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Hey, it's Jennifer Jones Lee.You're listening to KFI, a M six
forty wake up call on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. You are halfway to
the weekend already. Here's Jennifer JonesLee with your Wednesday morning wake up call.
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Oh day, Oh it was bad. It was really bad, but
I attract I don't know where thatcame from because I hate it when HANDLE
does it. But I've been talkingabout hump day. It just came out.
I apologize to all of you.A good morning, been a morning
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already. Every morning my day goeslike this. The alarm goes off,
the dogs know it's time to getup, and as I tell them,
I opened the back door and Isay go get busy, which you know
what that means. Everybody runs out, Everybody does their thing. Only two
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run back in. No, whenit wasn't even Betty White this time.
Freaking Daisy. Daisy is my eightpounds on a good day, little chihuahua,
mixed thing. I don't know whatthe hell she is, to be
honest, anyway, can't find her, can't find her. I go out
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and I'm doing the like day dayday day, like that. Weird loud
whisper that you're trying to do soyou don't wake the neighborhood at three o'clock
in the morning day, says he. And then I'm trying to do a
whistle, but it's more like becauseI'm trying not to wake the freakin neighbors.
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Finally, I'm texting Michelle. I'mrunning behind I can't find freaking daisy.
So there I am now in thebackyard with pants in, my sweatshirt
on and my slippers. Still findthe damn dog. But she's behind a
bunch of rosebushes. I don't knowif I ever told you, guys,
but the guy who owned the housebefore me was a professional landscaper. That's
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what he did. And so Ihave the most stunning backyard with fruit trees
and roses and big palm trees andwhatever. She's back though, behind my
grove of rosebushes. I can't getback there, and I don't know what
was back there. She finally cameand I put her inside. What do
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you do to a dog? Nothingother than I say to her, don't
do that again. Sure that wentover well? Who absolutely scaf I am
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadioapp. I hope your Wednesday morning is
going a little more routinely than minedid. Some of the stories we're watching
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in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom, a tip to the FBI has led
to the arrest of a man accusedof killing five of his neighbors in Cleveland,
Texas. Also, we have ahorrible story out of Serbia this morning
where eight kids and a guard havebeen killed in a shooting at a school
in Serbia, and LAPD Chief Mooresays violent crime continues to go down,
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So we'll be watching for that andwe'll get Steve Gregory's report on that.
Also, we'll talk with Inez DelaKutera, the Russian defense chief. Apparently,
once wartime missile output doubled, thatis not news Ukraine wants to hear.
So all of that is coming up, but let's start with some of
these stories in the KFI twenty fourhour newsroom. Suspect is in custody.
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A tip to the FBI led tothe arrest of the guy accused of killing
five of his neighbors in Cleveland,Texas. The arrest yesterday ended a four
day searched. The sheriff greg Kapersays, Francisco Oropezo was found in a
house only about twenty miles from hishome. He was caught hatting it underneath
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some laundry. Now, I needto know whose house this was. How
long had he been there? Didhe just get there? Had he been
there the whole four days? OrOpeza is now in jail facing five counts
of murder. Officials say the mankilled his neighbors with an AAR style rifle
after some of them ask him tostop firing rounds in his yard. Immigration
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officials say the alleged shooter is fromMexico and has been deported four times.
Now. Obviously it will be aidingand a betting for whoever home he was
in. But I'm curious about thatbecause here's a guy who we all sort
of assumed would run back to runback to Mexico, right, But he
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stayed in Texas, and I'm curiousas to why and who was hiding him.
I don't know, we'll find outmore, I'm sure as the investigation
goes on. Eight kids and aguard have been killed in a shooting at
school in Serbia. Abcason As DelaKutera says the alleged shooter is a seventh
grade boy. The fourteen year oldsuspect apparently fired several shots from his father's
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gun. He has been arrested.Six other students and one teacher were injured.
Police say they got a call aboutthe shooting at the primary school about
eight forty this morning their time.Primary schools in Serbia have eight grades,
starting with first grade. A girlwho was not hurt in the shooting,
told her dad that teenager was aquiet boy in a good student and as
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Dela Kutera, good morning to you. I think the very first thing that
I thought about when I saw thatthe Russian defense minister wanted to double the
missile production for wartime, I thoughtto myself, Oh my gosh, Ukraine.
And then I thought, wait,this might actually be a sign that
Russia's got kind of an AMMO.I don't know, shortage or crunch or
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something like that. What's the story, Well, hey, good morning.
Yeah, it's really hard to knowabout how to read this. So Russia's
defense chief Sergey showing you, wasspeaking at a meeting with his top military
generals, and he said that thestate owned Tactical Missiles Corporation would be doubling
its missile output. He said,it is unnecessary right now to double the
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production of high precision weapons in theshortest possible time. And this comes as
we know Russia is bracing for apossible Ukrainian counter offensive. We're expecting Ukraine
to launch some kind of massive counteroffensive in the springs, so that could
come at any time. Now.We also know that Russia's weapons supply has
been dwindling for months now. Sothis appears to be evident that that Russia
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is admitting that things are not necessarilygoing the way they would like them too.
That you know, it apps tobe an admission at least that they
need more missiles. But Russia hasso rarely done that, you know,
Russia has has has barely spoken aboutthe numbers of casualties they've suffered, for
instance, and they don't like toadmit any kind of weakness. So,
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you know, on the one hand, Summer reading this, you know this,
this the Russians defense chiefs asking astate companies to double its missile output.
Some are reading that as as evidencethat Russia isn't doing so well.
Others are saying there must be moreto it than that, and maybe Russia's
trying to kind of learn Ukraine inhere and give U create false hope when
really they haven't figured out and they'rejust going to you know, be punching
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back harder. See. And that'sthe other side of it too, is
this a oh no, Ukraine,we don't have anything to fight your counter
offensive. Oh look at us,We better scramble. But really they do
have some you know, I don'tknow cash of weapons somewhere, that's right.
I mean, that's the big question, and we just we just don't
know. Um when it comes totheir weapons supply. Western intelligence is that
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their their weapons supply, uh,you know, it has been dwindling.
That's part of the reason we sawRussia going after Ukraine's energy grid over over
the winter because they were they justdidn't have enough missiles to launch a large
scale missile attacks and so they weretargeting you know, very specific uh so
the energy infrastructure or military facilities,things like that. We do know that
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Russia, we're getting new numbers whenit comes to the casualties that Russia has
suffered in the war. So theWhite House estimates that Russia has suffered one
hundred thousand casualties in the last fivemonths of fighting, including a twenty thousand
dead and the UK also has intelligencethat logistics problems remain at the heart of
Russia's struggling campaign in Ukraine. So, at least according to Western intelligence,
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it does appear that Russia is struggling. All right, thank you, and
as I appreciate it, thank you, all right, See you later.
ABC's Inez de la Kutera get backto some of our local stories. LAPD
Chief Moore says violent crime continues toslow down looking back over the last few
years, More said there was somepositive news. Overall or total violent crime
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is down ten point seven percent.That's just under eleven one hundred fewer violent
crimes over a period of time goingback to twenty nineteen. More said over
the last year, homicides are downtwenty three robberies down sixteen percent, and
aggravated assalter down six and a halfpercent. More also told the Police Commission
yesterday there were seven officer involved shootingsthis year, compared to six the same
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time last year. Steve Gregory KOFINEWS, people in California will soon have a
new hotline to report hate. Thehotline will take calls in two hundred different
languages. People won't only be ableto report hate crimes, but also hate
incidents, hate incidents, or tofined by the status hostile actions motivated by
bias that violates civil rights laws orcause significant harm to communities. Officials say
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they hope the hotline, which beginstomorrow, will help officials prevent hate crimes
by improving the data surrounding hate.People who called the hotline will be connected
with services, including legal help.In La Blake Trolley k if I news.
A man in Orange County has beensentenced to five years in prison for
raping two women at Huntington Beach Hospital. Police say all three women were patients
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in June of twenty twenty one.The man was a patient in the psychiatric
ward. He pleaded guilty in Decemberto several felonies. He got credit for
seven hundred eighty days in jail andhas been ordered to register as a sex
offender. Did you see any ofthe picketing yesterday? Writers in La traded
their pens for picket signs to demandhigher pay and benefit. Thousands of members
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with the Writers Guild of America walkedoff the job after talks with major production
companies broke down. Writers say halfof union members are making minimum pay and
aren't getting enough royalties for all oftheir hard work. We want residuals to
be equal to what we get onnetwork We do the same work on network
TV that we do on streaming,but we get paid less. Writers picketed
outside of production studios yesterday after workersrejected an offer Monday night, calling the
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proposal insufficient. The union says itwill continue striking today and every day until
they get a fair deal. ChrisAdler KFI News Well, a man in
Huntington Beach has pleaded guilty to killinga cat by slamming it against the windshield
of cars. The guy was sentencedyesterday to six months in jail. Really,
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I know that there are some peoplewho are thinking to themselves, it's
a cat. Yeah, it's acat. This guy is messed up,
and we're giving him six months.Police arrested the man in March. He
was charged with cruelty to animals andother crimes. He got a plea deal
from the judge that reduced the chargesfrom felonies to misdemeanors. Am I the
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only one, and not just becausethis is an animal story, but am
I the only one who is sick, sick, sick, sick, and
tired of hearing plea deals where feloniesgo to misdemeanors. I know that's the
game. I got it. I'mnot new, but I'm just tired of
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it. Like, when are wegoing to hold people accountable and give them
the sentences that they deserve instead ofall right, well yeah it's a misdemeanor,
it's a slap. Come on,now, does anybody want somebody who
could do something like that back insociety? Do you feel comfortable with that
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guy living next door to you?On my soapbox? This morning, local
leaders, parents, and law enforcementin Orange County have increased calls for the
state tapascitif or penalties for fentanyl dealers. As a mom, this scares the
hell out of me. Assemblywoman KattyPeter Norris is one of several Democrat and
Republican lawmakers to introduce new bills.These are not accidental, this is poison.
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But Public Safety Committee members rejected manybills claiming accidental overdoses. If I
was sitting in a bar in orderto cocktail and somebody put cyanide in it,
nobody would be talking about that Iaccidentally overdosed. I was murdered.
OC Sheriff's commander of Virgil Ascension sayscounty wide button all related deaths increased from
thirty seven in twenty sixteen to sevenhundred and seventeen and twenty twenty one.
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When Your PTA President Carol Greene describesone parent whose son started gasping. She
had been at her school board meetingthat night and been given narcam. She
dug through her backpath and gave herson the narcam and he is alive today
because of act. This is notsomebody else's kid, this is your child,
This is my child. Critics saymore punishment was also the response to
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crack than a drug war filled prisons, while ignoring addiction. In Orange County,
Corbin Carson kay, if I knewthey got him the guy that they
were looking for in Cleveland, Texaswho killed allegedly five of his neighbors.
While it was a tip to theFBI that led to the arrest of the
guy who was hiding under laundry abouttwenty miles from where the shooting took place.
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LAPD Chief Morris's violent crime continues toslow down, and a man in
oc has been sentenced to five yearsin prison for raping two women at the
Huntington Beach Hospital. Let's say goodmorning now to kaifis tech reporter Rich Demarrow.
You can hear him Rich on Techon Saturdays here on KFI from eleven
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to two. Rich, good morning. Hey, they're good morning to Jennifer.
Okay, let's talk about how Appleand Google are what joining forces?
This seems odd and why would theyjoin forces? Yes, a very rare
joint appeal by Apple and Google.But this is all for a good thing.
This is to prevent air tag tracking. And so what they're doing is,
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you know, if you have anair tag, they're really great if
you have an iPhone, but ifyou have an Android, and especially if
one of these little air tags isfollowing you, you would never know because
it doesn't tell you like the iPhonedoes. So the two companies are working
together to make sure that no matterwhich phone you have and which tracker you're
using, you will still get notifiedthat one of these trackers is near you.
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And that's the main thing here.There's lots of companies working on trackers,
Samsung, Topolo, Google is probablygoing to have their own of course
Apple has theirs, but they're notcross platform in many cases, and so
now by the end of the yearthey should be okay. And I think
it's it's just the size of theair tag, which is good because if
you want to stick it on yourdog's collar, you want to stick it
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in your purse, or you're onyour keys or whatever. It's small,
and that's wonderful. It's also veryeasy for somebody to slip one in your
purse who should not, or onyour car, or whatever the case may
be. And I mean, Iguess it's just that potential for somebody to
do something nefarious with it that makesme feel better that this is you know
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that they are teaming up to makesure that you get those alerts, because
you I would never know if somebodydropped one in my beheamoth of a purse.
Well, if you carry an iPhone, you would because eventually it would
tell you. And so that's thereal disconnect here is that, yes,
you're right, these things are amazingfor tracking luggage. They were the saviors
of last summer with the luggage issues. Yeah, but people have time and
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time again also use them, likeyou said, for bad things and they're
very easy to use for bad thingsbecause they work very well and they're tiny.
So the reality is now, nomatter which phone you carry in the
future, this is going to takea little bit for this to happen.
It's not gonna be overnight. Butthe reality is, if someone puts an
air tag in your purse, Jennifer, and you happen to be carrying a
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Samsung phone, it would still say, oh, hold on, why is
this thing tracking you? And it'seven though it's not an iPhone, which
iPhone does today. But you know, there's a lot of androids out there
too, all right. Some peoplestore their photos on Shutterfly, and I
was thinking about this. They mightnot have active accounts because they just think,
hey, that's where my photos are, but they just haven't needed them
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maybe recently. But Shutterfly is goingto start deleting your pictures. Yeah,
So, to Shutterfly's credit, wellto their discredit, they said, hey,
keep all your pictures here forever andI'll be safe. And then,
of course, as time goes on, these companies changed their tune and they
said, oh, actually, we'lljust keep your pictures for eighteen months as
long as you make a purchase oras long as you make a purchase every
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eighteen months, we'll keep your picturesunlimited. And so okay, the problem
is Shutterfly is one of those likehistorical sites that we used a long time
ago. You probably have pictures inthere from like the early two thousands.
Maybe you stopped using it, andnow all of a sudden you get this
email that says, oh, waita second, I gotta get all these
pictures out of here or make apurchase. Shutterfly says, okay, we
notice that some people didn't open thoseemails because they're from email addresses that they
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haven't used in a long time.Because again, these are very old accounts.
So long story short, you haveuntil May thirtieth, twenty twenty three
to either download your pictures or justmake a purchase, and they will stay
for another eighteen months. So justbuy a four by six, send it
to you know, mom or grandma, and you'll be good. Mother's Day
is right around the corner. That'sperfect for that. Okay, let's get
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on too. Can we go toFarmer's fridge this one? I'm so intrigued
by what is farmer's fridge and wherewhat might we see? It when it
finally makes its way to our grocerystores. Yeah, I'd love to go
there, but I you know thelocations. You know. Look this,
this is really cool. I firstsaw this at LAX. It's a vending
machine filled with fresh salad and sonot just salads but wraps and all this
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stuff. And I was really kindof skeptical when I saw it because I
was like, eve, salad froma vending machine at the airport. That's
kind of weird. And so ofcourse I tried it. It was delicious.
The company emails me because I tweetthem and they're like, hey,
you want to do a story,you want to learn more about it?
I said sure, and so theCEO took a couple of months. He
finally got out to la We talkedthis week and he said, look,
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we make all the food in Chicago, which is kind of interesting, in
their kitchen and then they truck itout overnight to all these fridges and they've
got like hundreds of them, likesix hundred across the nation. And Jennifer,
they actually use an algorithm, soat six pm, when they're done
cooking and making all these salads,they run an algorithm that looks at the
fridges across the nation and it decideswhere these salads need to go so they
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can be super fresh when they getthere. Oh my god. I love
that and were saying they were delicious. Were they expensive? But I mean,
I know airport food, you knowit's late. No, that's the
best part. It was the cheapestthing in the airport was like ten bucks
and that's like yeah, And ifyou buy it through the app at the
airport, you save twenty five percent, which I did not do because I
was like, I don't want tosign up for the app, but of
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course I did now. But anyway, you can go on their app and
see the locations they have. They'renot in a ton of places in Los
Angeles, and they're really focused onplaces like airports, hospitals, schools,
and some workplaces. But now,according to the latest news and the CEO
kind of hinted at this, they'regoing to be sold in four hundred retail
locations by the end of the year, including Costco, Target and some other
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places. So that's kind of cooling. Absolutely, I love that. I
just love the idea of more freshfood and more places. The CEO,
who started at Young Kid by theway, I mean, I'm very young.
He was a traveling salesperson and hesaid, you know, you'd get
to these cities there was nothing exceptfast food. Yeah, so these are
very good and tasty. They're reallygood too. And I think the one
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that I have gotten the sandwich fromis the Guy Fieri one that's at the
Burbank airport. And so you go. But the sandwiches are so expensive.
Holy downport is like it's like anotherplanet with the pricing. Yes, I
literally will bring my own water bottlethere because I can't spend six seventy five
on a sixteen ounce bottle of water. And I don't understand the food.
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The salad's twenty dollars for a saladyou add I added a cookie. One
time, Jennifer and I had to, like, you know, talk,
I had to call my expense personhere at KTLA just to make sure it
was okay. I don't doubt itit, really there is something about that
airport. I don't know if theyfigure, oh, we've got you know,
fancy people going through here, they'llhave the money or what, or
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if they just know, hey,we've got you, so who cares and
you'll pay it? And most peoplewill because you don't have a choice.
Oh yeah, and what's the weirdlike valet parking that's cheaper than the parking.
Yes, there are so many weirdthings about Burbank. Now Here's what
they get. It's convenient and that'swhy people go there, and that's why
I go there. And it's easyand it feels like you live in the
middle of nowhere because you're like,oh, I just took stairs up to
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this plane and okay, I'll paythe ten dollars for a water exactly.
I try and fly out of eitherBurbank or Ontario as much as I can,
But you're right, the pricing isridiculous. I guess we're paying for
the convenience. But I hear Ontariohas a vending machine with ramen, so
they've got that going. Yeah.I have not been there to see it,
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but I did a story with themat CTYS and they mentioned they have
it there, so oh my god, I can make my way out there,
all right. Sounds good. Ohwhen you do, then you can
get some ramen and bring it overto my house. Perfect. Bam.
What's going on this weekend? Rich? We are going to talk about Oh,
I went to the Clean Car Expo, which is really clean fleet Expo,
so crazy, saw so many amazingfleet trucks that are all easy.
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That took a ride in a hydrogenpowered truck yesterday. Oh that's quiet.
So we'll talk about that and ofcourse all the other tech news of the
week. All right, Rich onTech eleven to two Saturdays here on KFI
always he's on KTLA. Rich,thank you so much. Thanks Jennifer.
Hi, see later you two ABC'sMike Debusky, good morning to you.
I was fascinated by this guy,Jeffrey Hinton who made this announcement this week
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that you know, he's known asthe godfather of AI, but he's leaving
Google and regrets his life's work.What in the world is he afraid of
or what's the I guess embarrassed by? Right, So he says he's going
to step away from his role atGoogle to focus on more philosophical pursuits and
warn against the potential dangers of artificialintelligence, which which is pretty interesting because
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as you mentioned there, Jen,he is considered to be the godfather of
AI. He is credited with creatinga technique known as back propagation, which
has used in neural networks. Essentially, it was a way to teach big
computers how to think. And neuralnetworks have been around for a long time,
but they really took off the twentytens. Google bought a company that
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Hinton and two of his students createdin twenty twelve for forty four billion dollars,
and now he says he's going tostep away from his role at Google
to focus on some of the concernshe has about the technology that he himself
helped to create. And I thinkit's that's the portion of it that I'm
like, all right, wait,mister Hinton, what is it exactly that
you're so concerned about that you thinkcould lead to disaster? Right, it's
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got sort of a Frankensteinian sort ofvibe to it, Right, Yes,
what if I created? But yeah, now, he raises three main concerns.
Jen He says that misinformation it couldbe created by these large language models
chat GPT Dolly two can create veryhuman sounding writing and very realistic images,
respectively. He says that those computergenerated pieces of content could flood the Internet,
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and we will exist in a worldwhere people couldn't tell the difference between
a computer generated piece of information anda human generated one, and obviously that
raises a lot of concerns about misinformation. He says that certain jobs are at
risk. Paralegal's personal assistants, translators, he made sure to call out.
And we're also seeing that, youknow, at play in the Writer's strike
which is going on near you guysin Los Angeles. You know, one
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of the concerns that the Writer's Guildis raising is that AI could be used
to write movies and television shows,and that is a threat to that industry.
So so obviously a concern that isshowing up in the real world.
And then the third concern that Hintonraises is sort of further afield these future
applications, this idea that you know, these technologies could be used for things
in the future that they aren't necessarilybeing used for right now, things like
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elections manipulation, making sure to callout various strong men around the world,
including Vladimir Putin, to potentially swayelectorates in certain directions using these tools.
And then also battlefield manipulations idea thatyou know, they could be used in
warfare. So yeah, a lotof a lot of very concerns concerns.
Yes, before I let you go, he you think that okay, if
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you created it, you also knowhow to destroy it, or you probably
do. And I'm wondering, doeshe think that there's anything that should be
pulled back or any or is ityou know, we've opened the barn door
and too bad. Well, Imean, that's one of the sort of
interesting things that he brings up isthat because these systems are trained on such
huge swaths of data, right GPTfour, which underpins Dolly two and chat
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GPT, you know, it's trainedon the entire Internet, everything from academic
papers to you know, your Instagramfeed gen And the idea is that,
you know, because it has somuch information within it, that occasionally it
will produce information and and tell usthings that we didn't think it could tell
us, Right, Like, eventhe creators of these technologies don't necessarily know,
you know, what their full capabilitiesare. And that's obviously a concern
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that he's raising. And he saysthat regulation is key here, but that
you know, the pace of thisthe advancement of this technology is so fast
that government institutions around the world justare not keeping up at the moment.
All right, Mike, You're awesome, look forward to chatting again, of
course, take care to all right, thanks you to see you later.
ABC is Mike Debusky. He's right. It does have that sort of Frankenstein
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feel to it, like I've createda monster. All right, well can
you can you tether your monster?Momentarily, they're just you know, when
you have somebody like I don't knowthe creator of the damn thing, and
you have a guy like Elon Muskalso going hold on, hold on this.
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This could be kind of dangerous.I feel like when Elon Musk calls
out crazy or dangerous, some peoplethink he might be sort of an evil
genius himself. Not evil, butkind of a um what word am I
looking for? Unique um person?When that guy's calling it out, I
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listen. Or when the guy whocreated it says I don't want anything to
do with it, I listen becausethat makes me nervous. So we'll see.
I'll be interested to see what JeffreyHinton does outside now his role at
Google and what he's just going tobe a guy I want to follow.
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Let's put it that way. Thousandsof film and TV writers, as Mike
was just alluding to have hit thepicket lines throughout LA to demand higher pay
and benefits. Production companies and talkswith the writers union say they made an
offer to the Writer's Guild before theMonday night deadline, but this writer says
it doesn't come close to what theywant, and there were many things that
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we wanted to negotiate it on thatthey refused to discuss or even offer a
counter. So they're just shutting usdown in some areas, and that's why
we're out here. Striker's rallied yesterdayoutside the production studios in places like Culver
City and right here in Burbank,criticizing big networks for their alleged greed.
Now, strikes are expected to continuethroughout the week, and writers say they
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will strike for as long as ittakes to get that new contract. Now.
Writer and culture critic Michaelman says oneof the issues the union and the
production companies can't agree on are theresiduals. We've talked about this and the
residual model for the streaming show.The residuals model where you used to get
paid a passive income through a syndicationor you know, DVD sales stuff.
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Like that as completely out the window. Yeah, because there's no accountability.
How can you say, if youknow, I'm watching some streaming show that
was written by Tyler, and youknow when it was on a major network,
you got the sort of counter right, it could tell you there we
go, there's another person who watchedit. Streaming does not do that.
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So then the residuals that should bepaid to the writers aren't because there's no
accountability. Now, Schulman says latenight, we'll see the impact first,
but as the strike continues, newscripted shows coming out this summer into the
fall could be stalled. An organizationthat helps human trafficking survivors is scheduled to
speak to Pasadena's Commission on the Statusof Women. Cast LA's director will present
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a twenty one page presentation tonight tocity commissioners about the organization and the data
about human trafficking in the La area. Cast LA provides counseling, mentorship,
legal resources, housing education, andleadership training to people who have been human
trafficked. It also has a tollfree twenty four to seven hotline Let's say
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good morning Now to ABC's Jim Ryan. Oh, Jim, all right,
get ready, because I've got someLet's peel back the onion questions for you.
Okay, let's start with how theycaught the guy who was accused of
murdering his five neighbors. After allthey did was ask him, hey,
buddy, can you not shoot atmidnight? And he goes on this killing
spree, including this little nine yearold boy. How'd they find the guy?
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Four days later, two words,ching, ching, yes. The
reward had gone to one hundred thousanddollars, contributions from various law enforcement agencies,
the Governor's office, from crime stoppers, and shortly after that, shortly
after the reward hit one hundred thousand, somebody made a call to the FBI
and said, hey, I knowwhere Francisco Auropesa is. The FBI of
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the law enforcement agencies went out tothe house not too far from where the
crime actually happened. They went inand they found him. He apparently was
hiding jen under some laundry in acloset in this house and was taken into
custody with just as a minor pushingand shoving. Apparently this is interesting,
though other people were taken into custodyat the same time. Now, the
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Sheriff's Department of the FBI. Nobody'sbeen really specific about why were they harboring
him. Were they helping him toelude capture for the last four days?
Maybe we don't know that, butwe know that several people are in custody
besides Francisco Ropesa. The Sheriff's departmentsays more people could be arrested too in
this case. Okay, so thisis the part. Then, Okay,
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so the house was not naked.There were people in the house who knew
that he was there. So howmany of them do we know? Don't
know? We haven't they and wedon't know who those people are, what
connection they might have to oral Pessa, and and what connection they have to
the house itself. But yeah,that's all we know at this point.
I think for people in Cleveland,Texas, all they care about is that
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Francisco oral pesays behind bars now,oh absolutely, And then as far as
okay, so we don't really haveany information on the people. Is there
a chance, I guess that oralPeza was holding them hostage, that he
went to some random house or dothey think it's pretty clear that these were
people who knew him and were helpinghim. Well, it doesn't seem they
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were there or you know under durestOkay that that hasn't been clarified, but
it would seem and especially considering thatpeople who were arrested there at the scene,
that that somebody was helping him.So, you know, I think
that's a pretty safe assumption. Dothey think that the people who were helping
him might also have been one ofthe people who tipped them off in the
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sense of, hey, I knowwho this guy is, and I'll be
out of the house when they goand get everybody, you know, get
him and get the other people there. Yeah. Possibly, I mean,
but it's sort of like, Okay, I'm helping this guy to stay here
in this house, I know wherehe is. Is it worth a hundred
thousand dollars to get charged with somecrime aiding and a betting obstructing justice?
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So, you know, helping thisguy to elude capture, is it worth
one hundred thousand dollar award? Orcould that person even collect one hundred thousand
if they were complicit or helping himwith his escape? Don't know, And
there was there are a lot ofquestions out there. Why, how,
by the way, did a guywho was in the country illegally get his
hands on an R fifteen assault stylerifle. That's a big question. Okay,
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So that is a big question.And you were talking about this is
a guy who's been deported to Mexicofour times and he gets right back in.
I thought it was interesting that heonly went twenty miles from his home.
I thought for sure he'd end upback in Mexico where it would be
more difficult to find him. Well, getting to Mexico would have been a
bit of a stretch. It's youknow, people think of taxes. Okay,
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Well, Houston must be right acrossthe river or right right next to
Mexico, the nearest point from Houston, and this happened. The shooting was
near Houston. The nearest point fromHouston's about three hundred and fifty miles.
Oh okay. So it's not asthough he could be or rather something easily.
Um so. And by the way, we were told that there was
initial sighting of him not too longafter the shooting. I guess it was
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Monday that police saw somebody running througha neighborhood. They locked down the schools.
This person got away. Initially,it was reported that was well as
a false alarm that probably wasn't him. Turned out it that was him,
that was Francisco or a Pesa.That who was running away from that neighborhood.
That's incredible and that why why wasthat discounted or why wasn't that tip
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taken? Seriously? You know,I kind of think that the investigators have
been maybe manipulating things a bit.You know, if they if they want
to keep or Apesa in the area, if they don't want to gem off,
I see, I see, theymight say something land it was probably
a false report, false alarm,don't worry about everybody, Go back to
your business. And they know fullwell that he's close. Interesting, so
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that he goes who they don't knowthat I'm here, right, But then
they are closing in on him asthat happens. There's my Lifetime movie portion.
I love that, the closing inidea. Okay, so from here,
where do we go? Well,he's sitting in jail now. He's
looking at five likely charges of capitalmurder that'll be up to the district attorney
in the grand jury to decide,and that'll happen fairly quickly. He's on
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five. He's in a five milliondollar bond situation right now, five million
dollars. So the chances that he'sgetting out of jail before he stands trial,
before anything else happens, those chancesare slim to none. So I
mean, I suspect he's going tobe behind bars the rest of his life
at this point. Well, theguy, I mean, the guy's a
freaking flight risk. He's been backand forth across the border four times for
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God's sakes. Yeah, right,he's the poster child for flight risk.
So yeah, he's not going anywhereall right, Jim, I enjoy our
chats so much. I hope youknow that. It's fun. It's I
like it. You're easy to talkto. Wow, thank you, this
is why we're friends. Ye seeyou later, Jim bye. ABC's Jim
Ryan. I love talking to him. He's one of my favorite reporters.
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Just say, let's get back tosome of these stories coming out of the
KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Ooh, remember the seven people in Oklahoma that
were killed by a registered sex offender. The family members of those people who
were killed say the man was acontrolling liar. Those were their words.
The bodies that were found Monday,including those two missing teenage girls, the
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killer, his wife, her threeteenagers. The wife's mom says the family
didn't learn about her son in law'scriminal history until a few months ago.
She says he lied to her daughterand convinced her it was all just a
huge mistake. The mother in lawsays the man was standoffish, quiet and
kept the family under lock and key. See. Not that I know a
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lot of people in jail or prisonor whatever, but I've known a couple,
and you know, what I've alwaysfound is interesting. The people that
I've known are very forthcoming with like, well I got caught. It's the
ones where they go, this wasall a mistake. I'm innocent, And
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unless they have something really good toshow or to prove their innocence, I'm
gonna guess they're a liar. Anyway. I know you're thinking, well,
how does she know? I haveexperienced with knowing people in prison, Thank
you very much. A lawyer forformer President Trump has told a judge in
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New York that Trump will not testifyin that defamation lawsuit over an alleged rape.
It was author E Jane Carroll whoclaims that she was raped by Trump
in nineteen ninety six. Ever sincethis trial started, it had been something
of a mystery whether Trump would actuallyshow up here to testify in his own
defense. His attorney said he willnot. It spares Trump from what would
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no doubt be a rigorous crossing samination. ABC's Erin Katurski says Trump has denied
Carol's allegations. Trump's lawyer questioned whythe woman never reported the alleged rape until
she wrote a book. She saidher generation was taught to keep their chins
up and not complain. Seniors haveprotested the Huntington Beach City Council's plan to
oppose an Assembly bill that CAP's mobilehome rent increases at five percent. Mobile
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homeowner Terry Williams says some seniors onfixed incomes are getting seventeen percent rent increases
twice a year. You can rentan apartment now in Huntington Beach where the
rental prices are sky high, forthe same as we pay for space rent.
William says it's a slap in theface for the council to ignore requests
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for how from rent gouging and thenoppose a state bill that could help Huntington
Beach decided to table the opposition latelast night when it was discovered the bill
is still on hold until January.Anyway, The LA School District says it's
going to buy one hundred eighty electricschool buses and chargers for the Sun Valley
Bus Yard, which provides transportation forforty six hundred students each day. Now,
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most buses at the yard now runon compress natural gas buses, I
guess, along with some of thepropane fueled vehicles. The district says it
hopes to reduce its carbon footprint bytwenty twenty six. This one makes me
sad, although I would fit rightinto this next story. Test scores in
history and Civics have declined slightly foreighth graders in the US. The scores
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from the National Assessment of Educational Progressshow an increasing number of kids lack of
basic understanding of either subject. Thesame assessment reported in October that every single
state had seen a decline in mathor reading scores amid the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Officials said the latest scores reflect moreof the impact of disruptions from the
virus that shuttered schools across the country. The results show nearly one third of
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eighth grade students, thirty one percentcan't describe the structure or function of government.
Mark Ronner K if I knew,Hey, that is what drives me
crazy. I gotta admit I was. Yes, I was in honors programs
in English and history when I wasin high school. I know it's a
shock to most of you, butI, especially in my English class,
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I don't feel like I really gotnot much out of it. The history
class I did not pay attention to. But I was one of those kids
who could kind of always guess theright answer, you know, like,
oh, I'm sure this is it. So I got through that class.
But now looking back, oh mygosh, do I wish I had paid
attention more, just because as Tyler, he just whispered in my ear.
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Which is what my point was goingto be, that history is repeating itself
in so many ways, and ifwe could look back at history that we've
sort of erased up to this point, we might see how not to repeat
it again. But if we don'tpay attention to it, don't learn civics
specifically, which I really wish i'dpaid attention to, Otherwise I wouldn't have
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had to give myself a crash coursein it when I got into news.
But maybe some of the things thatwe're going, Holy cow, this is
history repeating itself. Wouldn't if wehad the knowledge or if we were paying
attention back in our classes. Offmy soapbox. Now. This is KFI
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