November 20, 2024 • 21 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Wednesday November 2024, Super Rugby Aupiki has released next season' s schedule - with an Australian twist. To talk around the continued development of the women’s game, NZR Head of Women’s High Performance Hannah Porter joins us. What’s her wish list for the future?
Doug Bracewell has found himself in hot water again, this time in the class-A drug space. Does it really matter? Does anyone really use sports people as role models anymore. D’Arcy wades in.
NZ Herald digital editor Alex Powell spins some yarns in the Chamber. He shares his thoughts and opinions around the day’s major sporting stories, including former Football Fern mentor Tom Sermanni’s assertion that Bev Priestman, the disgraced Canadian women’s football coach, would be a good fit as the Ferns' new manager.
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My name is Darcy Walter Grave. It's all Wednesday. It's
the twentieth of November twenty twenty four. Lined up you
in today's edition Super Rugby O Vickie. Their schedule has
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been a now fan There is a cherry on the
top of the season to explain what that is and
why O Vicki keeps advancing its cause and changing its format.
Will be joined by New Zealand Rugby's head of women's
high Performance, Hannah Porter. She joins us shortly. I do
some views as well on Doug Bracewaller and the cocaine affair.
(01:06):
And joining us in the chamber come the New Zealand Herald,
the digital sports editor mister Alex Powells. We take a
look at some of the big sports stories of the day.
That's what we're doing, so let's do it now.
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Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's Sportsfix with a Dancie valde Greve.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
We join now by New Zealand. The Rugby's head of
women's High Performance, Hannah Porter. Hello to you, Han, Do
I trust you well?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I'm very well, thank you Darthy, how are you?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah? Good? Big day a Champions Final. This is the headline.
Champion Final headlines the twenty twenty five sky At Rugby
o Picky Draw announced with the draw is out, but
there is a cherry on the top. This is exciting stuff.
How does this all finish? Where's this heading, Hannah?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, really exciting and look it's taken a while to
get to this point. It's the first year that Super
robw and Super Rugby Opicky will align their dates with
each other, So that's the first step and this is
how we've got to the championship match at the end,
which is really exciting and I know the clubs are
really looking forward to taking part in the first ever
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Championship final. But certainly our intention that these two competitions
keep growing together and there's further alignment in the future.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
When you say in the future, there's mention in the
release that possibly it becomes a competition a unit. It
all runs to the same drum. Is that the thought
process behind this?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah, Look, there's still a lot of work to get
to that point, but Rugby Australia and New Zealand Rugby
are working really closely in what would be the best
thing for the competition and we both know that providing
a longer competition for our women's players and a really
meaningful competition oprah Key and Super Rugby super w is
(04:36):
from a performance point of view, really important to get
players ready for international level, but not only that, engage
with the fans and provide a meaningful rugby competition and
domestically so lots of benefits for these competitions to grow,
really open communication around what that could look like in
the future, and knowing that we want these competitions to
(05:00):
run for longer periods of time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's a growth area in sport, in rugby, in women's sport.
Is rugby union is the way forward And you guys
appear to be running ahead of the curve by design.
You've really been active in the space, haven't you.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah. I don't know if we're leading the space. The
Northern Hemisphere have probably been at it a little bit
longer than what we have, But I think what we
are doing is we're listening to sent me what the
athletes want and what the fans want, which is growing
in this domestic space. So look, I would hope to
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think in the next couple of years where we've got
a product that's it's really cool to watch, but not
only that, it provides a really good performance opportunity for
our athletes.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's also very important to have for aspirations and inspirations
for young athletes coming through. They have to be up there,
don't They are these players. So there are young girls going, hey,
I'm six years old, I want to play this game
because look at them. I mean that's a massive part
of what you're doing, surely, Hannah, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Absolutely, And I think playing domestically, I think having it
at times where everyone can watch it and engage with
it is really important. Not certainly not all of our
international games have played at friendly times for younger watchers.
So being able to put that domestic product up at
primetime TV for everyone to be able to engage with
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it is really important. In this competition along with FPCA
allows us to do that so that people that are
really interested in it have the chance to actually view
it and take part.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Would have been your biggest challenges around promoting the game
and pushing opick forward the way you have over the
last three or four years.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Look, challenges, opportunities. Rugby's a little bit of a slow
moving beast. Sometimes there's lots of people to consider and
lots of opinions to consider as what the best way
forward is. So I think we're getting there. We definitely
want to keep showing progression, and I think this Championship
game does that. But do we actually just want to
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keep progressing the game. We know how important having this
domestic product is for our females, so we do want
to keep growing that out and getting it to a
point where it looked potentially it's a longer period in
the next couple of years or in the future anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, we know all about want though, But what's slowing
that down? Is there an interest from the public as
a sponsor money behind it? Is there anything particularly holding
you back that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
No, there's nothing holding us back. I think what's playing
out in the background is also the Woman's Global calendar.
We've not had a global calendar for the Woman's Game before,
So as of twenty twenty six, you will see two
distinct windows where in the front end of the year
there will be internationals and that they will be regionally based.
So what that means in New Zealanders packed for where
we played in the front end of the year, and
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then a global calendar will sit in September October, and
so that really what that piece of work, and it's
been a big piece of work and it's taken two
years to get there. Is to really solidify what those windows,
international windows are, so when you're creating domestic competitions, you
can sit outside of those windows to make sure that
all of your best players can actually be playing domestic rugby.
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So that will come into play in twenty twenty six.
And now that we know that that calendar is in place,
it becomes a lot easier to put our domestic products
in place. But it has taken, as I said, it
has taken two years to get to that point. So
really excited about what the future looks like, both an
international game and the domestic game.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's pretty quick, all things said and done. When you
look at the glacial pace world rugby works out in general,
we're joined by and he's on a Rugby's Head of
Women's High Performance, Hannah Porter, You're ahead of the curve
when it comes to the blokes game, No, aren't you.
As far as an international program and schedules concern, that's
going to take forever to walk out. It seems to
me that women's rugby is a lot more nimble. Is
(09:00):
it a fair thing to say?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
We're also a lot younger, so I think there's obviously
a few things, so I'm perking the men's game that
as soon as the game turned professional, if those kind
of stepping stones were in place, it all becomes a
little bit harder to unpick when you've got private investors
in the game. So we certainly in that case, I
(09:22):
think we're pretty lucky that we have got to this
point where actually all the nations have worked together really
well to get to international windows, which essentially means any
female could play anywhere across the world in their domestic
game and if their laws allowed, it would allow them
to go back and play international rugby as well. So
(09:44):
that's a real positive. I think when you look at
women's rugby at the moment, is not the opportunity at
the end of your career to go and live life
in southern France on a not a bad wicket as
there is in the men's game. So again, providing opportunities
for our ladies as they're playing throughout their careers that
could be in another domestic competition around the world I
(10:08):
think is really important.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
We've got just the ticket. It's sports VEXV.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Doug Bracewall has found himself in hot water again. No
I'm not going to go back through his history put
it this way. It has been checked. I think this
makes him a bad person, and he still is a
brilliant cricketer. But the Sports Tribunal hearing said that, well,
Bracewall's cocaine use was out of competition, therefore unrelated to
(10:37):
sport performance. So what's the point in stepping him down
for a month? Indeed, what's the point in even bringing
this out into the public arena. Some would say that
Doug Bracewall is a role model, therefore anything he does
is going to reflect poorly on the game, on him
(10:57):
and encourage people into similarly poor behaviors. Doug Bracele's not
a role model. We've seen that from what he's done previously.
In fact, sports Peo will full stop shall not be
role models. Celebrities shouldn't be role models. Maybe even politicians, well,
they definitely shouldn't be role models when you look at
the high jinks that they get up to. You want
(11:18):
a role model, try your care Try your parents, Try
people that you know that you trust, that you see
on a daily basis. Don't model your life on what
a sportsman does outside of the game. That is insane
to start with, the issue here is not whether dug
Embracewall has made a huge error in taking cocaine and
(11:41):
being caught. The issue here is why on Earth the
people put sports stars, celebrities and politicians up on a pedestal.
It is insane. Don't put them up there. They don't
belong there. Make your own wise decisions based on your
first hand experience with those that you love and you trust,
(12:01):
and I'll tell you right now, they're not sportsmen.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I were joined in now in the chamber by the
recidivist Alex Powell, digital sports editor from New Zealand Herald.
You winced when I said that what a You're over
here again and again and again. It's hardly criminal. So
maybe that was a bit much.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Right, Well, next time you ask me, I'll say no.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And I don't. Please carry on, carry on. Thanks for
joining us. We'll going to look today a few subjects
in the chamber. First up, this Bee of Priestman story.
This is fascinating, so just to fill in some blanks
if you don't know, she was the coach in charge
of the Canadian women's football team that they won Goldbeck
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Or twenty one twenty one. Ik Yes was an adjusted yes,
granted for branding purposes, and.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Then she got snapped cheating spying with the drones and dronegate.
Lost your job for Canada. Now, the former New Zealand
coach of the Football Ferns, Tom Somani has come out and.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Said he said, yeah, she'll be a good appointment.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And you know what, and why do you agree with them?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Because Bev Prieseman as we've seen as a winner and
that's what the football fans need.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Obviously that's like if you're going to go spying on teams,
that's a huge no. But it shows the mentality that
the football fans maybe need that win. It all costs
mentality much more brutal, much more. We need to win.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We're not going to suffer any for Do you think
possibly after what's happened with Bev that maybe that attitude
might be pulled back slightly.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Or I mean that's always how it goes. There will
be an overcorrection because that's just what happens. They can't
be seen to be doing it again in New Zealand
Football's case. But if you're Bev Prieseman. Do you want
to come and work again? And if you do, why
not New Zealand do it out of the limelight because
the rest of the world football aren't looking at the
football fans going. Everything they do is under a lot
(13:58):
of scrutiny. Have a solid three or four years. Here,
go to a World Cup, go to an Olympics. Nice
little easy. We're not easy, but it's a guaranteed tournament
given where New Zealand are in the word world.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And she knows a little bit about the way in
New Zealand play because she's been spying on us for years.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That works well and it's all on her laptop.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
How much of it is her fault though it's it's
how complicit is she? Do you believe in this? Because
it was not just her, was it? No?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
But as the head coach, you would have think she'd
had a big saying the buck stops there, buck stops there.
The players say they knew nothing about it, which I
mean believe that if you want to. I don't think
I do. I think it's the same as Australian sandpaper
sandpap in the ball knew.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No hiding from that I'm interested though, in New Zealand
football and their ability to actually give somebody the right
job at the right time, because they've proven over the
past that they're not capable of doing that. What looks
like the all whites are coming right, which is fantastic.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
But how they got there was not flash remember and
what they did to Darren Baisley, Well, Danny hay Well
exactly that.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Someone who wins a lot will never forget about. Is
the now retired Ruffa Nadell. He's got all bustled, knocked
out of Davis cup Or with Spain the end of
an era? What an era has been as well? One
of the could you say big four? Is it really
big three?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I say big three? I think we're being very kind
to Andy Murray.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, he's a lovely man, he's got the best quotes
and you go a great interview, but he's not up
there with Nadal djokovictual federers.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
No, when it gets like, you know, you look at
the Grand Slams and it goes he's won twentys one,
twenty one, three, No, it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Just doesn't sit there, doesn't. I think it was coined
by the British press probably Yeah, well lately. So you
look back in the fullness of time, what do you
think of Rougher Nadell and what he's provided for the game.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
In terms of the Big three, Nada's probably my favorite
one to watch, you know, when he was at his peak.
It does feel like we've been here for years now
of the end of Nadal, like he's had injuries. The
rivalry with Federer was a lot of what made him,
you know, you think that's sport, and so much of
sport is built on rivalries and Nadel Feder, especially that
early part of the two thousands, that was what it was.
(16:05):
And then Jokovic came along and had added an other
dimension to it. But now you know, Fedder has gone,
Djokovic has all the records basically, and it's just okay?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Is that it?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Then?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But finally there is the dawning of a new era
or a changing of the guard. And tell the joker
wins hatful more Grand Slams, and that's proven wrong. The
beauty of Grand Slam tennis is the surface, isn't it.
That's one of the wonderments of these four Grand Slams
that one of them is so different. Your grass is different,
as well, but Clay, it's it's another way to play
(16:37):
the game, isn't it? He dominated?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Is that maybe an asterisk gone on Nadalvo Because so
many of his titles came at Rolling Garross, He's obviously
not as dominant as what feder was. He admitally won
a lot less at Rollinggoes because of and same with Djokovic.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I don't think it does. I think as we all know,
and tennis fans all know that that was his backyard,
that was his domain, and it's all well and good
to be favorite on a particular surface, but to then
go on and dominate on that with all of that
pressure over how long has he been playing for?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Feels like about twenty years?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah longer? Ye, Well, where he had hair when he started?
Is that the best way to put it. Let's stop
doing that.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
His pants worn't Let's not be her suited this.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Can you be like that if you're being sexist her suitist.
Let's walk away from tennis now and go to the
word of the wide world of Formula one. It's been
a couple of weeks since we've seen Lim Lawson, but
now we're on to the home stretch. You've written a
great piece in the Herald about his engineer. Their relationship
with a driver and his engineer is huge, but maybe
(17:39):
under sold by the media and possibly the non race
car fanatic public don't really understand that dynamic between those
two guys.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
And that's even part of the story today that we did,
me having to explain to people the term race engineer
doesn't mean Pierre Hamlin in this case is working on
the car. He's the point of contact between Liam Lawson
or the driver and the rest of the tank.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And that is a key for that. You've got an
engineer that understands how you drive, and you've got an
engineer that can understand what the driver saying, and then
the driver in turn can make what he thinks very
clear to the engineer. That is a huge part of
a puzzle in order to be a top driver. Exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
No, the trust is huge between driver and an engineer.
You think of Lewis Hamilton and Bono as engineer, Like,
I didn't even know what Bono's name was. All I
knew he was called Bono because that's what you hear
on the radio. But you're right, it's such an underrated
part of a Formula One team as the engineer.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's almost a sport. It doesn't matter where you are
if you've got a good engineer. They tend to stick
with drives for a long long time too, don't they.
Brendan Hartley used to work with the same engineer, didn't
he back and back in this day.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
That's how we got onto him.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well you rang up, Britna said, gives us a number. No,
I wish well you try it. Yeah, I'm looking forward
to We've got three races to go and then maybe,
just maybe they might make a decision at some stage
before twenty twenty eight about the future of racing board
and Liam Lawson, how was he going to go in
Las Vegas.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I'm hopeful. I think Vegas is a quick track and
we know Liam's a quick driver.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
The first sector of it is quite technical, with a
lot of turns and long turns, but two and three
good straights and that's where you know Lamb can be quick.
So if you can have a good qualifying, he's in there.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You can help me with thirst and finish it off.
Alex Powell on Digital Sport edit from New Zealand Herald.
I know, but you can explain it in Layman's terms.
When people say he's a quick driver, you'd say, well,
hold on, they're in Formula one, they're all fast. What
does that mean though a quick driver?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
You're right because it is how we describe drivers. Liam
comparatively gets more out of the car than what the
people in the similar so Yuki Sonoda and Daniel Ricardo
and even in Nictvreese the air before do.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's about extracting extra pas where you don't think it is.
Be it in breaking zones and cornering techniques and looking
after your tires so you get the best out of
the long run. That's all the detail. It is, the
finer details being a driver.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Racecraft is what we call it. How you manage a race.
You know, because of what's happened with F one in
the last few years where a lot of people gets
into it through Netflix and then you might watch the
odd race isn't really appreciated, like it's not going out
there and about just driving really fast all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That'll kill you.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
You know, you've got to know when you go, you
know when you push, when you coast, when you defend,
when you attack, And it's such a difficult thing. They
want to get their heads around because you know, oh
you know, I drive to work this morning, and that's
what the F one drivers do. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, it's not just dealing with traffic. So slightly more
detailed than that. In the case of William Lawson, not
only is he quick, is also very very aggressive and
that's upset a lot of Formula One seniors, but so
be it.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
That's the nature of the game, right, Good on, keep
it going.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
There, Ah, Alex Powell, Digital Sport Edit, New Zealand Herald,
Off you go. Thanks for recidiviizing. It's not even a word,
but I made it up.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Hey look, William Shakespeare made up words and so do you.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Why thank you. I'm a bard.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
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My name is Darcy Walter Grave. It's all Wednesday. It's
the twentieth of November twenty twenty four. Lined up you
in today's edition Super Rugby O Vickie. Their schedule has
(00:43):
been a now fan There is a cherry on the
top of the season to explain what that is and
why O Vicki keeps advancing its cause and changing its format.
Will be joined by New Zealand Rugby's head of women's
high Performance, Hannah Porter. She joins us shortly. I do
some views as well on Doug Bracewaller and the cocaine affair.
(01:06):
And joining us in the chamber come the New Zealand Herald,
the digital sports editor mister Alex Powells. We take a
look at some of the big sports stories of the day.
That's what we're doing, so let's do it now.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And for the spoken records, here's a verbal sporting does
for you all of the Cringey Jake Paul, Mike Tyson
love Waltz Over the weekend, another former heavyweight will repeat
the choreographed ring antics ol of the McCall. The fifty
nine year old pugilist who has been active through his
forties and fifties, has taken on another mature fighter, the
(01:44):
fifty four year old Stacy Fraser, who has run two
I was last nineteen engagements. Let's go back in history
to the McCall Lennox Lewis scrat Oh hell you don't,
oh what a big and he is just what title
is there to shake his t's over? And it was
back in ninety four. He may have jumped the ship
(02:07):
and the sale GP, but Andy Maloney still wants to
sail along one of the Team New Zealand and he's
a three time in America's Cup winner and he discussed
his Brazilian move with Team New Zealand CEO Ted Tchubridge.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Now one hundred percent want to raise for ten years
again in the future. And you know, I think Sube
as well as myself. We saw this is a really
cool growing opportunity for me as the sailor and something
that will help me develop as more of an asset
for ten New Zealand as well.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And the av has finished then Northern tour in Italy
this week and where brass and monkeys are the order
of the day. Assistant coach Starmady Allison knows a thing
or two about the cold. We's the snow we've it
in Japan. It's mainly the the ground is frosted.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Is the high part of the Snow's similar.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
To the rain in some ways, but if the ground
has thought out otherwise.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This book a lot thing on concrete.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And forecast for kickoff is below zero. They said it,
We got it there it is use Ademan.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's Sportsfix with a Dancie valde Greve.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
We join now by New Zealand. The Rugby's head of
women's High Performance, Hannah Porter. Hello to you, Han, Do
I trust you well?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I'm very well, thank you Darthy, how are you?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah? Good? Big day a Champions Final. This is the headline.
Champion Final headlines the twenty twenty five sky At Rugby
o Picky Draw announced with the draw is out, but
there is a cherry on the top. This is exciting stuff.
How does this all finish? Where's this heading, Hannah?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, really exciting and look it's taken a while to
get to this point. It's the first year that Super
robw and Super Rugby Opicky will align their dates with
each other, So that's the first step and this is
how we've got to the championship match at the end,
which is really exciting and I know the clubs are
really looking forward to taking part in the first ever
(03:55):
Championship final. But certainly our intention that these two competitions
keep growing together and there's further alignment in the future.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
When you say in the future, there's mention in the
release that possibly it becomes a competition a unit. It
all runs to the same drum. Is that the thought
process behind this?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah, Look, there's still a lot of work to get
to that point, but Rugby Australia and New Zealand Rugby
are working really closely in what would be the best
thing for the competition and we both know that providing
a longer competition for our women's players and a really
meaningful competition oprah Key and Super Rugby super w is
(04:36):
from a performance point of view, really important to get
players ready for international level, but not only that, engage
with the fans and provide a meaningful rugby competition and
domestically so lots of benefits for these competitions to grow,
really open communication around what that could look like in
the future, and knowing that we want these competitions to
(05:00):
run for longer periods of time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's a growth area in sport, in rugby, in women's sport.
Is rugby union is the way forward And you guys
appear to be running ahead of the curve by design.
You've really been active in the space, haven't you.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah. I don't know if we're leading the space. The
Northern Hemisphere have probably been at it a little bit
longer than what we have, But I think what we
are doing is we're listening to sent me what the
athletes want and what the fans want, which is growing
in this domestic space. So look, I would hope to
(05:41):
think in the next couple of years where we've got
a product that's it's really cool to watch, but not
only that, it provides a really good performance opportunity for
our athletes.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's also very important to have for aspirations and inspirations
for young athletes coming through. They have to be up there,
don't They are these players. So there are young girls going, hey,
I'm six years old, I want to play this game
because look at them. I mean that's a massive part
of what you're doing, surely, Hannah, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Absolutely, And I think playing domestically, I think having it
at times where everyone can watch it and engage with
it is really important. Not certainly not all of our
international games have played at friendly times for younger watchers.
So being able to put that domestic product up at
primetime TV for everyone to be able to engage with
(06:29):
it is really important. In this competition along with FPCA
allows us to do that so that people that are
really interested in it have the chance to actually view
it and take part.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Would have been your biggest challenges around promoting the game
and pushing opick forward the way you have over the
last three or four years.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Look, challenges, opportunities. Rugby's a little bit of a slow
moving beast. Sometimes there's lots of people to consider and
lots of opinions to consider as what the best way
forward is. So I think we're getting there. We definitely
want to keep showing progression, and I think this Championship
game does that. But do we actually just want to
(07:09):
keep progressing the game. We know how important having this
domestic product is for our females, so we do want
to keep growing that out and getting it to a
point where it looked potentially it's a longer period in
the next couple of years or in the future anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, we know all about want though, But what's slowing
that down? Is there an interest from the public as
a sponsor money behind it? Is there anything particularly holding
you back that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
No, there's nothing holding us back. I think what's playing
out in the background is also the Woman's Global calendar.
We've not had a global calendar for the Woman's Game before,
So as of twenty twenty six, you will see two
distinct windows where in the front end of the year
there will be internationals and that they will be regionally based.
So what that means in New Zealanders packed for where
we played in the front end of the year, and
(07:58):
then a global calendar will sit in September October, and
so that really what that piece of work, and it's
been a big piece of work and it's taken two
years to get there. Is to really solidify what those windows,
international windows are, so when you're creating domestic competitions, you
can sit outside of those windows to make sure that
all of your best players can actually be playing domestic rugby.
(08:18):
So that will come into play in twenty twenty six.
And now that we know that that calendar is in place,
it becomes a lot easier to put our domestic products
in place. But it has taken, as I said, it
has taken two years to get to that point. So
really excited about what the future looks like, both an
international game and the domestic game.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's pretty quick, all things said and done. When you
look at the glacial pace world rugby works out in general,
we're joined by and he's on a Rugby's Head of
Women's High Performance, Hannah Porter, You're ahead of the curve
when it comes to the blokes game, No, aren't you.
As far as an international program and schedules concern, that's
going to take forever to walk out. It seems to
me that women's rugby is a lot more nimble. Is
(09:00):
it a fair thing to say?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
We're also a lot younger, so I think there's obviously
a few things, so I'm perking the men's game that
as soon as the game turned professional, if those kind
of stepping stones were in place, it all becomes a
little bit harder to unpick when you've got private investors
in the game. So we certainly in that case, I
(09:22):
think we're pretty lucky that we have got to this
point where actually all the nations have worked together really
well to get to international windows, which essentially means any
female could play anywhere across the world in their domestic
game and if their laws allowed, it would allow them
to go back and play international rugby as well. So
(09:44):
that's a real positive. I think when you look at
women's rugby at the moment, is not the opportunity at
the end of your career to go and live life
in southern France on a not a bad wicket as
there is in the men's game. So again, providing opportunities
for our ladies as they're playing throughout their careers that
could be in another domestic competition around the world I
(10:08):
think is really important.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
We've got just the ticket. It's sports VEXV.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Doug Bracewall has found himself in hot water again. No
I'm not going to go back through his history put
it this way. It has been checked. I think this
makes him a bad person, and he still is a
brilliant cricketer. But the Sports Tribunal hearing said that, well,
Bracewall's cocaine use was out of competition, therefore unrelated to
(10:37):
sport performance. So what's the point in stepping him down
for a month? Indeed, what's the point in even bringing
this out into the public arena. Some would say that
Doug Bracewall is a role model, therefore anything he does
is going to reflect poorly on the game, on him
(10:57):
and encourage people into similarly poor behaviors. Doug Bracele's not
a role model. We've seen that from what he's done previously.
In fact, sports Peo will full stop shall not be
role models. Celebrities shouldn't be role models. Maybe even politicians, well,
they definitely shouldn't be role models when you look at
the high jinks that they get up to. You want
(11:18):
a role model, try your care Try your parents, Try
people that you know that you trust, that you see
on a daily basis. Don't model your life on what
a sportsman does outside of the game. That is insane
to start with, the issue here is not whether dug
Embracewall has made a huge error in taking cocaine and
(11:41):
being caught. The issue here is why on Earth the
people put sports stars, celebrities and politicians up on a pedestal.
It is insane. Don't put them up there. They don't
belong there. Make your own wise decisions based on your
first hand experience with those that you love and you trust,
(12:01):
and I'll tell you right now, they're not sportsmen.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I were joined in now in the chamber by the
recidivist Alex Powell, digital sports editor from New Zealand Herald.
You winced when I said that what a You're over
here again and again and again. It's hardly criminal. So
maybe that was a bit much.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Right, Well, next time you ask me, I'll say no.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And I don't. Please carry on, carry on. Thanks for
joining us. We'll going to look today a few subjects
in the chamber. First up, this Bee of Priestman story.
This is fascinating, so just to fill in some blanks
if you don't know, she was the coach in charge
of the Canadian women's football team that they won Goldbeck
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Or twenty one twenty one. Ik Yes was an adjusted yes,
granted for branding purposes, and.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Then she got snapped cheating spying with the drones and dronegate.
Lost your job for Canada. Now, the former New Zealand
coach of the Football Ferns, Tom Somani has come out and.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Said he said, yeah, she'll be a good appointment.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And you know what, and why do you agree with them?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Because Bev Prieseman as we've seen as a winner and
that's what the football fans need.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Obviously that's like if you're going to go spying on teams,
that's a huge no. But it shows the mentality that
the football fans maybe need that win. It all costs
mentality much more brutal, much more. We need to win.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We're not going to suffer any for Do you think
possibly after what's happened with Bev that maybe that attitude
might be pulled back slightly.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Or I mean that's always how it goes. There will
be an overcorrection because that's just what happens. They can't
be seen to be doing it again in New Zealand
Football's case. But if you're Bev Prieseman. Do you want
to come and work again? And if you do, why
not New Zealand do it out of the limelight because
the rest of the world football aren't looking at the
football fans going. Everything they do is under a lot
(13:58):
of scrutiny. Have a solid three or four years. Here,
go to a World Cup, go to an Olympics. Nice
little easy. We're not easy, but it's a guaranteed tournament
given where New Zealand are in the word world.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And she knows a little bit about the way in
New Zealand play because she's been spying on us for years.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That works well and it's all on her laptop.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
How much of it is her fault though it's it's
how complicit is she? Do you believe in this? Because
it was not just her, was it? No?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
But as the head coach, you would have think she'd
had a big saying the buck stops there, buck stops there.
The players say they knew nothing about it, which I
mean believe that if you want to. I don't think
I do. I think it's the same as Australian sandpaper
sandpap in the ball knew.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No hiding from that I'm interested though, in New Zealand
football and their ability to actually give somebody the right
job at the right time, because they've proven over the
past that they're not capable of doing that. What looks
like the all whites are coming right, which is fantastic.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
But how they got there was not flash remember and
what they did to Darren Baisley, Well, Danny hay Well
exactly that.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Someone who wins a lot will never forget about. Is
the now retired Ruffa Nadell. He's got all bustled, knocked
out of Davis cup Or with Spain the end of
an era? What an era has been as well? One
of the could you say big four? Is it really
big three?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I say big three? I think we're being very kind
to Andy Murray.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, he's a lovely man, he's got the best quotes
and you go a great interview, but he's not up
there with Nadal djokovictual federers.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
No, when it gets like, you know, you look at
the Grand Slams and it goes he's won twentys one,
twenty one, three, No, it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Just doesn't sit there, doesn't. I think it was coined
by the British press probably Yeah, well lately. So you
look back in the fullness of time, what do you
think of Rougher Nadell and what he's provided for the game.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
In terms of the Big three, Nada's probably my favorite
one to watch, you know, when he was at his peak.
It does feel like we've been here for years now
of the end of Nadal, like he's had injuries. The
rivalry with Federer was a lot of what made him,
you know, you think that's sport, and so much of
sport is built on rivalries and Nadel Feder, especially that
early part of the two thousands, that was what it was.
(16:05):
And then Jokovic came along and had added an other
dimension to it. But now you know, Fedder has gone,
Djokovic has all the records basically, and it's just okay?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Is that it?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Then?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But finally there is the dawning of a new era
or a changing of the guard. And tell the joker
wins hatful more Grand Slams, and that's proven wrong. The
beauty of Grand Slam tennis is the surface, isn't it.
That's one of the wonderments of these four Grand Slams
that one of them is so different. Your grass is different,
as well, but Clay, it's it's another way to play
(16:37):
the game, isn't it? He dominated?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Is that maybe an asterisk gone on Nadalvo Because so
many of his titles came at Rolling Garross, He's obviously
not as dominant as what feder was. He admitally won
a lot less at Rollinggoes because of and same with Djokovic.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I don't think it does. I think as we all know,
and tennis fans all know that that was his backyard,
that was his domain, and it's all well and good
to be favorite on a particular surface, but to then
go on and dominate on that with all of that
pressure over how long has he been playing for?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Feels like about twenty years?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah longer? Ye, Well, where he had hair when he started?
Is that the best way to put it. Let's stop
doing that.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
His pants worn't Let's not be her suited this.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Can you be like that if you're being sexist her suitist.
Let's walk away from tennis now and go to the
word of the wide world of Formula one. It's been
a couple of weeks since we've seen Lim Lawson, but
now we're on to the home stretch. You've written a
great piece in the Herald about his engineer. Their relationship
with a driver and his engineer is huge, but maybe
(17:39):
under sold by the media and possibly the non race
car fanatic public don't really understand that dynamic between those
two guys.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
And that's even part of the story today that we did,
me having to explain to people the term race engineer
doesn't mean Pierre Hamlin in this case is working on
the car. He's the point of contact between Liam Lawson
or the driver and the rest of the tank.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And that is a key for that. You've got an
engineer that understands how you drive, and you've got an
engineer that can understand what the driver saying, and then
the driver in turn can make what he thinks very
clear to the engineer. That is a huge part of
a puzzle in order to be a top driver. Exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
No, the trust is huge between driver and an engineer.
You think of Lewis Hamilton and Bono as engineer, Like,
I didn't even know what Bono's name was. All I
knew he was called Bono because that's what you hear
on the radio. But you're right, it's such an underrated
part of a Formula One team as the engineer.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's almost a sport. It doesn't matter where you are
if you've got a good engineer. They tend to stick
with drives for a long long time too, don't they.
Brendan Hartley used to work with the same engineer, didn't
he back and back in this day.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
That's how we got onto him.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well you rang up, Britna said, gives us a number. No,
I wish well you try it. Yeah, I'm looking forward
to We've got three races to go and then maybe,
just maybe they might make a decision at some stage
before twenty twenty eight about the future of racing board
and Liam Lawson, how was he going to go in
Las Vegas.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I'm hopeful. I think Vegas is a quick track and
we know Liam's a quick driver.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
The first sector of it is quite technical, with a
lot of turns and long turns, but two and three
good straights and that's where you know Lamb can be quick.
So if you can have a good qualifying, he's in there.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You can help me with thirst and finish it off.
Alex Powell on Digital Sport edit from New Zealand Herald.
I know, but you can explain it in Layman's terms.
When people say he's a quick driver, you'd say, well,
hold on, they're in Formula one, they're all fast. What
does that mean though a quick driver?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
You're right because it is how we describe drivers. Liam
comparatively gets more out of the car than what the
people in the similar so Yuki Sonoda and Daniel Ricardo
and even in Nictvreese the air before do.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's about extracting extra pas where you don't think it is.
Be it in breaking zones and cornering techniques and looking
after your tires so you get the best out of
the long run. That's all the detail. It is, the
finer details being a driver.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Racecraft is what we call it. How you manage a race.
You know, because of what's happened with F one in
the last few years where a lot of people gets
into it through Netflix and then you might watch the
odd race isn't really appreciated, like it's not going out
there and about just driving really fast all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That'll kill you.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
You know, you've got to know when you go, you
know when you push, when you coast, when you defend,
when you attack, And it's such a difficult thing. They
want to get their heads around because you know, oh
you know, I drive to work this morning, and that's
what the F one drivers do. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, it's not just dealing with traffic. So slightly more
detailed than that. In the case of William Lawson, not
only is he quick, is also very very aggressive and
that's upset a lot of Formula One seniors, but so
be it.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
That's the nature of the game, right, Good on, keep
it going.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
There, Ah, Alex Powell, Digital Sport Edit, New Zealand Herald,
Off you go. Thanks for recidiviizing. It's not even a word,
but I made it up.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Hey look, William Shakespeare made up words and so do you.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Why thank you. I'm a bard.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
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