Tuesday 26 August 2025: New Zealand NASCAR driver Shane van Gisbergen on his season of racing so far
August 26, 2025 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 26th August 2025, Trackhouse Racing's Shane van Gisbergen has qualified for the NASCAR playoff series. He has already tied up the Rookie of the Year award and won four races and he caught up with D'Arcy to tell him all about it.
D'Arcy speaks on the fallout of the All Blacks' first test loss in Argentina.
And D'Arcy and NZ Herald sports journalist Alex Powell discuss the Black Caps injury ward ahead of the international summer beginning and Daniil Medvedev's crash out at the US Open.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks EDB. Follow
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This is Sportsfix Howard by News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcoming you in to the Sports Fix podcast with the
Warman Brace High. My name's Darcy Waldgrave. It is a Tuesday,
twenty sixth August twenty twenty five lined up for you today,
we have plenty all the best and most wonderful moments
of the wide world of sport for the day, and
I'll be joined by Shane van Gisbergen, former bad First champion,
(00:44):
former surfer car champion. Of course now he's running a
NASCAR He's managed to qualify for the NASCAR playoffs and
he's picked up Rookie of the Year as well. More
with Shane. Shortly, I've got some opinions, some conciliatory opinions
on the train wreck that was the test match between
Lost Points and the All Blacks. And we'll be joined
(01:04):
in the chamber by zelland Herold sports journalists mister Alex
pal as we discuss the spring of cricket and the
lack of players. Injury list is already as long as
your arm and we'll touch on player breakdowns vis a
vis Danielle Meddath. That's our master plan, so Lea's do it.
(01:24):
In other news, the summer is but a thought springs
on the mind of the black Caps. Otober signals the
start of the season with the okas on the menu,
and already three players have felt the cold hand of
injury exclusion. Then Eran Foot, Glenn Philip Bruin and will
I Rourk. Back Head coach Robert Walter gives us the
(01:48):
skinny on the latter.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We'll reassess after that three month mark.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Hopefully the healing process has gone.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Really well and you can get into that return to play.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
As we know these things, you know, there's no definite timeframe.
And to make things worse, Mitchell Sander, the white ball captain,
is possibly out to Let's just wait and see former
Springbot Pivot and World Cup. When a dol Stransky thinks
the All Blacks will be the subject of an aerial
bombardment after their passive Argentine display.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's an area they really could at. You have guys
like it's the w chasing the kicks. You have the
wingers that are mastros are jumping and getting the ball
overhead and a big turfal like a blip us.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know will be good at it, because goodbye to
the edgent Park record. Possibly not and League great Cameron
Smith has weighed and on the Brandon Smith drug scandal.
The former rooster now a Rabbit O has been charged
with dangerous drug supply and using inside knowledge for beating
Odder December. Zoe had his life in order at the
(02:51):
time that I spent alongside him at the Dolburn storm.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So it's pretty unfortunate to see you know, you know
he's still a.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Young man, sort of come on stuff with the way.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He has use and Avidian it's Sportsfix with Dancy Vandergrave.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We'll join now by NASCAR race at Shane van Gisberg
and running in the eighty eight Chevy for Red Bull. Shane,
Welcome to the show. What a year it's been for
you so far. Must be hard for you to describe
the success you've had to date. It's been outrageous.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yeah, hey mate, good to see again. Yeah, I've had
a good year. I've enjoyed it. Very difficult at first,
but yeah, we're really find in our stride and it
seemed to be improving getting better every week, and yeah,
it's been great to get into the playoffs, and yeah,
keep building for it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Blamely, at the start of the season, you just go
out to win race by race, that doesn't really matter
come playoff time, but as you get closer to it,
feeling that that pressure. Now that you're in a position
to actually get into the playoffs, then getting there a
great relief for you.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Or yeah, yes, to know, like we weren't really like
I guess the first road course was our first proper
opportunity to win and Coda, we struggled a lot, you know,
I still knew as a team then, and yeah, I
feel like since then and Mexico was the next road course,
I feel that we make huge gains and it's kind
of just float since then. And also our ovals have
(04:14):
gotten a lot better and better, and yeah, it's it's
just been progressed, steady progress.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
It was difficult, you know, at the start of the year.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
We were in the thirties most weeks and just a
new team learning what we needed, new driver.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I had a lot to learn and still do.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
And yeah, I feel like every week we're just just
making strides, you know, and kind of coming not easily,
but we're trying not to force it, just not make
mistakes and don't take too many stupid risks.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
And it seems to be working for us.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That racer and you, though, it must be hard to
pull that back and go, don't get out of control.
You've got to keep the car from wrecking. But you've
got that attitude. So that balance for you, I'd say difficult,
but it's something you're going to be very conscious of shame.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Yeah, Like I feel like I'm a pretty conservative guy anyway,
so it's kind of suited me.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
And I've been able to.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Just build up as I go, and yeah, it's not
much pressure on ourselves, just kind of be methodical about it.
And yeah, I feel like it's really worked for us,
So there's no point to change it or force it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Tell us about the ovals and how you're moving forward,
and the ovals plainly, you've got the streets the roads
sorted out. You did that in Chicago when you first
turned up. I think put NASCAR world on notice. But
this whole oval situation, the incremental development you're making, you
feel like you're you're lifting with every race, and what
do you put that down to? Where are those moves
(05:38):
being made. Where are those positives coming into?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Just time and experience, Like we don't have ovals in
our part of the world, you know, at least time
make ones.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
We don't have them.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
So that's what everyone's grown up racing here, and it's
just that time and experience and learning and there's been
I think fifteen different Racelin is so almost half the
field here, and it is how good and how close
everyone is, so it's hard to.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Nail it on that particular weekend.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
But I feel like we're well inside the pack now
in terms of average speed, and you know, we're really
getting there almost every single week, so it just takes
time to learn. The tracks are all so different in
their own subtle way, and you know there's I guess
you know there's only two corners, so you would think
it's easier, but that just means the little details matter
(06:28):
more and you just got to get everything right, get
that flow, get the rhythm, and understand what you're up against.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
And we just don't have that.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well, I don't have that notebook yet of knowing each
track and knowing what makes car fast there.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
I'm still learning everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I go what nuanced oval racing. It looks like you're
just turning left, but fee's so.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Much more involved.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Who do you talk to around learning more about how
to deal with ovals? Do you sit with any particular drivers,
trainers on the light? Where do you pick up the
most information asides just driving?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Well, Marcus Ambrose was the most helpful last year, and
just he knew exactly what I went through and what
I'm going through. And then also I have Kevin Harvick
I can reach to, you know, and he's been a
NASCAR champion, So yeah, good bunch of guys. And then
every week, you know, we have a pretty intense meeting
with my crew chief and my spoder and my spoter
(07:21):
Josh Williams is just excellent. He's won the championship before
with other drivers, and yeah, just knows what I need
to be looking for and guides me through the races
so well. And it's a really cool dynamic we have
and I think those combination of all those guys really
helps me move forward.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You've known for winning in a number of different formula
right the way throughout your career. I can't even list
them all, from from from rally to open wheels. Of course,
whose Zellan Grand Prix even remote controlled cars, so to
slip to another car not the most difficult thing. But
what was the biggest jump that you had to make
besides driving on the left When it came to nascars,
(08:01):
what was the difference between them and the supercars.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
It's just the ovals and the way they set up,
you know, just turn one way that the cars feel
so funky and twisted to make it turn, and.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
The way the achieve speed is different to anything I've
ever driven.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
So I'm still learning a lot and still trying to
get that feeling of how much you're the car.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Can handle and how to load the tie properly. And
I'm just you know, every week I'm finding something, going
to have a little moment where I feel like, oh, yeah,
this is working.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And it's just, you know, they're so funky when you
first jump in them, and you know, the tires are
completely different left and right, and it's just they're just odd,
you know.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
But yeah, it's just it's just time that I.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Need dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Dancy Wildgrave
and the.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Army of critics have pulled up and they are taking
aim at Scott or Robertson, head coach of the All Blacks.
Rightly so, it's been a right mess so far this year.
Signs of improvement, but they have yet to capitalize on
those signs. A couple of steps forward, a step backwards,
one step forward, three step backwards. You get the general idea.
(09:15):
So the critics are out on mass and man are
they slinging. They're slinging as much excrement in the wall
as they can and some of it, unfortunately, will stick.
Here's will we find out what kind of coach Scott
Robertson is. Here's will we find out what kind of
intestinal fortitude the All Blacks players have. It's not the
(09:36):
end of the line. It's a long way to go
to the World Cup. And I'll stand by my statement.
You can be as powerful as you want in between
World Cups, but if you don't win the World Cup,
you're in trouble. Two and a half years to work
it out, two and a half years to get things right.
Will raizor flinch? Will the selection acts be swung? Will
(10:01):
find out ahead of what will be the most important
test match in recent memory. Here in New Zealand, there
are plenty of issues within the side. Can the razor
and as merry men put it all together and show
us exactly what this all Black team are capable of?
But after watching Argentina, after seeing the Wallabies and what
(10:24):
they are capable of up against the spring box, and
we all know the threat they possess is the wooden
spoon in the Rugby Championship out of the question. You
could call it both ways. That could turn around and
win the whole thing, So they could be spat out
the exhaust in a puff of shame.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Why hello there, Alex Fowell. I know you you're a
sports news right for the New Zealand Herald. Come into
the chamber and talk with me.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Not a great deal and it's not like an injury
water the black Caps. They haven't even started there. I
suppose we've caught it the spring of cricket, because it's
hardly going to be at summer of cricket and already one, two,
three possibility of four players out. Is this a signal
that maybe we're not doing something right in the sick Bay.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's definitely a signal that these guys are playing too
much cricket. For me, you look at the willow' rourke injury, like,
there's one reason why as a fast bowler you're getting
stress factors. That's because you're bowling too much.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So it's just a matter of too much time out
in the middle. That's what you're going to do.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Well, you look at will ow' rourke, all right, and
he came in. Remember he finished up in that summer
of twenty four ks. He had the hamstring injury against Australia,
a better time out to rehabit, came back in Sri
Lanka last year. He's basically played NonStop since Immer the
tourist Sri Lanka into that tour of India, into the
home summer against England and then the Champions Trophy, and
then he went up and played in the IPL and
then went off and played tea twenty cricket in England,
(11:51):
and then he went to Zimbabwe and had a saw back.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
The question here, why did he go to Zimbabwe.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
You're kind of damned if you do, and damned if
you don't know that. You've got to like show respect
to Zimbabwe as a Test nation. Otherwise, what's the point,
you know, you can't say Zimbabwe don't deserve our respect
and then not play them.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They could have come out with a line like, hey,
he's been really busy. We don't want to overstress him.
We've got a number of young fast bowlers coming through.
We're choosing to give this guy a cup of tinea
lie down before the spring of cricket when they want
to show his wears off to the locals, We'll want
to see him bowl close up right.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I imagine with Willow Rourke being a twenty four year
old in his first or second full year of intenash cricket,
he probably doesn't want to rest. He wants to just
bowl and bowl and bowl. But unfortunately this is what happens.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No one explained to him about if you bowl and
bowl and bowl you snap in half.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
No, clearly not not ideal.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But there is a production line of quicks or is
that just being a bit too positive.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I wouldn't call it a production line, but there is
a very good pool. At the moment you know you
think Matt Henry's there, he's obviously going to lead the attack.
Kyle Jamison says, he's as fit as he's ever been.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
You've got O'Rourke.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You've got Nathan Smith, who I think is excellent. Zach
Folkes came in on Debil and was excellent. Who else?
Ben Sears played one Test?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, he's back from injury, isn't he so well.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Start with for getting Jacob Duffi's in there.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So there are players there. We just want to see
the superstar and right now that team, although Zach Folks
has probably got more on them, but it was hold
on only against Zimbabwe. Hey, we're talking about this before
and the lead up to the chamber door through the alleyway.
Do you ever think that Jameson and O'Rourke are going
to play a Test match together?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I want them to because we go to Australia the
next year and I'll see having to face those two,
one of them with the new ball that gives you
nightmares as a better.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I'd say so, and they'd both be so plump pumped
for it. So do they put in some boundaries around
the playing times of these guys And it's hard to
tell them. You can't go to the IPL and make
a million bucks, isn't it. But this has got to
be managed.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
There needs to be and this has been said for
so long, by so many different people. There needs to
actually be someone running cricket because at the moment, no
one is the ICC for all intents PEPs Oh, you
mean cricket full stop, full stop, right, The ic C
for all intents and purposes does not exist. They run
a World Cup and that's it. And now we're having
a tournament organizer they are, which we're having what at
least one of year, is just so India can play Pakistan.
(14:17):
They can make a bit of money off TV because
they can't play outside of world events. But it's just
a face, isn't it. You look at other sports. They've
got rugby, look at football, they are very clearly defined windows.
This is when you play club cricket or sorry club rugby,
club football, and this is when you play internationals and
cricket does not have that.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But they haven't got the ICC any weight at all.
And when it comes to money, finance, revenue generation that
relies on the BCCI, they have got the whip hands.
So sadly it's going to take some concessions for the BCCI.
Do you see that happening?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well, I mean no, I mean in sure and like
and fair play to the BCCI in to India because
Australia didn't do what was best for the game when
they've effectively run it neither to England. So I think
to just look at India and say you have to
do this now isn't right because we've never said that.
For the BCCI could for all intents and purposes say yep,
(15:12):
we are going to do the right thing. This is
that's going to work. We're going to take a smaller
chunk of the pine and evenly distribute revenue across the game.
But that's not how a business operates.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, they've got dominance, they've got the money, so they
will carry on with that. But we talk about change,
and in the last what decade five years that the
changes and cricket have been immense. This has to settle, surely,
not saying wait the storm out, but you get the
feeling that it will find its place in time because
(15:41):
the players' unions will start saying something and I think
there's a lot of power within that, even though none
with the ICC.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
And we're seeing it now. Players are choosing to retire
from internationals. You see Nicholas Pourn of the Western These
he's twenty nine genuinely one of the most exciting players
in the game. He's just retired from internationals to go
and play T twenty. Heinrich class and South African, same thing.
He's thirty one, he's a bit older. But players are
going to vote with their feet. And unfortunately, like there'sn't
with most sports, the money is in the club game.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Let's go away to tennis now, because you talk about meltdowns,
they're not happening on a field level, and cricket mostly
up on the boardroom. But oh, dear Medvedev, Daniel Medvedev,
this is not the first time he's just lost his mind.
And Boris Becker said, hey, you probably need a rest mate.
(16:30):
Your mental health is absolutely suffering. What is it about
tennis players? Because he's not by himself now, is he?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
No.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I mean you look at tennis and you think about
how tennis players come up, and generally you're just hitting balls.
You're not interacting with like teammates, you're not interacting with
opponents like you would in other sports. You are just
heading tennis.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Balls and getting shouted at by your dad.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, generally, so I guess you lose on that front.
You're not developing sort of social skills, are you death
taxes and tennis players having a meltdown somewhere certain days
in life.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
But all of that can just be flushed because what's
happening this week again, Alex Wow? A three week layoff
back at one of the tracks of the season.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, Zandvort, I mean such a great race track.
It went away for a while, now it's back. You've
got the Dutch factor with Max for Stappan. But you're right,
I mean the banks and sand.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But of course all of our eyes will be on
Liam Lawson. Can he carry on? Who's up and up
in the racing bull?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Well, you hope so, But I think he knows he
has to keep working.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Zan.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
What's a funny old track for them, because that's where
he came in in twenty twenty three when Ricardo broke
his hand and was excellent. He started at the back
of the grid and drove home for thirteenth and what
was a car he never driven before in Formula One
for the first time. Whereas now it's sort of well,
what's he driving for for his future? You know? The
Red Bull problems aren't going away? Are they going to
(17:55):
go back? To lim reports? Out out of the UK
saying no they're not. Who knows what's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I know that I'll be sitting in front of the
TV screaming and shouting because it is one of my
favorite races, right up with Spuff from Cash. It's quite
the track, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
One am Monday, get around it and.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
On mat you get out of here. Thanks Bate, No
thanks having me.
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Welcoming you in to the Sports Fix podcast with the
Warman Brace High. My name's Darcy Waldgrave. It is a Tuesday,
twenty sixth August twenty twenty five lined up for you today,
we have plenty all the best and most wonderful moments
of the wide world of sport for the day, and
I'll be joined by Shane van Gisbergen, former bad First champion,
(00:44):
former surfer car champion. Of course now he's running a
NASCAR He's managed to qualify for the NASCAR playoffs and
he's picked up Rookie of the Year as well. More
with Shane. Shortly, I've got some opinions, some conciliatory opinions
on the train wreck that was the test match between
Lost Points and the All Blacks. And we'll be joined
(01:04):
in the chamber by zelland Herold sports journalists mister Alex
pal as we discuss the spring of cricket and the
lack of players. Injury list is already as long as
your arm and we'll touch on player breakdowns vis a
vis Danielle Meddath. That's our master plan, so Lea's do it.
(01:24):
In other news, the summer is but a thought springs
on the mind of the black Caps. Otober signals the
start of the season with the okas on the menu,
and already three players have felt the cold hand of
injury exclusion. Then Eran Foot, Glenn Philip Bruin and will
I Rourk. Back Head coach Robert Walter gives us the
(01:48):
skinny on the latter.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We'll reassess after that three month mark.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Hopefully the healing process has gone.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Really well and you can get into that return to play.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
As we know these things, you know, there's no definite timeframe.
And to make things worse, Mitchell Sander, the white ball captain,
is possibly out to Let's just wait and see former
Springbot Pivot and World Cup. When a dol Stransky thinks
the All Blacks will be the subject of an aerial
bombardment after their passive Argentine display.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's an area they really could at. You have guys
like it's the w chasing the kicks. You have the
wingers that are mastros are jumping and getting the ball
overhead and a big turfal like a blip us.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know will be good at it, because goodbye to
the edgent Park record. Possibly not and League great Cameron
Smith has weighed and on the Brandon Smith drug scandal.
The former rooster now a Rabbit O has been charged
with dangerous drug supply and using inside knowledge for beating
Odder December. Zoe had his life in order at the
(02:51):
time that I spent alongside him at the Dolburn storm.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So it's pretty unfortunate to see you know, you know
he's still a.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Young man, sort of come on stuff with the way.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He has use and Avidian it's Sportsfix with Dancy Vandergrave.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We'll join now by NASCAR race at Shane van Gisberg
and running in the eighty eight Chevy for Red Bull. Shane,
Welcome to the show. What a year it's been for
you so far. Must be hard for you to describe
the success you've had to date. It's been outrageous.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yeah, hey mate, good to see again. Yeah, I've had
a good year. I've enjoyed it. Very difficult at first,
but yeah, we're really find in our stride and it
seemed to be improving getting better every week, and yeah,
it's been great to get into the playoffs, and yeah,
keep building for it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Blamely, at the start of the season, you just go
out to win race by race, that doesn't really matter
come playoff time, but as you get closer to it,
feeling that that pressure. Now that you're in a position
to actually get into the playoffs, then getting there a
great relief for you.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Or yeah, yes, to know, like we weren't really like
I guess the first road course was our first proper
opportunity to win and Coda, we struggled a lot, you know,
I still knew as a team then, and yeah, I
feel like since then and Mexico was the next road course,
I feel that we make huge gains and it's kind
of just float since then. And also our ovals have
(04:14):
gotten a lot better and better, and yeah, it's it's
just been progressed, steady progress.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
It was difficult, you know, at the start of the year.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
We were in the thirties most weeks and just a
new team learning what we needed, new driver.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I had a lot to learn and still do.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
And yeah, I feel like every week we're just just
making strides, you know, and kind of coming not easily,
but we're trying not to force it, just not make
mistakes and don't take too many stupid risks.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
And it seems to be working for us.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That racer and you, though, it must be hard to
pull that back and go, don't get out of control.
You've got to keep the car from wrecking. But you've
got that attitude. So that balance for you, I'd say difficult,
but it's something you're going to be very conscious of shame.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Yeah, Like I feel like I'm a pretty conservative guy anyway,
so it's kind of suited me.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
And I've been able to.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Just build up as I go, and yeah, it's not
much pressure on ourselves, just kind of be methodical about it.
And yeah, I feel like it's really worked for us,
So there's no point to change it or force it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Tell us about the ovals and how you're moving forward,
and the ovals plainly, you've got the streets the roads
sorted out. You did that in Chicago when you first
turned up. I think put NASCAR world on notice. But
this whole oval situation, the incremental development you're making, you
feel like you're you're lifting with every race, and what
do you put that down to? Where are those moves
(05:38):
being made. Where are those positives coming into?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Just time and experience, Like we don't have ovals in
our part of the world, you know, at least time
make ones.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
We don't have them.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
So that's what everyone's grown up racing here, and it's
just that time and experience and learning and there's been
I think fifteen different Racelin is so almost half the
field here, and it is how good and how close
everyone is, so it's hard to.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Nail it on that particular weekend.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
But I feel like we're well inside the pack now
in terms of average speed, and you know, we're really
getting there almost every single week, so it just takes
time to learn. The tracks are all so different in
their own subtle way, and you know there's I guess
you know there's only two corners, so you would think
it's easier, but that just means the little details matter
(06:28):
more and you just got to get everything right, get
that flow, get the rhythm, and understand what you're up against.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
And we just don't have that.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well, I don't have that notebook yet of knowing each
track and knowing what makes car fast there.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
I'm still learning everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I go what nuanced oval racing. It looks like you're
just turning left, but fee's so.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Much more involved.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Who do you talk to around learning more about how
to deal with ovals? Do you sit with any particular drivers,
trainers on the light? Where do you pick up the
most information asides just driving?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Well, Marcus Ambrose was the most helpful last year, and
just he knew exactly what I went through and what
I'm going through. And then also I have Kevin Harvick
I can reach to, you know, and he's been a
NASCAR champion, So yeah, good bunch of guys. And then
every week, you know, we have a pretty intense meeting
with my crew chief and my spoder and my spoter
(07:21):
Josh Williams is just excellent. He's won the championship before
with other drivers, and yeah, just knows what I need
to be looking for and guides me through the races
so well. And it's a really cool dynamic we have
and I think those combination of all those guys really
helps me move forward.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You've known for winning in a number of different formula
right the way throughout your career. I can't even list
them all, from from from rally to open wheels. Of course,
whose Zellan Grand Prix even remote controlled cars, so to
slip to another car not the most difficult thing. But
what was the biggest jump that you had to make
besides driving on the left When it came to nascars,
(08:01):
what was the difference between them and the supercars.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
It's just the ovals and the way they set up,
you know, just turn one way that the cars feel
so funky and twisted to make it turn, and.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
The way the achieve speed is different to anything I've
ever driven.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
So I'm still learning a lot and still trying to
get that feeling of how much you're the car.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Can handle and how to load the tie properly. And
I'm just you know, every week I'm finding something, going
to have a little moment where I feel like, oh, yeah,
this is working.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And it's just, you know, they're so funky when you
first jump in them, and you know, the tires are
completely different left and right, and it's just they're just odd,
you know.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
But yeah, it's just it's just time that I.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Need dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Dancy Wildgrave
and the.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Army of critics have pulled up and they are taking
aim at Scott or Robertson, head coach of the All Blacks.
Rightly so, it's been a right mess so far this year.
Signs of improvement, but they have yet to capitalize on
those signs. A couple of steps forward, a step backwards,
one step forward, three step backwards. You get the general idea.
(09:15):
So the critics are out on mass and man are
they slinging. They're slinging as much excrement in the wall
as they can and some of it, unfortunately, will stick.
Here's will we find out what kind of coach Scott
Robertson is. Here's will we find out what kind of
intestinal fortitude the All Blacks players have. It's not the
(09:36):
end of the line. It's a long way to go
to the World Cup. And I'll stand by my statement.
You can be as powerful as you want in between
World Cups, but if you don't win the World Cup,
you're in trouble. Two and a half years to work
it out, two and a half years to get things right.
Will raizor flinch? Will the selection acts be swung? Will
(10:01):
find out ahead of what will be the most important
test match in recent memory. Here in New Zealand, there
are plenty of issues within the side. Can the razor
and as merry men put it all together and show
us exactly what this all Black team are capable of?
But after watching Argentina, after seeing the Wallabies and what
(10:24):
they are capable of up against the spring box, and
we all know the threat they possess is the wooden
spoon in the Rugby Championship out of the question. You
could call it both ways. That could turn around and
win the whole thing, So they could be spat out
the exhaust in a puff of shame.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Why hello there, Alex Fowell. I know you you're a
sports news right for the New Zealand Herald. Come into
the chamber and talk with me.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Not a great deal and it's not like an injury
water the black Caps. They haven't even started there. I
suppose we've caught it the spring of cricket, because it's
hardly going to be at summer of cricket and already one, two,
three possibility of four players out. Is this a signal
that maybe we're not doing something right in the sick Bay.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's definitely a signal that these guys are playing too
much cricket. For me, you look at the willow' rourke injury, like,
there's one reason why as a fast bowler you're getting
stress factors. That's because you're bowling too much.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So it's just a matter of too much time out
in the middle. That's what you're going to do.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Well, you look at will ow' rourke, all right, and
he came in. Remember he finished up in that summer
of twenty four ks. He had the hamstring injury against Australia,
a better time out to rehabit, came back in Sri
Lanka last year. He's basically played NonStop since Immer the
tourist Sri Lanka into that tour of India, into the
home summer against England and then the Champions Trophy, and
then he went up and played in the IPL and
then went off and played tea twenty cricket in England,
(11:51):
and then he went to Zimbabwe and had a saw back.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
The question here, why did he go to Zimbabwe.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
You're kind of damned if you do, and damned if
you don't know that. You've got to like show respect
to Zimbabwe as a Test nation. Otherwise, what's the point,
you know, you can't say Zimbabwe don't deserve our respect
and then not play them.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They could have come out with a line like, hey,
he's been really busy. We don't want to overstress him.
We've got a number of young fast bowlers coming through.
We're choosing to give this guy a cup of tinea
lie down before the spring of cricket when they want
to show his wears off to the locals, We'll want
to see him bowl close up right.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I imagine with Willow Rourke being a twenty four year
old in his first or second full year of intenash cricket,
he probably doesn't want to rest. He wants to just
bowl and bowl and bowl. But unfortunately this is what happens.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No one explained to him about if you bowl and
bowl and bowl you snap in half.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
No, clearly not not ideal.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But there is a production line of quicks or is
that just being a bit too positive.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I wouldn't call it a production line, but there is
a very good pool. At the moment you know you
think Matt Henry's there, he's obviously going to lead the attack.
Kyle Jamison says, he's as fit as he's ever been.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
You've got O'Rourke.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You've got Nathan Smith, who I think is excellent. Zach
Folkes came in on Debil and was excellent. Who else?
Ben Sears played one Test?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, he's back from injury, isn't he so well.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Start with for getting Jacob Duffi's in there.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So there are players there. We just want to see
the superstar and right now that team, although Zach Folks
has probably got more on them, but it was hold
on only against Zimbabwe. Hey, we're talking about this before
and the lead up to the chamber door through the alleyway.
Do you ever think that Jameson and O'Rourke are going
to play a Test match together?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I want them to because we go to Australia the
next year and I'll see having to face those two,
one of them with the new ball that gives you
nightmares as a better.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I'd say so, and they'd both be so plump pumped
for it. So do they put in some boundaries around
the playing times of these guys And it's hard to
tell them. You can't go to the IPL and make
a million bucks, isn't it. But this has got to
be managed.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
There needs to be and this has been said for
so long, by so many different people. There needs to
actually be someone running cricket because at the moment, no
one is the ICC for all intents PEPs Oh, you
mean cricket full stop, full stop, right, The ic C
for all intents and purposes does not exist. They run
a World Cup and that's it. And now we're having
a tournament organizer they are, which we're having what at
least one of year, is just so India can play Pakistan.
(14:17):
They can make a bit of money off TV because
they can't play outside of world events. But it's just
a face, isn't it. You look at other sports. They've
got rugby, look at football, they are very clearly defined windows.
This is when you play club cricket or sorry club rugby,
club football, and this is when you play internationals and
cricket does not have that.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But they haven't got the ICC any weight at all.
And when it comes to money, finance, revenue generation that
relies on the BCCI, they have got the whip hands.
So sadly it's going to take some concessions for the BCCI.
Do you see that happening?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well, I mean no, I mean in sure and like
and fair play to the BCCI in to India because
Australia didn't do what was best for the game when
they've effectively run it neither to England. So I think
to just look at India and say you have to
do this now isn't right because we've never said that.
For the BCCI could for all intents and purposes say yep,
(15:12):
we are going to do the right thing. This is
that's going to work. We're going to take a smaller
chunk of the pine and evenly distribute revenue across the game.
But that's not how a business operates.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, they've got dominance, they've got the money, so they
will carry on with that. But we talk about change,
and in the last what decade five years that the
changes and cricket have been immense. This has to settle, surely,
not saying wait the storm out, but you get the
feeling that it will find its place in time because
(15:41):
the players' unions will start saying something and I think
there's a lot of power within that, even though none
with the ICC.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
And we're seeing it now. Players are choosing to retire
from internationals. You see Nicholas Pourn of the Western These
he's twenty nine genuinely one of the most exciting players
in the game. He's just retired from internationals to go
and play T twenty. Heinrich class and South African, same thing.
He's thirty one, he's a bit older. But players are
going to vote with their feet. And unfortunately, like there'sn't
with most sports, the money is in the club game.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Let's go away to tennis now, because you talk about meltdowns,
they're not happening on a field level, and cricket mostly
up on the boardroom. But oh, dear Medvedev, Daniel Medvedev,
this is not the first time he's just lost his mind.
And Boris Becker said, hey, you probably need a rest mate.
(16:30):
Your mental health is absolutely suffering. What is it about
tennis players? Because he's not by himself now, is he?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
No.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I mean you look at tennis and you think about
how tennis players come up, and generally you're just hitting balls.
You're not interacting with like teammates, you're not interacting with
opponents like you would in other sports. You are just
heading tennis.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Balls and getting shouted at by your dad.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, generally, so I guess you lose on that front.
You're not developing sort of social skills, are you death
taxes and tennis players having a meltdown somewhere certain days
in life.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
But all of that can just be flushed because what's
happening this week again, Alex Wow? A three week layoff
back at one of the tracks of the season.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, Zandvort, I mean such a great race track.
It went away for a while, now it's back. You've
got the Dutch factor with Max for Stappan. But you're right,
I mean the banks and sand.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But of course all of our eyes will be on
Liam Lawson. Can he carry on? Who's up and up
in the racing bull?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Well, you hope so, But I think he knows he
has to keep working.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Zan.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
What's a funny old track for them, because that's where
he came in in twenty twenty three when Ricardo broke
his hand and was excellent. He started at the back
of the grid and drove home for thirteenth and what
was a car he never driven before in Formula One
for the first time. Whereas now it's sort of well,
what's he driving for for his future? You know? The
Red Bull problems aren't going away? Are they going to
(17:55):
go back? To lim reports? Out out of the UK
saying no they're not. Who knows what's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I know that I'll be sitting in front of the
TV screaming and shouting because it is one of my
favorite races, right up with Spuff from Cash. It's quite
the track, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
One am Monday, get around it and.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
On mat you get out of here. Thanks Bate, No
thanks having me.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
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Speaker 2 (18:22):
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(19:03):
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