July 11, 2024 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for Thursday 11 July 2024, All Blacks Flanker Dalton Papalii talks about the team named to play England in the 2nd test match at Eden Park - Is the legacy of the hallowed turf weighing on their minds?
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on why you should be getting behind Andrei Mikhailovich.
Plus, Piney joins the panel to discuss the real possibility...that 'football' is in fact coming home.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix Howard By News Talks ed B.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello and welcome into a fresh episode of the Sports
Flex Podcast. It is Thursday, July eleven, as we build
towards another All Blacks test weekend on Jason Pinon across
the desk.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
As Darcy Walldergrave. It is team naming Thursdays is such
a thing. But it's been named anyway, right.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It has been named, and one of its number is
on the Sports Fix podcast today, Who have.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You rustled up to? Us? Dalton Papa Lee fantastic character,
loves a good V eight and of course he loves
running at an over top of people while playing at
home at Eden Park. And we know the record there,
don't we we do?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Indeed, it stretches a long, long, long way back.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So Dot Papa, let you on the on the Sports
Flex podcast, Darcy and I'll kick around our thoughts on
this pretty much unchanged team and.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Is football coming home? Is it coming home?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Stop it?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Stop it?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I'll ask again when we get in to the chamber.
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
As always, we begin with some of the big sports
stories of the day. Substitute Olie Watkins has scored in
the ninetieth minute to give England a two to one
win over the Netherlands and advance to Sunday's European Football
Championship final.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Whatckets nay minutes? England a big delarious drama.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
A photo finish meantime on the mountainous two hundred and
eleven kilometer stage eleven of the Tour de France.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And now they start to kick.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Finger Guard wants to have the mental blow of beets
and Pigatcha to the line.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's a flats out sprint between the turf and who's
going to win this stage?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Look at Pergacca, go look at finger Guard.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
It's going to be a photo finish.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, yonas finger Guard of En actually awarded the stage win,
beating Taday Pogatcha. But Australian Alex Demonora has been unable
to contest his Wimbledon quarter final against Novak Djokovic, forced
to withdraw with a hip injury.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
It's devastating, no way to beat around the bush. I
haven't really been able to enjoy what I've achieved this week.
I knew as soon as I felt that part something
bad had happened, leading.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A vix We've got just the ticket. It's Sports X
how by Newstalks is.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'll join our news talks eb By Dulton, Papa Lee
ahead of what. Well, they're all keep test matches, aren't they.
You can't say this is a key because they all are.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (02:49):
You've heard test match footy is is always up there
with some of the most physical games you play. So
test match coming up against England and they're going to
really throw the kitchen sink at us looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, they'll be feilty too. At one point last they'll
be going, what did we do? We had that but
they didn't, So how do they suppose focus that rage?
You've been in the same position, what would you do?
Speaker 9 (03:09):
I'll just try to, you know, try breakdown the game
where we went wrong and try fixing those ears. But
at the end of the day, you know it was
a tight game, and you know a few calls could
have gone their way, but I would have I would
really break down the game and see we are areas
where we can probably just fix up a little bit
and I.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Think they're for me personally.
Speaker 9 (03:27):
I think they were going to come at the breakdown
a little bit harder than usual, so it's going to
be a pretty pretty tough fight there.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So it came pretty hard as it is. Do you
think they were battening off all you but don't I
think I really knew what they were doing.
Speaker 9 (03:39):
Yeah, I think, like I said before, it could have
gone either way. And the breakdown was physical and their
forwards really tested us. And and it's a good thing
because you know, it's our first test together, you know,
new players, whole new management. So I think we I
think we were expecting it, but you know, we even
said in our review that the second test match is
(04:00):
always a bit harder because you know, you sort of
the first game you get a feeling for each other,
and now the second game that you can really, you know,
sort of pick at the areas where they think. It's
a bit of a struggle for us, But at the
end of the day, looking forward.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
To it and I want to see the areas there
we can improve.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And so yeah, well, the Irish rolled the all Blacks
and the second test the lines did a few years
ago as well, so the second test is an area
of vulnerability because you both tested each other out. You
know your whole So let's look at your own game.
Where do you think you have what's razor? Jason and
the Light.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Told you no, it's just the bound around our game
making sure we get boys in the road positions because
you know, like I said, it's a whole new game
plan that we we're adjusting to. And I think in
that in their first game against England, there was some
boys out of position and all that, but I think
we still get in clarity of where we are. But
I think the boys are pretty confident where we should
be on the field and putting the ball on the
(04:53):
road spot. So the good thing is we have guys
that you know, our attack leaders body Bear d Mac
you know, Jordie Barrett and all that leading the big
boys and the forwards around.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
The paddock, and their communication is key.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
And I think the their top class in that area
and that's just sort of helps us. So when those
boys are firing, I think the whole team is Dalton.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
How do you reckon that?
Speaker 9 (05:14):
You?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Lucy said as far as setting platforms when it came
to Damien mckinn's and do you think you gave him
enough room. Are you happy in that space or could
there be more?
Speaker 9 (05:22):
I think it can always be more, you know, like
some areas where we think we're a bit a bit
slow and where we get be improven. But then sometimes
if we get the other the good stuff you were
doing and you sort of go away from it.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
It's just trying to build a.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
Balld to consistent level around all those areas and making
sure we're finishing in those areas. That's a big key
thing that Razer always talks about as finishing everything you
do and doing it well. So it's just making sure
the areas where you know we are working on where
we're making sure we're getting better, and that's that's by
doing the trainings and getting our trademarks and we start
(05:56):
for finnly.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Even though it's terrible that TJ went down on screaming
he whist your your old mate from the Blues has
got the runny starting. So that's got to put fire
in your belly, all the other Blues bellies and of.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
Course as well, Yeah, one hundred percent, and you know
think TJ. You know, it was a big loss losing him,
but that's the curse of the game. You know, there's
always going to be injuries and.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Sorry, a curse, curse, MA, that's a curse of the game.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
You know, you don't want to have injuries, you know, yeah,
you don't have injuries, but it's a ship thing.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
But they always, they always happens, and you know, I've
had my fair share.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
But Finley coming up.
Speaker 9 (06:25):
You know, he's a bloody good player, and he's a
bit of a pest on the field and.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Off field as well. So the half fas is in
your design one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
They talk a lot of shit, but that's good ship
and the good one thing with Finlay is that you
know he's he has that he has that mindset that
he always wants to bring the best out of everyone
and and he when he nails his detail and makes
everyone around him better.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
So he's talking is top key.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
You know, he makes sure boys are in the right position,
but you know, telling him to get around the corner
or to stay always filling in. So he's an awesome
player and I'm glad that there's a chance to go
out then show what he's got.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
He joins us, great that they've stuck a sentsial with
exactly the same team. You only change out of injury.
That's got to give you guys some faith, in some
strength that Razer knows what he wants and you guys
can only but learn from that last experience. There's nothing changed.
That's got to be good.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Yeah, and it's it's just building those new relationships with
the players. You know, we've all come from our own
superfranchises and we all have different systems there. So it's
coming into this environment, learning the game plan and they're
just building that. What's the word of synergy? You've been
boarding a bit of synergy between each other, and that's
that's the key and the first game, you know, I
think you can see we're a bit rough in some areas,
(07:35):
but now we sort of know what they expect of us,
the coaches, and we can we now go out there.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And trust one another, trust one another and do our job.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
So yeah, well there's a coaching synergy too, isn't there
between yourself as you mention brand new coaching staff. Essentially
they're trying to work themselves out, they're trying to work
you out and vice versa. So a couple of weeks
in camp, now is that starting to not necessarily smooth,
but he's starting to feel that that biting.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Yeah, I definitely do, and I know a lot of
the boys have been talking about how we definitely feel
it like everything's building, you know, like fresh start. It's
always hard to get a gauge that we're at, but
I think to see the second week coming into here
sort of have the same you know, routines in place
now and we're getting we're getting pretty confident.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
In this area. So we the first time I came in,
you know, there.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
Was a bit of clutter, you know, a lot of
a lot of the coaches pushing this stuff. But it's
getting easier now because you're getting used to the terminology,
the structures and and what they expect of you individually
and as a team.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
So it's good.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Razor, as loose as he is in training, is his
in real life? Is he's quite something else, isn't he?
Speaker 9 (08:38):
I can't tell you that secret man? Come on, bro, No,
he's awesome, very easy. He adds a different personality to
the coaching stuff. You know, he comes in and he's himself.
That's a good thing. He doesn't hide behind you know,
a mask or he himself and that's a good thing.
And you know he can be serious at times, but
he can also knows that when to have a laugh,
and that's probably what you want out of a coach.
(08:59):
You know, you can't be full steam ahead code all
the time and we come in here, we get the
work done, but you can also have a little joke
with him on the side. And that's what players, you know,
sort of respect and like.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So I think that's a sort of n kind of
they call him Sternon Vern, but it's also mirthful Vern.
He keeps on reimpressing to me how much joy is
important part of the game. So that SiGe and on
that and the Blues you're playing at home. No pressure, mate,
it's going to be thirty years since the All Blacks
last role. Do you carry that? Do you ignore it?
How do you deal with that kind of pressure being
at home, being at your home ground, your last place,
you know the trill.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
This is my home.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
And even for the Blues, you know it just means
it means a little bit more when you play at home,
this is your fortress. But for the All Blacks, you
know that's that's a legacy created.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
By you know, the past players as well.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
So you do carry a bit of weight there, but
at the end of the day, this is this is
just footy.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Mean, you put your best foot forward.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
You always do in this in the Black jersey and
you want to keep it a fortress.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
So that's always going to be our goal in the
back of our mind.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Just don't use the word curse around all blacks. Dalton, Papa,
you're always good to catch up, my friend.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you go well?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Get in the end cause of ruckers, mate.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
No cheers made, always appreciate.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
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Speaker 4 (10:16):
Granted we're not talking the healthyon days of a middleweight boxing,
but it is a significant fight coming up on Sunday
afternoon at New Zealand time. Andre Mikaylovitch is taking on
Jannabecker Alam Kalouni for two straps. The IBF and WBO
middleweight belts are up for grabs at the Palms Casino
(10:38):
Resort in Las Vegas. I'm not entirely sure it's the
New Zealand sporting public. I have quite realized the gravity
of this fight. He will become should he win, and
trust me, he's very very confident. The only New Zealand
boxer to hold unified world titles. That is an incredible
result for a young man out of Russia, out of
(11:00):
West Auckland, who's now at the top of his game
and fighting at the top of the world. If you're
not massive on boxing, it might not that much. But
looking back at the wonder days of middleweight box and
there are names there that you simply can't forget. Bernard
Hopkins and marvelous Marvin Hagler are a couple that fly
out of my face. What about Canalo areas of recent time?
(11:23):
What a fighter he was? Triple G A Golovkin. There's
another guy I absolutely loved to watch. And if you
wind it back to the eighties nineties, you look at
De la Hoya and you bank what great names and
if you want to go way back into history, Jake LaMotta,
Sugar Ray Robinson. This is a quality class, even though
(11:44):
it's not stuffed with well known names now it may
well be. And one of those names is Andre Mkalvit's
the only concern here is his last fight was up
against well a lump called Les Sherrington. Been there, done that,
A journeyman and an old man. He was wiped out
what ninety seconds with a kidney shot by at Mikaylovitch.
(12:05):
Previous to that, his last fight, he got knocked down
on the first by DSN Sualtaran. It was wasn't it.
So he's not in the best prepped shape, if you
know what I mean. He's been an inactive boxer for
the best part of a year. Will that transfer into
the squared circle come Sunday afternoon or not? All I
(12:26):
know is I'll be all over it like a rash
watching this man out of Peach boxing, this orphan out
of Russia who was picked up when he was eighteen
months old. Do good on the world stage. Get on it.
I'm all over him, Andre Mikaylovitch, don't forget that name.
He he comes.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Right, let's get inside this comfy chamber and kick around
the sports topics of the day. You were at the
All Black squad naming obviously, Darcy, we've heard your chat
with Dotton Papa Lee. Were you surprised that there was
just the one change, and an enforced one at that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Did you expect any tactical.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Twigs in around about kind of way? I was surprised.
I thought maybe they might want to say they, I
mean the coaching staff, the coaches, Razor etc. Might tweak,
Maybe the loose forwards they might tweak. But then I
thought about it, thought, you know what, this is faith.
This is what Rais is doing. He's putting faith in
his side to understand what they've learned and then put
(13:29):
it into action again at Eden Park. He don't want
to upset the apple cuts. So really it's quite a
sensible reasoned decision to not change a damn thing.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I know we're in talking about this weekend, but what
does it then say about the game against Fiji on
Saturday week Are we going to see all of the debutantes.
We're going to see Couartiers latim I probably this weekend,
but the other four are we going to see them?
Are we going to see guys like Ethan Blackadder who
hasn't really had a look in, Caleb Clark and other
Are those guys all going to get a game against Fiji?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
It seems like they will, you'd think, so, of course,
let's not underestimate what the Fijians bring. And people may
shrug their sholds and say, oh, don't be silly, but
this is a team on the art with of course
a lot of the members now engaged in super rugby
between with Fijian drawer. I don't expect them to roll them,
but I don't want Razor Robinson going in there thinking
(14:20):
it's going to be an easy beat on neutral territory.
So I don't know. If he rolls all of the
young guys in, it might be just a drip feed
off the bench possibly and rewards for other guys who's
looking at and key position, So I don't think wholesale.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I was looking at that team and thinking before it
was named today, who might be perhaps under threat if
you call it that is, to lose in their position,
particularly in the starting fifteen, and we knew Finlay Christy
was coming in, but the other fourteen and I land
on a guy like Somemer Penny Fee now who didn't
I wasn't sure, absolutely imposed himself physically last weekend. Then
(14:55):
Stephen Petafetta, who had a very good game. But I
heard a couple of things during the week that maybe
hinted at Bowden Barrett coming in there. Do you reckon
he would have had any or they as a coaching
group would have had any temptation to tweak things either
based on four more game plan.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think that with these guys, they knew what they're
doing and they've got a plan for the first couple
of weeks, and short of injury, they weren't going to
adjust that. It's a matter of giving guys the responsibility
of playing well. Look, final wasn't fantastic and we saw that.
It's different arguments. What do you think of Damien McKenzie,
because I've had agon's also of people about his contribution.
(15:29):
I thought it could have been better, but I didn't
think it was helped by his loose forward, so I
thought there might have been a wee bit of a
tweak there that would be the only space though. Do
you think you needed more help, Pony?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, I think so. And it's funny, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I think Damien McKenzie is one of these guys. He's
one man's four out of ten and another man's eight
out of ten, depending on and regardless of out.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They don't read those ratings. Do you come him on, Poney?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
It was a figure of speech, duce, a figure of speech.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But while we're on the topic, I think I did
see two sets of ratings. One had a bit of
four and one had a bit at an eight. They
can't both be true. Look, I think it would have
been really harsh to take the ten jersey off Damien
McKenzie after one test, and they could have body there.
They could have put Parafeta there if they wanted to.
But no, I think he I reckon. They may well
have said to him, d maak, You've got this ten
(16:17):
jersey for the Tow England Tests and as long as
all goes well, we'll also give it to you for
the first bit of the Rugby Championship, just to give
him that security. But he's not always looking over his
shoulder thinking, man, if I have a bad game, I've
got a couple of guys here and might take this jersey.
So if I was Razor and I'm not, but if
I was, I'd be saying to him, here's the security
of these test matches.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Go out there and play uncovered.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Well, that's what the black Caps did for quite some time.
Easier to get what not. What am I trying to say?
What the black Caps did is like we're not going
to knock you out based on a couple of poor performances.
So people get comfortable in their roles knowing, as you said,
no one's looking over their shoulder. And I think that's
really important part of stability there. And I think the
(16:57):
Boden Barrett, he is a guy that offers so much
off the bench and who's to say it has to
be the last twenty minutes could be the last half
and how could be the second half for all you know,
but the security of a season professional like him on
the bench. He's reasonably smart, right.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, it is indeed, all right, more on the All
Blacks tomorrow in the chamber just before we go though England.
Getting the job done this morning, I know you would
have enjoyed Ollie Watkins ninetieth minute Winter Cough. My coffee
up and I was watching it all in bed because
I get morning sun. So you know what, I'm just
going to set up here and bed in my computer
and drink coffee in the sun. So it's is it
coming home or is it going to be a last
(17:32):
minute train wreck? And I thought with the push and
what was happening at the end of that with the Dutch,
I thought that you're going to leak, you are going
to leak.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
But I'll tell you what, that goalkeeper name escapes me.
He pulled off some astonishing saves, so they can thank
him as much as they can thank Ollie Watkins.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Right yeah, indeed, Jordan Pickfordshire man and goal and he's
it gets mixed reviews, I have to say from England
fans because he's a bit shall we say, eccentric, But
then goalkeepers are all mad, so you know he just
fits the bill. So it's Spain against England Monday morning,
seven o'clock. Spain will be overwhelming favorites based on the
way they've played at this tournament.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
But England are there.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
They're getting it at the right time, right, We're starting
to play the right football when they need to, not
early in the peace. So they've managed to somehow binarily
mast their way through. But now they are at the
actual cutting edge, so we can't write them off and
that they may be bringing it home and they may
be on the bus, but I think we all fear
that the driver of the bus is Spanish.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I think you might be right. I think you might
be right.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think it's also convenient way of saying, or of
explaining away, why you weren't playing there well at the
start or we were saving us, saving ourselves for the game.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I've always been in English football.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Apologies you know me too. That is us in the
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Hello and welcome into a fresh episode of the Sports
Flex Podcast. It is Thursday, July eleven, as we build
towards another All Blacks test weekend on Jason Pinon across
the desk.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
As Darcy Walldergrave. It is team naming Thursdays is such
a thing. But it's been named anyway, right.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It has been named, and one of its number is
on the Sports Fix podcast today, Who have.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You rustled up to? Us? Dalton Papa Lee fantastic character,
loves a good V eight and of course he loves
running at an over top of people while playing at
home at Eden Park. And we know the record there,
don't we we do?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Indeed, it stretches a long, long, long way back.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So Dot Papa, let you on the on the Sports
Flex podcast, Darcy and I'll kick around our thoughts on
this pretty much unchanged team and.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Is football coming home? Is it coming home?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Stop it?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Stop it?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I'll ask again when we get in to the chamber.
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
As always, we begin with some of the big sports
stories of the day. Substitute Olie Watkins has scored in
the ninetieth minute to give England a two to one
win over the Netherlands and advance to Sunday's European Football
Championship final.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Whatckets nay minutes? England a big delarious drama.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
A photo finish meantime on the mountainous two hundred and
eleven kilometer stage eleven of the Tour de France.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And now they start to kick.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Finger Guard wants to have the mental blow of beets
and Pigatcha to the line.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's a flats out sprint between the turf and who's
going to win this stage?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Look at Pergacca, go look at finger Guard.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
It's going to be a photo finish.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, yonas finger Guard of En actually awarded the stage win,
beating Taday Pogatcha. But Australian Alex Demonora has been unable
to contest his Wimbledon quarter final against Novak Djokovic, forced
to withdraw with a hip injury.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
It's devastating, no way to beat around the bush. I
haven't really been able to enjoy what I've achieved this week.
I knew as soon as I felt that part something
bad had happened, leading.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
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Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'll join our news talks eb By Dulton, Papa Lee
ahead of what. Well, they're all keep test matches, aren't they.
You can't say this is a key because they all are.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (02:49):
You've heard test match footy is is always up there
with some of the most physical games you play. So
test match coming up against England and they're going to
really throw the kitchen sink at us looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, they'll be feilty too. At one point last they'll
be going, what did we do? We had that but
they didn't, So how do they suppose focus that rage?
You've been in the same position, what would you do?
Speaker 9 (03:09):
I'll just try to, you know, try breakdown the game
where we went wrong and try fixing those ears. But
at the end of the day, you know it was
a tight game, and you know a few calls could
have gone their way, but I would have I would
really break down the game and see we are areas
where we can probably just fix up a little bit
and I.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Think they're for me personally.
Speaker 9 (03:27):
I think they were going to come at the breakdown
a little bit harder than usual, so it's going to
be a pretty pretty tough fight there.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So it came pretty hard as it is. Do you
think they were battening off all you but don't I
think I really knew what they were doing.
Speaker 9 (03:39):
Yeah, I think, like I said before, it could have
gone either way. And the breakdown was physical and their
forwards really tested us. And and it's a good thing
because you know, it's our first test together, you know,
new players, whole new management. So I think we I
think we were expecting it, but you know, we even
said in our review that the second test match is
(04:00):
always a bit harder because you know, you sort of
the first game you get a feeling for each other,
and now the second game that you can really, you know,
sort of pick at the areas where they think. It's
a bit of a struggle for us, But at the
end of the day, looking forward.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
To it and I want to see the areas there
we can improve.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And so yeah, well, the Irish rolled the all Blacks
and the second test the lines did a few years
ago as well, so the second test is an area
of vulnerability because you both tested each other out. You
know your whole So let's look at your own game.
Where do you think you have what's razor? Jason and
the Light.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Told you no, it's just the bound around our game
making sure we get boys in the road positions because
you know, like I said, it's a whole new game
plan that we we're adjusting to. And I think in
that in their first game against England, there was some
boys out of position and all that, but I think
we still get in clarity of where we are. But
I think the boys are pretty confident where we should
be on the field and putting the ball on the
(04:53):
road spot. So the good thing is we have guys
that you know, our attack leaders body Bear d Mac
you know, Jordie Barrett and all that leading the big
boys and the forwards around.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
The paddock, and their communication is key.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
And I think the their top class in that area
and that's just sort of helps us. So when those
boys are firing, I think the whole team is Dalton.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
How do you reckon that?
Speaker 9 (05:14):
You?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Lucy said as far as setting platforms when it came
to Damien mckinn's and do you think you gave him
enough room. Are you happy in that space or could
there be more?
Speaker 9 (05:22):
I think it can always be more, you know, like
some areas where we think we're a bit a bit
slow and where we get be improven. But then sometimes
if we get the other the good stuff you were
doing and you sort of go away from it.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
It's just trying to build a.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
Balld to consistent level around all those areas and making
sure we're finishing in those areas. That's a big key
thing that Razer always talks about as finishing everything you
do and doing it well. So it's just making sure
the areas where you know we are working on where
we're making sure we're getting better, and that's that's by
doing the trainings and getting our trademarks and we start
(05:56):
for finnly.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Even though it's terrible that TJ went down on screaming
he whist your your old mate from the Blues has
got the runny starting. So that's got to put fire
in your belly, all the other Blues bellies and of.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
Course as well, Yeah, one hundred percent, and you know
think TJ. You know, it was a big loss losing him,
but that's the curse of the game. You know, there's
always going to be injuries and.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Sorry, a curse, curse, MA, that's a curse of the game.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
You know, you don't want to have injuries, you know, yeah,
you don't have injuries, but it's a ship thing.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
But they always, they always happens, and you know, I've
had my fair share.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
But Finley coming up.
Speaker 9 (06:25):
You know, he's a bloody good player, and he's a
bit of a pest on the field and.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Off field as well. So the half fas is in
your design one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
They talk a lot of shit, but that's good ship
and the good one thing with Finlay is that you
know he's he has that he has that mindset that
he always wants to bring the best out of everyone
and and he when he nails his detail and makes
everyone around him better.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
So he's talking is top key.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
You know, he makes sure boys are in the right position,
but you know, telling him to get around the corner
or to stay always filling in. So he's an awesome
player and I'm glad that there's a chance to go
out then show what he's got.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
He joins us, great that they've stuck a sentsial with
exactly the same team. You only change out of injury.
That's got to give you guys some faith, in some
strength that Razer knows what he wants and you guys
can only but learn from that last experience. There's nothing changed.
That's got to be good.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Yeah, and it's it's just building those new relationships with
the players. You know, we've all come from our own
superfranchises and we all have different systems there. So it's
coming into this environment, learning the game plan and they're
just building that. What's the word of synergy? You've been
boarding a bit of synergy between each other, and that's
that's the key and the first game, you know, I
think you can see we're a bit rough in some areas,
(07:35):
but now we sort of know what they expect of us,
the coaches, and we can we now go out there.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And trust one another, trust one another and do our job.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
So yeah, well there's a coaching synergy too, isn't there
between yourself as you mention brand new coaching staff. Essentially
they're trying to work themselves out, they're trying to work
you out and vice versa. So a couple of weeks
in camp, now is that starting to not necessarily smooth,
but he's starting to feel that that biting.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Yeah, I definitely do, and I know a lot of
the boys have been talking about how we definitely feel
it like everything's building, you know, like fresh start. It's
always hard to get a gauge that we're at, but
I think to see the second week coming into here
sort of have the same you know, routines in place
now and we're getting we're getting pretty confident.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
In this area. So we the first time I came in,
you know, there.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
Was a bit of clutter, you know, a lot of
a lot of the coaches pushing this stuff. But it's
getting easier now because you're getting used to the terminology,
the structures and and what they expect of you individually
and as a team.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
So it's good.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Razor, as loose as he is in training, is his
in real life? Is he's quite something else, isn't he?
Speaker 9 (08:38):
I can't tell you that secret man? Come on, bro, No,
he's awesome, very easy. He adds a different personality to
the coaching stuff. You know, he comes in and he's himself.
That's a good thing. He doesn't hide behind you know,
a mask or he himself and that's a good thing.
And you know he can be serious at times, but
he can also knows that when to have a laugh,
and that's probably what you want out of a coach.
(08:59):
You know, you can't be full steam ahead code all
the time and we come in here, we get the
work done, but you can also have a little joke
with him on the side. And that's what players, you know,
sort of respect and like.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So I think that's a sort of n kind of
they call him Sternon Vern, but it's also mirthful Vern.
He keeps on reimpressing to me how much joy is
important part of the game. So that SiGe and on
that and the Blues you're playing at home. No pressure, mate,
it's going to be thirty years since the All Blacks
last role. Do you carry that? Do you ignore it?
How do you deal with that kind of pressure being
at home, being at your home ground, your last place,
you know the trill.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
This is my home.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
And even for the Blues, you know it just means
it means a little bit more when you play at home,
this is your fortress. But for the All Blacks, you
know that's that's a legacy created.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
By you know, the past players as well.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
So you do carry a bit of weight there, but
at the end of the day, this is this is
just footy.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Mean, you put your best foot forward.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
You always do in this in the Black jersey and
you want to keep it a fortress.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
So that's always going to be our goal in the
back of our mind.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Just don't use the word curse around all blacks. Dalton, Papa,
you're always good to catch up, my friend.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you go well?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Get in the end cause of ruckers, mate.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
No cheers made, always appreciate.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
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Speaker 4 (10:16):
Granted we're not talking the healthyon days of a middleweight boxing,
but it is a significant fight coming up on Sunday
afternoon at New Zealand time. Andre Mikaylovitch is taking on
Jannabecker Alam Kalouni for two straps. The IBF and WBO
middleweight belts are up for grabs at the Palms Casino
(10:38):
Resort in Las Vegas. I'm not entirely sure it's the
New Zealand sporting public. I have quite realized the gravity
of this fight. He will become should he win, and
trust me, he's very very confident. The only New Zealand
boxer to hold unified world titles. That is an incredible
result for a young man out of Russia, out of
(11:00):
West Auckland, who's now at the top of his game
and fighting at the top of the world. If you're
not massive on boxing, it might not that much. But
looking back at the wonder days of middleweight box and
there are names there that you simply can't forget. Bernard
Hopkins and marvelous Marvin Hagler are a couple that fly
out of my face. What about Canalo areas of recent time?
(11:23):
What a fighter he was? Triple G A Golovkin. There's
another guy I absolutely loved to watch. And if you
wind it back to the eighties nineties, you look at
De la Hoya and you bank what great names and
if you want to go way back into history, Jake LaMotta,
Sugar Ray Robinson. This is a quality class, even though
(11:44):
it's not stuffed with well known names now it may
well be. And one of those names is Andre Mkalvit's
the only concern here is his last fight was up
against well a lump called Les Sherrington. Been there, done that,
A journeyman and an old man. He was wiped out
what ninety seconds with a kidney shot by at Mikaylovitch.
(12:05):
Previous to that, his last fight, he got knocked down
on the first by DSN Sualtaran. It was wasn't it.
So he's not in the best prepped shape, if you
know what I mean. He's been an inactive boxer for
the best part of a year. Will that transfer into
the squared circle come Sunday afternoon or not? All I
(12:26):
know is I'll be all over it like a rash
watching this man out of Peach boxing, this orphan out
of Russia who was picked up when he was eighteen
months old. Do good on the world stage. Get on it.
I'm all over him, Andre Mikaylovitch, don't forget that name.
He he comes.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Right, let's get inside this comfy chamber and kick around
the sports topics of the day. You were at the
All Black squad naming obviously, Darcy, we've heard your chat
with Dotton Papa Lee. Were you surprised that there was
just the one change, and an enforced one at that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Did you expect any tactical.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Twigs in around about kind of way? I was surprised.
I thought maybe they might want to say they, I
mean the coaching staff, the coaches, Razor etc. Might tweak,
Maybe the loose forwards they might tweak. But then I
thought about it, thought, you know what, this is faith.
This is what Rais is doing. He's putting faith in
his side to understand what they've learned and then put
(13:29):
it into action again at Eden Park. He don't want
to upset the apple cuts. So really it's quite a
sensible reasoned decision to not change a damn thing.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I know we're in talking about this weekend, but what
does it then say about the game against Fiji on
Saturday week Are we going to see all of the debutantes.
We're going to see Couartiers latim I probably this weekend,
but the other four are we going to see them?
Are we going to see guys like Ethan Blackadder who
hasn't really had a look in, Caleb Clark and other
Are those guys all going to get a game against Fiji?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
It seems like they will, you'd think, so, of course,
let's not underestimate what the Fijians bring. And people may
shrug their sholds and say, oh, don't be silly, but
this is a team on the art with of course
a lot of the members now engaged in super rugby
between with Fijian drawer. I don't expect them to roll them,
but I don't want Razor Robinson going in there thinking
(14:20):
it's going to be an easy beat on neutral territory.
So I don't know. If he rolls all of the
young guys in, it might be just a drip feed
off the bench possibly and rewards for other guys who's
looking at and key position, So I don't think wholesale.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I was looking at that team and thinking before it
was named today, who might be perhaps under threat if
you call it that is, to lose in their position,
particularly in the starting fifteen, and we knew Finlay Christy
was coming in, but the other fourteen and I land
on a guy like Somemer Penny Fee now who didn't
I wasn't sure, absolutely imposed himself physically last weekend. Then
(14:55):
Stephen Petafetta, who had a very good game. But I
heard a couple of things during the week that maybe
hinted at Bowden Barrett coming in there. Do you reckon
he would have had any or they as a coaching
group would have had any temptation to tweak things either
based on four more game plan.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think that with these guys, they knew what they're
doing and they've got a plan for the first couple
of weeks, and short of injury, they weren't going to
adjust that. It's a matter of giving guys the responsibility
of playing well. Look, final wasn't fantastic and we saw that.
It's different arguments. What do you think of Damien McKenzie,
because I've had agon's also of people about his contribution.
(15:29):
I thought it could have been better, but I didn't
think it was helped by his loose forward, so I
thought there might have been a wee bit of a
tweak there that would be the only space though. Do
you think you needed more help, Pony?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, I think so. And it's funny, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I think Damien McKenzie is one of these guys. He's
one man's four out of ten and another man's eight
out of ten, depending on and regardless of out.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They don't read those ratings. Do you come him on, Poney?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
It was a figure of speech, duce, a figure of speech.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But while we're on the topic, I think I did
see two sets of ratings. One had a bit of
four and one had a bit at an eight. They
can't both be true. Look, I think it would have
been really harsh to take the ten jersey off Damien
McKenzie after one test, and they could have body there.
They could have put Parafeta there if they wanted to.
But no, I think he I reckon. They may well
have said to him, d maak, You've got this ten
(16:17):
jersey for the Tow England Tests and as long as
all goes well, we'll also give it to you for
the first bit of the Rugby Championship, just to give
him that security. But he's not always looking over his
shoulder thinking, man, if I have a bad game, I've
got a couple of guys here and might take this jersey.
So if I was Razor and I'm not, but if
I was, I'd be saying to him, here's the security
of these test matches.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Go out there and play uncovered.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Well, that's what the black Caps did for quite some time.
Easier to get what not. What am I trying to say?
What the black Caps did is like we're not going
to knock you out based on a couple of poor performances.
So people get comfortable in their roles knowing, as you said,
no one's looking over their shoulder. And I think that's
really important part of stability there. And I think the
(16:57):
Boden Barrett, he is a guy that offers so much
off the bench and who's to say it has to
be the last twenty minutes could be the last half
and how could be the second half for all you know,
but the security of a season professional like him on
the bench. He's reasonably smart, right.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, it is indeed, all right, more on the All
Blacks tomorrow in the chamber just before we go though England.
Getting the job done this morning, I know you would
have enjoyed Ollie Watkins ninetieth minute Winter Cough. My coffee
up and I was watching it all in bed because
I get morning sun. So you know what, I'm just
going to set up here and bed in my computer
and drink coffee in the sun. So it's is it
coming home or is it going to be a last
(17:32):
minute train wreck? And I thought with the push and
what was happening at the end of that with the Dutch,
I thought that you're going to leak, you are going
to leak.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
But I'll tell you what, that goalkeeper name escapes me.
He pulled off some astonishing saves, so they can thank
him as much as they can thank Ollie Watkins.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Right yeah, indeed, Jordan Pickfordshire man and goal and he's
it gets mixed reviews, I have to say from England
fans because he's a bit shall we say, eccentric, But
then goalkeepers are all mad, so you know he just
fits the bill. So it's Spain against England Monday morning,
seven o'clock. Spain will be overwhelming favorites based on the
way they've played at this tournament.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
But England are there.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
They're getting it at the right time, right, We're starting
to play the right football when they need to, not
early in the peace. So they've managed to somehow binarily
mast their way through. But now they are at the
actual cutting edge, so we can't write them off and
that they may be bringing it home and they may
be on the bus, but I think we all fear
that the driver of the bus is Spanish.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I think you might be right. I think you might
be right.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think it's also convenient way of saying, or of
explaining away, why you weren't playing there well at the
start or we were saving us, saving ourselves for the game.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I've always been in English football.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Apologies you know me too. That is us in the
chamber for another.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Day, dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It's Sports Fix with Jason Vain and Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
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Speaker 4 (19:06):
More sleeps to the rugby few more until the final
of Euro So much going out again this weekend. You
want to catch up with it Piney on ZB between
midday and three SAT. Day and Sunday with Weekend Sport,
and then we cover the rest, don't we, Piney? We
do indeed Sports Talk weeknights between seven and eight.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
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