June 11, 2024 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Tuesday 11 June 2024, Former Warrior Sione Faumuina talks about the clubs selection headache with the return of Shaun Johnson this weekend - should they pick based on 'form' or 'fame'?
D'Arcy also comments on what an earth is going wrong with the Black Caps at the World Cup?
Plus, Newstalk ZB Sports News Director Clay Wilson joins the panel to discuss the eyewatering amount of money Auckland is set to lose without the America's Cup.
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We're gonna be talking with SIONI Farmwina remember him. He
was a center come back roller back in the Halcyon
(00:44):
days of the Wars. They were known as the Warriors
there under Daniel Anderson. We'll talk to him about here's
your concept fame the form. We'll dig into that later
on in the piece. I've got a need to tory
you about the We can only call it a train wreck,
can't you? On Saturday at the T twenty World Cup,
as Afghanistan wiped the floor of this it was ugly.
(01:05):
And then we'll be joined in studio as part of
the chamber Bye Clay Wilson's EB Sports director, as we
look at, among other things, the huge loss that New
Zealand will have by not hosting the America's Cup. That's
not our fault, by the bye. And that's all still
to come here on the Sports Fix, let's get into it.
(01:26):
In other news, Let's say, well we listen to what
happened in sport today. Starting Blues assistant coach Paul Tental,
he's touting the leadership development of Dalton papale W will
step up to cat and Friday Super Rugby semi final
against the Brumbies at Eton Park. The usual skipper Paddy
two upset Patrick two blow to his Super season is
(01:47):
over due to a knee injury.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I feel this year Adults is really lead by actions
and he's playing some of his best footy. So you know,
when you're playing like that, leading's easy. Former Black Caps
cricket coach Mike Hesson has outlined the magnitude of New
Zealand's plight at the T twenty World Cup. They play
host the West Indies in Trinidad on Thursday afternoon, and
what shapes what's must when territory isn't it with three
(02:11):
pool games left.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's probably the worst start we could hope for, you know,
not only y's a loss to Afghanistan, which can easily
happen because Afghanistan are a very good side. But I
think the quantity of the loss has left New Zealand
with very few options. That net run rate that would
have taken a heck of a.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Hit and defending champion mystics are searching for answers after
falling to a third consecutive defeat in Nepal's A and
Z Premiership. There's time to the pulse. In Patua, Kada Johnson,
an injury replacement ringing for Petatowiava, describes the impact of
the mid quarter's absence.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You could definitely how that Petter's presence was missed. Having
a few of the girls playing out a position was
an idea of our attacking connections. Just won't bet but
hopefully when he's back that will improve.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
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Speaker 2 (03:08):
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warriors Farwena, Welcome to the show. Gee, it's been a
long time mate, how are you.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I'm good mate, Yes, it has been a long time
and how have you been brother.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm very very happy, still on the same job, still
annoying people like I annoyed you just recently to get
you on the air. Thanks for joining us. You were
back and arguably one of the healthy periods of the
New Zealand Warriors under Daniel Anderson. You guys had great success.
You're the team that people wanted to go and see.
This is happening again. Now from what you've seen over
(03:44):
the last year or two, what do you think is
encouraging people back into the wires again.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah, well mate, that's a that's a pretty good assessment. Obviously,
you know, I was part of that Daniel and scenario
when you know, we had a little bit of success.
Obviously didn't win the Grand Final, but we were playing
some really good footy. Fast forward to now, it's it's
almost reminiscent of that time. But I think what's played
a really big part is social media. I think social
(04:13):
media the Warrior is social media has got to be
one of the best in the NRL. Add to that
the performances that the boys have put in, and you know,
across the board as a whole organization, everything just seems
to be jelling and.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Through on the trot with a really underestimated roster at
least be honestly, these aren't the rock stars. These are
the second guys coming through. So in situations like that,
when when guys arerinted and out and the next guys
are coming through, how difficult is that for the coaching
staff to go, hold on, what do we do now?
We have a problem here?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, I think if you look at from the outside,
and that seems to be the case. But I've been
and sort of you know, in the circle, I guess
in the club this year, and that's not the case
from within the club. So they've got to say and
a core that's that they put together during preseason was
(05:13):
next man up. So basically they hammered that home throughout
the whole of preseason, which is like, hey, who's the
next man up? Anything's going to happen in terms of
player personnel. So I think we'reb and the coaching staff
had one hundred percent confidence that when they had that
stream of injuries to the top nine players, they were
fully backing the boys that were coming in to replace it.
(05:34):
And it showed the.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Fire in the bellies of these blokes too. As you
said to be next man up, but to prove a
point up against some very very powerful teams. It says
a lot about the coaching too, and the energy there.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Oh it does, it really does. And I think that's
just another m you know, attribute that that Webbe has brought.
And you know, yeah, the way that those boys stepped
up is nothing short off phenomenal, especially against those top teams.
And a lot of that has to go to we'by
(06:07):
and his coaching staff, but also to the whole club.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'd like to touch on fame the form a team
comes out today, some huge decisions for Andrew Webster. We
look at what Tomighty Martin did last week. We look
at Sean Johnson, the effect that he had on the side.
When you're filtering guys back in again, what do you
look at as far as the effect. I mean, it's
all about next man up. But a guy like Sean
Johnson instrumental, but Timighty Martin has shown how good he is.
(06:33):
That's quite a juggle, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
It is? It is a juggle. But I think there
has to be you know, like you said, I hate
to be in web his shoes, but you know, longevity, uh,
you know, in regards to Sean, Obviously he was instrumental
last year. He's finding a little bit of him this year.
(06:58):
And then you've got other players that are coming back.
You know, I think you've got to go with the
experience and and I guess the top line players that's
the season, give them another crack and then, but also
have the confidence to know that, hey, if you're not performing,
we're more than capable of covering your position. So I
think that's yeah. But mate, I wouldn't have a clue.
(07:21):
If I was a coach, I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't
even know where to begin.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
What what does it think like on the team though, when
you've got a season professional that young guys playing really well,
and then they just dragged this bloke back in again,
does that have a disruptive presence in the team from
what you remember?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Look from what I remember. I know for me, when
I was that young guy that got given a shot.
So my shot came off the back of Ali having
a well, he had an injured operation. He was out
for four months, so I took that as an opportunity.
But you know, I happen to sort of string together
(08:01):
a few good games for these young guys. They've only
you know, put together two or three games, so ideally
that's probably not long enough to cement a first great
spot over the top of our first line players. But
I think it won't cause much disruption because as a
young player you sort of know that, hey man, you
know I'm doing what's best for the team, even though
(08:21):
I may have performed. But you know, our star players
or our first line players, they're back from injury, they
were always going to go back in the team. That's
what that's what first line players are. They get injured,
they come back straight into the team because that's what
they're getting paid to do. But yeah, for me, I
don't think it really is disruptive in the team. It
(08:43):
just pretty much they've put their hand up to say, hey,
here's what I can do when you give me a chance.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's the only film Mowena. It's been so good catching
up after so long, wait to hear you're in a
good space, mate, Thanks for yours, Thanks Ratte.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
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Speaker 1 (08:56):
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Speaker 5 (09:00):
In me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
If I if O. If you don't know what it means,
look it up and yeah, it's a bit sketchy, but
that's the only way you can describe what happened to
the black Caps on Saturday when they go into their
first up game up against the team that really they
knew was going to be something else in Afghanistan, and
they go in without any warm up games, just a
(09:25):
bit of open wicket practice. Plenty of people out there
questioned the intelligence of that move, but it was reiterated
by coaching staff right the way through the lead up
week that it's okay, we know what we're doing. The
boys are tired, they need it to go home. We'll
sort it out when we're playing. Everybody relax. So the
question now is how does the team deal with embarrassment,
(09:49):
deal with the concept, deal with the knowledge, deal with
the proof that they got it horribly horribly wrong out
of form, out of practice. You can't just play around
with your teammates and hope to gain something meaningful out
of that. Ahead of let's face it a must win
MA in the T twenty World Cup. This is not
(10:11):
a bilateral series. This is a World Cup. So in
the team role, horribly underdone. Anyone who saw that game
will know exactly what I'm talking about. Couldn't catch couldn't keep,
couldn't run, couldn't score any runs. Let's not underestimate how
good Afghanistan were. The way they played and how they
(10:32):
played pushed the black Caps into a corner. They could
have pushed their way out, but they simply didn't have
the wherewerf because they were in any form of state
through practice the Walmut matches to do anything about the
assault that they were under from Bangladesh. How well does
this team bounce back up against the West Indies lose this,
(10:54):
it will be one of the most embarrassing moments in
New Zealand cricket's history. And let's face it, they've had plenty.
But these guys, these are good cricketers. These guys understand
what's on their plate right now. They understand what they
have to do. And now they've been punched in the
face by Afghanistan and slapped around by the media and
(11:14):
fans after that appalling showing, I fully expect them to
stand up and show us why this is a perennial
semi final team in all cricketing competitions. Black Caps get
in there and prove the doubt is wrong. Uifad and
you fo, let's not do that again.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
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Speaker 6 (11:51):
Thanks to us Alwa's good to be in here.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Nice that Savo wee chat about the big stories of
the day. Vinicius, that is the big one. Valentthia fans
who basically insulted the bloke. They've been convicted and chucked
in prison for racist abuse over in France. This is
a game changer, I'm presum or is it not? Well?
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think these incidents have been happening for a long
time now in sport right where fans have been abusing
players on all kinds of levels. But quite often we
hear when it comes through that it's on a racist level,
and they get ground bands, they might get a fine,
and we're all clamoring here sitting here saying people like
this should be punished more severely. But this is the
(12:31):
first time to see some country or a body take
action like this and actually send people to prison. I mean,
I guess in terms of what they said, I'm not
exactly sure, but it must.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Be pretty to be fairly strong to do that exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
If you're talking about eight nine months in prison, it
has to be fairly fairly strong. And I just think
if nothing else this is it sends a signal.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Right.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Quite often these kind of sentences are about setting a
precedent and sending a signal to people who thinking about
doing this kind of thing in the future that hey,
if I if I do go to the game and
I think I'm going to be cheeky and rude and racist,
then you might find yourself behind bars. It makes you
think about it doing it a second time, doesn't it
so be abusive.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I think the big thing here is that this kind
of abuse is normalized in football matches. You hear it
all the time, especially over in Europe. So the football
now can say what I want. No one's going to care. Well,
they're listening and they can now. So you're right shot
across the bows. They stand on someone's toe and the
government will the authorities will basically break your leg, so
(13:37):
be warned.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
It'll be interesting to see what sort of impact this
has on other countries. We've heard quite a few cases
out of England. Obviously the EPL is a massive league,
but also other big leagues in Europe where this has happened.
So I wonder if this will perhaps maybe open up
for some other scenarios and other countries where other countries
(14:01):
decide that they're going to put people, you know, other courts,
judges decide that they're going to put people in prison
if they're going to take it too far in terms
of what they're hurling at players.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And acceptable America's Cup. Barcelona on track to hit well
a huge positive score. They're talking two billion dollars for
hosting and holding the America's Cup, which by rights should
have been here because last time I checked, the thing
about winning the America's Cup is you get to defend
it at home. Isn't that the point?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah? I think as sports fans, when they decided they
were going to take it to Barcelona, we were disappointed
that we couldn't see it here. But then there was
this other big part of it to the side about
what Auckland was missing out on as a city and
this as well. We'll see what happens, but it sounds
like a pretty comprehensive study has been done. That's estimating
(14:50):
this amount of money, and that's a huge amount of money,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
What about the jobs? Money is one thing, but people
an employed.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
It's huge, almost twenty thousand jobs as well. The study
is predicting it's going to create over there. So yes,
Barcelona is a different part of the world. It's in
the center of Europe. There's a lot around you and
I were talking off here that this is the first
time this event's been held in that part of the
world for a very long time. Perhaps that ramps up
the interest and puts that figure higher, but you have
(15:19):
to think if it was here, there was still going
to be a significant economic benefit, and that's you know.
I don't want to get into the stadium debate too
much because last week I feel like that's been dragging
on for years as well. But I kind of look
at that in the same light, and that quite often
we look at the figure of what's it going to
cost to host this event or what infrastructure do we
(15:40):
need to build and what's that going to cost, and
we look at this big number and we say, oh,
and we get scared, not thinking about long term about
what the benefits are to the city, to the country,
in terms of economic benefit, but also jobs and businesses
that's creating. So I think this is a classic case
of if you stump up and you want to host
(16:01):
an event, and you're prepared to fork out to do it,
then the benefits medium to long term benefits can be
quite big.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
A lot of money. Move away to that. Sewn Johnson
coming back from injury straight into the seven Jersey formal
fame Clay, where does it sit?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I think a player like that, you can't not bring
him back. Yes, to Marty Martin has been very good
in these last several weeks while these last three wins
to bring them back. But to Marty Martin is not
Sean Johnson. And the thing with Sean Johnson is, yes,
once upon a time he was a very exciting player
(16:36):
who could do amazing things, but he was constantly criticized
for not being your number seven that controls the game,
that leads the team around the park. In this last
part of his career, since he's come back to the Warriors,
that's exactly what he's turned into. We still get the
flashes of brilliance here and there, but by and large,
what he's become as a player that can really really
(16:57):
manage a good team around the park.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well, the erratic side of his game has dissipated somewhat,
has it not, And some people malign that because they
enjoyed that that unpredictability. I'm not quite sure if the
rest of his team enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
No, no, not, But I think that's in the past
for him, isn't it. And he's just become, you know,
to me, like a top five half back in the
in the NRL. So yes, while the team has been
winning and he hasn't been there, that maybe creates a
few questions about do you bring him straight back in?
But I mean listening to like after the game at
(17:33):
the weekend to who has got asked about it, and
he didn't even hesitate, you know, like they want Shawn Johnson,
the players want and that's to me, that's a ringing
endorsement of a captain and a person a leader like
to who Harris is saying we want him straight back
and then yeah, I don't, I don't. I just don't
think there's a debate. It's just a creates a great problem.
You've got to you've now got to Mardy Martin, who
(17:54):
can also play six, has got great confidence out of
taking the leadership and will now come back into that
number six role, that secondary role, but with much more
confidence when he is called upon to help to play
his part, that he's going to have that confidence to
do it. Then you've got Shawn Johnson as.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
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Thanks so much for joining us here in the chain
with the pleasure was out always a pleasure Dark.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Thank you.
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Hello there, welcome into the Sports Fixed podcast. It is
the eleventh of June twenty twenty four. My name's Darcy
Walter Gray. Brace yourself, Belt yourself in. This is what
we've got coming up for you as part of our
coverage or daily dose of all the good things in sport.
We're gonna be talking with SIONI Farmwina remember him. He
was a center come back roller back in the Halcyon
(00:44):
days of the Wars. They were known as the Warriors
there under Daniel Anderson. We'll talk to him about here's
your concept fame the form. We'll dig into that later
on in the piece. I've got a need to tory
you about the We can only call it a train wreck,
can't you? On Saturday at the T twenty World Cup,
as Afghanistan wiped the floor of this it was ugly.
(01:05):
And then we'll be joined in studio as part of
the chamber Bye Clay Wilson's EB Sports director, as we
look at, among other things, the huge loss that New
Zealand will have by not hosting the America's Cup. That's
not our fault, by the bye. And that's all still
to come here on the Sports Fix, let's get into it.
(01:26):
In other news, Let's say, well we listen to what
happened in sport today. Starting Blues assistant coach Paul Tental,
he's touting the leadership development of Dalton papale W will
step up to cat and Friday Super Rugby semi final
against the Brumbies at Eton Park. The usual skipper Paddy
two upset Patrick two blow to his Super season is
(01:47):
over due to a knee injury.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I feel this year Adults is really lead by actions
and he's playing some of his best footy. So you know,
when you're playing like that, leading's easy. Former Black Caps
cricket coach Mike Hesson has outlined the magnitude of New
Zealand's plight at the T twenty World Cup. They play
host the West Indies in Trinidad on Thursday afternoon, and
what shapes what's must when territory isn't it with three
(02:11):
pool games left.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's probably the worst start we could hope for, you know,
not only y's a loss to Afghanistan, which can easily
happen because Afghanistan are a very good side. But I
think the quantity of the loss has left New Zealand
with very few options. That net run rate that would
have taken a heck of a.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Hit and defending champion mystics are searching for answers after
falling to a third consecutive defeat in Nepal's A and
Z Premiership. There's time to the pulse. In Patua, Kada Johnson,
an injury replacement ringing for Petatowiava, describes the impact of
the mid quarter's absence.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You could definitely how that Petter's presence was missed. Having
a few of the girls playing out a position was
an idea of our attacking connections. Just won't bet but
hopefully when he's back that will improve.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
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Speaker 2 (03:08):
Be a great pleasure to bring to the program format
warriors Farwena, Welcome to the show. Gee, it's been a
long time mate, how are you.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I'm good mate, Yes, it has been a long time
and how have you been brother.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm very very happy, still on the same job, still
annoying people like I annoyed you just recently to get
you on the air. Thanks for joining us. You were
back and arguably one of the healthy periods of the
New Zealand Warriors under Daniel Anderson. You guys had great success.
You're the team that people wanted to go and see.
This is happening again. Now from what you've seen over
(03:44):
the last year or two, what do you think is
encouraging people back into the wires again.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah, well mate, that's a that's a pretty good assessment. Obviously,
you know, I was part of that Daniel and scenario
when you know, we had a little bit of success.
Obviously didn't win the Grand Final, but we were playing
some really good footy. Fast forward to now, it's it's
almost reminiscent of that time. But I think what's played
a really big part is social media. I think social
(04:13):
media the Warrior is social media has got to be
one of the best in the NRL. Add to that
the performances that the boys have put in, and you know,
across the board as a whole organization, everything just seems
to be jelling and.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Through on the trot with a really underestimated roster at
least be honestly, these aren't the rock stars. These are
the second guys coming through. So in situations like that,
when when guys arerinted and out and the next guys
are coming through, how difficult is that for the coaching
staff to go, hold on, what do we do now?
We have a problem here?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, I think if you look at from the outside,
and that seems to be the case. But I've been
and sort of you know, in the circle, I guess
in the club this year, and that's not the case
from within the club. So they've got to say and
a core that's that they put together during preseason was
(05:13):
next man up. So basically they hammered that home throughout
the whole of preseason, which is like, hey, who's the
next man up? Anything's going to happen in terms of
player personnel. So I think we'reb and the coaching staff
had one hundred percent confidence that when they had that
stream of injuries to the top nine players, they were
fully backing the boys that were coming in to replace it.
(05:34):
And it showed the.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Fire in the bellies of these blokes too. As you
said to be next man up, but to prove a
point up against some very very powerful teams. It says
a lot about the coaching too, and the energy there.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Oh it does, it really does. And I think that's
just another m you know, attribute that that Webbe has brought.
And you know, yeah, the way that those boys stepped
up is nothing short off phenomenal, especially against those top teams.
And a lot of that has to go to we'by
(06:07):
and his coaching staff, but also to the whole club.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'd like to touch on fame the form a team
comes out today, some huge decisions for Andrew Webster. We
look at what Tomighty Martin did last week. We look
at Sean Johnson, the effect that he had on the side.
When you're filtering guys back in again, what do you
look at as far as the effect. I mean, it's
all about next man up. But a guy like Sean
Johnson instrumental, but Timighty Martin has shown how good he is.
(06:33):
That's quite a juggle, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
It is? It is a juggle. But I think there
has to be you know, like you said, I hate
to be in web his shoes, but you know, longevity, uh,
you know, in regards to Sean, Obviously he was instrumental
last year. He's finding a little bit of him this year.
(06:58):
And then you've got other players that are coming back.
You know, I think you've got to go with the
experience and and I guess the top line players that's
the season, give them another crack and then, but also
have the confidence to know that, hey, if you're not performing,
we're more than capable of covering your position. So I
think that's yeah. But mate, I wouldn't have a clue.
(07:21):
If I was a coach, I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't
even know where to begin.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
What what does it think like on the team though, when
you've got a season professional that young guys playing really well,
and then they just dragged this bloke back in again,
does that have a disruptive presence in the team from
what you remember?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Look from what I remember. I know for me, when
I was that young guy that got given a shot.
So my shot came off the back of Ali having
a well, he had an injured operation. He was out
for four months, so I took that as an opportunity.
But you know, I happen to sort of string together
(08:01):
a few good games for these young guys. They've only
you know, put together two or three games, so ideally
that's probably not long enough to cement a first great
spot over the top of our first line players. But
I think it won't cause much disruption because as a
young player you sort of know that, hey man, you
know I'm doing what's best for the team, even though
(08:21):
I may have performed. But you know, our star players
or our first line players, they're back from injury, they
were always going to go back in the team. That's
what that's what first line players are. They get injured,
they come back straight into the team because that's what
they're getting paid to do. But yeah, for me, I
don't think it really is disruptive in the team. It
(08:43):
just pretty much they've put their hand up to say, hey,
here's what I can do when you give me a chance.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's the only film Mowena. It's been so good catching
up after so long, wait to hear you're in a
good space, mate, Thanks for yours, Thanks Ratte.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Leading a X.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
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Speaker 5 (09:00):
In me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
If I if O. If you don't know what it means,
look it up and yeah, it's a bit sketchy, but
that's the only way you can describe what happened to
the black Caps on Saturday when they go into their
first up game up against the team that really they
knew was going to be something else in Afghanistan, and
they go in without any warm up games, just a
(09:25):
bit of open wicket practice. Plenty of people out there
questioned the intelligence of that move, but it was reiterated
by coaching staff right the way through the lead up
week that it's okay, we know what we're doing. The
boys are tired, they need it to go home. We'll
sort it out when we're playing. Everybody relax. So the
question now is how does the team deal with embarrassment,
(09:49):
deal with the concept, deal with the knowledge, deal with
the proof that they got it horribly horribly wrong out
of form, out of practice. You can't just play around
with your teammates and hope to gain something meaningful out
of that. Ahead of let's face it a must win
MA in the T twenty World Cup. This is not
(10:11):
a bilateral series. This is a World Cup. So in
the team role, horribly underdone. Anyone who saw that game
will know exactly what I'm talking about. Couldn't catch couldn't keep,
couldn't run, couldn't score any runs. Let's not underestimate how
good Afghanistan were. The way they played and how they
(10:32):
played pushed the black Caps into a corner. They could
have pushed their way out, but they simply didn't have
the wherewerf because they were in any form of state
through practice the Walmut matches to do anything about the
assault that they were under from Bangladesh. How well does
this team bounce back up against the West Indies lose this,
(10:54):
it will be one of the most embarrassing moments in
New Zealand cricket's history. And let's face it, they've had plenty.
But these guys, these are good cricketers. These guys understand
what's on their plate right now. They understand what they
have to do. And now they've been punched in the
face by Afghanistan and slapped around by the media and
(11:14):
fans after that appalling showing, I fully expect them to
stand up and show us why this is a perennial
semi final team in all cricketing competitions. Black Caps get
in there and prove the doubt is wrong. Uifad and
you fo, let's not do that again.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
Climbing under the chamber, awl and old mate. He's an
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Welson is the news director, the sports news director for
News talking to mate, how are you good?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Thanks to us Alwa's good to be in here.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Nice that Savo wee chat about the big stories of
the day. Vinicius, that is the big one. Valentthia fans
who basically insulted the bloke. They've been convicted and chucked
in prison for racist abuse over in France. This is
a game changer, I'm presum or is it not? Well?
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think these incidents have been happening for a long
time now in sport right where fans have been abusing
players on all kinds of levels. But quite often we
hear when it comes through that it's on a racist level,
and they get ground bands, they might get a fine,
and we're all clamoring here sitting here saying people like
this should be punished more severely. But this is the
(12:31):
first time to see some country or a body take
action like this and actually send people to prison. I mean,
I guess in terms of what they said, I'm not
exactly sure, but it must.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Be pretty to be fairly strong to do that exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
If you're talking about eight nine months in prison, it
has to be fairly fairly strong. And I just think
if nothing else this is it sends a signal.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Right.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Quite often these kind of sentences are about setting a
precedent and sending a signal to people who thinking about
doing this kind of thing in the future that hey,
if I if I do go to the game and
I think I'm going to be cheeky and rude and racist,
then you might find yourself behind bars. It makes you
think about it doing it a second time, doesn't it
so be abusive.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I think the big thing here is that this kind
of abuse is normalized in football matches. You hear it
all the time, especially over in Europe. So the football
now can say what I want. No one's going to care. Well,
they're listening and they can now. So you're right shot
across the bows. They stand on someone's toe and the
government will the authorities will basically break your leg, so
(13:37):
be warned.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
It'll be interesting to see what sort of impact this
has on other countries. We've heard quite a few cases
out of England. Obviously the EPL is a massive league,
but also other big leagues in Europe where this has happened.
So I wonder if this will perhaps maybe open up
for some other scenarios and other countries where other countries
(14:01):
decide that they're going to put people, you know, other courts,
judges decide that they're going to put people in prison
if they're going to take it too far in terms
of what they're hurling at players.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And acceptable America's Cup. Barcelona on track to hit well
a huge positive score. They're talking two billion dollars for
hosting and holding the America's Cup, which by rights should
have been here because last time I checked, the thing
about winning the America's Cup is you get to defend
it at home. Isn't that the point?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah? I think as sports fans, when they decided they
were going to take it to Barcelona, we were disappointed
that we couldn't see it here. But then there was
this other big part of it to the side about
what Auckland was missing out on as a city and
this as well. We'll see what happens, but it sounds
like a pretty comprehensive study has been done. That's estimating
(14:50):
this amount of money, and that's a huge amount of money,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
What about the jobs? Money is one thing, but people
an employed.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
It's huge, almost twenty thousand jobs as well. The study
is predicting it's going to create over there. So yes,
Barcelona is a different part of the world. It's in
the center of Europe. There's a lot around you and
I were talking off here that this is the first
time this event's been held in that part of the
world for a very long time. Perhaps that ramps up
the interest and puts that figure higher, but you have
(15:19):
to think if it was here, there was still going
to be a significant economic benefit, and that's you know.
I don't want to get into the stadium debate too
much because last week I feel like that's been dragging
on for years as well. But I kind of look
at that in the same light, and that quite often
we look at the figure of what's it going to
cost to host this event or what infrastructure do we
(15:40):
need to build and what's that going to cost, and
we look at this big number and we say, oh,
and we get scared, not thinking about long term about
what the benefits are to the city, to the country,
in terms of economic benefit, but also jobs and businesses
that's creating. So I think this is a classic case
of if you stump up and you want to host
(16:01):
an event, and you're prepared to fork out to do it,
then the benefits medium to long term benefits can be
quite big.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
A lot of money. Move away to that. Sewn Johnson
coming back from injury straight into the seven Jersey formal
fame Clay, where does it sit?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I think a player like that, you can't not bring
him back. Yes, to Marty Martin has been very good
in these last several weeks while these last three wins
to bring them back. But to Marty Martin is not
Sean Johnson. And the thing with Sean Johnson is, yes,
once upon a time he was a very exciting player
(16:36):
who could do amazing things, but he was constantly criticized
for not being your number seven that controls the game,
that leads the team around the park. In this last
part of his career, since he's come back to the Warriors,
that's exactly what he's turned into. We still get the
flashes of brilliance here and there, but by and large,
what he's become as a player that can really really
(16:57):
manage a good team around the park.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well, the erratic side of his game has dissipated somewhat,
has it not, And some people malign that because they
enjoyed that that unpredictability. I'm not quite sure if the
rest of his team enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
No, no, not, But I think that's in the past
for him, isn't it. And he's just become, you know,
to me, like a top five half back in the
in the NRL. So yes, while the team has been
winning and he hasn't been there, that maybe creates a
few questions about do you bring him straight back in?
But I mean listening to like after the game at
(17:33):
the weekend to who has got asked about it, and
he didn't even hesitate, you know, like they want Shawn Johnson,
the players want and that's to me, that's a ringing
endorsement of a captain and a person a leader like
to who Harris is saying we want him straight back
and then yeah, I don't, I don't. I just don't
think there's a debate. It's just a creates a great problem.
You've got to you've now got to Mardy Martin, who
(17:54):
can also play six, has got great confidence out of
taking the leadership and will now come back into that
number six role, that secondary role, but with much more
confidence when he is called upon to help to play
his part, that he's going to have that confidence to
do it. Then you've got Shawn Johnson as.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well Clay Wilson, sports news director from News Talks EDB.
Thanks so much for joining us here in the chain
with the pleasure was out always a pleasure Dark.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Thank you.
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