Katie Britt Talks with JT about her trip to Isreal

Fresh from her trip to Israel to see conditions first hand, Alabama Senator Katie Britt talks with JT about what we need to do next. She also addresses the controversy surrounding the appointment of Military personnel being halted by Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville.

Episode Transcript

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This is Viewpoint, Alabama on theAlabama Radio Network. I'm JT, and
I'm speaking with our senator from Alabama. Katie Britt is back from her trip
to Israel here on US soil.Katie's so glad you made it back,
save travels and everything. Thank God, you're safe in your crew, are
back your home. Absolutely. Wegot back about three a m. On
Tuesday morning. Went obviously both toIsrael, Saudi and Egypt as we work

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to create a path to peace therein the Middle East, and also to
be shoulder to shoulder there in Israel, making sure that the world knows that
America stands with Israel. Absolutely.So you're back. Are you in Alabama?
You in DC? What's Friday morninglooking on for you? I got

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home last night this morning, JT. The life of the real window into
a life of a senator is thismorning trying to make breakfast for the kids
to get them out the door ontime. We had that bagels and blueberries,
by the way, and then Icome back. I realized I did
not in my screwting them out thedoor so that we were not tardy.

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I did not put up everything frombreakfast and lo and behold just walked back
into the house and the dog foundit all. So now I've got an
additional set of things to clean upthat is strown all across the kitchen floor.
Winning this morning. Wait, youknow, in most people they see
movies and senators. You know,they're expecting Katie to have a little bell
to ring for the maid to cometake care of everything. Nice to know

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you live the normal life further fromYeah, couldn't be further from the troop.
That's exactly right, Spinning in ontwo wheels and carpool lines, trying
to get them there on time,and then coming home and realizing I have
a whole new set of problems.Sure there you go. All right,
Well, let's talk about your tripto Israel, the good, the bad,
and the ugly. Let's start withthe good. The good. One

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of the things that I think isimportant to note is that the people of
Israel are resilient and even in theface of just unimaginable tragedy and barbaric atrocities,
they are committed now more than everto eradicating evil. And I would

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say another thing is there's not manythings where we have an opportunity these days
to really approach in a bipartisan way, and there were both Democrats and Republicans
on the on the trip that we'revery loudly saying we stand with Israel hamas
is isis and must be defeated.And so, you know, for me,

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as both a Christian and an American, to see that show of support
in that type of way right nowin this day and age, j T.
You know it, don't We don'tsee that very often. And so
and we certainly have seen people onthe fringes here in this nation that are
unable to call evil evil, whichtruly, in my mind is just uncomprehensible.

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It's just I mean, I can't. I can't even I can't.
It's uncomprehensible. I mean, itreally is. So having that moment was
a good moment for America to havesome unity to show everyone across the globe
our strength and our stance with Israel. All Right, I want you to
weigh in on this next cut.I'm going to play for you here.
This is Kalan Amari's a Palestinian affairsfellow, and basically, I think a

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lot of people here in the UnitedStates want an answer to this question as
well, because there's so many protestson campuses, and these specifically younger people
that I think are misinformed and don'tknow anything about history, that are standing
up for the Palestinians and Hamas andIsrael is the bad guy in all of
this. So this man was askedby Fox News, what do Palestinians think

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about Hamas? Listen, I feelsorry for them. I speak to many
of them, and they're very angry. They're not only yet Israel, but
they know that Hamas dragged them intothis, or they are fully aware of
what's happening. They're afraid to speakout. That's a problem. But Katie,
depending on who you ask, Ihave also heard that Palestine and people

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for the most part, don't havea problem with Hamas doing this to Israel.
What's the reality in that? Look, I think what we're seeing on
our college campuses with respect to theanti Semitism, the calls for genocide are
despicable, disgusting, and they mustend. Everyone has a right to free

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speech, but you do not havethe right to promote genocide. And just
goodness gracious, the hate and murderouspeople of Hamas. They are evil,
they are Isis, and I thinkwe have to stand firm to say not
only did Hamas attack Israel and saythat number one, they want Israel Is

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to be wiped off the planet.They want the Jewish people to be wiped
off off the planet. But itis my view they also have held down
the Palestinian people. So all ofthe aid that has gone into Gaza from
across the world since Hamas was electedin two thousand and six, taking office
there two thousand and six two thousandand seven has been stolen from the people

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of Gaza. And that is thetruth. I mean here there were pipesent
and to create fresh water pipes andother things. They use those, cut
those off and use them for weaponry. They took food and misplaced it.
They took money that was supposed togo for aid and used it, used
it to further their hate, tofurther their terrorism. You know, expeditions

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here which are just it's mind boggling. And I really believe a bright future
for Gaza and the West Bank.It starts with the eradication of Hamai.
So Israel and the United States wantpeace, we want stability, and we
want security. Were the Palestinian peopleand as long as Hamas is here,
it's not happening. And let metell you why. So when I went
to Israel, not only did Imeet with the hostage, the families of

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hostages, which honestly JT. Youknow, when you're sitting in there and
they're telling their story about their sonor their daughter, or their aunt or
their uncle, or their grandparent ortheir child, you you just it is.
It is hard to even fathom whatthey're going through. And this is
at the hands of Hamas. They'recowards. Hamasa's cowards are now using them

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as human shields. But then theyshowed us the videos of what they actually
did. JT. They showed themto us, the Israeli government, because
these these terrorists, these despicable humanbeings, not only slaughtered individuals, but
they videoed it. They put gopro cameras on their heads. JT.

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So all of these people on thesecollege campuses that are saying this stuff never
happens, listen up. I seenit with my own eyes. They put
kids out and watch made parents watchthem murder their children. They made children
watch us. They burned their parentsalive. I saw where they raped women.

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I saw them take a sledgehammer toa live man's face on the concrete.
This is disgusting. They stepped onpeople's heads and cut them off.
JP. This is not normal.This is either it is and what we
do is eradicated. We got eradicated, and let me one more thing.
JT. Listen. People are sayingthis is similar to nine to eleven,

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similar to Pearl Harber. Okay,I understand the similarities and some of that,
but I do want to make surethat people understand a very distinct difference,
and that is when we woke upthe next day as a country.
In both of those instances, theenemy with oceans away, When the Israeli
people, when the fish people wokeup that next day on October eighth,

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and they went to tuck their childrenin in bed that night, the enemy
was less than five miles away,who were savage who don't know the difference
in military operations and innocent civilians.And they cannot safely tuck their kids and
bed at night until we eradicate humas. Never again must mean never again,
and this country has to stand byits word on that. It is You've

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nailed it. It is absolutely nothingbut pure evil, and they do need
to be eradicated. Continuing our conversation, with Senator Katie Brittain. She's agreed
to stay is as long as weneed her. And Katie, I appreciate
you being here, and I wouldlike to keep you for another segment after
the Bomb of the Hour News ifwe can do that, because I think
there's some things you know that Iwant to talk to you about. Why

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don't we start, first of allwith Iran in this whole mess right now?
We've had sanctions on them before wereleased six billion dollars in the hostage
exchange. I understand that's been kindof frozen again, but are we doing
enough to keep Iran ed bay andcalm as much as they're saber rattling and
threatening that if Israel goes in theGaza, hell is going to rain down?
So what about the sanctioning in theIran factor in all of this?

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Yeah, So that is such acritical component to all of this. You
are spot on. So what westill happened starting with Obama and then once
again vamping back up, ramping backup during the Biden administration is appeasement to
Iran. Here's the deal. Ifthe Biden administration thinks, for whatever reason,
they're going to find any moderates inthe Iranian regime. They are literally

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on a fool's Errand you know,whether it is Iran funding Hamas, funding
their proxy Hezbollah they're in Lebanon,whether it's the Houthis and Yemen, they
are both funding and training these terrorcells in the region. Iran's number one

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goal, they have stated, itis to wipe Israel off the face of
this planet. And so the factthat the Biden administration came back in and
doubled down on on the midsteps ofthe Obama and An administration is absolutely I
mean it just it makes no sense. Yesterday we had a hearing. I
actually got to serve as the rankingmember of the Banking Committee on the hearing

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yesterday on US sanctions and the effectthat they're having on terrorism. What we
pointed out was to your earlier pointthat six billion dollars needs to be refrozen.
It doesn't need to be a handshakeagreement. This needs to be solid
as a rock. We have seenthe money go from obviously into Gatar.
We don't we don't need a gentleman'sagreement. We need we need facts,

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we need, we need it frozen. It does not need to move because
we know that money is fungible,and despite what the Biden administration has said,
oh, this money is going tobe used for humanitarian aid or food
or this or that, we knowthat all that they will do is displace
the money they had planned to useon that use more money for terrorism.
So that is an absolute no go, and I've signed on to a number
of pieces of legislation than letters tothat effect. Next is obviously the way

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that we're treating these sanctions. We'vegot to go back to what President Trump
did with a strategy of maximum pressure, meaning we've got to drill in and
do bone crushing sanctions on Iran.Biden came in, he let up on
these sanctions. What we've seen thenis them be able to reap the benefits
of oil revenue across the region.We also are not making sure that our

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other adversaries are actually following the sanctionsthat have been emplaced on them. So
our advisaries like China and Russia andpeople like Venezuela are making sure that Iran
has more and more money, andso they have about eighty billion dollars I
think is what it's said in justbeing able to move money around because Joe

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Biden is not placing the pressure,so we've got to do that. So
that's the economic reality of what we'vegot to do, because we have to
have to financially drive them up.Does that make sense? Absolutely? And
we've got one of the weakest commanderin chiefs this nation has ever seen.
And I think this is why anumber of things are happening around the globe
because the United States is not perceived. In fact, it's reality. We

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are a weak nation when it comesto leadership and the strength of our military
around the globe. Continuing our conversationwith Senator Katie Bridd, Katie, I
appreciate you staying a little bit longerthan we usually do, but I just
wanted to get your thoughts on this. And I actually had a text message
during the last break. Somebody textme and said, ask her about her
position with Tommy Tuberville's stance on holdingup promotions of military because of his position

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with abortions and being paid for bytaxpayer dollars. Are you on board?
Do you support Tommy Tuberville in this? Yeah? Look, I am one
hundred percent pro life, and aswe have said, Senator Tuberville has every
right to hold these nominations. Andthe interesting thing here is is Chuck Schumer

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has manipulated the media, and themedia is not telling the full story.
First off, this is absolutely aviolation of the High Amendment, the spirit
of the High Amendment. I mean, if you look at the High Amendment,
you look at the spirit of theHigh Amendment. Paying for servicemen and
women to travel to another stay,paying for their room and board, all

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of those things, for them togo have an abortion is absolutely outside the
scope. And when you look atthis too, we don't if that same
servicemen or women if their father ormother died, or if their sibling died,
we would make them actually take timeoff to go do that. We
wouldn't pay for them to go dothat, and wouldn't go pay for them

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to go home for a funeral.We wouldn't give them time off to go.
They would have to take leave ontheir own. So just our priorities
are once again wrong. And weare so sick of the military. You
know, people from the Biden administrationinterjecting politics into the military. This is
all we need to be concentrated onour war fighter, making sure that they're
a best trained, equipped, andprepared. We are seeing that now more

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than ever. That needs to beour focus, not interjecting socials into into
the war fighters service time. Soand also back to what what Schumer has
done. He has absolutely manipulated themedia on this. He can bring these
to the floor and in fact,when pushed, has I signed with Senator

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Tuberville just a few days ago todischarge some more of these because he can't.
You know, Sumer just needs tobe bringing them to the floor.
And if he had us actually working, So let's work on Monday, let's
work on Friday, let's work duringAugust. We have these all confirmed.
It sounds like Schumer is avoiding bringingthe vote for the promotion to the floor
just for political reasons to use itagainst Tuberville and any Republicans, when in

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fact, like you said, hecan bring the promotion of X y Z
military personnel for a vote on thefloor. Its you know it does it
can still happen. It sounds likeyes, and let's and let's do that.
I am so sick of look doI would I much rather be Alabama,
absolutely, but my job is tobe up there fighting for the people

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of Alabama. He needs to keepus in session. We need to be
voting. We don't need to besitting there twiddling our thumbs. We need
to get on the floor. Weneed to make tough decisions, and we
need to move this country in theright direction. The truth is, you
know, I think to your point, I think politically speaking, he likes
this narrative, and we continue.We have to force him to bring them
to the floor. Let's get himvote, and let's do our job.

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Are you not sick of people inDC not doing their job? I mean
here, we have November seventeenth comingup, which is going to be yet
another that's when the cr runs out. We need to be doing these appropriations
bills, working with our counterparts inthe House, passing them, funding the
government properly, being judicious, beingtargeted, and getting this country back on

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track. People are sick of politicalthings. They want us to work.
Absolutely, Senator, I appreciate you, Katie. Thank you so much for
the time you've given us. Katiehave a great weak. You keep telling
the story because the mainstream media isnot going to tell it, So thank
you. And now his viewpoint continueshere with a story about an Alabama restaurant
making a difference in one community isJohn Mounds. Imagine a restaurant with the

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best food you've ever tasted. Howmuch would you pay for this kind of
food? What do you think isfair? How about whatever you think is
fair? That sounds crazy, Butjoining me right now in our viewpoint Alabama
Studios is a crazy man with thiscrazy idea, or so you might think.
It's the Reverend Garrett Harper. Welcometo the show and tell us about
the earth. About the Wee Cafe? All right, I'm glad to be

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here, Thanks John. The weCafe is a hey as you can restaurant
at erb Ministry, which is anonprofit in Birmingham's West End. So in
west End, now, for thosepeople who don't live in and around the
Birmingham area, and the West Endis not necessarily known for being the most
up and coming area. There aregood things happening there, but there's a

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lot of people who live in theover the mountain part of town who they
don't go to West End and ithas kind of a negative reputation. But
it's the kind of thing that thepeople west End need, and most folks
who don't live there or have familywho live there, avoid our side of
town. But to have something beautifullike the We Cafe, a restaurant at
Urban Ministry in West End, it'sa real gift to the community. So

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describe the We Cafe is. Whatis it like? When you go in
there? It's different than McDonald's.What's it like? It's beautiful. We
renovated the space. There's real platesin civilware, there's plants in the windows,
and some smooth dazz usually playing overthe speakers, and people from all
different places and all different economic situationsare all eating at tables together. So

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this is not a soup kitchen.It's not a soup kitchen. So I
want to in order to understand wherethe We Cafe is now, I need
to back up a little bit.Okay, So Urban Ministry is a nonprofit
in a really low income area,and traditionally we've done direct services. Now

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direct services is often rent and utilityassistance. People come in because they can't
pay their light bill, or theycan't pay they're about to lose their home.
They come in and they get helpfrom us. Now, while this
kind of service helps someone temporarily,it's our conviction that it actually has an

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unattended consequence that does long term damage. It's one of those give a man
of fish and they'll eat for aday. You teach a man to fish
and eat for lifetime kind of things. A little bit. So when you
come into an organization like ours toget help with rent and utility assistance,
Now, of course you come in, we give you that kind Southern hospitality,

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but the first thing you're met withwhen we get down to the business
is implicit distrust. So you comein and you know we're really kind,
but we say what brings you intoday? And you say, well,
I lost my job and I can'tpay my lights, to which we say,
not in these words, but proveit, because we don't trust your

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word. In fact, we haveall these grants and they require certain evidence
to show that what you're saying istrue. And so can you give us
a statement from your landlord. Well, you tell us that your landlord's from
Massachusetts, he's never been to Alabama, he's a slum lord, he's awful,
and we say, well, wetrust him. Well, and being
cynical, it's a natural human thing. I mean, we are necessarily cynics

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by nature, I think a lotof times, so we don't always trust
the words of individuals, especially ifthey might look at house, they might
present themselves in a manner that youmight think this person could be on something.
They're going they might be misusing thismoney. I want to check it
out. I mean, it's anatural thing. Well, I don't know
if it's natural, but that isan assumption that we have, and that

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this system of doing nonprofit work inlow income areas, that's the assumption we
come in with. So let mekeep going though. So you come in
and you prove you're as poor aas you say you are. Maybe you
give us some stubs that show youwere fired. Maybe you go get this
paper notarized by somebody trustworthy. Anyway, we believe you you lost your job
and you can't pay your lights,you're as poor, you're poor enough to

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meet the eligibility requirements. Then youget to sit down with a social worker
right now. Traditionally, this kindof social work is oriented toward figuring out
everything that's going wrong with you.They're trying to get a holistic picture of
all of your needs. And sothere's actually a checklist. And so say

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you were coming in, say thatyou lost your job and you're having struggle
you're struggling to pay your lights,It says, okay, John, what
brings you in? Okay? Delinquentlights? Oh, you're already told me
about your housing, unstable housing.How's your water bill? Well, right
now, Birmingham water Works is allover the board. The mayor even tweeted
about it, and they're not sureif you've paid your water or not.

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So useaiah. I'm not paying thewater right now because the bills are wonky.
And we say okay, okay,unstated water, delinquent water. Then
I might show you a piece ofpaper and say can you read this?
And you squint and squirm and blush, and you say I dropped out in
third grade to help my mom.I can't read. Hey, John,
that's okay, illiterate. I sawyou squinting when you looked at these words.

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Do you need glasses? Oh?You do? Visual deficit? How
are your teeth? You weren't thinkingabout your teeth. You were thinking about
your light bill. But you hadn'tbeen to the dentist in twenty years.
Needs dental? Do you have anykids? Well? Say you do?
You perk up because you love yourkids. But my real question is is
there a teenage pregnancy in your house. There is okay, because there's a
lot of money for that, right, teenage pregnancy. After we have a

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list of all the ways you're failingto be the person that you want to
be and from my framework, theperson that God's calling you to be,
then we say sit tight, we'regoing to get you some help. Now,
the only thing we know about youis all the ways that you're failing.
We don't know that the person acrossthe table grows the best tomatoes in

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the southeast. We don't know anythinggood about the person in this system.
The only thing we need to know, the only thing we're interested in is
the ways that you're bad. Right, So then you go through this whole
process. You're reduced to everything that'sgoing wrong. Maybe you get five six
hundred dollars towards your housing. Thenyou get in your car, you drive

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across town to Salvation Army, andon the way you fine tune your pitch
about how awful you are. Thebetter you are at selling your failure,
the more eligible you are for funding. So you do it at Salvation Army.
Maybe your pitch is a little bitbetter than you did at Urban.
So you go over to the UnitedWay. You do it there, you're
getting even better. You go toa couple of churches, pull on their

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heartstrings, hit Avondale, Samaritan Place. You're eligible at Urban in Ministry again,
so you come back to us.Before you know it, a couple
of years passes by. You becomean expert at one thing, thinking about
how awful you are. You developeda skill set that's really not one you
should be working on. Yeah,and what I see happening is so say
there's a person that lives two blocksSuburban Ministry. They have a good job.

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Their neighbor across the street has aheart attack. People are going hysterical.
They run across the street, givehim CPR and they save his life.
Right, everybody's praising him up anddown. You're amazing. But two
months later they lose their job.They resist coming to Urban because they don't
want to be humiliated, but eventuallythey swallow their pride. They come to
us, they're met with implicit distrust. They're reduced to all the ways that

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they're failing. And maybe they getfive six hundred bucks and then they drive
to Salvation Army, then United Way, then a church, this church that
organization, They come back to urban. They do that cycle for two years.
Two years later, neighbor has aheart attack again. People run over,
help, help, help, Weneed you, we need you.
It happened again. You say,I can't do that, I'm not good
enough. No no, no,you did it. We need you.

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No, no, no, Letthe people and the white coats do that.
I can't do that. Who taughther that she wasn't good enough?
Or ministry did right? It's soyeah, yes, she received thousands of
dollars over those two years, butat what cost. I preach all the
time, and I work really hardon my sermons, and when I do.

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When I preach a sermon that's notvery good and somebody gives me negative
feedback, I beat myself up fora week about it. I can't imagine
somebody only being interested in all thethings that are wrong with me. The
Week Cafe is designed to be theopposite experience of rent and utility assistance.
The whole system is built on trust, and also it helps people as it

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gives them a meal. It alsohelps people because people are able to participate
in the process. Do you haveany paid employees or are these all people
who volunteer there at week cafe.Yeah, we do have paid employees.
So first we have a culinary trainedchef who cooks the food. This is
one thing that sets us apart froma food to kitchen is the food is

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really really good. Second, wehire young adults from West End who have
skills or gifts in cooking, andwe hone those culinary skills through teaching them
cooking skills in the cafe. Sothe meal that you're when you eat when
you come to us, there's aculinary trained chef overseeing it, but there's
a couple of young adults who liveright down the street who are learning to

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be chefs working underneath them. Howabout the ingredients that you use? Do
you just go to the Sam's andjust get and just get some stuff or
is it donated a little both ora little bit of both. We have
a pretty large community garden and soright now we'll have one hundred pounds of
radishes and they'll incorporate it, orpotatoes, or we had some sweet corn

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we harvested recently, So a goodbit comes from our garden and the rest
it's just like any other restaurant.We have a Cisco partnership. They drop,
they bring a big truck once aweek and there's a menu. And
I went to the website, andwhat's the website by the way, Urbandahministry

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dot org, Urbandashministry dot org.And I went to the website and I
saw it where under the wee cafethere is a menu where it shows what's
being served most days, and sopeople can go there and see what's on
the menu. That's right. Sothere's usually one meat option and one vegetarian
option, and you can hop onthe website and see what's being served.
Now are you aware of because thisis a radical idea. I've not heard

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of this before, but I've gotto think that you're not the first person
to come up with something like this. Is this done in other places in
the state. There is a groupcalled One World Everybody Eats, where these
pay as you can cafes is kindof a coalition where they come together and
share ideas. We're the only onesthat are rooted in the middle of a
low income neighborhood. Most of thetime they're in places that are either in

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an inner city or they're on theline between area of town that has more
money and the other side of townmight not have, but it's usually in
closer proximity to people who can paymore. That's true. And I guess
you're not quite near downtown Birmingham inthe hospitals and all that kind of stuff,
so people do have to make alittle bit of a trip a lot
of them to go there. Doyou have a lot of people come from

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over the mountain or maybe you know, even the next county over to check
the place out. Yeah, wedo, and we have a little side
room that seats about twenty five people, and different businesses around Birmingham will sometimes
come and have a team or staffmeeting in that room and they'll all pay
for that meal, and that reallyhelps balance out and cover the cost of

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people who are paying through volunteering.It's an amazing concept. Have you thought
about expanding into a situation where youcan deliver stuff because not everyone is mobile
enough to be able to walk throughthe doors. Maybe somebody needs delivered to
their house. Have you thought aboutdoing something like that? We have a
little bit. So one of ourgoals is to build community, and so

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one thing we don't do right nowis to go boxes. If we did
to go plates. People would comein, grab their food and leave.
But our goal is to bring peopletogether around tables to sit down, eat
a great meal, and get toknow each other. So the sense of
community is a big part of this. It is now we have talked about
when there is say we have areally stormy day and we overcook, we

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have too much food. We havefolks who can package that up into go
boxes and take it to people whoare sick or shut in, so we
don't waste any food. Although I'llhave to say we've been serving more and
more people every single day, sowe rarely have extra. Well, that's
actually a very good thing. Itsounds like the portions are decent, you

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know. One of the things youalso think about. I'm comparing this to
like say the Wednesday night meals theyhave at church a lot of times,
and you kind of go in there. Here's this little tiny piece of chicken,
here's three grains of rice, andyou know, go off and study
your Bible. But this isn't that. This sounds like you're actually going to
get a full meal this play.Yeah, it's a good meal. Well,
Reverend Garrett Harper, thank you somuch for coming in for more information
again that website, Yeah, wwwdot Urban dashministry dot org and check out

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the week cafe and uh, what'swhat's the special? Today is a Today
is a Thursday? Does it thesame everyday? Like of the week,
like every Thursday is the same thing? Or it changes all the time.
No, it changes all the timeand usually the menu is a month out.
But today is polish Polish sausage,delicious, wonderful. Well, Garrett,

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thank you so much for coming inand being on Viewpoint Alabama. Thanks
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