October 2, 2025 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for 3rd October 2025, the All Blacks and the Wallabies are all set for battle tomorrow night in the final round of the Rugby Championship, with all the marbles still to play for. D'Arcy spoke with former Wallabie Justin Harrison to preview the matchup.
Piney shared his thoughts on the current depth of the All Blacks squad under Scott Robertson
And D'Arcy and Piney discuss the All Blacks team selected to take on the Wallabies, how they think Liam Lawson will go this weekend at the Singapore Grand Prix, and the NRL Grand Final.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Be hello there and welcome into the back end of
the Monday to Friday working week, to the front end
of another busy sporting weekend, and into the latest edition
of the Sports Fix podcast in association with GJ. Gardner Holmes,
New Zealand's most trusted homebuilder. I'm Jason Pine alongside my
good mate I.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Am see Walter Grave. Still here, still rolling, still looking
ahead to sport over the weekend. It doesn't matter how
long you do this for pinety, it's still excites it
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It does. Fridays yeah, among my favorite days of the week.
Certainly my favorite day that isn't a weekend day and
a big couple of days to look forward to. I
want to talk to you about Liam Lawson in the
latest Grand Prix event in Singapore. Have I got that right, singer?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
The one that's the one the night race at.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Singapore, When I get your veal on that. Also the
All Blacksic Wallabies tomorrow night in the nrl G Grand
Final two. In terms of a guest today who we're
hearing from.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We've got that great, big lurching lump and I can
say this, well, I think I can anyway, because I've
not met him face to face the moment we had
a schooner together, he might have a problem with it.
Justin Harrison Lot from the Wallabies back in the early
two thousands, joins us to talk about this weekend's test.
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, I can't wait for that, and the latest and
sports news as well come in your way, so let's
get into it. In other news, let's get things going
with a look at some of the sports stories round today.
Or Black's coach Scott robertson expecting Peter Larky to pose
some questions for the Wallabies in what will be his
first key start tomorrow night. Like I was at number
eight and one of seven changes to the New Zealand
(01:50):
side having played three times off the bench.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
He's great. He took his opportunity the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We just feel like this sort of game, the way
he hunts and how he plays in his skill set,
will tem to start and good chance for Willie to
come off and make an impact.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So we're pleased for Peters, he's ready.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Liam Lawson's hopeful he'll again be in the fight for
points at the Singapore Grand Prix this weekend, after claiming
a career best fifth in Baku last month.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
It's not necessarily the quickest of the midfield sometimes, but
it's specially been very very consistent across all the races,
always fighting for Q threes and we hope that's the
case this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And under fire, Nottingham Forest football boss and Pasta Cooglu
has addressed his sides fans calling for him to be
sacked following another defeat they've lost three to at home
in the Europa League to Daniel Side mitchelland their fans.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
They want to see their team win and they're entitled
to their opinion.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Nothing's arising here for bullying. There's no hiding in the sport.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
We're in use and a Vinion. It's Sportsfix with Jason
Pine and Dussy Walter Grave.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We're talking rugby what else here on Sports Fixed podcast,
Right here, right now. Former Wallaby lock now broadcaster Justin
Harrison joins us as we preview the fun and games
in Perth A Justin, I'm so happy because there's more
rugby on even though it's very late for Kiwe audiences.
(03:10):
But it's the Championship's been What's been amazing, hasn't it.
You must sit and look at this being a former player,
going this is what the rugby Championship should be?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely? I mean how good is everyone is
leaning forward across all of the participants. There's uncertainty of
result every weekend. Anyone can beat anyone. There's some great
rugby high execution skill. Was seeing players and fans really
swept up in the in the engine and now Perth
right sold out op to stadium. Over eighty thousand people
are going to be witnessing. You know what is the
(03:42):
an iconic class New Zealand Australia Wallabies versus the All
Blacks doesn't get any better.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Across the field? Is there an area a team to
underbelly of this Wallaby's team that can be exposed? Same
with the All Blacks? Where are they vulnerable? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Justin k I think putting the All Blacks in the
house a doubt as quickly as possible. We've heard you know,
this team, this Wallaby team, they're talking about wanting to
start better and wanting to start fast. It doesn't necessarily
mean an avalanche of points, but they want to get
control of the match sooner than mounting comebacks and having
school board pressure. And I think for the All Blacks,
(04:18):
if they start to see a scoreboard get away from
them or keep track with them in the first twenty minutes,
then they will start to sort of look left and
right there. Look, you know, there's been some changes in
the team. There's been some uncertainly around selection. There is
some pressure from outside, you know, media, The head coach
is under some pressure. You know, those sorts of things
can culminate into one or two things on the field,
(04:40):
and the Wallabies can take advantage of that. Now that's
the skill. You've got to take advantage of errors and
things that you can remind the team about their sort
of doubt. You know, the All Blacks are undoubtedly, you know,
one of the best teams in the world. There's no way,
you know, I don't think I don't buy into the
retric that the All Blacks are in a form slub.
I just feel that the TRC now everyone else is
(05:03):
coming up to that level and it's a much much
more even playing field and the room for error and
the margin for errors are much more, much more finite now.
And you know, if you're going to talk about the world,
I'd love to see our back line, you know, truly unlocked.
We've got some attacking geniuses and that in that side,
you know, Max Jorgenson, Joseph Sualiti, you know Lenny Katell.
(05:26):
You know we get Tane Edmond in at ten. That's
that's that's something that i'd really like to see us
exploit because we know we've got the firepou on the forwards.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
As someone found Joseph so Elity from last week because
I thought he disappeared.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Look, you know, sometimes sometimes look sometimes games games don't
allow them, will allow you a chance to get into it.
And you know, you sort of the notion of going
and getting a game or letting the game come to you.
You've also got to produce a game plan or strategy
that gets players into the game early. So you know,
when you talk about wanting to start faster, shorten up
(06:02):
all your passes, get some strong carries around the corner
from the forwards. You know, it's a couple of quick
taps and get a couple of double cuts out to
SULEI give him an early touch, give him an early
mismatch or an early chance to feel like he's in
the game. Get the first carry out of the way.
You know, that's probably what they're looking at. Get everyone
to touch, everyone gets a shot on, everyone, gets a
hand on a black jersey and reminds them that they're
(06:23):
there to play rugby and they're going to have to
play well to get across the gold jersey. That's the
sort of sort of tactics that we want to see.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Weaponry. You've invited some brilliant players back from one big
follow to another. Will Skelton, what does he bring to
this engagement?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
He brings presence, doesn't he rights for he arrives. He's
a huge man. He's a galvanizer. You know, when you're
in the change room and you're about to run out
and represent your country, you're nervous. Absolutely. You look around
the room for people that you know you can count
on when things go wrong or right. You know they're
not going to take a backward step and they're going
(07:02):
to put themselves in harms way for you, and you've
got confidence from that person. He's absolutely one of those
there's people. Keep him on the edge of your periphery
all of the time. You know, you take the field
and you know that you've got an extra step in
you because he's the one that's going to push you through.
He's that sort of effect on the team. It's wonderful.
He's put himself, you know, on a plane come back
from top fourteen and he's you know, the employment relationship
(07:25):
over there. He's showing everyone around him how much it
means to him to wear this gold jersey and that
has a big effect on everyone else.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you think Harry Wilson would carry on as Harry
Wilson does because he was right up in the line
and over it and you'd know a wee bit about that,
wouldn't you. Justin Harrison, he's not going to stop, is he?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
How good is he? I mean, he's the sort of
bug you just want to He's the sort of captain
you want to play for. You look at big barrel
chested country boy. You know, you know he's having a
row and coke and a steak when he's not playing rugby.
You're training hard. But when he's on the paddock he
gives everything of himself and some more. You know, his
game management now is improved he's definitely having some better
interaction with officials as well. That is that that is
a role that he's warming into. But jes he's a
(08:06):
doing leader. He'll he'll roll roley sleeves up and rip
in in his combination with Fraser mcrides is one of
the best background combinations in the world. Now, Bobby Valentini
coming off the bench, you know there's plenty of excitement
in this group.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's sportsfex with Jason Vine.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
The selection of Leicester Feightinguku in the All Black side
to face Australia tomorrow night makes him the forty third
player to feature in nine test matches for the All
Blacks this year. Now, by way of contrast, just forty
two players one fewer featured in the entire fourteen test
year in twenty twenty four. It also means that in
his eighteen months in charge, Scott Robertson has now used
(08:48):
fifty five different players in the All Blacks. Now, if
you look at his catchphrase four four four four deep
in every position over four years to win a fourth
Rugby World Cup, you have to say he's giving it
a decent crack of those fifty five players. Just four
have left or are leaving, Sam Caine, TJ Petted, Harry
(09:08):
Plummer and Mark Talaya. The other fifty one, with the
exception probably of Finlay Christi, who's looking set to leave
by all reports, should be in contention for the next
World Cup. That's fifty players plus a few players who
are contracted past this year who Raiser hasn't even used, Hoskins, Setutu,
Branden enaw Angus Tatavo among them. Now, in some positions
(09:30):
the depth is looking good. Eight props have been used,
six locks and a current quartet of Scott Barrett, Fabi
and Holland to Purvai and Patrick Tuwey Pilottu, which is
very strong. Six very strong midfield back options, and that
doesn't include Riko Yowani. Nine different guys in the back
three and ten different loose forwards, five half backs and
(09:51):
five hookers have been given a run. Worryingly, though, in
those positions the best Cody Taylor and Cam Royguard are
some way ahead of the next best in their role.
The one glaring position where depth has not been built
is a fairly important one. First five, only Boden, Barrett
and Damien McKenzie have started at ten under Razor McKenzie
(10:15):
eleven times, ten of those last year, and Barrett eleven times,
including seven of the eight Test matches this year. With
Boden Barrett injured this week, our first five depth would
be severely tested if McKenzie was to go down. Reuben
Love's the only other first five in the squad and
he's very inexperienced in that jumper, even at super level.
(10:36):
Maybe that's why Race is so keen to tempt Richie
Moore Wonger back Chiefs pivot. Josh Jacob is the next
one probably and hopefully he goes on the Northern Tour
to make four in that position if you include mu
Wonga plus Love, who's more of a ten to fifteen utility.
If you're going to build depth and give things a go,
the first two years of a four year World Cup
(10:56):
cycle is when you do that. All Blacks coaches are
often criticized for not giving players opportunities. That's one thing
you certainly cannot accuse Razor off.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
The chamber is no in session on Sportsfex.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And to the Chamber we venture for a few sporting thoughts.
Great to hear from Justin Harrison, we haven't had the
chance you and I'd asked to talk about the selection
of the team, because that happened after where you got
the podcast out yesterday. Be fair to say that there
are some talking points in the selection what peat your
interest the most?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And they're always talking points when it comes to the
all Black teams. I think more so of recent times
as Scott Robinson tries to work out what his best
team is and how he develops because that's his job.
He's got a four year contract and he's got a
couple of years to developers team and then hone it
ahead of the World Cup. For me, when I looked
at the team, I went straight to Quintupire coming in
(11:51):
in the center role. I'm interested in that selection. I'm
interested in why Billy Proctor got moved to one side.
But to me that's a big and of course there
are another hulking lump out on the left wing in
Lester Fagnuku. There's a couple of interesting selections and ze
Quin's here, I mean, my name's sake wiped them out
a few years ago. But has he come back or
(12:12):
what's taken a couple of years? But now even out
of position. This is a man I'm really looking forward
to seeing.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh, say, man, in the last four test matches he's
come off the bench and in all of them performed
very very well. I think he's almost put his hand
up so high that it can't be ignored anymore. Look,
you know, we regard him as a twelve mainly for
the Chief sand previously for the All Blacks, but you know,
twelve thirteen, I guess they have similar principles. So very
much looking forward to seeing that. The other thing you
(12:39):
talked about there is building depth and working out who
your best team is moving forward. If you're going to
build depth and give things a go, surely the first
two years of a four year World Cup cycles when
you do that, and Razor, if we count Lester now
as a participant on the weekend, will have used fifty
five players. Do see fifty five players in his eighteen
(13:01):
months in charge. That is building depth, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
That's crazy? Fifty five I wouldn't have pecked it. Will
it work though? Because you got so many ingredients and
do you get confused about what you've got access to?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, that's a very good point actually, because of the
fifty five. Obviously, only twenty three can play on any
given day. Only thirty odd can be in a World
Cup's quite look. I like the idea of trying things out,
but at some point, and I guess this happens, maybe
next year, you start to land, and you start to crystallize,
and you start to filter some out and you land
on a core group of I don't know, thirty thirty
five players. Let's say who we're going to take you forward?
(13:39):
The one position does that depth hasn't been built first five.
Only Boden Barrett and Damien mackenzie have started in the
ten jersey. During the twenty two soon to be twenty
three Test matches, Rays has been in charge. That is
the one position where he hasn't given things a go.
He's stuck to those two guys.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Urago maybe, but look, Reuben Love. I don't think anyone
would have seen Reuben Love coming in and starting at
first five up against the Wallabies. But the sorely tempted
to do that because he's the future and Muwang is
a good player, great player arguably, but it is see
(14:23):
the future of the site that this is the first
five debate. It's huge either pivot there the many run
the show.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Indeed, yeah, so lots to look forward to tomorrow night,
the final Rugby Championship Test of the year before they
head off to Ireland, Scotland, England, Wales, Island of course
in Chicago and the other three in their in their
home nations to back county.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Is a Grand Slam? Does that count? Do we go
back to the hail sea in days of Graham Murray?
Is it that count even though one's in like Chicago
or Yah? Yeah, you bet.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You beat the four traditional home nations. You want a
Grand Slam, don't you? There?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You go? I think so we'll run with it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
We've decided Singapore Grand Prix underlights. Liam Lawson had his
best ever finished in Baku. What what what's your you know,
what's your gut telling you about how he'll go this weekend.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
He's got a lot of pressure on him planing because
there's more and more conversations around what happens next. The
latest one is that Avid Lindblood is the next guy
to come and he'll be having a racing ball seat.
Ye'd expect he'd take that role because we've got the
young Frenchman who was going to go up to the
(15:30):
next ever to rebel Yuki Sonoda will go. But there's
still a lot of horse trading going on there as
I get it. So he had that in the back
of his mind, but as we've seen, he's got the
ability to cut that out. And what he put on
the ground at Baku was stunning and that says I
can do this. I deserve to be here. And it
wasn't just the qualifying pony. It was the way he
(15:52):
handles his card during the race. It was his exit
speed in the corner. It's the way he used the
electricity and extra power and how he managed to keep
that train of cars behind him. That was a drive
for the ages. For Liam Lawson. It was a drive
of maturity. It was a drive of professionalist. It was
a drive that we all know that he's got. So
(16:15):
there's so much.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
More for him.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But what he's got to deal with in Singapore be
it with me, sorry to go on, you started this, mate,
not me. What is what he's got to deal with
in Singapore is the heat. Apparently it's going to be
an absolute cooker there and if I have looked at
that and go we've got concerns around the heats of
this particular Grand Prix and how we're going to deal
with that. So, how they deal with a sweatbox. I
(16:38):
got no idea.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
What even at night it's hot. Yeah, man, it's just
the one. Did you go up to this race? Have
I completely made this up? Have you been to this race?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I haven't been to this race. So I've got no money.
If anyone's keen on tucking me fifty cents, I'll go
and have a look as well, because it's been the
home of some quite astonishing races. I think it was.
It was back in Crazy Start Nelson p k Jr.
It was the one where he followed team orders and
and drove in to the side of someone in order
(17:10):
to attempt to get his teammate further up the ladder.
Eventually got caught. That was horrible. You probably don't remember that,
Nelson Pico. That was awful. There's also a Mad Start
back in twenty seventeen. I wanted to say when two
Ferraris in a red Bull collided before the first corner.
There's a lot on this, but it's the heat and
(17:30):
how that works with the tirest strategy that I'm really
interested in.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right, what a summary. I need to jump it
at all.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I didn't need to jump in there.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
No, I no, no, and forgive me, but I did.
I forget Isaac Hudge's name, and that's just because you
know he's living rent free. In my head, is the
guy that's going to take the Red Bull. I hope
he gets that Red Bull drive because no one wants
to drive that second car.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Absolutely not practice, then qualifying, then the race itself, Singapore
Grand Prix very quickly, NRL Grand Final Sunday night. Who
you got Storm Broncos.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Storm because they've been there, done that. But but the
Broncos did something none of us thought could happen last week.
And this Penrith team don't lose nomal situations like that,
and they did. Where are you learning? You start summarizing.
I've been dominating this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Now I've got the Broncos. I've got the Broncos given
exactly what you've said, plus the previous week or was
it two weeks before when they just came from nowhere
to beat the Raiders, you know, the minor premiers and
dramatic circumstances. One of the best games of rugby league
you'll ever hope to see then, as you say, beat
the Panthers and from fourteen kneel down. Let's not forget
(18:39):
to us. I've got the Broncos in this game. I
know the storm as you say, I've been there, done that.
Craig Bellamy knows how to know how to win grand
finals as a coach. But yeah, something just tells me
it could be the Broncos. H Look, one thing I'm
absolutely sure of. I'm not going to miss the game.
I think it'll be a terrific Grand Final, won't it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It'd be huge And not only that it's all Broncos
because the WNBL they got a Broncos team in there.
And also in the New South Wales Cut, well that's
actually not it's New South Wales Cup be Queensland Cup
the final there of course the wars are playing in
that and they're playing up against the Burly Bears, so
it's very much a Queensland weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And so well they can have the last two. I
want the Warriors to win the State Championship final, which
is undera I think about twenty past three Sunday afternoon,
New Zealand time. Looking forward to seeing if this team
that's been so good all year can put a nice
little cherry on.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Top, and we're all talked Sorry, I gotta start, I
got to add something. I have to do this. What
will Reese walshpring Because I think the spine is better
with Melbourne, But Reese Walsh has got that ability to
be rocks and diamonds all at the same time. So
whatever he presents could be key in the outcome of
this game.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, X factor and moments of magic sometimes pivotal and
mad and brand Finals madness as well, madness as well.
We're all talked out in the chamber. Let's get out.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Be hello there and welcome into the back end of
the Monday to Friday working week, to the front end
of another busy sporting weekend, and into the latest edition
of the Sports Fix podcast in association with GJ. Gardner Holmes,
New Zealand's most trusted homebuilder. I'm Jason Pine alongside my
good mate I.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Am see Walter Grave. Still here, still rolling, still looking
ahead to sport over the weekend. It doesn't matter how
long you do this for pinety, it's still excites it
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It does. Fridays yeah, among my favorite days of the week.
Certainly my favorite day that isn't a weekend day and
a big couple of days to look forward to. I
want to talk to you about Liam Lawson in the
latest Grand Prix event in Singapore. Have I got that right, singer?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
The one that's the one the night race at.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Singapore, When I get your veal on that. Also the
All Blacksic Wallabies tomorrow night in the nrl G Grand
Final two. In terms of a guest today who we're
hearing from.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We've got that great, big lurching lump and I can
say this, well, I think I can anyway, because I've
not met him face to face the moment we had
a schooner together, he might have a problem with it.
Justin Harrison Lot from the Wallabies back in the early
two thousands, joins us to talk about this weekend's test.
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, I can't wait for that, and the latest and
sports news as well come in your way, so let's
get into it. In other news, let's get things going
with a look at some of the sports stories round today.
Or Black's coach Scott robertson expecting Peter Larky to pose
some questions for the Wallabies in what will be his
first key start tomorrow night. Like I was at number
eight and one of seven changes to the New Zealand
(01:50):
side having played three times off the bench.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
He's great. He took his opportunity the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We just feel like this sort of game, the way
he hunts and how he plays in his skill set,
will tem to start and good chance for Willie to
come off and make an impact.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So we're pleased for Peters, he's ready.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Liam Lawson's hopeful he'll again be in the fight for
points at the Singapore Grand Prix this weekend, after claiming
a career best fifth in Baku last month.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
It's not necessarily the quickest of the midfield sometimes, but
it's specially been very very consistent across all the races,
always fighting for Q threes and we hope that's the
case this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And under fire, Nottingham Forest football boss and Pasta Cooglu
has addressed his sides fans calling for him to be
sacked following another defeat they've lost three to at home
in the Europa League to Daniel Side mitchelland their fans.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
They want to see their team win and they're entitled
to their opinion.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Nothing's arising here for bullying. There's no hiding in the sport.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
We're in use and a Vinion. It's Sportsfix with Jason
Pine and Dussy Walter Grave.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We're talking rugby what else here on Sports Fixed podcast,
Right here, right now. Former Wallaby lock now broadcaster Justin
Harrison joins us as we preview the fun and games
in Perth A Justin, I'm so happy because there's more
rugby on even though it's very late for Kiwe audiences.
(03:10):
But it's the Championship's been What's been amazing, hasn't it.
You must sit and look at this being a former player,
going this is what the rugby Championship should be?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely? I mean how good is everyone is
leaning forward across all of the participants. There's uncertainty of
result every weekend. Anyone can beat anyone. There's some great
rugby high execution skill. Was seeing players and fans really
swept up in the in the engine and now Perth
right sold out op to stadium. Over eighty thousand people
are going to be witnessing. You know what is the
(03:42):
an iconic class New Zealand Australia Wallabies versus the All
Blacks doesn't get any better.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Across the field? Is there an area a team to
underbelly of this Wallaby's team that can be exposed? Same
with the All Blacks? Where are they vulnerable? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Justin k I think putting the All Blacks in the
house a doubt as quickly as possible. We've heard you know,
this team, this Wallaby team, they're talking about wanting to
start better and wanting to start fast. It doesn't necessarily
mean an avalanche of points, but they want to get
control of the match sooner than mounting comebacks and having
school board pressure. And I think for the All Blacks,
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if they start to see a scoreboard get away from
them or keep track with them in the first twenty minutes,
then they will start to sort of look left and
right there. Look, you know, there's been some changes in
the team. There's been some uncertainly around selection. There is
some pressure from outside, you know, media, The head coach
is under some pressure. You know, those sorts of things
can culminate into one or two things on the field,
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and the Wallabies can take advantage of that. Now that's
the skill. You've got to take advantage of errors and
things that you can remind the team about their sort
of doubt. You know, the All Blacks are undoubtedly, you know,
one of the best teams in the world. There's no way,
you know, I don't think I don't buy into the
retric that the All Blacks are in a form slub.
I just feel that the TRC now everyone else is
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coming up to that level and it's a much much
more even playing field and the room for error and
the margin for errors are much more, much more finite now.
And you know, if you're going to talk about the world,
I'd love to see our back line, you know, truly unlocked.
We've got some attacking geniuses and that in that side,
you know, Max Jorgenson, Joseph Sualiti, you know Lenny Katell.
(05:26):
You know we get Tane Edmond in at ten. That's
that's that's something that i'd really like to see us
exploit because we know we've got the firepou on the forwards.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
As someone found Joseph so Elity from last week because
I thought he disappeared.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Look, you know, sometimes sometimes look sometimes games games don't
allow them, will allow you a chance to get into it.
And you know, you sort of the notion of going
and getting a game or letting the game come to you.
You've also got to produce a game plan or strategy
that gets players into the game early. So you know,
when you talk about wanting to start faster, shorten up
(06:02):
all your passes, get some strong carries around the corner
from the forwards. You know, it's a couple of quick
taps and get a couple of double cuts out to
SULEI give him an early touch, give him an early
mismatch or an early chance to feel like he's in
the game. Get the first carry out of the way.
You know, that's probably what they're looking at. Get everyone
to touch, everyone gets a shot on, everyone, gets a
hand on a black jersey and reminds them that they're
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there to play rugby and they're going to have to
play well to get across the gold jersey. That's the
sort of sort of tactics that we want to see.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Weaponry. You've invited some brilliant players back from one big
follow to another. Will Skelton, what does he bring to
this engagement?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
He brings presence, doesn't he rights for he arrives. He's
a huge man. He's a galvanizer. You know, when you're
in the change room and you're about to run out
and represent your country, you're nervous. Absolutely. You look around
the room for people that you know you can count
on when things go wrong or right. You know they're
not going to take a backward step and they're going
(07:02):
to put themselves in harms way for you, and you've
got confidence from that person. He's absolutely one of those
there's people. Keep him on the edge of your periphery
all of the time. You know, you take the field
and you know that you've got an extra step in
you because he's the one that's going to push you through.
He's that sort of effect on the team. It's wonderful.
He's put himself, you know, on a plane come back
from top fourteen and he's you know, the employment relationship
(07:25):
over there. He's showing everyone around him how much it
means to him to wear this gold jersey and that
has a big effect on everyone else.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you think Harry Wilson would carry on as Harry
Wilson does because he was right up in the line
and over it and you'd know a wee bit about that,
wouldn't you. Justin Harrison, he's not going to stop, is he?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
How good is he? I mean, he's the sort of
bug you just want to He's the sort of captain
you want to play for. You look at big barrel
chested country boy. You know, you know he's having a
row and coke and a steak when he's not playing rugby.
You're training hard. But when he's on the paddock he
gives everything of himself and some more. You know, his
game management now is improved he's definitely having some better
interaction with officials as well. That is that that is
a role that he's warming into. But jes he's a
(08:06):
doing leader. He'll he'll roll roley sleeves up and rip
in in his combination with Fraser mcrides is one of
the best background combinations in the world. Now, Bobby Valentini
coming off the bench, you know there's plenty of excitement
in this group.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's sportsfex with Jason Vine.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
The selection of Leicester Feightinguku in the All Black side
to face Australia tomorrow night makes him the forty third
player to feature in nine test matches for the All
Blacks this year. Now, by way of contrast, just forty
two players one fewer featured in the entire fourteen test
year in twenty twenty four. It also means that in
his eighteen months in charge, Scott Robertson has now used
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fifty five different players in the All Blacks. Now, if
you look at his catchphrase four four four four deep
in every position over four years to win a fourth
Rugby World Cup, you have to say he's giving it
a decent crack of those fifty five players. Just four
have left or are leaving, Sam Caine, TJ Petted, Harry
(09:08):
Plummer and Mark Talaya. The other fifty one, with the
exception probably of Finlay Christi, who's looking set to leave
by all reports, should be in contention for the next
World Cup. That's fifty players plus a few players who
are contracted past this year who Raiser hasn't even used, Hoskins, Setutu,
Branden enaw Angus Tatavo among them. Now, in some positions
(09:30):
the depth is looking good. Eight props have been used,
six locks and a current quartet of Scott Barrett, Fabi
and Holland to Purvai and Patrick Tuwey Pilottu, which is
very strong. Six very strong midfield back options, and that
doesn't include Riko Yowani. Nine different guys in the back
three and ten different loose forwards, five half backs and
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five hookers have been given a run. Worryingly, though, in
those positions the best Cody Taylor and Cam Royguard are
some way ahead of the next best in their role.
The one glaring position where depth has not been built
is a fairly important one. First five, only Boden, Barrett
and Damien McKenzie have started at ten under Razor McKenzie
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eleven times, ten of those last year, and Barrett eleven times,
including seven of the eight Test matches this year. With
Boden Barrett injured this week, our first five depth would
be severely tested if McKenzie was to go down. Reuben
Love's the only other first five in the squad and
he's very inexperienced in that jumper, even at super level.
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Maybe that's why Race is so keen to tempt Richie
Moore Wonger back Chiefs pivot. Josh Jacob is the next
one probably and hopefully he goes on the Northern Tour
to make four in that position if you include mu
Wonga plus Love, who's more of a ten to fifteen utility.
If you're going to build depth and give things a go,
the first two years of a four year World Cup
(10:56):
cycle is when you do that. All Blacks coaches are
often criticized for not giving players opportunities. That's one thing
you certainly cannot accuse Razor off.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
The chamber is no in session on Sportsfex.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And to the Chamber we venture for a few sporting thoughts.
Great to hear from Justin Harrison, we haven't had the
chance you and I'd asked to talk about the selection
of the team, because that happened after where you got
the podcast out yesterday. Be fair to say that there
are some talking points in the selection what peat your
interest the most?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And they're always talking points when it comes to the
all Black teams. I think more so of recent times
as Scott Robinson tries to work out what his best
team is and how he develops because that's his job.
He's got a four year contract and he's got a
couple of years to developers team and then hone it
ahead of the World Cup. For me, when I looked
at the team, I went straight to Quintupire coming in
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in the center role. I'm interested in that selection. I'm
interested in why Billy Proctor got moved to one side.
But to me that's a big and of course there
are another hulking lump out on the left wing in
Lester Fagnuku. There's a couple of interesting selections and ze
Quin's here, I mean, my name's sake wiped them out
a few years ago. But has he come back or
(12:12):
what's taken a couple of years? But now even out
of position. This is a man I'm really looking forward
to seeing.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh, say, man, in the last four test matches he's
come off the bench and in all of them performed
very very well. I think he's almost put his hand
up so high that it can't be ignored anymore. Look,
you know, we regard him as a twelve mainly for
the Chief sand previously for the All Blacks, but you know,
twelve thirteen, I guess they have similar principles. So very
much looking forward to seeing that. The other thing you
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talked about there is building depth and working out who
your best team is moving forward. If you're going to
build depth and give things a go, surely the first
two years of a four year World Cup cycles when
you do that, and Razor, if we count Lester now
as a participant on the weekend, will have used fifty
five players. Do see fifty five players in his eighteen
(13:01):
months in charge. That is building depth, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
That's crazy? Fifty five I wouldn't have pecked it. Will
it work though? Because you got so many ingredients and
do you get confused about what you've got access to?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, that's a very good point actually, because of the
fifty five. Obviously, only twenty three can play on any
given day. Only thirty odd can be in a World
Cup's quite look. I like the idea of trying things out,
but at some point, and I guess this happens, maybe
next year, you start to land, and you start to crystallize,
and you start to filter some out and you land
on a core group of I don't know, thirty thirty
five players. Let's say who we're going to take you forward?
(13:39):
The one position does that depth hasn't been built first five.
Only Boden Barrett and Damien mackenzie have started in the
ten jersey. During the twenty two soon to be twenty
three Test matches, Rays has been in charge. That is
the one position where he hasn't given things a go.
He's stuck to those two guys.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Urago maybe, but look, Reuben Love. I don't think anyone
would have seen Reuben Love coming in and starting at
first five up against the Wallabies. But the sorely tempted
to do that because he's the future and Muwang is
a good player, great player arguably, but it is see
(14:23):
the future of the site that this is the first
five debate. It's huge either pivot there the many run
the show.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Indeed, yeah, so lots to look forward to tomorrow night,
the final Rugby Championship Test of the year before they
head off to Ireland, Scotland, England, Wales, Island of course
in Chicago and the other three in their in their
home nations to back county.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Is a Grand Slam? Does that count? Do we go
back to the hail sea in days of Graham Murray?
Is it that count even though one's in like Chicago
or Yah? Yeah, you bet.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You beat the four traditional home nations. You want a
Grand Slam, don't you? There?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You go? I think so we'll run with it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
We've decided Singapore Grand Prix underlights. Liam Lawson had his
best ever finished in Baku. What what what's your you know,
what's your gut telling you about how he'll go this weekend.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
He's got a lot of pressure on him planing because
there's more and more conversations around what happens next. The
latest one is that Avid Lindblood is the next guy
to come and he'll be having a racing ball seat.
Ye'd expect he'd take that role because we've got the
young Frenchman who was going to go up to the
(15:30):
next ever to rebel Yuki Sonoda will go. But there's
still a lot of horse trading going on there as
I get it. So he had that in the back
of his mind, but as we've seen, he's got the
ability to cut that out. And what he put on
the ground at Baku was stunning and that says I
can do this. I deserve to be here. And it
wasn't just the qualifying pony. It was the way he
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handles his card during the race. It was his exit
speed in the corner. It's the way he used the
electricity and extra power and how he managed to keep
that train of cars behind him. That was a drive
for the ages. For Liam Lawson. It was a drive
of maturity. It was a drive of professionalist. It was
a drive that we all know that he's got. So
(16:15):
there's so much.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
More for him.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But what he's got to deal with in Singapore be
it with me, sorry to go on, you started this, mate,
not me. What is what he's got to deal with
in Singapore is the heat. Apparently it's going to be
an absolute cooker there and if I have looked at
that and go we've got concerns around the heats of
this particular Grand Prix and how we're going to deal
with that. So, how they deal with a sweatbox. I
(16:38):
got no idea.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
What even at night it's hot. Yeah, man, it's just
the one. Did you go up to this race? Have
I completely made this up? Have you been to this race?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I haven't been to this race. So I've got no money.
If anyone's keen on tucking me fifty cents, I'll go
and have a look as well, because it's been the
home of some quite astonishing races. I think it was.
It was back in Crazy Start Nelson p k Jr.
It was the one where he followed team orders and
and drove in to the side of someone in order
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to attempt to get his teammate further up the ladder.
Eventually got caught. That was horrible. You probably don't remember that,
Nelson Pico. That was awful. There's also a Mad Start
back in twenty seventeen. I wanted to say when two
Ferraris in a red Bull collided before the first corner.
There's a lot on this, but it's the heat and
(17:30):
how that works with the tirest strategy that I'm really
interested in.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right, what a summary. I need to jump it
at all.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I didn't need to jump in there.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
No, I no, no, and forgive me, but I did.
I forget Isaac Hudge's name, and that's just because you
know he's living rent free. In my head, is the
guy that's going to take the Red Bull. I hope
he gets that Red Bull drive because no one wants
to drive that second car.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Absolutely not practice, then qualifying, then the race itself, Singapore
Grand Prix very quickly, NRL Grand Final Sunday night. Who
you got Storm Broncos.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Storm because they've been there, done that. But but the
Broncos did something none of us thought could happen last week.
And this Penrith team don't lose nomal situations like that,
and they did. Where are you learning? You start summarizing.
I've been dominating this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Now I've got the Broncos. I've got the Broncos given
exactly what you've said, plus the previous week or was
it two weeks before when they just came from nowhere
to beat the Raiders, you know, the minor premiers and
dramatic circumstances. One of the best games of rugby league
you'll ever hope to see then, as you say, beat
the Panthers and from fourteen kneel down. Let's not forget
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to us. I've got the Broncos in this game. I
know the storm as you say, I've been there, done that.
Craig Bellamy knows how to know how to win grand
finals as a coach. But yeah, something just tells me
it could be the Broncos. H Look, one thing I'm
absolutely sure of. I'm not going to miss the game.
I think it'll be a terrific Grand Final, won't it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It'd be huge And not only that it's all Broncos
because the WNBL they got a Broncos team in there.
And also in the New South Wales Cut, well that's
actually not it's New South Wales Cup be Queensland Cup
the final there of course the wars are playing in
that and they're playing up against the Burly Bears, so
it's very much a Queensland weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And so well they can have the last two. I
want the Warriors to win the State Championship final, which
is undera I think about twenty past three Sunday afternoon,
New Zealand time. Looking forward to seeing if this team
that's been so good all year can put a nice
little cherry on.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Top, and we're all talked Sorry, I gotta start, I
got to add something. I have to do this. What
will Reese walshpring Because I think the spine is better
with Melbourne, But Reese Walsh has got that ability to
be rocks and diamonds all at the same time. So
whatever he presents could be key in the outcome of
this game.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, X factor and moments of magic sometimes pivotal and
mad and brand Finals madness as well, madness as well.
We're all talked out in the chamber. Let's get out.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
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Speaker 3 (20:01):
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