March 21, 2025 • 21 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 21st March 2025, Liam Lawson will look to bounce back from his horror start to the F1 season. Barrie Thomlinson founded the Toyota Racing Series which has seen many drivers go on to become Formula One drivers. He joins D'Arcy to discuss what Liam needs to do to get his F1 season back on track.
Piney offers his thoughts on the All Whites journey to what will hopefully be another FIFA World Cup appearance.
And the lads are in the chamber to discuss the Breakers new ownership, and give their weekend sporting predictions.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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This is Sportsfix Howard by News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome in too Friday. Welcome into the Friday edition of
the Sports Fix podcast for the twenty first of March,
at the beginning of what I think is probably the
busiest sporting weekend of twenty twenty five so far. I
know that's a bold claim, but I'm going to stick
to what I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's immense rugby union, rugby league, cricket, Formula One football.
I don't know where to stop. It is vast. I
think we're going to have no sleep and fifty screens
running all of the same time. By an m. Darci Watergrave.
Welcome into the Fixed podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, it's great to have you here. Dar It's great
to be chatting to He is always on Sports Fix
with so much to talk about. I've got some thoughts
on the All Whites. Actually, we want to kick around
a few things in the chamber. Who have we got
In terms of a guest today.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Piney, You'll be having a yarn with Barry Tomlinson. He's
the and set up the Toy and Erasing Series over
twenty years ago. A number of Formula One drivers actually
went through that series, including of course Liam Lawson and
Barry Tomlinson joining us in ops.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Given a jump looking forward to that, All right, let's
get into it. In other news, Let's begin with a
look at the big sports stories around today. Complacency has
been kicked into touch by the All Whites ahead of
tonight's Feaker World Cup qualifying semi final against Fiji, and
Wellington or Whites coach Darren Baisley says upsets can happen
(01:43):
in football, but it's usually because of overconfidence.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And normally when that happens it's because the higher ranked ten,
you know, have been bit complacent.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You're not going to get that with these guys.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They're hungry, they're ready. Players selected want to prove that
they're the ones that should be selected and the ones
that haven't been are ready to come on and prove
that they should have been. Starting the can.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Melbourne Storm have won an attritional contest thirty twenty four
against the Penrith Panthers to open Round three in Rugby
Leagues NRL. The Panther's had to battle most of the
game worth out play maker Skipper Nathan Cleary, and the
(02:23):
new Olympic President has been revealed in Costabarino in.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Greece's elected as then the President of the International Olympic Committee,
Missus Kirsty.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Coventry incumbent Thomas bark there unveiling Kirsty Coventry as his successor.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
This is Sportsfex, your daily dose of sports news powered
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Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's warm. WelCom now to the Sports Facts podcast. Who
Barry Tomlinson. Barry was one of the founders of the
Toyota Racing Series, a series where a number of young
Formula One drivers cut their teeth. He joins us, Now,
good day to you, Barry.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Hi, good evening, Darcy.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And great to have you on board. What another massive
keen for young Liam Lawson and of course Lim who's
had a wonderful start. And we can't avoid this. You're
the founder of the Toyota Racing Series, which is now
ct Frock. This is a series that has catapulted so
many young drivers, not just New Zealanders, but young drivers
(03:26):
into the wonderful wide world of Formula One. You must
sit back, Barry and look at the grid and look
at the names and go, wow, they cut their teeth
in New Zealand through a series that I helped found.
Must be cugely satisfying for you.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, very much so, Darcy. And you know, my wife
Louise and I and along with Toyota, you know, we
can we can be very proud of what we achieved
setting that series up back and oh for and you
know the year now you look around the world actually
and motors sports and you know, obviously Formula One, Lando
Norris was here with his large stroll, both Champions and Terrors,
(04:03):
and you know and Liam and Brendan Hartley, all these guys.
You know, we saw them when they were young here
in New Zealand. And yes, we have very proud to
be able to sit back and watch them around the
world and in sports car racing and all sorts of things.
That's that's quite incredible.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Really tough start, but I think under the circumstances he
did very well. I'd never raced in Albert Park in Melbourne, Ford,
didn't know the place. It was wet. He had no
time at the start because his car broke, so he
didn't get any time to circulate. I think that if
anything could have gone wrong, it did. How do you
(04:42):
feel that he presented after that? He got that fast
at lap It was on slecks and he ended up
in the scenery. But he showed it enough, didn't he
that he is going to be worthy of the seat.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yes, So, I mean if we sort of go back
to the you know, to last year and getting into
the VCARB team, I mean, you know, unfortunately missed the
opportunity to get in at the start of the series.
You know, famously Daniel Ricardo kind of took that seat,
and so that Liam missed the opportunity to run in Melbourne,
you know, last season, and then obviously had kind of
(05:15):
a half season when they dropped Daniel and put Liam
in there, and you know, and then for you know,
Liam to make the step into Red Bull Racing and
arrive at Melbourne. You know, the circuit is a very
difficult circuit. It's a very flat circuit. It's a it's
part street, part permanent, a lot of white lines, there
are a lot of bike lane lines and all sorts
(05:37):
of things over the circuit. And then yes, unfortunately in practice,
you know, he was getting up to speed in a
car in a circuit that he didn't really know, and
then of course got to the very important f P
three on Saturday morning in the car, unfortunately they had
a problem and he completed no lapse and you know
f P three is the most important session really of
(05:59):
the weekend leading into qualifying, and of course, you know,
then got into the car and qualifying, didn't know what
he had under him and and unfortunately, you know, probably
he would admit that he kind of overdrove it a
little bit, made a couple of mistakes, but you know,
those things happen when you didn't know what he had
under him, and so you know, it was a really
(06:20):
difficult start to the weekend for him, and you know,
and then that led him too the race, which was
obviously wet.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
A lot of people ask me how long is the
piece of string between when they decide we're going to
drop kicking like they have done with every other number
two driver in Red Bull. I'd suggest it's quite long
for Limb, because I think they've got to stop this
kind of behavior and they've got to develop the next tier.
I don't know how long Max is going to be
around for. They've given him some pretty harsh steps like
(06:49):
point three of a second to follow Max around. But
I think they're going to give him a lot longer
to settle this time around, and I think he'll settle
quicker than they think. Is it a fair statement, Barry?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, so yes, there's very much so Dars, you know,
he yeah, you know, there's a lot talked about the
point three off Max. Well, you know that actually is
quite a standard kind of clause and a form of
one contractors that you must be within two or three
tenths of your teammate, very standard kind of thing, so
that's not unusual and you know from there, you know,
(07:24):
you know, yeah, he will definitely be able to find
that pace in the car and yeah, yeah, so yeah,
it's going to be an interesting weekend to watch. It's
a tough one, isn't it for the sprint you know race,
But again that's a good thing because you know in
the end there will be a few sprint races through
the year for Liam and it's great that he gets
(07:45):
that very early on, that experience one practice session into
a sprint qualifier and then into the sprint race, you know,
so that it's good. It'll be a good weekend for
him this weekend, I'm sure you know.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And how long do you think he's got How long
before Red Bull gets shortage? Do you think I'm right
in that when they've got to give him longer this time,
they're running out of options. They can't keep treating their
drivers like that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
So yeah, that was the other point to your question,
which I actually lost, Sorry Darcy, but you to come
back to that point. So, look, you know that in
the media are saying three to five races and all
this kind of carry on. But as you've pointed out, Darcy,
there's a damn strong chance that Max is going to
walk at some point. Red Bull absolutely have to you know,
(08:30):
actually develop some talent. And you know they haven't taken
Limb into that seat for five races. You know, they've
looked at the guy last year, They've had him in
the sim multiple times. You know, they know what they have.
They would not have put him in that seat if
they didn't believe that Liam Lawson can develop into a
(08:50):
world class, potential world champion. You know. So I think,
you know, forget the three to five races. To forget
that's just all media hight Zach Brown at McLaren he's
going on saying, you know that there are Liam's, you know,
the skids are under Lamb. Well, you know, Zach is
just the master of creating situation. You know, you're just
always trying to put pressure on other teams by all
(09:12):
these kind of you know, all this kind of talk.
He was into Horner last year, wasn't he and all
that stuff. So I think let's let's ignore all that
rubbish and media in New Zealand, let's ignore it and
let's actually sort of start to really get in behind
Limb and really give him some home support. You know,
That's that's the key, and stop all the social media
(09:32):
rubbish that goes on, and you know, let's all be
positive for him. I think that's a real key point
here us.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I talked to his old man Jared last week about this,
and he'd been home settling and like, you know, where
he belongs, where he's comfortble, I said, Jared, can he
clean his room yet? And nothing's changed. So it's nice
to see you still just a down home kid. Hey, Barry,
thanks very much for joining us. A real pleasure. Enjoy
your week in in fact, enjoy the entire year. This
(10:01):
is so so much fun.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I look forward to talking to you again, dus Sports perfects.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The All Whites are about to embark on the final
push towards the fief of World Cup next year. Tonight
they meet Fiji in Wellington. Win that which they should,
and it's onto Eden Park on Monday night where I'll
play the winner of today's first semi between New Caledonia
and Tahiti. Win that which again they should, and their
ticket is punched to an expanded forty eight teen World
(10:31):
Cup next year. Now the expansion, of course, means direct
entry for Oceania into the World Cup for the first
time ever, which of course has made the road to
next year's tournament far less challenging than it's been in
the past. Into continental playoffs for the last three World
Cups against Mexico, Peru and Costa Rica have been too
(10:52):
big a hurdle that after the iconic, drama packed win
over Bahrain which sent the All Whites to the World
Cup in twenty ten. But just because the path is
different doesn't make the end result any less significant. Footballers
all around the globe grow up dreaming of playing at
a World Cup, and New Zealand's current crop are absolutely
(11:14):
no different. And they haven't made the rules. They have
simply found themselves in this situation. Yes, their squad of
fully fledged professionals should have far too much for Fiji
tonight and whoever they play on Monday night, but there
will still be elation when and if the final whistle
blows on Monday night and their goal has been achieved.
(11:35):
Then attention will turn to the World Cup itself, where
this team won't be satisfied simply with participation. They all
believe they belong on the same stage as some of
the superpowers of world football and can get results once
they get there. For now, though, they'll be saying, let's
just get there.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Let's pop inside the chamber where debate can run rife
and conversation as well. Or we can be in passion
an agreement some of the time, or passionate disagreement. That's
what the nature of our business is all about.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Passion Right, If you're not passionate about what you do,
if you're not passionate about sport, get in the sea,
here you go.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I'm not sure there be too many listening to the
Sports Folks podcast who are at least some eaves.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Dropping in the car, you know, going, honey, do we
really have to listen to these guys?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, well that's great having you on board, regardless of
whether you're being held hostage or you're here from your
own free will. Hey, Dus, I want to jump straight
to tonight because I'm going to be at at Sky Stadium
and Wellington calling the All Whites. Now, that's just one
of a number of sports that is happening in our
fair country tonight. We've got the football, We've got a
(12:52):
double head of Eden Park with the White Ferns and
the Black Caps, and T twenty cricket. The Warriors are
back in action tonight and Mawana Pacifica against the Chiefs
and Super Rugby. As you said in the intro, you
need about fifty screens. But where is your main attention
going to be tonight?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Shanghai?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I didn't even mention Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I didn't even mention it's only the free practice. But
with this time around over in Shang High Place, I've
actually been lucky enough to visit being to the race there.
It's a sprint weekend, so very short amount of time
on the track for Liam Lawson, so I'll be keeping
an eye on that out of all of these games.
I suppose the Warres is something that I'm fond of
very much so, and just looking to see if they're
(13:32):
going to carry on this mercurial behavior that they've been
set with for the last two decades. After last week,
same team, piney, how long? How many times has that
happened that the Warriors filled the same team three consecutive games.
That's got to be a rarity, isn't that very rare?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah? I mean for form reasons and mainly injury reagions
as well, and the coaches, you know, delectation with different
different you know lineups. I've just had a quick look.
The Warriors our favorite on our tab to beat the
Roosters tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Have they got that right? What did the Roosters do
last week?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah? I think they have got it right. In other words,
wo yeah, but you.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Don't know because they've got man in the week before
and then they started off with that try and everyone's like,
oh not again, and then suddenly three tries bang banm bang.
Oh different story.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Last week, the Warriors held on, they pushed it home,
they won it, They did it well, and that was,
as they say in the vernacular, pleasing.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah it was. I just checked the Roosters, of course
beat the Panthers. I should have remembered that. So yeah,
I think a team that's beaten the four time defending
champions not being favorite in their next game does raise
the old ol break. Look it's not We're not talking
a dollar five pays eight dollars here. It'll be a
tight contest. I was gonna ask you as well. We're
jumping around all over the place here, but I'm gonna
ask you about this really weird thing I heard you're
(14:47):
talking about on Sports Talk last night with the Chiefs
water boy or medical trainer or whatever. It is, kicking
the ball away after a try to try and soak
up some of the sixty seconds that a player is
now allowed to convert. Said try.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It smacks of it's my ball and older, I want
if you're not going to walk off with it. There
was petulant child behavior. Now don't know Clayton McMillan, I've
interviewed him, never met the guy, but I'd say he'd
be ropeable. He'd be furious. That's not the way the
Chiefs go about their business and that's just Paul, and
I think once you can say, well was that a
(15:21):
mistake or was that with malice? Second time? Bro? What
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Why do people do this? It's not like they're hiding.
You can see everybody can see it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There are forty eight cameras at a rugby game, I'm sure,
and many more in the crowd too. Who are going
to pick this sort of thing up? You're right, I
just think the ball is not yours to play with
here tonight. If you want to play with the ball,
go home and play with your own ball, but you
don't play with the rugby ball and the Super Rugby match.
You're there to run water or provide medical assistance. Don't
touch the ball, particularly when it's going to actually contravene
(15:54):
the regulations and you're going to get a fine. I
hope he has to pay the fine.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Personally, I think it should have been more than a
fine to really I suppose put a stamp on it
and say we will not put up with this. Although
I say, if the fine is fifty k, maybe it
does mean something. But what happened with that is Plumber
missed that conversion because he was hurried. Yeah, they're twenty
seconds and he got in there and he poked it wide.
Now forty minutes later, they lost the game by one point.
(16:17):
And you can't look back at one point. Go there's
the loss of the game right there. You know, you
go back a couple of faces right when it comes
to the TMO. So can you go back an entire
half and go? Wow? But there's an argument they didn't
lose it because of that. But it was not helpful
and it shouldn't even be in the playbook. No one
should be talking about things like this, not now.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Really, No, I agree, Blues Crusaders tomorrow night. Just quickly?
Who you got? Oh silly question. I'll tell you what?
Shall I shall? I? Shall I say? Who I've got?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
See?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I've got no skin in this game? If what asking
you about a Crusader's game? Although having said that, I
I mean Crusaders fifty five points last week and the
Sunshine and Christ shoots the Blues are one and four again.
This is only a tab take on it, but the
Blues are favorite. Is this the Eden Park thing?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you think this is crazy? They've done this before.
They did it in a Super final a couple of years ago.
You know after the Blues are bay the unbeaten and yep,
say it has just rolled straight over the top of them.
I'd be worried because they have. The Blues have got
so many players unfit who aren't there, that can't play,
and there's some of their superstars right across the entire paddock,
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whereas the Crusaders are starting to roll their back end
again and they haven't won away from home since twenty
twenty three, so they've got a lot to play for
we all respect. I hope the Blues do well, primarily
because I'll be there in a Crusaders jersey, and if
the Crusaders win, I'll be running to an uber before
(17:44):
I love.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'll be down sideline. I'll look out for the man
in the red and black in the stand and say,
there's my mate Dares taking a beating. Well, hopefully not.
I think we're more civilized than that. Just before we
entered the chamber, I know you've you've always been a
big fan of the Breakers. You've kept very close eyes
on them over many many years, spoken to probably every
player and coach and backroom staff member who's ever been
(18:05):
involved with the club. What do you make of the sale.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, this is a clean out, isn't it. From what
I can gather as they're cleaning out their front office
as well. They're just going to change everything. And I
don't know, have too many fans to be overly upset
by that. They got off to a great start this
season but then it just all fell away. They've had
tough times. I'm not quite sure if they're correctly focused.
Let's hope these new owners are. I think some of
(18:29):
the decisions made by Matt Walsh were poor at best.
But I've never run a basketball team. You know what
initially thought Binney thought, Oh, the black Walls are back,
they've gone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Look, yes, I thought that too.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sustaining our show to give it back?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I thought that too, But no, it's the Greists brothers
from Wellington. Who I'm from Wellington. I hadn't heard of
these guys. They have Flyn very much under the radar
here in Wellington. Successful in a business sense, and as
you say, you know, look they probably need something, don't they.
What well it mean for the players. The players will
keep their jobs those under contract, won't they.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, But it turns around so fast, doesn't it. You know,
basketball contracts do come and go. But I'd like to think.
I think you make a really good point about the
new owners. I haven't heard it of me either, not
that I expect to. But what the black Walls did
really well as they stayed in the background, they were owners,
they paid the bills and then STFU. They just kept
(19:21):
out of them that. I met Paul Blackwell once I
was having the end of this bloke. I was always
seeing around the traps and the various things I used
to host them. Wait, great man, really really liked him.
Walked off and I said, who is that guy? Anyway?
I'm talking all the time? Goes, Oh, that's Paul Blackwall.
He's one of the owners.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like, ah, you're kidding me. So isn't it classic though,
that he didn't tell you, he didn't think that, you know,
he didn't need to beat his own chest. That lost
the black Holes you know all the time, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So let's hope the Grises sounds like I like that
as well. They take care of business behind and they
let the rest of it be up front. That's the
coaching staff and the players, because that's what it should
be focused on.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Bang on, dar say nothing to add from my point
of view. Nothing to add on the chamber to day
without stay ow, welcome, out we go.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The sporting agenda. It's Sports FIGX with Jesson and Darcy
Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And out into the sunlight blinking as we are at
the end of the Sports Fix podcast, but at the
start of a very busy sporting weekend, as we're outlined
here on the Sports Fix Podcast today. Your next edition
will drop into your podcast feed on Monday at around
about this time. But plenty sport on the radio over
the next lit of wild does.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, there is of course tonight between seven and eight
Sports Talk with myself, then Piney through Saturday and Sunday
twelve mid day to three o'clock it's weekend sport and
then we recycle again seven to eight Monday night with
Piney on Sports Talk and I pick up the carnage
and run with it Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Don't
(20:47):
forget some pretty good darts over the weekend as well.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't need anything else. I really don't need another laptop.
That's what Jennie's good luck with the weekend, everybody. Great
to see your daskball do it again next week.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Go up the all Whites.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome in too Friday. Welcome into the Friday edition of
the Sports Fix podcast for the twenty first of March,
at the beginning of what I think is probably the
busiest sporting weekend of twenty twenty five so far. I
know that's a bold claim, but I'm going to stick
to what I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's immense rugby union, rugby league, cricket, Formula One football.
I don't know where to stop. It is vast. I
think we're going to have no sleep and fifty screens
running all of the same time. By an m. Darci Watergrave.
Welcome into the Fixed podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, it's great to have you here. Dar It's great
to be chatting to He is always on Sports Fix
with so much to talk about. I've got some thoughts
on the All Whites. Actually, we want to kick around
a few things in the chamber. Who have we got
In terms of a guest today.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Piney, You'll be having a yarn with Barry Tomlinson. He's
the and set up the Toy and Erasing Series over
twenty years ago. A number of Formula One drivers actually
went through that series, including of course Liam Lawson and
Barry Tomlinson joining us in ops.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Given a jump looking forward to that, All right, let's
get into it. In other news, Let's begin with a
look at the big sports stories around today. Complacency has
been kicked into touch by the All Whites ahead of
tonight's Feaker World Cup qualifying semi final against Fiji, and
Wellington or Whites coach Darren Baisley says upsets can happen
(01:43):
in football, but it's usually because of overconfidence.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And normally when that happens it's because the higher ranked ten,
you know, have been bit complacent.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You're not going to get that with these guys.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They're hungry, they're ready. Players selected want to prove that
they're the ones that should be selected and the ones
that haven't been are ready to come on and prove
that they should have been. Starting the can.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Melbourne Storm have won an attritional contest thirty twenty four
against the Penrith Panthers to open Round three in Rugby
Leagues NRL. The Panther's had to battle most of the
game worth out play maker Skipper Nathan Cleary, and the
(02:23):
new Olympic President has been revealed in Costabarino in.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Greece's elected as then the President of the International Olympic Committee,
Missus Kirsty.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Coventry incumbent Thomas bark there unveiling Kirsty Coventry as his successor.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
This is Sportsfex, your daily dose of sports news powered
by News Talks Evy.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's warm. WelCom now to the Sports Facts podcast. Who
Barry Tomlinson. Barry was one of the founders of the
Toyota Racing Series, a series where a number of young
Formula One drivers cut their teeth. He joins us, Now,
good day to you, Barry.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Hi, good evening, Darcy.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And great to have you on board. What another massive
keen for young Liam Lawson and of course Lim who's
had a wonderful start. And we can't avoid this. You're
the founder of the Toyota Racing Series, which is now
ct Frock. This is a series that has catapulted so
many young drivers, not just New Zealanders, but young drivers
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into the wonderful wide world of Formula One. You must
sit back, Barry and look at the grid and look
at the names and go, wow, they cut their teeth
in New Zealand through a series that I helped found.
Must be cugely satisfying for you.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, very much so, Darcy. And you know, my wife
Louise and I and along with Toyota, you know, we
can we can be very proud of what we achieved
setting that series up back and oh for and you
know the year now you look around the world actually
and motors sports and you know, obviously Formula One, Lando
Norris was here with his large stroll, both Champions and Terrors,
(04:03):
and you know and Liam and Brendan Hartley, all these guys.
You know, we saw them when they were young here
in New Zealand. And yes, we have very proud to
be able to sit back and watch them around the
world and in sports car racing and all sorts of things.
That's that's quite incredible.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Really tough start, but I think under the circumstances he
did very well. I'd never raced in Albert Park in Melbourne, Ford,
didn't know the place. It was wet. He had no
time at the start because his car broke, so he
didn't get any time to circulate. I think that if
anything could have gone wrong, it did. How do you
(04:42):
feel that he presented after that? He got that fast
at lap It was on slecks and he ended up
in the scenery. But he showed it enough, didn't he
that he is going to be worthy of the seat.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yes, So, I mean if we sort of go back
to the you know, to last year and getting into
the VCARB team, I mean, you know, unfortunately missed the
opportunity to get in at the start of the series.
You know, famously Daniel Ricardo kind of took that seat,
and so that Liam missed the opportunity to run in Melbourne,
you know, last season, and then obviously had kind of
(05:15):
a half season when they dropped Daniel and put Liam
in there, and you know, and then for you know,
Liam to make the step into Red Bull Racing and
arrive at Melbourne. You know, the circuit is a very
difficult circuit. It's a very flat circuit. It's a it's
part street, part permanent, a lot of white lines, there
are a lot of bike lane lines and all sorts
(05:37):
of things over the circuit. And then yes, unfortunately in practice,
you know, he was getting up to speed in a
car in a circuit that he didn't really know, and
then of course got to the very important f P
three on Saturday morning in the car, unfortunately they had
a problem and he completed no lapse and you know
f P three is the most important session really of
(05:59):
the weekend leading into qualifying, and of course, you know,
then got into the car and qualifying, didn't know what
he had under him and and unfortunately, you know, probably
he would admit that he kind of overdrove it a
little bit, made a couple of mistakes, but you know,
those things happen when you didn't know what he had
under him, and so you know, it was a really
(06:20):
difficult start to the weekend for him, and you know,
and then that led him too the race, which was
obviously wet.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
A lot of people ask me how long is the
piece of string between when they decide we're going to
drop kicking like they have done with every other number
two driver in Red Bull. I'd suggest it's quite long
for Limb, because I think they've got to stop this
kind of behavior and they've got to develop the next tier.
I don't know how long Max is going to be
around for. They've given him some pretty harsh steps like
(06:49):
point three of a second to follow Max around. But
I think they're going to give him a lot longer
to settle this time around, and I think he'll settle
quicker than they think. Is it a fair statement, Barry?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, so yes, there's very much so Dars, you know,
he yeah, you know, there's a lot talked about the
point three off Max. Well, you know that actually is
quite a standard kind of clause and a form of
one contractors that you must be within two or three
tenths of your teammate, very standard kind of thing, so
that's not unusual and you know from there, you know,
(07:24):
you know, yeah, he will definitely be able to find
that pace in the car and yeah, yeah, so yeah,
it's going to be an interesting weekend to watch. It's
a tough one, isn't it for the sprint you know race,
But again that's a good thing because you know in
the end there will be a few sprint races through
the year for Liam and it's great that he gets
(07:45):
that very early on, that experience one practice session into
a sprint qualifier and then into the sprint race, you know,
so that it's good. It'll be a good weekend for
him this weekend, I'm sure you know.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And how long do you think he's got How long
before Red Bull gets shortage? Do you think I'm right
in that when they've got to give him longer this time,
they're running out of options. They can't keep treating their
drivers like that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
So yeah, that was the other point to your question,
which I actually lost, Sorry Darcy, but you to come
back to that point. So, look, you know that in
the media are saying three to five races and all
this kind of carry on. But as you've pointed out, Darcy,
there's a damn strong chance that Max is going to
walk at some point. Red Bull absolutely have to you know,
(08:30):
actually develop some talent. And you know they haven't taken
Limb into that seat for five races. You know, they've
looked at the guy last year, They've had him in
the sim multiple times. You know, they know what they have.
They would not have put him in that seat if
they didn't believe that Liam Lawson can develop into a
(08:50):
world class, potential world champion. You know. So I think,
you know, forget the three to five races. To forget
that's just all media hight Zach Brown at McLaren he's
going on saying, you know that there are Liam's, you know,
the skids are under Lamb. Well, you know, Zach is
just the master of creating situation. You know, you're just
always trying to put pressure on other teams by all
(09:12):
these kind of you know, all this kind of talk.
He was into Horner last year, wasn't he and all
that stuff. So I think let's let's ignore all that
rubbish and media in New Zealand, let's ignore it and
let's actually sort of start to really get in behind
Limb and really give him some home support. You know,
That's that's the key, and stop all the social media
(09:32):
rubbish that goes on, and you know, let's all be
positive for him. I think that's a real key point
here us.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I talked to his old man Jared last week about this,
and he'd been home settling and like, you know, where
he belongs, where he's comfortble, I said, Jared, can he
clean his room yet? And nothing's changed. So it's nice
to see you still just a down home kid. Hey, Barry,
thanks very much for joining us. A real pleasure. Enjoy
your week in in fact, enjoy the entire year. This
(10:01):
is so so much fun.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I look forward to talking to you again, dus Sports perfects.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The All Whites are about to embark on the final
push towards the fief of World Cup next year. Tonight
they meet Fiji in Wellington. Win that which they should,
and it's onto Eden Park on Monday night where I'll
play the winner of today's first semi between New Caledonia
and Tahiti. Win that which again they should, and their
ticket is punched to an expanded forty eight teen World
(10:31):
Cup next year. Now the expansion, of course, means direct
entry for Oceania into the World Cup for the first
time ever, which of course has made the road to
next year's tournament far less challenging than it's been in
the past. Into continental playoffs for the last three World
Cups against Mexico, Peru and Costa Rica have been too
(10:52):
big a hurdle that after the iconic, drama packed win
over Bahrain which sent the All Whites to the World
Cup in twenty ten. But just because the path is
different doesn't make the end result any less significant. Footballers
all around the globe grow up dreaming of playing at
a World Cup, and New Zealand's current crop are absolutely
(11:14):
no different. And they haven't made the rules. They have
simply found themselves in this situation. Yes, their squad of
fully fledged professionals should have far too much for Fiji
tonight and whoever they play on Monday night, but there
will still be elation when and if the final whistle
blows on Monday night and their goal has been achieved.
(11:35):
Then attention will turn to the World Cup itself, where
this team won't be satisfied simply with participation. They all
believe they belong on the same stage as some of
the superpowers of world football and can get results once
they get there. For now, though, they'll be saying, let's
just get there.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Let's pop inside the chamber where debate can run rife
and conversation as well. Or we can be in passion
an agreement some of the time, or passionate disagreement. That's
what the nature of our business is all about.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Passion Right, If you're not passionate about what you do,
if you're not passionate about sport, get in the sea,
here you go.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I'm not sure there be too many listening to the
Sports Folks podcast who are at least some eaves.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Dropping in the car, you know, going, honey, do we
really have to listen to these guys?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, well that's great having you on board, regardless of
whether you're being held hostage or you're here from your
own free will. Hey, Dus, I want to jump straight
to tonight because I'm going to be at at Sky Stadium
and Wellington calling the All Whites. Now, that's just one
of a number of sports that is happening in our
fair country tonight. We've got the football, We've got a
(12:52):
double head of Eden Park with the White Ferns and
the Black Caps, and T twenty cricket. The Warriors are
back in action tonight and Mawana Pacifica against the Chiefs
and Super Rugby. As you said in the intro, you
need about fifty screens. But where is your main attention
going to be tonight?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Shanghai?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I didn't even mention Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I didn't even mention it's only the free practice. But
with this time around over in Shang High Place, I've
actually been lucky enough to visit being to the race there.
It's a sprint weekend, so very short amount of time
on the track for Liam Lawson, so I'll be keeping
an eye on that out of all of these games.
I suppose the Warres is something that I'm fond of
very much so, and just looking to see if they're
(13:32):
going to carry on this mercurial behavior that they've been
set with for the last two decades. After last week,
same team, piney, how long? How many times has that
happened that the Warriors filled the same team three consecutive games.
That's got to be a rarity, isn't that very rare?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah? I mean for form reasons and mainly injury reagions
as well, and the coaches, you know, delectation with different
different you know lineups. I've just had a quick look.
The Warriors our favorite on our tab to beat the
Roosters tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Have they got that right? What did the Roosters do
last week?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah? I think they have got it right. In other words,
wo yeah, but you.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Don't know because they've got man in the week before
and then they started off with that try and everyone's like,
oh not again, and then suddenly three tries bang banm bang.
Oh different story.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Last week, the Warriors held on, they pushed it home,
they won it, They did it well, and that was,
as they say in the vernacular, pleasing.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah it was. I just checked the Roosters, of course
beat the Panthers. I should have remembered that. So yeah,
I think a team that's beaten the four time defending
champions not being favorite in their next game does raise
the old ol break. Look it's not We're not talking
a dollar five pays eight dollars here. It'll be a
tight contest. I was gonna ask you as well. We're
jumping around all over the place here, but I'm gonna
ask you about this really weird thing I heard you're
(14:47):
talking about on Sports Talk last night with the Chiefs
water boy or medical trainer or whatever. It is, kicking
the ball away after a try to try and soak
up some of the sixty seconds that a player is
now allowed to convert. Said try.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It smacks of it's my ball and older, I want
if you're not going to walk off with it. There
was petulant child behavior. Now don't know Clayton McMillan, I've
interviewed him, never met the guy, but I'd say he'd
be ropeable. He'd be furious. That's not the way the
Chiefs go about their business and that's just Paul, and
I think once you can say, well was that a
(15:21):
mistake or was that with malice? Second time? Bro? What
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Why do people do this? It's not like they're hiding.
You can see everybody can see it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There are forty eight cameras at a rugby game, I'm sure,
and many more in the crowd too. Who are going
to pick this sort of thing up? You're right, I
just think the ball is not yours to play with
here tonight. If you want to play with the ball,
go home and play with your own ball, but you
don't play with the rugby ball and the Super Rugby match.
You're there to run water or provide medical assistance. Don't
touch the ball, particularly when it's going to actually contravene
(15:54):
the regulations and you're going to get a fine. I
hope he has to pay the fine.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Personally, I think it should have been more than a
fine to really I suppose put a stamp on it
and say we will not put up with this. Although
I say, if the fine is fifty k, maybe it
does mean something. But what happened with that is Plumber
missed that conversion because he was hurried. Yeah, they're twenty
seconds and he got in there and he poked it wide.
Now forty minutes later, they lost the game by one point.
(16:17):
And you can't look back at one point. Go there's
the loss of the game right there. You know, you
go back a couple of faces right when it comes
to the TMO. So can you go back an entire
half and go? Wow? But there's an argument they didn't
lose it because of that. But it was not helpful
and it shouldn't even be in the playbook. No one
should be talking about things like this, not now.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Really, No, I agree, Blues Crusaders tomorrow night. Just quickly?
Who you got? Oh silly question. I'll tell you what?
Shall I shall? I? Shall I say? Who I've got?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
See?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I've got no skin in this game? If what asking
you about a Crusader's game? Although having said that, I
I mean Crusaders fifty five points last week and the
Sunshine and Christ shoots the Blues are one and four again.
This is only a tab take on it, but the
Blues are favorite. Is this the Eden Park thing?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you think this is crazy? They've done this before.
They did it in a Super final a couple of years ago.
You know after the Blues are bay the unbeaten and yep,
say it has just rolled straight over the top of them.
I'd be worried because they have. The Blues have got
so many players unfit who aren't there, that can't play,
and there's some of their superstars right across the entire paddock,
(17:24):
whereas the Crusaders are starting to roll their back end
again and they haven't won away from home since twenty
twenty three, so they've got a lot to play for
we all respect. I hope the Blues do well, primarily
because I'll be there in a Crusaders jersey, and if
the Crusaders win, I'll be running to an uber before
(17:44):
I love.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'll be down sideline. I'll look out for the man
in the red and black in the stand and say,
there's my mate Dares taking a beating. Well, hopefully not.
I think we're more civilized than that. Just before we
entered the chamber, I know you've you've always been a
big fan of the Breakers. You've kept very close eyes
on them over many many years, spoken to probably every
player and coach and backroom staff member who's ever been
(18:05):
involved with the club. What do you make of the sale.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, this is a clean out, isn't it. From what
I can gather as they're cleaning out their front office
as well. They're just going to change everything. And I
don't know, have too many fans to be overly upset
by that. They got off to a great start this
season but then it just all fell away. They've had
tough times. I'm not quite sure if they're correctly focused.
Let's hope these new owners are. I think some of
(18:29):
the decisions made by Matt Walsh were poor at best.
But I've never run a basketball team. You know what
initially thought Binney thought, Oh, the black Walls are back,
they've gone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Look, yes, I thought that too.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sustaining our show to give it back?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I thought that too, But no, it's the Greists brothers
from Wellington. Who I'm from Wellington. I hadn't heard of
these guys. They have Flyn very much under the radar
here in Wellington. Successful in a business sense, and as
you say, you know, look they probably need something, don't they.
What well it mean for the players. The players will
keep their jobs those under contract, won't they.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, But it turns around so fast, doesn't it. You know,
basketball contracts do come and go. But I'd like to think.
I think you make a really good point about the
new owners. I haven't heard it of me either, not
that I expect to. But what the black Walls did
really well as they stayed in the background, they were owners,
they paid the bills and then STFU. They just kept
(19:21):
out of them that. I met Paul Blackwell once I
was having the end of this bloke. I was always
seeing around the traps and the various things I used
to host them. Wait, great man, really really liked him.
Walked off and I said, who is that guy? Anyway?
I'm talking all the time? Goes, Oh, that's Paul Blackwall.
He's one of the owners.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like, ah, you're kidding me. So isn't it classic though,
that he didn't tell you, he didn't think that, you know,
he didn't need to beat his own chest. That lost
the black Holes you know all the time, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So let's hope the Grises sounds like I like that
as well. They take care of business behind and they
let the rest of it be up front. That's the
coaching staff and the players, because that's what it should
be focused on.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Bang on, dar say nothing to add from my point
of view. Nothing to add on the chamber to day
without stay ow, welcome, out we go.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The sporting agenda. It's Sports FIGX with Jesson and Darcy
Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And out into the sunlight blinking as we are at
the end of the Sports Fix podcast, but at the
start of a very busy sporting weekend, as we're outlined
here on the Sports Fix Podcast today. Your next edition
will drop into your podcast feed on Monday at around
about this time. But plenty sport on the radio over
the next lit of wild does.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, there is of course tonight between seven and eight
Sports Talk with myself, then Piney through Saturday and Sunday
twelve mid day to three o'clock it's weekend sport and
then we recycle again seven to eight Monday night with
Piney on Sports Talk and I pick up the carnage
and run with it Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Don't
(20:47):
forget some pretty good darts over the weekend as well.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't need anything else. I really don't need another laptop.
That's what Jennie's good luck with the weekend, everybody. Great
to see your daskball do it again next week.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Go up the all Whites.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
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