December 9, 2024 • 21 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Tuesday 10 December 2024 - Greyhound Racing New Zealand CEO Edward Rennell talks about the Government's total ban of greyhound racing in New Zealand within the next 20 months.
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on why an All Blacks test at Eden Park will be bigger than Texas.
Plus, Newstalk ZB Sports Journalist Nathan Limm joins the panel to discuss the possibility of four-day test matches.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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SAD B BHY. Hello there and welcome on into the
Sports Fixed podcast. My name is Darcy Waldergrave and on Tuesday,
the tenth of December twenty twenty four, this is your
bite sized chunk of all the sports news you need
to know about. Coming up in this podcast, Edward Ronelle
(00:40):
joins us shortly. Edward is the chief executive officer of
Greyhound Racing m z This is his initial reaction to
the news that was dropped that greyhound racing is over.
It's to be phased out over the next twenty months.
How does it affect him his industry will find out
more when Edward joins us next. I've got some opinion
(01:01):
on the magnificence of Eden Park and the risks of
having the South Africans turn up and play the first
test there of two sometime in early September. This is
a huge move from m ZR. Nathan joins us in
the chamber is the ZB Sports reporter and we'll be
talking about the big sports stories of the day. That's
(01:24):
our master plan. So let's get amongst right here, right
now on the fix.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
In other news, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Say we listen now to the big action in that
sport today, more bite sized chunks for you to digest.
Chief Executive of m z R Mark Robinson is underlining
New Zealand's commitment to Kiwi fans after the failed bid
to take a home test against France to the United
States next year. The French Rugby Federation rejected in Zida's
(01:55):
venture to move a July match against an understrength La
Blue outfit overseas four financial opportunities, citing player welfare.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But our long term strategy involves being able to connect
with fans the world and especially in emerging markets such
as Asia and North America. And as it relates to
North America is obviously that north star point sitting there
with the twenty thirty one Rugby World.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Cup, Australian fast bowler Josh Hazwood is confident he'll be
able to prove his fitness for the third Test in
India in Brisbane starting on Saturday. He's been put through
his paces after missing the Adelaide Test with a side strain.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Up kicked every box so far this week, besides obviously
being a trouble Samaria for me, you know in the past,
so you lean on the side of course and I
guess a little bit, but it's very minor compared to
the last few I've had.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Less risk, more reward. That's the view of former New
Zealand Test opener Brian Young on that specialist role as
the Black Cat prepared to adjust their top order for
the Third Test against England and Hamilton. Devin Conway will
miss the match due to the birth of his first child,
with Mark Chapman coming into the squad, and will Young
(03:04):
the batter likely to move to the top.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Of the order, down my shots into certain areas of
where I could play, and having the ability to leave
the ball that was foreign to me, and the power
of the leave for the opener when it's seeming or swinging.
That's as equally as effective as a cover drive.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
A vex.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Vex Now, News Talks.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We're joined it now by Grehound Racing New Zealand CEO
Edward Renew. Good day to you, Edward. Yeah, namelessness, what
an upsetting time for everybody in the industry. I suppose
my initial question must be must be what's your initial
reaction to the fact that greyhound racing has been stopped,
It's been seized, it no longer exists.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Clearly, Darcy, we're devastated by this decision. We believe that
the industry has made huge strides over the last two
years to enhance our animal welfare and to the point
where many ways we're leading the way from a race
industry point of view. So we're clearly gutted by it
and our hearts go out to the thy and fifty
four people that were estimated to derive a livelihood from
(04:17):
the employment through the industry.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The timing of the release you guys found out when
we found out thoughts around that.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Yeah cool, Yeah, that's you know, we have some concerns
there that we will have rested with the government, but
you know, we've been fully open and providing quarterly reports
with full information to outline all the progress that's been
made in key issues that we've been addressing. So we
would like to have more engagement with the government. We
(04:50):
suddainly will be looking to do that in coming months
as this decision goes through the Select Committee. Crisis.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So as far as what was happening with looking at
the industry has been going on for about a year now.
Do you think they were thorough enough when they came
to this decision that no, we can't do it more.
Does that present a good amount of work from the industry,
from the people investigating.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
From our perspective, I think we've been keen for a
decision to be made, so it was certainty for our
industry participants. So it's very hard for people to invest
in an industry when you've got the sort hanging over
your head. So SETNDY is something we have been advocating for.
But we believe that the industry has addressed the major
(05:38):
concerns that we're outlined in those previous reviews, the comments
around our injury account. Yes, we would like to have
it lower and we're continuing to look at all initiatives
to do it. But from a benchmark perspective, our injury
statistics are lower than Australia, and I look at youth
and Asia of dogs on race day from racing events
(05:59):
is lower than the youth and Asias and their equine cages.
So I think this is a dark day for racing,
the spotlight eventually will on the other cage, and I
don't think that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What was the turning point? Do you think there was
a tipping point in this when the industry was closed?
There's something particular about their investigation.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
I'm not certain. You know, if we looked at the
last reports that have been submitted by the Racy Integrity Board,
who are independent of this, they've been quite positive about
the progress we've been making. So I think that based
on the last few reports, I don't believe the grounds
support this and that it's clearly a political decision. But
(06:41):
you know, when we look forward to outlining why we
believe this decision isn't right.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Targets we offered targets to hit so they didn't close
the industry down Edward.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
No, But clearly we have reported quarterly and we are
completely open and transparent and reporting every injury every yearth
and Asia every dog rehomed it. I think last year
we were the first race. You know, we re home
more dogs and we're brilliant. So we achieved a record
number of dogs that were being rehome last year at
six hundred and seventy three. So in many ways, the
(07:17):
industry has invested heavily in welfare and made that the
forefront of what we do. So that's what makes today's decision,
particularly getting the CEO.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Of Greyhound Racing end Z Edward Renelle joins us. So,
what is the attraction with grayhound racing outside of the
appeal of gambling. Why do people like it? Is there
more to just this than the tab.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Well, clearly the majority of there income comes from waydroan,
but many of our participants do love their dogs and
the way they look after them. And I think the
industry's commitment to rehome in highlights. You know, we're the
only racing cover where every animals it has a committed
life beyond racing, and we take that seriously.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Why do you like greyhound racing?
Speaker 7 (08:05):
What does it for you, Edward to be I think
it's the people, one of one of the care attractions.
It's like all racing, the people within it the heart
and soul of the industry. And yeah, and you know,
people get a great thrill from observing the animal, but
also it's a fun event.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I thought, Edward that Winston Peters was a supporter of
the industry. It seems like a bit of a more
not an elbow in the ribs, but a smack in
the face out of nowhere.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I think, to be fair, he's the minister has been
a great supporter of racing for a number of years.
So that's we're disappointed in today's decision and we look
forward to discussing it with them further. But yeah, it
certainly came this surprise from our perspective.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So you see there's a chance whether this could be
reversed or is this absolute curt Is he going to
fight this now? And how do you go about that?
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Well, clearly it will require a change to the racing
industry x so that'll have to go through a select
committee process. So we look forward to outlining our grounds
as to why we don't believe this should be supported.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I think there was some pretty bad press around greyhound
racing not so long ago with the proposed or the
drug use that was thrown toward the industry. I met
that would have been damaging that you're sure that that
wasn't the case. The dogs don't get exposed to this.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
So I think that that's what we need to clarify that.
I think the last myth positive we had was in
April twenty three and at the time the EURACI Integrity
that undertook that inquiry, it concluded that it was an
adverted administration, so it came from contamination off the hands
of the individual Gold So there was no evidence that
(09:55):
the dog had been directly administered method and mean it
was a contamination job. So I think when you boil,
take the emotion out of it and look at it
from a factual basis, the industry no different to any others.
We have people who break the rules and they are
dealt with family.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Edward Renow, Greyhound Raising and zed CEO A devastating day
for the industry and me. Thank you very much for
making yourself available.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Yeah, thanks very much. Darting beating a vex.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
We've got just the ticket. It's sports Vex.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
My news talks vy pressure much Wow, talk about pressure.
How much has been loaded on the shoulders of All
Black coach Scott Robertson. The schedule for twenty twenty five
has been released. Three home games against France and then
into a keenly anticipated series against the visiting spring Box
(10:50):
And what a way to start this off. The Freedom
Cups first game sixth of September twenty twenty five will
be at eden Park. Talk about pressure, it doesn't come
greater than this. The record that the All Blacks have
at Eden Park, I don't need to repeat this is
more than a fortress. This is a fortress with a
(11:14):
moat and a dragon in it. No one can come
close to the All Blacks on the hallowed turf, but
in the spring box, in the South Africans, we have
the best team in world rugby. There will be no
arguments with that statement. They are a phenomenon under coach
Rassi Erasmus. I'd suggest they are nion unbeatable. So for
(11:36):
ENDZR to risk the record at eden Park with the
first test of the series of the Freedom Cup, not
the second, but the first test, it says a we
have complete faith in Scott Robertson that after a limp
warm up playing the French he'll have enough to take
on the South Africans and defend that remarkable record. The
(11:59):
South Africans, of course, what a challenge for them to
beat the All Blacks at their spiritual home to start
off the Freedom Cup. Wow, what a challenge. And I've
got to be impressed by NZR for putting that challenge
down not only to the spring Box but to the
All Blacks and coach Scott Robertson. Fight for your tickets.
(12:20):
They will be Hen's teeth. They could probably double the
price and they'd still sell out Eden Park. This will
be a test match for the ages. Do what you can,
fight tooth and nail to get yourself there. Sixth of
September the Freedom Cup Test one up against South Africa,
the All Blacks defending the greatest home record in their history.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Time. Now for the Chamber, we are joined by News
Talkszreb sports journalists and podcast host when the Warriors are
floating around. His name is Nathan Nathan. Welcome on and
I trust you well and yeah, looking forward to the
next handful of minutes.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Oh yes, I mean we're into the exciting time of
the year, Darcy silly season.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
We're winding down.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Extremely silly season. It's a couple of weeks ago. Don't
don't focus on that yet, focus on the task at hand,
which is what the government have done. And then one
stroke of a pen, goodbye Greyhound Racing. That this popped
up and caught people by surprise that the public release
came out at the same time as the industry found
out about it. Talk about a slapping the chops before Christmas,
(13:32):
they'd say, this is a silly season.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Well, yeah, I mean it's a shock.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
I suppose they didn't think that greyhound racing would get
the chop altogether. But Winster Peters, you know, as you know,
this is the industry's been put on notice, you know,
over animal welfare for several years. And I think that
you know, if you've got three different inquiries over a
period of a decade that all come back and say
(13:57):
significant change is needed, then that's pretty talent.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well they claim that they have made that change and
they have advanced and it is a whole lot better,
but just not as much as what now. Winston Peters
is a big, big proponent of the industry, he really is.
I can't help but thinking there's something suspiciously political about this.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
What do you think is going on there?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Because to me, the other way of looking at it
is that if you've got someone who has been a
supporter of the industry and actually they've come forward and
said this needs to change, that would indicate that actually
something's really wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
And it does need change.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, you've got like three thousand dogs, you've got a
thousand people involved in the industry, and yeah, it's unpopular
amongst a segment of society, constant calls for it globally,
it's not really something that's done anymore. But I'd suggest
he's got some political points here because it's only affecting
a small amount of the community, a small amount of people.
(14:56):
So he's gone, look at me and Winston Peters, I've
made this decision. It's all over and it's an easy
point scoring from it. I mean that I don't know
this for sure, but you can't help but think that, right.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Well, maybe you're right and we can't really like I
can't like speculate on it because I don't know. But
the way you've laid it out there, I guess would
make sense politically. But remember New Zealand's only one of
five countries in the world that still practiced greyhound racing.
I think it is something that was being phased out anyway,
and maybe it was time for New Zealand to, I
(15:26):
guess get on board with this, and that's the direction
that's moving. I suppose with the you know, talking about
animal welfare and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So how many horses get euthanized than a year?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, this is another thing we want to look at. Right,
is it a similar percentile when it comes to the
bloodstock industry and the hound industry? Because if it is,
try shutting that down, Well, what ain't gonna happen, isn't it?
People always complaining about that.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Imagine that greyhound racing's always had the worst rep, hasn't it,
in comparison to horse racing.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Greyhound racing has always been under more.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
President, it has been a bit more sort of of
a dubious view about.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What made sure of the industry or for the deaths
of the dog.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Three reviews over a decade, all recommending significant change. Are
they moving in the right direction? They say they are,
but obviously not significantly enough.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I haven't got money either way on this. I've got
no skin at the game. Doesn't bother me either way,
But it does seem to be very handy for a
government that's having a great time pretty much knocking everything
on their head. So this makes sense to me for
them to do this, right.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Yeah, I just feel like it's sort of if we're
moving in that direction anyway to try and just put
it say, oh, the government's points scoring. It's like, well,
is that the only issue at play here? Would there
be grounds for it to be dismissed anyway?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I think animal wealthy is huge and there'll be so
much to the community. Go, yes, it's about time this happens,
only affecting a small amount of people. But I'm incredibly
suspicious of governmental decisions full stop, right.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Everything politicians Everything politicians was in some way for political game.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
That's just part of it.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They're politicians. That's what they do, right.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
Right, Unless this is outrageous for a huge majority of people,
I don't see I don't see a problem with it
from a broad political point of view.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Easy point scoring for them. Let's move on to the
other big subject. What do you think around this? A
four day Test cricket? But after the tyranny of bas
ball and the absolute trousering that we received at their
hands of the English and of course over the ditch,
are the Australians doing what they did up against the
Indians in a four days as well? Is it time
for us to shrink test cricket?
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You should see the look on this bloke's face.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I'm a traditionalist when it cuts, specially when it comes
to Test Creer. It took me a while to come
around to the idea of the players having their their
numbers and names on the back of their jerseys.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Chris, Yeah, I mean, yeah, look I don't like it.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
I mean the first Test when that we had in
India was settled on day five. That famous Test victory
of Inland by one run last year at the Base
in Reserve, which has been talked about so much during
this bias, was settled on day five. Well, recently biased
or not, I think some of the greatest Test cricket
victories and results ever occur on day five, so you've
(18:24):
got to weigh that up against Obviously, the argument that's
been made is the cost of hosting a day five,
the turnout, that sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
But if if those moments like.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Neil Wagner getting James Anderson caught behind on the fifth
day are what we remember most about Test cricket, then
they are in effect the greatest advertisement for the game
to get people involved when the next Test.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Bet If New Zealand have actuaid some spine with the
bat and I think after India. They went, ah done,
that's the year what blah blah fell apart. If that
hadn't have happened, we would have gone to a fifth day, right,
and I go over to Australia and India the pink
ball day night Test are silly anyway. I don't think
they'll representation, a true representation of Test cricket. They can
(19:11):
finish very short because of the nature of the swinging ball,
so I don't.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Yeah, I think you might be being a bit harsh
on the black Cat. I don't think they signed off
after the India series. There's a wheelchie championship on the
there is you were beaten by a bit of side.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, all right, badly beaten. You don't do what they
did that. I'm sorry it was that was hard. I'm
allowed to be angry. You're a fund there's a huge
amount of time. I'm sure they're not happy either.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
It was not good enough. But let's not say it's
because they just signed off and didn't want to be.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Twenty twenty four and we'll go what was twenty twenty
four in cricket, And we'll go the White Ferns won
the T twenty World Cup and New Zealand beat India
three nil in this series in their backyard. Everything else
we'll forget about the greatest year matter and on that
we'll let you get out back on with your walking
around the studio thinking cently two weeks ago.
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SAD B BHY. Hello there and welcome on into the
Sports Fixed podcast. My name is Darcy Waldergrave and on Tuesday,
the tenth of December twenty twenty four, this is your
bite sized chunk of all the sports news you need
to know about. Coming up in this podcast, Edward Ronelle
(00:40):
joins us shortly. Edward is the chief executive officer of
Greyhound Racing m z This is his initial reaction to
the news that was dropped that greyhound racing is over.
It's to be phased out over the next twenty months.
How does it affect him his industry will find out
more when Edward joins us next. I've got some opinion
(01:01):
on the magnificence of Eden Park and the risks of
having the South Africans turn up and play the first
test there of two sometime in early September. This is
a huge move from m ZR. Nathan joins us in
the chamber is the ZB Sports reporter and we'll be
talking about the big sports stories of the day. That's
(01:24):
our master plan. So let's get amongst right here, right
now on the fix.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
In other news, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Say we listen now to the big action in that
sport today, more bite sized chunks for you to digest.
Chief Executive of m z R Mark Robinson is underlining
New Zealand's commitment to Kiwi fans after the failed bid
to take a home test against France to the United
States next year. The French Rugby Federation rejected in Zida's
(01:55):
venture to move a July match against an understrength La
Blue outfit overseas four financial opportunities, citing player welfare.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But our long term strategy involves being able to connect
with fans the world and especially in emerging markets such
as Asia and North America. And as it relates to
North America is obviously that north star point sitting there
with the twenty thirty one Rugby World.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Cup, Australian fast bowler Josh Hazwood is confident he'll be
able to prove his fitness for the third Test in
India in Brisbane starting on Saturday. He's been put through
his paces after missing the Adelaide Test with a side strain.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Up kicked every box so far this week, besides obviously
being a trouble Samaria for me, you know in the past,
so you lean on the side of course and I
guess a little bit, but it's very minor compared to
the last few I've had.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Less risk, more reward. That's the view of former New
Zealand Test opener Brian Young on that specialist role as
the Black Cat prepared to adjust their top order for
the Third Test against England and Hamilton. Devin Conway will
miss the match due to the birth of his first child,
with Mark Chapman coming into the squad, and will Young
(03:04):
the batter likely to move to the top.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Of the order, down my shots into certain areas of
where I could play, and having the ability to leave
the ball that was foreign to me, and the power
of the leave for the opener when it's seeming or swinging.
That's as equally as effective as a cover drive.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
A vex.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Vex Now, News Talks.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We're joined it now by Grehound Racing New Zealand CEO
Edward Renew. Good day to you, Edward. Yeah, namelessness, what
an upsetting time for everybody in the industry. I suppose
my initial question must be must be what's your initial
reaction to the fact that greyhound racing has been stopped,
It's been seized, it no longer exists.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Clearly, Darcy, we're devastated by this decision. We believe that
the industry has made huge strides over the last two
years to enhance our animal welfare and to the point
where many ways we're leading the way from a race
industry point of view. So we're clearly gutted by it
and our hearts go out to the thy and fifty
four people that were estimated to derive a livelihood from
(04:17):
the employment through the industry.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The timing of the release you guys found out when
we found out thoughts around that.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Yeah cool, Yeah, that's you know, we have some concerns
there that we will have rested with the government, but
you know, we've been fully open and providing quarterly reports
with full information to outline all the progress that's been
made in key issues that we've been addressing. So we
would like to have more engagement with the government. We
(04:50):
suddainly will be looking to do that in coming months
as this decision goes through the Select Committee. Crisis.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So as far as what was happening with looking at
the industry has been going on for about a year now.
Do you think they were thorough enough when they came
to this decision that no, we can't do it more.
Does that present a good amount of work from the industry,
from the people investigating.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
From our perspective, I think we've been keen for a
decision to be made, so it was certainty for our
industry participants. So it's very hard for people to invest
in an industry when you've got the sort hanging over
your head. So SETNDY is something we have been advocating for.
But we believe that the industry has addressed the major
(05:38):
concerns that we're outlined in those previous reviews, the comments
around our injury account. Yes, we would like to have
it lower and we're continuing to look at all initiatives
to do it. But from a benchmark perspective, our injury
statistics are lower than Australia, and I look at youth
and Asia of dogs on race day from racing events
(05:59):
is lower than the youth and Asias and their equine cages.
So I think this is a dark day for racing,
the spotlight eventually will on the other cage, and I
don't think that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What was the turning point? Do you think there was
a tipping point in this when the industry was closed?
There's something particular about their investigation.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
I'm not certain. You know, if we looked at the
last reports that have been submitted by the Racy Integrity Board,
who are independent of this, they've been quite positive about
the progress we've been making. So I think that based
on the last few reports, I don't believe the grounds
support this and that it's clearly a political decision. But
(06:41):
you know, when we look forward to outlining why we
believe this decision isn't right.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Targets we offered targets to hit so they didn't close
the industry down Edward.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
No, But clearly we have reported quarterly and we are
completely open and transparent and reporting every injury every yearth
and Asia every dog rehomed it. I think last year
we were the first race. You know, we re home
more dogs and we're brilliant. So we achieved a record
number of dogs that were being rehome last year at
six hundred and seventy three. So in many ways, the
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industry has invested heavily in welfare and made that the
forefront of what we do. So that's what makes today's decision,
particularly getting the CEO.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Of Greyhound Racing end Z Edward Renelle joins us. So,
what is the attraction with grayhound racing outside of the
appeal of gambling. Why do people like it? Is there
more to just this than the tab.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Well, clearly the majority of there income comes from waydroan,
but many of our participants do love their dogs and
the way they look after them. And I think the
industry's commitment to rehome in highlights. You know, we're the
only racing cover where every animals it has a committed
life beyond racing, and we take that seriously.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Why do you like greyhound racing?
Speaker 7 (08:05):
What does it for you, Edward to be I think
it's the people, one of one of the care attractions.
It's like all racing, the people within it the heart
and soul of the industry. And yeah, and you know,
people get a great thrill from observing the animal, but
also it's a fun event.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I thought, Edward that Winston Peters was a supporter of
the industry. It seems like a bit of a more
not an elbow in the ribs, but a smack in
the face out of nowhere.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I think, to be fair, he's the minister has been
a great supporter of racing for a number of years.
So that's we're disappointed in today's decision and we look
forward to discussing it with them further. But yeah, it
certainly came this surprise from our perspective.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So you see there's a chance whether this could be
reversed or is this absolute curt Is he going to
fight this now? And how do you go about that?
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Well, clearly it will require a change to the racing
industry x so that'll have to go through a select
committee process. So we look forward to outlining our grounds
as to why we don't believe this should be supported.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I think there was some pretty bad press around greyhound
racing not so long ago with the proposed or the
drug use that was thrown toward the industry. I met
that would have been damaging that you're sure that that
wasn't the case. The dogs don't get exposed to this.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
So I think that that's what we need to clarify that.
I think the last myth positive we had was in
April twenty three and at the time the EURACI Integrity
that undertook that inquiry, it concluded that it was an
adverted administration, so it came from contamination off the hands
of the individual Gold So there was no evidence that
(09:55):
the dog had been directly administered method and mean it
was a contamination job. So I think when you boil,
take the emotion out of it and look at it
from a factual basis, the industry no different to any others.
We have people who break the rules and they are
dealt with family.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Edward Renow, Greyhound Raising and zed CEO A devastating day
for the industry and me. Thank you very much for
making yourself available.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Yeah, thanks very much. Darting beating a vex.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
We've got just the ticket. It's sports Vex.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
My news talks vy pressure much Wow, talk about pressure.
How much has been loaded on the shoulders of All
Black coach Scott Robertson. The schedule for twenty twenty five
has been released. Three home games against France and then
into a keenly anticipated series against the visiting spring Box
(10:50):
And what a way to start this off. The Freedom
Cups first game sixth of September twenty twenty five will
be at eden Park. Talk about pressure, it doesn't come
greater than this. The record that the All Blacks have
at Eden Park, I don't need to repeat this is
more than a fortress. This is a fortress with a
(11:14):
moat and a dragon in it. No one can come
close to the All Blacks on the hallowed turf, but
in the spring box, in the South Africans, we have
the best team in world rugby. There will be no
arguments with that statement. They are a phenomenon under coach
Rassi Erasmus. I'd suggest they are nion unbeatable. So for
(11:36):
ENDZR to risk the record at eden Park with the
first test of the series of the Freedom Cup, not
the second, but the first test, it says a we
have complete faith in Scott Robertson that after a limp
warm up playing the French he'll have enough to take
on the South Africans and defend that remarkable record. The
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South Africans, of course, what a challenge for them to
beat the All Blacks at their spiritual home to start
off the Freedom Cup. Wow, what a challenge. And I've
got to be impressed by NZR for putting that challenge
down not only to the spring Box but to the
All Blacks and coach Scott Robertson. Fight for your tickets.
(12:20):
They will be Hen's teeth. They could probably double the
price and they'd still sell out Eden Park. This will
be a test match for the ages. Do what you can,
fight tooth and nail to get yourself there. Sixth of
September the Freedom Cup Test one up against South Africa,
the All Blacks defending the greatest home record in their history.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Time. Now for the Chamber, we are joined by News
Talkszreb sports journalists and podcast host when the Warriors are
floating around. His name is Nathan Nathan. Welcome on and
I trust you well and yeah, looking forward to the
next handful of minutes.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Oh yes, I mean we're into the exciting time of
the year, Darcy silly season.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
We're winding down.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Extremely silly season. It's a couple of weeks ago. Don't
don't focus on that yet, focus on the task at hand,
which is what the government have done. And then one
stroke of a pen, goodbye Greyhound Racing. That this popped
up and caught people by surprise that the public release
came out at the same time as the industry found
out about it. Talk about a slapping the chops before Christmas,
(13:32):
they'd say, this is a silly season.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Well, yeah, I mean it's a shock.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
I suppose they didn't think that greyhound racing would get
the chop altogether. But Winster Peters, you know, as you know,
this is the industry's been put on notice, you know,
over animal welfare for several years. And I think that
you know, if you've got three different inquiries over a
period of a decade that all come back and say
(13:57):
significant change is needed, then that's pretty talent.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well they claim that they have made that change and
they have advanced and it is a whole lot better,
but just not as much as what now. Winston Peters
is a big, big proponent of the industry, he really is.
I can't help but thinking there's something suspiciously political about this.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
What do you think is going on there?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Because to me, the other way of looking at it
is that if you've got someone who has been a
supporter of the industry and actually they've come forward and
said this needs to change, that would indicate that actually
something's really wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
And it does need change.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, you've got like three thousand dogs, you've got a
thousand people involved in the industry, and yeah, it's unpopular
amongst a segment of society, constant calls for it globally,
it's not really something that's done anymore. But I'd suggest
he's got some political points here because it's only affecting
a small amount of the community, a small amount of people.
(14:56):
So he's gone, look at me and Winston Peters, I've
made this decision. It's all over and it's an easy
point scoring from it. I mean that I don't know
this for sure, but you can't help but think that, right.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Well, maybe you're right and we can't really like I
can't like speculate on it because I don't know. But
the way you've laid it out there, I guess would
make sense politically. But remember New Zealand's only one of
five countries in the world that still practiced greyhound racing.
I think it is something that was being phased out anyway,
and maybe it was time for New Zealand to, I
(15:26):
guess get on board with this, and that's the direction
that's moving. I suppose with the you know, talking about
animal welfare and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So how many horses get euthanized than a year?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, this is another thing we want to look at. Right,
is it a similar percentile when it comes to the
bloodstock industry and the hound industry? Because if it is,
try shutting that down, Well, what ain't gonna happen, isn't it?
People always complaining about that.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Imagine that greyhound racing's always had the worst rep, hasn't it,
in comparison to horse racing.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Greyhound racing has always been under more.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
President, it has been a bit more sort of of
a dubious view about.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What made sure of the industry or for the deaths
of the dog.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Three reviews over a decade, all recommending significant change. Are
they moving in the right direction? They say they are,
but obviously not significantly enough.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I haven't got money either way on this. I've got
no skin at the game. Doesn't bother me either way,
But it does seem to be very handy for a
government that's having a great time pretty much knocking everything
on their head. So this makes sense to me for
them to do this, right.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Yeah, I just feel like it's sort of if we're
moving in that direction anyway to try and just put
it say, oh, the government's points scoring. It's like, well,
is that the only issue at play here? Would there
be grounds for it to be dismissed anyway?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I think animal wealthy is huge and there'll be so
much to the community. Go, yes, it's about time this happens,
only affecting a small amount of people. But I'm incredibly
suspicious of governmental decisions full stop, right.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Everything politicians Everything politicians was in some way for political game.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
That's just part of it.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They're politicians. That's what they do, right.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
Right, Unless this is outrageous for a huge majority of people,
I don't see I don't see a problem with it
from a broad political point of view.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Easy point scoring for them. Let's move on to the
other big subject. What do you think around this? A
four day Test cricket? But after the tyranny of bas
ball and the absolute trousering that we received at their
hands of the English and of course over the ditch,
are the Australians doing what they did up against the
Indians in a four days as well? Is it time
for us to shrink test cricket?
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You should see the look on this bloke's face.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I'm a traditionalist when it cuts, specially when it comes
to Test Creer. It took me a while to come
around to the idea of the players having their their
numbers and names on the back of their jerseys.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Chris, Yeah, I mean, yeah, look I don't like it.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
I mean the first Test when that we had in
India was settled on day five. That famous Test victory
of Inland by one run last year at the Base
in Reserve, which has been talked about so much during
this bias, was settled on day five. Well, recently biased
or not, I think some of the greatest Test cricket
victories and results ever occur on day five, so you've
(18:24):
got to weigh that up against Obviously, the argument that's
been made is the cost of hosting a day five,
the turnout, that sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
But if if those moments like.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Neil Wagner getting James Anderson caught behind on the fifth
day are what we remember most about Test cricket, then
they are in effect the greatest advertisement for the game
to get people involved when the next Test.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Bet If New Zealand have actuaid some spine with the
bat and I think after India. They went, ah done,
that's the year what blah blah fell apart. If that
hadn't have happened, we would have gone to a fifth day, right,
and I go over to Australia and India the pink
ball day night Test are silly anyway. I don't think
they'll representation, a true representation of Test cricket. They can
(19:11):
finish very short because of the nature of the swinging ball,
so I don't.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Yeah, I think you might be being a bit harsh
on the black Cat. I don't think they signed off
after the India series. There's a wheelchie championship on the
there is you were beaten by a bit of side.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, all right, badly beaten. You don't do what they
did that. I'm sorry it was that was hard. I'm
allowed to be angry. You're a fund there's a huge
amount of time. I'm sure they're not happy either.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
It was not good enough. But let's not say it's
because they just signed off and didn't want to be.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Twenty twenty four and we'll go what was twenty twenty
four in cricket, And we'll go the White Ferns won
the T twenty World Cup and New Zealand beat India
three nil in this series in their backyard. Everything else
we'll forget about the greatest year matter and on that
we'll let you get out back on with your walking
around the studio thinking cently two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
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