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November 26, 2025 • 17 mins

On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 27th November 2025, Team Rugby have called in some strong reinforcements for their upcoming Black Clash match against Team Cricket, including former Aussie all rounder Shane Watson. He joined the podcast to discuss how he managed to get recruited.

Piney looks at a double standard being afforded to Christiano Ronaldo, that other players don't get.

And D'Arcy and Piney are in The Chamber discussing whether it's still a good idea for the NZOC to chase the 2034 Commonwealth Games hosting rights.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ed be Hello there and welcome into the Sports Fixed
podcast on Thursday November twenty seven. Goodness me, this year
is flying. We're in association with GJ. Gardner Homes, New
Zealand's most trusted home builder. Good to be talking sport.
I'm Jason Pint.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's always equivalent to how old you are the relative
speed of the year, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, it's flying by a neck exted.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm Darcy Watergrave and really great to be on the
Sportsfix podcast with y'all.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, indeed, it is a few things to kick around.
There's news out out today that there's a possible but
this has been talked about before by New Zealand to
host the twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games. How do we
feel about this? The Black Clash is coming up and
you've got a very special guest for us today, does Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Bloke by the name of Shane Watson, very handy all
round across a number of different categories. I want to
say at formats he's played everywhere everything, and he's still
slinging his bat around too at a master's level.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
It'll be fun chat.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You can't wait here From Shane Watson, I've got some
thoughts on exceptions being made for Cristiano Ronaldo and the
latest in sports news as well, so let's get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
In other news, let's get.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Going with a look at some of the big sports
stories around today. Former New Zellen cricket coach John Bracewell
believes the T twenty franchise game could soon face some
challenges with a possible dispute looming between the talent and
the teams.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
We have our players associations around, but I think that
we will get a unionization of players where they feel
as though they have got a little more control over
what they think may be exploitation.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Supercars driver Ryan Wood taking a detour at the end
of this year's campaign to adventure into open wheel racing.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Never raced, known from wheeler before, driven a car twice,
so yeah, it's going to be a.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Steep learning curve.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Some of the best open wheeler prodigies coming through the
ranks in the world racing this year.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Arsenal at top of the champions League Football Table, demoting
Buyer Munich to seecond after beating them three to one
at home and behind Kimrici. Who's beyond Nia.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's Caapril Mataday to Matshaw for.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Arsenal, but Anfield is less a cherry. Liverpool beaten for
to one by PSB hind Hove and then ninth defeat
in twelve games across all competitions.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
Darna Slot will find himself being attacked by his critics
and by Liverpool fans because the Liverpool of last season
has evaporated and the Liverpool of this season is a mess.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sports Fix with Jason Vine
and Darcy Waldgrave.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's a warm welcome now to Shane Watson, former Australian cricketer,
former Australian captain at Test player one, Dames national player
T twenty player as well been confirmed come over and
play in the Hot Spring Spas T twenty Black Clash
and association.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
With Wolf Book. He joins us.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Now good a Shane, welcome to the program. So what
got you involved in the Black Clash?

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah? Look, thanks for having me, Darcy. Yeah, look, I've
got involved in the Black class. Look, I've always been
a huge All Blacks fan since I was a kid,
and Stephen Fleming, who coached me at the Channel super
Kings for three years, he always talked to me about
the Black Clash right from the start of when it

(03:41):
kicked off and how big and how big it was
going to be, and then obviously seeing how it's continued
to grow and being one of the premier sporting events
in New Zealand, I was always looking forward to an
opportunity to be able to play in it, and this
year the schedule, my schedule sort of worked out that
I'm available and I get a chance to bet, to

(04:03):
live out my dream in some way to play for
the All Black.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, kind of being an All Black, look, I take it. Chain.
What kind of state you and physically are you you
ready to roll?

Speaker 5 (04:13):
You?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
And good? Nick?

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I mean decent Nick. I'm still playing occasionally. There are
some Masters tournaments that have been popping up over the
last couple of years, so I'm playing like I'm playing
probably one of those a year, So I'm still in
decent enough. Nick. My body was always a challenge, especially
yet through my career, to be honest, So that's that

(04:35):
hasn't changed when it comes to getting up and going
and running and all those things. But batting wise, skill wise,
it all, it's still decent with me still playing occasionally
here and there, so but I'm looking forward to just
the whole event. You know. I've just heard so many
incredible things about about the black class and been able
to camp against some of my old New Zealand cricket

(04:56):
buddies as well. That's going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Back to the rugby. I'll believe you've played a bit
of rugby as well. Playing curb at number eight?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Is that for real?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:06):
I did. Through my high school years, I did. I
love my rugby.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
You know.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I grew up in Ipswich, which is sort of just
west of Brisbane and it's a really a big Voluntep Sutagram,
which is a big rugby school out of Brisbane. So yeah,
I'd love my rugby played. Yeah, flanker number eight to
look a decent level, but in the end I wasn't
big enough for as a flanker. Flankers were getting baller

(05:30):
as well the guys that I was up against, but
also I was just that little. I certainly much better
at cricket. So in the end, I sit a sicker
sitting on the bench from a rugby perspective where I
wasn't being twelve man in crickets, so ended up being cricket.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
In crik Info, it describes you as a man who
overcame the limitations of a fragile, injury prone body to
become one of Ozzie's premiere all round us.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
When you were moving through your.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Career, how did you prepare for that? How did you
deal with the fact that you had a fragile carcass.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
Yeah, look, I've always absolutely loved the game of cricket
since I can remember, and with those injury challenges I had,
whether it's threast fractures in my back or soft tissue injuries,
cars and hamstring injuries, shoulder reconstruction, through all those times
and there were certainly some challenging ones where my body
was letting me down. I just always had that burning

(06:23):
desire to be the best cricketer I possibly could, so,
even though there was some challenging times not knowing sort
of when I was going to be playing again and
whether I was going to be able to continue to
be an all rounder because I was mainly getting injured
through bowling. That I always just had that burning desire
to be the best cricket I could, So I never
lost the love of the game and the desire to

(06:44):
be the very best. But there's certainly was the number
of challenges where it didn't. It looked like I might
not realize my dream of being the best all rounder
that I possibly could, that I might have just had
to sort of cut the bowling side of me as
a cricketer. But fortunately with finding I was very resourceful
in a way. I looked anywhere I possibly could to

(07:06):
be able to get someone who could help me understand
my body that bit better and help me on the path.
I've been able to be more resilient, and I certainly
I found that for a certain period of time to
my career.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Anyway, looking back, would you have changed anything as far
as looking after your rig during your career and the
young people coming through, what advice would you give to
them about looking after your carcass because it can it
can beat you up, this game, can't it?

Speaker 6 (07:35):
It does? Yeah, look at that. I suppose the advice
that I would give people from from my challenges that
I had, one is how incredibly important. Your core strength
is also as much as important as strength work is.
To be able to be as strong and be the
best athlete you can, you need core strength. You need

(07:57):
lengthen your muscles muscles as well. So yoga would be
it would would have been something that I would have
done from you from as a teenager to be able
to keep the length in my in my muscles, in
my joints. Whereas when I was in the gym and
getting bigger and stronger, then you know you muscle doo
tighten up to a point then you know they're on
a point of breaking, especially as a trying to bowl

(08:19):
as fast as I as I tried to. So that
would be that those would be from a physical point
of view, those would be the sort of the biggest
learnings that I had through my career, because then it
was sort of just because of the because of what
I did through my teenageers and early twenties, then I
was just sort of troubleshooting for the rest of my
career in that regard. So if I set the foundation better,

(08:43):
then it's certainly I think it would have been a
little bit different, a little bit easier anyway. But when
you're pushing the limits to your body anyway that you're
always going to have. You always going to have injuries.
It's just a few less would have been more idea sports,
let's not.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Last week, Christiano ronald I was facing a partial band
from his sexth Football World Cup, hosted across North America
in June and July next year. That's due to a
red card that he got with Portugal for elbowing an
Irish defender in a qualifying game. Then, Ronaldo visited the
White House alongside Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman,

(09:19):
where he met American President Donald Trump. Now FIFA Governing
Body president Jianni Infantino just happened to be there as
well and posed for a selfie with Ronaldo. And suddenly,
lo and behold, Ronaldo has now avoided the ban. At
its very worst, this is corruption and at its absolute best,

(09:41):
it's an exception being made for Christiana Ronaldo. It's hard
to look at this in any other way. Why is
there one rule for him and one for everybody else?
How to players who were also suspended for a game
or two at the World Cup because of red cards
now feel why aren't their bands also being overturned. The answer,

(10:01):
of course, is obvious. Ronaldo is such a big star
that FIFA, in their rush to make sure nothing ruins
their World Cup, have changed the rules. It's not right,
but we'll never get a satisfactory explanation for it. This
is a direct comparison actually in New Zealand terms. Here
goalkeeper Glenn Moss sent off in a World Cup qualifier
against Fiji during the run to the twenty ten tournament,

(10:23):
and he was forced to miss the first two games
of that World Cup. There will have been other similar
cases too, but only Ronaldo's has been overturned because well
he's Ronaldo. Ironically enough, the rule isn't a bad one.
Players shouldn't really be made to miss a World Cup
because of something that happened months and months before. But
if you're going to change the rule, change it for everybody.

(10:47):
Otherwise it just looks like fame and power can buy
you exceptions.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Into the Chamber we go, what a good rooster Shane
Watson sounds like he'll be a good addition to Team
Rugby for the Black Clash. Look, a lot of people
have a bit of an issue with this. It's a gamick.
It's not real sport. But Dasha to say, they sell
it out every year. Our events like this are pretty
integral part of the future of sport generally for.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
You, well, on sport, I use the term sportainment go
because in essence that's what it is. It is nothing
really on it. It's using the rules of sport. It
says in the energy of sport, but no one cares
who wins, So you can't really call.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
It sport, can you.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
No, you're right, but but but you know, in these
days of discretionary dollars and them being pulled in all
sorts of different directions, and people are having to make
decisions about what they go along to witness, to watch,
and more importantly to experience. Isn't that it is the
experience of something like this.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
That's what they do.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
They reel people in so they can have a great
day out. And that's what people want to do with
their as you said, their discretionary income. They want to
spend it somewhere they're guaranteed entertainment and with this because
there's not a great deal on it, but they get
to see great ex cricketers and rugby players having fun.
I can understand why everyone rolls on them with the

(12:12):
family to get involved in it. This is the same
with T twenty maybe not to the same agree, but
international T twenties. It's a great day out at more
than anything else.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
You should patent that word sportainment. You should. You should
put a little c copy right alongside that.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
But now I think that someone coined that back when
what was it WWF the wrestling, because that's all that was.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Wasn't that That wasn't sport that was sportainment.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, you're did right, You did right, all right, We'll
look forward to seeing Shane Watson and many others.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Wait, my Carsie's going to be there as well, with
Jesse Ryder is going to be there. And you know
something else about this I've really enjoyed in the last
few years. I've got to interview Brian Lara and Chris Gail.
Now that is bucket list stuff. I'm sorry, it's such
a fanboy. When I was talking to both of those lads,
and I talked to Mike Cassier this week. Obviously, Shane Watson,
g c Ryders.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
So from from our point of view, it's wonderful getting
in touch to these guys. What are they doing there,
how they feel.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I must say that the interview schedules a bit lopsided
towards you in this case, but I don't mind it.
I don't mind it. I think you're actually the right
man for the job when it comes to guys like
Hussey and Watson and Ryder and others. Hey, let's talk
other sport A Metabad will host the twenty thirty Commonwealth
Games centenary. Addition, India are targeting the twenty thirty six

(13:29):
Olympics and this is sort of seen as a bit
of a dry run for that. Also a statement out
of the NZC today, DA are saying that they are
still committed to at least examining the idea New Zealand,
that is, of hosting the twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games
nine years from now. Do you expect you and I
even or are our successes if you like, more likely

(13:49):
to be talking about a Commonwealth Games here at home
for the first time since nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
The Commonwealth Games just needs and we know because it's
already happening. It needs to be renovated, it needs to
be pulled apart and rebuilt from the bottom up, because
I think it has import I really do, but not
in the form that it has been in the last
thirty forty years. It just doesn't have relevant in that space.
So it needs to be restructured. And the next Common

(14:16):
Games is restructured, so a continuation of that. But I
support it, and I'm sure you do as well, Jason,
but I'll bide my time. I'm not putting any money
on that actually coming, even though INDIDOCF said, hey, we're
pretty keen.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
But I suppose the big thing is who's paying exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, And also you make such your point it has
to be fit for purpose in terms of the host
I think as you say, look at you, look what
I met about India. So they're going to bring T
twenty cricket back huge obviously in India. Hockey will also return,
and that's a big sport in India. If it's going
to be held here in New Zealand, we need to
be able to decide which of the sports you know,
which are most relevant to New Zealand audiences are included

(14:58):
on the program because you're right to USh you can't
have forty eight sports in the Commonwealth Games anymore. It's
just not doable. Glasgow have worked that out for next year,
very much a trimmed, slimmed down common Wealth Games. I
met about. It'll be the same. If New Zealand art
a host, surely we have to actually you know, cut
and slice it to fit.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, to get the fans along first and foremost, they
need bums on seats. They need to generate some income
out of that and show what New Zealand's proudly plays.
And we're a Commonwealth country ridiculously so a lot of
people will climb on into that.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
And I can see sports that are treasure or precious
to us being like engaged.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I don't do you think the Indians are going to
run Kabadi?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I mean they could, they could. I'm just trying to
think of things which are specific to us. Yet. Can
you see in twenty thirty four the Commonwealth Games gun
boot throw? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, you better tell Rowena Duncan because she's won a
medal and that hasn't she in the gun boot throw?

Speaker 4 (15:59):
And what about timber sports?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Because yes, right up there early and I think people
would go far and wide to watch folk chop trees down,
because that's a great.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Anything else, particularly New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think seven sevens have to be there, wouldn't it,
you know as an example, and I think we'd probably
have T twenty cricket and the netball as well, you know,
the sports that we traditionally follow. So look at us,
look at us getting excited about the prospect usk wait year.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
But we're sports pigs.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
We can't help ourselves, right, any excuse. And from an
event point of view, if it's well run and well targeted,
it will be a fantastic thing to be involved, because
as you know, Jason, you've been to heaps of events.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
When you go to a well organized, well.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Structured event, regardless of what you're watching, it's worth going to,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Absolutely right? Absolutely right. We wait for more detail and
of ends see on a possible bid for the twenty
thirty four Commonwealth Games. It will do us in the
chambers today.

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