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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there and welcome into the Sports Fix podcast. It
is Thursday, June nineteen. No podcast tomorrow, being Mataiki. We're
here today though, in association with GJ. Gardner Homes, New
Zealand's most trusted home builder. I'm Jason Pine with the
old mate.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And happy Samaru no coatees, no MATURRICHI I don't know.
Happy constellation should be a great day tomorrow and everyone
just lies around thanking the lucky stars that were born
here and asia right. I'm Darcy Waltergrave, Jason Pine. Sorry,
I couldn't help myself, but you know that by now
absolutely I do.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We've got a couple of days to wait for the
Super Rugby Final. Any chance we can get inside one
of the camps today.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Ryan Crotti you may have heard of him.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
What a player he was?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What a player?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And right across the board, be at NPC or Super
Rugby or All Blacks something else, he's decided to do
the whole gamekeeper poacher thing and whip across to the
coaching staff to help the Crusaders out ahead of this game.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Sort of a chat with him later in the piece.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Looking forward to hearing from Ryan Crotty. You and I
can kick around our predictions, perhaps not only for the
Super Rugby Final, but for the Warriors as well, and
are Wellington Phoenix changing their strategy ever so slightly? We
can kick this around as well, including the latest sports
news too.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So all of that to come, let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
In other news, let's get underway with a look at
some of the big sports stories around today. Queensland have
won the second State of Origin League match in Perth.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We're not dismissed empty suspecting Queensland.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I've risen from the dead again.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, they've stopped New South Wales from pulling off the
competition's biggest ever comeback. They won twenty six twenty four.
They were ahead the Maroons by twenty six to six
at halftime. Significant signing for the Wellington Phoenix women. Forty
four cap Dutch midfielder Tessel Midach is joining for the
upcoming A League campaign after four seasons and Rangers in Scotland.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
The facility is probably one of the one of the factors,
the fact that's no trophy has been one yet by
the club in the in the women's game, which hopefully
I can contribute to try and achieve some success.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And mystics.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Import Don l Wallam is nearing a return to netball's
A and Z Premiership. The Australian suffered a wrist spring
last month and has missed the last three rounds.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Every game matters when it's only two rounds, So I'm
just happy, you know, watching the girls perform like that, and.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Hopefully we'll get a few more wins on the board again.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So I feel like we're in a good position and
I'll just keep working hard at training and making my return.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's big hello now to Ryan Karate, former player now coach.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Of the Crusaders. Get it Ryan did, Darcy, good the
thought and great to have you on.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
What's it like being involved in a coaching capacity in
a final when you've spent so much time prepping for
these games as a player.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
How much more removed is it? It's the same bit different, Yeah,
I guess obviously as a coach it's just making sure
that the boys have got everything they need and prepared
as best you can for the big game. And as
a player, I think your focus is a lot narrow
and with your role and what you need to bring
and execute in this I guess the space you need
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to get and to build yourself up to go out
and perform in a big game. But yeah, I think
obviously as the coach, are a lot more spreading, not
quite as narrow in your focus and looking after the
whole group. Or are those those those critical players in
the positions you're looking after but not same, bit different
but still very special, very special.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Is it any less stressful or does it just add
more now that you've got so many more responsibilities.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
I think if you you realized pretty quickly as a
coach you don't have the same kind of control or
influence as you do as a player. So I don't know.
I thought last week I thought I was pretty kind
of relaxed heading into it, but then kind of game
time rolled around and it was the nerves started to
tack in the is the intensity of the match went on.
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So you might have to ask me that after the
game or during the game on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (04:40):
Will you'd be feeling helpless, wouldn't you more than anything
when you're sitting there, going I actually can't get in
there and clean someone out or have a.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Crack at the ref.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So that lack of control on the night must be
very frustrating for a player like yourself.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Well, I used to get a lot like that as
a As a player, you know, if you'd come off
the field, you know, and you're sitting on the bench
watching there the last ten to fifteen minutes that's all
you're in the stands with an injury, That's when the
real kind of stress used to kick in because you're
just so invested in what you're doing as a player
and you care so deeply about getting the results you
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work so hard for and you're not out there influencing
it directly. But as a coach, I think you really
do trust. You trust the boys, and because you see
how hard they work, and you said the way they prepare,
and you know how good they are, so you trust
them in those pressure moments. So I think that's the
main thing I've probably learned more as a coach is
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just not that I didn't trust when I was a player.
But when you're working with these guys day and day out,
you see how see how much it means to them,
You see how good they are, and you just really
back them and trust them.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
How much has your thought process change from being a
younger player to a player that's finally hung his boots
up to being a coach around the expectations of the
coach player relationship.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
How's that developed, Ryan, I'm still probably figuring out, mate.
Wouldn't say I'm an expert. I've only been coaching for
I don't have enough to be called a coaching for
four or five months. It's it's it's a cool I'm
in a cool space. I think I'm having played with
a heck of a lot of these guys as soon
as as recent as five six months, seven months ago,
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So you still got that that friendship, that connection, that
genuine care. So it's it's quite easy to that that
that relationship I fear is really genuine for my own.
So it's just about you know, being being my being
myself and being authentic and doing my best for the
guys and whatever space they need.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Your friends, do they even listen to you?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Some of them do?
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Some of them probably not they the boys have been awesome.
They've been really really supportive, and they've the coaches have
been so supportive everyone. I'm really grateful for how I've
been treated coming into the environment in a different capacity.
So I'm really lucky. But the guys are great. They
I think they respect the way I see and I
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understand the game, and I guess my rugby IQ and
they're only too happy to have a conversation and bounce ideas.
And now the guy's been great.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
The Chiefs clear and present danger. They have had a
fantastic gear in saying that they've been.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
At the final I've lost count how.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Many times they've been there over the last few years
and got the bride'smaids Bokay, so they becoming at this
like a bottle of the gate. You expect something quite
extraordinary from the Chiefs with all that disappointment built up.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Yeah, I unfortunately know what that feels like as a
as a young crusader. The early part of I guess
of myself Toddy Toddy in the coach's office as well,
our early part of our careers came so close so
many times, and you just know how much that builds
the desire to to go that one more so content
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to their history. Regardless as a final you know to
both teams are going to be extremely hungry. It'll be
an absolute cracker. So the boys are preparing accordingly. We're excited,
We're we're grateful for another week together and grateful we
get to scene off the old Girl, the old scaffold
Stadium off has put in a performance that would do
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it justice supports.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So what is the secret ingredient and the source of
Super Rugby Pacific twenty twenty five that has got everybody
so engaged with a product? Look, it's been a fantastic season.
There's been quality rugby right from the get go. Yeah,
there've been some easy beat teams, but in general this
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has been a fierce contest. So what is in the
recipe to make us enjoy eating Super Rugby again?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I tell you what.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
One thing, and this is an ingredient that's been missing
from Super rug for a long long time.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
The All Blacks?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This season? There has been no edict from above, There's
been no demands toward the Super Rugby coaches across all
of the franchises that they have to rest their All
Blacks possibly one of the stupidest demands that has ever
been sent out from NZR from the All Black coaching
staff that they must rest and rotate their players throughout
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Super season. It destroyed the competition. This time around, that's
not been there. We have had All Blacks playing when
the coaching staff think the All Blacks need to play.
They've been trusted to manage their own players by Scott
Robertson and by NZR. And has it worked all It's worked?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Okay. Not only have the teams been able.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
To use their best players, which in turn is transferred
to the fans wanting to watch the best players are
on display, but the best play the All Blacks are
playing against the other All Blacks. So the quality has
gone through the roof because we have got the quality
players playing. That indeed has aided and embedded what has
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been a fantastic competition which comes to a head on
Saturday night in christ Church as their rivals, the Chiefs
and the Crusaders go toe to toe to determine Super
Rugby Pacific supremacy the twenty twenty five and there are
All Blacks everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Into the chamber. We go great to hear from Ryan
Krotty ahead of two. I was gonna say tomorrow nights
it feels like a Friday Saturday Night Super Rugby final
Crusaders v.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I note, Darcy, as I'm sure you will have, that
the tab have changed the odds Chiefs one dollar eighty,
Crusaders two dollars.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
That would suggest I presume they've taken quite a bit
of money on the Chiefs this week. What do you
make of that?
Speaker 8 (11:08):
It was one ninety?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Wasn't it a pair last night? Right on equal?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
If you're into having a bit of a bit of
a flutter, don't bet more than unifford to lose, of
course by all means. But that doesn't represent good money
for me anywhere, does it? I mean, maybe a thirteen
plus or you know, twelve and under.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I just I'm interested that the money, the weight of it,
clearly has come on the Chiefs, and I can understand why.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I think.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think, man for man, the Chiefs are a better roster.
But you cannot ignore the undefeated home record of the Crusaders.
So which is more powerful in your mind?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Does home advantage?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Carrying that look what happened in the past is no
way you're going to signify what's going to happen in
the future. But thirty one finals games winning crazy, it's
hard to turn your nose up. But look, let's I
hate to say this because I'm not the biggest Chiefs
fan in the world, but they have got some extraordinary
rugby and I think they peaked and then they flattened
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a bit and now they're back into full swing if
you thought they did to the Brumby. So it's a
frightening prospect. And as you well know, as tree is
made to be broken, it may happen.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
But what is good about it is it promises so
much and going into this the inherent confidence isn't there
from a lot of people because they don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And that's where it should be, right, That's totally That's
what a Grand Final should be. It should be a
coin flip. You look for matchups and I land on
six seven eight female Jacobson Setiti up against Blackadder, Christy
Leo Willie, who's been tremendous by the way, how much
of us, say, might those six individuals have on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We're looking at what's happened previously. All the say in
the world, would you the brutality of the front of
this and I think the brutality of the defense of
margins that both the Crusaders and the Chiefs have shown
us in the last couple of weeks. It's both ends
of the how that operates. I don't know, so, yeah,
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maybe the big dudes or we'll get it going on.
I'm really interested in what maca Springer can bring. He's
flipped the other wings so sever Reese has gone to
the other side. But here's a guy that revels in
the big occasion, right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, absolutely, God, there are so many interesting little layers
to this, and really it's probably fruitless for us to
try and predict a winner. I just hope it's a
game that fits the occasion. Often, you know, grand finals
in any sport, as you know, dar us can be
damp squibs on occasion, cannot live up to the hype.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I just hope this one does.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, they get all the energy choked out of them
because everyone's afraid to make that mistake that might end
up tipping it the other way.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So you won't predict it. I won't predict it, but I.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Know I'll be there watching it, and that's the absolute
key thing get amongst what a season this has been,
and we hope, as you said, it gets topped off.
The cherry on the cake is a big, shiny glazed
one and we enjoy chewing on it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I can't wait to see what happens on Saturday night. Now,
just before that game, the Warriors are back in action.
It seems like ages since we've seen the Warriors in
action up against Penrith. Speaking of tab odds, and just
to give you an indication of where the general sporting
public might think this one is going, Warriors are dollar
twenty four. Panthers Panthers four dollars ten. I know they're
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missing a few and we can talk about that, but
when if the Panthers ever been four dollars ten against
the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Way back in the dark old days.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I don't know the recent times I've been looking at
their numbers, but look, possibly, possibly they might be lifting
right at the right time. But it's really hard to
do anything to put the Warriors down. They've just been
proving it week after week after week after week. And yeah,
I want to chat to Chance Nicol clarkstar on Saturday
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morning on the All Sport Breakfast and get his ideas
about what made it so good and how it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Worked made Did you see Caple last night?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Were going whoh bro loved it, loved it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But then then you say, okay, yes, no r is no,
Kirk Capewell, Penrith, No, Nathan Clary isaaioh Brian Thare, Leah
Martin and Dylan Edwards all five missing for Penrith. And
I know Ivan Clary's had to say on this, but
that's a huge chunk of talent coming out of the
Panthers for this one.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Okay, I'll just back track away, But then four dollars
is generous.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You're probably right.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Probably how many times out of the second stringers turn
up and go right, we're going to get this. And
then the team that have favored to win without I
when we've lost a couple.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Of keys is in.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Kurt's not there, Mitch Barnett's not there either, but maybe
just slightly resting on the Laurels head a week half
back at home, maybe they're right for or maybe four dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Is quite I got to stop. I can't do this.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Can I just mention the Phoenix briefly before we exit
the chamber, this has got such intent, as he said
before this new signing.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
How many titles for Rangers. It's not messing around, is it?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
No, her name is tess It's all midach. She is
a Dutch midfielder and has not just one of those
when often when someone gets signed they say, oh, you
know he or she is a is an international and
they might have played one or two games, maybe friendlies,
forty four Dutch caps. You don't win forty four caps
for the Netherlands without being some sort of player. Tessal
Midwark is her name. She's a midfielder and you're right,
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she's right one half a dozen titles with Rangers in Scotland.
I just feel as though dasked with the signing of
this player and a couple of others in recent times. Plus,
of course, the worst kept secret in the world that
Bev Priestman will coach the side next season, that the
focus at Wellington Phoenix Football Club is just shifting towards
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trying to get a championship in the women's A League.
That's just how it feels to me.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Okay, I hope like you wouldn't believe that they can
actually pick things up for the men as well, because
that was a massive disappointment last year for everybody consumed.
And we've got to rob anything going on here, haven't we.
They decided to stick around with gian Carlo, and that's
a good thing and hopefully they'll have their faith repaid.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, that's a good analogy. Actually, I've never even looked
at it that way.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But yeah, Colin Mansbridge and whoever sat around that table
and made that decision to keep Rob Penny on can
sit back with quite satisfaction now and maybe the same
thing will happen with the chief. But the women's side, yes,
started to build nicely. Keep an eye on them when
the new A League women's season rolls around. That is
us of the Chamber today.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I think it's priorities, not ple eights. The name of
the constellation.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I don't know. I'll get there eventually leading a VEX.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
We've got just the ticket.
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
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Speaker 4 (17:59):
Well, we're going to leave them hanging for a whole day.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I will not have it.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm coming in on my day off to record it. No,
I'm not. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I was going to say, are you and I will
be here tomorrow night. Here tonight though on News Talk
zb AS is Jason on a Monday, of a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday night, and we love bringing you that program Sports Talk.
Your chance to climb on and get involved, please do.
And i'd say next week on your program. Well, sorry,
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in the weekend on your program on Sunday, and that's
between twelve and three on Saturday and Sunday weekend. Sport
What are you doing around all black naming? How does
that work?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, well that's not all Monday.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So that's yeah, that's something that I guess will address
Monday night on Sports Talk. We can preview it across
the weekend as we can the Super Rugby Final preview review,
same with the Warriors, all that good stuff, and as
you say, do us good chances for people to interact
as well, and.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
They direct with you on the weekend because you're going
to be at the rock Pool down to christ at
you ahead of the Super Ragby Final.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, come and see us, Come and see us at
the rock Pool midday to three on Saturday ahead of
the final. We've wasted far too much time on sports
fixs today. Have a great weeks.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
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