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April 23, 2025 73 mins

Why does it so often feel like the more society claims to value a job, the slimier it is? Why are so many brilliant minds funneled into the tech industry, only to spend their days optimizing ad clicks instead of solving real societal problems? What if jobs were desirable not because of how much money they pull in, but because they made the world better a better place? Today, Adam sits down with Dutch historian Rutger Bregman—author of MORAL AMBITION: Stop Wasting Your Talent and Start Making a Difference—to explore how we can rethink work, purpose, and the pursuit of impact. Find Rutger's book at factuallypod.com/books

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