On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for 11th September 2025, the All Blacks have named their squad for the second Springboks test in Wellington.
There have been six changes to the starting 15, most notably in the back three with Will Jordan shifting to right wing, Damian McKenzie starting at full back and Leroy Carter making his debut on the right wing. D'Arcy spoke with former All Black Mills Muliaina about the changes.
D'Arcy speaks on the White Ferns squad named for the 2025 Womens ODI World Cup
And D'Arcy and Piney talk about the All Blacks team named to take on the Springboks in Wellington and the standing down of Dame Noeline Taurua as the head coach of the Silver Ferns.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
I'm Jason Pine. My name's Darcy Waldergrave Pine. Mean you're
on Auckland. Ah right, the Orblacks are playing in your place,
so you can stay in Wellington. I don't care. God
cha right, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I thought you might have come down to continue this
the studio proximity we managed to establish last week, but
never mind. We can chat away remotely from one another
and there is a bit to chat, including the All
Blacks team named today for the test on Saturday night
and this ongoing drama with New Zealand Nipple. I want
to try and unpack this with you. You know, for
(01:02):
what little we actually know from the inner sanctum.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I can't unpad that. I can't even break the padlock
off the no one will let us in, but we'll
give it a go.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And in terms of a guest on the podcast today
who we're hearing from.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Where we'll be talking with Mills and Miliaena of course
excenta ex fullback for the All Blacks about the adjustments
in that bat three in the back line altogether. So
Marlellie Mills to join us.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good stuff and the later sports news coming too, So
let's get into it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
In other news, Let's get you underway.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Whether look at some of the big sports stories around today.
Calls for Netborn New Zealand to support the methods of
Silver Firm's coach named Noline Tolua, the World Coupling Mentor
has been stood down ahead of the upcoming series against
South Africa. Former national Rep Mark Foster says losing CODA
a year up from the Commonwealth Games would be devastating.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Nolan is a special coach. She has got a nate ability.
She's just a god send to be honest and her
style and her coaching proest has fixed itself.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has rewarded Foreman naming his
square of twenty three for Saturday's Rugby Championship test against
the spring Box in Wellington. Raiser says he's gone with
guys who played well in the Eden Park when last weekend.
While balancing the skill sets needed for the.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Rematch, sly Roy Carda gets to go on the wing
and keep the mecha fullback, so we'll came o the
other wing, which gives us really good backfield coverage and
we know that it's going to come again.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
The aerial Battle and White Firm's captain Sophie Devine is
lauding the near fourfold increase in prize money on offer
at the One Day Cricket World Cup in India and
Sri Lanka next month. The tournament will hand out twenty
three and a half million dollars, with seven point six
million awarded to the winners.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I'm not going to lie and say five hundred thousand
won't go down nicely, but it's life changing, Like that's
truly life changing for a number of these girls to
potentially have that sort of windfall that can set you
up for life, and that's exciting. Then it's not while
we played, but it does it. It makes a big.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Difference, use and a villion.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Hine and Dussy Walter Grave joining.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Us now on the Fix money Malana out of Breakdown
on Sky TV. Of course our former All Black he
joined us to talk about the predominantly the makeup of
the back three for this All Black team.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Good a mells, good Darcy afternoon to you, mate, and.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Thank you very much for joining us on the program.
So a few changes and this is they're not unpredictable
changes with the All Blacks, but are the back three
a place who've recently comfortable with has been adjusted? Did
you see this coming? Are you happy with what race
has done?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (03:40):
Look, I think well one, yeah, pretty happy. I think
what sort of happened to Roriykrda gets an opportunity. I
think condolence is also to Rico and his grandmother passing.
I think that's that's possibly a reason why he's not
kind of there. But they move around with Jordan and
Damie McKenzie at the back. I think it just gives
(04:02):
him a bit more of that. I think what we've
seen at Eaton Park, the ability to be able to
kick a little bit more and kick long as well,
which was something the South Africans you know, had to
had to try and come up with a different plane
around it.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
So I like it. I don't mind it. Well, we're
still going to get the high balls.
Speaker 9 (04:18):
So I think that's the one thing that won't change
from the spring box And interesting to see that went
out earlier with their team, and you know, lots of
changes the yere as well.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So Rico is not there plainly, really really bad luck
for a money with that rib damage that he's had.
So two changes in the wing and that's probably I
know we want McKenzie, well he does at fall Back anyway.
I think Jordan's been a player at fall Beck where
they want some kind of consistency, don't they on the wings,
and they can't like plump for two guys who haven't
(04:48):
one's never played before for the All Blacks and a
guy he's been on the rest for a while in
Caleb Clark.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And you know that's it's an
area where we.
Speaker 9 (04:59):
It's been talked about a lot, isn't it, particularly around
the high ball you talk about the Caleb Clark.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
I would have thought them they might have been tempted
to go with Caleb.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
You've given he's already played a couple of games for Auckland,
you know, coming back after injury. But Leroy he brings
a bit of energy, doesn't he something we know he's
he's courageous and Damian McKenzie. I thought, out of the
three of them last week under the high ball, he
was Breads the best out of them, and the or
Blanks sort of sidety timed the ball really well going
(05:27):
up in the air. And again I think it also
gives them a really good balance. Not that Will Jordan
can't kick, because he can kick as well, but it
just adds to that. You've got Jordan, You've got McKenzie,
you've got Barrett, the two Barrett brothers obviously that can
kick very well.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
And one thing that was very clear early part of
the game, the or Blanks were kicking.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Very long so as far as depth, and this is
what Ras has been talking about. So Carda does get
his opportunity. This is something that is been standing by
Razor reasonably well. He's introduced a lot of fresh meat.
I don't believe I called them that, But he is,
isn't he that.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
He is not always the easiest thing to do us,
especially when you come off a loss right in Argentina
and the pressure that comes with So he's talked about it.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
The White bait theory of four deep.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
And heavy, four guys that can easily stepped in and
to be fair, in some cases, particularly when you're looking
at the nines, go to that earlier than what he
would have wanted to do. The back three has been
I wouldn't say a problem area a problem in selecting
those sort of permanent roles because for a number of years,
(06:37):
you know, we've had wingers that have held those positions
for for a long time. So I guess in some ways,
if you're looking at a really good, positively Roy Cartley,
he's going to get an opportunity and it just grows
that depth in that department. I'm hoping that, you know,
I'm sure he will have a very good game. As
I said before, he will bring a lot of energy.
(06:59):
His work grate is exceptional. But one thing that that
he won't like his bravery in the year.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
That's for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
He's not the tallest man in the world, was he.
I think he sits around about one meter eighty, So
he's not the biggest bloke. Will they disturb him or
anyone on the team that he's not this this great
hulking character. Does it even matter?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Sometimes it does? But I just mentioned here before.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I mean Damien mckin's I thought it was timing, you know,
particularly when you're talking about the high ballers. Was you know,
it was pretty sound last week when he came off
the bench one. I mean not really, it's you know,
I think it comes down to the tip. I think
they've they're starting to get that right, you know, in
terms of the guys you know, attacking the ball through
(07:46):
the year as opposed to getting under the ball.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
And I think that's probably a problem area that we're
sort of had. But I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
I think, as I said, he's he's courageous under the
high baller, he'll certainly attack it. And you know, given
the way they went last week, you got you know,
will on the other side as well. I think they're
getting a lot better in that that department still probably
not up to the level that they're wanting. I think
that they certainly signs that they're getting a bit better
(08:14):
at the high ball collection area.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
News and Avidion It's Sports Vex with Dancy Valdegrave many.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Many years ago, back in two thousand. As it happens,
when the White Ferns beat Australia and won the Women's
One Day World Cup. They pretty much did it on
the smell of an oily rag. These athletes weren't professionals.
These athletes went back to work on Monday after their
success over in Australia. My how things have changed since
(08:45):
the turn of the century. Coming up and the next
month it is the Women's World Cup for one day
internationals and the prize pool is twenty three and a
bit million New Zealand dollars. The first prize seven point
five million New Zealand dollars. This has eclipsed the twenty
(09:06):
twenty three memes were World Cup. It shows how far
the game has come. There's a lot on this, not
only financially, but the pressures on the athletes to back
up after the let's face its surprise win in the
T twenty World Cup. There's a wonderful balance within this
side of the old school, the players that have been
(09:29):
around for a long long time. Sophie Divine at a
fifth World Cup, Susie Bates at a fifth World Cup,
Lea to Who at a fourth World Cup, and of
course mee Lee Kerr. There are some experienced players that
the team can lean on. There's a lovely middle ground
of players that are coming up to that experience to rank,
(09:50):
and then there is the fresh blood, the new crew.
And for too long the White fans were accused of
not developing the youth and relying too much on the
talent of the current players. We can still rely on
that talent because they've shown us through World Cup t
twenty six this that they have still got what it takes.
(10:11):
This is the swan song for some of these athletes,
and I expect them to go out with a bang.
There are four debutantes coming into the side. So we've
got the youth, we've got the middle ground, we've got
the experience, and we've got a tournament that to me
fairly reflects the world of cricket. It is a round
robin tournament and at the end of it you've got
(10:34):
two semi finals and you've got a final that to
me is tournament cricket. The only bad thing about this
tournament all their games start late, and I'm going to
be up till six in the morning, So be it.
Go well, Ferns, go well.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Into the Chamber we go to kick around a few
sporting issues we've heard from Mills Mulliaina about the back three,
so I think we've covered off pretty well. There anything
else in the All Blacks twenty three that was named
that raised your eyebrows particularly does well.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
When they said they've made six changes, I thought that
seems like an awful lot. And then you look at
the team and go, it's actually not that many. Some
of them are forced. Does that make sense? It seems
like a lot, but it seems like there is actually
still consistency in there. Yet a couple of injuries so
they had to adjust. But I'm seeing something quite pleasant
from the All Blacks. They understand combinations, they understand the
(11:29):
relevance of continually being packed. I like what I see here,
so do I.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And you're right because it doesn't feel like six changes
when the second row is the same Scott Baron Tupor Vai,
the entire loose trio is the same Parker Savestiti, and
in midfield the same combination Jordi Barrett and Billy Proctor.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So you're right to us.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The combinations are being worked upon while there's tweaks elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I thought that maybe Caleb Clark might have pushed his
way into that side. I really did. But as we're
talking with Mells, theessue here is we've got changes already
on the wings. Do we want to make that many
changes on the wing because a guy out with bereavement
lever with Rico Yowanni you've got to blay his manage
(12:13):
to bugger his ribs in Nadawa. So maybe too much
change and they just didn't want to risk that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think that probably is a big part of it.
And look, let's not get away from the fact that
this will be another huge challenge for the All Blacks
on Saturday night because they're up against a South African
team that came here with every intention of winning both
Test matches and now they're staring down the barrel of
losing both Test matches. Another position I'm keen to get
your thoughts on is Hooker now SUMMERSONI Tokyaho boost onto
(12:43):
the scene two or three years ago and we all
thought he was going to be a massive force on
the Black Jersey and has been on occasion and might
still be. But he didn't start a single Test match
last year. He's starting on Saturday night in Wellington. Quite
a big night for SUMMERSAUNI.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I caught up with them last week. Thoroughly nice individual,
it must be said, but you don't remember this guy's experience.
He's in mid thirties now when it comes to tests,
so he's not comfortable in that role. He probably shouldn't
be there. So I have no problem with Summersony. I
just hope that he can get his line out straight.
I mean that's a key thing here because I know
(13:20):
the guy coming off the bench, Brody, he struggled with that.
Before you talk about core roles, that has got to
be a core role. You can run around the park
and run over people all you want, but you need
to scrumb and you need to deliver the ball and
some of the timber in that South African side maybe
be wary of this.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Just before we leave the All Blacks. So I just
want to give a shout out to Quintupia as well,
who was just putting together a nice little body of work,
either as a starting player, which he got the opportunity
against France and Hamilton, or off the bench. This is
the third consecutive Test match he'll come off the bench
to cover midfield. I thought when he came on last
week for Jordy Barrett's Hia and you know, and then
(14:00):
later on in the piece as well, just the way
that he conducts himself at the moment. I really like
the way that Quintupia was going about his business.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I thought you'd actually climb in to talk about
Ruben Love because this is great. Ruben's at home, he
knows the place, he knows the winds, and you need
to know that even though on a good day you
can't beat Wellington, but there is that when. But this
is great for Ruben Love. This guy's got that X factor.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He has indeed, and just a second opportunity of the
year as well after he also started that Test in Hamilton.
He's had to be patient through the last three, but yeah,
he'll get another run out on his home field on
Saturday night. We'll kick around some more of the All
Blacks issues tomorrow on the podcast, But can we move
to netball? As you said in the intro, it's hard
to unpack something we don't know a heck of a
(14:42):
lot about. But from the outside looking in, this seems
to be a very very curious decision to get rid
of probably our best ever Silver Fern's coach for reasons
that really aren't yet altogether clear. What's your thought process
around this?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
So you always say this, you create a vacuum, what happens,
it gets filled somehow, So it's being filled by everybody
in sport. They're all got a theory out on what's going.
I think the theory that appears to have attracted the
most interest is there are they talk about environment in
that press release? Plainly I would say that some of
(15:20):
the younger players in the side can't quite deal with
what Dame Nolen Todua is doing and they don't like it,
and they've had a bit of a winge and it's
just triggered on from there. And i'd suggest that it's
still going and everyone's been very very quiet, and no
one wants to breathe a word, and trust me, you
don't on the same as me, you'd be ringing everybody.
(15:40):
It's very very tight. And I've got to look at
this and think this doesn't look good for Dame Nolean
because it's easy to get rid of the coach, then
get rid of an entire team coming through. It seems
strange though, doesn't It So strange?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So strange, And I think the outpouring of support for
Dame Nolen Todua, mainly from you know, former players, because
you're right, nobody in the current environment's going to chat
about this because they're too close to it. But you
know when you hear or read Laura Lang and one
of our greats come out and talk about how this
is one of the saddest days in New Zealand netball history,
(16:15):
and Irene van Dyke adding her impetus to that, Mark Foster,
you know, Evonne willaring some big names in netball, albeit
from the past. And look where I don't think we're
dinosaurs enough Darcy to know that things can and must change.
But when you get high level support like that, it
makes you wonder about the decision making process that has
(16:36):
led us to this point.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, beside that trouble and we don't know exactly what
it is, we can have an idea, we can feel
that vacuum. The bigger thing here is you look at
Netball New Zealand and their ability to manage crisis and
you start questioning that. You can't not write now come
through a lot of recent times they've been taken a
bit of a beating right across the park and this
(16:58):
is just more load on top of them. You've got
to ask the capabilities around the brass at Netball New
Zealand do they actually know what they're doing and how
can deal with the problem right in front of them?
Because it doesn't look good currently.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Not at all. No, the current brass have not overseen
a period of particular glory in such a massive sport
for us, the sport of netball. You and I will
keep hitting the phones or our producers well to try
and get further comments and further insight into this, and
maybe we can update you twenty four hours from now
on the sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
But for now, that's us in the chamber today dissecting
the sporting agenda.
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
I'm Jason Pine. My name's Darcy Waldergrave Pine. Mean you're
on Auckland. Ah right, the Orblacks are playing in your place,
so you can stay in Wellington. I don't care. God
cha right, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I thought you might have come down to continue this
the studio proximity we managed to establish last week, but
never mind. We can chat away remotely from one another
and there is a bit to chat, including the All
Blacks team named today for the test on Saturday night
and this ongoing drama with New Zealand Nipple. I want
to try and unpack this with you. You know, for
(01:02):
what little we actually know from the inner sanctum.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I can't unpad that. I can't even break the padlock
off the no one will let us in, but we'll
give it a go.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And in terms of a guest on the podcast today
who we're hearing from.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Where we'll be talking with Mills and Miliaena of course
excenta ex fullback for the All Blacks about the adjustments
in that bat three in the back line altogether. So
Marlellie Mills to join us.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good stuff and the later sports news coming too, So
let's get into it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
In other news, Let's get you underway.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Whether look at some of the big sports stories around today.
Calls for Netborn New Zealand to support the methods of
Silver Firm's coach named Noline Tolua, the World Coupling Mentor
has been stood down ahead of the upcoming series against
South Africa. Former national Rep Mark Foster says losing CODA
a year up from the Commonwealth Games would be devastating.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Nolan is a special coach. She has got a nate ability.
She's just a god send to be honest and her
style and her coaching proest has fixed itself.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has rewarded Foreman naming his
square of twenty three for Saturday's Rugby Championship test against
the spring Box in Wellington. Raiser says he's gone with
guys who played well in the Eden Park when last weekend.
While balancing the skill sets needed for the.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Rematch, sly Roy Carda gets to go on the wing
and keep the mecha fullback, so we'll came o the
other wing, which gives us really good backfield coverage and
we know that it's going to come again.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
The aerial Battle and White Firm's captain Sophie Devine is
lauding the near fourfold increase in prize money on offer
at the One Day Cricket World Cup in India and
Sri Lanka next month. The tournament will hand out twenty
three and a half million dollars, with seven point six
million awarded to the winners.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I'm not going to lie and say five hundred thousand
won't go down nicely, but it's life changing, Like that's
truly life changing for a number of these girls to
potentially have that sort of windfall that can set you
up for life, and that's exciting. Then it's not while
we played, but it does it. It makes a big.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Difference, use and a villion.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Hine and Dussy Walter Grave joining.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Us now on the Fix money Malana out of Breakdown
on Sky TV. Of course our former All Black he
joined us to talk about the predominantly the makeup of
the back three for this All Black team.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Good a mells, good Darcy afternoon to you, mate, and.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Thank you very much for joining us on the program.
So a few changes and this is they're not unpredictable
changes with the All Blacks, but are the back three
a place who've recently comfortable with has been adjusted? Did
you see this coming? Are you happy with what race
has done?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (03:40):
Look, I think well one, yeah, pretty happy. I think
what sort of happened to Roriykrda gets an opportunity. I
think condolence is also to Rico and his grandmother passing.
I think that's that's possibly a reason why he's not
kind of there. But they move around with Jordan and
Damie McKenzie at the back. I think it just gives
(04:02):
him a bit more of that. I think what we've
seen at Eaton Park, the ability to be able to
kick a little bit more and kick long as well,
which was something the South Africans you know, had to
had to try and come up with a different plane
around it.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
So I like it. I don't mind it. Well, we're
still going to get the high balls.
Speaker 9 (04:18):
So I think that's the one thing that won't change
from the spring box And interesting to see that went
out earlier with their team, and you know, lots of
changes the yere as well.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So Rico is not there plainly, really really bad luck
for a money with that rib damage that he's had.
So two changes in the wing and that's probably I
know we want McKenzie, well he does at fall Back anyway.
I think Jordan's been a player at fall Beck where
they want some kind of consistency, don't they on the wings,
and they can't like plump for two guys who haven't
(04:48):
one's never played before for the All Blacks and a
guy he's been on the rest for a while in
Caleb Clark.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And you know that's it's an
area where we.
Speaker 9 (04:59):
It's been talked about a lot, isn't it, particularly around
the high ball you talk about the Caleb Clark.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
I would have thought them they might have been tempted
to go with Caleb.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
You've given he's already played a couple of games for Auckland,
you know, coming back after injury. But Leroy he brings
a bit of energy, doesn't he something we know he's
he's courageous and Damian McKenzie. I thought, out of the
three of them last week under the high ball, he
was Breads the best out of them, and the or
Blanks sort of sidety timed the ball really well going
(05:27):
up in the air. And again I think it also
gives them a really good balance. Not that Will Jordan
can't kick, because he can kick as well, but it
just adds to that. You've got Jordan, You've got McKenzie,
you've got Barrett, the two Barrett brothers obviously that can
kick very well.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
And one thing that was very clear early part of
the game, the or Blanks were kicking.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Very long so as far as depth, and this is
what Ras has been talking about. So Carda does get
his opportunity. This is something that is been standing by
Razor reasonably well. He's introduced a lot of fresh meat.
I don't believe I called them that, But he is,
isn't he that.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
He is not always the easiest thing to do us,
especially when you come off a loss right in Argentina
and the pressure that comes with So he's talked about it.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
The White bait theory of four deep.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
And heavy, four guys that can easily stepped in and
to be fair, in some cases, particularly when you're looking
at the nines, go to that earlier than what he
would have wanted to do. The back three has been
I wouldn't say a problem area a problem in selecting
those sort of permanent roles because for a number of years,
(06:37):
you know, we've had wingers that have held those positions
for for a long time. So I guess in some ways,
if you're looking at a really good, positively Roy Cartley,
he's going to get an opportunity and it just grows
that depth in that department. I'm hoping that, you know,
I'm sure he will have a very good game. As
I said before, he will bring a lot of energy.
(06:59):
His work grate is exceptional. But one thing that that
he won't like his bravery in the year.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
That's for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
He's not the tallest man in the world, was he.
I think he sits around about one meter eighty, So
he's not the biggest bloke. Will they disturb him or
anyone on the team that he's not this this great
hulking character. Does it even matter?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Sometimes it does? But I just mentioned here before.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I mean Damien mckin's I thought it was timing, you know,
particularly when you're talking about the high ballers. Was you know,
it was pretty sound last week when he came off
the bench one. I mean not really, it's you know,
I think it comes down to the tip. I think
they've they're starting to get that right, you know, in
terms of the guys you know, attacking the ball through
(07:46):
the year as opposed to getting under the ball.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
And I think that's probably a problem area that we're
sort of had. But I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
I think, as I said, he's he's courageous under the
high baller, he'll certainly attack it. And you know, given
the way they went last week, you got you know,
will on the other side as well. I think they're
getting a lot better in that that department still probably
not up to the level that they're wanting. I think
that they certainly signs that they're getting a bit better
(08:14):
at the high ball collection area.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
News and Avidion It's Sports Vex with Dancy Valdegrave many.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Many years ago, back in two thousand. As it happens,
when the White Ferns beat Australia and won the Women's
One Day World Cup. They pretty much did it on
the smell of an oily rag. These athletes weren't professionals.
These athletes went back to work on Monday after their
success over in Australia. My how things have changed since
(08:45):
the turn of the century. Coming up and the next
month it is the Women's World Cup for one day
internationals and the prize pool is twenty three and a
bit million New Zealand dollars. The first prize seven point
five million New Zealand dollars. This has eclipsed the twenty
(09:06):
twenty three memes were World Cup. It shows how far
the game has come. There's a lot on this, not
only financially, but the pressures on the athletes to back
up after the let's face its surprise win in the
T twenty World Cup. There's a wonderful balance within this
side of the old school, the players that have been
(09:29):
around for a long long time. Sophie Divine at a
fifth World Cup, Susie Bates at a fifth World Cup,
Lea to Who at a fourth World Cup, and of
course mee Lee Kerr. There are some experienced players that
the team can lean on. There's a lovely middle ground
of players that are coming up to that experience to rank,
(09:50):
and then there is the fresh blood, the new crew.
And for too long the White fans were accused of
not developing the youth and relying too much on the
talent of the current players. We can still rely on
that talent because they've shown us through World Cup t
twenty six this that they have still got what it takes.
(10:11):
This is the swan song for some of these athletes,
and I expect them to go out with a bang.
There are four debutantes coming into the side. So we've
got the youth, we've got the middle ground, we've got
the experience, and we've got a tournament that to me
fairly reflects the world of cricket. It is a round
robin tournament and at the end of it you've got
(10:34):
two semi finals and you've got a final that to
me is tournament cricket. The only bad thing about this
tournament all their games start late, and I'm going to
be up till six in the morning, So be it.
Go well, Ferns, go well.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Into the Chamber we go to kick around a few
sporting issues we've heard from Mills Mulliaina about the back three,
so I think we've covered off pretty well. There anything
else in the All Blacks twenty three that was named
that raised your eyebrows particularly does well.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
When they said they've made six changes, I thought that
seems like an awful lot. And then you look at
the team and go, it's actually not that many. Some
of them are forced. Does that make sense? It seems
like a lot, but it seems like there is actually
still consistency in there. Yet a couple of injuries so
they had to adjust. But I'm seeing something quite pleasant
from the All Blacks. They understand combinations, they understand the
(11:29):
relevance of continually being packed. I like what I see here,
so do I.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And you're right because it doesn't feel like six changes
when the second row is the same Scott Baron Tupor Vai,
the entire loose trio is the same Parker Savestiti, and
in midfield the same combination Jordi Barrett and Billy Proctor.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So you're right to us.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The combinations are being worked upon while there's tweaks elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I thought that maybe Caleb Clark might have pushed his
way into that side. I really did. But as we're
talking with Mells, theessue here is we've got changes already
on the wings. Do we want to make that many
changes on the wing because a guy out with bereavement
lever with Rico Yowanni you've got to blay his manage
(12:13):
to bugger his ribs in Nadawa. So maybe too much
change and they just didn't want to risk that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think that probably is a big part of it.
And look, let's not get away from the fact that
this will be another huge challenge for the All Blacks
on Saturday night because they're up against a South African
team that came here with every intention of winning both
Test matches and now they're staring down the barrel of
losing both Test matches. Another position I'm keen to get
your thoughts on is Hooker now SUMMERSONI Tokyaho boost onto
(12:43):
the scene two or three years ago and we all
thought he was going to be a massive force on
the Black Jersey and has been on occasion and might
still be. But he didn't start a single Test match
last year. He's starting on Saturday night in Wellington. Quite
a big night for SUMMERSAUNI.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I caught up with them last week. Thoroughly nice individual,
it must be said, but you don't remember this guy's experience.
He's in mid thirties now when it comes to tests,
so he's not comfortable in that role. He probably shouldn't
be there. So I have no problem with Summersony. I
just hope that he can get his line out straight.
I mean that's a key thing here because I know
(13:20):
the guy coming off the bench, Brody, he struggled with that.
Before you talk about core roles, that has got to
be a core role. You can run around the park
and run over people all you want, but you need
to scrumb and you need to deliver the ball and
some of the timber in that South African side maybe
be wary of this.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Just before we leave the All Blacks. So I just
want to give a shout out to Quintupia as well,
who was just putting together a nice little body of work,
either as a starting player, which he got the opportunity
against France and Hamilton, or off the bench. This is
the third consecutive Test match he'll come off the bench
to cover midfield. I thought when he came on last
week for Jordy Barrett's Hia and you know, and then
(14:00):
later on in the piece as well, just the way
that he conducts himself at the moment. I really like
the way that Quintupia was going about his business.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I thought you'd actually climb in to talk about
Ruben Love because this is great. Ruben's at home, he
knows the place, he knows the winds, and you need
to know that even though on a good day you
can't beat Wellington, but there is that when. But this
is great for Ruben Love. This guy's got that X factor.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He has indeed, and just a second opportunity of the
year as well after he also started that Test in Hamilton.
He's had to be patient through the last three, but yeah,
he'll get another run out on his home field on
Saturday night. We'll kick around some more of the All
Blacks issues tomorrow on the podcast, But can we move
to netball? As you said in the intro, it's hard
to unpack something we don't know a heck of a
(14:42):
lot about. But from the outside looking in, this seems
to be a very very curious decision to get rid
of probably our best ever Silver Fern's coach for reasons
that really aren't yet altogether clear. What's your thought process
around this?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
So you always say this, you create a vacuum, what happens,
it gets filled somehow, So it's being filled by everybody
in sport. They're all got a theory out on what's going.
I think the theory that appears to have attracted the
most interest is there are they talk about environment in
that press release? Plainly I would say that some of
(15:20):
the younger players in the side can't quite deal with
what Dame Nolen Todua is doing and they don't like it,
and they've had a bit of a winge and it's
just triggered on from there. And i'd suggest that it's
still going and everyone's been very very quiet, and no
one wants to breathe a word, and trust me, you
don't on the same as me, you'd be ringing everybody.
(15:40):
It's very very tight. And I've got to look at
this and think this doesn't look good for Dame Nolean
because it's easy to get rid of the coach, then
get rid of an entire team coming through. It seems
strange though, doesn't It So strange?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So strange, And I think the outpouring of support for
Dame Nolen Todua, mainly from you know, former players, because
you're right, nobody in the current environment's going to chat
about this because they're too close to it. But you
know when you hear or read Laura Lang and one
of our greats come out and talk about how this
is one of the saddest days in New Zealand netball history,
(16:15):
and Irene van Dyke adding her impetus to that, Mark Foster,
you know, Evonne willaring some big names in netball, albeit
from the past. And look where I don't think we're
dinosaurs enough Darcy to know that things can and must change.
But when you get high level support like that, it
makes you wonder about the decision making process that has
(16:36):
led us to this point.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, beside that trouble and we don't know exactly what
it is, we can have an idea, we can feel
that vacuum. The bigger thing here is you look at
Netball New Zealand and their ability to manage crisis and
you start questioning that. You can't not write now come
through a lot of recent times they've been taken a
bit of a beating right across the park and this
(16:58):
is just more load on top of them. You've got
to ask the capabilities around the brass at Netball New
Zealand do they actually know what they're doing and how
can deal with the problem right in front of them?
Because it doesn't look good currently.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Not at all. No, the current brass have not overseen
a period of particular glory in such a massive sport
for us, the sport of netball. You and I will
keep hitting the phones or our producers well to try
and get further comments and further insight into this, and
maybe we can update you twenty four hours from now
on the sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
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the sporting agenda.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
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