November 28, 2024 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 29th November 2024, Fantasy Super Rugby will be launched for the 2025 Super Rugby Season. Super Rugby CEO Jack Mesley joins the podcast to discuss what he expects this will do for the fan engagement in Super Rugby.
D'Arcy offers his thoughts on whether cricket teams need to appeal for a wicket to be given out.
Plus, Elliott Smith joins the chamber to talk about his thoughts on the All Blacks season.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
HI.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
There, welcome on into the Sports Fix podcast. One name
is Darcy walder Grave. Coming up in this edition, the
edition of course on Friday, the twenty ninth of November
twenty twenty four, we have a chat with one of
the power brokers at Super Rugby Pacific. He is the
new CEO. His name is Jack Measley and they have
(00:42):
a coming plan around engagement. We'll tell you what that
is shortly. I've also got a few thoughts around the
vagaries of a very curious game. What game is this? Well,
we all know it Test cricket. What an oddity it is,
especially after what didn't happen to Rutch and Ravendret yesterday.
And finally joining me in the chamber, Elliott Smith, returning
(01:06):
from his duties as our voice of rugby all over
the Northern Hemisphere. He's landed, he's touched down, and he's
ready to talk about the big sports stories of the
day with me here in the chamber on the Fix.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
In other news, there's some bite sized sports chunks for
you to digest. First former Aussie quick, nasty, fasty paceman
blah blah blah. Brett Lee has some advice for the
Baggy Greens after their first test demolition at the hands
of the Indian tourists.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
They have to make sure that they give a whole
of thray and forgets them a chance that though they
have to travel their pandful.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
On a few things. I don't think collectively in the
second innings, I think astray of a little bit too short.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Keep it simple.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Striker AKFC marksman Guillermo Mai, who nailed the winning goal
in the last victory over MacArthur, as like a dog
who's tasted blood for the first time, he wants more.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
That's Australa.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You always needs care goals feels good knowing it's open.
So I hope where are coming?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
The unbeaten Auckland A League club look to carry on
their outstanding unbeaten start putting away the Newcastle Jets tomorrow
at home and there was a murder on the dance floor.
The Breakers were shattered last night by the Elawarra Hawks
and the NBL shredded one oh nine seventy one by
the Okas Breakers coach Pretrie Corpenan is called the cops.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We got outro turnovers every time fast friend.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
They had twenty three points from our return overs twenty
seven to three fast break points. Oh we got killed
killed and that sports news folk who made.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
It new Scandavidian It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
We're joined now by Jack Mesley. He is the Super
Rugby Pacific CEO. Jack, welcome, I trust you well and
looking forward to the weekend.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah, thanks Darcy very much. Much been a big week
as we plan for the season kicking off in February,
so looking forward to putting some feed up. And we've
got the Wallabies this weekend, so still a bit of
rugbyond to keep interested.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And the Wallaby is is stealing New Zealanders as well.
I thing out of North Harbor, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And that's a good trick. Why not?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's right?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Let's talk about Super Rugby Pacific because you've got an
official fantasy competition for next season.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's the teams.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Are involved, the players, the Players Association, everybody has brought
into this. What is it, Jack? What are you doing.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Yeah, I mean it's not a new concept Darcy, as
you know, but yeah, we're really pleased that together with
you know, with the clubs, the players and the unions,
we've been able to bring fantasy to Super Rugby. So
you know, most people will know what fantasy is having
played at across different sports. But it's just a great
(04:10):
tool to be able to get people involved, get people,
you know, particularly you know, new fans and younger fans
involved in and around Super Rugby and just fuel a
bit of banter and get everyone excited about it. A
new way to engage with the company.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What was the driving force when you turned up?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Who sat it down?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And when you know what we should try this? It's
been done before, but let's have a crack.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Why Well, you know, I guess the competition's made some
really good changes recently in bringing fans into the center
of the room and making sure that we're really conscious
about what fans needs are and so that's come about
by the new joint venture, the new structures we've got
(04:52):
in place at a board level, and then some centralized
management coming in to really focus on growing Super Rugby
and do that by making sure fans are in the
center room. So yeah, we've been wanting to do it
for a while, but you know, I think some of that,
some of that sort of structural changes enabled us to
move a bit quicker and put fans more in the
(05:13):
center of what we're doing. So this is one of
those kind of initiatives. And you know, the fans will
be able to see more of these types of initiatives
as we continue to push forward with Super Rugby. So yeah,
and it's been great. Everyone wants it. The players are excited,
the clubs are excited, and yeah, we're really excited to
(05:34):
announce today that it's coming. And yeah, we want we
want fans and media outlets to have fun with it.
You know, we hope it feels a whole lot of discussion.
And you know, there's no doubt there's plenty of Kiwis
and and Aussies that think they know a thing or
two about rugby selections, so they can now have a
bit of fun with fantasy and put that put that
(05:54):
into action.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's a dangerous place for broadcast to go. I tell
you that I've tried it before, so it's not ideal.
What I'm sure the fans are rolling. What tweaks have
you made? Because fan has been around in some way,
shape or form for quite some time now, Is there
anything knew about this version, anything we need to know
about that might make it stand out or make people
actually want to engage in this jack?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, I think, first of all, I think the key
thing is we've partnered with the guys that are the
best in the world of this, So the platform is
going to be really good, really simple to use, and
also has functionality that kind of enables you to push
to social and engage through the different the different digital mechanisms.
(06:38):
So I think to use a friendly nature of this
platform is going to be one of its strength. We've got,
you know, sixteen week sixteen rounds to be engaged with,
so holding people's interests throughout those sixteen weeks is super important.
And you know, as over time we'll sort of release
(06:58):
the rules about how points points are made, but essentially
you know people will be We'll select fifteen players each
week within our cater budget everyone or you'll have to
fill all fifteen positions, and then a captain and a
vice captain, and the captain and vice captain will get
some index points, so more points for those guys. So yeah,
(07:24):
it's going to be it's going to be pretty simple,
but we think that's pretty important. You don't want to
make these things too complicated throughout a sixteen week period.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Make Super Rugby super again. Jack Messi joins us as
the CEO of Super Rugby Pacific. Just one last thing,
you mentioned that you haven't quite got the finer details
sort of out yet filed. How come are you're going
to market with us now but it's not yet a
finished product?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Is that not a little strange?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
No, Well, I mean we're finalizing the build in the
in the back end, so squads, squads are all being
just being finalized. So yeah, there's a bit of a
process to how these things roll out, but we we
wanted to get this out there. And now as the
sort of international season comes to a close and people
(08:15):
start thinking about the next phase of rugby, which is
going to be Super Ugby specific things like you know,
those final squads and getting all of the digital bill
done are our next steps. And then you know, we
also will be excited to announce prizes and what other
things fans can look forward to into the new year.
As we ramp up through January into February for season
(08:39):
kickoff on the fourteenth of February, so Valentine's Day, mate,
So you know what you know what you're going to
be doing on feb fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Do as I do, not what I say. So, mister
jack Nessli, I'm expecting that you'll be engaged in this yourself,
and I'm looking forward to threshing the pants off you
in fantasy rugby. And we thank you very much for
your time. Now that I've assu your debt threat, I'm
going to hang.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Up, no problem, Darcy. Thanks for you chating. I hope
all the team they get behind it. I'd be very
interested to see some of your results, mate, So I'll
keep tracking that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Cricket is such a weird game, dripping in tradition, dripping
in technology, but sometimes avoiding the obvious. What happened yesterday
to Rutchen Revenger it was particularly odd, but not without precedent.
This has happened before. One of the more curious laws
(09:38):
in cricket is that if you do not appeal to
the umpire for a decision based on an LBW or
a court behind, the umpire will not adjudicate on that call.
You just won't even though he or she may know
that the ball sniffed the bat, as in the case
of Rutch and Revenge yesterday, they don't have to give
(10:00):
them out until they are asked, which is strange. It's
more than strange. In the old days, you could talk
about the spirit of cricket, which as far as I'm concerned,
is dead in the water and has been for a
number of years. Stop HARKing back to those old days.
They don't exist anymore. There is no spirit of cricket.
It is black or white. You would think maybe with
(10:23):
the spirit of cricket that Rutchen Revender it would have walked.
But maybe he didn't even know that he'd necked the ball.
It was such a day, tiny blip on the snickometer
that maybe he didn't know he'd hit it. But when
it went upstairs, when it went to the instant replay,
when it went to the technology, it was revealed that
(10:43):
Rotchen Revender did indeed hit the ball, but the English
didn't appeal. But don't appeal, how was the umpire supposed
to give you out? Ridiculous When you look at the
advance in technology in the game of cricket over the
last ten twenty years even we've got to a stage
now where a no ball is called from upstairs. They're
(11:03):
checking back the tape. They know if a bowl has transgressed.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So why on.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Earth don't the people in the replay room when they
identify an edge send the guy packing. I don't think
you can use technology for one aspect of the game
but completely ignore it for another. This, however, would not
have been a problem with the Indian team because they
appeal for everything, and they would have been and Rutchen
(11:32):
would have been out.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Flimbing into the chamber. Now the man we'd almost forgotten,
Nah joke, Sir Elliott has been away for so long,
our voice of Rugby covering the Northern Tour. He's finally
got back.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Drag him straight back into the studio and say work.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Welcome back into the grind.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Good to be here. Did you miss it now? I did?
I missed you plenty. I missed the warmer weather as well.
I was getting cold by the end of it, Darcy.
So I'm good to be here.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, you've done plenty of this. Let's look back, so
we won't like really push it, but quickly, now you've
come back, you've had a lot, you've you've unpacked everything,
you've had a chance to breathe.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Six seven out of team.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, probably lean to one to six. In all honesty,
there was some promising signs through the season, but not
for long enough. In the think consistency of performances something
the All Blacks need to look at heading into twenty
twenty five. But if you'd see it embarking on the
end of year tour, the middle three games, the big
three games, they would win two and lose the other
by a point, I think most people would have said
(12:39):
that's a good return. Unfortunately, the Lesleague game, they should
have tried out some younger talent there. It was a
missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They were they were so I'm not saying Italian. So
they played well. They finally defended.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
They did that. They banked basically defense as the only
thing I think they trained for the entire week is
my understanding. So look, a lots of improvement from the
All Blacks. You just hope the lessons that they've learned
around some of those playing those players for five weeks
in the row, Wallace of Titi others for four. They
learned that Heading into twenty twenty five and they learn
various things about the players that they've got is enough.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
To suggest that this is what they were doing the
first year, conservative Scott Robertson sorting himself out, getting us
ducks in a row and then he let them release
the next year. Is that what you've seen.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And there's a lot of pressure. You know you're coming
into this job and you, as Scott Robertson, you're expected
to keep winning. There is no time off period for
the All Blacks. There's no rebuild period for the All Blacks,
even if they are rebuilding. And I think next year
they've got a base now with some players leaving as well,
Caine obviously going Pedanara, but they'll feel a bit more
confident in the way they play. Certainly wasn't the year
(13:41):
that they would have wanted, but I think if they
take the best parts of this year, build it, build
some more depth heading into twenty twenty five, which I
think is a real crucial year. It's a middle point
in the Rugby Cup cycle. Then we'll find a lot
more about about this team next year.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Foundation building good stuff. Still with no we'll talk about
more rugby in a second. I want to go back
to cricket. There's a fascinating story around Russian Revenger. They
didn't hit the cover off it, but it was an
edge and it was found out by Do they call
it snicker still or is it going back to the
new school hotspot?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
They are like Snaker to Snicker.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And he hit the ball, but no one actually appealed
for that, so he didn't get given that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
When would you see that in test cricket with all
the eyes on it at the moment, knowing that you've
got that ability to send up reviews as well. You know,
I can't imagine anyone, you know, you think that if
it's close to the bat usually appealing.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Aren't you question means appeal before you've let the ball mate?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I've not even asked the question, not even go okay,
we don't have any more reviews left, but not to appeal.
You just don't see that in test cricket.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Wait, what happens though?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
With a no ball?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
They're upstairs already looking at it before it's happened. Right,
if it happens, they indicate that it's a no ball.
Why don't they do this with the court behind? Why
don't they do this with an edge?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, it's one of those old school cricket things, isn't that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You've got to give the old school cricket stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You've got to a pick, no, I thinks to know.
You've we've got to appeal for a wicket. You've got
to appeal the umpire that that was out. Even typically
I think you're supposed to do it. And it's bold.
You know, you're still supposed to appeal and say that
was out. So I like it. And it's one of
those vagaries of cricket that you wouldn't see any other
sport that a player is out. But if they don't
make the appeal to the umpire, then it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Out old school where Elliott Smith and Elliott Super Rugby Pacific.
They've announced the Fantasy League. Now this is not a
new concept, but the words, the phrases being news putting
the fan at the center of the rooms.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Just keep that one phrase is overdue. Yeah, this is
the new one.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So it's happening as of next year.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Good and different.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Great, absolutely great. This is what Super Rugby needs. It
needs more investment, especially in games where your specific team,
if you support one, is not playing. And I think
that's the magic of those fantasy competitions, be the Premier League, NBA, NFL, NRL.
You immediately are gravitated towards watching more content because you go,
(16:09):
how many points is this vally going to get? I'm
going to watch and see because it could be a
big part of you know, whether I win this fantasy
game this weekend.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Or we learn more about the team, you get more appreciation.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
For the competition as a whole. I really like the idea.
I think it's been well over d you. I know
a couple of other companies have had a crack at
it through reasons, but this is the first time it's
been competition backed and that means a great more deal
behind it. You get those accurate stats and it just
enhances that the viewership of the game. I think it
is a really, really, really smart move and something that
(16:42):
super rob should have looked at along ago. And look,
I've got in our old fantasy and our old team's
got three of them. You know, during the season, you're
always looking around the weekend. Okay, we've got trying to
get twenty three points out of this last game. My
opponent needs twenty seven or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
To bible and love to compete. And as Jack Messi
told us that envy beforehand. People think they know it all.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They want to be SELECTI. So there we are.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And if you're in New Zealand and you go, okay, well,
I've got this player in the Western Force team and
they're playing you know, the wartas in the final game
of the round. Would you watch it? Usually? But if
you'd a couple of key players in there, you might
keep a very very close on I think you'll only
be a good thing for Super Rugby. Well over you
as I said.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
And Jack Messi, I think's going to play well. I
hope so because I challenged him and I'm going to
downtraiult the guy.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'm going to smash it and join me Lan.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
We'll be in absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Elliot Smith, thanks for joining us in the chamber.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think he does.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
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Speaker 3 (17:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
HI.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
There, welcome on into the Sports Fix podcast. One name
is Darcy walder Grave. Coming up in this edition, the
edition of course on Friday, the twenty ninth of November
twenty twenty four, we have a chat with one of
the power brokers at Super Rugby Pacific. He is the
new CEO. His name is Jack Measley and they have
(00:42):
a coming plan around engagement. We'll tell you what that
is shortly. I've also got a few thoughts around the
vagaries of a very curious game. What game is this? Well,
we all know it Test cricket. What an oddity it is,
especially after what didn't happen to Rutch and Ravendret yesterday.
And finally joining me in the chamber, Elliott Smith, returning
(01:06):
from his duties as our voice of rugby all over
the Northern Hemisphere. He's landed, he's touched down, and he's
ready to talk about the big sports stories of the
day with me here in the chamber on the Fix.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
In other news, there's some bite sized sports chunks for
you to digest. First former Aussie quick, nasty, fasty paceman
blah blah blah. Brett Lee has some advice for the
Baggy Greens after their first test demolition at the hands
of the Indian tourists.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
They have to make sure that they give a whole
of thray and forgets them a chance that though they
have to travel their pandful.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
On a few things. I don't think collectively in the
second innings, I think astray of a little bit too short.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Keep it simple.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Striker AKFC marksman Guillermo Mai, who nailed the winning goal
in the last victory over MacArthur, as like a dog
who's tasted blood for the first time, he wants more.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
That's Australa.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You always needs care goals feels good knowing it's open.
So I hope where are coming?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
The unbeaten Auckland A League club look to carry on
their outstanding unbeaten start putting away the Newcastle Jets tomorrow
at home and there was a murder on the dance floor.
The Breakers were shattered last night by the Elawarra Hawks
and the NBL shredded one oh nine seventy one by
the Okas Breakers coach Pretrie Corpenan is called the cops.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We got outro turnovers every time fast friend.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
They had twenty three points from our return overs twenty
seven to three fast break points. Oh we got killed
killed and that sports news folk who made.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
It new Scandavidian It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
We're joined now by Jack Mesley. He is the Super
Rugby Pacific CEO. Jack, welcome, I trust you well and
looking forward to the weekend.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah, thanks Darcy very much. Much been a big week
as we plan for the season kicking off in February,
so looking forward to putting some feed up. And we've
got the Wallabies this weekend, so still a bit of
rugbyond to keep interested.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And the Wallaby is is stealing New Zealanders as well.
I thing out of North Harbor, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And that's a good trick. Why not?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's right?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Let's talk about Super Rugby Pacific because you've got an
official fantasy competition for next season.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's the teams.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Are involved, the players, the Players Association, everybody has brought
into this. What is it, Jack? What are you doing.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Yeah, I mean it's not a new concept Darcy, as
you know, but yeah, we're really pleased that together with
you know, with the clubs, the players and the unions,
we've been able to bring fantasy to Super Rugby. So
you know, most people will know what fantasy is having
played at across different sports. But it's just a great
(04:10):
tool to be able to get people involved, get people,
you know, particularly you know, new fans and younger fans
involved in and around Super Rugby and just fuel a
bit of banter and get everyone excited about it. A
new way to engage with the company.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What was the driving force when you turned up?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Who sat it down?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And when you know what we should try this? It's
been done before, but let's have a crack.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Why Well, you know, I guess the competition's made some
really good changes recently in bringing fans into the center
of the room and making sure that we're really conscious
about what fans needs are and so that's come about
by the new joint venture, the new structures we've got
(04:52):
in place at a board level, and then some centralized
management coming in to really focus on growing Super Rugby
and do that by making sure fans are in the
center room. So yeah, we've been wanting to do it
for a while, but you know, I think some of that,
some of that sort of structural changes enabled us to
move a bit quicker and put fans more in the
(05:13):
center of what we're doing. So this is one of
those kind of initiatives. And you know, the fans will
be able to see more of these types of initiatives
as we continue to push forward with Super Rugby. So yeah,
and it's been great. Everyone wants it. The players are excited,
the clubs are excited, and yeah, we're really excited to
(05:34):
announce today that it's coming. And yeah, we want we
want fans and media outlets to have fun with it.
You know, we hope it feels a whole lot of discussion.
And you know, there's no doubt there's plenty of Kiwis
and and Aussies that think they know a thing or
two about rugby selections, so they can now have a
bit of fun with fantasy and put that put that
(05:54):
into action.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's a dangerous place for broadcast to go. I tell
you that I've tried it before, so it's not ideal.
What I'm sure the fans are rolling. What tweaks have
you made? Because fan has been around in some way,
shape or form for quite some time now, Is there
anything knew about this version, anything we need to know
about that might make it stand out or make people
actually want to engage in this jack?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, I think, first of all, I think the key
thing is we've partnered with the guys that are the
best in the world of this, So the platform is
going to be really good, really simple to use, and
also has functionality that kind of enables you to push
to social and engage through the different the different digital mechanisms.
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So I think to use a friendly nature of this
platform is going to be one of its strength. We've got,
you know, sixteen week sixteen rounds to be engaged with,
so holding people's interests throughout those sixteen weeks is super important.
And you know, as over time we'll sort of release
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the rules about how points points are made, but essentially
you know people will be We'll select fifteen players each
week within our cater budget everyone or you'll have to
fill all fifteen positions, and then a captain and a
vice captain, and the captain and vice captain will get
some index points, so more points for those guys. So yeah,
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it's going to be it's going to be pretty simple,
but we think that's pretty important. You don't want to
make these things too complicated throughout a sixteen week period.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Make Super Rugby super again. Jack Messi joins us as
the CEO of Super Rugby Pacific. Just one last thing,
you mentioned that you haven't quite got the finer details
sort of out yet filed. How come are you're going
to market with us now but it's not yet a
finished product?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Is that not a little strange?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
No, Well, I mean we're finalizing the build in the
in the back end, so squads, squads are all being
just being finalized. So yeah, there's a bit of a
process to how these things roll out, but we we
wanted to get this out there. And now as the
sort of international season comes to a close and people
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start thinking about the next phase of rugby, which is
going to be Super Ugby specific things like you know,
those final squads and getting all of the digital bill
done are our next steps. And then you know, we
also will be excited to announce prizes and what other
things fans can look forward to into the new year.
As we ramp up through January into February for season
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kickoff on the fourteenth of February, so Valentine's Day, mate,
So you know what you know what you're going to
be doing on feb fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Do as I do, not what I say. So, mister
jack Nessli, I'm expecting that you'll be engaged in this yourself,
and I'm looking forward to threshing the pants off you
in fantasy rugby. And we thank you very much for
your time. Now that I've assu your debt threat, I'm
going to hang.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Up, no problem, Darcy. Thanks for you chating. I hope
all the team they get behind it. I'd be very
interested to see some of your results, mate, So I'll
keep tracking that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Cricket is such a weird game, dripping in tradition, dripping
in technology, but sometimes avoiding the obvious. What happened yesterday
to Rutchen Revenger it was particularly odd, but not without precedent.
This has happened before. One of the more curious laws
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in cricket is that if you do not appeal to
the umpire for a decision based on an LBW or
a court behind, the umpire will not adjudicate on that call.
You just won't even though he or she may know
that the ball sniffed the bat, as in the case
of Rutch and Revenge yesterday, they don't have to give
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them out until they are asked, which is strange. It's
more than strange. In the old days, you could talk
about the spirit of cricket, which as far as I'm concerned,
is dead in the water and has been for a
number of years. Stop HARKing back to those old days.
They don't exist anymore. There is no spirit of cricket.
It is black or white. You would think maybe with
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the spirit of cricket that Rutchen Revender it would have walked.
But maybe he didn't even know that he'd necked the ball.
It was such a day, tiny blip on the snickometer
that maybe he didn't know he'd hit it. But when
it went upstairs, when it went to the instant replay,
when it went to the technology, it was revealed that
(10:43):
Rotchen Revender did indeed hit the ball, but the English
didn't appeal. But don't appeal, how was the umpire supposed
to give you out? Ridiculous When you look at the
advance in technology in the game of cricket over the
last ten twenty years even we've got to a stage
now where a no ball is called from upstairs. They're
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checking back the tape. They know if a bowl has transgressed.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So why on.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Earth don't the people in the replay room when they
identify an edge send the guy packing. I don't think
you can use technology for one aspect of the game
but completely ignore it for another. This, however, would not
have been a problem with the Indian team because they
appeal for everything, and they would have been and Rutchen
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would have been out.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Flimbing into the chamber. Now the man we'd almost forgotten,
Nah joke, Sir Elliott has been away for so long,
our voice of Rugby covering the Northern Tour. He's finally
got back.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Drag him straight back into the studio and say work.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Welcome back into the grind.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Good to be here. Did you miss it now? I did?
I missed you plenty. I missed the warmer weather as well.
I was getting cold by the end of it, Darcy.
So I'm good to be here.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, you've done plenty of this. Let's look back, so
we won't like really push it, but quickly, now you've
come back, you've had a lot, you've you've unpacked everything,
you've had a chance to breathe.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Six seven out of team.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, probably lean to one to six. In all honesty,
there was some promising signs through the season, but not
for long enough. In the think consistency of performances something
the All Blacks need to look at heading into twenty
twenty five. But if you'd see it embarking on the
end of year tour, the middle three games, the big
three games, they would win two and lose the other
by a point, I think most people would have said
(12:39):
that's a good return. Unfortunately, the Lesleague game, they should
have tried out some younger talent there. It was a
missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They were they were so I'm not saying Italian. So
they played well. They finally defended.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
They did that. They banked basically defense as the only
thing I think they trained for the entire week is
my understanding. So look, a lots of improvement from the
All Blacks. You just hope the lessons that they've learned
around some of those playing those players for five weeks
in the row, Wallace of Titi others for four. They
learned that Heading into twenty twenty five and they learn
various things about the players that they've got is enough.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
To suggest that this is what they were doing the
first year, conservative Scott Robertson sorting himself out, getting us
ducks in a row and then he let them release
the next year. Is that what you've seen.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And there's a lot of pressure. You know you're coming
into this job and you, as Scott Robertson, you're expected
to keep winning. There is no time off period for
the All Blacks. There's no rebuild period for the All Blacks,
even if they are rebuilding. And I think next year
they've got a base now with some players leaving as well,
Caine obviously going Pedanara, but they'll feel a bit more
confident in the way they play. Certainly wasn't the year
(13:41):
that they would have wanted, but I think if they
take the best parts of this year, build it, build
some more depth heading into twenty twenty five, which I
think is a real crucial year. It's a middle point
in the Rugby Cup cycle. Then we'll find a lot
more about about this team next year.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Foundation building good stuff. Still with no we'll talk about
more rugby in a second. I want to go back
to cricket. There's a fascinating story around Russian Revenger. They
didn't hit the cover off it, but it was an
edge and it was found out by Do they call
it snicker still or is it going back to the
new school hotspot?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
They are like Snaker to Snicker.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And he hit the ball, but no one actually appealed
for that, so he didn't get given that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
When would you see that in test cricket with all
the eyes on it at the moment, knowing that you've
got that ability to send up reviews as well. You know,
I can't imagine anyone, you know, you think that if
it's close to the bat usually appealing.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Aren't you question means appeal before you've let the ball mate?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I've not even asked the question, not even go okay,
we don't have any more reviews left, but not to appeal.
You just don't see that in test cricket.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Wait, what happens though?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
With a no ball?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
They're upstairs already looking at it before it's happened. Right,
if it happens, they indicate that it's a no ball.
Why don't they do this with the court behind? Why
don't they do this with an edge?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, it's one of those old school cricket things, isn't that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You've got to give the old school cricket stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You've got to a pick, no, I thinks to know.
You've we've got to appeal for a wicket. You've got
to appeal the umpire that that was out. Even typically
I think you're supposed to do it. And it's bold.
You know, you're still supposed to appeal and say that
was out. So I like it. And it's one of
those vagaries of cricket that you wouldn't see any other
sport that a player is out. But if they don't
make the appeal to the umpire, then it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Out old school where Elliott Smith and Elliott Super Rugby Pacific.
They've announced the Fantasy League. Now this is not a
new concept, but the words, the phrases being news putting
the fan at the center of the rooms.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Just keep that one phrase is overdue. Yeah, this is
the new one.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So it's happening as of next year.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Good and different.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Great, absolutely great. This is what Super Rugby needs. It
needs more investment, especially in games where your specific team,
if you support one, is not playing. And I think
that's the magic of those fantasy competitions, be the Premier League, NBA, NFL, NRL.
You immediately are gravitated towards watching more content because you go,
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how many points is this vally going to get? I'm
going to watch and see because it could be a
big part of you know, whether I win this fantasy
game this weekend.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Or we learn more about the team, you get more appreciation.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
For the competition as a whole. I really like the idea.
I think it's been well over d you. I know
a couple of other companies have had a crack at
it through reasons, but this is the first time it's
been competition backed and that means a great more deal
behind it. You get those accurate stats and it just
enhances that the viewership of the game. I think it
is a really, really, really smart move and something that
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super rob should have looked at along ago. And look,
I've got in our old fantasy and our old team's
got three of them. You know, during the season, you're
always looking around the weekend. Okay, we've got trying to
get twenty three points out of this last game. My
opponent needs twenty seven or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
To bible and love to compete. And as Jack Messi
told us that envy beforehand. People think they know it all.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They want to be SELECTI. So there we are.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And if you're in New Zealand and you go, okay, well,
I've got this player in the Western Force team and
they're playing you know, the wartas in the final game
of the round. Would you watch it? Usually? But if
you'd a couple of key players in there, you might
keep a very very close on I think you'll only
be a good thing for Super Rugby. Well over you
as I said.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
And Jack Messi, I think's going to play well. I
hope so because I challenged him and I'm going to
downtraiult the guy.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'm going to smash it and join me Lan.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
We'll be in absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Elliot Smith, thanks for joining us in the chamber.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think he does.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news, how
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Speaker 3 (17:39):
And that's it. Another day dusted, another week wrapped. I'm
Darcy water Grave. Thanks very much for listening to the
Sports Fix. That's Friday's edition twenty ninth of November twenty
twenty four. If you've enjoyed the week's offerings, I encourage
you to subscribe that way on a weekday basis, this
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enjoy your weekend and we'll catch you again next week.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
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