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Welcome into a fresh episode of the Sports Fixed podcast
for Monday, July fifteen. I'm Jason Pine. Good to have
you along today on the podcast. It is not coming home,
well not to England anyway. Football is not coming home.
And by the time the twenty twenty six Football World
Cup rolls around, it'll be sixty years since England won
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a major men's football trophy. Going to break it down
this morning zero Final with the lost to Spain with
football journalist James Dodd. Elijah a few joins me in
the chamber today to kick around the sporting issues of
the day and some thoughts on how the All Blacks
might line up against Fiji in San Diego on Saturday.
Let's get into.
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It in other news.
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All right, checking out some of the big sports stories
from the day. We have our European Football champions, Spain
champions of Europe yet again and the best team won
it and England's are pressfall and hare Spain winning two
to one in Berlin. The long wait for England goes on.
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Carlos el Carretz has defended his Wimbledon Men's singles crown,
beating Novak Jokovic in straight sets.
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You Ken Sunday retains the ground perfect to last the.
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Most Bradsman twenty one years of age.
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And Tady Pogacia has one stage fifteen of the Tour
de France, extending his overall e to three minutes and
nine seconds over his closest challenger, Jonas Fingergard.
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The Giro tour topper is on.
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This is a pivotal moment in the Tour de France.
Turry Pagachia fourteen stage, winning his.
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Career leading a vix.
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We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Fix.
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You're listening to the sports Flex podcast. To wait for
a major men's football trophy goes on for England. They
lost a heartbreaker two to one to Spain and Berlin.
This morning. Let's bring in football broadcaster and journalists for
the A Leagues formerly of talkSPORT in the UK and
Fox Sports, James Dodd. James, thanks for joining us with
a few hours of reflection. What's your overall assessment of
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the final this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's still a bit raw. Pintier.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I think realistically it's hard to be too disappointed or
too bitter with the result because I think ultimately the
best team on the day and the best team of
the tournament undoubtedly came out victorious in Spain. And I
think if you look at you know, England, as you say,
it will be sixty years since we last won a
major trophy before we head to the World Cup in
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the US, Canada and Mexico. And I think the big
question now is Gareth Southgate. You know, his contracts up
at the end of the end of the year, bizarrely
is up in December rather than you know, at the
end of a tournament like most coaches normally have their
contracts written to.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And I think it's hard to look at.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
The situation now and see how Gareth himself continues because
I think if you look at the way in which
England navigated this tournament, it felt like there were so
many occasions in this in this show piece event in Germany,
where they got by it by the skin of their teeth.
You know, it was an individual piece of brilliance that
kept them in it. Be that Jude Bellingham's overhead kick
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against you know Slovakia or Bicao Sakers equalizer and against
you know Netherlands, and then and I think just you're
in a position now where England have to make a
big decision Piney, I think, and they have to look
at we have the players.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Sure, we're never going to be Spain.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
We're never going to produce the players that are so
comfortable on the half turnaround four players around them and
want the ball physically. I don't think England will do that,
and they don't ever have done that. Maybe the odd
player comes through the ranks here and there, so they
have to look at a coach now who can play
tournament football. And Garis can play tournament football, but it's
being able to play tournament football and make the tough decisions.
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And I think if you look back on this tournament
as a whole, and you look back on the game
this morning, there are probably too many tough decisions that
he ever avoided or flat out didn't make during this tournament.
I think ultimately that's probably why we're now talking about
England having lost back to back European Championship finals and
the wait for the major trophy goes on.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Who then are the candidates to replace him?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Good question if you're looking internally.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I know a lot of people would say probably Eddie
Howe would be the favorite, being as an Englishman.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You know, I think him going in at Newcastle and doing.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So well in the first year that he did, you know,
with the after Saudi Arabian takeover was confirmed, I think
most people probably thought him getting Champions League footballf for
that first season at Newcastle was probably a jump forward
to step two on their plan. I think they maybe
saw Eddie how as the person to get them going
and then bring in a big hitting name, and I
think Eddie Hall probably if Newcastle could identify the right
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big name to take them forward, I reckon Eddie how
would probably be towards the top of England's list. But
you know, they've tried foreign coaches in the past and
some people would say that they don't have a problem
with it. A lot of people say, oh, you know,
it would feel a lot better if we were to
win something as a nation with a homegrown coach. I
personally don't mind either way. I mean, Joguan Klopp is
a name that's been mentioned, whether or not he feels
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the stresses of Liverpool that ultimately saw him say he
wanted to take a break from football.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't think he's going to get a more stressful.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Job than the England national team was to be perfectly
on his tiny So I mean, Jergen clot would be
brilliant because he's also a man, a man manager and
a motivator and someone that you know can get a
team playing an exciting brand of football and you'll know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It as well. You know from New Zealand foot piney.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
It's difficult tournament football because you don't get to spend
a lot of time with the team throughout the year
and you have to try and work on the basics
of the blueprint that you want to implement in a
really short space of time. And a lot of that
does come down to man management. And you know, I
think if you look at Gareth Southgate, one of the
best things that Gareth Southgate has done, undoubtedly during his
time as England manager is he's he's he's made playing
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for England fun again. And I think if you look
and if you listen to a lot of players that
were Ferdinand Stephen Gerard, Frank Lampard actually Cole in the
past have all said a lot of the time they
didn't enjoy playing for England, and I think that's changed.
I think the cultural switch has definitely happened under Gareth Southgate.
But if you're looking for a manager to really get
the best out of the likes of Phil Foden, out
of the likes of dud Bellingham, I think it probably
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will have to be somebody that football fans around the
world go, that's a big name for a big job.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Which English players will leave Germany with an enhanced reputation,
do you think?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I would definitely so.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
If you go from front to back, I'd say Mark
Gwahee at the back in central defense, I think he
was outstanding. You know, there was a lot of talk
about the blow. Some would say the positive, maybe others
would say about.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hary macguhi not being there for England.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
I think Mark Gay He's done an absolutely outstanding job.
Next to next to John Stones at the back. I
think if you're looking at maybe some of the players
going further forward, Cobby Maine at Manchester United was a
player that everybody was excited about when he broke through
a United this year in the Premier League, and he's
really taking his chance after it was given to him.
It took him three games to really get his get
his running the team, but since then he's never looked
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back in terms of, you know, been a duck to
water in the way in which he's navigated you know,
a big, massive, high pressure tournament like the European Championships,
he was fantastic. And I think also, I mean Becaio
Sakers star has always been rising anyway, and I think
if you look at the way he's performed, especially after
what happened to him after the last European Championships where
you know, he missed that decisive penalty and he would
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have been very easy for him to kind of go
into his shell during his England career, but he's come
out the other of it and he's absolutely flying.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So him.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Cole Palmer is another one that you know, everybody wanted
to see after his season with Chelsea, and to score
the goal like he did this morning, it's really you know,
not only highlighted what a bargain he was from Manchester
City for Chelsea, but I think he's probably one of
the next players that's going to be coming into that
team now that's really going to cement their space, and
it gives people like Marcus Rashford, like Jack Grealish, the
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people who were missing out on that squad, it gives
them through food for thought going forward because you know,
there are a lot of those players were routine picks
under Gara South, there were safe picks, and I think
now if you're looking at their spots in the squad
going forward, then they're probably going to feel as though
they're under under pressure to get back in that team.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Because Cole Palmer ever Atch as.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Well as another player was very good when he when
he was given a chance. So I think those are
probably the standouts for me.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Thanks James. That's James Dodd, football broadcaster and journalists for
the A Legs formerly of Talk Sport and the UK
and also Fox Sports.
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SO, two All Blacks tests in the books for twenty
twenty four, FIGI and San Diego this coming weekend. Scott
Robinson's already said, look, we're going to make a few changes.
We're going to give guys opportunities and other guys arrest.
So I've had a bit of a look and here's
the team. I reckon they'll roll out in San Diego
Saturday afternoon. New Zealand sign front row offer talking the
fussy asaf one more Fletcher Nuwell, Scott Barrett I think
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stays there as captain with tupau Vai alongside, and an
all new loose trio Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson on the
open side and a debut for Wallace Setiti off the
back of the scrum. I think Cortees Datima did enough
off the bench the other night to earn a start
against Fiji. Damien McKenzie I Reckon stays at first five,
Antony lennot Brown and another debutant Billy Proctor in midfield,
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Caleb Clark on the left wing, Emonie Nudawa on the right.
They haven't had a chance yet in the first two tests,
and Boden Barrett, the star of Eden Park. I Reckon
starts at fullback. On the bench are your other debutants,
George Bell and Passel Tossi, along with to Mighty Williams
as the front row reserves, Patrick Toey Pilotu and Dalton
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Papalee covering loose forward and Locke and then Finlay, Christy,
Jordi Barrett and Stephen Petafetter. And what that does is
it gives eight guys who started the previous two Test
matches Taylor de Groot, Lomax, Female Savia, Yoanni Reese and
Talaya a weekend off. And Noah Hotham is there for
the ride as well, of course, but I doubt that
he breaks into the top two half backs given he
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was only included after TJ Pett Andala's injury.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's how I do it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
On Saturday afternoon, you'd probably say, well, it doesn't matter
who we roll out, we're probably going to be too
good for Fiji. But I'm really interested to see how
a couple of guys go on debut. Wallace Setiti off
the back of the scrum and Billy Proctor in midfield.
Both of them turned heads in Super Rugby with some
excellent performances and on Saturday they should get the opportunity
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to show that they can transfer that up to Test level.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Is now in session on sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
On the Sports Fix podcast. Time to pop inside the Chamber,
and being a Monday, it is the People's Chamber. Elijah
a few who joins me. Hey's your weekend, mate.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
You're not too bad. I'd say it's been a great
weekend or great day for our Spanish listeners, especially in
the People's Chamber. I think for today we'll rename it
to the Kumbada del Pueblo, which is the People's Chamber
in Spanish. I love it, that is my Spanish teacher
for that one.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Terrific. All right, well, let's delve down into things they
haven't got much to do with Spain. We'll get to
the Euros and to Carlos Alcarez, but can we start
with the All Blacks. Another Titanic Test match on Saturday night,
the All Blacks getting there against England. Across the two
test matches, how happy do you think All Blacks fans
will be with what they've seen at the start of
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Razors regime.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think we should be optimist. I think after those
last two tests were they gave in and gave the
All Backs a good run for our money. But I
think at the same time it's hard to sort of
judge where the All Backs are at until we play
different opposition. And I'm more so talking about Argentina, South Africa, Australia,
probably not Fiji, who will will play this weekend. But
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I think to start off with in the Razor era,
I think things are definitely looking promising.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think, yeah, I agree. I mean you look at
the results first of all, and on those Bear stats alone.
If you said to Razor at the start of the serious, look,
you're going to win two nil, then clearly he bites
your hand off for that. But also clearly there are
some work on the line. Out was interesting Saturday night,
wasn't it, if that's the right word for it.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, I definitely agree. I think especially that first half
was terrible. I'm not really sure what happened there. I
think part of it was to do with Maru ToJ
just been so disruptive, and he's one of the best
locks in the world, so I'm not surprised in that regard,
but that's definitely something needs to be fixed. I think
something that that impressed me was the defense. Was the defense.
I think both of England's tries on the weekend we're
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off cross cooks, and I think other than that, the
All Blacks did really well to hold England off the line.
So that's definitely one area of promise that that I liked.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what happens on Saturday,
because all things being equal, you know they're going to
beat FEGI aren't they And I get the feeling, as
I said earlier on the Sports Fix podcast, that it
will be an almost entirely different team that gets rolled out.
So I kind of wonder what, if anything, will be
able to take from Saturday. What are you expecting in
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San Diego.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I am expecting a lot of the debutantes or those
who haven't been on the field yet to get a run.
Of course, his Rastima has already had a run on
the weekend, but I think he should be the starting
half back. But also you've got guys like Wallace, tit
Pasily or Tossy Billy proc though, who haven't seen the
field yet for the AB So I'm expecting those guys
to get a bit of a run, but I'm not
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sure how that will what that will prove, I guess
long term, I think is more so just to give
those guys a bit of experience at the test level.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I guess it also gives them the chance to push
their case, doesn't it Because if they have an absolutely
storming game catch the eye, then Rays has got a
thinking to do before the Rugby Championship. He adds four
more players to the squad, of course, so those players
who haven't had a lot of time on the grass
will no doubt be wanting to take a claim in
the limited opportunity that they're going to have before the
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squad is expanded. All right to the first of the
Spanish victors today in the early hours of this morning,
Carlos Alkaaz defending his Wimbledon title beating Novak Djokovic. Are
we starting to see that the sun setting on Novak Djokovic?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I think so, But I do want to see Novak
win that twenty fifth Grand Slam. I just don't know
when it's going to happen, because I feel like the
best shold was probably Wimbledon. But Carlos Alcirath has proven
that he's sort of the guy now. He's sort of
taken over and and builds his own past the big
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four that we've been following for years. So hopefully Novak
can get there. But I feel like his body is
breaking down.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I wonder whether the US Open at the end of
this year is his not his last chance, but his
best chance. He won it last year. But then again,
he won the Australian Open and the French Open last year,
and he hasn't won either of those or even got
to the final of either of those this year. I
wonder whether it's it's the US Open or it becomes
a heck of a lot harder for him. I don't
know what you think.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I think it depends on how I mean the knee injury,
for first of all. First of all, he had that
surgery about a month or so out from Wimbledon. I'm
not sure whether that knee can will hold up. Hopefully
this he has a bit of a break between now
in the US Open, but it already depends on how
his body reacts, in my point of view.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And if that wasn't enough for Spain, their football is
then I don't know if you saw it. Carlos Alkareth
afterwards he said, I now we just need my countryman
to do the job in the euro Final, and off
they went and did the jop in Berlin, beating England
two one. Look, there was just such a wave of
hope I think across England that this fifty eight year
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drought that it stands out now was finally going to end.
Spain with a better side though, but you know England
were there, they equalized. Is it ever coming home?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I'm also sure, like I think, if you haven't already
give your English matees a hug or fifty eight, you know,
I am gud for England. I did want them to
win with some of with the roster that they did have.
And I guess Gareth Southgate, the coach, the manager, copped
a lot of criticism during his tenure, but he's really proven.
It's similar to like when Ian Foster and his Rugby
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Old Cup went run with the public and the media
guests sort of criticized the manager and somehow he managed
to leaders side all the way to the final and
they unfortunately ended up and that ended up in heartbreak.
So there are some parallels there. But I guess whether
it's coming home or it's one of the great storylines
in sport, I feel so. I mean, hopefully in a
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couple of years time at the World Cup it does
come home, but yeah, we'll wait and see.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well, in Euro ninety six and this is well before
your time, they were singing thirty years of hurt. By
the time we get to the next World Cup, it'll
be sixty years of hurt, sixty years since they won
the World Cup in nineteen sixty six. Could could Bobby Moore,
Bobby Charlton when they lifted that World Cup back then
and at Wembley in nineteen sixty six possibly have imagined
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it will be sixty years at least until their countrymen
did the same.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I mean, when you think about the line of players
they've had come through as well, the David Beckham's, the
poorst goals, the I mean, Gareth Southgate himself and so
many today's players like Dude Bellingham and etc. I mean,
it's amazing that they haven't won the championship at a
major tournament. So yeah, I guess fingers crossed.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, you're right, Wayne Rooney. You know Alan Sheer a
generation of absolutely tremendous English football as Rio Ferdinand, We
could go on, Stephen Gerard Franklin part none of them
have ever won a major tournament and this lot haven't
managed it either. So the next chance is the World
Cup in twenty twenty six. Give us that People's Chamber
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in Spanish again, just to take us out Elijah.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yes, of course, Lecomada del Pueblo and shout out to
most Spanish teacher adra for that one.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So we look forward to joining you again in the
People's Chamber next Monday. Cheers Bonny.
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