October 16, 2023 • 40 mins
Hugh Millen with Hardcore Football! Hugh takes us through the intricate levels of the Seahawks loss to the Bengals. What went wrong and what was encouraging to look toward in the future? Ian had the chance to catch up with several Seahawks players in Cincinnati and we take a listen to his conversations with Devon Witherspoon and Tre Brown. The Daily Power Play! Mike Benton joins us in studio to give us a glimpse behind the scenes of the Kraken's 0-3 start. There's no point to panic and there are some positive developments to look into.
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Hugh Millan joins me. After acouple week absence, we had a bye
week, travel, all that funstuff, and we're here back together again.
Hardcore football every Monday after a Seahawkgame, win or lose. Unfortunately
it was a loss. My friend, how are you today? I'm doing
well from Saturday. Yeah, ThisDaywas a little bit of a letdown,
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but you know, I think somewhatpredictable Ian because the psychological advantages probably favored
the Bengals here. They had finallygot on track, I think in their
prior week after having really stumbled outof the gate, and I think Seattle
riding a win streak, there wasn'ta sense of desperation for them. So
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I think the Bengals playing at homein more of a must win situation and
feeling good about themselves, that there'sprobably advantage that ended up playing out,
all right, So Hugh, letme start right with it, actually the
second to last drive, because boy, it felt very eerily similar to the
last two drives for Seattle, stallinginside the red zone. Let me start
there because he had a lot ofa great chance to take a lead there,
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you know, once again, afteryou know, after the defense gets
a stop first and ten and theball is at the Seattle thirty six yard
line and there's six minutes and seventeenseconds left, they start with a ken
Walker run off right guard for fouryards. I little start and away they
go. And then and a bigplay after that with Gino Smith. But
let's let's walk through what we sawin that drive. Yeah, well,
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I think the critical part was leadingup to the first and goal at a
seven. There was a third downthere where they hit DK on a slant,
and from a hardcore perspective, ifyou're playing the Bengals, that corner
on DK just what's called press bail. He just bailed out of their way
too deep for a third down,and so you get an easy slant completion
down to the seven, setting upfirst and goal at the seven. That
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was a third and seven ball atthe sixteen. Yeah, they got that
quick boot a huge and that wasa huge play. I mean, because
we were discussing in the press box, like do you kick the field goal
here? Probably right, you know, to pull within one point. But
he got the first down and thennow you're sitting there, as you said,
first and goal at the seven atthe Cincinnati seven yard line, and
then it went south quick Well,this was a really bad play for Seattle.
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They'd call a fade route to Gino'sleft to DK. Now, the
corner was really aggressive at the lineof scrimmage, so when Gino looked over
there, DK was getting jammed andand just a second later he came open,
and so you would coach Geno,it's just like, look, if
you see that aggressive of a jam, you know he's got a chance to
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break free, and it would havebeen a relatively easy touchdown in the back
of the end zone to DK.If not, then in your vision is
you got K nine just sitting rightthere in the alley. It's right in
your field of vision. Just dumpit to your left. He chose to
do the lway spin and take atwelve yard loss on first and goal at
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the seven. Yeah, take ona quick game, on a quick game
call where the ball is supposed tocome out, to lose twelve yards is
just almost unforgivable. So he goesthere and by the way I mean that,
Yeah, I think that was justkind of one of those big head
scratching moves. Geno Van goes onsecond and nineteen and he's incomplete down the
middle. There's pressure there too,right, Yeah, that was empty formation
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and it's a single safety. Hehad a chance. Look, look,
all pro level, pro bowl levelthrow would have been he had Jackson Smith
and Jigma on a scene. Now, it would have been a tight throw,
But there was an opportunity for atouchdown there, but then he's got
in front of him, he's gottena fan for a checkdown type of completion,
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and he just he just doesn't seeit and he ends up checking the
ball down late, essentially like adump. So that's an incompletion. Then
third and nineteen, which is thirdand goal from the nineteen Gino got.
He hit Jackson Smith and Jigba forthirteen yard game kind of put him back
into the you know, back intothe conversation to go for it. Yeah,
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they get the double slant and onboth sides mirrored mirrored double slants,
and so that sets up the fourthand sixth and and on that They have
a concept where they're going to getFan on a corner route and they're going
to try and get dk on andand Tyler on a little combination out there,
manned outside the Bengals zoned inside thefree safety he's supposed to be in
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the middle field, he pushes tothat three receiver side to help on the
corner route with Van. Structurally,if we're talking about this on a whiteboard,
then you'd say, Okay, thesingle side receiver should have that post
because the free safety has vacated themiddlefield. That was Parkinson, but the
corner just jumped inside. You couldalmost say it was a legal contact,
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But it was almost as if theBengals knew the play call a really good
job of them ding up in thered zone. Is there anything on that
fourth and sixth as you described thatthat Gino could have done differently or better
besides taking a fact for eight yards, Well, I think that. I
think it was just a box ofcoat hangers over on the left side,
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you know, I just credit therewas other times. There was other times
I studied the hell out of MichaelPennis, and there was a fourth down
going towards the lake where he threwto a not a second but a third
string slot receiver on a fourth downon a little choice route, and he
threw with remarkable anticipation. And thenI'm looking at at Gino, a Sunday
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player, and he's not willing toturn the ball loose there week. I've
got a whole list of plays underthe heading of Geno conservative where he just
wasn't pulling the triggers. So Ithink if I were to just say on
that play there was nothing, Ithink that might If that's all I said
disclosed to you. That would notindicate my opinion about how Gino played on
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that play. However, Yeah,not much and he gets sacked. That
was one of those plays you thatmaybe sometimes the other team does a nice
job, right, like too,Yeah, they they schemed it up and
did a nice job. I wantto jump ahead because I think, you
know, as we're looking through this, then Seattle gets the ball back,
you know, the Bengal I mean, I kind of feel like, God,
that's that might be brutal because there'stwo l eight left to go.
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He's sacked first and ten for Cincinnatiat their own fourteen yard line. Incomplete
pass to Chase Mixing goes for fourand then incomplete to Higgins and there was
actually a penalty on Higgins at play. Trey Brown was right with him and
Higgins pushed off. They decline itQ. Seattle gets the ball back one
thirty nine left to go, downby four and the ball of their own
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forty yard line, and we're thinking, hey, here we go, let's
get this thing done. Yeah,And the first play there they get a
sting route down the middle with thekey play. I should say that a
sting route is where you lean onthe corner in a cover two defense where
there's a hole in the middle betweenthose two safeties, and Tyler Locket he
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faked the corner like he's going tosideline. Went back to the post.
Beautiful call, beautiful execution, andyou feel like, wow, maybe we
got something. Thirty six yard passplay and god, Hugh, just for
a second, who else would youthrow it too? Then sixteen? Huh,
Like it's just it's I mean,this guy just makes play sometimes and
you get down. So now it'sit's first and ten at the Cincinnati eleven
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yard line, fifty five seconds left. You've got a time out in your
pocket. Go time, que gotime. What happened on that first and
ten play? He was incomplete?Yeah, so they call a fade route
again to DK to his left.Now and the time before where I said,
hey, in the series before DKcame open and there was an opportunity
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for a touchdown, it had beenpress, aggressive press. Now the corner
on that side he's playing off.There's kind of a safety shaded over there
a little bit, so the cornerhas helped to the slant so the corner
can play the fade. So there'snothing there and and Gino just hangs on
that. It was almost as ifhe had been told, look, just
hang on the fade a little bitmore, but that was a different look.
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Yeah, So now he's like overcoach to focus on DK. When
he had what's called why stick combination, a three man concept to his right
with doublet outs by the innermost andmiddle of three and then Tyler to clear
out, he had an opportunity tohis right to hit one of those those
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stick routes, and and he wasjust kind of hung up on the left
side. So so he was hungup when he shouldn't have been on the
fade route to DK, when theprior series he should have been more hung
up on the fade route to DK. Right. It's just kind of one
of those days. But you gotto see the picture if you're Gino to
know why you have the opportunity withone fade route and you don't with the
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other. All right, So thenwe two yard run by ken Walker gets
you to second and or sorry,third and eight from the Cincinnati nine yard
line. Cincinnati takes a time out, Seattle takes the time out, so
everyone's kind of getting their ducks ina row. H third and eight ballgame
not quite on the line, butthird and eight from the Cincinnati nine and
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Gino throws incomplete short middle. Thedk MEX just really question this concept that
they they're running into the boundary ballson the left hash. They had already
cut the fourth down play that Ihad. Remember I said, yeah,
uh fan on a corner route thatthere's a it's it's kind of like a
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double fin corner. Uh. Imean that's football parlance. But what I
had described in the prior fourth downplay. Now they're running a similar look
to that, and and yet they'redoing it into the short side. Uh
uh uh. It's trips left andthe balls on the left hash. So
the spacing, even by alignment,everything was just too tight. And so
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that's generally a wide to the fieldconcept unless you're getting some some real uh
let's say, guaranteed roll to thefield. You know. It's just that
that I'm questioning Shane Waldron on theconcept of why you would run that so
tightly packed into the boundary because there'sno room. There's just no room to
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make a play, is what you'retelling you got you got five defenders,
three receivers all I mean, youknow, you know, not only would
one grenade kill eight guys, youknow one one eight would kill eight guys.
I mean, they're just it's likeeverybody's in a phone book, you
know, its just space. Usea human can I use a humil in
term? It feels like what wasit again? A box full of coat
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hangers? But but you know whatI think people, I think that you
can relate to that. I thinkpeople can relate to that. Okay,
So so that's a so okay,all that goes away fourth and eight,
Cincinnati nine yard line. This isfor the ball game. You've got to
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make a play here. Walk usthrough what ended up being. He wasn't
sacked, but he got smoked onthe play by by Hill. All kinds
of pressure came up on that fourthand eight from the Cincinnati nine, and
that was the ball game. Yeah. Well they're trying to get DK on
a little uh a read in themiddle stutter and then go through the scene.
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But the safety's just read it perfectly. They're just really wasn't much on
the play yet. Parkinson on what'scalled a corner stop, but he was
to Gino's left. He was tightlycovered. I look, I got I
got to give credit where it's due. I mean, you've got this defensive
coordinator. Remember when the Bengals Amonoloor somebody when they went to the Super
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Bowl. He was just on fireall through the playoffs. And so this
is a really competent dude in termsof his play calling and his scheming,
and they were just air tight andand you know, and looking at what
Seattle had, I I described youthe concept. It's it's uh, it's
it's trying to get DK through themiddle. And then you've got what's called
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corner stop routes mirrored by Parkinson andand Tyler on on the left and right,
respectively. Everybody's covered. And andthis was the time where Gina was
just overwhelmed early in the down withthe uh. Finally, what I was
concerned, what you were concerned,what we were all concerned about what would
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happen in Detroit. Based on whatwe had seen in the fourth quarter of
the RAM game with the backup offensiveline, we thought it was just gonna
just grind to a dead halt,right, And so there was a number
of times there, you know,in that fourth quarter where where Gino had
some opportunities but not much and thenon this one. He really didn't have
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much and there wasn't anything, youknow, the combination of the even if
there had been good protection. Ithink that Cincinnati playing this uh this matchup
zone in the in the end zonewas just they were just on it.
Let me let me get two morethings in for you before we let you
go today, and I'll start withthis one. The two interceptions for Gino,
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because they were very different in howthey looked. One was in the
re zone, you know, atthe goal line with you know, Jackson
Smith and Jigba against like it feltlike the entire Cincinnati defense. And I
would dare say, Hugh, inthe quarterback room of any quarterback room of
any football team at any level inthe country, I'm guessing a red zone,
goal line inside the ten yard lineinterception is probably at the top of
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the list of do not do right. It's probably like, it's probably the
most egregious sin you can have.Let's start with that one and go from
there, just to what happened onthat interception that he was looking for Jackson
Smith and Jinga. Okay, sothey're trying to play like a special play
a special is kind of like Okay, you're only gonna do it once in
a game. You got Jackson Smithin Jigba in the backfield, he motions
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and he's going to run a wheelroute. Now, Cincinnati was in a
three deep four under zone. I'veI've likened many times to like that particular
zone coverage to like an outfield inan infield right yep. And and so
what's called the curl flat player oneither side is like the first baseman and
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the third baseman. They're they're thewidest guys of the four underneath and there
and and when you see like ona defensive play playbook, a lot of
times you'll just see c slash fokay for curl flat. You're playing the
curl which is is uh like atwelve to fifteen yard just stop route and
then you play that first and thento anybody in the flat right. But
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a lot of times people also putCFW curl flat wheel. So the guy
on and that's just the first basement. And from Geno's perspective, that's a
that's Mike Hilton. That's like oneof the top nickel guys in all of
the NFL. I mean, heis sensational and and you're trying to do
a wheel on him with a I'mgonna say a rookie wide receiver doesn't matter
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because that would imply that the rookiedidn't do something right. That's just a
really good curl. And then wheelplayer, he's got to carry the wheel
and so he does and is sohe's so on top of the route and
it was so easy, a cleanlook for Gino. It's almost like he
predetermined, like I'm going for thisand and and if you're Shane Waldon,
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the frustration and Pete Carroll is thatpart of the concept is like, hey,
if you don't have the wheel,We've got this cool concept that I
don't see often that Shane Waldron does, where they got a canin on a
swing route to the same side ofthe field, but they've got a tight
end leading almost he's running a swingroute too. It says in essence,
like a little mini screen, likethe tight end is gonna block for the
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dude, so you throw it tocanine. So so unless it's bright green
and you need a field goal there, right, unless the light is bright
green on that wheel, you justyou just throw it to canine on the
swing to the same side your eyesdon't have to go across the field,
and and he just he had allof a sudden a guy that predetermined just
really bad critical air. Hugh.I guess as I'm listening to that,
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because when we talked about the redzone problems on those final two drives a
couple of times, Cincinnati dialed itup perfectly a couple of times. You
know, there was a question aboutthe play calling and the concepts, the
concepts specifically from Shane Waldron with fieldposition, ball placement, et cetera.
On the hash mark this was onGino. That that interception one hundred percent
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on Gino because Waldron's play designed,his concept had him opportunities to still make
a play if Jackson Smith and Jigbawas covered. Is what you're telling me,
one hundred percent? Yeah, No, This is kind of like,
hey, uh, the sun comesup, the rooster crows, you eat
breakfast, like there's a sequence.This is how this is how you do
it. Yep. And this wouldbe something that you would tell high school
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I mean, I've hoped, I'vecoached high school quarterbacks. Yeah, I
mean, I'd have my palm tomy forehead if a high school kid did
that. So that that was somethinghe had to see and he didn't.
It's just look every even the bestquarterbacks, at some point you know they're
going to make a play that justdefies even explanation, and this was one
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of those plays for Geno. Phew, I got another huism for you.
That was a that was a doubleminus, and I might add two more
minuses to that play as you describedit, Bud. Okay, we've been
doing this for a long time andnothing, nothing puts more of a chuckle
in my in my day than hearingthe double minus. That's a double minus
times too, is what you're tellingme right now. Sometimes when you push
the minus on the keyboard that itgets stuck and it's just like this series
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of minuses. At some point youjust go, Okay, I think that's
enough, press center, and thenthere's like forty seven minuses. Oh I
love it. I love it allright, I got time for one more.
Just what happened on the other interception. It looked like DK maybe stop
broke off the route. That's that'swhy we have you here to explain what
happened on that interception. Okay,So first of all, I want to
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say, DK, you could makea long highlight tape of DK with the
highest amount of efforts on plays thathe knows he's there's a very rare chance
he's getting the ball. I mean, this guy almost always is is running
like he's running one hundred meter dashin the Olympics. I think they let
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me stop here. I think that'simportant because what fans see is DK making
a big play or making a bigcatch, or running guys over or the
other side, DK shoving a dBlate, getting pissed off, throwing a
tantrum. I think it. Youknow, I'm not. I find myself
probably defending him a lot on theradio or even on TV and stuff.
But I think that's an important conceptbecause when Hugh Millan watches a tape,
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you're watching it all twenty two,you see the entire field. You're telling
me if he's he's not even optionthree, he's still going, you know
what, to the wall. AndI think that's an important part because I
think there's people think he just kindof loafs out there and does stuff like
that. I think that's an importantthing that you just mentioned. Oh no,
you don't evaluate a receiver just onballs that are thrown to him.
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You know, because you evaluate whetherhe's gating open and whether the quarterback is
turning him down, and then youalso evaluate him. There's times, look
virtually every scheme that I see onthat I know exactly how it's taught in
the film room. And and DKat this juncture of his career, he
knows when he's not getting the ballright, and yet you still want to
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have him sprinting to clear out defendersand to influence defenders, and he gets
You know, if I guess aplus would be a guy who did it
all the time, I've never seena guy who does it all the time.
I mean he's he's ninety nine pointnine percent. I mean, he's
really good at that. And hehad a number of plays where before where
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they're calling shots on him. Iremember I said there was a list of
geno conservatives. They're calling shots.Uh you know, you know, for
example, a double post, you'relooking for quarters coverage, they get quarters
coverage. That's a safety that's goingto ride inside on Tyler's uhh. And
you got one on one with DK. He's running the posts, he's not
getting the ball. High corner routesagainst cover two, play action, max
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protection he's not getting the ball,and and so on this play, what
happened The ball is on the righthash and they run. I call it
Aztek. You've got you've got Tyleron a corner route to Gino's right,
and then you've got Fan in theflat. He looks to that side.
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Gino looks to that side. Andthen for your vision, you've got Jackson
Smith and Jigma who lined up onthe left. He's running a shallow cross.
So that all a lot of thisconcept is designed so your eyes can
flow. Hey, if you picka side and you go to the right,
you're going, hey, uh,Tyler on the corner then, and
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all that's to your right, andthen coming into your vision here comes into
your vision from left to right isJackson Smith and Jigma. You don't throw
a post route as a checkdown.And what he did Gino is he he
went back and he he looked tohis right and then he decided, well,
let me throw a post as acheckdown. That No, you throw
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the shallow cross right in front ofyou to Jackson Smith as a checkdown.
And what had happened there is thecorner because he had a plus split.
That's DK He's four or five yardsfrom the sideline. He's as wide from
the ball as he could possibly be. He's getting press covered. So when
he takes an inside release, thecorner knows that there's no threat of an
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outbreaking route because DK's split is toowide and the ball's on the right hash.
I mean, nobody can make thatthrow, right, I mean,
Brett Favre, I mean, who'sJosh Allen. No, nobody can smoke
that ball. It's too little aspace. So he knows he doesn't have
to worry about a night bride cameround. So he jumps to the inside
and he just starts, you know, just he just undercuts the post and
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and DK is is just in hismind going, well, there's no damn
way that he's throwing it to mehere now, not with this, I
mean, you know, just theway the corner played it. And so
he backed off the gas and andso yeah, there's some fault on DK.
You say, ideally, no matterhow well you're you're covered, just
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keep running through. But but Gino'sgot to see that. I mean,
i mean, first of all,as I said, just the thought processes,
Well, let me try here andhave my head on the right side.
Now come back laid in the downand see if I can pick up
a post as a checkdown. Thatthat's not how it just doesn't happen.
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Yeah, that's not how quarterbacks aretaught. That's not how you play the
position. And and then so forfor Metcalfs, you know, maybe it
was a sign of frustration he gaveup on the route, but he just
had to know, well, I'mout here at this point, it's late
in the down. This guy hasjumped inside of me. Maybe he processed
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why he jumped inside. Maybe hedidn't. You know, I have the
I'm of looking at the all twentytwo and saying what now, why the
hell did he do that? Andand you know it's pretty it's very obvious
to me. But yeah, sometcalf Look, anytime a guy quote unquote
quits on a play, stops running, there's also always some culpability. There's
always like, if you're in thereceiver room, you just say, hey,
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look, you just got to keeprunning through it. You can't,
you can't, you can't. Ifwe're playing the blame game, it's it's
eighty plus percent on gino. Yeah, yeah, I'd say that's fair.
I mean you can't absolve DK onthat, but the line share of the
of the blame the minuses. You'rehitting the minus and you're not. It's
not holding down, it's not stuck. It's just a couple through, is
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what it is. All Right,we got a rock and roll. We
gotta get out of here. You'rethe best. Thank you so much,
man, Love you. I lovehaving you on every Monday. You know
that A mission the last couple ofweeks and we'll talk always right back at
you travel. Let's let's talk toyou next week after a win over Arizona.
That's you, mal in hardcore football. We got locker room reaction,
guys. I caught up with herein Cincinnati. Coming up next, ninety
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you by Snowball Me Casinos. Allright, welcome back in sports for ninety
three point three kJ R FM,The in Forness with you on the road
again. I was gonna sing,Jess, but nobody wants to hear that
right now. On the road again. No, no, no, everybody.
Yeah, bummer of a loss yesterdayand for you and I just a
crap weekend of football, like ifwe're being honest, it's not day.
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No. No, we'll get tothe Koogs tomorrow. We talked to MK
and Alex and that will be athat will be an interesting day, okay,
but we'll get to that tomorrow.Today it's about the Seahawks, and
yeah, that wasn't funny either,although I'll tell you what really fun football
game, like an entertaining football game. I'm not sure how it translated at
home, but entertaining, fun footballgame and one of those games that the
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Seahawks always win, like they winthose games they come from like you get
a ball late. And they hada chance, not once but twice late
to win the game, which iscrazy, and it didn't happen. But
you know, frustrating the three andtwo. But there's still you know,
you look at what happened to therest of the NFC, the rest of
the NFL, there's still very muchin it. And I think they've proven
so far that they're pretty good footballteam. They just haven't put it together
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yet, don't have a healthy offensiveline. But man, jess, how
about that secondary once they settled in, Oh what a day for the secondary.
So we got some sound here foryou, including a guy that all
he does is make plays. Likeeveryone's talking about Witherspoon and rightfully so everyone's
talking about, you know, Jamalbeing back and requel. And how about
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our friend Trey Brown. I caughtup with him after the game. He
had a huge interception and played anotherstrong game at corner for the Seahawks.
Trey Brown big interception this game.You guys, defensively, once those first
two possessions are over, you reallyshut down. Joe Brow did a nice
job. What kind of changed thatfor you? I mean, we just
had that never quit attitude. Youknow. We knew that we started kind
of rough, but that wasn't whowe was. So we just had to
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go out there and settle down andjust play our game and everything started to
fall in place. Frustrating though,I know, you get the ball back
to the offense and you kind offeel like, well, here they go,
they're going to break through get theHow how frustrating was it to be
that close to see your team thatclose to getting that win. I mean
it's always it's always frustrating, youknow, to be so close, you
know, but uh, but atthe end of the day, you know,
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we got to have each other's backcollectively as a group, and we're
going to continue to get better.You know, as the weeks go by,
you know, we go back tothe drawing boards, you know,
I figure out, you know,what's the difference one a lot of mines.
You guys show as a secondary whatyou're all about today against maybe the
best trio of wide receivers and arguablyone of the top two or three quarterbacks
in the league. Uh yeah,of course. And you know we're still
growing. You know, we haven'teven fully found our niche yet. You
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know, we're still we're still tryingto figure everything out. You know,
we had a lot of guys youknow, themed up, you know from
the beginning of the year, youknow, and everybody's just trying to come
collectively as a group, and uhwe still we still haven't scratched the surface
for what we can do. Isit frustrating to know that it was just
like that close to there's no fingerpointing in football, I know that,
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but like one side of the footballreally does this job and the other one
kind of struggled mightily against them.I mean, like I said before,
you know what I'm saying, it'sit's really is it's frustrating, you know,
but like a dam of the day, we said it, you can't.
We can't point the we can't pointthe finger. Like I said,
we got each other's back and that'swhat we're gonna continue to do. Wrap
it up with this, Trey,I mean, this team kind of showed
what they're all about the last fewweeks with those three wins. You battled
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through so many injuries. It feelslike the best is still yet to come
for this football team. There's alot of upside just spite the frustration today,
of course, And that's the goodthing about it, you know what
I mean. We we didn't playour game, our best game today,
yet we were so close. Youknow, we started off slow as a
defense, you know, got tofigure everything out, you know, and
the same goes for you know,other side, but we're really close.
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You R and D. Thanks forcoming out, appreciate after lost. Thank
you sir, Thank you all right, Trey Brown, Let's let's continue.
Let's stay jess with the dB theme, shall we. I am that I
just I think this guy is oneof the sometimes guys get hyped up and
you know, you wonder is ityou know, is it real or not
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or what have you. Everyone acrossthe NFL is talking about Devin Witherspoon,
and rightfully so. The pick sixon Monday Night football. This was going
to be a big test against theCincinnati team with all that star power,
all those dudes. Devin Witherspoon playedagain just at a high level. Man,
is he fun to watch right now? I think sometimes you know,
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you think, Okay, is therea little too much hype? You know,
is this guy going to live upto that hype? This dude flat
out is four tackles yesterday, threepass defended as well, just made an
impact again and obviously disappointing after thegame because the defense held up but the
offense really struggled. But I caughtup with Devin Witherspoon in the locker room.
I know, frustrating loss, butgoing out there against that group performing
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like your secondary did. I mean, is there any solace in the fact
that you guys kind of stepped upso big against that group. Now,
I don't think he's like that.I just feel like he is more coming
together, more in I chemistry,starting to cleage more games he played together.
So I read just think is that, like I said, a lot
of us haven't really played together forreal, so when we all was out
there, it's our first game kindof really back together as a group.
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I think we played pretty well,So I just fly. The more we
play, the more we can click, the more confidence and the more chemistry
we're gonna build. Your position's gotto be all about confidence. When you're
playing next to Trey and Devin allthese guys from there and read and stuff.
How good can this secondary be?I don't place no limits on this.
I just feel like it could be. It can be greatest we want
it to be. And like Isaid, the more games just play,
(31:30):
the more chemistry we build. There'sthere's no ceiling for us. So I'm
just waiting further into the season andthe more we build our chemistry, the
more the more better we're gonna play. So described just the end there frustration.
I mean, see your offense isdown there in the five. You
gotta feel like it's gonna be awin. Man. That's one of those
that's a that's a sucker punch ofthe gut, isn't it. Yeah.
It's tough, tough loss, butwe gave up a couple of early penalties
early in the game, and that'show we gave up our two touchdown scores
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on defense. So really, ifwe negate that, I probably be another
ball game. So I really justsay defense, we got to just be
better to win the pendies. Yeah, we could put office in a better
position. And that's the key.No no finger pointing offense. Defense right
now, it's never one I dayis always a team games. So there
you go. That's the locker room. It wasn't as solemn, and it
wasn't as you know, kind ofdowntrodden as sometimes you get up losing locker
(32:15):
room, which I think tells youa lot about how they feel about this
football team. I think they knowthere's a lot of promise and a lot
more good to come Arizona in townthis coming Sunday, Uh for a game
at one o'clock at Loomin Field.Will take a break, come back,
Jess and Anders will get a holdof I think Mike Benton mistaken. Yeah,
I got a little cracking for ourdaily power play. Their home opener
is coming up tomorrow and they needto get speaking of an offense, it
(32:37):
needs to get going. My God, misery loves company. Huh seayak offense,
struggling, cracking offense cut two goalsin three games. Mike Benton Daily
power Play coming up next, MalkinStreet's wanted on Goldiples and I stop It's
crasby stop. This is the dailypower Play. Deep timer mckenneth now i
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Son Sports Radio ninety three point three. Way been wait for o k j
R FM. Obviously, he playsan important role on this team, whether
that be on the p K orat five on five, So we're gonna
have to step up in his absenceand and try and try and fill his
role here a little bit. Ifeel like the more we play with each
other, the more we'll get usedto each other playing and and where we
(33:30):
are in different spots on the ice. But you know, I think just
trying to play my role and andplay the best of my abilities, whether
that be trying to get energy shiftor we're trying to put the puck in
the net, whatever it may be, just just trying to help out the
team. One. Welcome back tothe Ian Furness Show, Jessamin McIntyre.
Here, Andershurst is on the onesand twos in the control room, and
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we have the one and only MikeBenton here with us to fill us in
for the daily power play. Weall got lucky today. Em will be
back with us shortly. But thatwas the voice of Ty Cartier you heard
there after the Krakens two to oneshootout loss. Now, well they started
zero to three. I'm the queenof its early, you know when it
comes to long seasons. But itfeels like just getting a little bit closer.
(34:15):
They made it to a shootout andonly lost by a goal. How
would you assess this team as itstands right now? Mike bettan Well,
I was asked this question from thescale of zero to ten and ten being
sound the alarms of panic button everything. It really is about a zero point
five right now. Three games lastweek is early. Last week, Yeah,
it really is early. I meanlast week was three games. The
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first out of eating two that wasbasically a five layer dip of what could
have been The Krakens said they lefta lot on the table. I mean
that first game against Vegas, they'rerolling. The second game Nashville. Yeah,
they could have won that game.They maybe should have won that game,
but things fell apart in the secondperiod, and that led to a
response where Dave Axtall from many accounts, but a pretty intense practice Friday in
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Saint Louis. So we're no longerout for a Sunday Skater Sunday Drive Saint
Louis. That team's gonna miss thepostseason. But you can sense things begin
to turn around in that game.Soada Kraken Skate. They had control and
they finally got a goal on theboard for their special teams and Joey to
Cord was great and nets. Soright now, I mean, yeah,
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it's like the old phrase from anold NHL executive, I'm not paying you
to get scoring chances. I'm payingyou to score goals. They only have
two and three games. That's scant. But this is only three games,
and let's talk more if this continuesabout a couple of weeks in Yeah,
what are you expecting the home opener? We got that tomorrow night, seven
o'clock. You'll be on the yearhere on ninety three point three KJR FM
(35:44):
at starting at six thirty. Wegot an extended post game tomorrow night.
All though Mike Benton's in the world. What are you expecting as they come
home? Do you think that'll givethem a lift? I think home ice
is gonna be the obvious big lift. That's the first thing. I think
it's just because there hasn't been ameaningful game of full meetings since Game six
against Dallas. But I mean,let's just look at reality here. Colorado's
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going to come in the Kraken bouncedthem first round of the playoffs last year.
They're going to be an angry teamCarolina. I mean, they laiden
Egg and Anaheim last night. ButRod Brendanmore coaches that team so well,
they're gonna be a machine. That'sa frightening opponent right there. And then
you had the New York Rangers alsocoming up to end this whole thing with
three games. So I mean itis early, but there is little margin
(36:30):
for air here. So that firstperiod, especially tomorrow night, first ten
minutes, I think it's going tomean a whole lot. Okay, so
we have never really seen this team, at least in the last year,
still gonna score as much. What'sbeen the main difference I think from this
year early on and how I compareit to last year. Anders I think,
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if they find a way to turnthings around and I kind of look,
you know, into the future here, what that tells me is that
this is a team that plays suchan intro. Kit's system was so much
detailed that it takes a while forthem to really get going and get past
the whole mistake period. They onlyhad one win first five games last year,
but then they got passed at firstfive games and we all saw what
(37:13):
happened next year. So these nextfew games are going to be tell tale
to me as far as how muchthey're linked up with execution. The personnel
is still there. The only bigguy they miss is Daniel Sproung twenty one
goals. So I believe Borukovski willbe there. I believe Tolbden will be
there, McCann will be there.Benier's goal scorers are streaky and they're going
through a bit of a dry spellright now, but the expectation is that
(37:36):
it's going to end here pretty soon. Any little queak or twerks or like
tweaks and quirks is kind of whatI was looking for. Hopefully any like
line changes or anything going in tomorrownight. As of right now, if
we can look at from today,I wouldn't be surprised to see Oliver b
York stray and and Andre Berikowski flip, and so David axtells is trying to
(38:00):
get something going. He's trying tosee if something else works with Berukovsky,
especially the orch Strand, because theirpotential says right now twenty five goals,
maybe even thirty at their peak,but of course they're part of that dry
spell right now. Burakowsky thing tome is that it's not a physical thing.
He hadn't played hockey in about eightmonths. But it's a timing thing.
It's like a hitter in baseball whereyou take five days off and he
(38:22):
looks like a one to fifty hitterall of a sudden, it takes a
while to get back up to speed. And the same goes here for Berukovsky
when it comes to the You knowDave Haxtall, I mean, he's a
pretty stoic person. You have amore inside the locker room look at things.
How do you think he's handling theteam right now? Oh, he's
handling it just fine. I mean, if there's one advantage that this team's
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got, it's their leadership, andbecause there was little turnover from last season,
that's the advantage they have. WhereI think really psychologically everyone's on the
same page. But when you stepaway from playing hockey for about five months,
you're going to come up with mistakeshere in this system. And sometimes
guys just may be getting a littlebit tense. As far as you know,
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I should be scoring goals. I'mnot scoring goals. Why am I
not scoring goals? But I mean, I think he was Yonni Gord after
the national game of the Saint Louisgame. So we just got to relax
here. And so that's where thatleadership begins to filter down from the veteran
guys, where they say, guys, it's early, don't pan it.
It's so easy to overreact. Ifor the first week. I mean,
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I heard one person say in NewYork that Adam Fox is grossly over rat
and I go, my goodness,Adam Fox grossly over ray. Are you
talking about overreaction there? That isNew York media. It's very very early.
Well, thank you Mike benon theDaily power Play. Thank you for
being in studio. It's lovely tosee you again. Always love it when
you come around. Remember again thecrack and hit the ice. Seven o'clock
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tomorrow night. Get there if youcan. Six thirty pre game with the
one and only Betton, who's sittingright here. Coming up next, Thank
you sir. Coming up next weekwill be joined by Mike Sando, who
has got an eye on all thingsSeahawks and around the NFL. That's next
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it was a loss. My friend, how are you today? I'm doing
well from Saturday. Yeah, ThisDaywas a little bit of a letdown,
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but you know, I think somewhatpredictable Ian because the psychological advantages probably favored
the Bengals here. They had finallygot on track, I think in their
prior week after having really stumbled outof the gate, and I think Seattle
riding a win streak, there wasn'ta sense of desperation for them. So
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I think the Bengals playing at homein more of a must win situation and
feeling good about themselves, that there'sprobably advantage that ended up playing out,
all right, So Hugh, letme start right with it, actually the
second to last drive, because boy, it felt very eerily similar to the
last two drives for Seattle, stallinginside the red zone. Let me start
there because he had a lot ofa great chance to take a lead there,
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you know, once again, afteryou know, after the defense gets
a stop first and ten and theball is at the Seattle thirty six yard
line and there's six minutes and seventeenseconds left, they start with a ken
Walker run off right guard for fouryards. I little start and away they
go. And then and a bigplay after that with Gino Smith. But
let's let's walk through what we sawin that drive. Yeah, well,
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I think the critical part was leadingup to the first and goal at a
seven. There was a third downthere where they hit DK on a slant,
and from a hardcore perspective, ifyou're playing the Bengals, that corner
on DK just what's called press bail. He just bailed out of their way
too deep for a third down,and so you get an easy slant completion
down to the seven, setting upfirst and goal at the seven. That
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was a third and seven ball atthe sixteen. Yeah, they got that
quick boot a huge and that wasa huge play. I mean, because
we were discussing in the press box, like do you kick the field goal
here? Probably right, you know, to pull within one point. But
he got the first down and thennow you're sitting there, as you said,
first and goal at the seven atthe Cincinnati seven yard line, and
then it went south quick Well,this was a really bad play for Seattle.
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They'd call a fade route to Gino'sleft to DK. Now, the
corner was really aggressive at the lineof scrimmage, so when Gino looked over
there, DK was getting jammed andand just a second later he came open,
and so you would coach Geno,it's just like, look, if
you see that aggressive of a jam, you know he's got a chance to
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break free, and it would havebeen a relatively easy touchdown in the back
of the end zone to DK.If not, then in your vision is
you got K nine just sitting rightthere in the alley. It's right in
your field of vision. Just dumpit to your left. He chose to
do the lway spin and take atwelve yard loss on first and goal at
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the seven. Yeah, take ona quick game, on a quick game
call where the ball is supposed tocome out, to lose twelve yards is
just almost unforgivable. So he goesthere and by the way I mean that,
Yeah, I think that was justkind of one of those big head
scratching moves. Geno Van goes onsecond and nineteen and he's incomplete down the
middle. There's pressure there too,right, Yeah, that was empty formation
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and it's a single safety. Hehad a chance. Look, look,
all pro level, pro bowl levelthrow would have been he had Jackson Smith
and Jigma on a scene. Now, it would have been a tight throw,
But there was an opportunity for atouchdown there, but then he's got
in front of him, he's gottena fan for a checkdown type of completion,
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and he just he just doesn't seeit and he ends up checking the
ball down late, essentially like adump. So that's an incompletion. Then
third and nineteen, which is thirdand goal from the nineteen Gino got.
He hit Jackson Smith and Jigba forthirteen yard game kind of put him back
into the you know, back intothe conversation to go for it. Yeah,
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they get the double slant and onboth sides mirrored mirrored double slants,
and so that sets up the fourthand sixth and and on that They have
a concept where they're going to getFan on a corner route and they're going
to try and get dk on andand Tyler on a little combination out there,
manned outside the Bengals zoned inside thefree safety he's supposed to be in
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the middle field, he pushes tothat three receiver side to help on the
corner route with Van. Structurally,if we're talking about this on a whiteboard,
then you'd say, Okay, thesingle side receiver should have that post
because the free safety has vacated themiddlefield. That was Parkinson, but the
corner just jumped inside. You couldalmost say it was a legal contact,
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But it was almost as if theBengals knew the play call a really good
job of them ding up in thered zone. Is there anything on that
fourth and sixth as you described thatthat Gino could have done differently or better
besides taking a fact for eight yards, Well, I think that. I
think it was just a box ofcoat hangers over on the left side,
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you know, I just credit therewas other times. There was other times
I studied the hell out of MichaelPennis, and there was a fourth down
going towards the lake where he threwto a not a second but a third
string slot receiver on a fourth downon a little choice route, and he
threw with remarkable anticipation. And thenI'm looking at at Gino, a Sunday
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player, and he's not willing toturn the ball loose there week. I've
got a whole list of plays underthe heading of Geno conservative where he just
wasn't pulling the triggers. So Ithink if I were to just say on
that play there was nothing, Ithink that might If that's all I said
disclosed to you. That would notindicate my opinion about how Gino played on
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that play. However, Yeah,not much and he gets sacked. That
was one of those plays you thatmaybe sometimes the other team does a nice
job, right, like too,Yeah, they they schemed it up and
did a nice job. I wantto jump ahead because I think, you
know, as we're looking through this, then Seattle gets the ball back,
you know, the Bengal I mean, I kind of feel like, God,
that's that might be brutal because there'stwo l eight left to go.
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He's sacked first and ten for Cincinnatiat their own fourteen yard line. Incomplete
pass to Chase Mixing goes for fourand then incomplete to Higgins and there was
actually a penalty on Higgins at play. Trey Brown was right with him and
Higgins pushed off. They decline itQ. Seattle gets the ball back one
thirty nine left to go, downby four and the ball of their own
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forty yard line, and we're thinking, hey, here we go, let's
get this thing done. Yeah,And the first play there they get a
sting route down the middle with thekey play. I should say that a
sting route is where you lean onthe corner in a cover two defense where
there's a hole in the middle betweenthose two safeties, and Tyler Locket he
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faked the corner like he's going tosideline. Went back to the post.
Beautiful call, beautiful execution, andyou feel like, wow, maybe we
got something. Thirty six yard passplay and god, Hugh, just for
a second, who else would youthrow it too? Then sixteen? Huh,
Like it's just it's I mean,this guy just makes play sometimes and
you get down. So now it'sit's first and ten at the Cincinnati eleven
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yard line, fifty five seconds left. You've got a time out in your
pocket. Go time, que gotime. What happened on that first and
ten play? He was incomplete?Yeah, so they call a fade route
again to DK to his left.Now and the time before where I said,
hey, in the series before DKcame open and there was an opportunity
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for a touchdown, it had beenpress, aggressive press. Now the corner
on that side he's playing off.There's kind of a safety shaded over there
a little bit, so the cornerhas helped to the slant so the corner
can play the fade. So there'snothing there and and Gino just hangs on
that. It was almost as ifhe had been told, look, just
hang on the fade a little bitmore, but that was a different look.
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Yeah, So now he's like overcoach to focus on DK. When
he had what's called why stick combination, a three man concept to his right
with doublet outs by the innermost andmiddle of three and then Tyler to clear
out, he had an opportunity tohis right to hit one of those those
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stick routes, and and he wasjust kind of hung up on the left
side. So so he was hungup when he shouldn't have been on the
fade route to DK, when theprior series he should have been more hung
up on the fade route to DK. Right. It's just kind of one
of those days. But you gotto see the picture if you're Gino to
know why you have the opportunity withone fade route and you don't with the
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other. All right, So thenwe two yard run by ken Walker gets
you to second and or sorry,third and eight from the Cincinnati nine yard
line. Cincinnati takes a time out, Seattle takes the time out, so
everyone's kind of getting their ducks ina row. H third and eight ballgame
not quite on the line, butthird and eight from the Cincinnati nine and
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Gino throws incomplete short middle. Thedk MEX just really question this concept that
they they're running into the boundary ballson the left hash. They had already
cut the fourth down play that Ihad. Remember I said, yeah,
uh fan on a corner route thatthere's a it's it's kind of like a
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double fin corner. Uh. Imean that's football parlance. But what I
had described in the prior fourth downplay. Now they're running a similar look
to that, and and yet they'redoing it into the short side. Uh
uh uh. It's trips left andthe balls on the left hash. So
the spacing, even by alignment,everything was just too tight. And so
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that's generally a wide to the fieldconcept unless you're getting some some real uh
let's say, guaranteed roll to thefield. You know. It's just that
that I'm questioning Shane Waldron on theconcept of why you would run that so
tightly packed into the boundary because there'sno room. There's just no room to
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make a play, is what you'retelling you got you got five defenders,
three receivers all I mean, youknow, you know, not only would
one grenade kill eight guys, youknow one one eight would kill eight guys.
I mean, they're just it's likeeverybody's in a phone book, you
know, its just space. Usea human can I use a humil in
term? It feels like what wasit again? A box full of coat
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hangers? But but you know whatI think people, I think that you
can relate to that. I thinkpeople can relate to that. Okay,
So so that's a so okay,all that goes away fourth and eight,
Cincinnati nine yard line. This isfor the ball game. You've got to
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make a play here. Walk usthrough what ended up being. He wasn't
sacked, but he got smoked onthe play by by Hill. All kinds
of pressure came up on that fourthand eight from the Cincinnati nine, and
that was the ball game. Yeah. Well they're trying to get DK on
a little uh a read in themiddle stutter and then go through the scene.
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But the safety's just read it perfectly. They're just really wasn't much on
the play yet. Parkinson on what'scalled a corner stop, but he was
to Gino's left. He was tightlycovered. I look, I got I
got to give credit where it's due. I mean, you've got this defensive
coordinator. Remember when the Bengals Amonoloor somebody when they went to the Super
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Bowl. He was just on fireall through the playoffs. And so this
is a really competent dude in termsof his play calling and his scheming,
and they were just air tight andand you know, and looking at what
Seattle had, I I described youthe concept. It's it's uh, it's
it's trying to get DK through themiddle. And then you've got what's called
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corner stop routes mirrored by Parkinson andand Tyler on on the left and right,
respectively. Everybody's covered. And andthis was the time where Gina was
just overwhelmed early in the down withthe uh. Finally, what I was
concerned, what you were concerned,what we were all concerned about what would
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happen in Detroit. Based on whatwe had seen in the fourth quarter of
the RAM game with the backup offensiveline, we thought it was just gonna
just grind to a dead halt,right, And so there was a number
of times there, you know,in that fourth quarter where where Gino had
some opportunities but not much and thenon this one. He really didn't have
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much and there wasn't anything, youknow, the combination of the even if
there had been good protection. Ithink that Cincinnati playing this uh this matchup
zone in the in the end zonewas just they were just on it.
Let me let me get two morethings in for you before we let you
go today, and I'll start withthis one. The two interceptions for Gino,
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because they were very different in howthey looked. One was in the
re zone, you know, atthe goal line with you know, Jackson
Smith and Jigba against like it feltlike the entire Cincinnati defense. And I
would dare say, Hugh, inthe quarterback room of any quarterback room of
any football team at any level inthe country, I'm guessing a red zone,
goal line inside the ten yard lineinterception is probably at the top of
(15:20):
the list of do not do right. It's probably like, it's probably the
most egregious sin you can have.Let's start with that one and go from
there, just to what happened onthat interception that he was looking for Jackson
Smith and Jinga. Okay, sothey're trying to play like a special play
a special is kind of like Okay, you're only gonna do it once in
a game. You got Jackson Smithin Jigba in the backfield, he motions
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and he's going to run a wheelroute. Now, Cincinnati was in a
three deep four under zone. I'veI've likened many times to like that particular
zone coverage to like an outfield inan infield right yep. And and so
what's called the curl flat player oneither side is like the first baseman and
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the third baseman. They're they're thewidest guys of the four underneath and there
and and when you see like ona defensive play playbook, a lot of
times you'll just see c slash fokay for curl flat. You're playing the
curl which is is uh like atwelve to fifteen yard just stop route and
then you play that first and thento anybody in the flat right. But
(16:30):
a lot of times people also putCFW curl flat wheel. So the guy
on and that's just the first basement. And from Geno's perspective, that's a
that's Mike Hilton. That's like oneof the top nickel guys in all of
the NFL. I mean, heis sensational and and you're trying to do
a wheel on him with a I'mgonna say a rookie wide receiver doesn't matter
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because that would imply that the rookiedidn't do something right. That's just a
really good curl. And then wheelplayer, he's got to carry the wheel
and so he does and is sohe's so on top of the route and
it was so easy, a cleanlook for Gino. It's almost like he
predetermined, like I'm going for thisand and and if you're Shane Waldon,
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the frustration and Pete Carroll is thatpart of the concept is like, hey,
if you don't have the wheel,We've got this cool concept that I
don't see often that Shane Waldron does, where they got a canin on a
swing route to the same side ofthe field, but they've got a tight
end leading almost he's running a swingroute too. It says in essence,
like a little mini screen, likethe tight end is gonna block for the
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dude, so you throw it tocanine. So so unless it's bright green
and you need a field goal there, right, unless the light is bright
green on that wheel, you justyou just throw it to canine on the
swing to the same side your eyesdon't have to go across the field,
and and he just he had allof a sudden a guy that predetermined just
really bad critical air. Hugh.I guess as I'm listening to that,
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because when we talked about the redzone problems on those final two drives a
couple of times, Cincinnati dialed itup perfectly a couple of times. You
know, there was a question aboutthe play calling and the concepts, the
concepts specifically from Shane Waldron with fieldposition, ball placement, et cetera.
On the hash mark this was onGino. That that interception one hundred percent
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on Gino because Waldron's play designed,his concept had him opportunities to still make
a play if Jackson Smith and Jigbawas covered. Is what you're telling me,
one hundred percent? Yeah, No, This is kind of like,
hey, uh, the sun comesup, the rooster crows, you eat
breakfast, like there's a sequence.This is how this is how you do
it. Yep. And this wouldbe something that you would tell high school
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I mean, I've hoped, I'vecoached high school quarterbacks. Yeah, I
mean, I'd have my palm tomy forehead if a high school kid did
that. So that that was somethinghe had to see and he didn't.
It's just look every even the bestquarterbacks, at some point you know they're
going to make a play that justdefies even explanation, and this was one
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of those plays for Geno. Phew, I got another huism for you.
That was a that was a doubleminus, and I might add two more
minuses to that play as you describedit, Bud. Okay, we've been
doing this for a long time andnothing, nothing puts more of a chuckle
in my in my day than hearingthe double minus. That's a double minus
times too, is what you're tellingme right now. Sometimes when you push
the minus on the keyboard that itgets stuck and it's just like this series
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of minuses. At some point youjust go, Okay, I think that's
enough, press center, and thenthere's like forty seven minuses. Oh I
love it. I love it allright, I got time for one more.
Just what happened on the other interception. It looked like DK maybe stop
broke off the route. That's that'swhy we have you here to explain what
happened on that interception. Okay,So first of all, I want to
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say, DK, you could makea long highlight tape of DK with the
highest amount of efforts on plays thathe knows he's there's a very rare chance
he's getting the ball. I mean, this guy almost always is is running
like he's running one hundred meter dashin the Olympics. I think they let
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me stop here. I think that'simportant because what fans see is DK making
a big play or making a bigcatch, or running guys over or the
other side, DK shoving a dBlate, getting pissed off, throwing a
tantrum. I think it. Youknow, I'm not. I find myself
probably defending him a lot on theradio or even on TV and stuff.
But I think that's an important conceptbecause when Hugh Millan watches a tape,
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you're watching it all twenty two,you see the entire field. You're telling
me if he's he's not even optionthree, he's still going, you know
what, to the wall. AndI think that's an important part because I
think there's people think he just kindof loafs out there and does stuff like
that. I think that's an importantthing that you just mentioned. Oh no,
you don't evaluate a receiver just onballs that are thrown to him.
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You know, because you evaluate whetherhe's gating open and whether the quarterback is
turning him down, and then youalso evaluate him. There's times, look
virtually every scheme that I see onthat I know exactly how it's taught in
the film room. And and DKat this juncture of his career, he
knows when he's not getting the ballright, and yet you still want to
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have him sprinting to clear out defendersand to influence defenders, and he gets
You know, if I guess aplus would be a guy who did it
all the time, I've never seena guy who does it all the time.
I mean he's he's ninety nine pointnine percent. I mean, he's
really good at that. And hehad a number of plays where before where
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they're calling shots on him. Iremember I said there was a list of
geno conservatives. They're calling shots.Uh you know, you know, for
example, a double post, you'relooking for quarters coverage, they get quarters
coverage. That's a safety that's goingto ride inside on Tyler's uhh. And
you got one on one with DK. He's running the posts, he's not
getting the ball. High corner routesagainst cover two, play action, max
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protection he's not getting the ball,and and so on this play, what
happened The ball is on the righthash and they run. I call it
Aztek. You've got you've got Tyleron a corner route to Gino's right,
and then you've got Fan in theflat. He looks to that side.
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Gino looks to that side. Andthen for your vision, you've got Jackson
Smith and Jigma who lined up onthe left. He's running a shallow cross.
So that all a lot of thisconcept is designed so your eyes can
flow. Hey, if you picka side and you go to the right,
you're going, hey, uh,Tyler on the corner then, and
(22:48):
all that's to your right, andthen coming into your vision here comes into
your vision from left to right isJackson Smith and Jigma. You don't throw
a post route as a checkdown.And what he did Gino is he he
went back and he he looked tohis right and then he decided, well,
let me throw a post as acheckdown. That No, you throw
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the shallow cross right in front ofyou to Jackson Smith as a checkdown.
And what had happened there is thecorner because he had a plus split.
That's DK He's four or five yardsfrom the sideline. He's as wide from
the ball as he could possibly be. He's getting press covered. So when
he takes an inside release, thecorner knows that there's no threat of an
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outbreaking route because DK's split is toowide and the ball's on the right hash.
I mean, nobody can make thatthrow, right, I mean,
Brett Favre, I mean, who'sJosh Allen. No, nobody can smoke
that ball. It's too little aspace. So he knows he doesn't have
to worry about a night bride cameround. So he jumps to the inside
and he just starts, you know, just he just undercuts the post and
(23:55):
and DK is is just in hismind going, well, there's no damn
way that he's throwing it to mehere now, not with this, I
mean, you know, just theway the corner played it. And so
he backed off the gas and andso yeah, there's some fault on DK.
You say, ideally, no matterhow well you're you're covered, just
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keep running through. But but Gino'sgot to see that. I mean,
i mean, first of all,as I said, just the thought processes,
Well, let me try here andhave my head on the right side.
Now come back laid in the downand see if I can pick up
a post as a checkdown. Thatthat's not how it just doesn't happen.
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Yeah, that's not how quarterbacks aretaught. That's not how you play the
position. And and then so forfor Metcalfs, you know, maybe it
was a sign of frustration he gaveup on the route, but he just
had to know, well, I'mout here at this point, it's late
in the down. This guy hasjumped inside of me. Maybe he processed
(24:56):
why he jumped inside. Maybe hedidn't. You know, I have the
I'm of looking at the all twentytwo and saying what now, why the
hell did he do that? Andand you know it's pretty it's very obvious
to me. But yeah, sometcalf Look, anytime a guy quote unquote
quits on a play, stops running, there's also always some culpability. There's
always like, if you're in thereceiver room, you just say, hey,
(25:18):
look, you just got to keeprunning through it. You can't,
you can't, you can't. Ifwe're playing the blame game, it's it's
eighty plus percent on gino. Yeah, yeah, I'd say that's fair.
I mean you can't absolve DK onthat, but the line share of the
of the blame the minuses. You'rehitting the minus and you're not. It's
not holding down, it's not stuck. It's just a couple through, is
(25:41):
what it is. All Right,we got a rock and roll. We
gotta get out of here. You'rethe best. Thank you so much,
man, Love you. I lovehaving you on every Monday. You know
that A mission the last couple ofweeks and we'll talk always right back at
you travel. Let's let's talk toyou next week after a win over Arizona.
That's you, mal in hardcore football. We got locker room reaction,
guys. I caught up with herein Cincinnati. Coming up next, ninety
three point three KTER FM. Nowback to the Infnest Show, brought to
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you by Snowball Me Casinos. Allright, welcome back in sports for ninety
three point three kJ R FM,The in Forness with you on the road
again. I was gonna sing,Jess, but nobody wants to hear that
right now. On the road again. No, no, no, everybody.
Yeah, bummer of a loss yesterdayand for you and I just a
crap weekend of football, like ifwe're being honest, it's not day.
(26:32):
No. No, we'll get tothe Koogs tomorrow. We talked to MK
and Alex and that will be athat will be an interesting day, okay,
but we'll get to that tomorrow.Today it's about the Seahawks, and
yeah, that wasn't funny either,although I'll tell you what really fun football
game, like an entertaining football game. I'm not sure how it translated at
home, but entertaining, fun footballgame and one of those games that the
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Seahawks always win, like they winthose games they come from like you get
a ball late. And they hada chance, not once but twice late
to win the game, which iscrazy, and it didn't happen. But
you know, frustrating the three andtwo. But there's still you know,
you look at what happened to therest of the NFC, the rest of
the NFL, there's still very muchin it. And I think they've proven
so far that they're pretty good footballteam. They just haven't put it together
(27:15):
yet, don't have a healthy offensiveline. But man, jess, how
about that secondary once they settled in, Oh what a day for the secondary.
So we got some sound here foryou, including a guy that all
he does is make plays. Likeeveryone's talking about Witherspoon and rightfully so everyone's
talking about, you know, Jamalbeing back and requel. And how about
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our friend Trey Brown. I caughtup with him after the game. He
had a huge interception and played anotherstrong game at corner for the Seahawks.
Trey Brown big interception this game.You guys, defensively, once those first
two possessions are over, you reallyshut down. Joe Brow did a nice
job. What kind of changed thatfor you? I mean, we just
had that never quit attitude. Youknow. We knew that we started kind
of rough, but that wasn't whowe was. So we just had to
(27:57):
go out there and settle down andjust play our game and everything started to
fall in place. Frustrating though,I know, you get the ball back
to the offense and you kind offeel like, well, here they go,
they're going to break through get theHow how frustrating was it to be
that close to see your team thatclose to getting that win. I mean
it's always it's always frustrating, youknow, to be so close, you
know, but uh, but atthe end of the day, you know,
(28:17):
we got to have each other's backcollectively as a group, and we're
going to continue to get better.You know, as the weeks go by,
you know, we go back tothe drawing boards, you know,
I figure out, you know,what's the difference one a lot of mines.
You guys show as a secondary whatyou're all about today against maybe the
best trio of wide receivers and arguablyone of the top two or three quarterbacks
in the league. Uh yeah,of course. And you know we're still
growing. You know, we haven'teven fully found our niche yet. You
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know, we're still we're still tryingto figure everything out. You know,
we had a lot of guys youknow, themed up, you know from
the beginning of the year, youknow, and everybody's just trying to come
collectively as a group, and uhwe still we still haven't scratched the surface
for what we can do. Isit frustrating to know that it was just
like that close to there's no fingerpointing in football, I know that,
(28:59):
but like one side of the footballreally does this job and the other one
kind of struggled mightily against them.I mean, like I said before,
you know what I'm saying, it'sit's really is it's frustrating, you know,
but like a dam of the day, we said it, you can't.
We can't point the we can't pointthe finger. Like I said,
we got each other's back and that'swhat we're gonna continue to do. Wrap
it up with this, Trey,I mean, this team kind of showed
what they're all about the last fewweeks with those three wins. You battled
(29:22):
through so many injuries. It feelslike the best is still yet to come
for this football team. There's alot of upside just spite the frustration today,
of course, And that's the goodthing about it, you know what
I mean. We we didn't playour game, our best game today,
yet we were so close. Youknow, we started off slow as a
defense, you know, got tofigure everything out, you know, and
the same goes for you know,other side, but we're really close.
(29:42):
You R and D. Thanks forcoming out, appreciate after lost. Thank
you sir, Thank you all right, Trey Brown, Let's let's continue.
Let's stay jess with the dB theme, shall we. I am that I
just I think this guy is oneof the sometimes guys get hyped up and
you know, you wonder is ityou know, is it real or not
(30:03):
or what have you. Everyone acrossthe NFL is talking about Devin Witherspoon,
and rightfully so. The pick sixon Monday Night football. This was going
to be a big test against theCincinnati team with all that star power,
all those dudes. Devin Witherspoon playedagain just at a high level. Man,
is he fun to watch right now? I think sometimes you know,
(30:23):
you think, Okay, is therea little too much hype? You know,
is this guy going to live upto that hype? This dude flat
out is four tackles yesterday, threepass defended as well, just made an
impact again and obviously disappointing after thegame because the defense held up but the
offense really struggled. But I caughtup with Devin Witherspoon in the locker room.
I know, frustrating loss, butgoing out there against that group performing
(30:47):
like your secondary did. I mean, is there any solace in the fact
that you guys kind of stepped upso big against that group. Now,
I don't think he's like that.I just feel like he is more coming
together, more in I chemistry,starting to cleage more games he played together.
So I read just think is that, like I said, a lot
of us haven't really played together forreal, so when we all was out
there, it's our first game kindof really back together as a group.
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I think we played pretty well,So I just fly. The more we
play, the more we can click, the more confidence and the more chemistry
we're gonna build. Your position's gotto be all about confidence. When you're
playing next to Trey and Devin allthese guys from there and read and stuff.
How good can this secondary be?I don't place no limits on this.
I just feel like it could be. It can be greatest we want
it to be. And like Isaid, the more games just play,
(31:30):
the more chemistry we build. There'sthere's no ceiling for us. So I'm
just waiting further into the season andthe more we build our chemistry, the
more the more better we're gonna play. So described just the end there frustration.
I mean, see your offense isdown there in the five. You
gotta feel like it's gonna be awin. Man. That's one of those
that's a that's a sucker punch ofthe gut, isn't it. Yeah.
It's tough, tough loss, butwe gave up a couple of early penalties
early in the game, and that'show we gave up our two touchdown scores
(31:52):
on defense. So really, ifwe negate that, I probably be another
ball game. So I really justsay defense, we got to just be
better to win the pendies. Yeah, we could put office in a better
position. And that's the key.No no finger pointing offense. Defense right
now, it's never one I dayis always a team games. So there
you go. That's the locker room. It wasn't as solemn, and it
wasn't as you know, kind ofdowntrodden as sometimes you get up losing locker
(32:15):
room, which I think tells youa lot about how they feel about this
football team. I think they knowthere's a lot of promise and a lot
more good to come Arizona in townthis coming Sunday, Uh for a game
at one o'clock at Loomin Field.Will take a break, come back,
Jess and Anders will get a holdof I think Mike Benton mistaken. Yeah,
I got a little cracking for ourdaily power play. Their home opener
is coming up tomorrow and they needto get speaking of an offense, it
(32:37):
needs to get going. My God, misery loves company. Huh seayak offense,
struggling, cracking offense cut two goalsin three games. Mike Benton Daily
power Play coming up next, MalkinStreet's wanted on Goldiples and I stop It's
crasby stop. This is the dailypower Play. Deep timer mckenneth now i
(33:07):
Son Sports Radio ninety three point three. Way been wait for o k j
R FM. Obviously, he playsan important role on this team, whether
that be on the p K orat five on five, So we're gonna
have to step up in his absenceand and try and try and fill his
role here a little bit. Ifeel like the more we play with each
other, the more we'll get usedto each other playing and and where we
(33:30):
are in different spots on the ice. But you know, I think just
trying to play my role and andplay the best of my abilities, whether
that be trying to get energy shiftor we're trying to put the puck in
the net, whatever it may be, just just trying to help out the
team. One. Welcome back tothe Ian Furness Show, Jessamin McIntyre.
Here, Andershurst is on the onesand twos in the control room, and
(33:51):
we have the one and only MikeBenton here with us to fill us in
for the daily power play. Weall got lucky today. Em will be
back with us shortly. But thatwas the voice of Ty Cartier you heard
there after the Krakens two to oneshootout loss. Now, well they started
zero to three. I'm the queenof its early, you know when it
comes to long seasons. But itfeels like just getting a little bit closer.
(34:15):
They made it to a shootout andonly lost by a goal. How
would you assess this team as itstands right now? Mike bettan Well,
I was asked this question from thescale of zero to ten and ten being
sound the alarms of panic button everything. It really is about a zero point
five right now. Three games lastweek is early. Last week, Yeah,
it really is early. I meanlast week was three games. The
(34:37):
first out of eating two that wasbasically a five layer dip of what could
have been The Krakens said they lefta lot on the table. I mean
that first game against Vegas, they'rerolling. The second game Nashville. Yeah,
they could have won that game.They maybe should have won that game,
but things fell apart in the secondperiod, and that led to a
response where Dave Axtall from many accounts, but a pretty intense practice Friday in
(35:01):
Saint Louis. So we're no longerout for a Sunday Skater Sunday Drive Saint
Louis. That team's gonna miss thepostseason. But you can sense things begin
to turn around in that game.Soada Kraken Skate. They had control and
they finally got a goal on theboard for their special teams and Joey to
Cord was great and nets. Soright now, I mean, yeah,
(35:22):
it's like the old phrase from anold NHL executive, I'm not paying you
to get scoring chances. I'm payingyou to score goals. They only have
two and three games. That's scant. But this is only three games,
and let's talk more if this continuesabout a couple of weeks in Yeah,
what are you expecting the home opener? We got that tomorrow night, seven
o'clock. You'll be on the yearhere on ninety three point three KJR FM
(35:44):
at starting at six thirty. Wegot an extended post game tomorrow night.
All though Mike Benton's in the world. What are you expecting as they come
home? Do you think that'll givethem a lift? I think home ice
is gonna be the obvious big lift. That's the first thing. I think
it's just because there hasn't been ameaningful game of full meetings since Game six
against Dallas. But I mean,let's just look at reality here. Colorado's
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going to come in the Kraken bouncedthem first round of the playoffs last year.
They're going to be an angry teamCarolina. I mean, they laiden
Egg and Anaheim last night. ButRod Brendanmore coaches that team so well,
they're gonna be a machine. That'sa frightening opponent right there. And then
you had the New York Rangers alsocoming up to end this whole thing with
three games. So I mean itis early, but there is little margin
(36:30):
for air here. So that firstperiod, especially tomorrow night, first ten
minutes, I think it's going tomean a whole lot. Okay, so
we have never really seen this team, at least in the last year,
still gonna score as much. What'sbeen the main difference I think from this
year early on and how I compareit to last year. Anders I think,
(36:51):
if they find a way to turnthings around and I kind of look,
you know, into the future here, what that tells me is that
this is a team that plays suchan intro. Kit's system was so much
detailed that it takes a while forthem to really get going and get past
the whole mistake period. They onlyhad one win first five games last year,
but then they got passed at firstfive games and we all saw what
(37:13):
happened next year. So these nextfew games are going to be tell tale
to me as far as how muchthey're linked up with execution. The personnel
is still there. The only bigguy they miss is Daniel Sproung twenty one
goals. So I believe Borukovski willbe there. I believe Tolbden will be
there, McCann will be there.Benier's goal scorers are streaky and they're going
through a bit of a dry spellright now, but the expectation is that
(37:36):
it's going to end here pretty soon. Any little queak or twerks or like
tweaks and quirks is kind of whatI was looking for. Hopefully any like
line changes or anything going in tomorrownight. As of right now, if
we can look at from today,I wouldn't be surprised to see Oliver b
York stray and and Andre Berikowski flip, and so David axtells is trying to
(38:00):
get something going. He's trying tosee if something else works with Berukovsky,
especially the orch Strand, because theirpotential says right now twenty five goals,
maybe even thirty at their peak,but of course they're part of that dry
spell right now. Burakowsky thing tome is that it's not a physical thing.
He hadn't played hockey in about eightmonths. But it's a timing thing.
It's like a hitter in baseball whereyou take five days off and he
(38:22):
looks like a one to fifty hitterall of a sudden, it takes a
while to get back up to speed. And the same goes here for Berukovsky
when it comes to the You knowDave Haxtall, I mean, he's a
pretty stoic person. You have amore inside the locker room look at things.
How do you think he's handling theteam right now? Oh, he's
handling it just fine. I mean, if there's one advantage that this team's
(38:45):
got, it's their leadership, andbecause there was little turnover from last season,
that's the advantage they have. WhereI think really psychologically everyone's on the
same page. But when you stepaway from playing hockey for about five months,
you're going to come up with mistakeshere in this system. And sometimes
guys just may be getting a littlebit tense. As far as you know,
(39:07):
I should be scoring goals. I'mnot scoring goals. Why am I
not scoring goals? But I mean, I think he was Yonni Gord after
the national game of the Saint Louisgame. So we just got to relax
here. And so that's where thatleadership begins to filter down from the veteran
guys, where they say, guys, it's early, don't pan it.
It's so easy to overreact. Ifor the first week. I mean,
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I heard one person say in NewYork that Adam Fox is grossly over rat
and I go, my goodness,Adam Fox grossly over ray. Are you
talking about overreaction there? That isNew York media. It's very very early.
Well, thank you Mike benon theDaily power Play. Thank you for
being in studio. It's lovely tosee you again. Always love it when
you come around. Remember again thecrack and hit the ice. Seven o'clock
(39:51):
tomorrow night. Get there if youcan. Six thirty pre game with the
one and only Betton, who's sittingright here. Coming up next, Thank
you sir. Coming up next weekwill be joined by Mike Sando, who
has got an eye on all thingsSeahawks and around the NFL. That's next
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