's like
to be in the stands. I have never actually attended
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an Olympics. It has eluded me, and I've got to
do it one day.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's such a bucket list moment. Also, I feel like
you and I we've talked about being patriotic. It feels
like such an ultimate American moment to go be at
the Olympics. It's super exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I would for sure wear a cape of some sort
if I went like it would be a flag, probably
either the American flag or the Rings flag, but there
would be a cape involved for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, we are joined by someone who's actually in the
mists of training for the Olympic trials. Queen Harrison Clay
made history in two thousand and eight when she became
the youngest member of the US track and field team
to compete in the Summer Olympics in Beijing. And beyond
the track, Queen is also just so fly like. She
has amazing style, wears cool lipstick, cool clothes, and she's
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also really passionate about empowering female athletes and helping them
succeed on and off the field. She's actually doing something
about it too, through a social organization that she co
founded called the Athletic Girls Club for girls age thirteen
to seventeen and eighteen to twenty three. She's just empowering
female athletes across the board.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, we know sports are integral and shaping our
future leaders. We've talked a lot on the bright side
about that pipeline from the field to the c suite,
But there's new research out that underscores the positive impact
on mental health. So it turns out that girls who
participate in sports can have lower rates of depression and anxiety.
And this is so interesting, Danielle. Girls who play sports
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report one point five times higher levels of meaning and
purpose compared to those who never played.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I feel that in my own life playing I don't
know if I necessarily play sports, but I work out
and having a strong body gives me a strong mind,
and vice versa, like one feeds the other. So every
time we have an athlete on our show, she affirms
what you and I both know to be true. One
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After the Break, the Fast and the fabulous Queen Harrison
Clay is here and we're talking about her Olympic journey,
the moment that almost kept her from making the Olympics
last time, and the power of her community. We'll be
right back. This segment is in partnership with Airbnb. We're
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back with Olympic hurdler, sprinter, entrepreneur and mom, Queen Harrison Clay.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And that's not all. She's also in the Airbnb host
club too. Queen, Welcome to the bright Side.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to hopefully become
a bright Side bestie.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh my god, you're ready, one girl, girl, you ain't
got to do that thing. You're already there.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Okay, Okay, what's up. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Your name is Queen, You're in. We're good, And I'm
excited because Simone is hosting for Airbnb. You're hosting for
Airbnb one day. I aspire to be a host. But
I'm fascinated by your origin story. I read that you
first started running track as a way to make friends.
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At what point did it become a parent that you
could really do this at an elite level.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, I definitely started with making friends. I mean, I
come from a huge family. I'm one of twenty three
children that my dad has. Fun fact, so my friends
were always just my family. That's what my parents told me, like,
your your family is your friends. And then we moved
from upstate New York down to Richmond, Virginia, and I
didn't know anyone. I was going to middle school and
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everyone was kind of clicked up from elementary school or
in local neighborhoods. And I was like, well, what's the
biggest team or organization that I could jump on? And
I saw the track team and it was co ed,
you know, so that was actually added on this because well,
so you know, me young pre teen girl joined the
track team and I kind of just took to it immediately.
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I had a running past in the past, but to
be in an organized sport that was my first time.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I just had a friend tell me that I should
join a run club to meet men. So now you
have confirmed her suspicions. I'm going to do it. But
we've talked a lot about how opportunities for female athletes
have changed drastically in recent years, and you were training
and discovering the sport in the early two thousands. What
kind of road map existed for you at that time.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Oh my, it's so different, different terrain. I mean, there
still are uphill battles. But when I started, it was
very much your track athlete. There was no distinction between
male or female. And I think there were good parts
about that because people were kind of treated equally on
in the sport at that time. But then it also
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didn't take into account the nuances that come along as
being a female athlete, as being a woman, a young woman,
and how our body develops differently, so that one size
all approach that we kind of got boxed into when
I was younger. It's good to see it now, to
see female athletes and women in general just shining as women,
not just as an athlete, like honing in on what
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makes us different and celebrating that. It's dope to see.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
In twenty twenty four, Queen, you qualified for the Beijing
Olympics in two thousand and eight when you were just
a sophomore at Virginia Tech. As someone who failed at
literally every sport, I don't know what that feels like.
So I'm hoping to live vicariously through you through this question.
What do you remember about getting that call or getting
that news.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, So when we'd qualify for the Olympic Games, there's
like a host and a series of event. So I
was in my collegiate season. We had the NCAA National Championships.
I'll never forget this. My coach put me in an
event I usually didn't do, which was the four x
one relay.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I'm on third leg, I'm running for my team, and
I ended up pulling.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
My quad muscle, which is like detrimental to sprinting because
it's huge muscle that you need.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So I didn't get to finish that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
National championships and Olympic trials were about two and a
half three weeks away, so any thought I had of
making the team kind of started to diminish because I
hurt myself and Team USA is a very competitive team
to make. But thankfully I had a great team around
me that rallied. We did so much physical therapy and
treatment and all that type of stuff, and even just
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mentally training to say, look, if you can be well
enough and healthy enough to step out on the line,
the sky is the limit. And I literally ran on faith,
like I look back at that race, and I think
about it. I was out in laying eight, which is
like not a you know, like not the best.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Lane to be in.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I was the last person qualified into the final Olympic trials.
Even on the last straightaway a girl fell over the
hurdle rolled.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Into my lane.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I had to jump over her, and somehow I still
was able to get second place and make the Olympic
team as this nineteen year old. And so I think
that was a testament if I didn't know before then
that I belong here. I have the mental fortitude and
the physical attributes to be an Olympian integrate. That solidified it.
I still get chills thinking about it and looking at
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that race.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We often hear about athletes having this really intense mind
body connection, and an athlete like Simone Biles has talked
about how you know, before certain events she had either
a good gut feeling or a bad gut feeling about
what was about to happen. So that day, when you
were qualifying for the Olympics, what was your mental state?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like what I do remember was like the freedom. There
was something about getting injured two weeks prior, nobody looking
at me to make the team. There wasn't that added
pressure from the public. I was a long shot by
their eyes. So I think being able to just go
in there authentically, like run my best race without those
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additional pressures, my mind was free because whatever the outcome was,
I was proud. Yeah, and I was even prouder to
make the team, obviously, but I was just proud to
have withstood all the things that happened that season to
still stand on that line and represent myself, my family,
and my university.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That it was a freedom that allowed me to make
that team.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Queen, you mentioned mental fortitude, and you know, I've read
a few books about sports psychology because I think so
much of it is applicable to our daily lives. One
of my favorites is How Champions Think by doctor Bob Rotella,
and in sports he talks about this moment of psyching
yourself up. But it doesn't just happen right before the race.
It happens in the weeks leading up to the race.
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And now you're leading up to the Olympic qualifiers for
the Paris Games. How are you psyching yourself up and
preparing for that make or break race?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, I think everyone's adopted it now when they're like
the lulu is the Salulu I swear like athletes. We've
been doing that for ages where it doesn't matter like
how you're seated going into a race, and that means
you could be coming in as the twelfth fastest or
the second fastest. When you come to that field of
play or that line in your mind, you've told yourself
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you're better than everyone else in that race because the
race is against you versu yourself. And so as I
get ready for the Olympic Trials, get ready for the
Paris Games, every day is about chipping off at being
better than I was yesterday, a week before, even an
hour before. And I think once you with age, with maturity,
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comes that self confidence that if I can beat myself yesterday,
why can't I beat anyone else in the world. And
that can go into so many different industries, not just
an athlete.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So how do you find that self confidence on days
when you're not feeling confident or when you need to
push through those near misses as an athlete.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Looking for like outside motivation, especially now I'm a mother,
you know, going into motherhood, she just turned to this
may but now there's like this additional external factor that
motivates me to shine my brightest as the brightest star
that I can be. It used to be me, It
used to be the accolades, and those things are still important,
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but now family, especially this young girl, impressionable who I
want to be her greatest version of herself. I would
be remiss not to be my best version. So when
it's hard and it's hot, or you know, I have
a ding here and bang the knee here, I just
can regroup and think not just for myself, but for
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little Queen Cary, that's my baby.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'm so glad you brought her up because I want
to know what training looks like for the Paris Olympic Games.
Now that you're a mom, it's got to be different.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Very different in great ways and in really challenging ways.
I would say maybe within the past two months it
just felt very all consuming. It was like never an
off switch because when I go into training and I'm
at the track, I'm fully focused on that. And in
the past, when I leave the track, I would be
able to decompress fully.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I can put my feet up on the.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Couch, getting the ice back whatever, and focus totally on me,
but now it switches from track queen to mommy queen,
in which case it leaves less space for me to
just have that same type of recovery.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But I've gotten the gist of it.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
It just kind of has taken some time to learn
how to be selfish and not think of it as
a bad way. I mean, I would have never gotten
to the place that I am if I wasn't selfish
throughout my career and my life, because I have to
be for these hundreds of a second that I'm trying
to get to win or to go to the Olympic
Games and get a gold medal. So doing that when
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your mother seems kind of taboo because they say no,
selfish is bad, selfless good. But you have to have
that balance, and I've learned it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So I love that you just said I am selfish
because we are taught as women to be selfless. You
said it, What does being selfish look like like? Give
me specifics if you can.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, it's about prioritizing my time and my recovery. It
goes without saying that your baby or your child is
always going to be at the forefront of your mind.
But initially it would be I'd get done with training
and I'm like rushing home, like, no, there's no stops.
I mean, I'm like, the only place you need to
go is a grocery store or something for her. And
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now it's like, Okay, do I need to go get
in the cold tub? Do I need to go to
the chiropractor? These are things I need to do for
my body to perform at its best, and so I've
taken that time even if it's like, oh, you want
to go get your hair done, which is something I
used to love to do, because just as much as
Fast as part of my brand, so is fabulous. So
I'm like that brings me joy, and it makes training
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better and it makes my life better. And so tapping
back into those things that bring me joy makes training
that much that much better.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I am. I love that you said fast and fabulous
because one of my favorite athletes growing up was flow Jo,
and I feel like she made fast and fabulous possible.
So I love that you're carrying the torch. But you
have a new title that you're adding to your resume.
You're the co founder of Athletic Girls Club, which is
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a new membership based social organization dedicated to empowering female athletes.
Why is this club so needed?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
My's beyond needed.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I think it literally just about what I wish I
had when I was younger, you know, like you mentioned
flow Jo, I remember seeing playbacks and replays of her
and how she came to the line. It felt like
her authentic self. And so with Athletic Girls Club, I'm here,
I'm a living testament to bringing your authentic self to
the line.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And I know the root of that is.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
The confidence and the self awareness that I got through sport.
So that's our common thread of all the girls in
the Athletic Girls Club. We are all connected through our
love of sport because we're active or we're active female athletes.
But we know only less than one percent goes on
to be a professional athlete.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
So it's like, how do they pivot?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
How do we provide resources and a network that if
they want to host their own podcast, we have a
network within the Athletic Girls Club that they can tap
into and do an internship.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's really that just.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Paying it forward that I've done at a unofficial capacity
most of my career to now make it a thriving
membership club that I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm excited for you as you create the version of
community that you want to see in the world. You
talked about how isolating it can be as an elite athlete,
and this word community, it feels like it gets thrown
around a lot these days, and sometimes it feels really hollow,
and I don't know that it carries a lot of meaning.
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So I'm curious what does community mean to you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
As definitely thrown around a lot. I think community to
me is more. It's not just the word or us
grouping together physically. It's about we have this common thread
and I want you to be the best version of yourself.
You want me to be the best version of myself.
So how do we pool our resources, our mind, our
strengths so that everybody in our community can be the
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best version of ourselves. I mean, a rising tide lifts
all ships, and so what we hope and look for
Athletic Girls Club and this network that create to do
is to rise all of our girls. I mean these
are girls that are thirteen to seventeen and then eighteen
to twenty four. You know, this is a really distinct
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group of young girls and women that we know if
polished correctly and given the space and the freedom to
express themselves in whatever way that looks. They're going to
be the change makers of the world, and we just
want to be a small part of helping them get there.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
How has your community shown up for you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean now, they help me with babysitting, So that's
a huge part of community because.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I need that mental space.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But they also rally behind me through my wins, my losses,
my injuries, my triumphs. I've had a strong team of coaches,
family and friends that have uplifted me and held me
to say, you as you are today is the perfect
version of you. It doesn't matter what your time was
at that race, which is hard to hear as an
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athlete because we're very tuned into our athletic performance.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Dick our worth.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
As you are, Queen, you are perfect as this Now.
How can I help you achieve something else? Or how
can I help you appreciate the achievements you've had thus far?
That part is more difficult for me, but my community's
helping me work through that too.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
We're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
We'll be right back with Queen Harrison Clay.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And we're back with olympian and entrepreneur Queen Harrison Clay.
When you're a highly driven person, that can be difficult.
You know, Queen, we've talked a lot about what you've
given to the sport, but how about what sports gives
to you to girls? Why is it important to encourage
girls to stay in sports?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Sport it literally helps throughout your entire life. I can
say that boldly and proudly because I know so many
many women that competed in sports, maybe in high school
or college.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
They're not doing it anymore, and they always talk about
the foundations and the fundamentals that they learned in sports,
how it helped them throughout their career. I mean, I'm
talking about c suite level position women that are in
these amazing companies, and they always dial back and say, yeah,
I did growing or water polo, or I learned how
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to work within a team at a young age and
that helped me get to where I am today. So
I say, sport obviously for the physical benefits and the
health benefits, but that team camaraderie, the confidence and self
awareness that you have within yourself and your body. It's
very difficult to find those spaces, especially as a young
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woman and a girl growing up. So when you're in
that sporting realm and it's like your input directly affects
the output. I mean, what better way to showcase how
hard work can help you and the rest of your life.
In sports?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You're a mentor to women, to athletes. I love that
you wear bold lipstick to sort of encourage women to
show up boldly as themselves. Simona and I get to
interview so many athletes on this show, and it seems
like there's this point in time where it feels really
difficult to find yourself outside of sport because it's so
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all consuming, it requires so much dedication. You so clearly
have done that, like you have Queen the athlete and
Queen the human being. What do you attribute that to?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Maturity and the confidence that you get with going through
things and learning along the way?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Young Queen Beijing two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Queen Oh no, she would not be doing all this
stuff because there's you kind of hit it on the head.
There's this myth in sports of if you're to be great,
it has to be all consuming. It's an amazing film
to be on that top of the podium. I won't
say it's not. However, it's fleeting right. You're on the
top of the podium, and then you got to work
extra hard to get back to the top. So when
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all your eggs are in the one basket and you're
not able to even enjoy life the fruits of your labor,
I feel like you you may have a shorter career
as well, because what fun is it to like keep
hammering for the same exact goal. You're not going to
graduations or birthday parties. I mean, I'm telling you this
is what we are taught at a young age. Being
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an elite athlete means all that other stuff can come later.
And unfortunately, sometimes later happens and you look back and
you're like, wow, I really missed out on some opportunities
or some things that I wish I would have done.
So now you know me in this stage in life,
I know there's you know, there's duality. There's Queen the athlete,
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and I am very much an elite athlete. I'm still
doing my thing. I got Athletic Girls Club because I
want to inspire the next generation of change makers and
women in this world that have a foundation in sport.
I can do all those things and I will, and
I'll keep being an advocate that you don't just have
to be one dimensional.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I want to talk to you more about being an
airbnb host because I'm getting ready to become a host myself.
How's that supplemental income feeling, girl?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Okay, because I'm talking about extra money. I think it's
so unique for me, especially because when you're training sometimes
you have to go here, here, here, you know, like
right now we're in Atlanta. We're usually based in San Diego.
So I would either just be paying mortgage for my
house to sit there.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right do it? Or it's like, let's offset those costs.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
And I think sometimes people don't think about that as
well when it comes to being an Airbnb host. Maybe
you don't want to host and it's not about making
a profit. It's like, let me offset the cost while
I go to Europe on baking exactly, and it just
feels good. Like you said, I'll keep that money in
my pocket.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It's so easy, that's the best part about it. It's
like you already have the house, you might as well
let somebody else stay in it, make a little extra cash, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, tell me about what makes your space special, like
what's what is it like? Like, what color is it?
And also what's been your favorite part about hosting.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So our home.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
First of all, it's called so cozy SoCal, right like,
so if hopefully that sums up what are you getting.
It's cozy like deep set couches where you can like
fall asleep and my husband has many times. And then
because it's about less than two miles from the beach,
we have all this outdoor space and like livable outdoor space.
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So there's a table, there's a fire pit. We're gonna
put some Olympic rings out there. We're like, are we
too literal? I don't think, so let's put some Olympic
rings in.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, your husband's an Olympian too, right, So.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Exactly we're an Olympic family. Lean into it the next
step exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
But it's a lot of outdoor indoor Liverpool space. It's cozy,
it's well equipped. I mean everything from coffee maker to cups,
to sheets to can openers, whatever you need is in
the house. All you got to do is get food
and bring your body and have a great time.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Just get cozy.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So you're currently training to qualify for Paris. Have you
already started looking at Airbnb's in Paris, yet just like
a little browsing just for fun.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
We have really my in laws, like my husband's family,
They're like, they don't play. Can we find something big
enough for all of us? So what we're hoping is
like a couple of little apartments that are in the
same building so that we're all within reach because we're
just so close knit.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But you know, I've been looking in Paris, and then
I've also been looking for.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
After the games when it's vacation, Like, Okay, where are
we going. I'm trying to go to Sardinia, Let's go
to Italy, Let's go to all the places.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Since we're already in Europe.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You gotta get your bank, you gotta get your bang
for your book when you go over there.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm gonna need to get your travel tips with your
two year old because I have not brought my toddlers
to Europe yet, but I really want to.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But I'm also scared.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You'll never There'll never be that age again.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Whatever fear you have lean into, like this is an experience.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Have you ever been on a plane with toddlers when
they are screaming four hours and the whole.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Plane is looking at you. I have it.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I haven't experienced, I've seen it, and you know hindsight.
I'm like, girl, you can't be judging, because no, you
really never know.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But you know what it's like. Just have a little checklist.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
You know your babies, you know what makes them excited
and what they love to do.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Just triple it times for and let all those other
rules go out the window.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Like screen time, girl, get it much as much as
you get, as much snacks as you want.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Andy sugar, screen time, all the bad things. You get
it all whenever we're traveling.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Because I'm just trying to watch a movie too.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I'm just trying to live in peace. I'm just trying
to protect my piece. Okay, thanks that It'll be great.
It will be Queen. This has been so much fun
chatting with you. Thank you so much for bringing your
light to our show and sharing your experience of being
an airbnb host. I'm so excited now.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Thank you so much for having me and like, get
to it. Come on, get that thing listed so I
can come and stay at your house.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Because I think you got a pool, so list it
so I can come.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's true, yus, this has been so awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Thank you, Queen, Thank you so much. A'll have a
great one.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Queen Harrison Clay is an Olympic hurdler sprinter and the
co founder of the Athletic Girls Club. We'll be cheering
her on when she competes in the Olympic Trials later
this month. This segment was in partnership with Airbnb. And
that's it for today's episode. On tomorrow's show, it's Flirty Friday.
(27:01):
Here at the bright Side, We're bringing you another edition
of our dating and relationship segment, Catching Feelings, this time
with flirt coach Ben Cameras.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Simone Boye.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You can find me at Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. That's ro Ba.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Y see you tomorrow, folks.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Keep looking on the bright side.
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