July 11, 2024 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 12th July 2024, Bryn Hall offers his thoughts on the second All Blacks test against England at Eden Park.
The All Blacks and England have made just the one change each from the first test. For the All Blacks they've brought Cortez Ratima into the team and Finlay Christie will wear the number 9 jersey in place of the injured TJ Perenara. Former halfback Bryn Hall discusses what this means for the All Blacks as they prepare for another stiff challenge for the English.
Plus, Piney joins D'Arcy to discuss how they think the test will go, and Piney couldn't help himself but talk about the Euros as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello and welcome into the Friday edition of the Sports
Fix podcast. I've got a lot of favorite days of
the week. Friday, I think is probably my most favorite
because the anticipation of the weekend is palpable. I'm Jason
Pine alongside.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm Darcy Watergrove and quite literally alongside you're in studio
with me. I love it when you have to come
up to Friday to chase the All Blacks around the country.
It's a good time for all and the day.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, it's a crack a day. Looking forward tomorrow night,
I want to talk quite extensively with you, Darsy and
get some thoughts from you about the All Blacks test
tomorrow night when we enter the chamber. I've got a
few thoughts as well. Are we having a guest on
the podcast today, half.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Back called Bryn Hall. We've been all over the shop.
Very good halfback. Didn't he quite get to where he
wanted to get when it comes to international honors, but
very very so. Talk to him about the half back situation,
because that is the talking point ahead of the second team.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Let's get into it in other.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
News, as we always do, we start with a look
at big sports stories making headlines around the world in
the last twelve hours or so. Biniam Gurmey has secured
the third stage victory on the two hundred and four
kilometer stage twelve of the Tour of the Front.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Tom getting challenged by gurmais Who's going to take him?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Goodbye?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Wins this hat trick of stages in the tour.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Jasmine Paulini has become the first Italian woman to reach
the Wimbledon singles final in the Open era. She's beaten
Donna Vickage in three sets across nearly three hours. I'm
feeling amazing today.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's been a really, really tough match.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Swim was on match and All Black's half back from
Like Christie believes Cortes Labdama is ready for Test rugby
as the chiefs man prepares to debut against England at
Eden Park tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Closely got on really well as soon as you come in.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I didn't really know him who well before this All
Blacks team assembled, but he's really good.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Nine.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
He's had a great season, he's got a great work
ethic and he's just looking to learn.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Leading a vix. We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's Sports vix FW it by News Talks IVY.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Let's talk rugby and why not because it is the
season to be rugby. It's a brand new coach, it's
a brand new team and they're looking down the barrel
of a pretty upset English side who got gazumped by
just one point. Only one change for the New Zeland
side that's at half back. Unfortunately for TJ, he's been
(02:45):
injured out of the game, so Finnly Christie arrives, Brent
Hall joins us. Now, Bryn Bet, you give an I
tooth to be chosen to cover for TJ. Pettina, welcome
to the show mate.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Thanks thanks having me.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I suppose first up being is that as your position
of strength and halfback? What do you make of this
selection of of Finley Christie to climb into that role?
And it made perfect sense he was the second cab
off the rank. But how do you think that's going
to affect what the All Blacks are up to look?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I don't think it's going to be there's not going
to be a lot of change. To be honest, I
think the good thing that I like about Finley, and
he probably doesn't get the reps that he deserves, is
that he's very consistent in all core core role areas.
So a pretty good pass, gets the ball nice and fast,
has a really good at stute kicking game, very good
around the contestables, which we saw in that first Test match.
And I think also his competitiveness around the physicality for
(03:34):
his size, around defense of communicating. So he does all
those things really really well. And every time that I
say with Finlay is that his bad game is an
eight and his good games at ten. So that consistency
that you get with Finlay is is pretty good at
this level. So yeah, I'm not surprised that he's starting
and he's going to do really well. I think at
Adden Park, hit at his home stadium, he.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Could probably do with a bit more help from the
loose forwards. Don't want to be critical, but I am.
They probably didn't hit a HUNDI did. They didn't really
help TJ or McKenzie in that first test. They needed
to be more aggressive, more present, give more room.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
To a certain extent, I think and if you look
in the first half when TJ was on the actual
the quickness around the ball and especially in that first
half was really really good. I think the spookiness of
the England line speed pressure was probably more the kind
of the troubles that we had. So if you look
in that first half, there were maybe three or four
opportunities that the All Blacks tried to get it to
(04:31):
the width, but just with the execution of the linespeed
pressure from the England and probably the skill set wise
in and around that area and on the edge, we
weren't able to get their ball away. So I think
the forwards will know that the physicality right is the
most important part they need to get over the advantage line.
We've got great athletes in the temper that we'll be
able to play off that. But I think as well
as just to understand that that defense is coming and
(04:51):
sometimes you have to play against lin speed to understand it.
You can have that analysis, you can have that preview,
but it's not until you're in the heat of battle.
And those All Blacks boys would have felt that in
the first test. So I actually see them being a
lot better and we'll see a better attacking ability from
the All Blacks On on Saturday night at Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I would say, what do you have to do to
mitigate something like that intense linespeed? Because this has been
something that the All Blacks have struggled with for quite
some time. It seems to be quite a good tactic
to use against them. It's like it's speed and confusion.
So what's the best way through that. Come on, Coach Hall,
let me know.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
There's a couple of ways. We actually talked about it
on our podcast out. I know this is really boring,
but it really is. The first part of it. The
physicality at the breakdown and winning the collisions. It's probably
an area that we struggle at times with big ball carriers.
So you know your lights of your Scott Barrett even
Patrick two Polows is a perfect example of that. When
he gets over the advantage line, it then starts to
(05:42):
give us a good go for ball around getting the attack.
So the physicality around our one to eight is really
important getting that quick ball and then from that it's
been able to on the edge. Like I talked about,
having your depth right, having the ability to get the
ball to the edge through a really good skill set
through the position of where the ball is going to be.
You can't get the ball behind shoulder up higher because
that lines we aprescied that we saw on the weekend
(06:03):
with the thirteen and the fourteen from English. We couldn't
get that ball away. And then lastly, it's your kick game.
You look at Damien McKenzie's ability to be able to
get that cost your kick to severies. Now you've got
to be able to pull trigger when that pitch has
been seen. So it might only happen three or four
times without last defenders inside the fifteen or is it
really really tight with the fallback not there, And you've
got to be able to pull pull trigger. So and
(06:25):
that's the unfortunate thing with the live speed pressure. You're
only going to get a few opportunities in different areas
around that and you've just got to be able to
get it right, which will probably struggle with in the past.
So look, I look forward to seeing what the solutions
and if they can be better in that space, which
is probably we'll just a little bit off on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
It's the execution and I've always talked about this accuracy
and speed. It's super important in any form of rugby.
And this is what you're saying. You've got to be accurate,
you've got to do it quick, and you've got to
be ready to react if that small moment arises so
very present, to use a modern word, Britain.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well tried. I tried. If I'll watched a lot of
code and I do it for a job on my
on my right, soide watch a bit of code. So
but I think it's it's been able to marry up
all those things. And that's the challenge for the All Blacks.
It's not only just the or Blacks, but anybody that
goes up against lightspeed pressure, whether at Super Rugby, you
look at the Hurricanes, they bring a high light speed
pressure and the Chiefs and even the Blues they were
able to nullify that. So you've just got to be
(07:20):
able to do it for a long periods of time.
And again lastly, in the second half, they changed, they
changed their game plan.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We wanted to.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Play a high octane game, but they felt that they
couldn't get around the English and and we weren't able
to attack and execute under pressure, so they went to
a kicking game. Finlay Christie comes on, They go to
the box kick and I think we actually lowered our
our passes throughout the duration of that second half, and
I guess that the work on for that will be
we want the contestable to be on the money so
(07:46):
you can actually contest the ball. There were probably just
a touch too long from Demo and Finlay, even though
they were able to stop ball and all. If you
can get that to a fifty to fifty contest, then
it opens up for the counter attack. Two quick passes.
Then we get our athletes like Talaia severe para filter
which we saw Ben Earl on the weekend. Getting those
guys in the kind of counterattack exchanges be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I've passed seven Saturday night Eden Park very much looking
forward to it as we all are us code heads Brandhall,
thank you very much for your time and please send
my love to Ross Carl and James Parsons.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
It's been too long, oh will Man. I'll no doubt
they look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
This is Sportsfects, your daily dose of sports news. How
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Speaker 3 (08:31):
Few questions about tomorrow night's second All Blacks test against
England Eden Park. What would have been the biggest areas
of focus for the All Blacks during the week after
the first Test. Well, three things. One the collision areas.
England certainly trumped us there last week, so being better
in those collisions. Number Two, finding away to combat England's
rush defense when we have the ball. Cross kicks are
(08:52):
one way Savaric's tried good evidence of that last week,
but quicker slicker ball is another. And three lineouts not
good last week, both with connections and the throwing in.
Cody Taylor and Asafua Moore have big nights ahead tomorrow night.
Will Amien Mackenzie change his pre kick routine after being
timed out last weekend? I doubt it very much. Kickers
(09:14):
are metronomic when it comes to the way they set
up and prepare for kicks a goal. He will also
have the help of a shot clock on the big screen,
which would have been very helpful, I must say last weekend.
How will Cortes Ratima go on debut?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Good?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I think he's been a quality super rugby halfback for
a while. Now looks every inch of player who'll go
well in Black when he gets the opportunity. He'd wanted
it as well with Noah Hotham now also in the
mix and cam Roygard on the improve. Competition for those
half back spots is about to intensify. Will England break
the Eden Park Fortress? It feels unlikely, doesn't it. Something
(09:53):
happens to the All Blacks and to visiting teams on
that particular patch of grass. I mean, how else can
you explain the last thirty years Only six of the
current All Blacks twenty three for Tomorrow Night were even
born when France scored the try from the End of
the Earth in nineteen ninety four. I feel like England's
chance to beat the All Blacks was last weekend. So
(10:15):
who wins and by how many? Well, I just told
you the All Blacks and for me a bit more
comfortably than the one point victory that started Raises reign
in Dunedin. I've got the All Blacks by ten. But
it's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Let's get into the chamber and discuss the big sporting
issues of the day. In fact, that's probably a little
bit false. Ready, I just want to talk about the
All Blacks.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Okay, you're a boss, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I've got a couple of questions for you the first
one we've heard Britain Hall talk about half backs. We
never really know how a guy will go until he
gets out there in the black jersey. What's your assessment
on how Courtees Ratima will go when he gets the
opportunity tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I spake with him a couple of weeks ago before
the final of Super Rugby and he struck me as
a man who's very calm, beyond his years. Young guy
he's seen, very relad He didn't seem overly stressed about things,
and that would be the biggest game he'd be involved
in at Eden Park. Key fixture a lot on him
when he eventually turned up, and he didn't seem to
be bothered at all. I think that having regular time
(11:21):
in the role in that nine jumper has done in
the world of God, who doesn't doesn't matter what you're playing,
you're regularly in that spot, you get that comfort you feel.
So he's got the relationship with the Damian McKenzie. Whether
they end up on the park at the same time
we will have to see. But I think this is,
as Scott Robinson said in the Press yesterday's a young
guy with a lot of talent, and a big future.
(11:43):
I'm sure a lot of us would prefer someone slightly
more seasoned in that role, but it is what it is.
He's there, so raise a slate. You're inmate, go for it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's got the opportunity too, hasn't he Because it is
going to become a crowded field of halfbacks when cam
roy Guard comes back in. Noah Hotham has joined the party.
Now t J Petnado, we understand, isn't really that far away?
Might be four weeks. We've still got Finlay, Christie and
Corti's relaptima. I've just named five half backstars.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Five.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's a crowded field man.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And what about Fakatava who's come back from a really
big entry so he spent a bit of time doing that.
Do you want to go to row as well? As
there a chance to throw that in the mix.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
For Naki, Let's go samk Not. We're all over the place.
We got eight or nine now dark So this is.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Good because we're at a situation we're concerned about depth.
And once the Great and I call him the great
because he is the great, Aaron Smith walked away from
the game at his peak. We're like, okay, what's next.
And Brad Weber of course went overseas one of my favorites.
And Ring he's still floating around as well. He disappeared,
so we're like, okay, what happens now? And all of
(12:49):
these nines put their hand, particularly number nine a half back.
So I was making annoise on that.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Me me yepping away, yepping away.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
This is a good thing. And they're different. Some of
them have got a rounded game. I think when you
look at Roy Guard, he wants to be good everywhere
you go. Some of them are some of them, some
of them are great passes. So that internal challenge can
only be a fruit, I believe. For the All.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Backs on a wider sense, I've been thinking about this
game and thinking about England and how they're feeling. I'm
almost certain in their private moments they thought last week
got away from us. It was the one that got away.
Whether they think this or not, we blow it. We
had the chance to beat the All Blacks in New
Zealand for the first time in twenty one years and
only the third time ever was last week. Their chance,
(13:30):
or is tomorrow night also as good a chance.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's a good enough chance, but I think it was
last week. You look at the history they have second
Test matches from touring British Isles parties and how it works,
and we've had the Lions roll us in the second.
We the Iris just recently rolled us in the second
after a good point big beat up in the first one.
So yes, but it is Eden Park and if you
carry rage into a Test and we missed out, we
(13:56):
got it wrong, that's the wrong attitude. So I think
Borthwick's that kind of coach where he probably wouldn't do
that and they would say they've got to start as chance.
But now some of the rough edges have been polished
up and Scott Robertson has selected essentially exactly the same team,
and I think that it's smart. People are like, wow,
maybe the Lucies might need a bit of a touch up.
What about the midfield. These guys now know how each
(14:17):
other play, They've got their connections best as they have
so far. They've played one testing, they's played a lot
of TESTA member this year as well, so this is
new for us. So I think they'll slot into where
they need to be in Razor. Even though people think
he's mad as a cut Snake is playing sensible selections
and sensible football because he wants the win above anything.
So yeah, they might think they have a chance, but
(14:38):
I think the All Blacks favorites of this one.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, I I agree. I agree. I'm nodding my head
with everything you're saying. Just before we go Euro Final
Monday morning, I.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Was waiting for that. I knew you wouldn't stick around
with the whole time.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We can't be in the chamber without talking about England
and football coming home. Look, the analogy I heard was
that sometimes in a game, you score a last minute
winner off your backside, and it feels like England might
win the Euros off their backside in the last minute.
They haven't been great right throughout this tournament, but they're
in the final against an albit very good Spain side.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But England could win.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Haven't they done that a couple of times in this tournament,
one out of nowhere in the final stroke of the game.
So they get that lot. I'm with you on that.
In the fact that England have not been great, they
are in the final. Yes, that's all you need to be.
They are in a position to win this title, So
forget about what happened, smash the rear vision mirrors of
it doesn't matter. Go in there like you own it
(15:37):
and win it. It's not out of the question at all.
The Spanish you here, what do they say? It's coming home?
Unfortunately the bus driver is a Spanish.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, it's going somewhere.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Where do they have an advantage if you look at
any advantage for England or even Spain, where would it
be for England?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know what it is for England. It's it's almost
and this is a terrible answer. It's an undefinable quality
about this team that, as you pointed out, has allowed
them to get last minute wins, to come from behind,
to win matches, to penalty shootout, to against the odds,
rarely get through to the point where they are now
one of two sides left Bitterley can't win it. Germany
can't win it, the Netherlands can't win it. England can
(16:17):
still win it. It's an undefinable quality and it almost
feels and this is very very you know cliche written
in the stars. But then having said that, Spain rig
and football team, well.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
They are offhanis with one last thing. Gareth Southgate has
been around for a long time now he's taken him
to the verge. He's been right on the cusp. How
many times? This will be his last time in charge?
You almost get the feeling again like saying it. He
kind of deserves it. It'd be a lovely fairy tale finish,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And sometimes fairy tales happen in sports. Sometimes they don't,
but sometimes they do. And that is the fairy tale
finish to the chamber for today.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Nice to too, by the way, too, you didn't have
to go that far of your fairy tale analogy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello and welcome into the Friday edition of the Sports
Fix podcast. I've got a lot of favorite days of
the week. Friday, I think is probably my most favorite
because the anticipation of the weekend is palpable. I'm Jason
Pine alongside.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm Darcy Watergrove and quite literally alongside you're in studio
with me. I love it when you have to come
up to Friday to chase the All Blacks around the country.
It's a good time for all and the day.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, it's a crack a day. Looking forward tomorrow night,
I want to talk quite extensively with you, Darsy and
get some thoughts from you about the All Blacks test
tomorrow night when we enter the chamber. I've got a
few thoughts as well. Are we having a guest on
the podcast today, half.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Back called Bryn Hall. We've been all over the shop.
Very good halfback. Didn't he quite get to where he
wanted to get when it comes to international honors, but
very very so. Talk to him about the half back situation,
because that is the talking point ahead of the second team.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Let's get into it in other.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
News, as we always do, we start with a look
at big sports stories making headlines around the world in
the last twelve hours or so. Biniam Gurmey has secured
the third stage victory on the two hundred and four
kilometer stage twelve of the Tour of the Front.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Tom getting challenged by gurmais Who's going to take him?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Goodbye?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Wins this hat trick of stages in the tour.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Jasmine Paulini has become the first Italian woman to reach
the Wimbledon singles final in the Open era. She's beaten
Donna Vickage in three sets across nearly three hours. I'm
feeling amazing today.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's been a really, really tough match.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Swim was on match and All Black's half back from
Like Christie believes Cortes Labdama is ready for Test rugby
as the chiefs man prepares to debut against England at
Eden Park tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Closely got on really well as soon as you come in.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I didn't really know him who well before this All
Blacks team assembled, but he's really good.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Nine.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
He's had a great season, he's got a great work
ethic and he's just looking to learn.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Leading a vix. We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's Sports vix FW it by News Talks IVY.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Let's talk rugby and why not because it is the
season to be rugby. It's a brand new coach, it's
a brand new team and they're looking down the barrel
of a pretty upset English side who got gazumped by
just one point. Only one change for the New Zeland
side that's at half back. Unfortunately for TJ, he's been
(02:45):
injured out of the game, so Finnly Christie arrives, Brent
Hall joins us. Now, Bryn Bet, you give an I
tooth to be chosen to cover for TJ. Pettina, welcome
to the show mate.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Thanks thanks having me.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I suppose first up being is that as your position
of strength and halfback? What do you make of this
selection of of Finley Christie to climb into that role?
And it made perfect sense he was the second cab
off the rank. But how do you think that's going
to affect what the All Blacks are up to look?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I don't think it's going to be there's not going
to be a lot of change. To be honest, I
think the good thing that I like about Finley, and
he probably doesn't get the reps that he deserves, is
that he's very consistent in all core core role areas.
So a pretty good pass, gets the ball nice and fast,
has a really good at stute kicking game, very good
around the contestables, which we saw in that first Test match.
And I think also his competitiveness around the physicality for
(03:34):
his size, around defense of communicating. So he does all
those things really really well. And every time that I
say with Finlay is that his bad game is an
eight and his good games at ten. So that consistency
that you get with Finlay is is pretty good at
this level. So yeah, I'm not surprised that he's starting
and he's going to do really well. I think at
Adden Park, hit at his home stadium, he.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Could probably do with a bit more help from the
loose forwards. Don't want to be critical, but I am.
They probably didn't hit a HUNDI did. They didn't really
help TJ or McKenzie in that first test. They needed
to be more aggressive, more present, give more room.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
To a certain extent, I think and if you look
in the first half when TJ was on the actual
the quickness around the ball and especially in that first
half was really really good. I think the spookiness of
the England line speed pressure was probably more the kind
of the troubles that we had. So if you look
in that first half, there were maybe three or four
opportunities that the All Blacks tried to get it to
(04:31):
the width, but just with the execution of the linespeed
pressure from the England and probably the skill set wise
in and around that area and on the edge, we
weren't able to get their ball away. So I think
the forwards will know that the physicality right is the
most important part they need to get over the advantage line.
We've got great athletes in the temper that we'll be
able to play off that. But I think as well
as just to understand that that defense is coming and
(04:51):
sometimes you have to play against lin speed to understand it.
You can have that analysis, you can have that preview,
but it's not until you're in the heat of battle.
And those All Blacks boys would have felt that in
the first test. So I actually see them being a
lot better and we'll see a better attacking ability from
the All Blacks On on Saturday night at Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I would say, what do you have to do to
mitigate something like that intense linespeed? Because this has been
something that the All Blacks have struggled with for quite
some time. It seems to be quite a good tactic
to use against them. It's like it's speed and confusion.
So what's the best way through that. Come on, Coach Hall,
let me know.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
There's a couple of ways. We actually talked about it
on our podcast out. I know this is really boring,
but it really is. The first part of it. The
physicality at the breakdown and winning the collisions. It's probably
an area that we struggle at times with big ball carriers.
So you know your lights of your Scott Barrett even
Patrick two Polows is a perfect example of that. When
he gets over the advantage line, it then starts to
(05:42):
give us a good go for ball around getting the attack.
So the physicality around our one to eight is really
important getting that quick ball and then from that it's
been able to on the edge. Like I talked about,
having your depth right, having the ability to get the
ball to the edge through a really good skill set
through the position of where the ball is going to be.
You can't get the ball behind shoulder up higher because
that lines we aprescied that we saw on the weekend
(06:03):
with the thirteen and the fourteen from English. We couldn't
get that ball away. And then lastly, it's your kick game.
You look at Damien McKenzie's ability to be able to
get that cost your kick to severies. Now you've got
to be able to pull trigger when that pitch has
been seen. So it might only happen three or four
times without last defenders inside the fifteen or is it
really really tight with the fallback not there, And you've
got to be able to pull pull trigger. So and
(06:25):
that's the unfortunate thing with the live speed pressure. You're
only going to get a few opportunities in different areas
around that and you've just got to be able to
get it right, which will probably struggle with in the past.
So look, I look forward to seeing what the solutions
and if they can be better in that space, which
is probably we'll just a little bit off on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
It's the execution and I've always talked about this accuracy
and speed. It's super important in any form of rugby.
And this is what you're saying. You've got to be accurate,
you've got to do it quick, and you've got to
be ready to react if that small moment arises so
very present, to use a modern word, Britain.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well tried. I tried. If I'll watched a lot of
code and I do it for a job on my
on my right, soide watch a bit of code. So
but I think it's it's been able to marry up
all those things. And that's the challenge for the All Blacks.
It's not only just the or Blacks, but anybody that
goes up against lightspeed pressure, whether at Super Rugby, you
look at the Hurricanes, they bring a high light speed
pressure and the Chiefs and even the Blues they were
able to nullify that. So you've just got to be
(07:20):
able to do it for a long periods of time.
And again lastly, in the second half, they changed, they
changed their game plan.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We wanted to.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Play a high octane game, but they felt that they
couldn't get around the English and and we weren't able
to attack and execute under pressure, so they went to
a kicking game. Finlay Christie comes on, They go to
the box kick and I think we actually lowered our
our passes throughout the duration of that second half, and
I guess that the work on for that will be
we want the contestable to be on the money so
(07:46):
you can actually contest the ball. There were probably just
a touch too long from Demo and Finlay, even though
they were able to stop ball and all. If you
can get that to a fifty to fifty contest, then
it opens up for the counter attack. Two quick passes.
Then we get our athletes like Talaia severe para filter
which we saw Ben Earl on the weekend. Getting those
guys in the kind of counterattack exchanges be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I've passed seven Saturday night Eden Park very much looking
forward to it as we all are us code heads Brandhall,
thank you very much for your time and please send
my love to Ross Carl and James Parsons.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
It's been too long, oh will Man. I'll no doubt
they look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
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in By News Talks Evy Right.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Few questions about tomorrow night's second All Blacks test against
England Eden Park. What would have been the biggest areas
of focus for the All Blacks during the week after
the first Test. Well, three things. One the collision areas.
England certainly trumped us there last week, so being better
in those collisions. Number Two, finding away to combat England's
rush defense when we have the ball. Cross kicks are
(08:52):
one way Savaric's tried good evidence of that last week,
but quicker slicker ball is another. And three lineouts not
good last week, both with connections and the throwing in.
Cody Taylor and Asafua Moore have big nights ahead tomorrow night.
Will Amien Mackenzie change his pre kick routine after being
timed out last weekend? I doubt it very much. Kickers
(09:14):
are metronomic when it comes to the way they set
up and prepare for kicks a goal. He will also
have the help of a shot clock on the big screen,
which would have been very helpful, I must say last weekend.
How will Cortes Ratima go on debut?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Good?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I think he's been a quality super rugby halfback for
a while. Now looks every inch of player who'll go
well in Black when he gets the opportunity. He'd wanted
it as well with Noah Hotham now also in the
mix and cam Roygard on the improve. Competition for those
half back spots is about to intensify. Will England break
the Eden Park Fortress? It feels unlikely, doesn't it. Something
(09:53):
happens to the All Blacks and to visiting teams on
that particular patch of grass. I mean, how else can
you explain the last thirty years Only six of the
current All Blacks twenty three for Tomorrow Night were even
born when France scored the try from the End of
the Earth in nineteen ninety four. I feel like England's
chance to beat the All Blacks was last weekend. So
(10:15):
who wins and by how many? Well, I just told
you the All Blacks and for me a bit more
comfortably than the one point victory that started Raises reign
in Dunedin. I've got the All Blacks by ten. But
it's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Let's get into the chamber and discuss the big sporting
issues of the day. In fact, that's probably a little
bit false. Ready, I just want to talk about the
All Blacks.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Okay, you're a boss, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I've got a couple of questions for you the first
one we've heard Britain Hall talk about half backs. We
never really know how a guy will go until he
gets out there in the black jersey. What's your assessment
on how Courtees Ratima will go when he gets the
opportunity tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I spake with him a couple of weeks ago before
the final of Super Rugby and he struck me as
a man who's very calm, beyond his years. Young guy
he's seen, very relad He didn't seem overly stressed about things,
and that would be the biggest game he'd be involved
in at Eden Park. Key fixture a lot on him
when he eventually turned up, and he didn't seem to
be bothered at all. I think that having regular time
(11:21):
in the role in that nine jumper has done in
the world of God, who doesn't doesn't matter what you're playing,
you're regularly in that spot, you get that comfort you feel.
So he's got the relationship with the Damian McKenzie. Whether
they end up on the park at the same time
we will have to see. But I think this is,
as Scott Robinson said in the Press yesterday's a young
guy with a lot of talent, and a big future.
(11:43):
I'm sure a lot of us would prefer someone slightly
more seasoned in that role, but it is what it is.
He's there, so raise a slate. You're inmate, go for it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's got the opportunity too, hasn't he Because it is
going to become a crowded field of halfbacks when cam
roy Guard comes back in. Noah Hotham has joined the party.
Now t J Petnado, we understand, isn't really that far away?
Might be four weeks. We've still got Finlay, Christie and
Corti's relaptima. I've just named five half backstars.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Five.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's a crowded field man.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And what about Fakatava who's come back from a really
big entry so he spent a bit of time doing that.
Do you want to go to row as well? As
there a chance to throw that in the mix.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
For Naki, Let's go samk Not. We're all over the place.
We got eight or nine now dark So this is.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Good because we're at a situation we're concerned about depth.
And once the Great and I call him the great
because he is the great, Aaron Smith walked away from
the game at his peak. We're like, okay, what's next.
And Brad Weber of course went overseas one of my favorites.
And Ring he's still floating around as well. He disappeared,
so we're like, okay, what happens now? And all of
(12:49):
these nines put their hand, particularly number nine a half back.
So I was making annoise on that.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Me me yepping away, yepping away.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
This is a good thing. And they're different. Some of
them have got a rounded game. I think when you
look at Roy Guard, he wants to be good everywhere
you go. Some of them are some of them, some
of them are great passes. So that internal challenge can
only be a fruit, I believe. For the All.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Backs on a wider sense, I've been thinking about this
game and thinking about England and how they're feeling. I'm
almost certain in their private moments they thought last week
got away from us. It was the one that got away.
Whether they think this or not, we blow it. We
had the chance to beat the All Blacks in New
Zealand for the first time in twenty one years and
only the third time ever was last week. Their chance,
(13:30):
or is tomorrow night also as good a chance.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's a good enough chance, but I think it was
last week. You look at the history they have second
Test matches from touring British Isles parties and how it works,
and we've had the Lions roll us in the second.
We the Iris just recently rolled us in the second
after a good point big beat up in the first one.
So yes, but it is Eden Park and if you
carry rage into a Test and we missed out, we
(13:56):
got it wrong, that's the wrong attitude. So I think
Borthwick's that kind of coach where he probably wouldn't do
that and they would say they've got to start as chance.
But now some of the rough edges have been polished
up and Scott Robertson has selected essentially exactly the same team,
and I think that it's smart. People are like, wow,
maybe the Lucies might need a bit of a touch up.
What about the midfield. These guys now know how each
(14:17):
other play, They've got their connections best as they have
so far. They've played one testing, they's played a lot
of TESTA member this year as well, so this is
new for us. So I think they'll slot into where
they need to be in Razor. Even though people think
he's mad as a cut Snake is playing sensible selections
and sensible football because he wants the win above anything.
So yeah, they might think they have a chance, but
(14:38):
I think the All Blacks favorites of this one.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, I I agree. I agree. I'm nodding my head
with everything you're saying. Just before we go Euro Final
Monday morning, I.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Was waiting for that. I knew you wouldn't stick around
with the whole time.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We can't be in the chamber without talking about England
and football coming home. Look, the analogy I heard was
that sometimes in a game, you score a last minute
winner off your backside, and it feels like England might
win the Euros off their backside in the last minute.
They haven't been great right throughout this tournament, but they're
in the final against an albit very good Spain side.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But England could win.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Haven't they done that a couple of times in this tournament,
one out of nowhere in the final stroke of the game.
So they get that lot. I'm with you on that.
In the fact that England have not been great, they
are in the final. Yes, that's all you need to be.
They are in a position to win this title, So
forget about what happened, smash the rear vision mirrors of
it doesn't matter. Go in there like you own it
(15:37):
and win it. It's not out of the question at all.
The Spanish you here, what do they say? It's coming home?
Unfortunately the bus driver is a Spanish.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, it's going somewhere.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Where do they have an advantage if you look at
any advantage for England or even Spain, where would it
be for England?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know what it is for England. It's it's almost
and this is a terrible answer. It's an undefinable quality
about this team that, as you pointed out, has allowed
them to get last minute wins, to come from behind,
to win matches, to penalty shootout, to against the odds,
rarely get through to the point where they are now
one of two sides left Bitterley can't win it. Germany
can't win it, the Netherlands can't win it. England can
(16:17):
still win it. It's an undefinable quality and it almost
feels and this is very very you know cliche written
in the stars. But then having said that, Spain rig
and football team, well.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
They are offhanis with one last thing. Gareth Southgate has
been around for a long time now he's taken him
to the verge. He's been right on the cusp. How
many times? This will be his last time in charge?
You almost get the feeling again like saying it. He
kind of deserves it. It'd be a lovely fairy tale finish,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And sometimes fairy tales happen in sports. Sometimes they don't,
but sometimes they do. And that is the fairy tale
finish to the chamber for today.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Nice to too, by the way, too, you didn't have
to go that far of your fairy tale analogy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
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