November 21, 2024 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 22nd November 2024, Former Italian rugby captain Dean Budd joins the Podcast to discuss what we can expect from the Italians in the last test for the All Blacks of 2024.
Piney offers his thoughts on what the best All Whites side is as they set their sights on the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
Plus, the lads discuss how they think Liam Lawson will go at F1 in Las Vegas this weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News talks Ed. Be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
This is Sportsfix Howard by News talks Ed.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Be Hello there, and welcome to the back end of
the week and to a fresh episode of the Sports
Fox podcast. As another weekend, if sport looms large, It's
November the twenty second.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm Jason Pinks. I can't cope. There's too much going on. Piney,
how am I going to deal with this? Said Darcy Waldgrave,
who knows damn well what it's going to do. It's
going to rot on the count for a weekend and
you call it work.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
As you said that, I thought to myself, I know
exactly how you will handle the incoming rush of sport.
And there is so much to talk about, including all
blacks Italy. Saday morning, I got a former Italian captain
on the pod today.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Super nice bloke spoken to him before. His name is
Dean Bud. He played for Auckland, for North Winder for
the Blues too, and then he shot off over to Italy,
played there for a number of years Canton and a
few times well, and he knows the ins and outs
of Italian rugs, because I've got some things to ask
him about their lack of success, to put it politely, Yeah,
(01:18):
and it hasn't been It hasn't been a.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Happy time for Itily, certainlygainst the All Blacks and in
recent times as well. So we've got that, We've got
a few things to kick around them the chamber. And
I've got some thoughts on the All Whites and who
may or may not make their World Cup squad when
and if but when they make it to the tournament
in twenty twenty six. So a bunch to pack in.
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
In other news, let's get just.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Started with a look at some of the big sports
stories around today. Sam Kin and TJ. Pettinata have been
named for one final All Blacks test though fronts up
against Italy Sunday morning in Churin his head coach Gott Robertson.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Been there and felt it and said that you can
teach others, and that's what they've done. You know, they've
taken a week pudu role and they've taken a lot
of time and care and mentoring and also keep that's accountable.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Keevy driver Liam Lawson continues to face questions around his
Formula One future. Ahead of a maid in Las Vegas
Grand Prix this weekend, He's been asked about his plans
for next year.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I have stare, let's say, but obviously the expectation on
us is high and the season's not done yet. So
as much as his indication on what they want him
to do and what the future holds, I don't have
anything confirmed right now.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And the Judd Flavel coaching era with the Tall Blacks
has begun with a narrow ninety three eighty nine loss
to the Philippines in Manila as part of their Asia
Cup qualifying campaign.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Atmosphere like this, This is great, great international basketball.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
The crowd's amazing. Yeah, just a few positions they would
like to have back.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Former Italian skipper Dean budd It joins us. Now, Dean,
how are you mate? You will?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Yeah bloody good. Thanks you yourself, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Not so bad. Looking forward to the final test of
the season. Of course, that you played for Italy captain
to Italy for a handful of tests as well. When
you saw this team announced from the All Blacks. Did
you think it was a bit like taking a bazooka
to a knife fight. This is a hell of a team,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Well, I've got to defend my Italian boys and not
pretend that at least a semi automatic weapon as opposed
to a knife. But no, I did expect the All
Blacks to want to finish the season strong. I think
it's a message from Raizer. I say he doesn't want
to risk anything. He's certainly been in the firing line
(03:45):
of a few critics and media throughout his first year
in charge, so I think you'll want to make sure
he cleaned this one up.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Where's the Italian what's their attitude coming from? Last time
they played it was in a World Cup and they
nearly nearly got a ton scored against them, So I
expect anything less than I don't know how do you
target this All Blacks match? When you when you take
them on because you played them once, couldn't play them
a second time because of the rain in Japan. But
what's the thought process around how you play? What is
(04:12):
a good result?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah? I think and speaking with a few of them
this week, it's going to just be about re establishing
a bit of respect from the rugby community and winning
the hearts of the fans back, and just delivering a
strong performance. I hate to say as a professional athlete
going into games that we don't expect to win, but
I don't think, at least quite at the stage where
(04:35):
we're expecting to win, probably the right thing. I know
that sounds like a bit of a loser's mentality, but
I think going out there in a strong performance and
getting some credibility back after what was pretty embarrassing to
feed at the World Cup will be their goal.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So is it the case of not trying to slow
the damage down, but more's the point of maybe achieving
the achievables as far as tackles, as far as miss
tackles or not having them, as far as some form
of parity in the scrums and the ruts. Does it
look too like that as opposed to an overall victory.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, I think they'll want to be strong in defense.
I think that's let them down a little bit, especially
with the RGS in the last kind of fifteen minutes
of their test. I think even even so, the Georgia
game led in a few what they would deem the
soft tries through in a game where they dominated a
lot of possession. I think they'll they'll want to be stronger,
(05:33):
they want to be more clinical there, and that will
then give them the opportunity to hopefully nab a couple
of tries here and there.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Dean bad joins us. So from my Italian skipper, looking
ahead to the last match of the All Blacks Northern Tour,
tilt us around Italian rugby full stop. Because you're around
there for quite some time. It doesn't seem to have
gained the traction that most would like after being admitted
to the six Nations all those years ago. What's holding
(06:04):
them back?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Dean?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm always very proud of my time, so I
hate to be hypercritical of what went wrong. But there's
just a little bit of inconsistency from every level. I
think the federation seems to change leadership every three years.
It's not driven by a businessman as such. Generally speaking,
it's a voting system over.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
There where.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
A new guy can come in and a change directive
like the Winds. So I think they've just lacked that consistency.
I think they've lacked really entering into the professional era
of funding support and kind of call it fifteen staff
teams where you have a coach for every aspect and
you have mental skills coaches and all the things. I
(06:48):
just don't think they've really bought and completely just yet.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Is there engagement across the nation. I'm sure it's reduced
to pockets of the population considering the mad passionate fans
of football. I get you, but is there a want
to people enjoy this game? Has it got it attraction?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yes? Absolutely it has. The North the North is pretty
pretty much rugby driven. I mean football, you can't can't
hide from it, and volleyball and basketball. They're all pretty
dominant sports over there. But a lot of the fans
I think we started to win hearts. We would go
to games and spect the fans afterwards, and I said,
you know, this is my first rugby game. I used
to be a football fan, but I just can't watch
(07:31):
that anymore. That they're pretenders. We want a real we
want a real sport. And so I think that there's
a change in the air over there around supporting rugby
and and kind of the authenticity that it brings as
a as a movement. As a person that it creates
and as a game.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Who's the strength of Italian rugby.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I think there's They're still pretty strong upfront. I think
I've always believed obviously I planned to my own role,
there have been afford I always thought we were better.
But I think their backs have come a long way.
I think for a while utterly really struggled to deliver
a good attacking back line. I think now there they're
starting to run with some depth, with some purpose, with
(08:14):
some control. I think the back line is starting to
become a lot stronger. Capotsa the back and absolute X
factor player. You've got Montane on the wing. Incredible. There's
there's just there's a little bit more to their back
line now, which is which brings a little bit more
flair hopefully when the forwards can get some go forward.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hey Dean, real pleasure mate. Thanks very much for your
time of great weekend.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Appreciate it. Thank you sports Sex well.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
The All Whites have played their final matches of the
year and as expected, dealt comfortably with Vanuatu and some more,
scoring eight goals and back to back matches to reinforce
that they are indeed the big fish in Oceania football now.
Because of the expanded forty eight nation format and direct
entry for Oceania, they're now just two games away from
(09:03):
the World Cup. The Oceania semi finals and final are
in March of next year, and with all due respect
to Fiji, Tahiti and New Caledonia, it would take an
almost unimaginable catastrophe for the All Whites not to be
at the next World Cup. Then it's a matter of
who is actually going. Coach Darren Baiseley is now in
(09:26):
the very happy position of having too many good players
to fit on the plane. At the last World Cup
in twenty ten that New Zealand went to the side
contained a couple of players who weren't even full time professionals.
Now there are very very good players playing in good
teams in good professional leagues who will not be in
(09:46):
the squad. Now, every coach will tell you competition for
places is a very good thing. It sharpens the focus
of everybody, encourages excellence and makes every training session, let
alone every game, a virtual audition for future inclusion. It's
likely the All Whites will play in half a dozen
international windows between March of next year and where the
World Cup rolls around in mid twenty twenty six, and
(10:09):
every player will want to be involved in every window.
No one's going to say no because no one will
want to miss a chance to stake their claim. It's
yet to be absolutely confirmed, but World Cup squads will
be either twenty three or twenty six players. I reckon
you can probably write down fifteen who will definitely be
in the squad. For the remaining places, there are twenty
(10:32):
or thirty guys with genuine designs on being involved. It's
going to make for and intriguing eighteen months ahead as
the all white squad starts to take shape.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And to the Chamber we go. We were here twenty
four hours ago, Darcy in both pontificating about what we
thought might happen with the all white look.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I know it's on tape and I know people have
played it over and over again, but that didn't happen.
We didn't predict completely the wrong team, did we.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We did.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
What we can say is we can say we asked
ourselves what would we do? Yes, what do you think
they'll do?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What will we do?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Even having said that, though, if you said to me, hey,
what do you reckon, they'll do Piney. I wouldn't have
picked this team, would you do?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No one, it's a huge surprise. It really is old
made of mind. Dylan Cleaver used the quote razors pick
the ferrari to race a feat and that's what he's done, right.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yes, yes, it's effectively a full strength team. We talked
yesterday about players being given opportunities, players who haven't had
a lot of game time being given not only places
in the squad, but starts. But you look at that team,
the fifteen that he is named in particular, and that's
a team you'd picked to play a Tier one nation,
(11:47):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's the strongest team because remember there are players out
with injury, but that's the strongest team he could pick.
So when you look at intent and a way to
end the season, Scott Robertson's going you're not going to
forget the way we finish. We are putting a line
in the sand game. This is where we sit. It
doesn't matter if it's only Italy. We need to finish
(12:10):
on a high and I suppose you've got to respect that,
don't you? Pony?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You do how much of this darts do you reckon
is because they lost last weekend. Had they won and
gone bang bang bang wins over England Island France, do
you think we'd be looking at a different team.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I get the feeling that Scott Robertson's got a killer
instinct about him and what he does, and he wouldn't
have deviated. Though we were wrong yesterday too, so I
could be wrong again, But there's something about the way
he selects teams and what he does. He remember the
Crusaders and they had retiring great and why Crockett. Do
(12:46):
you think they picked him for the last couple of games. No,
wasn't strong enough to win. Brutal, brutal.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, But what he has done with a couple of
retiring all blacks is he has included them. But I
don't think there's sentiment here because I think they are
both part of the of the best twenty three, particularly
Sam Kaine who starts in the seven jumper, because if
it's not him, I wonder who it is. You know,
they could go back I guess to the you know,
to the way they finished last week with Larchai Savvier
Satiti or something like that. But I think Sam Caine
(13:12):
has earned his place, and I'm looking forward to seeing
him for the last time in a black jersey, even
though he's not going to captain the side as you.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Suggested yesterday, we come on, you asked me. I suggested,
why wouldn't you? But again no sentiment in there. And
I almost feel for the Italians, but they nearly leaked
one hundred points last time that the All Blacks took
him on at the World. That was brutal, and I
wonder if deep inside or maybe not so deep quite
Jellow Robinson's going put on a sentry to end my
(13:38):
first year in charge. So how they continue once they start,
and we hope they start, well, it's going to be
interesting because you know what it's like, you know, foot
off throat. From time to time it does happen.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It does look. I think it's a it's a statement
selection by Scott Robertson. It's not what, as you just said,
most of us selected to see or expected to see
when we wake up this morning to see this twenty
three names. So you're very much looking forward to seeing
how they get on party.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What's your big hope out of this? What are you
actually want to get out of this? Last eighty minutes
of football for the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, listening to you talk over the last two or
three minutes, I want to see that ruthless Razor streak.
I want to see this team in his image of
the way that, as you say, teams that he coached
in Red and Black used to put feet on throats
and not let up. Look, I would love to see
obviously a cohesive performance and eighty minute performance, but also
a performance where if they are heed by forty or
(14:34):
fifty to twenty minutes to go, they're not satisfied with that.
Guys come off the bench like Peter Nada, Harvilly McKenzie,
you know vity Larkey, these kind of guys and just
continue it on because what do they say, You're only
as good as your last game. So he'll be hoping
Razor that their last game is pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I just don't want any of our super rugby stars
to get broken to pieces.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
There is that too. There is that too, but it's
only going to be heate November. They've got a bit
of time to recover. Hey, we've taken a bit of
time on the All Blacks. I do want to get
your view though, on Liam Lawson. He races Formula one
and Las Vegas this weekend. What should we expect from Liam?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We expect what we've got from him recently. I think points,
that's what we want, one, two, three, whatever. We expect
points from this guy because now the pressure is very
much on him, plainly on checker as well, said Gioperis.
But he's shown that he can score points, he can
drive with the best of them, He's got big elbows
(15:31):
that he puts out there. He won't step down. So
what I would like to see is a continuation of
what he's shown us already, and not to I suppose,
back off, but to carry on going. I deserve to
be in this formula and I'm going to show you
why and how. It's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It is exciting.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Have I got this right?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Does this race start at ten o'clock at night?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Didn't that happen? And I think it was happened last
year as well, And by the end of the race
everyone was frozen to death. They they needed more puffers
than you'd have in a winter's day in christ to
actually survive that. But it's international, isn't it. They need
to do it. I suppose a big thing as well.
Pinty is traction around Formula one in America because Liberty
(16:17):
Group who own it, have tried so hard to push
this through drive to survive and try and get the
American public to buy into this. So there's a lot
around this. For the future of this competition, and being
very close to Mexico, there'll be a lot of anti
Liam Lawson sentiment, should.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I say, I can imagine the Zudio Paris fans will
be out in force, absolutely in forced. It's an intriguing
time and isn't it so great as you say, to
have a key we racing an F one and hopefully
for a long time to come. That's all we have
time for. Unfortunately in the chamber for today leading a.
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(17:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Be Hello there, and welcome to the back end of
the week and to a fresh episode of the Sports
Fox podcast. As another weekend, if sport looms large, It's
November the twenty second.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm Jason Pinks. I can't cope. There's too much going on. Piney,
how am I going to deal with this? Said Darcy Waldgrave,
who knows damn well what it's going to do. It's
going to rot on the count for a weekend and
you call it work.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
As you said that, I thought to myself, I know
exactly how you will handle the incoming rush of sport.
And there is so much to talk about, including all
blacks Italy. Saday morning, I got a former Italian captain
on the pod today.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Super nice bloke spoken to him before. His name is
Dean Bud. He played for Auckland, for North Winder for
the Blues too, and then he shot off over to Italy,
played there for a number of years Canton and a
few times well, and he knows the ins and outs
of Italian rugs, because I've got some things to ask
him about their lack of success, to put it politely, Yeah,
(01:18):
and it hasn't been It hasn't been a.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Happy time for Itily, certainlygainst the All Blacks and in
recent times as well. So we've got that, We've got
a few things to kick around them the chamber. And
I've got some thoughts on the All Whites and who
may or may not make their World Cup squad when
and if but when they make it to the tournament
in twenty twenty six. So a bunch to pack in.
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
In other news, let's get just.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Started with a look at some of the big sports
stories around today. Sam Kin and TJ. Pettinata have been
named for one final All Blacks test though fronts up
against Italy Sunday morning in Churin his head coach Gott Robertson.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Been there and felt it and said that you can
teach others, and that's what they've done. You know, they've
taken a week pudu role and they've taken a lot
of time and care and mentoring and also keep that's accountable.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Keevy driver Liam Lawson continues to face questions around his
Formula One future. Ahead of a maid in Las Vegas
Grand Prix this weekend, He's been asked about his plans
for next year.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I have stare, let's say, but obviously the expectation on
us is high and the season's not done yet. So
as much as his indication on what they want him
to do and what the future holds, I don't have
anything confirmed right now.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And the Judd Flavel coaching era with the Tall Blacks
has begun with a narrow ninety three eighty nine loss
to the Philippines in Manila as part of their Asia
Cup qualifying campaign.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Atmosphere like this, This is great, great international basketball.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
The crowd's amazing. Yeah, just a few positions they would
like to have back.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Former Italian skipper Dean budd It joins us. Now, Dean,
how are you mate? You will?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Yeah bloody good. Thanks you yourself, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Not so bad. Looking forward to the final test of
the season. Of course, that you played for Italy captain
to Italy for a handful of tests as well. When
you saw this team announced from the All Blacks. Did
you think it was a bit like taking a bazooka
to a knife fight. This is a hell of a team,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Well, I've got to defend my Italian boys and not
pretend that at least a semi automatic weapon as opposed
to a knife. But no, I did expect the All
Blacks to want to finish the season strong. I think
it's a message from Raizer. I say he doesn't want
to risk anything. He's certainly been in the firing line
(03:45):
of a few critics and media throughout his first year
in charge, so I think you'll want to make sure
he cleaned this one up.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Where's the Italian what's their attitude coming from? Last time
they played it was in a World Cup and they
nearly nearly got a ton scored against them, So I
expect anything less than I don't know how do you
target this All Blacks match? When you when you take
them on because you played them once, couldn't play them
a second time because of the rain in Japan. But
what's the thought process around how you play? What is
(04:12):
a good result?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah? I think and speaking with a few of them
this week, it's going to just be about re establishing
a bit of respect from the rugby community and winning
the hearts of the fans back, and just delivering a
strong performance. I hate to say as a professional athlete
going into games that we don't expect to win, but
I don't think, at least quite at the stage where
(04:35):
we're expecting to win, probably the right thing. I know
that sounds like a bit of a loser's mentality, but
I think going out there in a strong performance and
getting some credibility back after what was pretty embarrassing to
feed at the World Cup will be their goal.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So is it the case of not trying to slow
the damage down, but more's the point of maybe achieving
the achievables as far as tackles, as far as miss
tackles or not having them, as far as some form
of parity in the scrums and the ruts. Does it
look too like that as opposed to an overall victory.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, I think they'll want to be strong in defense.
I think that's let them down a little bit, especially
with the RGS in the last kind of fifteen minutes
of their test. I think even even so, the Georgia
game led in a few what they would deem the
soft tries through in a game where they dominated a
lot of possession. I think they'll they'll want to be stronger,
(05:33):
they want to be more clinical there, and that will
then give them the opportunity to hopefully nab a couple
of tries here and there.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Dean bad joins us. So from my Italian skipper, looking
ahead to the last match of the All Blacks Northern Tour,
tilt us around Italian rugby full stop. Because you're around
there for quite some time. It doesn't seem to have
gained the traction that most would like after being admitted
to the six Nations all those years ago. What's holding
(06:04):
them back?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Dean?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm always very proud of my time, so I
hate to be hypercritical of what went wrong. But there's
just a little bit of inconsistency from every level. I
think the federation seems to change leadership every three years.
It's not driven by a businessman as such. Generally speaking,
it's a voting system over.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
There where.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
A new guy can come in and a change directive
like the Winds. So I think they've just lacked that consistency.
I think they've lacked really entering into the professional era
of funding support and kind of call it fifteen staff
teams where you have a coach for every aspect and
you have mental skills coaches and all the things. I
(06:48):
just don't think they've really bought and completely just yet.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Is there engagement across the nation. I'm sure it's reduced
to pockets of the population considering the mad passionate fans
of football. I get you, but is there a want
to people enjoy this game? Has it got it attraction?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yes? Absolutely it has. The North the North is pretty
pretty much rugby driven. I mean football, you can't can't
hide from it, and volleyball and basketball. They're all pretty
dominant sports over there. But a lot of the fans
I think we started to win hearts. We would go
to games and spect the fans afterwards, and I said,
you know, this is my first rugby game. I used
to be a football fan, but I just can't watch
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that anymore. That they're pretenders. We want a real we
want a real sport. And so I think that there's
a change in the air over there around supporting rugby
and and kind of the authenticity that it brings as
a as a movement. As a person that it creates
and as a game.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Who's the strength of Italian rugby.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I think there's They're still pretty strong upfront. I think
I've always believed obviously I planned to my own role,
there have been afford I always thought we were better.
But I think their backs have come a long way.
I think for a while utterly really struggled to deliver
a good attacking back line. I think now there they're
starting to run with some depth, with some purpose, with
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some control. I think the back line is starting to
become a lot stronger. Capotsa the back and absolute X
factor player. You've got Montane on the wing. Incredible. There's
there's just there's a little bit more to their back
line now, which is which brings a little bit more
flair hopefully when the forwards can get some go forward.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hey Dean, real pleasure mate. Thanks very much for your
time of great weekend.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Appreciate it. Thank you sports Sex well.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
The All Whites have played their final matches of the
year and as expected, dealt comfortably with Vanuatu and some more,
scoring eight goals and back to back matches to reinforce
that they are indeed the big fish in Oceania football now.
Because of the expanded forty eight nation format and direct
entry for Oceania, they're now just two games away from
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the World Cup. The Oceania semi finals and final are
in March of next year, and with all due respect
to Fiji, Tahiti and New Caledonia, it would take an
almost unimaginable catastrophe for the All Whites not to be
at the next World Cup. Then it's a matter of
who is actually going. Coach Darren Baiseley is now in
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the very happy position of having too many good players
to fit on the plane. At the last World Cup
in twenty ten that New Zealand went to the side
contained a couple of players who weren't even full time professionals.
Now there are very very good players playing in good
teams in good professional leagues who will not be in
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the squad. Now, every coach will tell you competition for
places is a very good thing. It sharpens the focus
of everybody, encourages excellence and makes every training session, let
alone every game, a virtual audition for future inclusion. It's
likely the All Whites will play in half a dozen
international windows between March of next year and where the
World Cup rolls around in mid twenty twenty six, and
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every player will want to be involved in every window.
No one's going to say no because no one will
want to miss a chance to stake their claim. It's
yet to be absolutely confirmed, but World Cup squads will
be either twenty three or twenty six players. I reckon
you can probably write down fifteen who will definitely be
in the squad. For the remaining places, there are twenty
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or thirty guys with genuine designs on being involved. It's
going to make for and intriguing eighteen months ahead as
the all white squad starts to take shape.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And to the Chamber we go. We were here twenty
four hours ago, Darcy in both pontificating about what we
thought might happen with the all white look.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I know it's on tape and I know people have
played it over and over again, but that didn't happen.
We didn't predict completely the wrong team, did we.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We did.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
What we can say is we can say we asked
ourselves what would we do? Yes, what do you think
they'll do?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What will we do?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Even having said that, though, if you said to me, hey,
what do you reckon, they'll do Piney. I wouldn't have
picked this team, would you do?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No one, it's a huge surprise. It really is old
made of mind. Dylan Cleaver used the quote razors pick
the ferrari to race a feat and that's what he's done, right.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yes, yes, it's effectively a full strength team. We talked
yesterday about players being given opportunities, players who haven't had
a lot of game time being given not only places
in the squad, but starts. But you look at that team,
the fifteen that he is named in particular, and that's
a team you'd picked to play a Tier one nation,
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isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's the strongest team because remember there are players out
with injury, but that's the strongest team he could pick.
So when you look at intent and a way to
end the season, Scott Robertson's going you're not going to
forget the way we finish. We are putting a line
in the sand game. This is where we sit. It
doesn't matter if it's only Italy. We need to finish
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on a high and I suppose you've got to respect that,
don't you? Pony?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You do how much of this darts do you reckon
is because they lost last weekend. Had they won and
gone bang bang bang wins over England Island France, do
you think we'd be looking at a different team.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I get the feeling that Scott Robertson's got a killer
instinct about him and what he does, and he wouldn't
have deviated. Though we were wrong yesterday too, so I
could be wrong again, But there's something about the way
he selects teams and what he does. He remember the
Crusaders and they had retiring great and why Crockett. Do
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you think they picked him for the last couple of games. No,
wasn't strong enough to win. Brutal, brutal.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, But what he has done with a couple of
retiring all blacks is he has included them. But I
don't think there's sentiment here because I think they are
both part of the of the best twenty three, particularly
Sam Kaine who starts in the seven jumper, because if
it's not him, I wonder who it is. You know,
they could go back I guess to the you know,
to the way they finished last week with Larchai Savvier
Satiti or something like that. But I think Sam Caine
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has earned his place, and I'm looking forward to seeing
him for the last time in a black jersey, even
though he's not going to captain the side as you.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Suggested yesterday, we come on, you asked me. I suggested,
why wouldn't you? But again no sentiment in there. And
I almost feel for the Italians, but they nearly leaked
one hundred points last time that the All Blacks took
him on at the World. That was brutal, and I
wonder if deep inside or maybe not so deep quite
Jellow Robinson's going put on a sentry to end my
(13:38):
first year in charge. So how they continue once they start,
and we hope they start, well, it's going to be
interesting because you know what it's like, you know, foot
off throat. From time to time it does happen.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It does look. I think it's a it's a statement
selection by Scott Robertson. It's not what, as you just said,
most of us selected to see or expected to see
when we wake up this morning to see this twenty
three names. So you're very much looking forward to seeing
how they get on party.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What's your big hope out of this? What are you
actually want to get out of this? Last eighty minutes
of football for the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, listening to you talk over the last two or
three minutes, I want to see that ruthless Razor streak.
I want to see this team in his image of
the way that, as you say, teams that he coached
in Red and Black used to put feet on throats
and not let up. Look, I would love to see
obviously a cohesive performance and eighty minute performance, but also
a performance where if they are heed by forty or
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fifty to twenty minutes to go, they're not satisfied with that.
Guys come off the bench like Peter Nada, Harvilly McKenzie,
you know vity Larkey, these kind of guys and just
continue it on because what do they say, You're only
as good as your last game. So he'll be hoping
Razor that their last game is pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I just don't want any of our super rugby stars
to get broken to pieces.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
There is that too. There is that too, but it's
only going to be heate November. They've got a bit
of time to recover. Hey, we've taken a bit of
time on the All Blacks. I do want to get
your view though, on Liam Lawson. He races Formula one
and Las Vegas this weekend. What should we expect from Liam?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We expect what we've got from him recently. I think points,
that's what we want, one, two, three, whatever. We expect
points from this guy because now the pressure is very
much on him, plainly on checker as well, said Gioperis.
But he's shown that he can score points, he can
drive with the best of them, He's got big elbows
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that he puts out there. He won't step down. So
what I would like to see is a continuation of
what he's shown us already, and not to I suppose,
back off, but to carry on going. I deserve to
be in this formula and I'm going to show you
why and how. It's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It is exciting.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Have I got this right?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Does this race start at ten o'clock at night?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Didn't that happen? And I think it was happened last
year as well, And by the end of the race
everyone was frozen to death. They they needed more puffers
than you'd have in a winter's day in christ to
actually survive that. But it's international, isn't it. They need
to do it. I suppose a big thing as well.
Pinty is traction around Formula one in America because Liberty
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Group who own it, have tried so hard to push
this through drive to survive and try and get the
American public to buy into this. So there's a lot
around this. For the future of this competition, and being
very close to Mexico, there'll be a lot of anti
Liam Lawson sentiment, should.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I say, I can imagine the Zudio Paris fans will
be out in force, absolutely in forced. It's an intriguing
time and isn't it so great as you say, to
have a key we racing an F one and hopefully
for a long time to come. That's all we have
time for. Unfortunately in the chamber for today leading a.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
And that brings to an end the Sportsbooks podcast for
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Speaker 3 (17:15):
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
The idea indeed, And don't forget weekend sport midday through
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Speaker 3 (17:46):
Us I will indeed thank you for your time.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
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