June 13, 2024 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 14th June 2024, Matt Giteau give his thoughts on the All Blacks Selection policy.
The Super Rugby Semis are upon us, Wallabies legend Matt Giteau joins the podcast to discuss what might happen in those matches, his return to rugby with the San Diego Legion and the 'Matt Giteau law'.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello and welcome into the final Sports Fixed podcast for
this week. It is Friday, the fourteenth of June. I'm
Jason Pine and alongside as always, mister Darcy Wald and Grave.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You like the way I added that mister makes me
sound more important?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Jason, Yeah, I need to try that with my introduction,
perhaps mister Jason Pine and mister Darcy Watergrave talking all
sorts of sports today on the podcast. I want to
have a look ahead to Super Rugby semi final action
and the Warriors as well. Speaking of rugby, I'm looking
forward to hearing your chat with Matt Getou.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah. Super nice guy, very talented player obviously of rugby union,
over one hundred test matches. He actually came out of
retirement when the States is playing over there in San Diego.
Of course, with the Ghetto Laurel rule of whatever you
want to call it, really interested to talk to him
about eligibility and the current landscape that we have now,
(01:14):
and of course we'll ask him about the Super rugby.
But I've got a funny feeling I know which way
is going to go with that one.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Pointing yeah, I think he might be right. I've got
some thoughts on the black Caps and what the future
might look like as well, so let's get into it.
In other news, let's start by checking out some of
the big sports stories floating around today. The black Caps
catastrophic tea twenty Cricket World Cup campaign, described as a
monumental failure by former international Peter mcglashon, particularly the lack
(01:42):
of warm up games.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
The buck tends to stop with the kid coach because
they get to ultimately make that call. I'm sure it'd
have been in collaboration with the captain, but there would
have been a handful of people that would have accepted
this program and the lead up to the tournament.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Northern Ireland's Rory McElroy share is a one shot lead
at the US Golf Open Major after a bogie free
opening round five under sixty five at Pinehurst Number two.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Make sure again was good early on. You know, I
chepped in at five, had a really good up and
dine on sticks, another really good up and dine eight.
But apart from that, I think I hit every other
green and you know it was a really controlled rind
of golf.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Ryan Fox tied for sixty ninth at three over after
the first round, and Dolphin's lead coach Wayne Bennett has
been asked if his team deserves a bit more respect
after knocking over the second play Sharks thirty twenty eight
to move up to fourth on the NRL Ladder.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Who's worried about that moment?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We respect ourselves. What we do with someone else's opinion
is we'll go takedntrol overseas.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
We want to be going to learn about that one.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
In the leading of X, We've got just the ticket.
It's sports fixed by news toors Ivy.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We joined that now by over one hundred to cap.
A Wallaby and a man who after ten months should
know better. He's gone back to playing rugby union again
in his early forties over in San Diego for the Legion.
His name is Matt Guito. Matt, welcome to the program.
I suppose I've got to start off with that you're retired.
But did you get board mate, mate?
Speaker 7 (03:03):
I did? Thanks thanks for having me on, but yeah,
I think that dad husband life just it was it
wasn't doing it for me, so I'll give it one
more crack and then yeah, fully will retire after this
year and and get back into the swing of things. No,
I think I was happily retired. Well I thought I was,
and then you know, I got the opportunity to come
(03:25):
over here, and it wasn't the whole season. I could
still do the commitments and different things I need to
do with my family before getting over here. So it
just turned out that, you know, I thought I was
happily retired. But I've really enjoyed getting back in and
mixing with the you know, the team and just competing again.
It's been really fun.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It must be great playing with for the San Diego
Legian as opposed to having him run over top of it.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Yeah, well only get he only runs over me on
a Tuesday and we've got contact session now, so that's
that's the positive. But it's good. Yeah, it's good to
get back with him. And obviously we played together in Tulon,
so we've had like a bit of history playing together,
obviously a lot of history playing against each other, so
it's always good to have him on my side rather
than again.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Tell us about the state of rugby the United States
of America to market that that rugby has been trying
to crack forever. Now you've got a major league of
rugby over there. Is it working, Is it getting traction?
Speaker 7 (04:21):
I mean as far as traction, I'm not too sure.
You know, in America, you look, you've obviously got the
big sports, the NBA, your NFL, baseball, you know, so
it's hard to compete with those sports. Well, it's pretty
much impossible. It's just trying to capture even if you
can get a small percentage of the country that support it.
That's bigger than both Australia and New Zealand combined, you know.
(04:43):
So I think with them hosting the twenty thirty one
World Cup, yeah, I just I feel like it will
grow and the competition and the standard of the competition
has grown massively since the first year when I came
in and played for LA. So yeah, I think attracting
(05:04):
bigger players over here and seeing it, it's definitely got
potential to get where Japan is at the moment. You
look at the top league and how successful their World
Cup bid was. I think obviously America first and foremost,
you know, as a nation needs to probably start producing
better results for the national team. But as far as
(05:27):
the actual competition goes, I think when they start to
relax a little bit on the salary cap and you're
able to bring over those bigger name players that are
more in their prime, you'll just see this competition grow
and grow.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You will forever like it to not be connected with
the guitar law, if you will, the ability to come
back after playing overseas and represent your nation. This is
something that is always being discussed over here in New Zealand.
You're thinkings that should relax their eligibility laws and maybe
look to pick overseas players, guys that have based themselves
(06:01):
away after a set time. Is that something you think
should happen.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
The difference being from my perspective being that I think
New Zealand Rugby have so many great players. You see
the legends of the game. Once they move on that
next year, you've got a new kid that's ready to
step in and obviously, you know, dominate the international scene.
So you've got so many great players there. I think
(06:27):
it's their only real bargaining player, you know, to play
for the All Blacks, you need to stay in New Zealand,
so that's any player that leaves. Obviously there are players
overseas that could potentially add to the All Blacks. But
I also think, you know, New Zealand rugby just have
so much depth in their squads and even the younger
(06:48):
grassroots players, you know, like I feel, also, rugby in
New zealand's totally different to Australia. In Australia we're competing
massively against We're behind Australian rules, rugby league, even football
or soccer, you know, so we're actually you know, trying
to just compete to get kids playing the sport, whereas
in New Zealand it's a religion. Everyone loves it. So
(07:12):
I think from an actual depth of your squad point
of view, I don't think New Zealand rugby need it,
but the experience is that you get. You even have
to ask Adisava. He's a little stint that he is
in Japan, just getting away from, you know, the fishball
of rugby in Australia and New Zealand and experiencing life
experiences and something culturally totally different. There's a lot to
(07:34):
be said there for freshening the players up. So I
see allowing the players to go away, but you know
they obviously can't play for the All Blacks when they're away.
It's probably the way to do it for them, But
just because they've got so much step for us, I
think in Australian rugby we probably do need to relax
the law a little bit. But it's a hard one
because you also want to keep your players in Australian rugby,
(07:57):
say it is a tough conversation, but my view on
it is, if you've got the best players, especially in
a World Cup year, why not pick your best players?
Why not give yourself the best shot to be as
successful as you can in a World Cup.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
We'll wrap things up with a prediction on two who's
going to pick up Super Rugby the trophy? Super Rugby
Pacific is one Australian team that left three New Zealand teams.
Which way is it going to roll and try and
stick your parochialism out the back of the couch? Will you?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
I just better say, mate, what do you want me
to say here? It's one of the stubiest questions I've
ever been asked. I believe it's got to be the Brumbies.
We're going to do it. I think, you know, camera boy, Yeah,
I just like the way they're trending. Obviously, the Blues
are going to be a tough, tough ask for them,
especially after what happened last time they went to Eaton Park.
(08:48):
But they'll be better for that outing. And I think
you know obviously, my heart, my head, everything's gone for
the brummies.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Brilliant. Do us a favor. Ask your other panelists what
the stupidest question is that I've ever been asked by
a radio host. And let's hope by Trump that one
as well. Make It's so real pleasure, mate, Thanks very
much for your time, your cut yourself, you go, well.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
This is Sportsfix, your daily does of sports news, how
news talks heavy.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
As we pick over the bones of what can best
be described as a shambalic T twenty Cricket World Cup
campaign for the black Caps, I wonder if it's time
for genuine change in the way we select our international
cricket teams. While there'll always be players who can play
all three formats, the proliferation of T twenty franchise competitions
has created a legion of T twenty specialists rather than
(09:40):
fight against that. Let's embrace it. Let's pick a T
twenty team for New Zealand that is dedicated to playing
T twenty cricket and have others who play almost exclusively
red ball or fifty overstuff for us a clear delineation,
and that includes a specialist T twenty coach, someone like
Stephen Fleming who's utterly immersed in the nuances of the
(10:02):
game through his time in the IPL with Chennai, who
can show innovation and flexibility and the ability to add
apt because that's what T twenty cricket requires. Have our
T twenty team sit off to one side and act
as a connected but separate entity. This would of course
cause a few issues when it comes to New Zealand
Cricket's central contracts, but maybe that's when you say. Our
(10:24):
contracts are for Test and one day international players who
may or may not also end up playing a bit
of T twenty. But for our T twenty side, we're
quite happy to pick uncontracted players who are specialists in
traveling the world playing franchise T twenty cricket. They don't
get New Zealand contracts, but they can play for New Zealand.
(10:45):
In fact, we want them to. You'd pick the likes
of Crent Bolton, Jimmy Neisham and Colin Munroe and Martin
Guptell and Tim Seifer for T twenty Internationals and then
top the team up with players you needed for balance,
probably once who add at least played in the IPL.
You then have T twenty specialists playing T twenty cricket
for New Zealand. It will also, I reckon, improve the
(11:07):
Test and Odie sides and give much needed rest of
those players, because if you want to play all three forms,
you basically have to play twelve months of the year
and that is not good for balance or for the
development of your red ball game. The days of three
format players are coming to an end, and rather than
fight against that, we should embrace it and blaze our
(11:28):
own trail rather than following what is already becoming a trend.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Into the Chamber we go, one of my favorite times
of the days. We get to do this, Darcy and I.
We kick around a few sporting topics. Super Rugby semi finals,
two big games tonight, Eden Park tomorrow Sky Stadium. Who
makes the Super Rugby Final first of all dars, who
are you got going through?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I enjoy the chamber of myself, but it's a bit
cramped and sometimes can be a wee bit stinky, but
we'll get through that. Who do I like hard not
to look past Auckland for the whole shooting match. Quite frankly,
the Blues have been wonderful so far this season. They've
got their work cut out for and up against the Brumbies,
they didn't come down to the last shower. And talking
of showers, what weather turns up to the National Stadium
(12:15):
we will see. But you've got to like what those
guys are doing, especially front loading that side, and the
outrageous talent of Mark Tahalia out on one wing, and
of course Caleb Clark coming back into form. As far
as Wellington goes, I don't know, Piney, you probably won't
like this, but I've been backing the Chiefs now for
about the last five or six weeks. I think they've
got great momentum. They learned the lessons from last year
(12:37):
by peaking way too fast, and I just wonder if
the excitement of a full crowd in the afternoon in
Wellington might be a little too much for the Hurricanes.
Don't punch me. I'm fine, No, that's all right.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I won't reach over and give you a slap around
the ear. I think this one's a coin flip. I
mean the Blues Brumbies tonight feels to me like it's
the Blues to lose. I really think they've got too
many weapons for a Brumbie side that you know that
has been good but good at home and okay away,
and we know an Australian it's never won a playoff
game in New Zealand. I don't expect that to change
(13:11):
tonight tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Though.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, you talk about it's just such an interesting thing,
you know, peaking at the right time and not peaking
two million, all that sort of thing. I kind of
think that's an excuse for not playing very well during
the season. I think for Clayton McMillan and Luke Jacobs
and take like, you know, we we've worked out that
it's the finals that matter. It's like them say, well,
actually the loss to the Reds and the Crusaders and
(13:32):
the Hurricanes twice and the Blues it was all part
of a grand plan. I'm not sure that it was.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
You know, do you think part of their grand plan
was for the Blues to fluff their lines at the
end of the last round so they actually could have
a home final. Should they keep winning the part of
their plan.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Too, Potentially, Yes, because let's not forget Yeah, I mean
these aren't fay to complete these two games. But look, CLAYT.
McMillan said after that, after that game a couple of
weeks back, Look, we'll see you in the final, and
that could happen. Obviously, Blues and Chiefs could meet in
the final. I just and this is going to sound biased,
but I just really like the way the Hurricanes have
gone about things right across the season. Yes, they've had
(14:09):
blips here and there, but for the most part, they
have got the job done in consistent fashion across the
entire season. Yes, they needed that last minute try from
the Chiefs to deny the Blues the bonus point which
gets them home and vartage all the way through. Be
that as it may, I still think I still think
they've got enough to edge the Chiefs tomorrow. They've got
what it takes. To be fair, though, the Chiefs have
(14:30):
got what it takes to beat the Hurricanes.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I think everybody in the White Cutter besides the White
cut who most PEO want to see a Hurricanes Blues final.
That would be the one I think most people are
looking at. My biggest hope for all of this is
that Razor Robinson doesn't lose any more players over the
next week in a bit, because that is scary for
what's going to be a crazy season with new coach
(14:52):
Robinson and the players he picks. Let's keep our fingers
crossed that the sick Bay remains empty pony.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Indeed, especially in the Lock four division. Let's go to
tomorrow night at Mount Smart. The Warriors haven't met in
Melbourne since twenty fifteen. The storm of won the last
fifteen between the two is that duck breaking tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I don't think what's happened in previous exchanges should actually
have any presence or any control over what happens tomorrow
night for the Warriors. They can't look back at that
record and go oh no, they keep beating us. They've
got to go here, look forward, break off the rear
vision mirrors. We can get this done. And this team,
as we know when it was ripped to pieces, performed
(15:34):
so well, had some great scalps. Now We've got the
twin threat of Johnson and Martin and there a lot
of the senior players are coming back is at home
well in Melbourne. Do know how to play in rubbish weather,
but this is so exciting and again another sold out stadium.
It's just crazy what this team have produced.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Absolutely brilliant and the Tomati Martin Shawn Johnson combination interests
me greatly because, as we know, in Johnson's absence over
the last three games to Marty Martin stepped into the
seven jumper and done a pretty decent job of it
from the observations I've seen and read, So how much
will that change or will it be enhanced by the
return of Sean Johnson with Martin into the six jumper.
(16:16):
Really looking forward to to seeing how this goes. I
had to look back. I didn't mean to, but it
popped up on my feed. The Xavier coachs try in
round two, that outrageous finish that gave the storm that one.
I mean, it defies the laws of physics. That stuff
does most.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Of them do these days NRL tries. It is crazy
stuff and you're right about the addition of Johnson. The
most important thing here is they both play the roles
that they've been allotted by coach Andrew Webster. They do that,
and we're in for a real treat.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Speaking of a treat for football fans in particular, I E.
Me and many others who follow the Ramble and you
on occasion as well for big tournaments Darce for the
Euros start tomorrow morning Germany against Scotland to open matters
up England Serbia Monday morning, seven o'clock. Yep for that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, I am up for that. As I said, tournament
play excites me because it means so much and when
it's country versus country, there is so much more on that.
That passion that seeks seeps through. And when you look
at Serbia v. England are short of England v Argentina,
I don't know if there's a more passionate fixture. And
to be honest, it's taken me a long time to
watch Beckham on Netflix, but I've almost finished it and
(17:26):
it's kind of rekindled a bit of interest in football
at that high level.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Year.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
So I'm in Quid's in at seven o'clock, good stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm in all in all month long. I may or
may not be available for calls in the early hours
of the morning over the month of well the rest
of June and into July as well.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So I'm doing Sports Fix by myself for the next month,
am I that's possible. Well, that's possible.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But let's take it on a day by day basis.
That is ask for today on the Chamber, We'll get
out of this stinky little room Andrikinde.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
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This is Forcefix Howard by News Talks ed B.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello and welcome into the final Sports Fixed podcast for
this week. It is Friday, the fourteenth of June. I'm
Jason Pine and alongside as always, mister Darcy Wald and Grave.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You like the way I added that mister makes me
sound more important?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Jason, Yeah, I need to try that with my introduction,
perhaps mister Jason Pine and mister Darcy Watergrave talking all
sorts of sports today on the podcast. I want to
have a look ahead to Super Rugby semi final action
and the Warriors as well. Speaking of rugby, I'm looking
forward to hearing your chat with Matt Getou.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah. Super nice guy, very talented player obviously of rugby union,
over one hundred test matches. He actually came out of
retirement when the States is playing over there in San Diego.
Of course, with the Ghetto Laurel rule of whatever you
want to call it, really interested to talk to him
about eligibility and the current landscape that we have now,
(01:14):
and of course we'll ask him about the Super rugby.
But I've got a funny feeling I know which way
is going to go with that one.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Pointing yeah, I think he might be right. I've got
some thoughts on the black Caps and what the future
might look like as well, so let's get into it.
In other news, let's start by checking out some of
the big sports stories floating around today. The black Caps
catastrophic tea twenty Cricket World Cup campaign, described as a
monumental failure by former international Peter mcglashon, particularly the lack
(01:42):
of warm up games.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
The buck tends to stop with the kid coach because
they get to ultimately make that call. I'm sure it'd
have been in collaboration with the captain, but there would
have been a handful of people that would have accepted
this program and the lead up to the tournament.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Northern Ireland's Rory McElroy share is a one shot lead
at the US Golf Open Major after a bogie free
opening round five under sixty five at Pinehurst Number two.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Make sure again was good early on. You know, I
chepped in at five, had a really good up and
dine on sticks, another really good up and dine eight.
But apart from that, I think I hit every other
green and you know it was a really controlled rind
of golf.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Ryan Fox tied for sixty ninth at three over after
the first round, and Dolphin's lead coach Wayne Bennett has
been asked if his team deserves a bit more respect
after knocking over the second play Sharks thirty twenty eight
to move up to fourth on the NRL Ladder.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Who's worried about that moment?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We respect ourselves. What we do with someone else's opinion
is we'll go takedntrol overseas.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
We want to be going to learn about that one.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
In the leading of X, We've got just the ticket.
It's sports fixed by news toors Ivy.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We joined that now by over one hundred to cap.
A Wallaby and a man who after ten months should
know better. He's gone back to playing rugby union again
in his early forties over in San Diego for the Legion.
His name is Matt Guito. Matt, welcome to the program.
I suppose I've got to start off with that you're retired.
But did you get board mate, mate?
Speaker 7 (03:03):
I did? Thanks thanks for having me on, but yeah,
I think that dad husband life just it was it
wasn't doing it for me, so I'll give it one
more crack and then yeah, fully will retire after this
year and and get back into the swing of things. No,
I think I was happily retired. Well I thought I was,
and then you know, I got the opportunity to come
(03:25):
over here, and it wasn't the whole season. I could
still do the commitments and different things I need to
do with my family before getting over here. So it
just turned out that, you know, I thought I was
happily retired. But I've really enjoyed getting back in and
mixing with the you know, the team and just competing again.
It's been really fun.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It must be great playing with for the San Diego
Legian as opposed to having him run over top of it.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Yeah, well only get he only runs over me on
a Tuesday and we've got contact session now, so that's
that's the positive. But it's good. Yeah, it's good to
get back with him. And obviously we played together in Tulon,
so we've had like a bit of history playing together,
obviously a lot of history playing against each other, so
it's always good to have him on my side rather
than again.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Tell us about the state of rugby the United States
of America to market that that rugby has been trying
to crack forever. Now you've got a major league of
rugby over there. Is it working, Is it getting traction?
Speaker 7 (04:21):
I mean as far as traction, I'm not too sure.
You know, in America, you look, you've obviously got the
big sports, the NBA, your NFL, baseball, you know, so
it's hard to compete with those sports. Well, it's pretty
much impossible. It's just trying to capture even if you
can get a small percentage of the country that support it.
That's bigger than both Australia and New Zealand combined, you know.
(04:43):
So I think with them hosting the twenty thirty one
World Cup, yeah, I just I feel like it will
grow and the competition and the standard of the competition
has grown massively since the first year when I came
in and played for LA. So yeah, I think attracting
(05:04):
bigger players over here and seeing it, it's definitely got
potential to get where Japan is at the moment. You
look at the top league and how successful their World
Cup bid was. I think obviously America first and foremost,
you know, as a nation needs to probably start producing
better results for the national team. But as far as
(05:27):
the actual competition goes, I think when they start to
relax a little bit on the salary cap and you're
able to bring over those bigger name players that are
more in their prime, you'll just see this competition grow
and grow.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You will forever like it to not be connected with
the guitar law, if you will, the ability to come
back after playing overseas and represent your nation. This is
something that is always being discussed over here in New Zealand.
You're thinkings that should relax their eligibility laws and maybe
look to pick overseas players, guys that have based themselves
(06:01):
away after a set time. Is that something you think
should happen.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
The difference being from my perspective being that I think
New Zealand Rugby have so many great players. You see
the legends of the game. Once they move on that
next year, you've got a new kid that's ready to
step in and obviously, you know, dominate the international scene.
So you've got so many great players there. I think
(06:27):
it's their only real bargaining player, you know, to play
for the All Blacks, you need to stay in New Zealand,
so that's any player that leaves. Obviously there are players
overseas that could potentially add to the All Blacks. But
I also think, you know, New Zealand rugby just have
so much depth in their squads and even the younger
(06:48):
grassroots players, you know, like I feel, also, rugby in
New zealand's totally different to Australia. In Australia we're competing
massively against We're behind Australian rules, rugby league, even football
or soccer, you know, so we're actually you know, trying
to just compete to get kids playing the sport, whereas
in New Zealand it's a religion. Everyone loves it. So
(07:12):
I think from an actual depth of your squad point
of view, I don't think New Zealand rugby need it,
but the experience is that you get. You even have
to ask Adisava. He's a little stint that he is
in Japan, just getting away from, you know, the fishball
of rugby in Australia and New Zealand and experiencing life
experiences and something culturally totally different. There's a lot to
(07:34):
be said there for freshening the players up. So I
see allowing the players to go away, but you know
they obviously can't play for the All Blacks when they're away.
It's probably the way to do it for them, But
just because they've got so much step for us, I
think in Australian rugby we probably do need to relax
the law a little bit. But it's a hard one
because you also want to keep your players in Australian rugby,
(07:57):
say it is a tough conversation, but my view on
it is, if you've got the best players, especially in
a World Cup year, why not pick your best players?
Why not give yourself the best shot to be as
successful as you can in a World Cup.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
We'll wrap things up with a prediction on two who's
going to pick up Super Rugby the trophy? Super Rugby
Pacific is one Australian team that left three New Zealand teams.
Which way is it going to roll and try and
stick your parochialism out the back of the couch? Will you?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
I just better say, mate, what do you want me
to say here? It's one of the stubiest questions I've
ever been asked. I believe it's got to be the Brumbies.
We're going to do it. I think, you know, camera boy, Yeah,
I just like the way they're trending. Obviously, the Blues
are going to be a tough, tough ask for them,
especially after what happened last time they went to Eaton Park.
(08:48):
But they'll be better for that outing. And I think
you know obviously, my heart, my head, everything's gone for
the brummies.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Brilliant. Do us a favor. Ask your other panelists what
the stupidest question is that I've ever been asked by
a radio host. And let's hope by Trump that one
as well. Make It's so real pleasure, mate, Thanks very
much for your time, your cut yourself, you go, well.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
This is Sportsfix, your daily does of sports news, how
news talks heavy.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
As we pick over the bones of what can best
be described as a shambalic T twenty Cricket World Cup
campaign for the black Caps, I wonder if it's time
for genuine change in the way we select our international
cricket teams. While there'll always be players who can play
all three formats, the proliferation of T twenty franchise competitions
has created a legion of T twenty specialists rather than
(09:40):
fight against that. Let's embrace it. Let's pick a T
twenty team for New Zealand that is dedicated to playing
T twenty cricket and have others who play almost exclusively
red ball or fifty overstuff for us a clear delineation,
and that includes a specialist T twenty coach, someone like
Stephen Fleming who's utterly immersed in the nuances of the
(10:02):
game through his time in the IPL with Chennai, who
can show innovation and flexibility and the ability to add
apt because that's what T twenty cricket requires. Have our
T twenty team sit off to one side and act
as a connected but separate entity. This would of course
cause a few issues when it comes to New Zealand
Cricket's central contracts, but maybe that's when you say. Our
(10:24):
contracts are for Test and one day international players who
may or may not also end up playing a bit
of T twenty. But for our T twenty side, we're
quite happy to pick uncontracted players who are specialists in
traveling the world playing franchise T twenty cricket. They don't
get New Zealand contracts, but they can play for New Zealand.
(10:45):
In fact, we want them to. You'd pick the likes
of Crent Bolton, Jimmy Neisham and Colin Munroe and Martin
Guptell and Tim Seifer for T twenty Internationals and then
top the team up with players you needed for balance,
probably once who add at least played in the IPL.
You then have T twenty specialists playing T twenty cricket
for New Zealand. It will also, I reckon, improve the
(11:07):
Test and Odie sides and give much needed rest of
those players, because if you want to play all three forms,
you basically have to play twelve months of the year
and that is not good for balance or for the
development of your red ball game. The days of three
format players are coming to an end, and rather than
fight against that, we should embrace it and blaze our
(11:28):
own trail rather than following what is already becoming a trend.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Into the Chamber we go, one of my favorite times
of the days. We get to do this, Darcy and I.
We kick around a few sporting topics. Super Rugby semi finals,
two big games tonight, Eden Park tomorrow Sky Stadium. Who
makes the Super Rugby Final first of all dars, who
are you got going through?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I enjoy the chamber of myself, but it's a bit
cramped and sometimes can be a wee bit stinky, but
we'll get through that. Who do I like hard not
to look past Auckland for the whole shooting match. Quite frankly,
the Blues have been wonderful so far this season. They've
got their work cut out for and up against the Brumbies,
they didn't come down to the last shower. And talking
of showers, what weather turns up to the National Stadium
(12:15):
we will see. But you've got to like what those
guys are doing, especially front loading that side, and the
outrageous talent of Mark Tahalia out on one wing, and
of course Caleb Clark coming back into form. As far
as Wellington goes, I don't know, Piney, you probably won't
like this, but I've been backing the Chiefs now for
about the last five or six weeks. I think they've
got great momentum. They learned the lessons from last year
(12:37):
by peaking way too fast, and I just wonder if
the excitement of a full crowd in the afternoon in
Wellington might be a little too much for the Hurricanes.
Don't punch me. I'm fine, No, that's all right.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I won't reach over and give you a slap around
the ear. I think this one's a coin flip. I
mean the Blues Brumbies tonight feels to me like it's
the Blues to lose. I really think they've got too
many weapons for a Brumbie side that you know that
has been good but good at home and okay away,
and we know an Australian it's never won a playoff
game in New Zealand. I don't expect that to change
(13:11):
tonight tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Though.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, you talk about it's just such an interesting thing,
you know, peaking at the right time and not peaking
two million, all that sort of thing. I kind of
think that's an excuse for not playing very well during
the season. I think for Clayton McMillan and Luke Jacobs
and take like, you know, we we've worked out that
it's the finals that matter. It's like them say, well,
actually the loss to the Reds and the Crusaders and
(13:32):
the Hurricanes twice and the Blues it was all part
of a grand plan. I'm not sure that it was.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
You know, do you think part of their grand plan
was for the Blues to fluff their lines at the
end of the last round so they actually could have
a home final. Should they keep winning the part of
their plan.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Too, Potentially, Yes, because let's not forget Yeah, I mean
these aren't fay to complete these two games. But look, CLAYT.
McMillan said after that, after that game a couple of
weeks back, Look, we'll see you in the final, and
that could happen. Obviously, Blues and Chiefs could meet in
the final. I just and this is going to sound biased,
but I just really like the way the Hurricanes have
gone about things right across the season. Yes, they've had
(14:09):
blips here and there, but for the most part, they
have got the job done in consistent fashion across the
entire season. Yes, they needed that last minute try from
the Chiefs to deny the Blues the bonus point which
gets them home and vartage all the way through. Be
that as it may, I still think I still think
they've got enough to edge the Chiefs tomorrow. They've got
what it takes. To be fair, though, the Chiefs have
(14:30):
got what it takes to beat the Hurricanes.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I think everybody in the White Cutter besides the White
cut who most PEO want to see a Hurricanes Blues final.
That would be the one I think most people are
looking at. My biggest hope for all of this is
that Razor Robinson doesn't lose any more players over the
next week in a bit, because that is scary for
what's going to be a crazy season with new coach
(14:52):
Robinson and the players he picks. Let's keep our fingers
crossed that the sick Bay remains empty pony.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Indeed, especially in the Lock four division. Let's go to
tomorrow night at Mount Smart. The Warriors haven't met in
Melbourne since twenty fifteen. The storm of won the last
fifteen between the two is that duck breaking tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I don't think what's happened in previous exchanges should actually
have any presence or any control over what happens tomorrow
night for the Warriors. They can't look back at that
record and go oh no, they keep beating us. They've
got to go here, look forward, break off the rear
vision mirrors. We can get this done. And this team,
as we know when it was ripped to pieces, performed
(15:34):
so well, had some great scalps. Now We've got the
twin threat of Johnson and Martin and there a lot
of the senior players are coming back is at home
well in Melbourne. Do know how to play in rubbish weather,
but this is so exciting and again another sold out stadium.
It's just crazy what this team have produced.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Absolutely brilliant and the Tomati Martin Shawn Johnson combination interests
me greatly because, as we know, in Johnson's absence over
the last three games to Marty Martin stepped into the
seven jumper and done a pretty decent job of it
from the observations I've seen and read, So how much
will that change or will it be enhanced by the
return of Sean Johnson with Martin into the six jumper.
(16:16):
Really looking forward to to seeing how this goes. I
had to look back. I didn't mean to, but it
popped up on my feed. The Xavier coachs try in
round two, that outrageous finish that gave the storm that one.
I mean, it defies the laws of physics. That stuff
does most.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Of them do these days NRL tries. It is crazy
stuff and you're right about the addition of Johnson. The
most important thing here is they both play the roles
that they've been allotted by coach Andrew Webster. They do that,
and we're in for a real treat.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Speaking of a treat for football fans in particular, I E.
Me and many others who follow the Ramble and you
on occasion as well for big tournaments Darce for the
Euros start tomorrow morning Germany against Scotland to open matters
up England Serbia Monday morning, seven o'clock. Yep for that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, I am up for that. As I said, tournament
play excites me because it means so much and when
it's country versus country, there is so much more on that.
That passion that seeks seeps through. And when you look
at Serbia v. England are short of England v Argentina,
I don't know if there's a more passionate fixture. And
to be honest, it's taken me a long time to
watch Beckham on Netflix, but I've almost finished it and
(17:26):
it's kind of rekindled a bit of interest in football
at that high level.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Year.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
So I'm in Quid's in at seven o'clock, good stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm in all in all month long. I may or
may not be available for calls in the early hours
of the morning over the month of well the rest
of June and into July as well.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So I'm doing Sports Fix by myself for the next month,
am I that's possible. Well, that's possible.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But let's take it on a day by day basis.
That is ask for today on the Chamber, We'll get
out of this stinky little room Andrikinde.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Netflix dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Fine and Darcy Walter Grave.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
And just like that, another episode of the Sports Fix
podcast comes to its natural conclusion. Don't forget to subscribe
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Speaker 4 (18:16):
And if the podcast is not enough for you, all
weekend Jason Pine hosts Weekend Sport between twelve and three
Saturday Sunday and of course during the week between seven
and eight. It's a job shield myself and Jason on
sports Talk on News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
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