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February 21, 2025 103 mins
Биолог и борец с лженаукой Александр Панчин — гость нового выпуска, в котором мы обсудим клонирование. Это наше ближайшее будущее или нет? Сможем ли мы клонировать отдельные части тела, органы и выращивать клонов без головы? какие последствия могут быть после создания клонов известных личностей, поможет ли клонирование в омоложении людей и какая морально-этическая сторона этого вопроса Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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