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September 5, 2024 • 19 mins

On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 5th September 2024, the All Blacks are looking to bounce back after a first test defeat to the Springboks at Ellis Park. Rugby commentator Tony Johnson joins the podcast to discuss who might make the team for the Cape Town test.

D'Arcy is full of excitement for what is shaping to be a busy schedule of test cricket for the Black Caps.

Plus, Liam Napier joins the panel to discuss David Nyika's new opponent.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Hi and Darcy ort to go. Thanks for joining us.
This is your place to be when it comes to
the latest and greatest in sports news stories both home
and abroad. Lined up In today's episode, the fifth of
September twenty twenty four, Tony Johnson, renowned that rugby commentator,

(00:42):
joins us to preview the All Black Side. Of course,
when we recorded this podcast, the team was not out yet,
so after five, when the team is released, I can
find out exactly how accurate myself and Tony Johnson had been.
Beyond that, I got some opinion around the start of
an amazing run of Test cricket gets running on Monday.

(01:03):
We'll be joined on the Lina by Lea Napier, New
Zealander Herald's sport It's writer specializing in the beautiful game
of rugby UNI and that's all coming out right here
right now. Remember to subscribe to the podcast if you
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amongst in other news, ninety seconds of sporting noise for

(01:30):
you right out right now. Nando Pinako from the FC's
latest recruits is the Phoenix v. City internal chat on
the All Whites current tour is all good. There are
plenty of players from both A League teams currently on
national duty.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
There's so many of us now from All to Wellington.
So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
We're still friends at the moment, but we'll see what
happens later in the team.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
The field is slimming at the US Open local hope
in the women's for what sixth seed Jessica Bagoulas tip
the number one egas Fion tick out at the quarterfinal stage,
prevailing six two six four US from tv m Z
plus jined Our president Matthew Cooper understands the fans love

(02:24):
affair with South Africa A v. New Zealand classes, as
he's commented on the proposed and all most confirmed quadrnial
tours between the spring Box and the All Blacks. He
also knows his lane.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
They just love seeing the you know, the black jerseys
and the Green jerseys at each other. I think we
just got to keep focusing on the special robbery and
capitalize and all the hype people above my pay grade
work on that old the selective.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
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Speaker 1 (02:55):
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Speaker 2 (03:01):
Join now in the Fixed by Tony Johnson, not longtime
rugby commentator, sports broadcaster. As we look toward the naming
of the team at five o'clock to take on South
Africa to try and avoid yet another loss at the
hands of the spring Box, TJ. Always good to have
you on. I trust your more than well. And wow,
what's this team going to end up looking like? Because

(03:23):
we're both hearing the same thing, aren't we.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Yeah, well, the rumors are that Caleb Clark and Ethan
Blackadder have injuries that will rule them out of the test.
I mean we won't know that until the team's name
for sure, but in particular Caleb Clark, that'd be a
big loss. So I thought he had a terrific game
in the first test. He looked like the one guy
who could really blow holes in the South African defense
of physical mismatch on the left wing against the little

(03:50):
fellow Cheslyn Colby, who's a brilliant player, but he's not
exactly massive, and and of course Clark Ha's just developed
such a good aerial game his ability to pluck the
ball out of the air and almost Ozsie rules style
with two hands above the head. That would be to me,
that would be a huge blow Ethan Blackadder, who was
as usual, honest to goodness one hundred percent, you know,

(04:10):
toiling self against South Africa. If he can't play, then
that also adds some question mark, so to me, if
the rumors are true and those two guys are out,
then it's going to probably lead to a bit of
reshuffling and the loose forwards and the back three, which
probably not ideal. I think the All Blacks would probably

(04:32):
have liked to have gone, and was very close to
what they went onto the field with at Ellis Park.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
The reserves have come under the kosh, the closes, the finishes,
the spark plugs, whatever you want to call them. I
wonder if they were given enough time to actually breathe,
and they were inserted just too late in the peace,
and therefore they weren't as effective as they could have
or should have been.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Tony, Yeah, that's possible. It's quite possible that the only
thing is the starting fifteen were going so well and
you know, guys like Cody Taylor, Yep, they went pretty
deep into the game. It might also reflect perhaps just
a little bit of lack of faith in the bench,
and that to me, this is the big difference between
the two teams at the moment. This, you know, and

(05:17):
I've been following all Black South African Rabies for a
very long time now, Darsi and I do believe that
the spring Box at the moment are probably as good
as they have ever been, if not better. And one
of the big reasons for that is that they've just
got so much depth now and it seems that, you know,

(05:38):
their idea that they can live with scattering players around
the world and bringing them all back together it doesn't
seem to make a difference for them. They've got quite
bold with their selections, and they've got very innovative with
the selections, and you could argue that last week the
team that finished the game was actually stronger than the
team that started the game. I mean, there's some things

(06:00):
in there that I think bear a bit of scrutiny.
To me, they seem to be operating an almost interchange system.
I mean, there were guys coming going and coming back
on again. And I mean, I don't know whether you're
really supposed to do that, but you have to say
that they manage the depth in their squad quite brilliantly.
And that is the hardest thing that this new Zedand

(06:21):
team is having to deal with, because I think we
can match them the All blacksletters can match them blow
for blow in the terms of the run on teams
you know that were named last week. It was just
what happened in the last twenty where yes, the All
Blacks made mistakes, they made judgmental errors, they made execution errors.

(06:44):
They certainly kicked away the ball when they probably needed
to keep it in hand, but maybe some of that
was down to the fact that they were still you
know that the Springboks were just bringing this incredible physical
presence and you know, almost forced them into rash things
as the game we're on because of this bomb squad thing,
which they have just basically ripped up the playbook and

(07:07):
written a new one.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Tony Johnson finally in closing, will star Oeen will be
started with those outside backs Caleb Clark and the size
of that man to get up that high. It's quite extraordinary, right,
So does this mean if he is out and even
if he isn't, maybe Will Jordan gets to come in
at fullback. Maybe Boden Barrett is most effective off the bench,
that's where they move him to and they've got a

(07:30):
couple of little wingers. Is that apossible?

Speaker 6 (07:32):
That would be quite a big shift on what they've
been doing so far. They seem to have been quite
adamant that. You know that McKenzie at ten Barrett at
fifteen is their playmaking axis and I know that Ian
Foster very much felt that Bowden Barrett at starting at
fullback that was their best option, the way to get

(07:53):
the best out of them. So it would be quite
a shift in thinking if they were to do that.
Just got to think about what they bring and what
they're playing against. You know, Barrett at the back, you know,
the ability to pop up at that alternate first receiver,
that that's the strength that he brings. Jordan, you know,
obviously with his electrifying running game out of the backfield.

(08:18):
You know, maybe they think that's something that they could
profit from. I don't know. To me, to completely reshuffle
the back three, there'd be a risk involved in that,
So you end up going in with Jordan at fullback
to Leah and Reese on the wings. You know whether
they feel the situation is desperate enough that they have

(08:41):
to do that. I guess we're about to find out, Darcy.
My thinking is if Clark's out, they might stick with
Barrett at fullback. It would be a bit of a
surprise to see them deviate from that. But it look
anything's possible and that that may be what ends up happening.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
All revealed at five o'clock ahead of another huge encounter
between the spring Box and the All Blacks. Tony Johnson
and never Atture. I love talking COVID with you, my friend.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Kiss Dars you welcome.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
This is Sportsfax, your daily dose of source us how
in By News Talks, Evy.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Test cricket a the b all and end all of
a beautiful game. Yeah, T twenty has its place. It's
a wee bit of fun. It's a couple of hours
over a dozen fine, not that I can drink a
dozen and a couple of hours and one day. International
cricket it has its place. We know, it's got a
wonderful World Cup and so on and so forth. Test

(09:37):
cricket is where it's at. That's what all cricket tragics
love to watch. That is a perfect excuse to spend
five days in front of the TV or at the
ground sucking in the joy of the pace of Test cricket.
Nothing can happen for hours and in the space of
an over the whole game can be turned on its head.

(10:00):
And that's what you're waiting for. And starting on Monday,
the black Caps get back into Test cricket mode. It
is red all frenzy for the best part of a
couple of months. Six consecutive tests against Afghanistan, Sri Lanka
twice and three against India, more than a row all

(10:20):
on the subcontinent before they tear back to New Zealand
and take on the might of England. This is going
to be an extraordinary way to usher in the joy
of summer. I'm not sure about yourself, but I know
I'm gone. As soon as I finished work at eight
o'clock at night, I'm back. I'm in front of the
TV for four hours, sucking it all and digesting the joy,

(10:43):
the pace, the nature of the real version of crickets
Test cricket, and if there's a sterner examination of talent
and skill. Then on the subcontinent in India playing against
those rock stars, I don't know what is. We've got
a wonderful squad going over there. There are positional jostling

(11:04):
all over the play and I suggest that the most
difficult thing about this is the selection. There are so
many players who offer so much in the subcontinent, very
keen to see who shines. And of course we're all
looking forward to seeing what a jazz Patel can do
this time around. Maybe another ten wicket bag we will see.

(11:26):
This is going to be a phenomenal way to usher
in summer Test cricket.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Here we go again.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfex.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
And it's warm, welcome and to the lean to Liam Napier,
New Zealand held at Rugby Scribe, oh and other sports
as well. Liam. We're not one trick pony, surely are
we welcome?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
No, that's right to us men of many talents and
great mustaches.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Fantastic. If those don't know what we're talking about, forget
about it. You're never going to understand. So a couple
of issues around today that the big one is the
All Blacks team to be named, and of course they're
going to be playing in the early als of Sunday
morning from your point of view, But regardless of who's
in the black jersey, because they should all be interchangeable,
what do we actually need to see out of these guys?

(12:16):
What are the big differences around coaching, around application, attitude
and the like.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Well, much of the same, to be fair to So
I think Gil Black's got it right big time for
sixty minutes, and then they got it horribly wrong in
the last twenty. So it's pretty clear the areas that
they need to identify and work on. It's the impact
from the bench. It's how you close out the game.
It's how you maintain the ten point lead and put
your foot on the throat when you have a team

(12:44):
under serious pressure. So bill Bicks were very good for
sixty minutes. They did a number of things well. They
set peace, their attack, their defense was really good. It's
just about amending that final quarter collapse.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, two things there. One of them is disciplined, plainly.
The second one it was the shadow of the bomb
squad too much to These young guys just panic when
they look to their reputation as opposed to what they
provided because the bomb squad started off a bit shaky,
didn't they.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
They did, and you could say that about the widest
Springbok team there under a lot of pressure made to
make mistakes in terms of the bomb squad.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Look, I don't think it was a fair fight, Dus.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
You had a number of inexperienced prospects thrown in the
deep end, the white hot heat of the most intense
atmosphere in world rugby up against the bench that was
vastly experience that's been doing that role for the best
part of two three years. So and this is nothing new.
The All Blacks have failed to score a point in
their last three tests after the fifty second minute mark,

(13:48):
and they've lost two of those tests. So it's clearly
an area that needs addressing. The All Blacks bench needs
more experience to be able to match fire with the
fire when it comes to the box bomb squad.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
What does Robertson do Because it's in his hands. He's
the coach, He's the one who's pulling the string. So
do you think that possibly the reserves when they came on,
came on a little too late, Maybe that they had
a bit more time or maybe just don't use them
at all. Because the team was playing fine up until
the reserves came on. I meant that could be real

(14:20):
new school, couldn't. It's like, you know, we don't need
a bomb squad. We're just running our fifteen. See what happens.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
There's different ways to skin the cat, aren't there does?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
So I think there's definitely a lack of trust in
the All Black spench, and that's because of their inexperience.
They go into them very late in the last fifteen,
in some cases ten minutes of the match. That's barely
enough time to warm into it, get your hands on
the ball, get a feel for it, make a genuine impact.
So I think you'll see a lot more experience on
that bench, whether that's a TJ ped Andarra Boden Barrett

(14:51):
type characters that there needs to be a better balance
so you can trust and inject that impact that you're
looking for. And then it's about the tactics. Don't kick
away the ball so much, stick to what's working. Attack, attack, attack,
keep putting the spring box under pre don't go into
your shell, don't protect the lead. This test match won't

(15:12):
be the same, but the All Blacks need to mentally
not go into their shell and just really continue to
take the game to the box, because when they did,
they had them on the ropes.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's an odd thing to say, but back in the
day the All Blacks are unbeatable in between World Cups
and then they just like basically saw the bead sheets
and it came to the World Cup. Maybe we're getting
at the right order now, work out the problems, work
out the issues the team has, and when the World
Cup comes they'll hit the ground running with the flames
at their feet. Or am I just asking too much?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Well, look, that's certainly a theory that Scott Robinson would
hope that's going to come through over the next four years.
I think without doubt this is an All Blacks team
in transition. They're still finding their identity, still working out
the best players in certain positions. We've seen a lot
of change, a lot of conservatism when it's come to

(16:03):
selection at times, and the Springbok team by comparison, is
largely the same team that won successive World Cups. Essentially,
they've injected a bit of young blood, their coaching teams
a wee bit different, but they've got the same coach,
a number of the same experienced players, and their blueprint

(16:24):
is largely the same. They have evolved, but it's a
huge task to go to South Africa and play the
box at their spiritual home at altitude in Cape Town,
and the All Blacks are a massive lore.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
But it's a big task. But this is the All Blacks.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
We have massive expectations on them for a reason that
we demand that they win, and that will be the
case this weekend.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Hey, let's ever just a quick word about this American gatekeeper,
this southpaw who's been jetted in the last second to
take on David Nieker. The original opponent plainly got done
for drugs. Blake Caperello failed at Vard to test this guy.
Tommy Cumpency is in now, they say gatekeep. He's been
around for a long time, teen years. He he hasn't

(17:12):
fought a lot recently, but I suppose I've got to
put someone in there. Does this take away from the
fight card? Does? Doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, it's a big change, starts ten days out from
the event and you're changing the headline acts. It's real
set back in a challenge for David Nacre. He's prepared
exclusively for Australian applonment Blake Caporello, who, as you point out,
failed a VADA test for elevated testosterone. So I've had
to really scramble behind the scenes for another opponent and

(17:42):
done reasonably well, I think in the circumstances. The American
as a thirty eight year old eighteen year career, as
you say, has only fought once in the past three years,
but has lost three world title fights previously. The last
of those was in twenty fifteen. So the good thing

(18:04):
for David Nakere is he's a south poor as well,
so in terms of an adjustment, it's not going to
be a major, but it is going to be. It
is a bit of a spanner in the works and
interesting to see how that potentially affects his preparation.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, Duco can line him up and Nika can knock
him down, and that's I think what we all want
to see. Good on your Liam, Thanks for your time,
my friend.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
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Speaker 2 (18:33):
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(18:55):
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