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On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Wednesday 11 December 2024, former Black Caps coach Warren Lees talks about Gary Stead's future in the role, and whether his contract should be extended?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome on into sports Books. Great to have you on board, Mynamos,
Darcy Walder Grave and coming up on Wednesday, the eleventh
of December twenty twenty four, we have this in store.
Former Black Caps coach Wally Lees joins us to discuss
the future of Gary Stead. This test coming up on
Saturday in Hamilton will be his last test in charge.
(00:44):
What happens when the job comes up for grabs next year.
Wally gives his opinion on that and more. Talking of opinion,
I've got some on the groveling and sniffing around the
Saudi royal family. FIFA know exactly where their pockets are filled.
They're going to give the twenty thirty four World Cup
(01:05):
to Saudi Arabia. But there is somebody who sees no.
I'll talk about that surely, and Klay Wilson, b Sports
News director, joins us as we go to the chamber
and toss around some of the big sporting subjects of
the day. That's our plan, which we fully intend on
carrying out. So let's get amongst in other news. Let's
(01:29):
have a quick check and now with Sport Today, James
O'Connor admits he's paid no attention to the feedback good
or bad regarding his Super Rugby move to the Crusaders.
The former Wallaby playmaker joined the christ Church franchise on
a one year deal to help fill the sides void
at first five eighth. The Crusader's decision to sign an
(01:51):
overseas player at O'Connor's age came in for scrutiny from
fans and pundits.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's one thing I learned when I was younger, like
if you read the good stuff, you have to read
the bad stuff. You've got to balance it out. I'm
not gonna say don't good, because I do every now
and again, but I tend to avoid reading the press
because just create your Here you go.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
A South Island Stadium tussle looms for home All Blacks
matches beyond twenty twenty five. New Zealand RUGBYES revealed its
test schedule for next year. Dunedin will host the series
opener against France in July. Christ Jedge has missed out
but is widely expected to host Scott Robertson's side when
the new Central City Stadium opens in twenty twenty six.
(02:33):
Ends at our boss Mark Robinson's offered a diplomatic response
when asked if christ Church and Dunedin could get a
test in the same year on Stakaha is up and running.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We haven't really turned our mind to the exact detail
of where games in each of those years might go,
but will certainly be really open to all venues across
New Zealanders to what they can offer.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Liverpool's opened up a tentive five point lead at the
top of Football's Champions League ladder after a one nil
win at Drona and there we are. Liverpool remained top
off the UAPHAH Champions League phase with one hundred percent
record six wins from.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Six, leading of VIX. We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's sports VIX news talk. That's a very good day
to forman Zellen coach. Warren Lee's good day.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Warren Afternoon from Queenstown. Sunny Queenstound, full of tourists, lovely place.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The interesting times for New Zealand cricket boys, is isn't
it quite? Frankly, Gary Steed is going to oversee what
could be his last Test match this weekend and then
I'm presuming sometime in June the job is up for grabs.
Does Gary Steed deserve to carry on in that role?
Do you think that he's held for so long.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I definitely think he deserves to have the opportunity to reapply.
If he's interested, he should put his name forward. You
don't open up the field for other people until you
find whether the incumbent is interested or not. Did I
I actually think that over the time Gary's been involved,
he's developed confidence that he possibly didn't have it starts.
(04:09):
His team has served him well. We haven't had the
ruptions within the playing members as much as has happened
in the past, and I think his record really stands up.
I think when look back, he's possibly still a rather
conservative coach, which is fine, and even a more conservative selector.
But but that's the that's the character that Gary is.
(04:33):
He played cricket the same way, so I certainly you
put the name in the hat if he if he's interested.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So the idea of giving him the job, if he
wants it or not, doesn't sit comfortably with you, and
nor should it quite frankly, no.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I think I think it goes on the open market,
not making the decisions. I can't guarantee anyone else that
he's given criggles and will see it my way, but
I think it's good to have competition for these things.
When the job comes up for grabs, however, there will
be people with more knowledge than me, who will have
more of a background of exactly what's going on within
(05:08):
a dressing boom and at the practice sessions and over
the selection and over the non selection in particular of
certain players who had one hundred percent support of every
other sports watcher in the country at times. So Gary
hasn't always done what was expected, but I think over
(05:28):
the time he's possibly found it harder to drop players
than to select new players. And if that's a criticism,
well I'm sorry. That's the way that is.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Isn't that worked? For a degree though Warren, to his favor,
very difficult to get into the Black Caps, also very
difficult to be dropped. So you have a sense of
trust from people around you, and you're not batting from
innings to innings thinking this could be my last turn back.
Surely that that generates confidence but in this case has
(05:58):
gone too far you saying well.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I know, I just said, Well, what I mean is
I think loyalty is a fantastic word than team sport,
and I think that that goes past the players into
the support crew as well. So you've got selectors, you've
got coaches, you've got other people around the team who
are helping out, and it's good to have loyalty within
that group, but you've also got to be prepared to say, well,
(06:22):
hold on winners long enough, too long, And it also
doesn't give an equal opportunity for younger players coming through
at all times. I'm not saying you just change the
team hole as bold as every time some of our
three failures are over there out, because you've got to
look more deeply than that, and I think Gary has
(06:43):
been quite good at that, except there have been times
where you think, gee, we've used an awful lot of
medium paste bowlders over a three year period, but reaterally
some have got injured. But some of these players have
gone away on some of these tours, probably four or
five tours have only had two or three games in total,
so you sort of wonder about that at times. But
of course Gary's not the only selector.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's not military medium pace. That was the term where
in your day, wasn't it, Warren? It's not unusual.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
No, it's certainly not, certainly not unusual. I think we
didn't have a choice. We really only had military medium pace,
and I think that was one of the problems. Mind you.
We we obviously prepared pictures to suit, which is something
we've complained about in different countries and we seem to
ignore when it comes to our own country. But now
(07:32):
I think, look overall, I think if Gary is interested,
he must put his name forward, if only to open
up the field, to actually let people compare and to
have the committee who choose the next New Zealand Credit coach,
we let them actually sit down with all those people
who candidates who put their name forward and look at
(07:54):
the history of each player, of each person.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You obviously aren't making the decision. Are you rather be
in Queenstown? I completely understand that. But when you do
peck or retain a coach, what predominantly did the select
is or the board rely on? Do they look at results?
Do they look at team culture? Do they look at turnover?
Do they look at ruckets? Within their camp. How do
(08:17):
they weigh this up in general? Do you think war
leads from your experience?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Oh, I think I think it's improved. I think it's
hugely improved over the last eighteen fifteen years. And our
players have sought their careers elsewhere where there's possibly more money,
more financial return, and therefore I think things have changed
quite a bit. I also think that it's pretty important
for all of those aspects that you talk about to
(08:44):
be considered very very carefully, and a coach himself when
he comes into the child you'll find that most coaches
are completely different people after their first tour out of
the country, after their first season, after their first major
problems with selection, be it through injury or that, to form,
and how they how they feel, how they deal with
(09:05):
the public, have they deal with the media goes it's
pretty important now which possibly weren't taken into account in
the past. And I think you're round person who spells
loyal with our capital L I think is someone who's
pretty important.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Which leads us nicely to how key is success in
the final Test match, the final home test match of
the season. And Tim Salvey there's a senior player and
been bowling at his best. I kin'd of feel they
have to. Is that part of what you're talking about,
that he should acquiesce to the wants of everyone to
give him a farewell or do they wagner him well.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I do actually believe that the word success in the
last Test, which wouldn't be discussing too much. I doubt
that it's going to happen. Seriously. I think we're playing
against a very very confident, a very aggressive English team
who knows they've got the New Zealand team on the
roads and they'll be determined under McCollum to keep them there. However,
I also think with the Sauvie situation, well, I have
(10:09):
given him this quite a lot of thoughts. It's fine
to say to someone well played, you've had a wonderful
career and you can have the last Test match at
home that was a month ago. They decided that what
about that young fella who's done really well in first
class cricket and is due to have his first given
Test and the excitement in his family and his grandmother,
of people down the street and people who support the
(10:31):
young fellow no matter who he plays for, and he
misses out because an old player is given an extra game,
and I know, I don't know that that's exactly the
way it is. That it just doesn't sit well with me.
I think Tess cricket is very very important, and tis
cricket is the final nail that everyone wants on. They
(10:52):
want to play kiss cricket. And to take a game
away from someone who's young and on their way up,
to give it to someone because he's given good service
does not sit well with very many people.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And finally, Warren Lee's woman and he's doing cricket. Coach,
would you pick South for this last test?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
No, I'm sorry, I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't. And
I know the loyaltys is home all those things, but
I don't know if you actually sat down blindly with
all these with all these fingers in front of you,
and all these players who could play, and you pick
the very best eleven players to go on the path
given them where we play spin or not, those things
(11:30):
come into it. I don't think you'd make the team.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And on that we'll let you get back to swarmming
around Queenstown with all of the tourists sucking up the rays.
Thank you very much, as always, mister Lee's always appreciate
your time any.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Time We've got just the ticket. It's sports X.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
At least the Norwegian Football Federation has some sense of
right or wrong, maybe even a heart, maybe a soul,
maybe even a conscience, maybe even some morals. What am
I talking about? Well, they've been the most vocal critic
over the decision to take the World Cup to Saudi
Arabia and Qatar. That is going to be announced tomorrow
(12:15):
and nobody is going to argue the NFF though they're
not happy, and I quote the bidding process for twenty
thirty four has gone against principles of accountability, transparency and objectivity.
Norwegian Football's president Lease Cleverness goes on to say the
(12:35):
lack of predictability and open processes challenges trust in FIFA
as the global custodian of football. FIFA's own guidelines for
human rights and due diligence have also not been adequately
integrated into the process, increasing the risk of human rights violations.
(12:55):
We have consistently advocated for FIFA to strengthen itself as
a rules based and predictable steward of international football. We
must remain consistent in this manner, Saudi Arabia is going
to get it. We all know that they're going to
get it. We all know that it's all about filthy
(13:16):
Luca and money doesn't talk. It screams and shouts and yells.
Everybody else All of the other major sporting organizations have
collapsed to their knees in the face of the oil
rich kingdom. They'll do anything to get their hands on
the cast. They'll do anything to curry favor with Saudi Arabia.
(13:37):
It started years ago. Everybody is falling into line, and
it's sad. Any form of moral strength disappears when money
is involved, and dollars to donuts. All of the competing
nations at the twenty thirty four feef at World Cup
will stand as one and say, what a tremendous tournament,
(13:59):
what an amazing organization, How good was this and walk
away from the big issue here, which is the human
rights in Saudi Arabia. They've been bought out. We know
how it operates now, and I suppose we just accept it,
except for Norway, who are standing there saying not on
our watch, and for that I commend them.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Let's swing the doors open of the chamber were joined
now by Clay Wilson. He'd be Sports news director Gary Stead.
We've heard from Warren Lees talking about should he reapply?
Should the job be thrown open so everybody can apply
for this role. Not saying he's not doing a good job,
(14:47):
but where does he sit? Do you think Gary stick?
Because this is the last test of the home season,
which is a crime in itself. As far as Stead's future.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Clay, Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it. Because I
look at someone like Gary Stead who's been had a
lot of success in this role, particularly you know. I mean,
obviously we had the series in India, but prior to
that the team had been in a little bit more
of a lean patch. But before that the team had
quite a lot of success under under Gary Stead. So
(15:15):
he's certainly been a good coach of this team. But
for me, I think about it more in terms of
the time he's been with the team and perhaps now
with some of the results the team's having.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So he's got a shelf life.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
You're saying, well, I think maybe it's a fresh idea
is kind of angle I think I would be coming
from in terms of, you know, the team, is it
now the time with the team kind of regenerating and
you know, not having the results they once used to
to look at a different person.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But reguards changing definitely, isn't it. We've lost so many
of the World Test Championship blokes. We've got SALVII young
now as well. I don't know how long Williams is
going to last.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
For, but it is a new error and if the
guard's changing somewhat with the players is now that is
that perhaps the right time to do the same thing
with the coach. And like I said, Gary Stead has
always been great to deal with and he's had plenty
of success with this team. So it's not certainly on
a case of sort of booting someone out just because
they've they've been rubbish. He has been he has been good.
But then on the other side of the coin, you
(16:10):
have to look at who's around yeah to come in
right And I look at this the same thing. I've
been having this ongoing debate in the office with one
of our colleagues about the Tom Blundell saga. And you know,
someone who's struggling, but then who comes in to replace him?
And I look at the Gary Steed situation in the
same way. Look around. If Gary Steed is not going
to continue, or you're not going to at least offer
(16:31):
him a contract to continue, who are you then going to?
Who are the who's available in the market and who
can use Eland cricket?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is it likely to be a situation like you've seen
with the All Blacks light we've seen with New Zealand cricket,
where next cab off the rink? I Luke Ronkey might
be the guy to go for because there's that consistency.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Is Luke Ronky the man for the job?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's what I would ask you?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Then?
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Is you know, is he is he ready for that position?
Is he someone who's who's sort of qualified and people
are going to look at and say, you know he's look.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
At his history. Has he got a successful head coach background?
I don't think he has as he so could he
be trusted to take over the reins? If you think
about the consistency of selection, it makes sense because the
players will know him former player that are But results wise,
do you lean somewhere else? Do you go overseas? Do
(17:23):
you throw it open to what Steve Rexon was the
last non Kiwi to take the job. Would that be acceptable? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I think I think you could. I mean, I think
especially with the landscape of cricket at the moment, and
you look at the great x Kiwi players that are
now that have now moved into coaching successfully. We've got
one here right now, and Brenda McCallum that you have
to perhaps look outside of the norm, outside of your
domestic system, that kind of thing. And I look at
(17:49):
the domestic scene, no names really jump out as someone
who's who's ready. Luke Gronky, could he be one day
He's been in that system for a long time. Yes, maybe,
But to me now, like you say, not a lot
of head coaching experience the names I think about Fleming
for Tory McCullum, these kind of all ex black Cat
captains have clearly gone on to be very successful coaches.
(18:11):
The question is are they going to come and can
we afford them?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Can we afford them? That is a key one. So
I suppose side of all of this it's got to
be contestable, doesn't it. They can't just scade you want
the job or not and give it to him and
even if they get him, he gets it back again
at least contestable. And that's maybe when you start attracting
and these other players, and I'm just hoping their budget's
big enough to maybe real one of those guys, and
(18:35):
you feel.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Like that's maybe where it'll end up. They'll say, you
know that we that we're interested in Gary Steed continuing,
but we want him to make his case, and like
you say, you want him to to sort of prove
that he's.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The right guy going forward. And who knows.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
We don't know what Gary Steed is going to do.
He hasn't really made it that clear about whether he
wants to continue or not, and of course that's a
major factor. If he doesn't want to go on, then
he's not going to be a candid at at all,
is he. So I'm going to be interesting to see
how that one washes out.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, based on England, no he shouldn't. But based on India,
he can coach the job to the end of his life.
Quite frankly, with what he did there, It'll always me
for that. Hey, let's go on to a bit of
mixed martial arts. Carlos Alberg. He's a guy who's been
on the up and up for quite some time now
he's getting older, what mid early thirties, it's been around,
(19:21):
but that's okay. He can just look that old. No
he doesn't. He can still fight and he's taking on
a former champ. The Black Jag is his name. It's
Carlos Alberg and the form of Blahovich, who is quite
the fight from faird. He beat up on Israel and
Sonya a few years ago.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
That's how people will know Yanblohovich is he was the
first man to beat Israel a to Sonya in MMA
in the UFC. Of course, that was Israel stepping up
a weight division to light heavyweight, which is.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's basically just sat on him. Just a big guy.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
But this is a guy with a lot of pedigree,
is still a big name in the UFC in this division,
and this I really guess what it just does, doesn't
it? It just marks Carlos Alberg's continued rise up the picking order.
What is it seven fights in a row, seven wins
in a row now, something of that kind of figure.
So yeah, I mean when I saw it this morning,
(20:18):
that's a great name. If you get a win like that,
then absolutely you're you're you're within rights to be calling
for a title shot, and the thing with the light
heavyweight division they have with no kind of McGregor around
for the thankfully foreseeable future. The biggest name in mixed
martial arts at the moment, which is Alex Baeda, who,
(20:38):
because Israel had to say, has had a great history
with So you know, win this fight, you're right in
the mix for that and you know you're on the
verge of being the next the next title holder out
of the City kickboxing gym.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And he's so marketable as well, because he's really well spoken,
he's smart, he can fight, he's easy on the eye,
I'm told by some female friends of mine, so I'm not.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Afraid to him.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And he's a good looking you can because I think
I'm the only good looking man on the planet. No,
he's it's really marketable. But the main thing is is
can he fight? And it looks like he can, so
I think, yeah, the next big thing, absolutely, And I'll
tell you what. He's been around long time now he's
done the mark.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah, he sees time does run well, hasn't he, So
it'd be great to see how he goes.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Hey, thanks for joining us. Klay Wilson News Talks AB
Sports director go well, catch you soon thanks to us.
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Welcome on into sports Books. Great to have you on board, Mynamos,
Darcy Walder Grave and coming up on Wednesday, the eleventh
of December twenty twenty four, we have this in store.
Former Black Caps coach Wally Lees joins us to discuss
the future of Gary Stead. This test coming up on
Saturday in Hamilton will be his last test in charge.
(00:44):
What happens when the job comes up for grabs next year.
Wally gives his opinion on that and more. Talking of opinion,
I've got some on the groveling and sniffing around the
Saudi royal family. FIFA know exactly where their pockets are filled.
They're going to give the twenty thirty four World Cup
(01:05):
to Saudi Arabia. But there is somebody who sees no.
I'll talk about that surely, and Klay Wilson, b Sports
News director, joins us as we go to the chamber
and toss around some of the big sporting subjects of
the day. That's our plan, which we fully intend on
carrying out. So let's get amongst in other news. Let's
(01:29):
have a quick check and now with Sport Today, James
O'Connor admits he's paid no attention to the feedback good
or bad regarding his Super Rugby move to the Crusaders.
The former Wallaby playmaker joined the christ Church franchise on
a one year deal to help fill the sides void
at first five eighth. The Crusader's decision to sign an
(01:51):
overseas player at O'Connor's age came in for scrutiny from
fans and pundits.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's one thing I learned when I was younger, like
if you read the good stuff, you have to read
the bad stuff. You've got to balance it out. I'm
not gonna say don't good, because I do every now
and again, but I tend to avoid reading the press
because just create your Here you go.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
A South Island Stadium tussle looms for home All Blacks
matches beyond twenty twenty five. New Zealand RUGBYES revealed its
test schedule for next year. Dunedin will host the series
opener against France in July. Christ Jedge has missed out
but is widely expected to host Scott Robertson's side when
the new Central City Stadium opens in twenty twenty six.
(02:33):
Ends at our boss Mark Robinson's offered a diplomatic response
when asked if christ Church and Dunedin could get a
test in the same year on Stakaha is up and running.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We haven't really turned our mind to the exact detail
of where games in each of those years might go,
but will certainly be really open to all venues across
New Zealanders to what they can offer.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Liverpool's opened up a tentive five point lead at the
top of Football's Champions League ladder after a one nil
win at Drona and there we are. Liverpool remained top
off the UAPHAH Champions League phase with one hundred percent
record six wins from.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Six, leading of VIX. We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's sports VIX news talk. That's a very good day
to forman Zellen coach. Warren Lee's good day.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Warren Afternoon from Queenstown. Sunny Queenstound, full of tourists, lovely place.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The interesting times for New Zealand cricket boys, is isn't
it quite? Frankly, Gary Steed is going to oversee what
could be his last Test match this weekend and then
I'm presuming sometime in June the job is up for grabs.
Does Gary Steed deserve to carry on in that role?
Do you think that he's held for so long.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I definitely think he deserves to have the opportunity to reapply.
If he's interested, he should put his name forward. You
don't open up the field for other people until you
find whether the incumbent is interested or not. Did I
I actually think that over the time Gary's been involved,
he's developed confidence that he possibly didn't have it starts.
(04:09):
His team has served him well. We haven't had the
ruptions within the playing members as much as has happened
in the past, and I think his record really stands up.
I think when look back, he's possibly still a rather
conservative coach, which is fine, and even a more conservative selector.
But but that's the that's the character that Gary is.
(04:33):
He played cricket the same way, so I certainly you
put the name in the hat if he if he's interested.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So the idea of giving him the job, if he
wants it or not, doesn't sit comfortably with you, and
nor should it quite frankly, no.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I think I think it goes on the open market,
not making the decisions. I can't guarantee anyone else that
he's given criggles and will see it my way, but
I think it's good to have competition for these things.
When the job comes up for grabs, however, there will
be people with more knowledge than me, who will have
more of a background of exactly what's going on within
(05:08):
a dressing boom and at the practice sessions and over
the selection and over the non selection in particular of
certain players who had one hundred percent support of every
other sports watcher in the country at times. So Gary
hasn't always done what was expected, but I think over
(05:28):
the time he's possibly found it harder to drop players
than to select new players. And if that's a criticism,
well I'm sorry. That's the way that is.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Isn't that worked? For a degree though Warren, to his favor,
very difficult to get into the Black Caps, also very
difficult to be dropped. So you have a sense of
trust from people around you, and you're not batting from
innings to innings thinking this could be my last turn back.
Surely that that generates confidence but in this case has
(05:58):
gone too far you saying well.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I know, I just said, Well, what I mean is
I think loyalty is a fantastic word than team sport,
and I think that that goes past the players into
the support crew as well. So you've got selectors, you've
got coaches, you've got other people around the team who
are helping out, and it's good to have loyalty within
that group, but you've also got to be prepared to say, well,
(06:22):
hold on winners long enough, too long, And it also
doesn't give an equal opportunity for younger players coming through
at all times. I'm not saying you just change the
team hole as bold as every time some of our
three failures are over there out, because you've got to
look more deeply than that, and I think Gary has
(06:43):
been quite good at that, except there have been times
where you think, gee, we've used an awful lot of
medium paste bowlders over a three year period, but reaterally
some have got injured. But some of these players have
gone away on some of these tours, probably four or
five tours have only had two or three games in total,
so you sort of wonder about that at times. But
of course Gary's not the only selector.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's not military medium pace. That was the term where
in your day, wasn't it, Warren? It's not unusual.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
No, it's certainly not, certainly not unusual. I think we
didn't have a choice. We really only had military medium pace,
and I think that was one of the problems. Mind you.
We we obviously prepared pictures to suit, which is something
we've complained about in different countries and we seem to
ignore when it comes to our own country. But now
(07:32):
I think, look overall, I think if Gary is interested,
he must put his name forward, if only to open
up the field, to actually let people compare and to
have the committee who choose the next New Zealand Credit coach,
we let them actually sit down with all those people
who candidates who put their name forward and look at
(07:54):
the history of each player, of each person.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You obviously aren't making the decision. Are you rather be
in Queenstown? I completely understand that. But when you do
peck or retain a coach, what predominantly did the select
is or the board rely on? Do they look at results?
Do they look at team culture? Do they look at turnover?
Do they look at ruckets? Within their camp. How do
(08:17):
they weigh this up in general? Do you think war
leads from your experience?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Oh, I think I think it's improved. I think it's
hugely improved over the last eighteen fifteen years. And our
players have sought their careers elsewhere where there's possibly more money,
more financial return, and therefore I think things have changed
quite a bit. I also think that it's pretty important
for all of those aspects that you talk about to
(08:44):
be considered very very carefully, and a coach himself when
he comes into the child you'll find that most coaches
are completely different people after their first tour out of
the country, after their first season, after their first major
problems with selection, be it through injury or that, to form,
and how they how they feel, how they deal with
(09:05):
the public, have they deal with the media goes it's
pretty important now which possibly weren't taken into account in
the past. And I think you're round person who spells
loyal with our capital L I think is someone who's
pretty important.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Which leads us nicely to how key is success in
the final Test match, the final home test match of
the season. And Tim Salvey there's a senior player and
been bowling at his best. I kin'd of feel they
have to. Is that part of what you're talking about,
that he should acquiesce to the wants of everyone to
give him a farewell or do they wagner him well.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I do actually believe that the word success in the
last Test, which wouldn't be discussing too much. I doubt
that it's going to happen. Seriously. I think we're playing
against a very very confident, a very aggressive English team
who knows they've got the New Zealand team on the
roads and they'll be determined under McCollum to keep them there. However,
I also think with the Sauvie situation, well, I have
(10:09):
given him this quite a lot of thoughts. It's fine
to say to someone well played, you've had a wonderful
career and you can have the last Test match at
home that was a month ago. They decided that what
about that young fella who's done really well in first
class cricket and is due to have his first given
Test and the excitement in his family and his grandmother,
of people down the street and people who support the
(10:31):
young fellow no matter who he plays for, and he
misses out because an old player is given an extra game,
and I know, I don't know that that's exactly the
way it is. That it just doesn't sit well with me.
I think Tess cricket is very very important, and tis
cricket is the final nail that everyone wants on. They
(10:52):
want to play kiss cricket. And to take a game
away from someone who's young and on their way up,
to give it to someone because he's given good service
does not sit well with very many people.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And finally, Warren Lee's woman and he's doing cricket. Coach,
would you pick South for this last test?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
No, I'm sorry, I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't. And
I know the loyaltys is home all those things, but
I don't know if you actually sat down blindly with
all these with all these fingers in front of you,
and all these players who could play, and you pick
the very best eleven players to go on the path
given them where we play spin or not, those things
(11:30):
come into it. I don't think you'd make the team.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And on that we'll let you get back to swarmming
around Queenstown with all of the tourists sucking up the rays.
Thank you very much, as always, mister Lee's always appreciate
your time any.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Time We've got just the ticket. It's sports X.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
At least the Norwegian Football Federation has some sense of
right or wrong, maybe even a heart, maybe a soul,
maybe even a conscience, maybe even some morals. What am
I talking about? Well, they've been the most vocal critic
over the decision to take the World Cup to Saudi
Arabia and Qatar. That is going to be announced tomorrow
(12:15):
and nobody is going to argue the NFF though they're
not happy, and I quote the bidding process for twenty
thirty four has gone against principles of accountability, transparency and objectivity.
Norwegian Football's president Lease Cleverness goes on to say the
(12:35):
lack of predictability and open processes challenges trust in FIFA
as the global custodian of football. FIFA's own guidelines for
human rights and due diligence have also not been adequately
integrated into the process, increasing the risk of human rights violations.
(12:55):
We have consistently advocated for FIFA to strengthen itself as
a rules based and predictable steward of international football. We
must remain consistent in this manner, Saudi Arabia is going
to get it. We all know that they're going to
get it. We all know that it's all about filthy
(13:16):
Luca and money doesn't talk. It screams and shouts and yells.
Everybody else All of the other major sporting organizations have
collapsed to their knees in the face of the oil
rich kingdom. They'll do anything to get their hands on
the cast. They'll do anything to curry favor with Saudi Arabia.
(13:37):
It started years ago. Everybody is falling into line, and
it's sad. Any form of moral strength disappears when money
is involved, and dollars to donuts. All of the competing
nations at the twenty thirty four feef at World Cup
will stand as one and say, what a tremendous tournament,
(13:59):
what an amazing organization, How good was this and walk
away from the big issue here, which is the human
rights in Saudi Arabia. They've been bought out. We know
how it operates now, and I suppose we just accept it,
except for Norway, who are standing there saying not on
our watch, and for that I commend them.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Let's swing the doors open of the chamber were joined
now by Clay Wilson. He'd be Sports news director Gary Stead.
We've heard from Warren Lees talking about should he reapply?
Should the job be thrown open so everybody can apply
for this role. Not saying he's not doing a good job,
(14:47):
but where does he sit? Do you think Gary stick?
Because this is the last test of the home season,
which is a crime in itself. As far as Stead's future.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Clay, Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it. Because I
look at someone like Gary Stead who's been had a
lot of success in this role, particularly you know. I mean,
obviously we had the series in India, but prior to
that the team had been in a little bit more
of a lean patch. But before that the team had
quite a lot of success under under Gary Stead. So
(15:15):
he's certainly been a good coach of this team. But
for me, I think about it more in terms of
the time he's been with the team and perhaps now
with some of the results the team's having.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So he's got a shelf life.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
You're saying, well, I think maybe it's a fresh idea
is kind of angle I think I would be coming
from in terms of, you know, the team, is it
now the time with the team kind of regenerating and
you know, not having the results they once used to
to look at a different person.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But reguards changing definitely, isn't it. We've lost so many
of the World Test Championship blokes. We've got SALVII young
now as well. I don't know how long Williams is
going to last.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
For, but it is a new error and if the
guard's changing somewhat with the players is now that is
that perhaps the right time to do the same thing
with the coach. And like I said, Gary Stead has
always been great to deal with and he's had plenty
of success with this team. So it's not certainly on
a case of sort of booting someone out just because
they've they've been rubbish. He has been he has been good.
But then on the other side of the coin, you
(16:10):
have to look at who's around yeah to come in
right And I look at this the same thing. I've
been having this ongoing debate in the office with one
of our colleagues about the Tom Blundell saga. And you know,
someone who's struggling, but then who comes in to replace him?
And I look at the Gary Steed situation in the
same way. Look around. If Gary Steed is not going
to continue, or you're not going to at least offer
(16:31):
him a contract to continue, who are you then going to?
Who are the who's available in the market and who
can use Eland cricket?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is it likely to be a situation like you've seen
with the All Blacks light we've seen with New Zealand cricket,
where next cab off the rink? I Luke Ronkey might
be the guy to go for because there's that consistency.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Is Luke Ronky the man for the job?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's what I would ask you?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Then?
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Is you know, is he is he ready for that position?
Is he someone who's who's sort of qualified and people
are going to look at and say, you know he's look.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
At his history. Has he got a successful head coach background?
I don't think he has as he so could he
be trusted to take over the reins? If you think
about the consistency of selection, it makes sense because the
players will know him former player that are But results wise,
do you lean somewhere else? Do you go overseas? Do
(17:23):
you throw it open to what Steve Rexon was the
last non Kiwi to take the job. Would that be acceptable? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I think I think you could. I mean, I think
especially with the landscape of cricket at the moment, and
you look at the great x Kiwi players that are
now that have now moved into coaching successfully. We've got
one here right now, and Brenda McCallum that you have
to perhaps look outside of the norm, outside of your
domestic system, that kind of thing. And I look at
(17:49):
the domestic scene, no names really jump out as someone
who's who's ready. Luke Gronky, could he be one day
He's been in that system for a long time. Yes, maybe,
But to me now, like you say, not a lot
of head coaching experience the names I think about Fleming
for Tory McCullum, these kind of all ex black Cat
captains have clearly gone on to be very successful coaches.
(18:11):
The question is are they going to come and can
we afford them?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Can we afford them? That is a key one. So
I suppose side of all of this it's got to
be contestable, doesn't it. They can't just scade you want
the job or not and give it to him and
even if they get him, he gets it back again
at least contestable. And that's maybe when you start attracting
and these other players, and I'm just hoping their budget's
big enough to maybe real one of those guys, and
(18:35):
you feel.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Like that's maybe where it'll end up. They'll say, you
know that we that we're interested in Gary Steed continuing,
but we want him to make his case, and like
you say, you want him to to sort of prove
that he's.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The right guy going forward. And who knows.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
We don't know what Gary Steed is going to do.
He hasn't really made it that clear about whether he
wants to continue or not, and of course that's a
major factor. If he doesn't want to go on, then
he's not going to be a candid at at all,
is he. So I'm going to be interesting to see
how that one washes out.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, based on England, no he shouldn't. But based on India,
he can coach the job to the end of his life.
Quite frankly, with what he did there, It'll always me
for that. Hey, let's go on to a bit of
mixed martial arts. Carlos Alberg. He's a guy who's been
on the up and up for quite some time now
he's getting older, what mid early thirties, it's been around,
(19:21):
but that's okay. He can just look that old. No
he doesn't. He can still fight and he's taking on
a former champ. The Black Jag is his name. It's
Carlos Alberg and the form of Blahovich, who is quite
the fight from faird. He beat up on Israel and
Sonya a few years ago.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
That's how people will know Yanblohovich is he was the
first man to beat Israel a to Sonya in MMA
in the UFC. Of course, that was Israel stepping up
a weight division to light heavyweight, which is.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's basically just sat on him. Just a big guy.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
But this is a guy with a lot of pedigree,
is still a big name in the UFC in this division,
and this I really guess what it just does, doesn't
it? It just marks Carlos Alberg's continued rise up the picking order.
What is it seven fights in a row, seven wins
in a row now, something of that kind of figure.
So yeah, I mean when I saw it this morning,
(20:18):
that's a great name. If you get a win like that,
then absolutely you're you're you're within rights to be calling
for a title shot, and the thing with the light
heavyweight division they have with no kind of McGregor around
for the thankfully foreseeable future. The biggest name in mixed
martial arts at the moment, which is Alex Baeda, who,
(20:38):
because Israel had to say, has had a great history
with So you know, win this fight, you're right in
the mix for that and you know you're on the
verge of being the next the next title holder out
of the City kickboxing gym.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And he's so marketable as well, because he's really well spoken,
he's smart, he can fight, he's easy on the eye,
I'm told by some female friends of mine, so I'm not.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Afraid to him.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And he's a good looking you can because I think
I'm the only good looking man on the planet. No,
he's it's really marketable. But the main thing is is
can he fight? And it looks like he can, so
I think, yeah, the next big thing, absolutely, And I'll
tell you what. He's been around long time now he's
done the mark.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah, he sees time does run well, hasn't he, So
it'd be great to see how he goes.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
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Speaker 1 (21:27):
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Speaker 2 (21:34):
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