June 6, 2024 • 16 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason pine for Thursday 6 June 2024, Brad Walter out of NRL.com talks about 'that' tackle to Reece Walsh in last nights State Of Origin opener - Was it worthy of a send off and do rugby actually have the 20 minute red card right?
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome into a fresh episode of the Sports
Fixed podcast. Oh hello, Darcy, late's meeting you in here.
Normally Darcy and I are in different cities. Today we
are within close proximity of one another. It is June
the sixth for the podcast today, the sixth of the sixth.
What have we got coming up?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Dars?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And we want to kick around a bit of State
of Origin, a bit of rugby re signing, and some NBA.
But what about an interview? What have you got for
us today?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Well, Brad Walter joins us. He's a former City Morning
Herald writer now works as a writer for the NRL.
As we look back at what happened last night with
that incident around the red card, which for all intents
and purposes destroyed the game, does something need to change
in the NRL around that? So we'll tap up with
Brad around there. I'm going to lay some a peace
(01:08):
on you too. This opinion is about that exact thing,
the red code. I think maybe, just maybe Jason that
Super Rugby have actually got a pace across NRL and
they're actually groundbreaking in a place that maybe the NRL
should look at.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What do you reckon look looking forward to hearing your thoughts,
I'll tell you that. Let's get into it. In other news,
let's start, as always with some of the big sports
stories around today. Cody Taylor and Scott Barrett have extended
their New Zealand rugby contracts until the end of twenty
twenty seven. Barrett part of the twenty twenty three All
Black squad that lost to South Africa in the final,
(01:43):
as well as the third place side from twenty nineteen.
So he's pretty driven.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
A lot of pain for the last couple of World
Cups personally, you know, Scars, I guess it probably won't
go away, and that's a big driver to give myself
the opportunity to go to another World Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Queensland fallback g reecee Walsh up and about with seemingly
no ill effects the day after he was knocked out
cold in the State of Origin opener. You got me
flush on the chena, I think, so it's all part
of the game.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So he was a good hit and it's going to
keep rolling the punches.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And Alexander's Veriev through to the semi finals of the
French Tennis Open, beating Ossie alex d Maneuver in straight sets.
So stay calm.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I knew that the conditions today are extremely difficult to.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
To head winners, and I knew that it has to
go a long way sometimes, and that's what I did
in the time break leading a vix.
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Speaker 3 (02:35):
We'll join now by Brad Walter from the NRL. As
we look back at well, I suppose Brad, you'd call
it a fiery encounter and state of Origin a number one.
The tone was set pretty early on on the piece
made it very hard for New South Wales to climb
back into the fixture. Here, welcome to the show. Tough one, huh.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Made it was? You know, the thing about state of
Origin is you don't know what's going to happen, but
you know that something, something dramatic, is going to happen
in every game. And yeah, nobody, I don't think anyone
was expecting to send off, and certainly for Joe Soali
to be sent off in the only the eighth minute
of the match, leaving New South Wales with twelve to
(03:16):
battle on with twelve men for seventy two minutes. But
that's what happened and it was fascinating to watch. Even
though the score, the final score line is probably what
most people expected after the sendoff, but for the majority
of the game, it was a real contest and it
was gripping and it was entertaining and I think New
(03:38):
South Wales can take a lot out of that performance
in terms of confidence going down to Melbourne for game too.
But I also think Queensland would sit there and be
thinking they've got a lot of improvement in them.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
When you look back at that event, and I suppose
people would have been commenting on it today over in Australia.
What's the general consensus about that decision to walk Joseph.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think most people, most people would agree that the referee,
the match officials had little option but to see him off.
It was a clear case of you know, of a
high shot Joseph, like you know he shot, he shot
in to try and obviously charged him to try and
(04:21):
put pressure on on Reecee Walsh and he just just
went horribly wrong for him and he hit him high
and you know, Reese Walsh was not was not in
a good way. And I don't think really that there
was any other option in this day and age, but
but to send him off. But it certainly you know
that the atmosphere at the ground was was electric. It
(04:43):
was it was fantastic, to be honest, for from a
New South Last point of view, the crowd was really
behind the team. It was a real buzz and like
and they were allowed and they were cheering and the
sort of it was like the air went out of
the balloon at that moment because I think everybody realized, well,
it's almost impossible to win a State of Roger match
with twelve players.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
As far as the red cards considers, take your back
to that. There's a situation and Super Rugby where there
is a twenty minute red card, you lose a player
for twenty then you can replace them. Taking into account
what that red card did to the game, is there
any thought around introducing something similar in the NRL brand.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, there was a little bit of talk about, you know,
what can be done because that obviously, you know, you
could say that decision ruined the game. And I don't
mean the decision by the referee. I probably mean the
decision you're just the whole you know, the impact of that.
But the game, the game was effectively ruined by the sendoff.
(05:44):
So yeah, you could you know, there was a lot
of people talking about, you know, yeah, what could could
you maybe replace the player after ten minutes, you know,
send on a replacement obviously not the same player, or
are there things that can be done? But you know,
this doesn't happen very often. And then I suppose the
other point is like you need to punish for our
(06:06):
play and and and you want to discourage it. And
like certainly everyone's going to be on their best behavior
in Origin Too and other big games because they've seen
the impact that that can happen if you just you know,
if you if you push up too hard, if you
go into you know, too fast and too hard, and
(06:26):
it goes it goes wrong. You know, the margin for
error basically in the way that soali approach that tackle,
the margin for error is very very low, and there's
a high price to be paid. And you know, and
we want to you know, in this day and age, particularly,
a lot of talk about concussion and you know, player welfare.
(06:47):
We want to eradicate those type of incidents from the game.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Too. Yeah, Like I mean Resforsh was gone, Queensland lost
Ree Walsh, you know, one of these star players. So
I don't know, I think it'd be a really really
big call. Need a hell a lot of thought around it,
Like would it actually encourage you know, foul play in
some ways as well if you knew that you could
take a start. I'm not necessarily saying that happened last night,
(07:14):
but like in I don't know, a Grand Final or
a big gun all that, if you could take a
star player out of the match and the penalty was
that you had to play defend a man down for
twenty minutes, but then you were back to full strength.
They had lost their best player and you had a
you know, a good replacement on the bench or who
(07:34):
could comeboard. And I'm not sure, but these are the
sort of issues that would need to be considered and
discussed before any any change like that would be made.
I mean, that's a massive change.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Skullduggery in the NRL. We would never have read about it.
Looking forward to State of Who too in Melbourne of
course then the New South Wales if they wouldn't have
got to go up north of the border and try
and seal the series off. Good luck with that one,
Brad Wild. We're out of the NRL. As always, thanks
for your time and your expertise.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Great chalking to you, Darcy, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
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Speaker 3 (08:10):
Evy, Let's talk the ruination of red cards in football matches.
I think there's one space where Super Rugby have actually
got it up and ahead of the NRL. I know
that sounds strange, but I believe it is true. Granted,
we don't see many cases of NRL players being sent
(08:30):
off for high tackles or any reason whatsoever. It's much
more of a free for all. But if you take
last night, for example, when so Eally got sent off
after that sickening head high on Reees Walsh, basically all
of the air, all of the option, all of the
energy when out of the stadium, when the crowd, the throngs,
the enthusiasm within that New South Wales crowd, We're building
(08:53):
to be quite an extraordinary fixture. Suddenly eight ten minutes
in that is all over. As the crowd realized that
New South Wales we're facing one hallahala uphild battle to
try and top Queensland. So in this situation would it
be fair and right for a twenty minute red card.
(09:13):
I think if you look at the way the New
South Wales Blues responded to that sending off of Suelli,
that it would have been a magnificent, a magic last
half or second half if they had got to add
another player to even it up. And I think in
rugby league, when you've got thirteen on twelve, the gaps
there are outrageous, and we saw the way that Queensland
(09:36):
managed to pry open the biggest gaps that were there
and dominate New South Wales, who were well, they were
quite fantastic. They were looking down the barrel of a gun,
but they stood up. But eventually it was just too late.
Whether it should have been a red card or not.
While you look at the state of Reese Walsh after that,
lying on the ground of his arm twitching, you think, well,
(09:57):
probably should Sully he didn't look. He turned around, Reece
Walsh slipped bang straight into the shoulder. I suppose in
Super rugby they'd say mitigating so instances and they wouldn't
send him off. But the responsibility is on the tackler,
not on the tack lee. So I'd say with clearly
he deserved that red card, he deserved the sending off.
(10:20):
But did the crowd really deserve the energy to be
stolen from that game like it was? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The chamber is now in session on sports vex.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's time for us to settle into the chamber where
we kick around some of the sporting issues of the day.
State of origin. We've already heard from Brad Walter, We've
heard your opinion. Look, I'm not actually sure what was
going through well, I know it was going through the
mind of Rhece Walsh somebody else. Yeah, just you said
at the start of the podcast today it ruined the game.
(10:54):
It always has been a bit of a Vexed issue
whether a team should be punished for a major indiscretion
from one of their players at the expense of an
even contest. For the thousands who have turned up and
paid to thirteen on thirteen.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What's more important here? Is it the eyeballs? We talk
about fan centric the big buzzword right now? Why are
they there? Why are they performing, who is it for?
What's the point? Answer me that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's the fan. You have to put the fan at
the center of everything. So what is the right thing
to do here? Das when there isn't indiscretion like that?
Does anybody disagree with the red card?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't think so. I think with Suelly though he
turned away and look, Reese slipped out, But the emphasis
has got to be on the tackler, not the tack lee.
So he should have been looking. He could have dipped.
So I don't think there's any argument there.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So yeah, so at a four week band subsequent so
obviously the judiciary agrees. So okay, so you lose a
guy after eight minutes. What how then do you keep
the fan at the center of your thinking but also
punish the side for as I said before, a major indiscretion.
It is a balancing act. And I'm not quite sure
what the answer is unless, as you've just said, you
(12:05):
make sure that the fan is a fan. Is it
the center of your cushion?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
What's wrong with what super Rugby do with the twenty minutes?
Or you're off for twenty then you can replace it.
So you get punished losing twenty minutes and affects you,
especially like origin, especially when it's twelve one thirty. That
is punishment, but then you have refreshed new excitement. You
look at what New South Wales did. They actually came
out at the start of that second forty and look
(12:31):
the business. So maybe a lifeline to them. I'm listening
now because all the Queensland fans are going it's fine,
there's nothing wrong with it. On fan centric it's all good.
It worked out well. But I think they've stolen a
march the Super Rugby and maybe all those Brad pointed
out they don't happen much red cards because they're pretty
less affair about violence on the park, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I think you're right, But I also think that, yeah,
that I like the twenty minute red card and Super Rugby.
We'll finish by saying that I think it's a good
idea and I think it does both things that we've
talked about. Punishes the team that have had a plier
do something really bad, but also make sure that the
fan stays at the center of it. Now, speaking of rugby,
a couple of fairly prominent All Blacks, Cody Taylor, Scott
(13:13):
Barrett have recommitted to beyond the next Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Good signings. Yeah, fantastic experience. You know what Scooter Scott
Barrett brings to the program and he is growing into
his boots. Is one of the preminent locks in world rugby.
We need this, I want to say, we the all
blacks need this.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
When I might lock no retallic anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I see what a great pairing they were too.
So Barrett, I think, and along with his leadership of abilities,
as long as he can keep a lid on his temper,
he should be fine. It's good develops. Taylor has been
around for longer than I can remember. But the import
of having a character who understands what it takes at
that high level and to drive those standards up from
(13:54):
that position, someone that the younger kids can look at
and go, I need to be like that night.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Cody Taylor. He's I'm just trying to think of the
right adjective. He's an absolute survivor but also rates at
a very high level. I remember when Summer Sawny Takiajo
first came onto the scene and we thought, wow, look
at this guy. He is amazing. He's powerful, he runs
with the ball. He's off the back of a scrum
scoring tries, but he's not as consistent as Cody Taylor.
(14:22):
Usufer a more very similar kind of player, a guy
who's going to stand out on the loose, but also
sometimes has the tendency to throw crooked into a lineup.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Do no ways say about hookers your roles? What is
your core role as a hooker?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well you set peace right. Yeah, the other stuff is
window dressing. Yes it's spectacular, and yes it's valuable. But
I think Cody Taylor has shown over a long long
All Blacks and Crusaders career just how consistently excellent he is.
So yeah, good piece of business here for New Zealand
Rugby and Scott Barred. I mean, I fully expect him
to be named All Blacks captain in a couple of
weeks and we'll probably lead that side, all things being equal.
(14:57):
Knock on Wood to the to the Rugby World Cup
in twenty twenty seven NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You keeps it was four Mica, not Wood. You've just
cursed us all.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's the new news NBA Playoffs. You No, I'm not
really from what I can gather. Boston Celtics the boringest
team in the NBA and have been for a number
of years. But they're going to just basically bore their
way to a final and to a title. If that
is the case basketball fans out there, and I am
speaking the truth from what I've read because I haven't
watched a great deal of it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Who cares how boring you are? You want a title?
Be as boring as you want. Member Steve Davis, I
it's mister interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yes, he bored his way to a number of snooker titles,
didn't he. And I get the feeling. You're right, the
Boston Celtics may well do exactly the same thing. That
is the chamber for today. Another edition coming your way
on the Sports Fixed podcast tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome into a fresh episode of the Sports
Fixed podcast. Oh hello, Darcy, late's meeting you in here.
Normally Darcy and I are in different cities. Today we
are within close proximity of one another. It is June
the sixth for the podcast today, the sixth of the sixth.
What have we got coming up?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Dars?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And we want to kick around a bit of State
of Origin, a bit of rugby re signing, and some NBA.
But what about an interview? What have you got for
us today?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Well, Brad Walter joins us. He's a former City Morning
Herald writer now works as a writer for the NRL.
As we look back at what happened last night with
that incident around the red card, which for all intents
and purposes destroyed the game, does something need to change
in the NRL around that? So we'll tap up with
Brad around there. I'm going to lay some a peace
(01:08):
on you too. This opinion is about that exact thing,
the red code. I think maybe, just maybe Jason that
Super Rugby have actually got a pace across NRL and
they're actually groundbreaking in a place that maybe the NRL
should look at.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What do you reckon look looking forward to hearing your thoughts,
I'll tell you that. Let's get into it. In other news,
let's start, as always with some of the big sports
stories around today. Cody Taylor and Scott Barrett have extended
their New Zealand rugby contracts until the end of twenty
twenty seven. Barrett part of the twenty twenty three All
Black squad that lost to South Africa in the final,
(01:43):
as well as the third place side from twenty nineteen.
So he's pretty driven.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
A lot of pain for the last couple of World
Cups personally, you know, Scars, I guess it probably won't
go away, and that's a big driver to give myself
the opportunity to go to another World Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Queensland fallback g reecee Walsh up and about with seemingly
no ill effects the day after he was knocked out
cold in the State of Origin opener. You got me
flush on the chena, I think, so it's all part
of the game.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So he was a good hit and it's going to
keep rolling the punches.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And Alexander's Veriev through to the semi finals of the
French Tennis Open, beating Ossie alex d Maneuver in straight sets.
So stay calm.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I knew that the conditions today are extremely difficult to.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
To head winners, and I knew that it has to
go a long way sometimes, and that's what I did
in the time break leading a vix.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Fix powered by
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Speaker 3 (02:35):
We'll join now by Brad Walter from the NRL. As
we look back at well, I suppose Brad, you'd call
it a fiery encounter and state of Origin a number one.
The tone was set pretty early on on the piece
made it very hard for New South Wales to climb
back into the fixture. Here, welcome to the show. Tough one, huh.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Made it was? You know, the thing about state of
Origin is you don't know what's going to happen, but
you know that something, something dramatic, is going to happen
in every game. And yeah, nobody, I don't think anyone
was expecting to send off, and certainly for Joe Soali
to be sent off in the only the eighth minute
of the match, leaving New South Wales with twelve to
(03:16):
battle on with twelve men for seventy two minutes. But
that's what happened and it was fascinating to watch. Even
though the score, the final score line is probably what
most people expected after the sendoff, but for the majority
of the game, it was a real contest and it
was gripping and it was entertaining and I think New
(03:38):
South Wales can take a lot out of that performance
in terms of confidence going down to Melbourne for game too.
But I also think Queensland would sit there and be
thinking they've got a lot of improvement in them.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
When you look back at that event, and I suppose
people would have been commenting on it today over in Australia.
What's the general consensus about that decision to walk Joseph.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think most people, most people would agree that the referee,
the match officials had little option but to see him off.
It was a clear case of you know, of a
high shot Joseph, like you know he shot, he shot
in to try and obviously charged him to try and
(04:21):
put pressure on on Reecee Walsh and he just just
went horribly wrong for him and he hit him high
and you know, Reese Walsh was not was not in
a good way. And I don't think really that there
was any other option in this day and age, but
but to send him off. But it certainly you know
that the atmosphere at the ground was was electric. It
(04:43):
was it was fantastic, to be honest, for from a
New South Last point of view, the crowd was really
behind the team. It was a real buzz and like
and they were allowed and they were cheering and the
sort of it was like the air went out of
the balloon at that moment because I think everybody realized, well,
it's almost impossible to win a State of Roger match
with twelve players.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
As far as the red cards considers, take your back
to that. There's a situation and Super Rugby where there
is a twenty minute red card, you lose a player
for twenty then you can replace them. Taking into account
what that red card did to the game, is there
any thought around introducing something similar in the NRL brand.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, there was a little bit of talk about, you know,
what can be done because that obviously, you know, you
could say that decision ruined the game. And I don't
mean the decision by the referee. I probably mean the
decision you're just the whole you know, the impact of that.
But the game, the game was effectively ruined by the sendoff.
(05:44):
So yeah, you could you know, there was a lot
of people talking about, you know, yeah, what could could
you maybe replace the player after ten minutes, you know,
send on a replacement obviously not the same player, or
are there things that can be done? But you know,
this doesn't happen very often. And then I suppose the
other point is like you need to punish for our
(06:06):
play and and and you want to discourage it. And
like certainly everyone's going to be on their best behavior
in Origin Too and other big games because they've seen
the impact that that can happen if you just you know,
if you if you push up too hard, if you
go into you know, too fast and too hard, and
(06:26):
it goes it goes wrong. You know, the margin for
error basically in the way that soali approach that tackle,
the margin for error is very very low, and there's
a high price to be paid. And you know, and
we want to you know, in this day and age, particularly,
a lot of talk about concussion and you know, player welfare.
(06:47):
We want to eradicate those type of incidents from the game.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Too. Yeah, Like I mean Resforsh was gone, Queensland lost
Ree Walsh, you know, one of these star players. So
I don't know, I think it'd be a really really
big call. Need a hell a lot of thought around it,
Like would it actually encourage you know, foul play in
some ways as well if you knew that you could
take a start. I'm not necessarily saying that happened last night,
(07:14):
but like in I don't know, a Grand Final or
a big gun all that, if you could take a
star player out of the match and the penalty was
that you had to play defend a man down for
twenty minutes, but then you were back to full strength.
They had lost their best player and you had a
you know, a good replacement on the bench or who
(07:34):
could comeboard. And I'm not sure, but these are the
sort of issues that would need to be considered and
discussed before any any change like that would be made.
I mean, that's a massive change.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Skullduggery in the NRL. We would never have read about it.
Looking forward to State of Who too in Melbourne of
course then the New South Wales if they wouldn't have
got to go up north of the border and try
and seal the series off. Good luck with that one,
Brad Wild. We're out of the NRL. As always, thanks
for your time and your expertise.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Great chalking to you, Darcy, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This is Sports Fix. Your daily does have sports you
Who's news talks.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Evy, Let's talk the ruination of red cards in football matches.
I think there's one space where Super Rugby have actually
got it up and ahead of the NRL. I know
that sounds strange, but I believe it is true. Granted,
we don't see many cases of NRL players being sent
(08:30):
off for high tackles or any reason whatsoever. It's much
more of a free for all. But if you take
last night, for example, when so Eally got sent off
after that sickening head high on Reees Walsh, basically all
of the air, all of the option, all of the
energy when out of the stadium, when the crowd, the throngs,
the enthusiasm within that New South Wales crowd, We're building
(08:53):
to be quite an extraordinary fixture. Suddenly eight ten minutes
in that is all over. As the crowd realized that
New South Wales we're facing one hallahala uphild battle to
try and top Queensland. So in this situation would it
be fair and right for a twenty minute red card.
(09:13):
I think if you look at the way the New
South Wales Blues responded to that sending off of Suelli,
that it would have been a magnificent, a magic last
half or second half if they had got to add
another player to even it up. And I think in
rugby league, when you've got thirteen on twelve, the gaps
there are outrageous, and we saw the way that Queensland
(09:36):
managed to pry open the biggest gaps that were there
and dominate New South Wales, who were well, they were
quite fantastic. They were looking down the barrel of a gun,
but they stood up. But eventually it was just too late.
Whether it should have been a red card or not.
While you look at the state of Reese Walsh after that,
lying on the ground of his arm twitching, you think, well,
(09:57):
probably should Sully he didn't look. He turned around, Reece
Walsh slipped bang straight into the shoulder. I suppose in
Super rugby they'd say mitigating so instances and they wouldn't
send him off. But the responsibility is on the tackler,
not on the tack lee. So I'd say with clearly
he deserved that red card, he deserved the sending off.
(10:20):
But did the crowd really deserve the energy to be
stolen from that game like it was? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The chamber is now in session on sports vex.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's time for us to settle into the chamber where
we kick around some of the sporting issues of the day.
State of origin. We've already heard from Brad Walter, We've
heard your opinion. Look, I'm not actually sure what was
going through well, I know it was going through the
mind of Rhece Walsh somebody else. Yeah, just you said
at the start of the podcast today it ruined the game.
(10:54):
It always has been a bit of a Vexed issue
whether a team should be punished for a major indiscretion
from one of their players at the expense of an
even contest. For the thousands who have turned up and
paid to thirteen on thirteen.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What's more important here? Is it the eyeballs? We talk
about fan centric the big buzzword right now? Why are
they there? Why are they performing, who is it for?
What's the point? Answer me that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's the fan. You have to put the fan at
the center of everything. So what is the right thing
to do here? Das when there isn't indiscretion like that?
Does anybody disagree with the red card?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't think so. I think with Suelly though he
turned away and look, Reese slipped out, But the emphasis
has got to be on the tackler, not the tack lee.
So he should have been looking. He could have dipped.
So I don't think there's any argument there.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So yeah, so at a four week band subsequent so
obviously the judiciary agrees. So okay, so you lose a
guy after eight minutes. What how then do you keep
the fan at the center of your thinking but also
punish the side for as I said before, a major indiscretion.
It is a balancing act. And I'm not quite sure
what the answer is unless, as you've just said, you
(12:05):
make sure that the fan is a fan. Is it
the center of your cushion?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
What's wrong with what super Rugby do with the twenty minutes?
Or you're off for twenty then you can replace it.
So you get punished losing twenty minutes and affects you,
especially like origin, especially when it's twelve one thirty. That
is punishment, but then you have refreshed new excitement. You
look at what New South Wales did. They actually came
out at the start of that second forty and look
(12:31):
the business. So maybe a lifeline to them. I'm listening
now because all the Queensland fans are going it's fine,
there's nothing wrong with it. On fan centric it's all good.
It worked out well. But I think they've stolen a
march the Super Rugby and maybe all those Brad pointed
out they don't happen much red cards because they're pretty
less affair about violence on the park, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I think you're right, But I also think that, yeah,
that I like the twenty minute red card and Super Rugby.
We'll finish by saying that I think it's a good
idea and I think it does both things that we've
talked about. Punishes the team that have had a plier
do something really bad, but also make sure that the
fan stays at the center of it. Now, speaking of rugby,
a couple of fairly prominent All Blacks, Cody Taylor, Scott
(13:13):
Barrett have recommitted to beyond the next Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Good signings. Yeah, fantastic experience. You know what Scooter Scott
Barrett brings to the program and he is growing into
his boots. Is one of the preminent locks in world rugby.
We need this, I want to say, we the all
blacks need this.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
When I might lock no retallic anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I see what a great pairing they were too.
So Barrett, I think, and along with his leadership of abilities,
as long as he can keep a lid on his temper,
he should be fine. It's good develops. Taylor has been
around for longer than I can remember. But the import
of having a character who understands what it takes at
that high level and to drive those standards up from
(13:54):
that position, someone that the younger kids can look at
and go, I need to be like that night.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Cody Taylor. He's I'm just trying to think of the
right adjective. He's an absolute survivor but also rates at
a very high level. I remember when Summer Sawny Takiajo
first came onto the scene and we thought, wow, look
at this guy. He is amazing. He's powerful, he runs
with the ball. He's off the back of a scrum
scoring tries, but he's not as consistent as Cody Taylor.
(14:22):
Usufer a more very similar kind of player, a guy
who's going to stand out on the loose, but also
sometimes has the tendency to throw crooked into a lineup.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Do no ways say about hookers your roles? What is
your core role as a hooker?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well you set peace right. Yeah, the other stuff is
window dressing. Yes it's spectacular, and yes it's valuable. But
I think Cody Taylor has shown over a long long
All Blacks and Crusaders career just how consistently excellent he is.
So yeah, good piece of business here for New Zealand
Rugby and Scott Barred. I mean, I fully expect him
to be named All Blacks captain in a couple of
weeks and we'll probably lead that side, all things being equal.
(14:57):
Knock on Wood to the to the Rugby World Cup
in twenty twenty seven NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You keeps it was four Mica, not Wood. You've just
cursed us all.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's the new news NBA Playoffs. You No, I'm not
really from what I can gather. Boston Celtics the boringest
team in the NBA and have been for a number
of years. But they're going to just basically bore their
way to a final and to a title. If that
is the case basketball fans out there, and I am
speaking the truth from what I've read because I haven't
watched a great deal of it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Who cares how boring you are? You want a title?
Be as boring as you want. Member Steve Davis, I
it's mister interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yes, he bored his way to a number of snooker titles,
didn't he. And I get the feeling. You're right, the
Boston Celtics may well do exactly the same thing. That
is the chamber for today. Another edition coming your way
on the Sports Fixed podcast tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Pain and Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That is us indeed for another Sports Fix episode for
June six. Make sure you subscribe to Sports Fix and
a fresh episode will drop into your podcast feed just
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
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