On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for 5th December 2025, the fifth edition of the New Zealand derby between Auckland FC and the Wellington Phoenix is set for tomorrow night in Auckland with the Phoenix hopeful to pick up their first win in the fixture. Former All White and Wellington Phoenix defender Ben Sigmund joined D'Arcy to discuss.
Piney shares his thoughts on the NZ Derby becoming one of the biggest domestic sporting events in New Zealand and what could go down tomorrow evening.
And D'Arcy and Piney discuss the final F1 Grand Prix of the year this weekend and who could win the championship, as well as FIFA World Cup draw tomorrow morning.
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Where we're started off actually correct, it can only go
downhill as we verged into opinion of course, dars, I
want to get your opinion on the F.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
One in Abu Dhabi, the season ending race.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
And that works well because I want your opinion on
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Trump Farm or wherever they're going to have it, village people, YMCA,
whatever that. Yes, we'll cover both of those off separately
or should we swap it around? Know?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And it's not no, I don't think we should.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We should shy away from opining on the other if
you if you get my drift ground doesn't be one thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I know you'll have some World Cup draw thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I like the way Jason Pine wants to Pine. I
love the way you did that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Speaking although pining, who's going to opine? In terms of
another voice on the podcast today.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
O Piney when he curried down to chat with Ben
segment from All White with Phoenix Player as well around
the Glory of the day.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Looking forward to that and the latest and sports news
as well. Let's get into it. In other news, Let's
get things going with a look at some of the
big sports stories around today. Liam Lawson admits any sympathy
for Yuki Sonoda's Formula One future only goes so far
the Japanese drivers being dropped by Red Wolf next year,
having replaced Lawson after two Grand Prix this season.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Don't care for anybody that's that's not in Formula One,
that's you know, works worked a long time to get there.
But at the same time there's a lot of guys
so that don't get the opportunity. Ever, He's had a
few years in the sporting and I think it's a
very very tough game, which obviously over leans as well.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The frustration for Manchester United manager Reuben amerm after a
one old drawer at home against west Ham. Instead of
jumping four spots on the Premier League ladder up to fifth,
United gained just one position to sit eighth.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
When we heard that run that the team was really
perfect and they're all is saying we are really we
are not far from being in the perfect moment. We
are really inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But if you look at the goal fety three minutes,
we have everything under control. We need to do it.
And boxing promoter George Rose believes Nelson us for Solomon
that can be his true aggressive self now that he
has ditched rugby league for prize fighting.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Step into a boxing room.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We love reckless high shots. We love careless high shots.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You're not getting one week, you're not getting fine, you're
not getting three weeks. You're getting paddled on the back.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Us and a Vinion.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's Sports Fix with Jason Hine and Dusty.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Walter Grave and it's a warm welcome to the Sports
Fixed podcast. Now to form an all white Former Phoenix
player Ben Segment, Long time, Ben, haven't spoken to you
for ages?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Oh are you?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Oh well, thank you, thank you, thank you very much
for asking.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And thank you very much for coming on the program.
Former former Phoenix player, you must have been gatted when
this whole concept that the Derby turned up. I'd suggest
this would be a game you would absolutely revelin.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Oh it would have been would have you know?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It would have been the.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Icing on the cake for me as a you know,
for as a pro coming through or you know, even
if I was sort of saying to someone this morning,
when we grew up, we just played club football and
then hope like how we'd go pro somewhere. But now
we've got a care to me, we've got two professional
teams in this country and then you've got the Derby
on top of that, Like it's just the icing on
(03:48):
the cake made it really is so special for these
young kids coming through with the future and being able
to play in New Zealand as a pro footballer is
so cool.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
The Phoenix are carrying a lot of pressure on their shoulders,
a lot of weight. They can't win in the derby.
Last time the Derby was on, it was can you
say an embarras, I'm not quite sure how you managed
to lose a game like that when you only play
against nine guys, so how much pressures on these blokes
to actually perform and what will that look like on
the park?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Ben, Yeah, I just I just wonder whether this next
one tomorrow might be that there is no pressure for
the Phoenix, you know that. I think it's zero and four.
I think I can't even remember. I know that Phoenix
haven't won any but it's starting to mount up. But
I kind of feel like maybe there's no pressure on
them at the moment and they just kind of just
got to throw themselves at it and have a crack
(04:40):
and you know, you just never know. I sort of
felt like the Phoenix played exceptionally well against Adelaide last week,
you know, like they pressed high, they worked hard, scored goals,
you know, conceded, I know, but apart from that, they
actually played really well. So yeah, I find it very
hard because I am a Phoenix through and through, But
(05:03):
you know, it's been tough to see them sort of
not win yet. But I've got hope. I've got I
hope that they're going to go and do it well.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
They're on the app, aren't they. Whereas AKFC in a
situation now where they've just wobbled over the last couple
of weeks, So you'd suggest maybe that the time is right. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
and they're at home.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
You know, maybe maybe a bit of pressure might be
starting to mount on them fit home fans. You know,
they've had it pretty good. They've done exceptionally well for
the first season and then you know they're right up
there still though, you know, so you know, I don't
think there is too much pressure on them right now.
They just got to tune up, perform, play well, and
you know they get the result. You know, this season
(05:44):
carries on as per normal.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Talk to us about what the Phoenix have put out
on the pitch this year, the good, the bad, the ugly,
what you would like to see in that lineup, as
far as what they provide, what their formation is, and
they're like, knock yourself out being what has to happen.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, it's a consistency. For me, it's you know, the play.
As I said, they played well against Adelaide and they
kind of showed where they needed be. But they need
to do that week in week out, the high press,
you know, working really hard. You know, all that stuff
is well and good, but if you don't do it
week in, week out, day and day out, like it's
(06:20):
no good to anyone. So for me, do exactly what
they did last week in the first half against Adelaide
and they will definitely be a chance.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You talk about the high press, Has this been a constant?
Do you want consistency? They appear to say, look, this
is what we're going to play. And even though it
was a disastrous start last time, they keeping up with
this idea and was just the right way for this
team to go. They got the manpower to do this.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, and again they just keep making like they're getting
better and better with it, and chiefly the coach obviously
is sticking to it, which is absolutely fine and I
love the fact that he's trying something different for this year.
There's probably just one or two little mistakes that keeps
creeping in and they conceding a goal. And again, like,
(07:11):
if they can get rid of those one or two
little mistakes which is costing them, then I don't have
an issue with it. I think it's I think that's
really exciting football and good for the club. But yeah, again,
just take those little things away and it might be
just a little bit of desperation tackle, it might be
just doing something extra as a player to go in
(07:32):
and bloody, you know, just stop that goal from going in.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You had been enough for the we want controlled aggression.
I'm presuming in a derby match. Do you think they've
got that about them, if they got that, that power
about them and that want to actually stand up and
say yeah, no, not on my pitch. Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, Well you'd like to think so, and you'd like
to hope so. And again if it was me being
out there and you're having a crack, like, you know,
I don't care who I was playing, I didn't care
how many fans were there. I didn't care what pitch
I was on. It's like if you were just giving
it one hundred percent. No, you're no. Your role in
not backing down to anyone. You know, have a crack,
(08:13):
don't be afraid do what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldergrave.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
The New Zealand A League derby is quickly becoming must
watch sporting action. Michael Vaut, the Auckland FC goalkeeper, said
that the team's media session today he already believes it
is the biggest domestic sporting events on New Zealand's calendar,
and it is hard to argue. Yes, there are rivalries
across a bunch of different sports, but in which other rivalry,
(08:46):
in which other clash, in which other contest do you
get the fervor and the passion and the build up
and the hype and the genuine it seems dislike between
the participants. Very very very quickly, after only four iterations,
this has become compelling viewing and we get the chance
for Derby five point zero tomorrow at go Media Stadium. Now,
(09:10):
unlike last week where the Heavens opened with monsoon rain,
tomorrow's forecast a go Media is about the opposite. Clear
blue skies and sunshine with the light breeze, so perfect
footballing conditions. We could go on and on and on
about where this game will be won and lost. We
can talk about the matchups. Sam Cosgrove, the Auckland FC
(09:32):
English striker up against the Canadian center back for the
Wellington Phoenix, Mandraka James. At the other end, the watertight
usually defense of Auckland FC, marshalled by Dan Hall trying
to keep e fine. Is this unpredictable Nigerian striker under
wraps and in the engine room the likes of Louis
va Strata and Alex Rufer and Jake Brimmer and Kazuki
(09:56):
Nagasawa locking horns and trying to find an advantage for
their side. But for me, matches of this magnitude often
come down to very small moments, and these moments only
arrive every so often in a game. What you must
be is prepared for when they arrive, and in those
split seconds the decision making of the key participants in
(10:21):
this game tomorrow is what we'll decide this contest. This
ain't going to be a goal fest. This isn't going
to be five to four. This could be decided by
the odd goal, an error, or a flash of inspiration.
Regardless of how the game is won and lost. It
will be must watch at go Media tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The Chamber is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Into the Chamber we go a couple of big events
happening over the weekend. One actually doesn't involve actual sport.
It's the drawing of forty eight balls out of twelve pots.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's the FIFA World Cup drawer for next year. You're
going to get to that in the moment.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Across the weekend, though, the Formula One season comes to
a rather exciting climax. You'd have to think in Abu
Dhabi does how many drivers are still with the chance
of winning the driver's championship?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
All three?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So what we've got is Lando Norris's leads the way.
He's twelve points clear of the reigning wheel champ Max
for Steppin Oscar Pastree four points a drift. So the
way that works pretty much on the podium for Lando Norris,
he wins the championship.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, so you get twenty five for a win, don't you?
Eighteen twelve something like that? So, yeah, so wouldn't that big?
Lando Norris's best approach to this. Don't worry at all
about what Max for Stappan is doing. It sounds simple.
Just get on the podium yourself. Will that be how
he approaches it or will he just try and stay
in Max for Stepan's review mirror.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You can't win it on the first corner. I think
it's the first thing he's got to consider. But in
saying that, the Steppen gets a bolt on him and
gets away. That's providing he qualifies up front. Suddenly the
red mist comes. I'm going to beat the step and
you can't get ahead, and then he's got to worry
about Piastre because you know they've got the papaya rules
of McLaren. That's the color of the car, papya. I
(12:06):
think it's papya puh quite frankly, and with McLaren the
last couple of weeks that they are allowed to race
against each other, and because there's an outside chance that Piastre,
he was the championship leader early doors, he's got a
chance to win this. So I don't see these two
guys helping each other out at all, and really could
he I wouldn't think, so it depends how we go
halfway through the race. They've been pretty pretty hardcore on that.
(12:28):
It's like, you know, when it's these two guys are
both of them with the championship. Lando's obviously got that
he's at the front, but they're not going to say
protect the bloke. I really don't think that's going to happen.
Maybe if we end up with Norris sorry Piastree fifth six,
something like that, and it's obvious the gain the game's over,
he can marobably, maybe getting the way of a stepping
(12:50):
or something like that. But I think when the flag drops,
all the lights go out, it's going to be awful one.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
In many ways, that makes it more exciting, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean two v one those aren't aren't the odds?
That that sound fair to anybody? Max for stepping though,
I'm really keen on your view on the stars. He
just it was one hundred points behind. For goodness sake,
he's clawed his way back.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And where does he say? Claud's way? He's absolutely broken
the door down, he's turned up, he's winning sprints, he's
winning races, he's qualifying first like this is the step
we know? So the car is obviously working again.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
But what does it say about Max for Stepan as
a driver? And no one else could have done that? Right,
no one else could have done what he has done.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well, if you circle back though to the hell Sen days,
guys like here and Center may well have been able
to do something like that. There were class drivers back
then who could. But of the current era, in this
new cars, maybe maybe, oh I don't know. You've got
to look at the guy who used to ride the
rebu Sebastian Fettle, who's also very good. Maybe he could
(13:52):
do it. But he's so bloody minded as Max. He
knows exactly what he needs to do. I don't they
talk about breaking the rear risimrs off in sport. I
don't think it was everyone his car. He cares behind him.
It's what's in front of him and how he's going
to dominate. And well he does, and he knows that.
He backs himself. He backs his team as well, which
is really important. And we know the importance of team
(14:14):
after what happened with McLaren when they got the pit
stops all wrong and they lost. So there's so much
and who can deal with the pressure is a key thing,
and any sport have that in every sport you're involved
in as well, when you've got a champion like Max
bearing down on you. Norris has never won a world championship,
Piastre has never won a world championship. How much does
(14:35):
that weigh on their shoulders as they drive around.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm fascinated.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's going to be such a good race.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh it's not going to be must watch for Stapping.
I guess all he has to do.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
All he can do is win the race, right, All
he can do is go and win the race and
let the cards fall behind him as they do, and hope.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yuki Snoda drives into the side of Norris has last
to run. He goes, I'm just going to smash straight
into your Look, it's not out of a quick It's
happened years and years ago. Where I mean Schumacher is
that there's other drivers where they're basically driven into the
opposition at the start of the race and won the championship.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Or it's pretty foul.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So let's get to America, get to the village people
performing why you see I don't believe I'm saying this,
And that's the big dance at the end because old
Trump he loves it, and Infantino and Trump Bosom buddies.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
They are, but they're there for the year.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
The pageantry of this compared to the Rugby World Cup
draw the other night, you know, where there was just
a bunch of guys sitting in a studio really with
it what looked like a sort of a makeshift backdrop.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
This is pageantry the draw for the fief of World Cup.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
What we really want to know though, is who New
Zealand they are going to end up against. Who are
they going to be put into a Paul Worth just
to explain it. There are forty eight teams going to
the World Cup.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Sure, they're going to add more idea.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
As we speak today, there are forty eight teams. They're
going to be twelve groups of four. New Zealand are
in Pot four because they are the one of the
lowest ranked teams.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So the pots separated on rankings, so we don't end
up with games where we've got one group with five
best teams.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's all ranked yep. So the top twelve teams and
that well, the top nineteen and the three hosts are
in Pot one, Pot two, the next ranked Pot three,
the next ranked Pot four, the bottom rank including New Zealand.
So then you start thinking yourself, who do you want
to get in the from pot one? What would be
a game that would capture the imagination? Well, there are
a couple in there that I can say straight away.
(16:25):
Imagine the All Whites playing England at a football World
Cup where all we seem to have to know a
lot about the Premier League and that sort of thing.
Imagine the All Whites coming up against Messi and Argentina
for goodness sake, in a World Cup pall match, And
then you start thinking Okay, who might we have a
chance against? Then you go down to pots two and three.
Pot three has got the likes of South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Kuta,
(16:48):
Uzbekistan to Nizia, Coat Devoirs.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Who we beat recently.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
So the Pot three team we come up against is
going to be interesting for me because that's a result game.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, I just wind it back. So in order to
advance through the next group, what actually has to happen?
What do New Zealand have to put down? Because we
know they're unbeaten back in South Africa back in the day,
they also didn't win great record didn't work for them.
So what actually has to happen? What are they looking for?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're a good question.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So twelve groups, the top two from each group go
through to the round of thirty two. That's twenty four
teams and then the next eight best third place finishes.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So is that points based or goal difference based?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Its first, then goals goal difference, then goal scored.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Effectively, you probably have to win a game and get
a result in another game, So a win and a
drawer would get you through.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So for the All Whites, they'll look at that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Whoever comes out of Pot three, one of the lower
ranked teams say, that's a game we target to win
and we try and get a draw somewhere else and
that should be enough for us to go through. But
the other way those ask everybody wants New Zealand in
their group because we're the lowest.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
We're the lowest ranked. Anyone who gets.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
New Zealand go well, there's three points for us. Well,
and that might even play in our favorite Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
At their peril.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
At their peril they to wind it back. So when
you look at from a player's point of view, on
players perspective as an all white, who do they want
to get thrashed by? I mean, is it Argentina, is
it England? Who would they get the jersey? Do they
still what? Jump and go mate? I played these guys.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Well then now Messi Cam Devlon who used to play
for the Phoenix Lee andel Messi's jersey when Australia played
Argentina at the last World Cup. You know the crazy
thing is these players now don't fear anybody. Yes, they
know they're underdogs against Argentina, Brazil, England, Spain, whoever it is,
but they're not going out there for the for the
photo and the and the shirt swap. Every time they play,
(18:32):
they go out the try and win the game. So
look tomorrow morning from six, I get the feeling the
balls or start to be pulled out around court to seven,
once the village people and everybody else who's involved have
have done their bits, and Infantina well covering it off on.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
The allsport breakfast to orown and would just keep your time.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You'll be able to follow it live on on that
and by the time you and I speak, I'll bet
to give you a little bit of analysis. So that's
tomorrow morning, Washington, d C. Six o'clock, New Zealand time.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I think that it's not unlike what's happening in the
Formula One. When you've got a wild favorite up against
New Zealand, the press is probably on them. It's not
on the New Zealander. It's because no he wants to
get white by New Zealand with all due respect, no respect,
what's been to you understand exciting times.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And they are exciting times. So we'll find out tomorrow
morning and Formula one across the weekend too. That's us
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'm da aut to go my second mat motion and
indeed is Friday the fifth well done?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Where we're started off actually correct, it can only go
downhill as we verged into opinion of course, dars, I
want to get your opinion on the F.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
One in Abu Dhabi, the season ending race.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
And that works well because I want your opinion on
what's happening in the World Cup draw tomorrow in America
Trump Farm or wherever they're going to have it, village people, YMCA,
whatever that. Yes, we'll cover both of those off separately
or should we swap it around? Know?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And it's not no, I don't think we should.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We should shy away from opining on the other if
you if you get my drift ground doesn't be one thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I know you'll have some World Cup draw thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I like the way Jason Pine wants to Pine. I
love the way you did that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Speaking although pining, who's going to opine? In terms of
another voice on the podcast today.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
O Piney when he curried down to chat with Ben
segment from All White with Phoenix Player as well around
the Glory of the day.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Looking forward to that and the latest and sports news
as well. Let's get into it. In other news, Let's
get things going with a look at some of the
big sports stories around today. Liam Lawson admits any sympathy
for Yuki Sonoda's Formula One future only goes so far
the Japanese drivers being dropped by Red Wolf next year,
having replaced Lawson after two Grand Prix this season.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Don't care for anybody that's that's not in Formula One,
that's you know, works worked a long time to get there.
But at the same time there's a lot of guys
so that don't get the opportunity. Ever, He's had a
few years in the sporting and I think it's a
very very tough game, which obviously over leans as well.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The frustration for Manchester United manager Reuben amerm after a
one old drawer at home against west Ham. Instead of
jumping four spots on the Premier League ladder up to fifth,
United gained just one position to sit eighth.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
When we heard that run that the team was really
perfect and they're all is saying we are really we
are not far from being in the perfect moment. We
are really inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But if you look at the goal fety three minutes,
we have everything under control. We need to do it.
And boxing promoter George Rose believes Nelson us for Solomon
that can be his true aggressive self now that he
has ditched rugby league for prize fighting.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
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Speaker 2 (02:42):
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Speaker 3 (02:45):
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Speaker 4 (02:50):
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Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's Sports Fix with Jason Hine and Dusty.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Walter Grave and it's a warm welcome to the Sports
Fixed podcast. Now to form an all white Former Phoenix
player Ben Segment, Long time, Ben, haven't spoken to you
for ages?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Oh are you?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Oh well, thank you, thank you, thank you very much
for asking.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And thank you very much for coming on the program.
Former former Phoenix player, you must have been gatted when
this whole concept that the Derby turned up. I'd suggest
this would be a game you would absolutely revelin.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Oh it would have been would have you know?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It would have been the.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Icing on the cake for me as a you know,
for as a pro coming through or you know, even
if I was sort of saying to someone this morning,
when we grew up, we just played club football and
then hope like how we'd go pro somewhere. But now
we've got a care to me, we've got two professional
teams in this country and then you've got the Derby
on top of that, Like it's just the icing on
(03:48):
the cake made it really is so special for these
young kids coming through with the future and being able
to play in New Zealand as a pro footballer is
so cool.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
The Phoenix are carrying a lot of pressure on their shoulders,
a lot of weight. They can't win in the derby.
Last time the Derby was on, it was can you
say an embarras, I'm not quite sure how you managed
to lose a game like that when you only play
against nine guys, so how much pressures on these blokes
to actually perform and what will that look like on
the park?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Ben, Yeah, I just I just wonder whether this next
one tomorrow might be that there is no pressure for
the Phoenix, you know that. I think it's zero and four.
I think I can't even remember. I know that Phoenix
haven't won any but it's starting to mount up. But
I kind of feel like maybe there's no pressure on
them at the moment and they just kind of just
got to throw themselves at it and have a crack
(04:40):
and you know, you just never know. I sort of
felt like the Phoenix played exceptionally well against Adelaide last week,
you know, like they pressed high, they worked hard, scored goals,
you know, conceded, I know, but apart from that, they
actually played really well. So yeah, I find it very
hard because I am a Phoenix through and through, But
(05:03):
you know, it's been tough to see them sort of
not win yet. But I've got hope. I've got I
hope that they're going to go and do it well.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
They're on the app, aren't they. Whereas AKFC in a
situation now where they've just wobbled over the last couple
of weeks, So you'd suggest maybe that the time is right. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
and they're at home.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
You know, maybe maybe a bit of pressure might be
starting to mount on them fit home fans. You know,
they've had it pretty good. They've done exceptionally well for
the first season and then you know they're right up
there still though, you know, so you know, I don't
think there is too much pressure on them right now.
They just got to tune up, perform, play well, and
you know they get the result. You know, this season
(05:44):
carries on as per normal.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Talk to us about what the Phoenix have put out
on the pitch this year, the good, the bad, the ugly,
what you would like to see in that lineup, as
far as what they provide, what their formation is, and
they're like, knock yourself out being what has to happen.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, it's a consistency. For me, it's you know, the play.
As I said, they played well against Adelaide and they
kind of showed where they needed be. But they need
to do that week in week out, the high press,
you know, working really hard. You know, all that stuff
is well and good, but if you don't do it
week in, week out, day and day out, like it's
(06:20):
no good to anyone. So for me, do exactly what
they did last week in the first half against Adelaide
and they will definitely be a chance.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You talk about the high press, Has this been a constant?
Do you want consistency? They appear to say, look, this
is what we're going to play. And even though it
was a disastrous start last time, they keeping up with
this idea and was just the right way for this
team to go. They got the manpower to do this.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, and again they just keep making like they're getting
better and better with it, and chiefly the coach obviously
is sticking to it, which is absolutely fine and I
love the fact that he's trying something different for this year.
There's probably just one or two little mistakes that keeps
creeping in and they conceding a goal. And again, like,
(07:11):
if they can get rid of those one or two
little mistakes which is costing them, then I don't have
an issue with it. I think it's I think that's
really exciting football and good for the club. But yeah, again,
just take those little things away and it might be
just a little bit of desperation tackle, it might be
just doing something extra as a player to go in
(07:32):
and bloody, you know, just stop that goal from going in.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You had been enough for the we want controlled aggression.
I'm presuming in a derby match. Do you think they've
got that about them, if they got that, that power
about them and that want to actually stand up and
say yeah, no, not on my pitch. Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, Well you'd like to think so, and you'd like
to hope so. And again if it was me being
out there and you're having a crack, like, you know,
I don't care who I was playing, I didn't care
how many fans were there. I didn't care what pitch
I was on. It's like if you were just giving
it one hundred percent. No, you're no. Your role in
not backing down to anyone. You know, have a crack,
(08:13):
don't be afraid do what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldergrave.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
The New Zealand A League derby is quickly becoming must
watch sporting action. Michael Vaut, the Auckland FC goalkeeper, said
that the team's media session today he already believes it
is the biggest domestic sporting events on New Zealand's calendar,
and it is hard to argue. Yes, there are rivalries
across a bunch of different sports, but in which other rivalry,
(08:46):
in which other clash, in which other contest do you
get the fervor and the passion and the build up
and the hype and the genuine it seems dislike between
the participants. Very very very quickly, after only four iterations,
this has become compelling viewing and we get the chance
for Derby five point zero tomorrow at go Media Stadium. Now,
(09:10):
unlike last week where the Heavens opened with monsoon rain,
tomorrow's forecast a go Media is about the opposite. Clear
blue skies and sunshine with the light breeze, so perfect
footballing conditions. We could go on and on and on
about where this game will be won and lost. We
can talk about the matchups. Sam Cosgrove, the Auckland FC
(09:32):
English striker up against the Canadian center back for the
Wellington Phoenix, Mandraka James. At the other end, the watertight
usually defense of Auckland FC, marshalled by Dan Hall trying
to keep e fine. Is this unpredictable Nigerian striker under
wraps and in the engine room the likes of Louis
va Strata and Alex Rufer and Jake Brimmer and Kazuki
(09:56):
Nagasawa locking horns and trying to find an advantage for
their side. But for me, matches of this magnitude often
come down to very small moments, and these moments only
arrive every so often in a game. What you must
be is prepared for when they arrive, and in those
split seconds the decision making of the key participants in
(10:21):
this game tomorrow is what we'll decide this contest. This
ain't going to be a goal fest. This isn't going
to be five to four. This could be decided by
the odd goal, an error, or a flash of inspiration.
Regardless of how the game is won and lost. It
will be must watch at go Media tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The Chamber is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Into the Chamber we go a couple of big events
happening over the weekend. One actually doesn't involve actual sport.
It's the drawing of forty eight balls out of twelve pots.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's the FIFA World Cup drawer for next year. You're
going to get to that in the moment.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Across the weekend, though, the Formula One season comes to
a rather exciting climax. You'd have to think in Abu
Dhabi does how many drivers are still with the chance
of winning the driver's championship?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
All three?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So what we've got is Lando Norris's leads the way.
He's twelve points clear of the reigning wheel champ Max
for Steppin Oscar Pastree four points a drift. So the
way that works pretty much on the podium for Lando Norris,
he wins the championship.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, so you get twenty five for a win, don't you?
Eighteen twelve something like that? So, yeah, so wouldn't that big?
Lando Norris's best approach to this. Don't worry at all
about what Max for Stappan is doing. It sounds simple.
Just get on the podium yourself. Will that be how
he approaches it or will he just try and stay
in Max for Stepan's review mirror.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You can't win it on the first corner. I think
it's the first thing he's got to consider. But in
saying that, the Steppen gets a bolt on him and
gets away. That's providing he qualifies up front. Suddenly the
red mist comes. I'm going to beat the step and
you can't get ahead, and then he's got to worry
about Piastre because you know they've got the papaya rules
of McLaren. That's the color of the car, papya. I
(12:06):
think it's papya puh quite frankly, and with McLaren the
last couple of weeks that they are allowed to race
against each other, and because there's an outside chance that Piastre,
he was the championship leader early doors, he's got a
chance to win this. So I don't see these two
guys helping each other out at all, and really could
he I wouldn't think, so it depends how we go
halfway through the race. They've been pretty pretty hardcore on that.
(12:28):
It's like, you know, when it's these two guys are
both of them with the championship. Lando's obviously got that
he's at the front, but they're not going to say
protect the bloke. I really don't think that's going to happen.
Maybe if we end up with Norris sorry Piastree fifth six,
something like that, and it's obvious the gain the game's over,
he can marobably, maybe getting the way of a stepping
(12:50):
or something like that. But I think when the flag drops,
all the lights go out, it's going to be awful one.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
In many ways, that makes it more exciting, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean two v one those aren't aren't the odds?
That that sound fair to anybody? Max for stepping though,
I'm really keen on your view on the stars. He
just it was one hundred points behind. For goodness sake,
he's clawed his way back.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And where does he say? Claud's way? He's absolutely broken
the door down, he's turned up, he's winning sprints, he's
winning races, he's qualifying first like this is the step
we know? So the car is obviously working again.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
But what does it say about Max for Stepan as
a driver? And no one else could have done that? Right,
no one else could have done what he has done.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well, if you circle back though to the hell Sen days,
guys like here and Center may well have been able
to do something like that. There were class drivers back
then who could. But of the current era, in this
new cars, maybe maybe, oh I don't know. You've got
to look at the guy who used to ride the
rebu Sebastian Fettle, who's also very good. Maybe he could
(13:52):
do it. But he's so bloody minded as Max. He
knows exactly what he needs to do. I don't they
talk about breaking the rear risimrs off in sport. I
don't think it was everyone his car. He cares behind him.
It's what's in front of him and how he's going
to dominate. And well he does, and he knows that.
He backs himself. He backs his team as well, which
is really important. And we know the importance of team
(14:14):
after what happened with McLaren when they got the pit
stops all wrong and they lost. So there's so much
and who can deal with the pressure is a key thing,
and any sport have that in every sport you're involved
in as well, when you've got a champion like Max
bearing down on you. Norris has never won a world championship,
Piastre has never won a world championship. How much does
(14:35):
that weigh on their shoulders as they drive around.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm fascinated.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's going to be such a good race.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh it's not going to be must watch for Stapping.
I guess all he has to do.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
All he can do is win the race, right, All
he can do is go and win the race and
let the cards fall behind him as they do, and hope.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yuki Snoda drives into the side of Norris has last
to run. He goes, I'm just going to smash straight
into your Look, it's not out of a quick It's
happened years and years ago. Where I mean Schumacher is
that there's other drivers where they're basically driven into the
opposition at the start of the race and won the championship.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Or it's pretty foul.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So let's get to America, get to the village people
performing why you see I don't believe I'm saying this,
And that's the big dance at the end because old
Trump he loves it, and Infantino and Trump Bosom buddies.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
They are, but they're there for the year.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
The pageantry of this compared to the Rugby World Cup
draw the other night, you know, where there was just
a bunch of guys sitting in a studio really with
it what looked like a sort of a makeshift backdrop.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
This is pageantry the draw for the fief of World Cup.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
What we really want to know though, is who New
Zealand they are going to end up against. Who are
they going to be put into a Paul Worth just
to explain it. There are forty eight teams going to
the World Cup.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Sure, they're going to add more idea.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
As we speak today, there are forty eight teams. They're
going to be twelve groups of four. New Zealand are
in Pot four because they are the one of the
lowest ranked teams.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So the pots separated on rankings, so we don't end
up with games where we've got one group with five
best teams.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's all ranked yep. So the top twelve teams and
that well, the top nineteen and the three hosts are
in Pot one, Pot two, the next ranked Pot three,
the next ranked Pot four, the bottom rank including New Zealand.
So then you start thinking yourself, who do you want
to get in the from pot one? What would be
a game that would capture the imagination? Well, there are
a couple in there that I can say straight away.
(16:25):
Imagine the All Whites playing England at a football World
Cup where all we seem to have to know a
lot about the Premier League and that sort of thing.
Imagine the All Whites coming up against Messi and Argentina
for goodness sake, in a World Cup pall match, And
then you start thinking Okay, who might we have a
chance against? Then you go down to pots two and three.
Pot three has got the likes of South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Kuta,
(16:48):
Uzbekistan to Nizia, Coat Devoirs.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Who we beat recently.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
So the Pot three team we come up against is
going to be interesting for me because that's a result game.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, I just wind it back. So in order to
advance through the next group, what actually has to happen?
What do New Zealand have to put down? Because we
know they're unbeaten back in South Africa back in the day,
they also didn't win great record didn't work for them.
So what actually has to happen? What are they looking for?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're a good question.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So twelve groups, the top two from each group go
through to the round of thirty two. That's twenty four
teams and then the next eight best third place finishes.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So is that points based or goal difference based?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Its first, then goals goal difference, then goal scored.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Effectively, you probably have to win a game and get
a result in another game, So a win and a
drawer would get you through.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So for the All Whites, they'll look at that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Whoever comes out of Pot three, one of the lower
ranked teams say, that's a game we target to win
and we try and get a draw somewhere else and
that should be enough for us to go through. But
the other way those ask everybody wants New Zealand in
their group because we're the lowest.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
We're the lowest ranked. Anyone who gets.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
New Zealand go well, there's three points for us. Well,
and that might even play in our favorite Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
At their peril.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
At their peril they to wind it back. So when
you look at from a player's point of view, on
players perspective as an all white, who do they want
to get thrashed by? I mean, is it Argentina, is
it England? Who would they get the jersey? Do they
still what? Jump and go mate? I played these guys.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Well then now Messi Cam Devlon who used to play
for the Phoenix Lee andel Messi's jersey when Australia played
Argentina at the last World Cup. You know the crazy
thing is these players now don't fear anybody. Yes, they
know they're underdogs against Argentina, Brazil, England, Spain, whoever it is,
but they're not going out there for the for the
photo and the and the shirt swap. Every time they play,
(18:32):
they go out the try and win the game. So
look tomorrow morning from six, I get the feeling the
balls or start to be pulled out around court to seven,
once the village people and everybody else who's involved have
have done their bits, and Infantina well covering it off on.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
The allsport breakfast to orown and would just keep your time.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You'll be able to follow it live on on that
and by the time you and I speak, I'll bet
to give you a little bit of analysis. So that's
tomorrow morning, Washington, d C. Six o'clock, New Zealand time.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I think that it's not unlike what's happening in the
Formula One. When you've got a wild favorite up against
New Zealand, the press is probably on them. It's not
on the New Zealander. It's because no he wants to
get white by New Zealand with all due respect, no respect,
what's been to you understand exciting times.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And they are exciting times. So we'll find out tomorrow
morning and Formula one across the weekend too. That's us
in the chamber today leading a X.
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