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Hi there and welcome into sports Fix, your daily sporting
podcast for Thursday, December nineteen. As we rush headlong towards Christmas,
I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah, weekdaily until Friday, Ie tomorrow, and then we're gone
for the best part of three weeks. Happy days, Jay,
Happy days.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, I'm sure the listeners will be delighted to have
a break from us as they celebrate their festive season,
but we charge towards the finish line as we want
to do as as sporting broadcasters. You've got a recently
upgraded cricketer as a guest today.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
And old mate Chalky I say that I've been dealing
with Mitchell Santa for quite some time now.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
He's a very affable character. He's got a very.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You've got a dark scends, very funny man and he's
now been given the rein so you will yarn to
him about his elevation to the captaincy role in the
White Bull formats of the blake Caps.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Looking forward to hearing from Mitchell Center, our New T
twenty and Odi Captain. I know you've got some thoughts
on Sergio pires Liam Lawson, Yuki Sonoda etc.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And Red Ball.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I've got a couple of questions for you about that
as well. And we'll talk about Christmas Day sport in
the chamber as well.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So lots to get through.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
In other news, let's.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Get underway with some of the big sports stories floating
around today. Red Bull boss Christian Horner has declared the
race is still on between Liam Lawson and Yuki Sonoda
to replace Sergio Pirez in their top Formula One team.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
We have all of the information that we need. Essentially
it'll be a choice between Yuki and Liam. Both have
got you know, strong, strong credentials.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Indian all Roanda Ravi Ashwin has announced his retirement from
international cricket, effective immediately.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think it's already getting long.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I wouldn't be digging any questions, but so truly a
very emotional moment.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I don't think I'm in.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
An evolution that I would be answering the questions in
the adway, so please pardon.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Me for that.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
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Speaker 6 (02:35):
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Speaker 4 (02:55):
We'll join now in the Fix by newly minted white
Ball black Caps skipper Mitt Sen. Can I merge very good?
Maybe not as good as yourself. You minaged to pick
up quite the role that you captain of the white
ball game, I suppose initially. Is this something that you sought?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
No, I don't think so. I mean, I mean obviously
lucky enough to do a little bit of the T
twenty stuff the odd one day, and I guess the
avenue they wanted to go down was the white Ball
versus Red Bull captain. But I'm happy they asked me.
And it's an honor.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You see it coming.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
I mean, there's been in talks for a little while.
What they kind of wanted to do, They're still a
little bit of unknown. But I always thought obviously the
T twenty stuff after Caine and then yeah, they obviously
the combo now which is which is Yeah, obviously a
huge honor and a challenge, a new challenge, but it's exciting.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Does it change anything you do and all the way
you present, the way you play anything.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
No, I don't think so. I mean, you probably have
to talk a little bit more now, But outside of that,
I think you know the game plans and everything is
is the same, try approach it the same, but you
just try to get get around everyone a little bit more.
And I think you know a big part of that
kind of role is communication and making sure everyone knows
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where they stand, what role they need to perform, and
you know where they sit in the team.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Close relationship with the coaching staff too. That's key because
you have the conduit. After all, aren't you match?
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Yeah, somewhere in the middle there is it going to
Are you going.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
To contribute more to the coaching aspect? Do you fall
into that role a little more now that you are the.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Captain, well you just take on the head coach role
as well.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Well, I don't know, you've got your with Gary Stead
or whoever it's going to be. Plainly, you've got to
be the communicator between them. Come on, match, chuck me
your bone.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Yeah, I think it's like obviously, you know, I'll leave
the coaching stuff to the coaches and but there's obviously
a lot more you know, behind the scenes that go on,
a lot more communication between between everyone, and I want
it to be you know, everyone feels they can speak,
everyone feels a safe place, and that's what I kind
of want to want to bring forward. And you know,
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obviously that we've got a lot of experience in the
one day stuff, maybe a little bit less than T twenty,
but you just wanted to, you know, for people to
feel welcome don as soon as they're there, and you know,
gives them the best opportunity to perform Miss skills and
that's all we can and can ask for.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You've got it's similar but not the same as previous
captain to the side. You look at the calm manner
in once they approach Captain Sey and you look to
Tom Latham and you look to Cain Williamson. So consistency
and attitude I expect quite important. Do you sit with that?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Yeah, I think, you know, we've done a lot of
good stuff in the white Ball for a number of
years now, and it's more about the process of how
we want to approach it. Take results aside. Obviously everyone
wants to win, so it's no doubt. But you know,
I think what I bring is that kind of calm,
calm approach and and want everyone to be clear, you know,
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in their roles, whether it's bat where it's the top
of their mark with the ball, and and you know
we talk about, you know, if the plans right, you
know we're going to miss execution, that's fine, That's that's life,
that's that's cricket, and we can we can live with that.
But yeah, I think the stuff I've done so far,
that's all I've tried to do is make sure everyone feels,
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you know, a part of something going forward and as
clear as they can be.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
New white Ball skipper for the black Cats, Mian's Santana
joins us, what about your ability to pivot as things
change out there in the park, Wet There's a lot
to do with the coach plainly, but with your captaincy,
are you quite adept at a changing direction should be necessary?
Are you, i suppose, gutsy enough to do that to
change the plan?
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Yeah? I think so. I mean, you know, I've seen
a lot of a lot of white ball cricket over
my career, a lot of different you know, phases of games,
and we've still got a lot of experience that you know,
I can lean on as well, which is which is nice.
But you know, I'm I'm welcoming anyone to come up
to me during the game and kind of see what
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they feel, see if they see something. But it's yeah,
it's I think, yeah, like you said, it's kind of
a similar role. But I think out in the middle,
it's it's been clear, even me, it's been clear to
to what's you potentially can happen, what's if we can
try make something happen as well?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Has your luck with the toss match?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
So it's not great, it's not something you can can't
break this either, can you brouh That's that's that's kind
of tough.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It must be nice to know that you can't be dropped.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Now in many games you're losing.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
But that solidity is what the team needs in a
captain to I don't think you'd stress about that anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You seem reasonably laid back.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
No, Yeah, I think it's you know, it's all part
of it. But yeah, I think that continuity in selection
and and plans is actually a massive part of it.
I mean, changing conditions obviously change the team slightly, but
I think we've had successes. We've had you know, a
group that's been doing it for a long time and
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you know, knows their game, their role, and then it's
you know, when the new guys get an opportunity, it's
making them feel like, you know, they're part of something
going forward and just trying to execute their role. That's
all we can kind of hope for and give the
guys a freedom to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We talk before Mitchell Santner about your coaching or lack thereof. Plainly,
Gary Stead, what's the middle of the year. I think
his role comes up for grabs. Do you know anything
about where he's going coaching? We have any say in
what happens if he does decide to change and not
coach anymore, be it at a test or white ball level,
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because you're separating off, you've got a red Bull captain
and a white ball captain, which suggests possibly that might
also happen at the white ball level when it comes
to the coach.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, I guess that's a little bit of my pay
grade at the moment. But I'm not sure, you know
what his aspirations are going forward. I know he's done
a great job for us for a long time, and
you know, if he does reapply or gets a not again,
that's cool. And then but yeah, obviously we have to
wait and see we've got you know, we'll just treat
it the same leading up to the champions Trophy. That's
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obviously the next major event for us, and you know
what happened, ever happens after that happens. But yeah, I'm
not sure where what they're.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Going to do.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
It's I think that's probably a board decision and and
I'll just I'll just try work about the stuff on
the field.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
To the line.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But you say not it's above your pay grade.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
You're the captain now, mate, I think your pay grade
to be right up there, wouldn't it match?
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Yeah, I guess we'll we Yeah, there's obviously a little
bit going on behind the scenes. In the high performance
space as well, So it's I think we have to.
We'll obviously just focus on on the Sri Lanka series
and and and then the champions trophy stuff after that,
and let those guys kind of go to work about
what's gonna what's gonna happen after.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That chalky flat line, the Santa Claus Nea the Skipper.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You've got another nickname we can throw at you?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Well, I saw you see one can't The other day
it was Santa's Little Help has gone from that to
Father Christmas nice. I was like, I've got a bit
of a I got a bit of a ginger beard,
not a white beard. So that's I don't know how
that works.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, I get in a peroxide.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm sure you can go about it, although I don't
know if you could quite get a clause beard going on.
Might be might be a bit beyond you on that. Hey,
Mitchell Santa, congratulations on on the roll. I looking forward
to continually dealing with you, whether you like it or not.
You kind of have to now, as you said, being
the captain, you've actually although I'm saying that as the
captain you could probably hide behind quite a few people.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Good and you tell me you won't.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I won't, but I, like you said, I could, I
could just kind of tell guys to do media instead.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Brilliant media aids on Officer, Captain Spinner Batsman as well.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Super stuff. Good on you, Mitch, go well, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
You too.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
May.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
This is Sportsfix, You're daily does of Sports News Now
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Speaker 4 (11:14):
Be the final domino has finally fallen. But will that
mean that Liam Lawson will become a full time Formula
One driver and what arguably is the best team in
Formula One. I'd say yes, it does.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Plainly.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I'm a fan, Plainly I love Formula One and I'm
super keen to see yet another New Zealander tie down
a role in Formula One. Even more so, he will
be in one of the leading cars in the championship.
On that though, Adrian Newey, the best designer that's ever
walked the earth in Formula One, has been stolen by
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Aston Martin, so he'll be tooling up for them and
giving them the best designs in order for them to
get ahead and win the championship. And that is the
reason why Yuki Sonoda will not get the job. The
fight for This extra seat now vacated by Serge Peith
is between Yuki Sonoda and Liam Lawson. Yuki Sonoda's had
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a lot more experience than Liam Lawson four years in
the racing ball. He can drive, but he is prone
to panic and making stupid mistakes. The big thing with
Yuki Sonoda is in Formula One it is very ego driven.
The team managers, the team owners and the drivers tend
to hold grudges. So why does that work in favor
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of Liam Lawson?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Think of it this way.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Your Red Ball about to give someone a seat in
one of the best cars in the competition. Are you
going to give it to a guy who has got
one year left in his contract before he disappears to
the opposition under the watchful eye of your runaway success
story in Adrian Newey, the best designer and the business
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running a Honda Engine which is moving to Aston Martin
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Of course you're not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yuki Sonoda isn't going to be running for Red Bull
in twenty twenty five. It is going to be elbows
out Liam Lawson. As much as the Mexican fan base
hate it, that's motorsport for you. Merry Christmas, Liam really
looking forward to you tearing it up in Formula one
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
In to the Chamber we go to kick around a
couple of sporting issues. Christmas Day sport. This has long
been the domain of American sport, where there's a lot
of NBA basketball and NFL football played on Christmas Day.
We've stayed away from it down this end of the
world for quite some time. To ask, but the Australian
National Basketball League has dipped its toe in this particular
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water recently.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What do you make of Christmas Day sport?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah? Can I just like reiterate what you said then
the Australian National Basketball League. Now I know the Breakers
are part of the Australian National Basketball League, but we
are the outlies because we're from New zeal If they
want to play this, this fun and game, just ridiculous
notion of playing sport on Christmas Day, do it with
your own team, leave us alone, let them have a break.
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I just don't see people buying into this. And if
it's an Aussie thrust, use your teams right, because that's
going to get more eyeble surely.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, yeah, I mean, I must say I don't mind
the idea. I quite like the idea of having something
to watch on Christmas Day. The big one for me, Darcy,
is whether people will go along to watch or will
they couch to watch? If you know what I mean.
I'm not sure that there'll be a lot of people
who get up from their Christmas lunch, you know, and
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head off to watch a game of basketball or cricket
or whatever it might be that has played on Christmas Day.
But I'm almost certain that by the time sort of
two three o'clock in the afternoon rolls around, a lot
of people wouldn't mind watching some live sport on their
TV without having to leave their couch.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Probably.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I look at the orphans though, people I used to
be before I became a father.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I had nothing to do for twenty old years out
of Christmas, so I go, I want you to go
to basketball.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So maybe they're trying to tap into that market.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And as for.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Watching it later on the afternoon, yeah probably. I considered
this though. What about all the widows and widowers of
sport throughout the entire year they have to put up
with their better half or worse half, as it is
watching sport constantly. Surely the one day, the family day,
they can assure themselves it's not going to happen as
Christmas Day sitting it's like, you know what, I'm going
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into the cave to watch basketball doesn't sit comfortably with me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Look, and I think it's very much a I think
this is a wrong phrase, but horses for courses type
of thing. You're right. Not everybody is in the same situation.
Not everybody has family around them on Christmas Day. Not
everybody wants.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
To stead time with their family on Christmas Day, and
they're almost forced to get us sometimes to eat, drink,
open presents and discuss politics, which never never ends well
a Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Maybe a game of basketball might be a little bit
more peaceful.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Does Maybe.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Look, I suppose you've got to try new things and
you've got to expand your foot print. And if that's
what the Amba want to do, strength to them. I
just I thought it was weird that they would rope
a New Zealand team into this when I think most
of their audience are Australian based. Wouldn't they want to
watch a couple of ocker teams or they're just trying
to rope us in, don't they.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
No, that's yes, that's another very good point. We'll look
forward to seeing whether this takes us Christmas Day sport
and whether any other sports that are played over the
over the summer, the likes of cricket or you know,
a league football also dip their toe in the water
here to Formula one. That seems to me this has
been dragging on and on, but Sergio Perez has finally
finally left Red Bull. It clears the way for Liam
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Lawson to be handed the seat next year, or does
it is Yuki Sonoda still in this conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Nah, I don't think he is, and I've outlined that
in my opinion piece. Is the fact that he's leaving
in a year anyway, to go with Honda, who's also
leaving in a year to disappear off to Aston Martin
with Adrian Neuey, their former designer who's leaving next year.
So I don't think they'll do him that favor and
a little honesty. But Red Bull must be loving this
because they've been in the news now for how long
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the soft drink company just going this is great, just delay, delay, delay, delay, delay,
delay delay. The problem here, Pinty, is that Liam Lawson's
been attacked on social media, which is not unusual because
that's what people use social media for, right to attack
other people from the comfort of their living room. It's
not Liam Lawson's decision. Liam Lawson is a driver. If
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they put him in the team replacing Sergio Paris, it's
got nothing to do with Liam. He just wants a drive.
So if the fans have got a problem, aim it
at Red Bull, don't aim it at the driver. And
also Mexican fans consider this. Red Bull have lost twenty
million dollars in prize money alone this year because Sergio
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Peis has been largely ineffective since he re signed his contract.
This is a business. If you're not performing in a business,
you don't deserve to day in that seat. Remember there
are only twenty seats in Formula one, so the Mexican
race parp car population really just got to smarten up
and understand what they're dealing with here.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, just before we move on, this was Sergio Peri
is a good driver and off this year obviously, but
has he been.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes, he started in my two hunand and fifty plus races.
He's won plenty of races. He's been a fantastic rear
gunner as part of a team for Max Verse stapp
and yeah, he's been great, but he's just been terrible
this year. He re signed a contract and you think
of anything because he had a couple of podiums at
the start of the year that had lift him knowing
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he's secured, but he's continually unimpressed with the way he's driven,
the way he's qualified, so many things. He just can't
stay at that top level and not push results through,
not on Formula one, multi million dollar industry.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
All right, good insight, Darsay's always from you with your
motorsport background, and I think that brings to an end
our time together in the chamber for today, Oh.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Honey, dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Pine and Darcy Waldergrave.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And on that rather unusual and disturbing note, I think
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Speaker 3 (20:05):
None for me either, None for me either.
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