November 11, 2025 • 21 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 12th November 2025, the final match of the Black Caps T20 series against the West Indies is happening tomorrow, with the Black Caps currently leading the series 2-1. Kyle Jamieson is a fast bowler for the Black Caps and he caught up with D'Arcy to discuss the series so far.
D'Arcy shares his thoughts on the Breakers' early season woes.
And D'Arcy and Newstalk ZB sports news director Clay Wilson discuss the upcoming All Blacks test against England and whether the West Indies can carry their form from the T20 series into the rest of the tour against the Black Caps.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome on end to the Sports Fox podcast. Great gat
of you on board Manamus Darcy walled over. There's a Wednesday.
It's the twelfth of No Been Be twenty twenty five.
Get u see the JJ Gardner Homes, New Zealand's most
trusted home builder. This is all you need to know
about sports today and bite size packages lined up for you.
We're going to be talking with Kyle Jankison ahead of
(00:42):
tomorrow's final T twenty International up against the West Indies,
the chances that they can do it again and what
happens for the rest of the series, Odie Eyes and Tests.
I'm contractually obliged to provide you with an opinion and
I shall. It's all over the woes of the New
Zealand Breakers and joining us to the Chamber Director of
(01:04):
Sport for News Talks MB, mister Klay Wilson, as we
look at the big sports stories of the day. That
is our plan. So let's hit go and run with
it baby. In other news, in today's oral contribution from
the Pantheon of Sport. All the existing coach at Jason
Ryan is all about growth for everyone, a Shane Carter
(01:27):
once saying, for dinner, all that is up to now
is all evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I think I've evolved immensely, to be fair, and I
think we have as well, and some good areas of
our game. We've got a little bit of confidence into
the moment, which is pleasing, but by no means we
sat aside if we were at it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Turns sharpshired Grace Wicker towered above the Scots defense during
the series that in New Zealand secured at two nil
overnight after pumping the Celts eighty forty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
If anything, that small defensive unit can prove quite challenging
for the tallest shooters. You know, got a few calls
there for contact which you know he's never hit or there,
but definitely a challenger jumping to the thigh.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Then the movement and the colors. Sokarrath is rolling through
the ATP finals. He got shaken a bit, but he
did overcome the threat from Taylor Fritz after falling a
set down to the American world number one Spaniard though
as now two from.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Two that's Monday. If it is two hours through hours,
you have to be really focusing on every point.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That makes really.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Difficult to play against the top.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
So in the beginning for the march or even in
the match, you've got to be really focusing player. Your
best Dady is see if you want to be done.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They said it, we hit record and that's Sport Today,
use and apion.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's Sportsfix with Dancie.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Valdegreve and it's a warm up. Welcome now to Kyle Jamison,
big man out of the black Caps ahead of the
fifth and final T twenty International, which is happening tomorrow.
We hope what's the weather looking like in Dunedin Kyle,
and welcome.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Thanks for having me. Yeah, I think it's actually looking
all right. So yeah, fingers crossed for you the game
and you have had another good cracking game that we've
had sort of, I guess for the most part of
the series.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's been a mad series so far. I don't think
anyone could have predicted what happened. Has been all over
the show like a mad woman's I won't even carry
on with that, but it's been it's been very exciting
to watch. Must be quite stressful to play though, Kyle.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yeah, Yeah, it has been. It's been very excited obviously.
You know, I've had pretty much close flinches and all
the games. So I think that the nature of obviously
of T twenty cricket, but especially at these smaller grounds,
is that you're never really out of it, you know.
I guess, I guess for either side. It's sort of
showed now in the first game we were sort of
down and out and then Matts gross pretty close, and
then some of the big boys got them pretty close
(03:49):
in the next couple. So yeah, has certainly been exciting,
and it's been I guess probably in a good way.
Nice to get some pressure situations for us as a
group leading into what's to come.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, well what's to come? I there's a World Cup
up around the corner. I think it's squad that initial
squads to to be announced after this. You've got any
idea about your involvement in that at all?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
To even let you know, I haven't heard anything, So
I'm just I'm not too sure, but yeah, I'm sure. Obviously,
just been the last series before they've got to name
something or get named in the little in the suppose
the next little bit, but we've just got to try
and lock them tomorrow, I guess, and try and look away.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This series tell us about what you've been up to
the ball. You've been involved in the last well, no
one was involved pretty much sure of the rain in
the last one. But you've you've gone through I think
ups and downs, mercurial. What's been happened with your bowling?
How do you think you'll present to be critical yourself, Kyle?
I know you can.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean I probably hasn't necessarily been perfect or
what I would have liked, but I still kind of
feel like in terms of over the last sort of month,
like there's been lots of lots of good stuff and
stuff that I can sort of take and learn from
and move forward. It's just now I just trying to
piece it all together. And I suppose probably probably the
same for a few boys at the moment is just
(05:10):
trying to piece it all together. But that's just the
nature of like his professional sport, really kind of going
through ups and downs and trying to work things out
and rediscover things and just hold you know, just hold
the hold the line. A little bit on some stuff too,
so hopefully hopefully we can get to click to.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
My really enjoyed the fact that there a whole founds
of fast balls out there. Now, it's not just a
case there's one or two and when they break, we're
in all sorts of trouble. They're everywhere, mate, It's like
they're being bred and they've all been playing very good cricket.
That competition internally a little stressful, but welcomed on.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Presuming, Yeah, I suppose so, I mean, it's not something
that we tend to think about a huge amount. I'm like,
I'm sure from the outside that feels like there's probably
a lot of competition for spots and pressure in that
sort of sense, but not really from from within as suppose.
It's just you're just trying to do do your best
with what you're kind of got in front of you,
and you kind of can't really control all the other stuff.
(06:08):
So whilst it's probably nice for a robin for match
to have all these different options and guys coming in
and out, it's just I guess as a player, you
kind of just trying to focus on the next game
and what that role may be and trying to learn
from it to move forward.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They talk about when New Zealand cricket do anyway, and
then we won't go into what's happening with t twenties
in the franchises because you guys don't know a great
deal about that. But what's worked with Super Smashes. You've
trained up a whole of the guys who appeared to
be able to fall seamlessly into position if required for
the national side. That is a huge positive for the
(06:41):
Super Smash because I suppose when guys walk in the
shit to go, oh it's you again, Oh I played you,
and everybody just jels. It's very much a team, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yeah, massively, So I think the I think, obviously you
mentioned the Super Smash, I think domestic cricket in general
is just really really strong at the moment. It's off
the back of probably the last ten years with having
a having a strong international side, and so guys have
had to sort of buy their time a little bit
and learn their craft and in domestic cricket. But you know,
I think I think those competitions, especially the Super Smashers,
(07:10):
are as strong as a lot of those comps around
the world. It's probably doesn't get the recognition that deserves
and like you said, guys can kind of sort of
come into the international sort of set up pretty seamlessly
and you know, and able to I guess contribute in
some way.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
How's your carcass, Kyle Jamison, how are you feeling? Because
you're carrying around quite the reg and it does come
with its own set of issues if what you well
know that, But where you're at right now, what have
you done, what have you changed if anything to help
continue I suppose continue playing at that top level.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Yeah, Yeah, it's been a good and obviously available for
selections that's always a good start. Yeah, it's obviously been
a pretty pretty sort of relentless last sort of month
or a month or sting into the scheduling sort of
feels like you're playing sort of every second day or
you know, or doing something in that and that sort
of realm. And yeah, but bodies body's feeling all right
and just getting some miles in the legs and and
(08:04):
building up and all that sort of stuff. So yeah,
just just being sort of I guess available for selections always.
Nice Off was back at the last last few.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Years dissecting the sporting agenda it's sportsfex with Dancy Waldgrave.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
At what stage do you blame the coach for the
woes of the team. Normally it's a reasonably easy decision
because it's a lot less stressful for everybody concerned if
one person steps down as opposed to a whole lot
of the team, that the buck stops with the coach.
(08:41):
And after last year, I think we could be safe
to say that the head coach of the New Zealander Breakers,
Terry coopen and was on shaky ground, but he got
the gig for this season, and he's got a roster
that's full of very good players, very experienced players at
(09:01):
a national level and an international level as well. So
what an earth is going wrong? And how long does
it take before his demise is triggered by yet another
terrible performance. Kareem Lopez fantastic young player. Sam and Ninger, Wow,
that guy's been a star so far. Parker Jackson Cartwright
(09:23):
is quality a. Zia Brockingham is fantastic, Max Darling, Rob Low, Taylor,
Brad Rubin de Rangi. There are a lot of good
players out there for this side, but they have failed
dismally right the way through the season. Tonight they take
on Brisbane in Brisbane and they'll be looking to pick
(09:45):
their season up again. It is the Ignit Cup. It's
a bit of frill, a bit of tinsel on the
side of the NBL regular season, but it's not the
focus of this side. This side they've got to learn
how to put teams away and not stumble at the
last it maybe, but Terrek Coppin can take some advice
(10:08):
from Scott Robertson after his team's troubles in the last
twenty minutes, which they appear to have turned around right now.
So is it the players or is it the coach?
Record wise over this year and last year, you'd have
to point at to Teddy Copenan and say this is
(10:29):
the problem. I don't like blame storming, but what I
hate more than blame storming is a team that I
love behaving like a dumpster fire. They're stinking the joint
up and it's depressing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Were joined a chamber now by head of Sport for
News Talk z Be. His name is Clay Wilson, and
we're going to talk to Clay and welcome on into
the chamber. Predominantly about the All Blacks. English team is out,
The All Blacks team is coming up around the corner.
All roads lead to twicken them, right, This is the
(11:08):
Grand Slam, isn't it. I'm saying that now, and they'll
beat them and then they'll fall over to Wales.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Well I was going to say, is this the Grand Slam?
Right here? You know, the way the Welsh team has
been going these past couple of years, you look at
it and you say this is the last real test.
You shouldn't. I mean, it would be an utter calamity
to lose to Wales, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
How many calamities of this all Black team dealt with
in the last three or four years.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
So yeah, I mean, I guess a big loss to
South Africa is bad. I lost to Argentina isn't great.
But given the record of this Welsh team and the
current standing it has, I think that would top them
all if they were to fall over even over there.
You know, I think Argentina put forty odd points on
(11:56):
Wales in the last week or two, so it kind
of shows you where they're at, very much in a
rebuilding kind of stage, a new coach on board, so
you look at this England during you say you win
that and that what it would be sixth, seventh, eighth
Grand Slam. It's kind of secured all but all, barring
(12:18):
a disaster in Cardiff.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Could the English win? That's a big thing. They did
well up against the Fijians. They've had a couple of changes,
the teams out nice and early. Where's the strength of
the side, do you think?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, I think very much so. I mean, obviously played
Fiji last weekend, ended up winning by about twenty odd points,
but the game is quite close for three quarters of
an hour, and I think that that's a little bit
of a credit to Fiji and you know, a team
that is capable of pushing these top teams great A
and Super Rabia's really held for a good you know,
(12:53):
three quarters two thirds of a game and England laid
it on them in the last twenty minutes. Now, some
people will say, well, that's what England should do to Fiji,
and you're probably right to an extent, but I think
it goes to show that there are weapons there for England.
They do certainly pose a threat and I think you know,
on the face of it, outside of Ireland and you know,
(13:16):
they were kind of coming off quite a long layoff,
won't they, and you know, traveling to Chicago all that
kind of thing, whereas England at home at Twickenham seemed
to have some rhythm behind them. Now this really sort
of jumps out as the most dangerous of the four fixtures.
So I think the way this All Black team has
(13:36):
gone this year, that's the thing you look at, isn't it.
It's kind of been so up and down it's hard
to trust that what we saw in that last you know,
that first kind of sixty minutes, or the good parts
of the Scottish performance, the good parts of the Irish performance,
Will we see that over enough of a span to
beat England or is it going to be an off
week and England are gonna you know, like I say,
(13:58):
I have a bit of rhythm behind them and turn
the All Blacks over, because that wouldn't be a while.
It's not the result I'm necessarily expecting, is my number
one prediction. I don't think it would be a surprise
to me. I'm not sure about if you think that
would be a would you be shocked to see the
All Blacks blues to England?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I guess no. Well, the English have got range on
their mind, haven't they. They keep getting touched up of
recent times by the All Blacks. They an't like that.
They don't want that happening at home. I'm interested in
what they do as far as man pals concerned. Gregor Paul,
what a great piece he's in a herald today basically
pleading with Razor robertson, don't start with Damien McKenzie, stick
(14:39):
him on the bench and talking about the tendency of
the South Africans and other teams to go. It is
not a fifteen man game. It is a twenty three
man game. Do you think you'll carry that? Do you
see that happen? Because what McKenzie does off the bench,
I don't know if anyone else can do that. Why
move him? Right?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I think it's a very good point. You know, we
saw the akelles here or excuse me, of the All
Blacks last season was that last phase of the game,
and you can see they've really put some thought into
how they approach these last quarters and in terms of
selection and what they look at, not just with someone
(15:20):
like Damien McKenzie, but with the whole you know, the
whole eight man bench. Some players that maybe, yes, you
would think in a normal world might start, but you
look at an opposition or just the way rugby has
played these days, you're better to have certain players coming off.
I mean, you look at Wallace a tit what he's
perhaps done in that role a little bit as well
in terms of a forward. But I tend to agree
(15:41):
if Boden Barrett is fit, he starts at ten, Will
Jordan as your best fullback and Damien McKenzie. The skills,
the talents, the natural gifts he has to me are
best utilized in the last twenty minutes of a game
against a tiring defense. That speed, that ability to read
a defense, to find the holes, to play that off
(16:03):
the cuff Rugby. He's really, you know, one of, if
not the best at his best, you know, ugly the
best player in the world in that kind of way.
And we saw that against Scotland, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, I got to Mikey Williams as well. I thought
he'd get a start, but when you bring that monster
in towards the end of the game, huge effect that
he has. The other twist in the selection is what
do they do with that loose Ford treo. I'm presuming
that would Satiki come off the bench and they're going
to start with spa Simon park On expars his nickname
(16:36):
is that the likely selection and Barrett the skipper who
rolls straight back an again, providing he's okay, and I
believe he is.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, And I think you know one of those locks
that's played so well in the last you know, one
and a half for you know, mostly two fixtures. Of course,
Barrett come off early against Ireland. Josh Lord and Fabian
Holland have both done a great job, Josh Lord particularly,
you know, stepping up and really really doing putting in
two great performances, so you think he's the likely one
(17:04):
to drop out Scott Barrett comes in and then the
loose forwards as a hard one. I think you look
at Ardie Severe as a lock at seven. I think
Peter Lackey has done enough at eight to show that
you wouldn't change him. That there's some you want to
keep some continuity there. It's really around that number six
Jersey and what they do. And to me, I think
you know someone like Wallace a Titi, he does lend
(17:28):
himself to being a great option of the bench, doesn't
he not that he hasn't done well as a starting player,
and they may well go down that route again. But
that that that's an interesting a toss up for me
about like you say, whether they they put Parker in
that six jersey and bring Satiti off the bench, or
say Stiti's our man, we want him, we want him
on the field for as long as possible, and put
him in in the starting role. But certainly some interest
(17:51):
and also some interest around what they do with Caleb
Clark now being out. Of course, Leicester Fying and Niokers
come into the midfield, done such a great job, do
they do they now bump them back out to the
wing and would have.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Been more terrifying out there. And and Billy Proctor that's
another key to set.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
On the Brown's fit again. Yeah, Rico Joanni in the squad,
although you probably wouldn't see that given he's a bit
out of favor. But yeah, just when Lester has got
a couple of games in the midfield and looked really good,
they've lost Caleb Clark and perhaps your next best option
maybe is to is to put Lester back out on
that wing and fill the void in the midfield.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Just quickly we've got the fifth and final will be
the fourth because the fourth one didn't really happen. T
twenty I West Indies versus the Black Apps in Dunedin.
It's been jacking on high. It's been a crazy, crazy series,
so entertaining edgy a seat stuff. Will that form be
carried on? Do you think by the West Indies? So
(18:54):
they've been written off at the start of this tour,
they've proved they've got something about them white ball cricket,
odie eyes. Can they do anything Test cricket? What goes on?
They set themselves up? Or am I dreaming? Well?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think perhaps they've been more competed of across these
first three T twenties than people gave them credit for.
I do thing to think with cricket and any sport
in general, the shorter of the format, the more of
a leveler it is, right, the less scope there is
for for the for the better team to show that
they are the better team. So you move through to
(19:27):
one day is my expectation is that you would hope
that the Black Caps have more of a margin and
then into the Tests even more so. But yeah, in
white ball cricket, the way it's played these days.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's white T twenty on steroids, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That's the way it's become. That's what T twenty has
done to white ball cricket and in term what it's
done to test cricket. But so yes, perhaps you know
they might nab one or two of these these one
day games. I've certainly got the firepower with the batting
that they could do it. But I think as the
game gets longer in terms of the format, you would
(20:06):
you would expect, anyway from from a New Zealand p
that the black Caps have a bit more time to
show and prove that they are the better team on
paper and that they'll they'll sort of they'll be able
to prevail.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And on that Clay Wilson, back to your desk and
go hard, my friend. Thanks very much for your time
and experts. He says, does use a billion.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome on end to the Sports Fox podcast. Great gat
of you on board Manamus Darcy walled over. There's a Wednesday.
It's the twelfth of No Been Be twenty twenty five.
Get u see the JJ Gardner Homes, New Zealand's most
trusted home builder. This is all you need to know
about sports today and bite size packages lined up for you.
We're going to be talking with Kyle Jankison ahead of
(00:42):
tomorrow's final T twenty International up against the West Indies,
the chances that they can do it again and what
happens for the rest of the series, Odie Eyes and Tests.
I'm contractually obliged to provide you with an opinion and
I shall. It's all over the woes of the New
Zealand Breakers and joining us to the Chamber Director of
(01:04):
Sport for News Talks MB, mister Klay Wilson, as we
look at the big sports stories of the day. That
is our plan. So let's hit go and run with
it baby. In other news, in today's oral contribution from
the Pantheon of Sport. All the existing coach at Jason
Ryan is all about growth for everyone, a Shane Carter
(01:27):
once saying, for dinner, all that is up to now
is all evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I think I've evolved immensely, to be fair, and I
think we have as well, and some good areas of
our game. We've got a little bit of confidence into
the moment, which is pleasing, but by no means we
sat aside if we were at it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Turns sharpshired Grace Wicker towered above the Scots defense during
the series that in New Zealand secured at two nil
overnight after pumping the Celts eighty forty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
If anything, that small defensive unit can prove quite challenging
for the tallest shooters. You know, got a few calls
there for contact which you know he's never hit or there,
but definitely a challenger jumping to the thigh.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Then the movement and the colors. Sokarrath is rolling through
the ATP finals. He got shaken a bit, but he
did overcome the threat from Taylor Fritz after falling a
set down to the American world number one Spaniard though
as now two from.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Two that's Monday. If it is two hours through hours,
you have to be really focusing on every point.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That makes really.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Difficult to play against the top.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
So in the beginning for the march or even in
the match, you've got to be really focusing player. Your
best Dady is see if you want to be done.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They said it, we hit record and that's Sport Today,
use and apion.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's Sportsfix with Dancie.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Valdegreve and it's a warm up. Welcome now to Kyle Jamison,
big man out of the black Caps ahead of the
fifth and final T twenty International, which is happening tomorrow.
We hope what's the weather looking like in Dunedin Kyle,
and welcome.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Thanks for having me. Yeah, I think it's actually looking
all right. So yeah, fingers crossed for you the game
and you have had another good cracking game that we've
had sort of, I guess for the most part of
the series.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's been a mad series so far. I don't think
anyone could have predicted what happened. Has been all over
the show like a mad woman's I won't even carry
on with that, but it's been it's been very exciting
to watch. Must be quite stressful to play though, Kyle.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yeah, Yeah, it has been. It's been very excited obviously.
You know, I've had pretty much close flinches and all
the games. So I think that the nature of obviously
of T twenty cricket, but especially at these smaller grounds,
is that you're never really out of it, you know.
I guess, I guess for either side. It's sort of
showed now in the first game we were sort of
down and out and then Matts gross pretty close, and
then some of the big boys got them pretty close
(03:49):
in the next couple. So yeah, has certainly been exciting,
and it's been I guess probably in a good way.
Nice to get some pressure situations for us as a
group leading into what's to come.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, well what's to come? I there's a World Cup
up around the corner. I think it's squad that initial
squads to to be announced after this. You've got any
idea about your involvement in that at all?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
To even let you know, I haven't heard anything, So
I'm just I'm not too sure, but yeah, I'm sure. Obviously,
just been the last series before they've got to name
something or get named in the little in the suppose
the next little bit, but we've just got to try
and lock them tomorrow, I guess, and try and look away.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This series tell us about what you've been up to
the ball. You've been involved in the last well, no
one was involved pretty much sure of the rain in
the last one. But you've you've gone through I think
ups and downs, mercurial. What's been happened with your bowling?
How do you think you'll present to be critical yourself, Kyle?
I know you can.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean I probably hasn't necessarily been perfect or
what I would have liked, but I still kind of
feel like in terms of over the last sort of month,
like there's been lots of lots of good stuff and
stuff that I can sort of take and learn from
and move forward. It's just now I just trying to
piece it all together. And I suppose probably probably the
same for a few boys at the moment is just
(05:10):
trying to piece it all together. But that's just the
nature of like his professional sport, really kind of going
through ups and downs and trying to work things out
and rediscover things and just hold you know, just hold
the hold the line. A little bit on some stuff too,
so hopefully hopefully we can get to click to.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
My really enjoyed the fact that there a whole founds
of fast balls out there. Now, it's not just a
case there's one or two and when they break, we're
in all sorts of trouble. They're everywhere, mate, It's like
they're being bred and they've all been playing very good cricket.
That competition internally a little stressful, but welcomed on.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Presuming, Yeah, I suppose so, I mean, it's not something
that we tend to think about a huge amount. I'm like,
I'm sure from the outside that feels like there's probably
a lot of competition for spots and pressure in that
sort of sense, but not really from from within as suppose.
It's just you're just trying to do do your best
with what you're kind of got in front of you,
and you kind of can't really control all the other stuff.
(06:08):
So whilst it's probably nice for a robin for match
to have all these different options and guys coming in
and out, it's just I guess as a player, you
kind of just trying to focus on the next game
and what that role may be and trying to learn
from it to move forward.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They talk about when New Zealand cricket do anyway, and
then we won't go into what's happening with t twenties
in the franchises because you guys don't know a great
deal about that. But what's worked with Super Smashes. You've
trained up a whole of the guys who appeared to
be able to fall seamlessly into position if required for
the national side. That is a huge positive for the
(06:41):
Super Smash because I suppose when guys walk in the
shit to go, oh it's you again, Oh I played you,
and everybody just jels. It's very much a team, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yeah, massively, So I think the I think, obviously you
mentioned the Super Smash, I think domestic cricket in general
is just really really strong at the moment. It's off
the back of probably the last ten years with having
a having a strong international side, and so guys have
had to sort of buy their time a little bit
and learn their craft and in domestic cricket. But you know,
I think I think those competitions, especially the Super Smashers,
(07:10):
are as strong as a lot of those comps around
the world. It's probably doesn't get the recognition that deserves
and like you said, guys can kind of sort of
come into the international sort of set up pretty seamlessly
and you know, and able to I guess contribute in
some way.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
How's your carcass, Kyle Jamison, how are you feeling? Because
you're carrying around quite the reg and it does come
with its own set of issues if what you well
know that, But where you're at right now, what have
you done, what have you changed if anything to help
continue I suppose continue playing at that top level.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Yeah, Yeah, it's been a good and obviously available for
selections that's always a good start. Yeah, it's obviously been
a pretty pretty sort of relentless last sort of month
or a month or sting into the scheduling sort of
feels like you're playing sort of every second day or
you know, or doing something in that and that sort
of realm. And yeah, but bodies body's feeling all right
and just getting some miles in the legs and and
(08:04):
building up and all that sort of stuff. So yeah,
just just being sort of I guess available for selections always.
Nice Off was back at the last last few.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Years dissecting the sporting agenda it's sportsfex with Dancy Waldgrave.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
At what stage do you blame the coach for the
woes of the team. Normally it's a reasonably easy decision
because it's a lot less stressful for everybody concerned if
one person steps down as opposed to a whole lot
of the team, that the buck stops with the coach.
(08:41):
And after last year, I think we could be safe
to say that the head coach of the New Zealander Breakers,
Terry coopen and was on shaky ground, but he got
the gig for this season, and he's got a roster
that's full of very good players, very experienced players at
(09:01):
a national level and an international level as well. So
what an earth is going wrong? And how long does
it take before his demise is triggered by yet another
terrible performance. Kareem Lopez fantastic young player. Sam and Ninger, Wow,
that guy's been a star so far. Parker Jackson Cartwright
(09:23):
is quality a. Zia Brockingham is fantastic, Max Darling, Rob Low, Taylor,
Brad Rubin de Rangi. There are a lot of good
players out there for this side, but they have failed
dismally right the way through the season. Tonight they take
on Brisbane in Brisbane and they'll be looking to pick
(09:45):
their season up again. It is the Ignit Cup. It's
a bit of frill, a bit of tinsel on the
side of the NBL regular season, but it's not the
focus of this side. This side they've got to learn
how to put teams away and not stumble at the
last it maybe, but Terrek Coppin can take some advice
(10:08):
from Scott Robertson after his team's troubles in the last
twenty minutes, which they appear to have turned around right now.
So is it the players or is it the coach?
Record wise over this year and last year, you'd have
to point at to Teddy Copenan and say this is
(10:29):
the problem. I don't like blame storming, but what I
hate more than blame storming is a team that I
love behaving like a dumpster fire. They're stinking the joint
up and it's depressing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Were joined a chamber now by head of Sport for
News Talk z Be. His name is Clay Wilson, and
we're going to talk to Clay and welcome on into
the chamber. Predominantly about the All Blacks. English team is out,
The All Blacks team is coming up around the corner.
All roads lead to twicken them, right, This is the
(11:08):
Grand Slam, isn't it. I'm saying that now, and they'll
beat them and then they'll fall over to Wales.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Well I was going to say, is this the Grand Slam?
Right here? You know, the way the Welsh team has
been going these past couple of years, you look at
it and you say this is the last real test.
You shouldn't. I mean, it would be an utter calamity
to lose to Wales, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
How many calamities of this all Black team dealt with
in the last three or four years.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
So yeah, I mean, I guess a big loss to
South Africa is bad. I lost to Argentina isn't great.
But given the record of this Welsh team and the
current standing it has, I think that would top them
all if they were to fall over even over there.
You know, I think Argentina put forty odd points on
(11:56):
Wales in the last week or two, so it kind
of shows you where they're at, very much in a
rebuilding kind of stage, a new coach on board, so
you look at this England during you say you win
that and that what it would be sixth, seventh, eighth
Grand Slam. It's kind of secured all but all, barring
(12:18):
a disaster in Cardiff.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Could the English win? That's a big thing. They did
well up against the Fijians. They've had a couple of changes,
the teams out nice and early. Where's the strength of
the side, do you think?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, I think very much so. I mean, obviously played
Fiji last weekend, ended up winning by about twenty odd points,
but the game is quite close for three quarters of
an hour, and I think that that's a little bit
of a credit to Fiji and you know, a team
that is capable of pushing these top teams great A
and Super Rabia's really held for a good you know,
(12:53):
three quarters two thirds of a game and England laid
it on them in the last twenty minutes. Now, some
people will say, well, that's what England should do to Fiji,
and you're probably right to an extent, but I think
it goes to show that there are weapons there for England.
They do certainly pose a threat and I think you know,
on the face of it, outside of Ireland and you know,
(13:16):
they were kind of coming off quite a long layoff,
won't they, and you know, traveling to Chicago all that
kind of thing, whereas England at home at Twickenham seemed
to have some rhythm behind them. Now this really sort
of jumps out as the most dangerous of the four fixtures.
So I think the way this All Black team has
(13:36):
gone this year, that's the thing you look at, isn't it.
It's kind of been so up and down it's hard
to trust that what we saw in that last you know,
that first kind of sixty minutes, or the good parts
of the Scottish performance, the good parts of the Irish performance,
Will we see that over enough of a span to
beat England or is it going to be an off
week and England are gonna you know, like I say,
(13:58):
I have a bit of rhythm behind them and turn
the All Blacks over, because that wouldn't be a while.
It's not the result I'm necessarily expecting, is my number
one prediction. I don't think it would be a surprise
to me. I'm not sure about if you think that
would be a would you be shocked to see the
All Blacks blues to England?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I guess no. Well, the English have got range on
their mind, haven't they. They keep getting touched up of
recent times by the All Blacks. They an't like that.
They don't want that happening at home. I'm interested in
what they do as far as man pals concerned. Gregor Paul,
what a great piece he's in a herald today basically
pleading with Razor robertson, don't start with Damien McKenzie, stick
(14:39):
him on the bench and talking about the tendency of
the South Africans and other teams to go. It is
not a fifteen man game. It is a twenty three
man game. Do you think you'll carry that? Do you
see that happen? Because what McKenzie does off the bench,
I don't know if anyone else can do that. Why
move him? Right?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I think it's a very good point. You know, we
saw the akelles here or excuse me, of the All
Blacks last season was that last phase of the game,
and you can see they've really put some thought into
how they approach these last quarters and in terms of
selection and what they look at, not just with someone
(15:20):
like Damien McKenzie, but with the whole you know, the
whole eight man bench. Some players that maybe, yes, you
would think in a normal world might start, but you
look at an opposition or just the way rugby has
played these days, you're better to have certain players coming off.
I mean, you look at Wallace a tit what he's
perhaps done in that role a little bit as well
in terms of a forward. But I tend to agree
(15:41):
if Boden Barrett is fit, he starts at ten, Will
Jordan as your best fullback and Damien McKenzie. The skills,
the talents, the natural gifts he has to me are
best utilized in the last twenty minutes of a game
against a tiring defense. That speed, that ability to read
a defense, to find the holes, to play that off
(16:03):
the cuff Rugby. He's really, you know, one of, if
not the best at his best, you know, ugly the
best player in the world in that kind of way.
And we saw that against Scotland, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, I got to Mikey Williams as well. I thought
he'd get a start, but when you bring that monster
in towards the end of the game, huge effect that
he has. The other twist in the selection is what
do they do with that loose Ford treo. I'm presuming
that would Satiki come off the bench and they're going
to start with spa Simon park On expars his nickname
(16:36):
is that the likely selection and Barrett the skipper who
rolls straight back an again, providing he's okay, and I
believe he is.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, And I think you know one of those locks
that's played so well in the last you know, one
and a half for you know, mostly two fixtures. Of course,
Barrett come off early against Ireland. Josh Lord and Fabian
Holland have both done a great job, Josh Lord particularly,
you know, stepping up and really really doing putting in
two great performances, so you think he's the likely one
(17:04):
to drop out Scott Barrett comes in and then the
loose forwards as a hard one. I think you look
at Ardie Severe as a lock at seven. I think
Peter Lackey has done enough at eight to show that
you wouldn't change him. That there's some you want to
keep some continuity there. It's really around that number six
Jersey and what they do. And to me, I think
you know someone like Wallace a Titi, he does lend
(17:28):
himself to being a great option of the bench, doesn't
he not that he hasn't done well as a starting player,
and they may well go down that route again. But
that that that's an interesting a toss up for me
about like you say, whether they they put Parker in
that six jersey and bring Satiti off the bench, or
say Stiti's our man, we want him, we want him
on the field for as long as possible, and put
him in in the starting role. But certainly some interest
(17:51):
and also some interest around what they do with Caleb
Clark now being out. Of course, Leicester Fying and Niokers
come into the midfield, done such a great job, do
they do they now bump them back out to the
wing and would have.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Been more terrifying out there. And and Billy Proctor that's
another key to set.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
On the Brown's fit again. Yeah, Rico Joanni in the squad,
although you probably wouldn't see that given he's a bit
out of favor. But yeah, just when Lester has got
a couple of games in the midfield and looked really good,
they've lost Caleb Clark and perhaps your next best option
maybe is to is to put Lester back out on
that wing and fill the void in the midfield.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Just quickly we've got the fifth and final will be
the fourth because the fourth one didn't really happen. T
twenty I West Indies versus the Black Apps in Dunedin.
It's been jacking on high. It's been a crazy, crazy series,
so entertaining edgy a seat stuff. Will that form be
carried on? Do you think by the West Indies? So
(18:54):
they've been written off at the start of this tour,
they've proved they've got something about them white ball cricket,
odie eyes. Can they do anything Test cricket? What goes on?
They set themselves up? Or am I dreaming? Well?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think perhaps they've been more competed of across these
first three T twenties than people gave them credit for.
I do thing to think with cricket and any sport
in general, the shorter of the format, the more of
a leveler it is, right, the less scope there is
for for the for the better team to show that
they are the better team. So you move through to
(19:27):
one day is my expectation is that you would hope
that the Black Caps have more of a margin and
then into the Tests even more so. But yeah, in
white ball cricket, the way it's played these days.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's white T twenty on steroids, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That's the way it's become. That's what T twenty has
done to white ball cricket and in term what it's
done to test cricket. But so yes, perhaps you know
they might nab one or two of these these one
day games. I've certainly got the firepower with the batting
that they could do it. But I think as the
game gets longer in terms of the format, you would
(20:06):
you would expect, anyway from from a New Zealand p
that the black Caps have a bit more time to
show and prove that they are the better team on
paper and that they'll they'll sort of they'll be able
to prevail.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And on that Clay Wilson, back to your desk and
go hard, my friend. Thanks very much for your time
and experts. He says, does use a billion.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
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Effects of podcast for today, Wednesday, twelfth November twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
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