April 11, 2025 • 17 mins
D’Arcy is joined by former America’s Cup sailor and long time yachting commentator Peter Lester to discuss Team New Zealand’s departing helmsmen, Peter Burling. Where to now? For him and TNZ?
What made him the most valuable member of the team? Is this as potentially as damaging as when Coutts and Butterworth departed? Lester reveals all.
Piney chimes in with his considerations around the fairytale world of the Masters at Augusta, the home of the biggest fashion crime in sport.
The Chamber is infested by D’Arcy and Piney, throwing around some sporting predictions and reckons on yet another mammoth weekend of sport.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix howard By News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It be hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fixed
podcast for Friday, April eleven. We're here in association with GJ.
Gardner Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder. I'm Jason
Pine and you say we, because.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm here too. Darcy Waldergrave with you all for the
length of this podcast should be a good and pointing
toward another dare we say it, massive weekend sport piny.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We need to find a new way of saying that,
because they all seem to be massive, gargantuan, enormous, huge,
and other adjectives at the moment. I'm sure that maybe
now it's become redundant even to say it with so
much going on, but we do have to cover a
bit off. I want to talk to you about Super Rugby.
I want to talk to you about the Warriors. I
want to talk to you about Peter Berling. Do we
have a guest to regale us today?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Peter Lester's going to join us to look back at
the contribution there Peter Berling has made to New Zealand
sailor notys retired forever. He's just gone away from Team
New Zealand and obviously sal gps the future or talk
to Peter Lester about what he's bought, what his legacy
is with the America's Cups specifically because as you know,
(01:24):
he's held the all the Mug up high three times.
Pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, it's an amazing legacy he has looking forward to
hearing Peter Lester talk about Peter Burling.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So without any further ado, let's get into it. In
other news, let's get.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Underway with some of the big sports stories around today.
Eighteen New Zealand Chief executive Grant Dalton claims Skipper Peter
Berling's exit is a mutual decision. Dalton says the tighter
cycles require a dedicated approach for continued success, and he
says the two main factors in Berlin's decision were time
and money.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We just couldn't come to an arrangement.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
The team needs certainty and we need to know that
our key people are available.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
They just didn't come together.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Fine for the essence, the next cut not a lot
on two years away now and.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We have to move on.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Justin Rose has again found himself and the hunt at
the Masters. After a scorching opening round, he's cart at
a seven hunder past sixty five to lead by three
shots from a group that includes US world number one
Scotti Scheffler.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
A really good day's golf on a golf course that
was a stern test. I think if you look at
the overall leader board, not many of those scores are there,
so you had to have a lot of quality shots
and delay to the way our player.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And Penrith co captain Isaayo has addressed their form slump
and League's NRL, the full time defending premiers have suffered
a fifth straight loss, going down thirty points to twelve
to the Dolphins at Redcliffe last night.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Looking into wonderful challenge I had there's no point being
a victim towards I think he's sort of plush holes back.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Look at all arm had on and that's what we're
doing us.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
And a Vinion.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's sports Fix with Jason Hine and Dussy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The Masters really is a sporting event like no other.
A friend of mine's there at the moment, furiously posting
photos on Facebook to make me and everybody else jealous.
I've spoken to a few other people who have been
lucky enough to go in the past, and one of
them said, without belittling the experience, that Augusta is very
much like Disneyland. When he walked in the gates and
(03:19):
saw the course for the first time, he thought the
grass must have been synthetic because it was just so perfect.
Now the ticketing situation, this confuses me a bit. Apparently
tickets are almost impossible to get, with waiting lists supposedly
years long, but there are often children out there in
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
How did they get in.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
There's also this charming little tradition which allows you to
buy a chair, slip a card with your name on
it into a slot on the back of that chair,
and then place it anywhere on the course and no
one will remove it or sit in it. So if
over the weekend you see a row of four or
five empty chairs in the front row at the eighteenth Green,
(04:00):
that's why. Now merchandise sales are a big money earner
for Augusta, who the other day they take five million
yuar US dollars per day in merchandise sales. Apparently It's
not uncommon to see people stand in line for an
hour or more, and after shopping to the point of
almost being unable to carry everything back to the car,
(04:21):
they come back and stand in the line again. Incredible,
you think, wouldn't you that, having gone to all the
trouble of getting to Augusta, you'd spend your time on
the course rather than in the gift shop. Anyway, on
the course, the green jacket still one of the most
coveted pieces of sporting apparel in the world, and Justin Rose,
who doesn't have one, has a three shot lead after
the first round. Rory McElroy, who also doesn't have a
(04:45):
green jacket, but who I would love to see win one,
was four under through fourteen holes in his first round.
Bertie's at three, eight, nine and thirteen, but then double
bogie the par five fifteenth and the par four seventeenth
to drop down to even par.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Not an insurmountable lead.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But he's going to have to ensure the same thing
doesn't happen on the back few holes for the rest
of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Dissecting the sporting at It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And it's a warm Welcome now to sailing tragic sailing aficionado,
just mister sailing Peter Lester as we talk about Team
New Zealand with no more Burling.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Get a Peter good a, Darcy Bday, massive day, it
really is.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I don't know if you saw this coming. I'm not
quite sure how many people did. But when it was
announced today that Peter Berling is off, he's excellent stage
left from Team New Zealand, that's quite an eye opener.
Do you think this was always in the wind?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think within the team it probably had. You know,
both of them have said they've been talking since the
end of the America's Cup in Barcelona, so I think internally, yes,
it's probably pretty common knowledge. Of course, for us sitting
on the other side of the fence, we sit here
and go, whoa. That was a bit of surprise. The
(06:05):
other thing, Darcy that runs through my mind is, hey,
at C the America's Cup and what you better get
used to and you know what, one hundred and seventy
four years now, this sort of stuff's been going on.
It's it's part of the game, and you know that
that's the reality. What it does for me now though,
is opens opportunity for the next rock star New Zealand
(06:29):
sailor to get an opportunity in the Cup. And that's
a positive spin that I'd put on it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You'd think that the powers that be at Team New
Zealand would have been vaguely aware it might not work
and they will have a backup plan. He's not there
replaceable on the boat on the helm, is he.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think Peter's biggest strength has always been he's so
bright and his ability to talk with the designers, engineers,
you know, the megatronics, the AI people about the performance
of the boat and what he is looking for is
his massive strength. He's from my mind that the twodemic
(07:08):
sailors that we've had in New Zealand over my time
in the America's Cup would be Tom Schnekenberg, who really
is was a genius and Peter Berling in terms of
design now ability to develop the boat, develop the hardware,
and Berlin had that second string and as both there's
a you know, it's such a wonderful sailor and you
(07:30):
know we saw the Olympic level and obviously in the
America's Cup.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's basically what you're saying, it's a perfect interface, and
that's so necessary in any form of sport when you've
got a heavy design team and then the athletic team
that actually put it into action. Having someone like that
in the middle is just key.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah, and that that's the gap that I'm sure the
new Emiratesty New Zealand, Dalton and Kevin Shubridge and team
now they'll be racking their brains and this this wouldn't
be new to them. They will have seen this coming.
I mean it is the Cup. You've got a plan
ahead and you better have contingencies and back up plans
so that they will, I'm sure and due course come
(08:12):
out with, you know, a plan and a philosophy to
go forward. The other thing that runs around my mind,
which makes it a little different to other times that
America's Cup Holnsmen of Berlin Zilk have left is remember
there are two Holnsmen on these AC seventy fives. And
(08:33):
now we're seeing the benefit of Nathan Outridge again, that
signing that they did with outrage for Barcelona at the
last Cup. Now Nathan Outridge becomes an absolute key player
for Emirates Team New Zealand, and I wouldn't be surprised.
It wouldn't be surprised at all if Nathan stays on,
and all the indications are he will, as he will
(08:55):
be promoted to skipper.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So we're not looking at a situation with Coots and
Butterworth where two of the keys go and the whole
team falls apart.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Not at all, No, no, not at all. And that
Emirates team New Zealand have debt. And you look, you
look through the team itself, and obviously I've talked about outrage,
but you know, you've got Andy Maloney in there, who
was so vital in Barcelona and he was picking shifts
around his trimming, but he was actually looking outside the boat,
(09:26):
picking wind shifts left and right or pressure. And Andy
Maloney himself, his name will come up in the mix.
And Sam Meach is also there, who was bronze medalist
in Rio and the laser class. Now Sam Meach was
not on the boat, but a darn good sailor and
he I think his name probably will get banded about
(09:50):
and the other ones. I mean, I was lucky enough
to be in Paris or Marseille for the Olympics, and
the forty niner guys that got silver there Will McKenzie
and Isaac McCarty. Surely their names must, you know, come
onto the plate as well. I thought there performed in
Paris at the Olympics to get silver in the forty
(10:12):
nineer class man.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That was top shelf.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
And of course that progression through those Olympic forty nineer
class that's where Building in two came from. So that
pedigree's pretty solid.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax, and to
the chamber we go.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Let's play predictor shell. Well, let's play predictor between two. Actually,
we can't play predictive for tonight because we've both got
too much skin of the game. Me the Hurricanes skin,
you the Crusaders skin. Are you able to hover above
the Suca We not even bother.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
The Crusaders are going to flog the Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The Hurricanes is going to flog the Crusaders.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That's about as detail and analysis as here going to get.
What I'm really interested in in this game is the
loose forwards monstering each other. There's some serious, serious beefcake
in there fighting it out. That's going to be huge.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It will be.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And beyond that we can look forward to the Chiefs
against the wire task. The one actually I think we
can talk about without any skin in the game, but
with great interest, is the four point thirty five kickoff
at Eden Park tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Blues the Mawana Pacifica.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now, in years gone by, wherever since Moran has been
in the competition, this was one we sort of had
a quick look. Actually, yeah, bluees thirteen plus and moved
on not anymore to us Mana Pacifica.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Could win this.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I don't think there's any doubt they could win this.
They're on a high at the moment, riding high on
the back of the pine tree legs of Ardisavia. You've
got to give them a chance because they're also at
eden Park. It's a Pacifica festival there too, so I'd
say a lot of the fans that turn up might
just be rooting for Maana Pacifica. But of course the
(11:50):
Blues spiraling. They managed to pick their season up last week,
but they can't afford another loss. So I think, well,
we've got no skins. We can kick back and watch
and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think Mawana Pacifica are a huge chance in this game.
I get the feeling if I look at and you know,
with very cool, cool headed logic, if that's possible. I
think the Blues are probably favorites, but I think Mana
Pacifica it wouldn't have been favorites last week when they
took on the Warratars, wouldn't have been favorites certainly the
(12:22):
week before when they took on the Crusaders down in
christ Yet. So yeah, we can come to expect some
pretty cool things from this team.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
A team that does need to kick start their season
is the Highlanders and they have to do it really
in Dunedin tomorrow night against the Druid, don't they Well, they.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Do, and I'll have to watch it on tape if
there's such a thing in this day and age. I'll
be watching the Opiki final between the Blues women's side
and Matatu and that's coming out prime time on a
Saturday night. So I'm just going to forego watching the Highlanders.
But you're right about that. Too many close calls for
(12:58):
them this season, They'll be starting to get a little totchy,
a little nervous. But I don't know, do you beg
them to actually do this?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Before to that question, does can I borrow a screen?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Because Irelanders drew a Super Rugby opicky final also at
seven o'clock Auckland FC against Sydney.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I have seen a big game, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I'm sure there's some form of supercars going on at
that time as well. Maybe it would have finished by them,
but look it's all over the shop. But like Highlanders
have got a lot to get up forward this one.
They've almost like drifted away from people's vision because everyone's
been focused on on the other bigger teams and I
think they probably quite enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Actually indeed they will.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Okay, hey Warriors quickly before we talk even more quickly
about Liam Lawson.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Warriors. Can they beat the storm of course they can?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But will Theyre's another question. Look, the best thing the
Warriors have got going for them so far this season,
i'd say Melbourne Stormer probably going to end up finalists.
The best thing got going is consistency of selection. They
have not been brutalized with injury and that is a
marvelous thing for that side. The longer they can play together,
the longer they understanding combinations, the more confident they'll they'll
(14:11):
come and that a week off too, so they'll be
feeling slightly arrested.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I can't wait for this one four o'clock on
Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And a word on Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It seems as though you know the first three and
it was probably our fault. We talked a lot about
Liam Lawson in the first three Grand Prix of the season.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
There's been less talk ahead of bah Rain.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
In fact, I had to check it was on this
weekend some very unfriendly hours, although I know you keep
some rather strange hours when it comes to motor racing.
What should we expect from Liam this weekend and bar Rain, Well,
he's got.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
His feet in the car now. He's had a crack.
I think last week at Suzuka it was a pretty
dull race. There was no yellows, there's few opportunities to
pass there, and so he may try a pit stop
strategy that was relying on a yellow that didn't happen.
So didn't go particularly well, but he kept it on.
There are three drs zones at Bahrain over the weekend,
(15:04):
and this is now I think that Lim should come
into his own. But he's got a new battle now.
It's got nothing to do with Sonoda. He's got no
new of a Stappin. It's all about Haja, who is
a potential world champion. The boys got some toe, so
he's probably relieved, has not got that much pressure on.
Now we might start seeing the Lim Lawson we know
and love.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Let's hope so early as of Monday morning, the Bahrain
Grand Prix at the end of and whatever med the
end of it will bear because the Masters will still
be going.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We didn't even mention the Masters, Darcy.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's just everywhere you look at the moment you need
another screen. I feel like I'll be at the console
of the Enterprise and Star Trek looking around at all
these screens.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Oh you missed the IndyCar.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Supercars Grand Prix. So yeah, even your motorsport is going
to take up multiple screens. I know, I know, I'm
dying here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Kill me now. My job is terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
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I've tried, I really have, But I'm what you call
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Speaker 2 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix howard By News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It be hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fixed
podcast for Friday, April eleven. We're here in association with GJ.
Gardner Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder. I'm Jason
Pine and you say we, because.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm here too. Darcy Waldergrave with you all for the
length of this podcast should be a good and pointing
toward another dare we say it, massive weekend sport piny.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We need to find a new way of saying that,
because they all seem to be massive, gargantuan, enormous, huge,
and other adjectives at the moment. I'm sure that maybe
now it's become redundant even to say it with so
much going on, but we do have to cover a
bit off. I want to talk to you about Super Rugby.
I want to talk to you about the Warriors. I
want to talk to you about Peter Berling. Do we
have a guest to regale us today?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Peter Lester's going to join us to look back at
the contribution there Peter Berling has made to New Zealand
sailor notys retired forever. He's just gone away from Team
New Zealand and obviously sal gps the future or talk
to Peter Lester about what he's bought, what his legacy
is with the America's Cups specifically because as you know,
(01:24):
he's held the all the Mug up high three times.
Pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, it's an amazing legacy he has looking forward to
hearing Peter Lester talk about Peter Burling.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So without any further ado, let's get into it. In
other news, let's get.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Underway with some of the big sports stories around today.
Eighteen New Zealand Chief executive Grant Dalton claims Skipper Peter
Berling's exit is a mutual decision. Dalton says the tighter
cycles require a dedicated approach for continued success, and he
says the two main factors in Berlin's decision were time
and money.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We just couldn't come to an arrangement.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
The team needs certainty and we need to know that
our key people are available.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
They just didn't come together.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Fine for the essence, the next cut not a lot
on two years away now and.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We have to move on.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Justin Rose has again found himself and the hunt at
the Masters. After a scorching opening round, he's cart at
a seven hunder past sixty five to lead by three
shots from a group that includes US world number one
Scotti Scheffler.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
A really good day's golf on a golf course that
was a stern test. I think if you look at
the overall leader board, not many of those scores are there,
so you had to have a lot of quality shots
and delay to the way our player.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And Penrith co captain Isaayo has addressed their form slump
and League's NRL, the full time defending premiers have suffered
a fifth straight loss, going down thirty points to twelve
to the Dolphins at Redcliffe last night.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Looking into wonderful challenge I had there's no point being
a victim towards I think he's sort of plush holes back.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Look at all arm had on and that's what we're
doing us.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
And a Vinion.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's sports Fix with Jason Hine and Dussy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The Masters really is a sporting event like no other.
A friend of mine's there at the moment, furiously posting
photos on Facebook to make me and everybody else jealous.
I've spoken to a few other people who have been
lucky enough to go in the past, and one of
them said, without belittling the experience, that Augusta is very
much like Disneyland. When he walked in the gates and
(03:19):
saw the course for the first time, he thought the
grass must have been synthetic because it was just so perfect.
Now the ticketing situation, this confuses me a bit. Apparently
tickets are almost impossible to get, with waiting lists supposedly
years long, but there are often children out there in
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
How did they get in.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
There's also this charming little tradition which allows you to
buy a chair, slip a card with your name on
it into a slot on the back of that chair,
and then place it anywhere on the course and no
one will remove it or sit in it. So if
over the weekend you see a row of four or
five empty chairs in the front row at the eighteenth Green,
(04:00):
that's why. Now merchandise sales are a big money earner
for Augusta, who the other day they take five million
yuar US dollars per day in merchandise sales. Apparently It's
not uncommon to see people stand in line for an
hour or more, and after shopping to the point of
almost being unable to carry everything back to the car,
(04:21):
they come back and stand in the line again. Incredible,
you think, wouldn't you that, having gone to all the
trouble of getting to Augusta, you'd spend your time on
the course rather than in the gift shop. Anyway, on
the course, the green jacket still one of the most
coveted pieces of sporting apparel in the world, and Justin Rose,
who doesn't have one, has a three shot lead after
the first round. Rory McElroy, who also doesn't have a
(04:45):
green jacket, but who I would love to see win one,
was four under through fourteen holes in his first round.
Bertie's at three, eight, nine and thirteen, but then double
bogie the par five fifteenth and the par four seventeenth
to drop down to even par.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Not an insurmountable lead.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But he's going to have to ensure the same thing
doesn't happen on the back few holes for the rest
of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Dissecting the sporting at It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And it's a warm Welcome now to sailing tragic sailing aficionado,
just mister sailing Peter Lester as we talk about Team
New Zealand with no more Burling.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Get a Peter good a, Darcy Bday, massive day, it
really is.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I don't know if you saw this coming. I'm not
quite sure how many people did. But when it was
announced today that Peter Berling is off, he's excellent stage
left from Team New Zealand, that's quite an eye opener.
Do you think this was always in the wind?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think within the team it probably had. You know,
both of them have said they've been talking since the
end of the America's Cup in Barcelona, so I think internally, yes,
it's probably pretty common knowledge. Of course, for us sitting
on the other side of the fence, we sit here
and go, whoa. That was a bit of surprise. The
(06:05):
other thing, Darcy that runs through my mind is, hey,
at C the America's Cup and what you better get
used to and you know what, one hundred and seventy
four years now, this sort of stuff's been going on.
It's it's part of the game, and you know that
that's the reality. What it does for me now though,
is opens opportunity for the next rock star New Zealand
(06:29):
sailor to get an opportunity in the Cup. And that's
a positive spin that I'd put on it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You'd think that the powers that be at Team New
Zealand would have been vaguely aware it might not work
and they will have a backup plan. He's not there
replaceable on the boat on the helm, is he.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think Peter's biggest strength has always been he's so
bright and his ability to talk with the designers, engineers,
you know, the megatronics, the AI people about the performance
of the boat and what he is looking for is
his massive strength. He's from my mind that the twodemic
(07:08):
sailors that we've had in New Zealand over my time
in the America's Cup would be Tom Schnekenberg, who really
is was a genius and Peter Berling in terms of
design now ability to develop the boat, develop the hardware,
and Berlin had that second string and as both there's
a you know, it's such a wonderful sailor and you
(07:30):
know we saw the Olympic level and obviously in the
America's Cup.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's basically what you're saying, it's a perfect interface, and
that's so necessary in any form of sport when you've
got a heavy design team and then the athletic team
that actually put it into action. Having someone like that
in the middle is just key.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah, and that that's the gap that I'm sure the
new Emiratesty New Zealand, Dalton and Kevin Shubridge and team
now they'll be racking their brains and this this wouldn't
be new to them. They will have seen this coming.
I mean it is the Cup. You've got a plan
ahead and you better have contingencies and back up plans
so that they will, I'm sure and due course come
(08:12):
out with, you know, a plan and a philosophy to
go forward. The other thing that runs around my mind,
which makes it a little different to other times that
America's Cup Holnsmen of Berlin Zilk have left is remember
there are two Holnsmen on these AC seventy fives. And
(08:33):
now we're seeing the benefit of Nathan Outridge again, that
signing that they did with outrage for Barcelona at the
last Cup. Now Nathan Outridge becomes an absolute key player
for Emirates Team New Zealand, and I wouldn't be surprised.
It wouldn't be surprised at all if Nathan stays on,
and all the indications are he will, as he will
(08:55):
be promoted to skipper.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So we're not looking at a situation with Coots and
Butterworth where two of the keys go and the whole
team falls apart.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Not at all, No, no, not at all. And that
Emirates team New Zealand have debt. And you look, you
look through the team itself, and obviously I've talked about outrage,
but you know, you've got Andy Maloney in there, who
was so vital in Barcelona and he was picking shifts
around his trimming, but he was actually looking outside the boat,
(09:26):
picking wind shifts left and right or pressure. And Andy
Maloney himself, his name will come up in the mix.
And Sam Meach is also there, who was bronze medalist
in Rio and the laser class. Now Sam Meach was
not on the boat, but a darn good sailor and
he I think his name probably will get banded about
(09:50):
and the other ones. I mean, I was lucky enough
to be in Paris or Marseille for the Olympics, and
the forty niner guys that got silver there Will McKenzie
and Isaac McCarty. Surely their names must, you know, come
onto the plate as well. I thought there performed in
Paris at the Olympics to get silver in the forty
(10:12):
nineer class man.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That was top shelf.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
And of course that progression through those Olympic forty nineer
class that's where Building in two came from. So that
pedigree's pretty solid.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax, and to
the chamber we go.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Let's play predictor shell. Well, let's play predictor between two. Actually,
we can't play predictive for tonight because we've both got
too much skin of the game. Me the Hurricanes skin,
you the Crusaders skin. Are you able to hover above
the Suca We not even bother.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
The Crusaders are going to flog the Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The Hurricanes is going to flog the Crusaders.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That's about as detail and analysis as here going to get.
What I'm really interested in in this game is the
loose forwards monstering each other. There's some serious, serious beefcake
in there fighting it out. That's going to be huge.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It will be.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And beyond that we can look forward to the Chiefs
against the wire task. The one actually I think we
can talk about without any skin in the game, but
with great interest, is the four point thirty five kickoff
at Eden Park tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Blues the Mawana Pacifica.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now, in years gone by, wherever since Moran has been
in the competition, this was one we sort of had
a quick look. Actually, yeah, bluees thirteen plus and moved
on not anymore to us Mana Pacifica.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Could win this.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I don't think there's any doubt they could win this.
They're on a high at the moment, riding high on
the back of the pine tree legs of Ardisavia. You've
got to give them a chance because they're also at
eden Park. It's a Pacifica festival there too, so I'd
say a lot of the fans that turn up might
just be rooting for Maana Pacifica. But of course the
(11:50):
Blues spiraling. They managed to pick their season up last week,
but they can't afford another loss. So I think, well,
we've got no skins. We can kick back and watch
and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think Mawana Pacifica are a huge chance in this game.
I get the feeling if I look at and you know,
with very cool, cool headed logic, if that's possible. I
think the Blues are probably favorites, but I think Mana
Pacifica it wouldn't have been favorites last week when they
took on the Warratars, wouldn't have been favorites certainly the
(12:22):
week before when they took on the Crusaders down in
christ Yet. So yeah, we can come to expect some
pretty cool things from this team.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
A team that does need to kick start their season
is the Highlanders and they have to do it really
in Dunedin tomorrow night against the Druid, don't they Well, they.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Do, and I'll have to watch it on tape if
there's such a thing in this day and age. I'll
be watching the Opiki final between the Blues women's side
and Matatu and that's coming out prime time on a
Saturday night. So I'm just going to forego watching the Highlanders.
But you're right about that. Too many close calls for
(12:58):
them this season, They'll be starting to get a little totchy,
a little nervous. But I don't know, do you beg
them to actually do this?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Before to that question, does can I borrow a screen?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Because Irelanders drew a Super Rugby opicky final also at
seven o'clock Auckland FC against Sydney.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I have seen a big game, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I'm sure there's some form of supercars going on at
that time as well. Maybe it would have finished by them,
but look it's all over the shop. But like Highlanders
have got a lot to get up forward this one.
They've almost like drifted away from people's vision because everyone's
been focused on on the other bigger teams and I
think they probably quite enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Actually indeed they will.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Okay, hey Warriors quickly before we talk even more quickly
about Liam Lawson.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Warriors. Can they beat the storm of course they can?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But will Theyre's another question. Look, the best thing the
Warriors have got going for them so far this season,
i'd say Melbourne Stormer probably going to end up finalists.
The best thing got going is consistency of selection. They
have not been brutalized with injury and that is a
marvelous thing for that side. The longer they can play together,
the longer they understanding combinations, the more confident they'll they'll
(14:11):
come and that a week off too, so they'll be
feeling slightly arrested.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I can't wait for this one four o'clock on
Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And a word on Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It seems as though you know the first three and
it was probably our fault. We talked a lot about
Liam Lawson in the first three Grand Prix of the season.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
There's been less talk ahead of bah Rain.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
In fact, I had to check it was on this
weekend some very unfriendly hours, although I know you keep
some rather strange hours when it comes to motor racing.
What should we expect from Liam this weekend and bar Rain, Well,
he's got.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
His feet in the car now. He's had a crack.
I think last week at Suzuka it was a pretty
dull race. There was no yellows, there's few opportunities to
pass there, and so he may try a pit stop
strategy that was relying on a yellow that didn't happen.
So didn't go particularly well, but he kept it on.
There are three drs zones at Bahrain over the weekend,
(15:04):
and this is now I think that Lim should come
into his own. But he's got a new battle now.
It's got nothing to do with Sonoda. He's got no
new of a Stappin. It's all about Haja, who is
a potential world champion. The boys got some toe, so
he's probably relieved, has not got that much pressure on.
Now we might start seeing the Lim Lawson we know
and love.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Let's hope so early as of Monday morning, the Bahrain
Grand Prix at the end of and whatever med the
end of it will bear because the Masters will still
be going.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We didn't even mention the Masters, Darcy.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's just everywhere you look at the moment you need
another screen. I feel like I'll be at the console
of the Enterprise and Star Trek looking around at all
these screens.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Oh you missed the IndyCar.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Supercars Grand Prix. So yeah, even your motorsport is going
to take up multiple screens. I know, I know, I'm
dying here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Kill me now. My job is terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Out of the chamber we go.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
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Speaker 2 (16:08):
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Speaker 3 (16:11):
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Speaker 4 (16:28):
My friends don't talk to me, and neither of my family.
I've tried, I really have, But I'm what you call
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Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, very good. All right, and we're on the radio again.
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Speaker 3 (16:49):
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tomorrow and again on Sunday. I think that wraps this
to us. Anything we've forgotten today this.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Week at all?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, In that case, then that is us consensus.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
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