On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for 18th December 2025, big news was dropped in the netball world today.
After a turbulent year with issues around the broadcast deal, and more recently the Dame Noeline Taurua situation, some action has been taken. CEO of Netball NZ Jennie Wyllie was announced to have resigned from the role today effective immediately. D'Arcy is joined by team relationship manager of the Waikato Bay of Plenty Magic, Gary Dawson, to discuss.
D'Arcy shares his thoughts on Drive to Survive and the effect that it has on Formula 1.
And D'Arcy and Piney discuss Jennie Wyllie's resignation and whether Alex Carey should have walked in the ashes yesterday following the incident with Snicko.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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to go shopping terious.
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Things or sneak up on your darsk. I told you
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when it comes to Christmas shopping.
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for doing the fix with us. This is the penultimate
fix for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That is, indeed here tomorrow'll be your last one. Well,
let's get into today's before we consider the curtain down
episode tomorrow. A bit to get through. We want to
talk about some Snicko controversy in Adelaide, the departure of
Jenny Wiley's net On New Zealand CEO, and a couple
of other things in the chamber as well.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
In terms of a guest who we're hearing from, well,
I'll be having a yarn around plainly the netball story
of the day with Gary Dawson. Gary's the White Couple,
bat Prey Magic team relationship manager.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Looking forward to that and the latest import news coming
your way too, So let's get into it. In other news,
let's get things going with a look at some of
the big sports stories around today. The operator of crickets
Snicko Technology, has admitted an era likely cost England the
wicket of Australia's Alex Carey on the opening dad the
Third Ashes Test in Adelaide yesterday. England were convinced Kerry
(01:55):
was out for seventy two, caught behind bles. There a
noise he pick, so Jerry says, so gos the uppire
no spoke out. Now you watch that and you hear
the noise, He go, He's fashed it. But the replay
showed a noise spike before the ball reached the bat
Alex Carey said afterwards, yes, I hit it. The technologies
(02:16):
operators BBG considered after play and operator Era was most
likely and they offered an apology. Scott Dixon toasting the
opening of a new world class motorsport facility, the Sir
Colin Giltrap Raceway, as a momentous day.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It's huge for the tradition that we have in New Zealand.
It's a beautiful facility, world class.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Which you know, hopefully they can have international races down
here as well.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
In Newcastle United to Manchester City will play each other
in the semi finals of English Football's League carp The
Magpies beat Fulham two to one, a second string City
East past Brentford two nil. Sky Blues manager Pep Guardiola
sees you don't have to be a football genius to
realize their first half goal was special. A black a
a blame woman and can realize the necessary to be
(02:59):
a journalism manager to realize it was a fantastic, fantastical use.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And Avinion It's Sports Fix with Jason Hine and.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And It's a Walnut. Welcome to the Sports Fixed podcast
to whycatt or Bay of Plenty, Avis Magic team relationship manager.
It's a mouthful. Mister Gary Dawson, get a Gary. How's Drex?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Great? Thanks? Darcy?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Today big news came out that Jenny Wiley fallen on
he saw. That's probably a bit dramatic, isn't it, But
she's stepped down from her role as the CEO of
Netball New Zealand. You kind of see it coming. Is
this the first domino or do you believe the only
thing that needs to happen to straighten up the dramas there?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Firstly, I mean when I read the news this morning,
it didn't come as a surprise, but it came with
a you know, a turns of sadness because you know,
Jenny has been the CEO of New Zealand netbell for
the last ten years and you know, despite some of
the dramas that have gone on this year, you know,
she did lead us through COVID and I was intimately
(04:10):
involved with Magic then and saw her leadership through that period.
And you know she has lead New Zealand Netball through
you know, some challenging times and seeing them have some
great success internationally. So you know, I think we need
to recognize that and really, you know, give some appreciation
to her for the work that she has done over
(04:32):
the years. It's a tough gig, you know, being the
CEO of a national sports organization, and I think after
the ten years, you know, I can completely understand how
she'd want to perhaps, you know, take a break and
look for other opportunities. But yeah, having said that, I
think it's going to be really interesting to see what
happens next. You know, if you look at the feedback
(04:54):
that is coming back through a lot of the netball centers,
a lot of the public I think they are saying
and have been for some time that you know, really
the Netble New Zealand board have got to take a
lot of response its ability for the situation that's in
and it is going to be interesting to see what
(05:15):
happens next. I think just because Jenny's resigned, I don't
think that necessarily is coming to mean the end of
you know, some of the questioning and the and the lack.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Of confidence on the board that is there at the moment, Well, nor.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Should it be. And I'll back you up on that.
I've been talking with Jenny Wiley since they get going.
I found it to be really engaging CEO. She's been
wonderful to speak to. So yeah, sad when I saw
that as well, but it was it was almost inevitable.
So let's go to that next step. Is this enough
do you think to possibly trigger the clearance of the
entire board, because this is not just a CEO issue,
(05:52):
This is right across the upper levels of netball in
New Zealand. You can't just sit this with one individual, surely.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
No, you can't.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
And you know, if you look at the sort of
the things that have come out of the netbor on
New Zealand board, you know they have said that you know,
they've been getting all sorts of advice directly to them,
you know, expert advice in terms of legal matters and
so on, and named.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Noline Toto drama. You know, they've they've been intimately involved
with with what's been going on.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
So you know, I just don't think that they can
sort of put their hands up and say, hey, look
we we really take can't take any responsibility for us.
I think there is some accountability that that needs to
be had now, whether the whole board.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Needs to resign or not.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I think that's that's pretty dramatic because there are, you know,
I think some some very good board members there, like
you know, for example, Julie Coney, a ex New Zealand
representative player, very involved in the network community, netball commentator.
You know, I regard her very highly and I think
there are, you know, perhaps some board members like her
(07:06):
that that will need to stay on to provide some continuity.
But I do think there does need to be a
review of the composition of the board, including the board chairperson,
and I think that's the next stage that goes through.
I mean, the other thing I would say, too, is
that the indication, indications seem to be that they're going
to look at appointing a CEO going through that recruitment process.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
My belief is that.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
They should hold off on that until, you know, we're
very clear about if and when there is a new board,
because I think if there is a new board chairperson
and new board members, I think they should be the
ones appointing the new CEO and not the current board.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Can the game survivor dramatic change at the top level
or more's the point if they don't, can the game survive?
It goes both ways, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean the game will survive. I mean, I
think the thing that you've got about netball is that you've.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Got incredibly passionate and loyal and hard working people out
there at the community level, and they love the game.
They are the guardians of the game, as they've seen
with the way cut O Bay of Planty Zone and
their special general meeting. I mean that was a pretty
brave thing to do. It was my view, the right
thing to do, and they will not let the game die.
(08:30):
So I think there's enough people out there who love
the game so much and are prepared to put their
hand up and say, you know, what can we do
to help?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And we're seeing that already. To be fair, I mean.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
NETLE New Zealand have i think in the last month
up their game in terms of connecting with the community,
and we're seeing more and more people, you know, put
their hands up and say right, well, what can we
do to help? So yeah, it may be a bit
of a rocky period. Other sports organizations have gone through
similar things, but NETWLE will survive and it will come
(09:05):
out of the stronger.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It's not a new year, and I don't make resolutions,
so why not turn it on its head making New
Year's resolution in twenty twenty six, I promise to be
more tolerant of people who only watch Formula One because
they climbed on board during Drive to Survive and they've
stayed on board. There is a whole new layer of
(09:38):
Formula One fans now thanks to Drive to Survive. The
first two series were passable, it was fairly interesting. Beyond that,
it's just turned into a Wow. Let's face it, it's
just a horrible reality program full of all of the
chints that expect from anything generated out of the United
States of America. It must not watch viewing. But I
(10:01):
can't deny the fact it's had a huge effect on
Formula One. Formula One is growing exponentially. It's getting more teams,
getting more races. It is truly global, which is something
I suppose should be applauded next year. A number of
the rulings change in Formula One. They've got smaller, lighter cars,
(10:23):
they've got a boost mode operation, they've got lack of
a DRS situation, they have an overtake mode, they've got
active arrow, they've got a number of different developments, which
of course is the nature of Formula One. You race
and when on Sunday, and that transfers directly to sales
(10:44):
on a Monday, or that's the thought. Anyway. Pretty much
everything in your card derived from Formula one. This is
the testing bed for the automotive story. So for me
to look down my nose at people who've only started
watching Formula one because they indulge in the crass drive
to survive, it's backward from me. So in twenty twenty six,
(11:07):
I'm no longer going to maintain that whollier than their
position of a long time Formula one fan. I welcome
everybody into the sport. I'm super pleased that you found
time in your life to watch Formula one. I'm not
gonna poo poo your ideas and your suggestions just because
(11:28):
you're new to the sport. It doesn't make you any
less relevant.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Into the Chamber we go. We gather here to discuss
sporting topics which are hot at the moment. The big
sports story of the day, obviously, Jenny Wiley has gone
as Netball New Zealand CEO. Did this come as a
surprise when it hit your in box.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
No, what I found vaguely surprising was the chair of
the board didn't follow it. Honestly, I think they're all
just as complicit are Maye.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, you have to say that it hasn't been a
banner year for netball New Zealand, has it. It's been
a year fraught with difficulty, more than a tinge of controversy,
lots of negative publicity. And yeah, you go to the
top and you say, well, Jenny Wiley's the CEO. She
runs the operations of the business, but the strategy of
(12:22):
the business is set by the board and Matt Winoerey
is the chair of that board, so I guess he
is ultimately responsible for the strategic direction of NEPULE in
this country.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And I'd like to sit here and pack through the
information we've got around what actually occurred behind the scenes,
how it went, but I can't because no one's talking,
so no one knows anything. And they've kept that mysterious
shroud over this affair for quite some time, and I
think people are fed up to the back teeth, like,
can you just tell us something anything commercial sensitive? He
(12:53):
just say something and that's the frustration around here. And
then of course the nepoll community pretty much they've all
closed ranks and no one really wants to talk either,
so we're just left in this strange void, Piny.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And you know what the problem is with a vacuum
like this, with a silence like this, that people rush
to fill it, don't they And they fill it with
things that could be true, but they fill it with
things that are almost certainly not true.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Are you talking about the media? You're talking about us,
aren't your Piney, you're accusing us of Yeah, okay, fair enough,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I'm talking about the general public. I'm talking about netball
fans who have invested themselves in this game, you know,
and have enjoyed netball as part of their lives, whether
it be at a social level or or following the
silver Ferns or anything in between. It's like they are
given nothing. So what are they supposed to do with
a vacuum other than to, I guess, you know, try
(13:44):
and work out what on earth is going on.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, I know one thing that's going and I've worked
something else out of all of this. Now you've been
doing this a long time, Piney, We don't really get
a great deal of talk back around netball unless it's
been a terrible result or something's gone horribly wrong. But
when we've been talking about this issue, even with no
input from Netball New Zealand or anybody else, the phone
(14:07):
lines of jam up. This has gone day in, day out,
day and right in the height of this controversy. So
what I can ascertain from that people care about the sport.
I mean that's huge. There is one positive out of this.
We know this engagement and people really want to know
and they this is close to their hearts.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
This game.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Absolutely, You're so right with that. I was thinking, you know,
there's only one thing worse than being talked about in
negative terms, and that's not being talked about at all.
There is nothing worse than irrelevance. And I think what
this whole year has shown us, and the various issues
that Nepble New Zealand have found themselves in the middle of,
is that people do care about this sport. It's such
a big part of us in terms of as I
(14:47):
said before, from from the you know, the young players
on the courts, on those frosty mornings around the country
in the winter, right up to our elite side, the
silver ferns wrapping us on the world stage. You know,
so people do care. So I would love it if
nepball New Zealand somebody there, you know, I guess, recognize
that and gave the netball public. If we can call
(15:11):
them that, I think we can gave them something at
this time.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Well it don't hold your breath because you're going blue.
It'd be crazy, but I will give you this. Let's
you look at the end of the year and you
look at the podium of sports administration that have been disastrous.
They've got to be up there in the podium in
New Zealand cricket and in Zennaia as well. Don't they
mean that? The three of them the trum for it.
They've done very, very well.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's a crowded podium.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
A crowded podium, alf and serious, but really you pull
your hair out, don't you. You probably don't.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
The last thing. That's like you said before, I've been
doing this job for a long time and my hairstyle
would be testimony to that. Hey, I want to talk
about what happened at the Adelaide Oval yesterday, not so
much around the Snicko we know that the Snicco technology
didn't work in the way that it should and Alex Carey,
who should have been given out on the first day,
was not given out went on to make one hundred,
(16:06):
so I've had of thirty odd more runs before he
was event dismissed. The more interesting part of this for me,
Dars is the fact that he didn't walk. Do you
walk now? Is that a throwback to the past or
you know, the days of honor where if you nicked it,
your walked regardless, or now with the technology there, do
you say, Well, you tell me whether I've had it
(16:26):
or not.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'd lean to that. I mean, it could have been anything.
To quote Nigel Long, we don't know. The technology is
very faulty. It was worse back then. It's much better now.
But was it. Adam Gilchrist used to get all pissed
and get in his high horse and say he walked,
and I don't think he actually did. It has to be.
We talked about in New Zealand cricket, the black Cats
(16:47):
back in the day when they were nasty, when they
would ever go, they just weren't particularly pleasant people on
the park. Yet they've changed that around the nice guys
of World Cricket. I think they probably would, But it
becomes part of what your organization stands for, what your
coach and your captain set up within the side as
(17:08):
to whether you should walk or not. And so that's
very anexact which is not unlike the snaker.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, and I think I think now with the Sniccko technology,
I think you do leave it up to the technology,
which you know ninety nine point nine percent of the
time is around things like Snako very accurate. I'm not
exactly sure what happened in this particular instance they say
operator error. I just assumed it was totally automated and
(17:36):
there was no operator that basically AI just did it
and told you whether you snaked it or not. But
I guess if you know, sometimes you say I'm not
sure if i've hit that, maybe there is a bit
of doubt. I'm just going to hang around. I think
know when you've know, you know, when you've really hit
the cover off it, then you go. But then by
that stuff, I mean, the umpire makes that decision, doesn't
ever go to Sniccko. But if there's any doubt, I
think you hang around, don't you.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Well, when the ball is caught in the outfield and
then I don't know if it was the one ball,
You don't they did it bound somebody has a knight
and the guys that I don't know. It felt like
I cought it because it was so fast. And the
AI side of things, I've been speaking with Ian Taylor
from virtually and of course it's at the forefront of
all this for like the last thirty five years, and
(18:17):
that's going increasingly in the AI space, machine teaching and training,
and he seems to think that it's only a matter
of time before club cricketers we're able to do it
on their iPhones. Yeah, it's that quick. It really is
a lot of work behind it, a lot of money
behind it, but they are moving ahead with phenomenal pace,
(18:37):
and I think we all need to see that.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Indeed, well, technology colliding with the spirit of cricket. I'm
not sure what the future.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Is some spirit of cricket that doesn't make that up.
There's no spirit and cricket. It's too much money have spirit. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, on that note, I think we should we should
go our separate ways out the two doors of the
chamber and reconvene tomorrow dusk.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
They added another door. This place gets crazier and crazier.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
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And if any idea when the Fix actually gets up
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January nineteen I think has been sort of circled, there's
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Be hello there and welcome into the Sports Flex podcast,
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Speaker 4 (00:34):
No one told me what a week away I'm going
to go shopping terious.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Things or sneak up on your darsk. I told you
this last year, and the year before and many years
before that, but nothing ever seems to register with you
when it comes to Christmas shopping.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I may you think the child would have said something
really by now I'm the signs are yeah, all over
the chikboards that are I've got your ay Piney Darcy
autograph with you like you don't know. Thanks very much
for doing the fix with us. This is the penultimate
fix for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That is, indeed here tomorrow'll be your last one. Well,
let's get into today's before we consider the curtain down
episode tomorrow. A bit to get through. We want to
talk about some Snicko controversy in Adelaide, the departure of
Jenny Wiley's net On New Zealand CEO, and a couple
of other things in the chamber as well.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
In terms of a guest who we're hearing from, well,
I'll be having a yarn around plainly the netball story
of the day with Gary Dawson. Gary's the White Couple,
bat Prey Magic team relationship manager.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Looking forward to that and the latest import news coming
your way too, So let's get into it. In other news,
let's get things going with a look at some of
the big sports stories around today. The operator of crickets
Snicko Technology, has admitted an era likely cost England the
wicket of Australia's Alex Carey on the opening dad the
Third Ashes Test in Adelaide yesterday. England were convinced Kerry
(01:55):
was out for seventy two, caught behind bles. There a
noise he pick, so Jerry says, so gos the uppire
no spoke out. Now you watch that and you hear
the noise, He go, He's fashed it. But the replay
showed a noise spike before the ball reached the bat
Alex Carey said afterwards, yes, I hit it. The technologies
(02:16):
operators BBG considered after play and operator Era was most
likely and they offered an apology. Scott Dixon toasting the
opening of a new world class motorsport facility, the Sir
Colin Giltrap Raceway, as a momentous day.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It's huge for the tradition that we have in New Zealand.
It's a beautiful facility, world class.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Which you know, hopefully they can have international races down
here as well.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
In Newcastle United to Manchester City will play each other
in the semi finals of English Football's League carp The
Magpies beat Fulham two to one, a second string City
East past Brentford two nil. Sky Blues manager Pep Guardiola
sees you don't have to be a football genius to
realize their first half goal was special. A black a
a blame woman and can realize the necessary to be
(02:59):
a journalism manager to realize it was a fantastic, fantastical use.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And Avinion It's Sports Fix with Jason Hine and.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And It's a Walnut. Welcome to the Sports Fixed podcast
to whycatt or Bay of Plenty, Avis Magic team relationship manager.
It's a mouthful. Mister Gary Dawson, get a Gary. How's Drex?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Great? Thanks? Darcy?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Today big news came out that Jenny Wiley fallen on
he saw. That's probably a bit dramatic, isn't it, But
she's stepped down from her role as the CEO of
Netball New Zealand. You kind of see it coming. Is
this the first domino or do you believe the only
thing that needs to happen to straighten up the dramas there?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Firstly, I mean when I read the news this morning,
it didn't come as a surprise, but it came with
a you know, a turns of sadness because you know,
Jenny has been the CEO of New Zealand netbell for
the last ten years and you know, despite some of
the dramas that have gone on this year, you know,
she did lead us through COVID and I was intimately
(04:10):
involved with Magic then and saw her leadership through that period.
And you know she has lead New Zealand Netball through
you know, some challenging times and seeing them have some
great success internationally. So you know, I think we need
to recognize that and really, you know, give some appreciation
to her for the work that she has done over
(04:32):
the years. It's a tough gig, you know, being the
CEO of a national sports organization, and I think after
the ten years, you know, I can completely understand how
she'd want to perhaps, you know, take a break and
look for other opportunities. But yeah, having said that, I
think it's going to be really interesting to see what
happens next. You know, if you look at the feedback
(04:54):
that is coming back through a lot of the netball centers,
a lot of the public I think they are saying
and have been for some time that you know, really
the Netble New Zealand board have got to take a
lot of response its ability for the situation that's in
and it is going to be interesting to see what
(05:15):
happens next. I think just because Jenny's resigned, I don't
think that necessarily is coming to mean the end of
you know, some of the questioning and the and the lack.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Of confidence on the board that is there at the moment, Well, nor.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Should it be. And I'll back you up on that.
I've been talking with Jenny Wiley since they get going.
I found it to be really engaging CEO. She's been
wonderful to speak to. So yeah, sad when I saw
that as well, but it was it was almost inevitable.
So let's go to that next step. Is this enough
do you think to possibly trigger the clearance of the
entire board, because this is not just a CEO issue,
(05:52):
This is right across the upper levels of netball in
New Zealand. You can't just sit this with one individual, surely.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
No, you can't.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
And you know, if you look at the sort of
the things that have come out of the netbor on
New Zealand board, you know they have said that you know,
they've been getting all sorts of advice directly to them,
you know, expert advice in terms of legal matters and
so on, and named.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Noline Toto drama. You know, they've they've been intimately involved
with with what's been going on.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
So you know, I just don't think that they can
sort of put their hands up and say, hey, look
we we really take can't take any responsibility for us.
I think there is some accountability that that needs to
be had now, whether the whole board.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Needs to resign or not.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I think that's that's pretty dramatic because there are, you know,
I think some some very good board members there, like
you know, for example, Julie Coney, a ex New Zealand
representative player, very involved in the network community, netball commentator.
You know, I regard her very highly and I think
there are, you know, perhaps some board members like her
(07:06):
that that will need to stay on to provide some continuity.
But I do think there does need to be a
review of the composition of the board, including the board chairperson,
and I think that's the next stage that goes through.
I mean, the other thing I would say, too, is
that the indication, indications seem to be that they're going
to look at appointing a CEO going through that recruitment process.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
My belief is that.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
They should hold off on that until, you know, we're
very clear about if and when there is a new board,
because I think if there is a new board chairperson
and new board members, I think they should be the
ones appointing the new CEO and not the current board.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Can the game survivor dramatic change at the top level
or more's the point if they don't, can the game survive?
It goes both ways, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean the game will survive. I mean, I
think the thing that you've got about netball is that you've.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Got incredibly passionate and loyal and hard working people out
there at the community level, and they love the game.
They are the guardians of the game, as they've seen
with the way cut O Bay of Planty Zone and
their special general meeting. I mean that was a pretty
brave thing to do. It was my view, the right
thing to do, and they will not let the game die.
(08:30):
So I think there's enough people out there who love
the game so much and are prepared to put their
hand up and say, you know, what can we do
to help?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And we're seeing that already. To be fair, I mean.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
NETLE New Zealand have i think in the last month
up their game in terms of connecting with the community,
and we're seeing more and more people, you know, put
their hands up and say right, well, what can we
do to help? So yeah, it may be a bit
of a rocky period. Other sports organizations have gone through
similar things, but NETWLE will survive and it will come
(09:05):
out of the stronger.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It's not a new year, and I don't make resolutions,
so why not turn it on its head making New
Year's resolution in twenty twenty six, I promise to be
more tolerant of people who only watch Formula One because
they climbed on board during Drive to Survive and they've
stayed on board. There is a whole new layer of
(09:38):
Formula One fans now thanks to Drive to Survive. The
first two series were passable, it was fairly interesting. Beyond that,
it's just turned into a Wow. Let's face it, it's
just a horrible reality program full of all of the
chints that expect from anything generated out of the United
States of America. It must not watch viewing. But I
(10:01):
can't deny the fact it's had a huge effect on
Formula One. Formula One is growing exponentially. It's getting more teams,
getting more races. It is truly global, which is something
I suppose should be applauded next year. A number of
the rulings change in Formula One. They've got smaller, lighter cars,
(10:23):
they've got a boost mode operation, they've got lack of
a DRS situation, they have an overtake mode, they've got
active arrow, they've got a number of different developments, which
of course is the nature of Formula One. You race
and when on Sunday, and that transfers directly to sales
(10:44):
on a Monday, or that's the thought. Anyway. Pretty much
everything in your card derived from Formula one. This is
the testing bed for the automotive story. So for me
to look down my nose at people who've only started
watching Formula one because they indulge in the crass drive
to survive, it's backward from me. So in twenty twenty six,
(11:07):
I'm no longer going to maintain that whollier than their
position of a long time Formula one fan. I welcome
everybody into the sport. I'm super pleased that you found
time in your life to watch Formula one. I'm not
gonna poo poo your ideas and your suggestions just because
(11:28):
you're new to the sport. It doesn't make you any
less relevant.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Into the Chamber we go. We gather here to discuss
sporting topics which are hot at the moment. The big
sports story of the day, obviously, Jenny Wiley has gone
as Netball New Zealand CEO. Did this come as a
surprise when it hit your in box.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
No, what I found vaguely surprising was the chair of
the board didn't follow it. Honestly, I think they're all
just as complicit are Maye.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, you have to say that it hasn't been a
banner year for netball New Zealand, has it. It's been
a year fraught with difficulty, more than a tinge of controversy,
lots of negative publicity. And yeah, you go to the
top and you say, well, Jenny Wiley's the CEO. She
runs the operations of the business, but the strategy of
(12:22):
the business is set by the board and Matt Winoerey
is the chair of that board, so I guess he
is ultimately responsible for the strategic direction of NEPULE in
this country.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And I'd like to sit here and pack through the
information we've got around what actually occurred behind the scenes,
how it went, but I can't because no one's talking,
so no one knows anything. And they've kept that mysterious
shroud over this affair for quite some time, and I
think people are fed up to the back teeth, like,
can you just tell us something anything commercial sensitive? He
(12:53):
just say something and that's the frustration around here. And
then of course the nepoll community pretty much they've all
closed ranks and no one really wants to talk either,
so we're just left in this strange void, Piny.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And you know what the problem is with a vacuum
like this, with a silence like this, that people rush
to fill it, don't they And they fill it with
things that could be true, but they fill it with
things that are almost certainly not true.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Are you talking about the media? You're talking about us,
aren't your Piney, you're accusing us of Yeah, okay, fair enough,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I'm talking about the general public. I'm talking about netball
fans who have invested themselves in this game, you know,
and have enjoyed netball as part of their lives, whether
it be at a social level or or following the
silver Ferns or anything in between. It's like they are
given nothing. So what are they supposed to do with
a vacuum other than to, I guess, you know, try
(13:44):
and work out what on earth is going on.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, I know one thing that's going and I've worked
something else out of all of this. Now you've been
doing this a long time, Piney, We don't really get
a great deal of talk back around netball unless it's
been a terrible result or something's gone horribly wrong. But
when we've been talking about this issue, even with no
input from Netball New Zealand or anybody else, the phone
(14:07):
lines of jam up. This has gone day in, day out,
day and right in the height of this controversy. So
what I can ascertain from that people care about the sport.
I mean that's huge. There is one positive out of this.
We know this engagement and people really want to know
and they this is close to their hearts.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
This game.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Absolutely, You're so right with that. I was thinking, you know,
there's only one thing worse than being talked about in
negative terms, and that's not being talked about at all.
There is nothing worse than irrelevance. And I think what
this whole year has shown us, and the various issues
that Nepble New Zealand have found themselves in the middle of,
is that people do care about this sport. It's such
a big part of us in terms of as I
(14:47):
said before, from from the you know, the young players
on the courts, on those frosty mornings around the country
in the winter, right up to our elite side, the
silver ferns wrapping us on the world stage. You know,
so people do care. So I would love it if
nepball New Zealand somebody there, you know, I guess, recognize
that and gave the netball public. If we can call
(15:11):
them that, I think we can gave them something at
this time.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Well it don't hold your breath because you're going blue.
It'd be crazy, but I will give you this. Let's
you look at the end of the year and you
look at the podium of sports administration that have been disastrous.
They've got to be up there in the podium in
New Zealand cricket and in Zennaia as well. Don't they
mean that? The three of them the trum for it.
They've done very, very well.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's a crowded podium.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
A crowded podium, alf and serious, but really you pull
your hair out, don't you. You probably don't.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
The last thing. That's like you said before, I've been
doing this job for a long time and my hairstyle
would be testimony to that. Hey, I want to talk
about what happened at the Adelaide Oval yesterday, not so
much around the Snicko we know that the Snicco technology
didn't work in the way that it should and Alex Carey,
who should have been given out on the first day,
was not given out went on to make one hundred,
(16:06):
so I've had of thirty odd more runs before he
was event dismissed. The more interesting part of this for me,
Dars is the fact that he didn't walk. Do you
walk now? Is that a throwback to the past or
you know, the days of honor where if you nicked it,
your walked regardless, or now with the technology there, do
you say, Well, you tell me whether I've had it
(16:26):
or not.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'd lean to that. I mean, it could have been anything.
To quote Nigel Long, we don't know. The technology is
very faulty. It was worse back then. It's much better now.
But was it. Adam Gilchrist used to get all pissed
and get in his high horse and say he walked,
and I don't think he actually did. It has to be.
We talked about in New Zealand cricket, the black Cats
(16:47):
back in the day when they were nasty, when they
would ever go, they just weren't particularly pleasant people on
the park. Yet they've changed that around the nice guys
of World Cricket. I think they probably would, But it
becomes part of what your organization stands for, what your
coach and your captain set up within the side as
(17:08):
to whether you should walk or not. And so that's
very anexact which is not unlike the snaker.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, and I think I think now with the Sniccko technology,
I think you do leave it up to the technology,
which you know ninety nine point nine percent of the
time is around things like Snako very accurate. I'm not
exactly sure what happened in this particular instance they say
operator error. I just assumed it was totally automated and
(17:36):
there was no operator that basically AI just did it
and told you whether you snaked it or not. But
I guess if you know, sometimes you say I'm not
sure if i've hit that, maybe there is a bit
of doubt. I'm just going to hang around. I think
know when you've know, you know, when you've really hit
the cover off it, then you go. But then by
that stuff, I mean, the umpire makes that decision, doesn't
ever go to Sniccko. But if there's any doubt, I
think you hang around, don't you.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Well, when the ball is caught in the outfield and
then I don't know if it was the one ball,
You don't they did it bound somebody has a knight
and the guys that I don't know. It felt like
I cought it because it was so fast. And the
AI side of things, I've been speaking with Ian Taylor
from virtually and of course it's at the forefront of
all this for like the last thirty five years, and
(18:17):
that's going increasingly in the AI space, machine teaching and training,
and he seems to think that it's only a matter
of time before club cricketers we're able to do it
on their iPhones. Yeah, it's that quick. It really is
a lot of work behind it, a lot of money
behind it, but they are moving ahead with phenomenal pace,
(18:37):
and I think we all need to see that.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Indeed, well, technology colliding with the spirit of cricket. I'm
not sure what the future.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Is some spirit of cricket that doesn't make that up.
There's no spirit and cricket. It's too much money have spirit. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, on that note, I think we should we should
go our separate ways out the two doors of the
chamber and reconvene tomorrow dusk.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
They added another door. This place gets crazier and crazier.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
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Speaker 3 (19:09):
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Speaker 4 (19:27):
And if any idea when the Fix actually gets up
and cracking again, I suppose I've got to come back
from my strange concept Christmas holidays. So maybe what mid January.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
January nineteen I think has been sort of circled, there's
a potential return. There you go.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Glad someone told me about that one. Piney and if
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Speaker 3 (20:02):
Pine Man midday till three Saturday, mid day till three Sunday.
It is weekends. We will see you tomorrow for the
final Sportsfix of twenty twenty five.
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