September 26, 2025 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 26th September 2025, Former Warriors captain Tohu Harris joins the podcast as the NRL gets to the pointy end.
Piney ponders whether Australia are able to end the All Blacks incredible run at Eden Park.
And D'Arcy and Piney are in the chamber to discuss whether North Harbour can defy the odds and get their first win of the year, in a Ranfurly Shield challenge against Otago.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there and welcome in so stop that I want
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Links podcast. I'm Darcy walded Grave. Thanks very much for
joining us, and thanks to DJ Gardenholmes, he Sound's most
trusted home builder for joining us. Sorry and take it over, Pieer.
Couldn't help myself get out O nine Pine.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We are an equal opportunities podcast and you have as
much right to be the first voice as I do.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Lovely to be here with your dars.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
On a Friday, Friday, the twenty sixth of September, with
an all Blacks test to look forward to tomorrow night, I
ran fully Shield Challenge for North Harbor, a couple of
NRL games and other bits and pieces to the Black
Ferns in a third and fourth place playoff at their
Rugby Worldcome.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
At the Silver Ferns. They're rocking on as well. On Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It does not stop as far as a sporting landscape
is concerned. We're going to try and cover off as
much of it as we can today.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
On this Spick's podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who was our guest today, I'll be speaking with Tohu Harris,
former Warriors skipper. You'll be talking about the almost unstoppable
runaway train, the juggernaut that is the storm. Can it
be slowed down tonight in the preliminary final and what
about the Panthers can do to the same trick? Up
begins to Brisbane come Sunday and also talk about a
(01:31):
big final invoting the Warriors. That the next team, the
second team, if you will, the new South Wales Cup team.
They are playing the final on Sunday, two Jays and.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
The latest and sports news too, So let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
In other news, let's get you underway as always, whether
a look at some of the big sports stories around today.
Oliver Welsh and Ben Taylor have won gold in the
men's pair at the Royal World Champs in Shanghai, holding
off Roman here by four point nine to eight seconds.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Two new names are written in the pantheon of New
Zealand greats. It's a very long talk.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, they're the first New Zealand men to complete the
feat since two time Olympic champions Eric Murray and Hamish
Boy Willaby's coach Joe Schmid has questioned any doom and
gloom verdicts about the All blacks immediate future as they
prepare for tomorrow's opening Letterslow Cup rugby test at Eden Park,
the home side coming off their heaviest defeat thirteen days
ago again South Africa in Wellington.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I think they're on the cusper breaking things open. I
know a lot of people will focus on the end result.
Sixty minutes in I was sitting there with Mike Cron
and Tom Donnelly. You know, two guys who spent time
playing or coaching the All Blacks, and we're all thinking
the games and the balance.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Former Black Caps coach Gary Stead is back on the
books of New Zealand Cricket. He's accepted a part time
high performance role tasked with supporting player and coach developments.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Opportunity allows me to, I guess work across the system
in men's and women's but also from under nineteen's up
to the international level as well, and hopefully share some
of my experiences and help young players.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Use and a Vinion It's Sports Fix with Jason Pine
and Dussy Walter.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Grave, Well welcome now to the former Warriors skipper to
Who Harris. As we look toward not only the semi
finals in the NRL, which is Yude starting tonight of course,
going through the weekend there's a small case of the
new South Wales Cup happening as well, involving the Warriors.
To long time no speak, I trust you.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Well yeah, now, very well, thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And how's the body. Now you've spent the best part
of a year not being tackled by people, you must
be feeling great.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Yeah, the rest of my body's feeling pretty good. Not
having to wake up soar or deal with the travel.
The rest is still the same. That's something I've pretty
much got to live with for the rest of my life.
But the rest of my body is very, very appreciative
of not being banged up every week.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
We've got a big game coming up tonight, and we've
got a big game coming up tonight with a bloke
called Jerome Hughes. He's got no right to be playing
and it looks like he's going to do a Cooper
Kronk and turn up and run the show. Now you've
played with Jerome back in the Storm days, What does
he bring? Why is he so important to have running
(04:13):
that Storm side when it comes to their success? What
does he bring?
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Oh, he's a threat every time he's on the field,
and I know he's probably not playing at one hundred percent,
but just his presence on the field is something that
the opposition, So the Sharks will have to know where
he is at all times. And if he is confident
enough to run the ball, like he's got a right footstep,
that's I guess cut up so many sides and he's
(04:37):
been doing it for years now, so yeah, his experience
in big games will help only help the Storm side,
and yeah, he's going to be a key figure in
the match.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
To night we're talking about this Afair Talhu. When you
look at the experience of finals football and how incredibly
important it is and that next level, what is it
about being there done that that sets teams up like
the Panthers, like the Storm and I suppose back in
the day the Broncos as well.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Because yeah, like everyone speaks about how the finals, when
you play in the finals, it's like different competition and
it is it's played at a different speed. The NRL
games already fast as it is it's physical, but the
finals is another level and when you've been there and
done that before and know what it takes to win,
(05:23):
that's crucial for teams who have those players who who
have experienced winning at that level before. And it's probably
a bit more crucial than just playing in it, because
there's a bit of a difference of playing finals footy
before and having success in finals. And you know those
two sides in particular, the Storm and Penrith, they've had
(05:43):
plenty of success and finals footy. That's what makes those
two sides so dangerous this time of the year is
they know what it takes to get across the line,
and they know what it takes to get through those
tough periods where they might be defending their line or
coming out of their own end set after set and
just getting through those hard periods and coming out the
(06:04):
other end.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is that the same with the coaching staff. You look
at Crazy Bellamy, I don't know how long he's been
coaching for now, huge success and of course Cleary on
the other side with the Panthers, these guys at a
coaching level also knows. Is that just as important that
coaching experience. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Absolutely, When you've been their time and time again. You
figure out what the best way to prepare is, how
to prepare their team for such a big game. And
like those two in particularly, they've been I think they're
in the top four last four teams in the competition
every single year for I don't know how many years,
(06:43):
and these prelim games are often the toughest games of
the year because it's the game to get into the
Grand Final and Grand Final. You're a lot of the
times you're running off adrenaline and excitement because you're playing
in the game that could win you the competition. So
the prelims, the step before that, it's often harder because
(07:05):
it's not quite the Grand Final, but it's that same intensity.
They just know how to prepare those teams. It's probably
second nature to those two at the moment. And yeah,
that's why I've got those two teams piggeds as meeting
in the Grand Final next week.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
As far as the lineups go, we've were touched on
the fact that the Drome is back equally important. Ryan
Papenhausen is back for the Storm as well. There's a
couple of guys back for the Sharks, but the effectiveness
of Pappenheus and out the back the Custodian if you
will so big, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Absolutely. Like the Sharks, I think it was a stat
the last three months they've had one of the best
defensive records and the competition and you need players that
can break teams open just then a split second and
those games when you're playing sides that are so good
defensively like the Sharks are, like Penrith, you need players
that can either bend the line or create something and nothing.
(08:04):
And that's what Pappenhausen can do. Him Jerome than Hughes,
Harry Grant and on the other side Adam Vanilla Blake.
He's someone who can do that is change the game
for your side and give your side momentum, which is
such a key, I guess, element of winning these games.
So it's going to be an exciting one Sports effects.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
On the fifteenth of August nineteen oh three, the All
Blacks played their very first Test match. The opponents Australia.
The venue the Sydney Cricket Ground, and the All Blacks,
led by the legendary Billy Wallace, ran out winners by
twenty two points to three one hundred and twenty two
years later tomorrow night, the one hundred and eightieth meeting
between these two nations. Just for the record, the All
(08:48):
Blacks have one hundred and twenty six wins to the
Wallaby's forty five eight matches drawn. The All Blacks have
won the last nine straight. The last time Australia beat
US November twenty twenty, when they won twenty four to
twenty two at sun Corpse Stadium. On this side of
the Tasman, Australia haven't beaten the All Blacks since two
thousand and one at Carisbrook. The thirty Test matches on
New Zealand in the time since that, twenty nine All
(09:10):
Blacks wins and a solitary draw sixteen all in Wellington
in October twenty twenty. You have to go all the
way back to September nineteen eighty six to find the
last time Australia beat the All Blacks at Eden Park
a late tried to David Campezy selling that win and famously,
of course, the last time anyone beat the All Blacks
and attest at Eden Park nineteen ninety four. Can these
(09:32):
two long standing All Blacks records? The Eden Park record
and the Bledisloe Cup record, which the All Blacks have
held since two thousand and three, come under threat tomorrow
night by a resurgent and reasonably confident Wallaby's side. I'm
going to say no for one main reason. The All
Blacks come into this game off the back of their
(09:53):
heaviest ever defeat, humbled forty three to ten by the
spring Box, just a fortnight ago. And after a loss
like that, to honor the legacy of the All Blacks jersey,
a response is expected, A response is demanded. A response
is compulsory, and that will outweigh any thought of Australia
coming to town and continuing the All Blacks misery. The
(10:16):
All Blacks rise to the occasion, and this is an
occasion and a night on which the All Blacks simply
cannot afford to lose.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
End of the Chamber. We go?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Shall I start it?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Would you like to know that's I've had my fun off?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You go knuck yourself out, don't make a mess of it,
though I'll try.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
My be Here we go, All Blacks against Australia tomorrow night,
Eden Park.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is that Tomorrow night or tomorrow evening. I'm still confused
by five o'clock kickoff? Is that evening or night?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
That's actually I think that five o'clock falls in that
sort of no man's land between afternoon and evening, doesn't it.
Let's just say later, later on tomorrow from five o'clock.
From five o'clock, other Wallabies a chance.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
At four dollars eighty or five dollars the tab writing
them off, and they genuinely know. I think that is dangerous,
and I talked about this yesterday. This to me is
called guilt insurance. You put twenty bucks on them at
five dollars to win, you never know. They've got some
stunning players that could tear the All Blacks to shreds.
(11:28):
In the back line. Let's not underestimate some of the players.
They've got Max Jorganson at fallback. We've got to Ali
as well. I mean, how's that for a player. So
they've got good players out there, and they've got a
guy running the cutter that's pretty familiar with New Zealand talent.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Right, Yeah, James O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
He knows all about the Crusaders and all about super rugby,
has played against all of these players in a championship
winning team in Red and Black earlier in the year.
The odds are interesting to me. I think they say
more about the All Blacks than the who are about
the Wallabies. You know, we know what sort of response
the All Blacks will demand of themselves after what happened
thirteen days ago in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Can we still say embarrassment or not?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think that it's humiliation, capitulation, use any adjective you
like to describe the performance. But what can be beyond
doubt is the fact that they want to respond. They're hurting,
they're stung, and history tells you that when the All
Blacks are wounded, they tend to respond brutally. And I
think that's what's going to happen tomorrow night. I think
(12:25):
that's why the odds the way they are. I'm not
saying that they're going to run away with it and
winning by thirty points, but I think the All Blacks
will win. However, Yeah, that little shred of me says
Australia aren't the whipping boys they have been in recent times,
using hold.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
On in New Zealand talent right. They've got Tom Donnelly
and they've got.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Mike Crome and.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's good still from the best. It's working out. He's
really regenerated this Australian team. When they play, they look
like they've got faith in themselves and trust in themselves
and that's what a good coach can do.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, and it's what Eddie Jones sort of dented. Really
he left them in a shamble star So you know
that you talk to any of those players and the
confidence hits they took from being coached, if you want
to call it that by Eddie Jones was palpable and
judgment's come in and it took him a while, as
it always does when you Inherit a bit of a mess.
(13:21):
But you look at it now and then you look
ahead a couple of years and you think, wow, this
team may well be setting themselves up for a decent
tilt at World Cup glory on their own fields in
twenty twenty seven. Jose Bit won't be there anymore, of course,
but he can lay the foundation, yes.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And he's watching this and of course Ossie's very smart.
They've tied Ozzie Joe up to the middle of next year,
so we can't even back again. The faith internal faith
with what the Wallabies can do and the way they've
gone back and this DNA they're playing eccelative rugby. I
don't even know if that's a word, but I'll use
a good word. And they've got from what I can
tell talking to Ossie pundits, they've actually started to get
(13:58):
back the hearts and the eyes and the minds of
the Australians. Ozzie's a great right. If you're losing, they'd
ignore you. If you're wanting to like where's over here?
If you're losing, we spend our time kicking you. And
if you want to determine and go, don't get too
fully yourself and then go back. I just don't want
to return to the glory days under it was it
Tane Randall. Five consecutive losses. I mean, we don't want
to see that again.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, we don't want ninety If you're listening, sorry, well
I've forgotten as well that we won the Bledislow Cup.
We New Zealand the All Blacks won the bledd Slow
Cup in two thousand and three. Australia had it for
the five years before that, ninety seven we had it
ninety eight that you just talked about where we lost
three Bledi Slow Cup games to the Wallabetes. They had
it from ninety eight all the way through to two
thousand and three. You know, I'm old enough. You're old
(14:40):
enough to remember a time when every Wallaby's All Blacks
Test match was a coin flip. You did not know
from test to test who was going to win. It
hasn't been that way necessarily in the last few years.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
No, it hasn't. And as I said before, I've wound
back and watched that legendary Athletic Park Test and that
was the kind of expectation they got blown off the part.
But they could do that as well. Back to us,
I want good competition. I think most rugby fans do,
don't they.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
They do.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
They want the Chairampionship to have meaning. And at the
moment I'll tell you what it does. There are four
nations standing there going we could we could take this.
So it's it's really good to have that energy as
opposed to the All Blacks are rolling everybody again.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Indeed, all right, hey, just before we leave the chamber,
Tartannucky White Cuttle, Southland, Canterbury, Otago, North Harbor, North.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Harbor, could they could they you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Think so traveling there, and then you look at what
they've achieved, if you can call it that at the
Auckland side. To me, how how good was last night?
Hawks pages pound into the dirt. I don't think anyone
saw that coming out was wow.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So maybe they can but that that loggerwood does funny
things to teams.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Right, I'd say that the home advantage for a target
will be huge. There's going to be a big crowd
there and they will be going nuts. They see the
reaction when they rolled Canterbury. I don't know how that
happened out of nowhere. I know we're down a man,
fifteen to go, let's roll Canterbury. Yeah whatever, bro Wow,
(16:15):
I mean wow. So I've had a lot of texts
you probably would have had as well, people going you
need to talk more about the shield, this regeneration of design.
It's been like this for a couple of years. But
you mentioned all those winners. The shield this year has
been Dynama.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It has and the motivation for Otago is if they
do fend off North Harbor tomorrow, they keep it for
the summer and that's a big thing because then you
can be a bit more relaxed about showing it around
and not being in this panic.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That cheap, as we might lose it in a few days,
we better get it out to everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So yeah, a really interesting shield challenge coming tomorrow as well.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Lots of good rugby and I'm just going to stop
you right there. Hey, a detail National League starts this
weekend too, but of football for you, the best of
the best. So we've gone, we've combined central and Northern
and southern and now it really starts to happen. I'll
tell you what football is in New Zealand. Don't get
a break, do they?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
No, they don't. They play a lot of football. And yeah,
by the time the Detel National League finishes up, what
will be sort of deep into November I think, and
then they'll be pre season again for next season or
some of them will you know, play bit of a
league or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So I know where your heart lies, pony.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Where's that any race cars this weekend?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Always race cars. I'll find something. I'll find a stream,
even if I just got to go and stand around
outside my home and grim meat and check out the
locals and their valiance.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
That's us on the chamber for today.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
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Speaker 4 (18:21):
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Speaker 3 (18:22):
We've got a five hour show tomorrow mid day to five. Well,
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Speaker 2 (18:27):
Afternoon to deeca areas. Have you ever done five hours
on air before? I'm not sure what will happen a
five past three, when I'm normally on.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The way home. But no, I'll carry on.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
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Speaker 2 (18:45):
And it's nearly daylight savings. So does that throw something
else into the next afternoon, day, late evening. I don't.
I don't even know. Why did I stop? Shall we
just leave now?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Goodbye?
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there and welcome in so stop that I want
to have a go. Hi, welcome on into the Sports
Links podcast. I'm Darcy walded Grave. Thanks very much for
joining us, and thanks to DJ Gardenholmes, he Sound's most
trusted home builder for joining us. Sorry and take it over, Pieer.
Couldn't help myself get out O nine Pine.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We are an equal opportunities podcast and you have as
much right to be the first voice as I do.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Lovely to be here with your dars.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
On a Friday, Friday, the twenty sixth of September, with
an all Blacks test to look forward to tomorrow night, I
ran fully Shield Challenge for North Harbor, a couple of
NRL games and other bits and pieces to the Black
Ferns in a third and fourth place playoff at their
Rugby Worldcome.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
At the Silver Ferns. They're rocking on as well. On Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It does not stop as far as a sporting landscape
is concerned. We're going to try and cover off as
much of it as we can today.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
On this Spick's podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who was our guest today, I'll be speaking with Tohu Harris,
former Warriors skipper. You'll be talking about the almost unstoppable
runaway train, the juggernaut that is the storm. Can it
be slowed down tonight in the preliminary final and what
about the Panthers can do to the same trick? Up
begins to Brisbane come Sunday and also talk about a
(01:31):
big final invoting the Warriors. That the next team, the
second team, if you will, the new South Wales Cup team.
They are playing the final on Sunday, two Jays and.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
The latest and sports news too, So let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
In other news, let's get you underway as always, whether
a look at some of the big sports stories around today.
Oliver Welsh and Ben Taylor have won gold in the
men's pair at the Royal World Champs in Shanghai, holding
off Roman here by four point nine to eight seconds.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Two new names are written in the pantheon of New
Zealand greats. It's a very long talk.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, they're the first New Zealand men to complete the
feat since two time Olympic champions Eric Murray and Hamish
Boy Willaby's coach Joe Schmid has questioned any doom and
gloom verdicts about the All blacks immediate future as they
prepare for tomorrow's opening Letterslow Cup rugby test at Eden Park,
the home side coming off their heaviest defeat thirteen days
ago again South Africa in Wellington.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I think they're on the cusper breaking things open. I
know a lot of people will focus on the end result.
Sixty minutes in I was sitting there with Mike Cron
and Tom Donnelly. You know, two guys who spent time
playing or coaching the All Blacks, and we're all thinking
the games and the balance.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Former Black Caps coach Gary Stead is back on the
books of New Zealand Cricket. He's accepted a part time
high performance role tasked with supporting player and coach developments.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Opportunity allows me to, I guess work across the system
in men's and women's but also from under nineteen's up
to the international level as well, and hopefully share some
of my experiences and help young players.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Use and a Vinion It's Sports Fix with Jason Pine
and Dussy Walter.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Grave, Well welcome now to the former Warriors skipper to
Who Harris. As we look toward not only the semi
finals in the NRL, which is Yude starting tonight of course,
going through the weekend there's a small case of the
new South Wales Cup happening as well, involving the Warriors.
To long time no speak, I trust you.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Well yeah, now, very well, thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And how's the body. Now you've spent the best part
of a year not being tackled by people, you must
be feeling great.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Yeah, the rest of my body's feeling pretty good. Not
having to wake up soar or deal with the travel.
The rest is still the same. That's something I've pretty
much got to live with for the rest of my life.
But the rest of my body is very, very appreciative
of not being banged up every week.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
We've got a big game coming up tonight, and we've
got a big game coming up tonight with a bloke
called Jerome Hughes. He's got no right to be playing
and it looks like he's going to do a Cooper
Kronk and turn up and run the show. Now you've
played with Jerome back in the Storm days, What does
he bring? Why is he so important to have running
(04:13):
that Storm side when it comes to their success? What
does he bring?
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Oh, he's a threat every time he's on the field,
and I know he's probably not playing at one hundred percent,
but just his presence on the field is something that
the opposition, So the Sharks will have to know where
he is at all times. And if he is confident
enough to run the ball, like he's got a right footstep,
that's I guess cut up so many sides and he's
(04:37):
been doing it for years now, so yeah, his experience
in big games will help only help the Storm side,
and yeah, he's going to be a key figure in
the match.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
To night we're talking about this Afair Talhu. When you
look at the experience of finals football and how incredibly
important it is and that next level, what is it
about being there done that that sets teams up like
the Panthers, like the Storm and I suppose back in
the day the Broncos as well.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Because yeah, like everyone speaks about how the finals, when
you play in the finals, it's like different competition and
it is it's played at a different speed. The NRL
games already fast as it is it's physical, but the
finals is another level and when you've been there and
done that before and know what it takes to win,
(05:23):
that's crucial for teams who have those players who who
have experienced winning at that level before. And it's probably
a bit more crucial than just playing in it, because
there's a bit of a difference of playing finals footy
before and having success in finals. And you know those
two sides in particular, the Storm and Penrith, they've had
(05:43):
plenty of success and finals footy. That's what makes those
two sides so dangerous this time of the year is
they know what it takes to get across the line,
and they know what it takes to get through those
tough periods where they might be defending their line or
coming out of their own end set after set and
just getting through those hard periods and coming out the
(06:04):
other end.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is that the same with the coaching staff. You look
at Crazy Bellamy, I don't know how long he's been
coaching for now, huge success and of course Cleary on
the other side with the Panthers, these guys at a
coaching level also knows. Is that just as important that
coaching experience. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Absolutely, When you've been their time and time again. You
figure out what the best way to prepare is, how
to prepare their team for such a big game. And
like those two in particularly, they've been I think they're
in the top four last four teams in the competition
every single year for I don't know how many years,
(06:43):
and these prelim games are often the toughest games of
the year because it's the game to get into the
Grand Final and Grand Final. You're a lot of the
times you're running off adrenaline and excitement because you're playing
in the game that could win you the competition. So
the prelims, the step before that, it's often harder because
(07:05):
it's not quite the Grand Final, but it's that same intensity.
They just know how to prepare those teams. It's probably
second nature to those two at the moment. And yeah,
that's why I've got those two teams piggeds as meeting
in the Grand Final next week.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
As far as the lineups go, we've were touched on
the fact that the Drome is back equally important. Ryan
Papenhausen is back for the Storm as well. There's a
couple of guys back for the Sharks, but the effectiveness
of Pappenheus and out the back the Custodian if you
will so big, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Absolutely. Like the Sharks, I think it was a stat
the last three months they've had one of the best
defensive records and the competition and you need players that
can break teams open just then a split second and
those games when you're playing sides that are so good
defensively like the Sharks are, like Penrith, you need players
that can either bend the line or create something and nothing.
(08:04):
And that's what Pappenhausen can do. Him Jerome than Hughes,
Harry Grant and on the other side Adam Vanilla Blake.
He's someone who can do that is change the game
for your side and give your side momentum, which is
such a key, I guess, element of winning these games.
So it's going to be an exciting one Sports effects.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
On the fifteenth of August nineteen oh three, the All
Blacks played their very first Test match. The opponents Australia.
The venue the Sydney Cricket Ground, and the All Blacks,
led by the legendary Billy Wallace, ran out winners by
twenty two points to three one hundred and twenty two
years later tomorrow night, the one hundred and eightieth meeting
between these two nations. Just for the record, the All
(08:48):
Blacks have one hundred and twenty six wins to the
Wallaby's forty five eight matches drawn. The All Blacks have
won the last nine straight. The last time Australia beat
US November twenty twenty, when they won twenty four to
twenty two at sun Corpse Stadium. On this side of
the Tasman, Australia haven't beaten the All Blacks since two
thousand and one at Carisbrook. The thirty Test matches on
New Zealand in the time since that, twenty nine All
(09:10):
Blacks wins and a solitary draw sixteen all in Wellington
in October twenty twenty. You have to go all the
way back to September nineteen eighty six to find the
last time Australia beat the All Blacks at Eden Park
a late tried to David Campezy selling that win and famously,
of course, the last time anyone beat the All Blacks
and attest at Eden Park nineteen ninety four. Can these
(09:32):
two long standing All Blacks records? The Eden Park record
and the Bledisloe Cup record, which the All Blacks have
held since two thousand and three, come under threat tomorrow
night by a resurgent and reasonably confident Wallaby's side. I'm
going to say no for one main reason. The All
Blacks come into this game off the back of their
(09:53):
heaviest ever defeat, humbled forty three to ten by the
spring Box, just a fortnight ago. And after a loss
like that, to honor the legacy of the All Blacks jersey,
a response is expected, A response is demanded. A response
is compulsory, and that will outweigh any thought of Australia
coming to town and continuing the All Blacks misery. The
(10:16):
All Blacks rise to the occasion, and this is an
occasion and a night on which the All Blacks simply
cannot afford to lose.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
End of the Chamber. We go?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Shall I start it?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Would you like to know that's I've had my fun off?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You go knuck yourself out, don't make a mess of it,
though I'll try.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
My be Here we go, All Blacks against Australia tomorrow night,
Eden Park.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is that Tomorrow night or tomorrow evening. I'm still confused
by five o'clock kickoff? Is that evening or night?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
That's actually I think that five o'clock falls in that
sort of no man's land between afternoon and evening, doesn't it.
Let's just say later, later on tomorrow from five o'clock.
From five o'clock, other Wallabies a chance.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
At four dollars eighty or five dollars the tab writing
them off, and they genuinely know. I think that is dangerous,
and I talked about this yesterday. This to me is
called guilt insurance. You put twenty bucks on them at
five dollars to win, you never know. They've got some
stunning players that could tear the All Blacks to shreds.
(11:28):
In the back line. Let's not underestimate some of the players.
They've got Max Jorganson at fallback. We've got to Ali
as well. I mean, how's that for a player. So
they've got good players out there, and they've got a
guy running the cutter that's pretty familiar with New Zealand talent.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Right, Yeah, James O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
He knows all about the Crusaders and all about super rugby,
has played against all of these players in a championship
winning team in Red and Black earlier in the year.
The odds are interesting to me. I think they say
more about the All Blacks than the who are about
the Wallabies. You know, we know what sort of response
the All Blacks will demand of themselves after what happened
thirteen days ago in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Can we still say embarrassment or not?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think that it's humiliation, capitulation, use any adjective you
like to describe the performance. But what can be beyond
doubt is the fact that they want to respond. They're hurting,
they're stung, and history tells you that when the All
Blacks are wounded, they tend to respond brutally. And I
think that's what's going to happen tomorrow night. I think
(12:25):
that's why the odds the way they are. I'm not
saying that they're going to run away with it and
winning by thirty points, but I think the All Blacks
will win. However, Yeah, that little shred of me says
Australia aren't the whipping boys they have been in recent times,
using hold.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
On in New Zealand talent right. They've got Tom Donnelly
and they've got.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Mike Crome and.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's good still from the best. It's working out. He's
really regenerated this Australian team. When they play, they look
like they've got faith in themselves and trust in themselves
and that's what a good coach can do.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, and it's what Eddie Jones sort of dented. Really
he left them in a shamble star So you know
that you talk to any of those players and the
confidence hits they took from being coached, if you want
to call it that by Eddie Jones was palpable and
judgment's come in and it took him a while, as
it always does when you Inherit a bit of a mess.
(13:21):
But you look at it now and then you look
ahead a couple of years and you think, wow, this
team may well be setting themselves up for a decent
tilt at World Cup glory on their own fields in
twenty twenty seven. Jose Bit won't be there anymore, of course,
but he can lay the foundation, yes.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And he's watching this and of course Ossie's very smart.
They've tied Ozzie Joe up to the middle of next year,
so we can't even back again. The faith internal faith
with what the Wallabies can do and the way they've
gone back and this DNA they're playing eccelative rugby. I
don't even know if that's a word, but I'll use
a good word. And they've got from what I can
tell talking to Ossie pundits, they've actually started to get
(13:58):
back the hearts and the eyes and the minds of
the Australians. Ozzie's a great right. If you're losing, they'd
ignore you. If you're wanting to like where's over here?
If you're losing, we spend our time kicking you. And
if you want to determine and go, don't get too
fully yourself and then go back. I just don't want
to return to the glory days under it was it
Tane Randall. Five consecutive losses. I mean, we don't want
to see that again.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, we don't want ninety If you're listening, sorry, well
I've forgotten as well that we won the Bledislow Cup.
We New Zealand the All Blacks won the bledd Slow
Cup in two thousand and three. Australia had it for
the five years before that, ninety seven we had it
ninety eight that you just talked about where we lost
three Bledi Slow Cup games to the Wallabetes. They had
it from ninety eight all the way through to two
thousand and three. You know, I'm old enough. You're old
(14:40):
enough to remember a time when every Wallaby's All Blacks
Test match was a coin flip. You did not know
from test to test who was going to win. It
hasn't been that way necessarily in the last few years.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
No, it hasn't. And as I said before, I've wound
back and watched that legendary Athletic Park Test and that
was the kind of expectation they got blown off the part.
But they could do that as well. Back to us,
I want good competition. I think most rugby fans do,
don't they.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
They do.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
They want the Chairampionship to have meaning. And at the
moment I'll tell you what it does. There are four
nations standing there going we could we could take this.
So it's it's really good to have that energy as
opposed to the All Blacks are rolling everybody again.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Indeed, all right, hey, just before we leave the chamber,
Tartannucky White Cuttle, Southland, Canterbury, Otago, North Harbor, North.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Harbor, could they could they you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Think so traveling there, and then you look at what
they've achieved, if you can call it that at the
Auckland side. To me, how how good was last night?
Hawks pages pound into the dirt. I don't think anyone
saw that coming out was wow.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So maybe they can but that that loggerwood does funny
things to teams.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Right, I'd say that the home advantage for a target
will be huge. There's going to be a big crowd
there and they will be going nuts. They see the
reaction when they rolled Canterbury. I don't know how that
happened out of nowhere. I know we're down a man,
fifteen to go, let's roll Canterbury. Yeah whatever, bro Wow,
(16:15):
I mean wow. So I've had a lot of texts
you probably would have had as well, people going you
need to talk more about the shield, this regeneration of design.
It's been like this for a couple of years. But
you mentioned all those winners. The shield this year has
been Dynama.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It has and the motivation for Otago is if they
do fend off North Harbor tomorrow, they keep it for
the summer and that's a big thing because then you
can be a bit more relaxed about showing it around
and not being in this panic.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That cheap, as we might lose it in a few days,
we better get it out to everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So yeah, a really interesting shield challenge coming tomorrow as well.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Lots of good rugby and I'm just going to stop
you right there. Hey, a detail National League starts this
weekend too, but of football for you, the best of
the best. So we've gone, we've combined central and Northern
and southern and now it really starts to happen. I'll
tell you what football is in New Zealand. Don't get
a break, do they?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
No, they don't. They play a lot of football. And yeah,
by the time the Detel National League finishes up, what
will be sort of deep into November I think, and
then they'll be pre season again for next season or
some of them will you know, play bit of a
league or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So I know where your heart lies, pony.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Where's that any race cars this weekend?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Always race cars. I'll find something. I'll find a stream,
even if I just got to go and stand around
outside my home and grim meat and check out the
locals and their valiance.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
That's us on the chamber for today.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
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Speaker 3 (17:42):
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Speaker 4 (18:10):
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Speaker 4 (18:21):
Can I just tell you a bit of a plug here.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
We've got a five hour show tomorrow mid day to five. Well,
a five o'clock kickoff is an.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Afternoon to deeca areas. Have you ever done five hours
on air before? I'm not sure what will happen a
five past three, when I'm normally on.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The way home. But no, I'll carry on.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But but yeah, so we'll do a five hour build
up towards if it's an afternoon kickoff, an evening kickoff,
it's a five past five kickoff, we'll get you there
from mid day to five tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And it's nearly daylight savings. So does that throw something
else into the next afternoon, day, late evening. I don't.
I don't even know. Why did I stop? Shall we
just leave now?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Goodbye?
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