October 1, 2024 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Wednesday October 2 2024- Tim Southee has relinquished his test captaincy with the Black Caps. The senior seamer has pulled the pin after four consecutive defeats, saying that it’s best for the team. Former coach and player John Bracewell makes an appearance to discuss Tim’s decision.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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of October twenty twenty four.
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But really, right here, right now, what have we got
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Surely I'll catch up with John Bracewell, format New Zealand player,
former New Zealand's coach, on the news that Tim Suvie
has walked away from the job as the black Caps captain.
We'll talk to John about what makes a good cricket captain,
what he makes of the fact that Tim Souvee would
appear as fallen on his sword. I've got some opinion
(01:01):
around the Delhi MS's the big ceremony this evening for
the nr L, the relevance of it, where they're into it,
where they're out of it, whether you even care and
then Alex Pannell joins us in the chamber, leaning on
the Lena to talk about the big sports stories of
the day. We've got to irond up and read it
a knock over, so let's get a minx. In other news,
(01:27):
let's have an airport now of the sports newsmakers, Tim
Salvi has called it time as toss maker for the
black Caps. The Seema has been in the national men's
cricket teams driver's seat for the last couple of years,
but in the last four matches he's put the team
in the ditch with a bit of panel damage. Tim
Salvi has sacrificed his captaincy for the good of the
(01:47):
side ahead of the three Test and gim tour.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Like I said, disappointing tour was an ideal.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We're looking at three Test matches in the subcontinent again,
which is exciting challenging itself into you're playing some great crickets.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So see you just about what's what's best for the
team moving forward to that series.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Tasmin fallback Maca Springer has loved carrying the freshly won
ran fairly sheld effect that has had on the community
has taken them by surprise they defend the legendary slice
of free tonight against Auckland. It's more than you kind
of realize.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
It's been a huge impact on the community, not just
for us.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
For us then we run.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's been pretty cool to go out to these goals
and even the community.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Place like that and then show the shield and see
how much extraman.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
System people athletics and is on Bosque can.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Mitchell says, oh a benefit from a change of hosting
requirements and may well become the first Oceanian nation to
host the biennial World Indoor Athletics Championships.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Twenty twenty eight Wood ATHLETs and twenty three changed the
rules so it could actually be a short track which
is a two hundred meter.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Track and can be in an outdoor venu.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So that makes it possible for countries like ours that
don't necessarily have massive indoor facilities.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Talk Talk, talking sport, news and opinion. It's Sportsfix with
Dancie Waldegrave.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Big Award ceremony tonight Australia. The NRL celebrate Dally M.
This is the greatest players right across the year of
the NRL and their wonderful season. I say wonderful because
I'm a fan and I cannot wait, But I'm going
to have to until the final coming up with the
Penrith Panthers take on the Melbourne Storm a clash for
(03:29):
the ages.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But tonight they will put their glad.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Rags on, grab their significant other and if they go
to a bigger event where they all pat themselves on
the back and hand out awards, the dally M Prop
of the Year the DM second rower of the the
list goes on. Then of course the Dalm itself for
the Player of the Year. Looks like Jerome Hughes's hands
down to win that one, which is not bad for us,
(03:55):
being as that he's got a New Zeland blood and
he plays for the Kiwi, so we'll take that bill.
In all honesty, does any of it really matter?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I couldn't care less who wins Dalim or who doesn't
dally M. I appreciate that for the players, it's a
wonderful night for most of them to be able to
let their hair down after a long and aggressive season,
to hang out with their mates, to have a couple
of jars a nice feed. I got no problem with
that at all. But as far as awards, you are
(04:25):
the best of this, you are the best of that.
What's the point There is only one award in the
NRL that anybody wants, the coaches, the players, the administrators
specifically the fans, and what is that award? They want
the trophy of two blokes hugging you win the NRL.
Everything else is completely insignificant, including the much lauded Dally.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
M Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It's SPORTSFX with Darcy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We'll jore now buy formu is illand a cricket coach
to John barraswall as we look at captain see for
the black Caps.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
John, Welcome to the show. It was good to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You of course had a couple of captains under you
or watch that were rather handy. I mean it's probably
an understatement, I suppose. First question, Tim Sowvey has turned
in his captaincy A good move, do you think from
Tim after what happened in Treelanker and against Australia.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, not necessarily in regards to captaincy. I think Tim,
Tim's a good captain. It's it's more in regards to
the pressure of form. I would have thought and and
and the honesty of the fact that if you're not necessary,
if you're not necessarily the first on or first few
on the on the team sheet, then are you warranting
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your place not necessarily your leadership. You've got to be
able to secure your your your skill sets first and foremost,
and then your leadership in and around that. You know,
this is a side that's actually pretty gifted with some
senior players came Williamson still has. You can see that
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a great influence on the field. Often looking to players
and groups. You've got Blundle who's been around quite a
while now, who can actually read the game.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
From behind the stumps.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And then you've got Tom Latham who's captain the game
in one day format and Test matches anyway. So they've
got a lot of leaders to choose from within the
side that allows them that luxury of saying, Okay, our
captain needs to be on the team sheet and we
can't carry anybody if we are to move forward. And
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they're getting to that point where on certain conditions, and
certainly after a heavy workload, Tim doesn't necessarily secure that
number one spot as a bowler.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
A good decision from Tim Souey and abatted buy a
New Zealand cricket or do you think he's gone? Actually,
writing's on the wall. I need to get back to
bowling because that's what I do best. Because I think
John and some players, when they're dealing with two forms
of ability, one to be a captain and one to
be a batsman or a bowler, sometimes it's overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's too much for them. Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think in Tim's case, and I've known him for
a long long time, he comes from a big background
of team sports. He understands the dynamics of teams, team play.
He's come through under Stephen Fleming initially, Daniel Vittori and
Brendan McCallum. He understands the dynamic in the history of
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New Zealand cricket and the needs for a high standard.
And I think he has fallen on his own sword.
I don't think he's been pushed on it. I think
he's understood the dynamics. He knows he's got Matt Henry
in the background who can easily shift into his position
and repeat his skill sets, and therefore he has to
get his skill sets back up to warrant his place
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within the side.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You talked about the ability to get your place in
the team John Bracewell, who joins us, and that first
and foremost is that a standard for coaches, for cricket
teams in general, that's the first thing they check off.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, yes, well is it?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I think it certainly is. I think it certainly is
in countries that have extreme amount of depth where you
obviously you decide on the style in which you want
to play and then you go and find the players
that can actually fit that style. In New Zealand, we
tend to pack our best players and then try and
adapt our style. Now at the moment we have a
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guy like Matt Henry and we have a huge amount
of all round spinners and things like that, so we
actually have are in a position of slight luxury where
we can go hold on what's our best skill set
to play in the subcontinent. And I think you know,
picking O'Rourke was it was a real bonus for us
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and his skills that came through the fact that he
maintained his pace through two test matches. But you could
still see Tim's pace dropping off as the longer a
Test match went on and the longer he has to
stay in the field, so he needs to be rotated anyway.
We know that in New Zealand, certainly in pre Christmas
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Test matches which we're going to have against England, he
will be a vital component because he is a very
good user of the wicket and certainly is a very
good user of green grass and a new ball. So
he hasn't he hasn't lost his selectorial rain as such,
but it is becoming limited and the limited limitations are
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probably asia on really flat wickets.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
John Bracewell.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
When it comes to selecting a captain, yes, they're going
to get on the team sheet.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
What position is a captain best?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We normally see someone who stands in the slips, somebody
who bats a bit, as opposed to someone who bowls
and stands out at third man. Is there an ideal
position for a cricket to take the captaincy.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, well let's just clear that up. I mean symptoms
how he is an outstanding slip fielder, so he does
get involved in the game and he's normally either standing
at mid off or mid on or short catching position
in front of the wicket or his third slip so
he's always there or thereabouts around that action. He doesn't
and it's very, very seldom does he end up and
go grazing out in the outfield. So his information and
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his communication is good and it's always close at hand.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And that's the key.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
You've got to be in a position where you are
gathering information, sharing information and keeping your your your your
bowlers on on task and making sure that you are
close to knowing when they're at their peak and when
they're starting to decline in a spell, and when those
spells need to be changed in accordance with the game
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plan that you've put in place.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax and the
Chamber Now. We're digital sport editor for New Zealand Day Herald.
Hello Alex Powell. How are you today?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Okay mate, it's been a massive day.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
There's been a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Sometimes you're roll into the office like oh it, there's
nothing out there, it's dry, and you start digging through
the digital mind for what of a content you can find?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Not today, right?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No, Well, there's neverne in between. It's either fallse to
the wall or there's nothing happening.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's been an avalanche.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Avalanche started with Tim Souby falling on his sword, and
I'm presuming that he made that call, not New Zealand Cricket.
I think he saw the riding on the wall. Anyway,
you know, I'm not performing like I should do so
for the team because he's very much a team player.
I need to relinquish this role. Does it sound about
right to you?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That was the exact sentiment that he spoke about. We
went out to the airport this morning to talk to
Terman to CEO Scott Win and I didn't see this coming.
I thought Tim Soudy was absolutely going to continue until
he was told otherwise. But he's taken it to fall
on his sword and fair play Tom Watham the man
to lead in India, which I think might be a
bit of a blessing in disguise because they can now
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pick the team they need to pick, rather than be
weighed down by having to have your catch.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And Tim Soudy though, is going to be part of
New Zealand for the next couple of years, you'd expect,
and when it comes to the English home series, his
ability on those greenish decks the start of summer i'd
say will be invaluable.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It'll probably get picked the India, but.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I don't know if we'll get used. It might be
idly to have a cup of tea to lie down
and come back. I suppose smoking will come the English.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Depending on how they want to pick the team. If
you're looking at a bowling attack where Matt Henry has
to play, Will O'Rourke has to play, and you come
down to Tim Sowthy or Ben Sears, who are you picking?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, you're not going to run three seamers, are you?
In those three Test matches? Are you?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I'm talking about against England? Sorry, not against against England.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Wow. I think the South's experienced been able to hoop it,
but like he's he wants to you see what I
mean though about I don't think he's gone forever, but
I don't know if you'll go to India.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, I think this is what the issue is now,
isn't it that? Because you talk about the green pictures
we get in New Zealand. He didn't take work it's
on them last summer against South Africa. He didn't take
him against Australia. You know whether or not that's because
Captain C may be affected form who knows, But I
think if we are going to say, like Tim Southy
is what turning thirty six? You know there is definitely
a lot more yesterday than there are tomorrows for him.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You're an agist, How could you now?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I'm over thirty now, so no one's allowed to have
fun ha ha.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, I might even mention what I'm doing in that space.
So Tom Latham takes the captaincy over, he will get
picked in the side first and foremost. That's what you
look at for a Test captain.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Is it not?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I mean yes and no. I mean you're right he's
going to play all those Tests in India. But is
he the best captain tactically? I'd still say King Williamson's
the best tactician, but he doesn't want to do the
job anymore. Tom Latham is a very good captain of
spin bowling, which I think they're going to need in India.
He's done the job before. He's one Test as captain
before the Warriors. He also doesn't have a very good
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record as a batter when captain. I think his career
averages around thirty nine. That drops about thirty four when.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's a case of who else though.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Wasn't it well, dear Lobb, that grenade a young buck
like Racham Ravendra for example, like when Stephen Fleming got
the role of similar eight.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Well, that's the thing, because Ratch's the only one you
look at, like Glennwarp's pat too crazy to be captain,
Darrell Mitchell was probably too old. Tom Blunder, you're looking
at and thinking, I don't want to give you too much.
If you're going to bat in the top six, keep
worker and then also captain. I mean so, I mean
Devin Conway doesn't have a contract, Camlinson doesn't have a contract.
Do you give it to another bowler? Probably not, because
there's like Matt Henry, can he captain? I wouldn't think so.
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I don't think he's captain in a level. So they
are really between a rock.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And hard place.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
CEO Scott Wennick did say there was a number of
candidates discussed, but Tom was the unanimous choice.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, well was from the best for that for the
three tests. There's now it hard. I've seen what the
Indians have done at home just recently. They're putting teams
to the sword.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
It's actually terrifying, and we're going to get a pitch
just as bad as that three types.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
This Indian TV show that we're all watching called cricket. Anyway,
let's move on to our next topic. Back in the
day when he got picked, he was like Justin Bieber.
I think James O'Connor has developed somewhat since those hell days.
He certainly beefed up, bucked up a lot of experience.
Crusaders need this, don't they.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, I mean so obviously this story. I don't know
if you're talking about the Ceiland and show that James
O'Connor fantastically broken by his it news dogs EPs and
Neck Bailey well done, Neck. Yeah, it's It's one of
those signings that you look at and go a But
then the more you think of it, the more it
does make sense. They need a ten. They've lost Fergus Burke,
who was far away their best option but only played
a handful of games last year, like David HEVELI played
at ten. That's how desperate they were. James O'Connor. I've
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always had a lot of time for James O'Connor. He's
played just about every position in that Australian back line
by bar halfback, and.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He's got international experience, it's been around. He understands how
to transfer skills and work into a different squad, which
when you come in as a hit man for basically
a season, which is what he's doing, you have to
have that ability to hit the ground running.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
He's got that.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, absolutely, I'll put the studio. Is this where super
Raugben needs to go? Do we need more OSSI's playing
in New Zealand? Do we need more key he's playing
in Australia. If it's the way around, and we say
all right, well Britchie manger to the waratas then you
know where I come from.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So that do you think Richie's going to come back
with lessifying a nuku and he'll take that first five
job role.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So that's why there's a bit of a caretaker going on.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That's a good job. But okay, so that's not Richard Marga.
Then say it's Brett Cameron and we start seeing an
exchange of players both sides of the Tasman. Is that
what this competition needs?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The problem with that is that I don't see any
more money for the New Zealand players, which is predominantly
why they leave New Zealand. They go overseas to make
the bucks. They're not going to do it playing in
Australia and then New Zealand lose Young New Zealand all
blacks and rugby players being right in front of their
fan base, which is why they want to keep them here.
So I don't know if you solve anything doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
No, we'll put that on the pile of problems with
super Rugby that don't seem to have a fixed and that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
News is not through yet, but we'd expect it would
come through.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Short end of the month is when the squads are named.
Want talk about the Delians. Jerome Hughes is the big
one tonight. You know he should be up for the
top prize. He was in contention when the vote went
behind closed doors at the halfway point and he's only
gotten better since then. He's in the Grand Final. Surely,
like Nathan Clear, he has missed so much of the season.
There's no one who can challenge to Rome. Surely we
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did say that about Sean Johnson last year.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Just about to say that, but I shan't.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And so what about the other positions, because I see
big Steve Rice has come out and see May Barnett
should be in the Prop of the Year.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But no, it's Vanilla Blake who's been given the nod.
From a New Zealand perspective.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I mean that was another one that you just looked
at and thought, what because it's not as you know,
Faniela Blake's in. They're fair enough. He is an anial
leading prop. You've got James Fisher, Harris Moses Leoda both
of the Panthers. You've got Lindsay Collins from the Roosters
and Joe Tarpne from the Raiders. There were all good players,
but Mitch Barnett's had one of the best seasons in
the comp. Surely that means something like he was playing
that well. He won the Warriors Player of the Year
(17:54):
what over Adam Fanil Blake, and I'd say that would
basically qualify him to be a bit of prop that
ad in phanild Blake this year and on that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
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It'd be welcome on into the Sports Fixed podcast. My
name is Arsky, Wall to Grave. It is the second
of October twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here's the home of all the sports news you need today.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And I want to climb on air on News Talks
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
But really, right here, right now, what have we got
for you today?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Surely I'll catch up with John Bracewell, format New Zealand player,
former New Zealand's coach, on the news that Tim Suvie
has walked away from the job as the black Caps captain.
We'll talk to John about what makes a good cricket captain,
what he makes of the fact that Tim Souvee would
appear as fallen on his sword. I've got some opinion
(01:01):
around the Delhi MS's the big ceremony this evening for
the nr L, the relevance of it, where they're into it,
where they're out of it, whether you even care and
then Alex Pannell joins us in the chamber, leaning on
the Lena to talk about the big sports stories of
the day. We've got to irond up and read it
a knock over, so let's get a minx. In other news,
(01:27):
let's have an airport now of the sports newsmakers, Tim
Salvi has called it time as toss maker for the
black Caps. The Seema has been in the national men's
cricket teams driver's seat for the last couple of years,
but in the last four matches he's put the team
in the ditch with a bit of panel damage. Tim
Salvi has sacrificed his captaincy for the good of the
(01:47):
side ahead of the three Test and gim tour.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Like I said, disappointing tour was an ideal.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We're looking at three Test matches in the subcontinent again,
which is exciting challenging itself into you're playing some great crickets.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So see you just about what's what's best for the
team moving forward to that series.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Tasmin fallback Maca Springer has loved carrying the freshly won
ran fairly sheld effect that has had on the community
has taken them by surprise they defend the legendary slice
of free tonight against Auckland. It's more than you kind
of realize.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
It's been a huge impact on the community, not just
for us.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
For us then we run.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's been pretty cool to go out to these goals
and even the community.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Place like that and then show the shield and see
how much extraman.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
System people athletics and is on Bosque can.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Mitchell says, oh a benefit from a change of hosting
requirements and may well become the first Oceanian nation to
host the biennial World Indoor Athletics Championships.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Twenty twenty eight Wood ATHLETs and twenty three changed the
rules so it could actually be a short track which
is a two hundred meter.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Track and can be in an outdoor venu.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So that makes it possible for countries like ours that
don't necessarily have massive indoor facilities.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Talk Talk, talking sport, news and opinion. It's Sportsfix with
Dancie Waldegrave.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Big Award ceremony tonight Australia. The NRL celebrate Dally M.
This is the greatest players right across the year of
the NRL and their wonderful season. I say wonderful because
I'm a fan and I cannot wait, But I'm going
to have to until the final coming up with the
Penrith Panthers take on the Melbourne Storm a clash for
(03:29):
the ages.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But tonight they will put their glad.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Rags on, grab their significant other and if they go
to a bigger event where they all pat themselves on
the back and hand out awards, the dally M Prop
of the Year the DM second rower of the the
list goes on. Then of course the Dalm itself for
the Player of the Year. Looks like Jerome Hughes's hands
down to win that one, which is not bad for us,
(03:55):
being as that he's got a New Zeland blood and
he plays for the Kiwi, so we'll take that bill.
In all honesty, does any of it really matter?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I couldn't care less who wins Dalim or who doesn't
dally M. I appreciate that for the players, it's a
wonderful night for most of them to be able to
let their hair down after a long and aggressive season,
to hang out with their mates, to have a couple
of jars a nice feed. I got no problem with
that at all. But as far as awards, you are
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the best of this, you are the best of that.
What's the point There is only one award in the
NRL that anybody wants, the coaches, the players, the administrators
specifically the fans, and what is that award? They want
the trophy of two blokes hugging you win the NRL.
Everything else is completely insignificant, including the much lauded Dally.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
M Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It's SPORTSFX with Darcy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We'll jore now buy formu is illand a cricket coach
to John barraswall as we look at captain see for
the black Caps.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
John, Welcome to the show. It was good to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You of course had a couple of captains under you
or watch that were rather handy. I mean it's probably
an understatement, I suppose. First question, Tim Sowvey has turned
in his captaincy A good move, do you think from
Tim after what happened in Treelanker and against Australia.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, not necessarily in regards to captaincy. I think Tim,
Tim's a good captain. It's it's more in regards to
the pressure of form. I would have thought and and
and the honesty of the fact that if you're not necessary,
if you're not necessarily the first on or first few
on the on the team sheet, then are you warranting
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your place not necessarily your leadership. You've got to be
able to secure your your your skill sets first and foremost,
and then your leadership in and around that. You know,
this is a side that's actually pretty gifted with some
senior players came Williamson still has. You can see that
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a great influence on the field. Often looking to players
and groups. You've got Blundle who's been around quite a
while now, who can actually read the game.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
From behind the stumps.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And then you've got Tom Latham who's captain the game
in one day format and Test matches anyway. So they've
got a lot of leaders to choose from within the
side that allows them that luxury of saying, Okay, our
captain needs to be on the team sheet and we
can't carry anybody if we are to move forward. And
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they're getting to that point where on certain conditions, and
certainly after a heavy workload, Tim doesn't necessarily secure that
number one spot as a bowler.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
A good decision from Tim Souey and abatted buy a
New Zealand cricket or do you think he's gone? Actually,
writing's on the wall. I need to get back to
bowling because that's what I do best. Because I think
John and some players, when they're dealing with two forms
of ability, one to be a captain and one to
be a batsman or a bowler, sometimes it's overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's too much for them. Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think in Tim's case, and I've known him for
a long long time, he comes from a big background
of team sports. He understands the dynamics of teams, team play.
He's come through under Stephen Fleming initially, Daniel Vittori and
Brendan McCallum. He understands the dynamic in the history of
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New Zealand cricket and the needs for a high standard.
And I think he has fallen on his own sword.
I don't think he's been pushed on it. I think
he's understood the dynamics. He knows he's got Matt Henry
in the background who can easily shift into his position
and repeat his skill sets, and therefore he has to
get his skill sets back up to warrant his place
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within the side.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You talked about the ability to get your place in
the team John Bracewell, who joins us, and that first
and foremost is that a standard for coaches, for cricket
teams in general, that's the first thing they check off.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, yes, well is it?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I think it certainly is. I think it certainly is
in countries that have extreme amount of depth where you
obviously you decide on the style in which you want
to play and then you go and find the players
that can actually fit that style. In New Zealand, we
tend to pack our best players and then try and
adapt our style. Now at the moment we have a
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guy like Matt Henry and we have a huge amount
of all round spinners and things like that, so we
actually have are in a position of slight luxury where
we can go hold on what's our best skill set
to play in the subcontinent. And I think you know,
picking O'Rourke was it was a real bonus for us
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and his skills that came through the fact that he
maintained his pace through two test matches. But you could
still see Tim's pace dropping off as the longer a
Test match went on and the longer he has to
stay in the field, so he needs to be rotated anyway.
We know that in New Zealand, certainly in pre Christmas
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Test matches which we're going to have against England, he
will be a vital component because he is a very
good user of the wicket and certainly is a very
good user of green grass and a new ball. So
he hasn't he hasn't lost his selectorial rain as such,
but it is becoming limited and the limited limitations are
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probably asia on really flat wickets.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
John Bracewell.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
When it comes to selecting a captain, yes, they're going
to get on the team sheet.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
What position is a captain best?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We normally see someone who stands in the slips, somebody
who bats a bit, as opposed to someone who bowls
and stands out at third man. Is there an ideal
position for a cricket to take the captaincy.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, well let's just clear that up. I mean symptoms
how he is an outstanding slip fielder, so he does
get involved in the game and he's normally either standing
at mid off or mid on or short catching position
in front of the wicket or his third slip so
he's always there or thereabouts around that action. He doesn't
and it's very, very seldom does he end up and
go grazing out in the outfield. So his information and
(10:27):
his communication is good and it's always close at hand.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And that's the key.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
You've got to be in a position where you are
gathering information, sharing information and keeping your your your your
bowlers on on task and making sure that you are
close to knowing when they're at their peak and when
they're starting to decline in a spell, and when those
spells need to be changed in accordance with the game
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plan that you've put in place.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax and the
Chamber Now. We're digital sport editor for New Zealand Day Herald.
Hello Alex Powell. How are you today?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Okay mate, it's been a massive day.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
There's been a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Sometimes you're roll into the office like oh it, there's
nothing out there, it's dry, and you start digging through
the digital mind for what of a content you can find?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Not today, right?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No, Well, there's neverne in between. It's either fallse to
the wall or there's nothing happening.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's been an avalanche.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Avalanche started with Tim Souby falling on his sword, and
I'm presuming that he made that call, not New Zealand Cricket.
I think he saw the riding on the wall. Anyway,
you know, I'm not performing like I should do so
for the team because he's very much a team player.
I need to relinquish this role. Does it sound about
right to you?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That was the exact sentiment that he spoke about. We
went out to the airport this morning to talk to
Terman to CEO Scott Win and I didn't see this coming.
I thought Tim Soudy was absolutely going to continue until
he was told otherwise. But he's taken it to fall
on his sword and fair play Tom Watham the man
to lead in India, which I think might be a
bit of a blessing in disguise because they can now
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pick the team they need to pick, rather than be
weighed down by having to have your catch.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And Tim Soudy though, is going to be part of
New Zealand for the next couple of years, you'd expect,
and when it comes to the English home series, his
ability on those greenish decks the start of summer i'd
say will be invaluable.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It'll probably get picked the India, but.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I don't know if we'll get used. It might be
idly to have a cup of tea to lie down
and come back. I suppose smoking will come the English.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Depending on how they want to pick the team. If
you're looking at a bowling attack where Matt Henry has
to play, Will O'Rourke has to play, and you come
down to Tim Sowthy or Ben Sears, who are you picking?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, you're not going to run three seamers, are you?
In those three Test matches? Are you?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I'm talking about against England? Sorry, not against against England.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Wow. I think the South's experienced been able to hoop it,
but like he's he wants to you see what I
mean though about I don't think he's gone forever, but
I don't know if you'll go to India.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, I think this is what the issue is now,
isn't it that? Because you talk about the green pictures
we get in New Zealand. He didn't take work it's
on them last summer against South Africa. He didn't take
him against Australia. You know whether or not that's because
Captain C may be affected form who knows, But I
think if we are going to say, like Tim Southy
is what turning thirty six? You know there is definitely
a lot more yesterday than there are tomorrows for him.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You're an agist, How could you now?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I'm over thirty now, so no one's allowed to have
fun ha ha.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, I might even mention what I'm doing in that space.
So Tom Latham takes the captaincy over, he will get
picked in the side first and foremost. That's what you
look at for a Test captain.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Is it not?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I mean yes and no. I mean you're right he's
going to play all those Tests in India. But is
he the best captain tactically? I'd still say King Williamson's
the best tactician, but he doesn't want to do the
job anymore. Tom Latham is a very good captain of
spin bowling, which I think they're going to need in India.
He's done the job before. He's one Test as captain
before the Warriors. He also doesn't have a very good
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record as a batter when captain. I think his career
averages around thirty nine. That drops about thirty four when.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's a case of who else though.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Wasn't it well, dear Lobb, that grenade a young buck
like Racham Ravendra for example, like when Stephen Fleming got
the role of similar eight.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Well, that's the thing, because Ratch's the only one you
look at, like Glennwarp's pat too crazy to be captain,
Darrell Mitchell was probably too old. Tom Blunder, you're looking
at and thinking, I don't want to give you too much.
If you're going to bat in the top six, keep
worker and then also captain. I mean so, I mean
Devin Conway doesn't have a contract, Camlinson doesn't have a contract.
Do you give it to another bowler? Probably not, because
there's like Matt Henry, can he captain? I wouldn't think so.
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I don't think he's captain in a level. So they
are really between a rock.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And hard place.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
CEO Scott Wennick did say there was a number of
candidates discussed, but Tom was the unanimous choice.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, well was from the best for that for the
three tests. There's now it hard. I've seen what the
Indians have done at home just recently. They're putting teams
to the sword.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
It's actually terrifying, and we're going to get a pitch
just as bad as that three types.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
This Indian TV show that we're all watching called cricket. Anyway,
let's move on to our next topic. Back in the
day when he got picked, he was like Justin Bieber.
I think James O'Connor has developed somewhat since those hell days.
He certainly beefed up, bucked up a lot of experience.
Crusaders need this, don't they.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, I mean so obviously this story. I don't know
if you're talking about the Ceiland and show that James
O'Connor fantastically broken by his it news dogs EPs and
Neck Bailey well done, Neck. Yeah, it's It's one of
those signings that you look at and go a But
then the more you think of it, the more it
does make sense. They need a ten. They've lost Fergus Burke,
who was far away their best option but only played
a handful of games last year, like David HEVELI played
at ten. That's how desperate they were. James O'Connor. I've
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always had a lot of time for James O'Connor. He's
played just about every position in that Australian back line
by bar halfback, and.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He's got international experience, it's been around. He understands how
to transfer skills and work into a different squad, which
when you come in as a hit man for basically
a season, which is what he's doing, you have to
have that ability to hit the ground running.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
He's got that.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, absolutely, I'll put the studio. Is this where super
Raugben needs to go? Do we need more OSSI's playing
in New Zealand? Do we need more key he's playing
in Australia. If it's the way around, and we say
all right, well Britchie manger to the waratas then you
know where I come from.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So that do you think Richie's going to come back
with lessifying a nuku and he'll take that first five
job role.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So that's why there's a bit of a caretaker going on.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That's a good job. But okay, so that's not Richard Marga.
Then say it's Brett Cameron and we start seeing an
exchange of players both sides of the Tasman. Is that
what this competition needs?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The problem with that is that I don't see any
more money for the New Zealand players, which is predominantly
why they leave New Zealand. They go overseas to make
the bucks. They're not going to do it playing in
Australia and then New Zealand lose Young New Zealand all
blacks and rugby players being right in front of their
fan base, which is why they want to keep them here.
So I don't know if you solve anything doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
No, we'll put that on the pile of problems with
super Rugby that don't seem to have a fixed and that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
News is not through yet, but we'd expect it would
come through.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Short end of the month is when the squads are named.
Want talk about the Delians. Jerome Hughes is the big
one tonight. You know he should be up for the
top prize. He was in contention when the vote went
behind closed doors at the halfway point and he's only
gotten better since then. He's in the Grand Final. Surely,
like Nathan Clear, he has missed so much of the season.
There's no one who can challenge to Rome. Surely we
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did say that about Sean Johnson last year.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Just about to say that, but I shan't.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And so what about the other positions, because I see
big Steve Rice has come out and see May Barnett
should be in the Prop of the Year.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But no, it's Vanilla Blake who's been given the nod.
From a New Zealand perspective.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I mean that was another one that you just looked
at and thought, what because it's not as you know,
Faniela Blake's in. They're fair enough. He is an anial
leading prop. You've got James Fisher, Harris Moses Leoda both
of the Panthers. You've got Lindsay Collins from the Roosters
and Joe Tarpne from the Raiders. There were all good players,
but Mitch Barnett's had one of the best seasons in
the comp. Surely that means something like he was playing
that well. He won the Warriors Player of the Year
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what over Adam Fanil Blake, and I'd say that would
basically qualify him to be a bit of prop that
ad in phanild Blake this year and on that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Alex Powell, a digital editor for New Zealand Hill thinks
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